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9-28-26 Hour 1 Rally House Football Monday · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Five receivers. Stanford out. Quick intercepted. Hufanga. Stanford's got an angle.
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Hufanga back inside.
• 0:08
  Speaker 2: Stays on his feet. And he will score. NBC on
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: the call. Hey, I'm done fighting it. Not doing it anymore.
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: Not doing it anymore. This is just this team. This
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: is what they do. This is what they do. They
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  Speaker 2: make you feel like there's no shot.
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  Speaker 3: They make you feel like the first half is going
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  Speaker 3: to be some indication of what happens later in the game.
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: They have their home fans booing them for the second
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  Speaker 3: straight game at home, and they come away with a
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  Speaker 3: victory against the Super Bowl favorites in the NFL. It's
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: a hell of a win. I'm not going to be
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  Speaker 3: negative at all today. You beat a team like that.
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  Speaker 3: The way that you won, it's gigantic.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: It's a huge win. I don't understand what I don't understand.
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: And there's a lot I don't understand about that game.
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: I just don't.
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  Speaker 4: I was at the game, took the wife, and it's
• 1:02
  Speaker 4: 16-0 at the half. And I said, yeah, it's over.
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  Speaker 4: And she said, why do you always say that? I go,
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  Speaker 4: this time it's over.
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  Speaker 2: This time is different. Trust me, I'm a professional.
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  Speaker 4: She goes, you always say that. I go, yeah, but
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  Speaker 4: understand something. I understand sports. I get sports. I see
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  Speaker 4: where this thing's going.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you worry. This thing is over.
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand. Mos, do you understand? Vic, I do not.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: Because I keep saying week after week, now year after year,
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  Speaker 1: you can't keep walking this same line.
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  Speaker 2: You can't.
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  Speaker 1: I keep saying it.
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  Speaker 2: It turns out you can.
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: And it turns out, Vic, that everything the Broncos do
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: in a football game from one half to the other,
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  Speaker 1: defies the laws of physics. It defies the laws of
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  Speaker 1: the universe. And yet here we are on this Monday
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: morning and it continues to happen. And I am absolutely
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  Speaker 1: blown away by it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, can I give you just.
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  Speaker 1: It's... Listen, man, it's... What's the best word? It's inexplicable
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  Speaker 1: is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's... It's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't even know if it's, like, it's expected
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  Speaker 4: at the same time, too, though. Inexplicable is a great word,
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  Speaker 4: but it's also expected. Like, we're not walking away from
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  Speaker 4: that going, oh, my God, like we were last year, right?
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  Speaker 4: Nobody's going, oh, my God, because we've seen this story,
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  Speaker 4: this song and dance, so many times before. And one
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  Speaker 4: thing I don't want to hear today, because I got
• 2:42
  Speaker 4: a lot of this yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, how lucky they were. Luck, luck, luck. Man.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-mm.
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  Speaker 2: This is football. This is pro sports.
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  Speaker 4: Things go certain ways. The ball bounces certain ways. You
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  Speaker 4: make your own luck. You have to put yourself in
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  Speaker 4: position to be there. They put themselves in position. They
• 3:01
  Speaker 4: went for two on consecutive drives and got two. They
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  Speaker 4: put themselves right there. So don't give me any of
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  Speaker 4: this crap about luck. You make luck.
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  Speaker 3: Can I explain one thing? Here's what's so funny. Moser,
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  Speaker 3: you said it's inexplicable.
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  Speaker 2: Inexplicable. which I would agree with.
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  Speaker 3: But how is it possible that it is inexplicable and
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  Speaker 3: also wholly predictable?
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  Speaker 2: At the same time.
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  Speaker 3: Like, none of us are surprised by what happened last night.
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  Speaker 2: That is not a.
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  Speaker 1: You can.
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  Speaker 2: It is impossible, if you watch.
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  Speaker 3: The Broncos for a calendar year, to be surprised by
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  Speaker 3: that result at the end of the game.
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  Speaker 1: It's not possible. When they tied it at 16, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos are going to win. But here's the big.
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  Speaker 3: Thing, to Vic's credit... You can talk about, hey, did
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  Speaker 3: you get a couple of calls?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Was that a pass interference late in that game? No,
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  Speaker 2: that was an interception.
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  Speaker 3: I think anybody who is being honest with themselves, if
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  Speaker 3: she was on the other foot, and that's Devontae Adams
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  Speaker 3: and Pat Sertan, Sertan makes that play.
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  Speaker 2: We would be furious. You would be furious about it.
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  Speaker 3: But to Vic's point, here's the thing about Bo, and
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  Speaker 3: this is what I can't get my head wrapped around.
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  Speaker 3: To this day, we've watched Bo for over two years
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  Speaker 3: and some change now.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a small sample size.
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  Speaker 3: We've watched 38 games or something like that of Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 3: Bo Nix in the first half, as bad as that looked,
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  Speaker 3: You guys remember the play where he's rolling out to
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  Speaker 3: his right, and he does the cardinal sin of a
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  Speaker 3: Pop Warner quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Throws it across the field.
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  Speaker 3: Rolling to his right, throws it across his body over
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  Speaker 3: the middle of the field to Cortland Sutton, which looks
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  Speaker 3: like an easy interception to Cortland's credit, plays great DB,
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  Speaker 3: and knocks.
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  Speaker 2: The ball away. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That guy can make that throw and also can make
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  Speaker 3: the two-point.
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  Speaker 2: Conversion throw that was a millimeter.
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  Speaker 3: From touching the helmet of a DB perfectly to Jalen Waddle.
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  Speaker 2: And I just don't get it. It's amazing to watch.
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  Speaker 4: Help me understand how no pressure or little pressure early
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  Speaker 4: in the game and he really doesn't perform. Highest pressure
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  Speaker 4: possible and he performs like an all-pro.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: It is the opposite of what most people feel. I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking, Vic, watching some of the President's Cup over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend. But it's almost like, you know what, this guy,
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  Speaker 1: he's missing every four-footer. You know, you keep missing four-footers,
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  Speaker 1: you're having holes, you're losing.
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  Speaker 2: But banging 80-footers.
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: But you get, you know, holes 13 through 18. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this guy's running in 20 to 50-footers, right? Or he's
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  Speaker 1: sticking it tight.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you an example.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys watched the President's Cup yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Morikawa and Matsuyama are trading.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, 50-footer, 50-footer, tying holes.
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  Speaker 3: And then I watched Matsuyama. He's got a four footer
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  Speaker 3: to tie a hole and he lips out. And I go,
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  Speaker 3: of course, of course, of course he did.
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  Speaker 2: But, but that's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: Most, I played with a guy in baseball. He couldn't,
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  Speaker 3: he was a shortstop. If you hit him a routine
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  Speaker 3: ground ball, he'd, Bumble it. If you ask for him
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  Speaker 3: to make a diving stop up the middle, roll over,
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  Speaker 3: one bounce, turn, throw, like he could make that play.
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  Speaker 3: And it just feels like that's what Bo is. It's
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  Speaker 3: whenever you have to do something, he will. But if
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  Speaker 3: you don't have to, he won't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to say something preposterous, but it goes right
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  Speaker 1: along with how preposterous it is what the Broncos are
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  Speaker 1: doing on a weekly basis.
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  Speaker 2: And that is this.
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  Speaker 1: One of these quarterbacks from the first half to the
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  Speaker 1: second half, one is Bo Nix, and one is a
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: Sean Payton-made robot alien. Now, I don't know which one
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  Speaker 1: is which. Does he start the alien out first, and
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: the alien just sucks in the first half, and then
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  Speaker 1: the real Bo Nix takes over at halftime? Or does
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  Speaker 1: Sean say, all right, put Bo back in his locker,
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: bring out alien Bo, and then put him into the
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: second half, and that's the guy that gets it done? Because, Vic,
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, they're two different people. Yeah. Mentally and physically,
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  Speaker 1: they are two different people from one half to the other.
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  Speaker 2: It's incredible.
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  Speaker 4: When he's forced to process things early, and it's not
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  Speaker 4: all him, by the way. There's play calling involved, too.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not pinning this all on Bo, so don't get
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  Speaker 4: this mistaken. But when he's forced to process things early,
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  Speaker 4: he's just, you know, it looks like he's a little, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the word, not scared, but just cautious, okay?
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  Speaker 4: And then he does some things, you're like, what is that?
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  Speaker 4: As soon as the processing stops, as soon as you
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  Speaker 4: stop thinking, he looks like a completely different human being.
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  Speaker 4: This much I know, though, guys. You tell me if
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  Speaker 4: I'm wrong here. All right, so we've seen this for.
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  Speaker 2: Two seasons now. You open the game, and it's three
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  Speaker 2: and out. Three and out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Three and out.
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  Speaker 2: Last year, three and out. Yeah. The Denver three and outs.
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: Forget Broncos. They're the Denver three and outs. So, new
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  Speaker 2: play caller. And what's happening this year to start the games?
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  Speaker 1: Three and out.
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  Speaker 2: Three and out. I don't know if it's the play caller.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the play caller when you
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  Speaker 4: start three and out all the time. If you change
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  Speaker 4: play callers and you're still doing three and out, it's
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  Speaker 4: the players and not the play caller.
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  Speaker 2: In my opinion.
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  Speaker 4: It's not the play caller anymore. You're doing different things,
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  Speaker 4: but you're still getting three and out. I think if
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  Speaker 4: you change everything on the periphery but the players... And the.
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  Speaker 1: Same thing continues to happen time after time. It's the players.
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  Speaker 5: It is.
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  Speaker 3: But it's just funny you mentioned that. LG asked me
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  Speaker 3: on the postgame show yesterday. She goes, what have you
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  Speaker 3: seen from Davis Webb? And I go, do you guys
• 8:44
  Speaker 3: remember last year when Pat Shermer was removed as the
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  Speaker 3: Buffs play caller, but we didn't know it for like
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  Speaker 3: three or four weeks? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They had a mystery play caller up there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: If nobody told you that Davis Webb was the OC,
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  Speaker 3: would you think there's a change?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 4: No, it looks like the same offense. It's the exact
• 9:02
  Speaker 4: same offense. Which is why my premise exists here. At
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  Speaker 4: some point, the players, something happens. Some switch is hit.
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  Speaker 4: And you guys saw at the beginning of the third quarter,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if television showed it, but we saw it.
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  Speaker 2: We saw Davis.
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  Speaker 4: Webb and Sean Payton going back and forth. And that's
• 9:22
  Speaker 4: just perfectly natural before people get all whacked out about it. Yeah,
• 9:26
  Speaker 4: coaches yell at assistants. They exchange ideas very loudly.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Sean Payton's yelled at pretty much everybody on his
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: offense at one point or another.
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  Speaker 4: But to say that the game changed because Sean Payton
• 9:38
  Speaker 4: yelled at Davis Webb, no. They just started making plays.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's the play call anymore. I'm done
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  Speaker 4: with that theory.
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: Nope.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what's amazing to me, too, it's how they
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  Speaker 1: also do it. It's a different Bo Nix. It's a
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  Speaker 1: different feel. They just start rolling and rolling and rolling,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody gets in on it. But they're also the beneficiaries, Vic,
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: of– forget about the pass interference– Matt Stafford doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: that throw that Hufanga took to the house.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he did.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but you see what I'm getting at?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Stafford is the NFL career record holder
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: in pick sixes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he does.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: You're right, he is. But what I'm talking about in
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: that situation, well, you know what? That's probably the I'm
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: so good with my arm that I can get it there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably.
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  Speaker 1: It was a silly, silly throw, though. At 1916, it
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  Speaker 1: was a silly, silly throw.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so let me just give you a couple things here.
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  Speaker 3: I was howling laughing last night. I saw somebody tweeted
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: this video of... Ever seen that Jake Gyllenhaal movie, Prisoners?
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: But it's a scene where he's got a computer keyboard
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: and he is slamming it against his desk. Keys are
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: flying everywhere. And it says, knowing Bo Nix is trash,
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: but you can't prove it because he keeps winning.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: And all I thought to myself was, guys....
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: If the Broncos were the Chiefs and we're watching every
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  Speaker 3: week them down 16 and a half and they're winning this.
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  Speaker 2: Way, we would be insane about the way they're winning.
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: We would be going nuts. There's no way they can
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: keep doing this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Those mothers, they're not real. I'd be doing that.
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  Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Something that you mentioned, Vic, and
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: I can't. I think these are maybe the most important
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: plays of the game. The Rams went out in the
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: second half, and I think very obviously felt like they
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: had the game in hand. I think they cruised so
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  Speaker 3: easily in that first half, and they're probably thinking to themselves, man,
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  Speaker 3: we got inside the red zone like three different times
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  Speaker 3: and settled for a field goal. We could be up
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  Speaker 3: 30 to nothing at half if we took care of
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  Speaker 3: our business.
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  Speaker 2: You come out in the second half. And you go
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  Speaker 2: three and up.
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  Speaker 3: Go three and out, but Vic, when you do get
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: a touchdown on the board, you get the two-point conversion.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: You're like, okay, well, now you're within, I guess, hypothetically,
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  Speaker 3: a score. To get a touchdown the next drive and
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  Speaker 3: the two-point conversion, I think sent the Rams into a
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  Speaker 3: full panic.
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  Speaker 2: Because they thought, we're at least up three possessions.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: And for you to.
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  Speaker 3: Erase that in an instant is, first of all, a
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  Speaker 3: complete confidence killer for the Rams, but secondly.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, that is such a boost.
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  Speaker 3: You got an air compressor worth of inflated confidence off
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  Speaker 3: of two drives because not only did you get the touchdowns,
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: you got the two two-point conversions.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: That erased all of the bad that happened for the
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: first 30 minutes of that game. Well, there's a game
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: within a game.
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  Speaker 4: And, you know, obviously the four quarters, things went crazy
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: in every quarter.
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  Speaker 2: But that third quarter, and you just hit on it,
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  Speaker 2: is when the game obviously changed.
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  Speaker 4: The Broncos convert two touchdowns with two-point conversions to tie
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  Speaker 4: the game.
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  Speaker 2: In the third quarter. They did that all in the
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: third quarter.
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  Speaker 4: At halftime, the Broncos had 67 yards of offense.
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  Speaker 2: In the third quarter, they had almost double that. In
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  Speaker 2: the third quarter.
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  Speaker 1: It's insane.
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  Speaker 2: In the third quarter, the defense held the Rams to
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  Speaker 2: two three-and-outs in the third quarter.
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  Speaker 1: The Rams, though, Vic, they came out. Obviously, they punted,
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  Speaker 1: but then they started to get it going. They get
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: that first touchdown. But this is where, again, I go
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: back to Todd or Columbus's. It's like all of this
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  Speaker 1: is true at the same time, and I can't believe it.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Everything is true at the same time. They can't be
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: doing this, but they're doing it. When you look at
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: that first half, and you look at those three possessions
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: in a row where the Broncos held the Rams to
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: field goals, okay? Three field goals after the touchdown. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's huge. Vic, that's the defense. Again, even though they're
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: getting driven on a little bit, seven plays here, 14
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  Speaker 1: plays there, 10 plays there, they hold them to a
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: field goal, right? Most teams, again, Brett, it's at least
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: 21 or 24, nothing at halftime.
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  Speaker 2: At least. At least.
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  Speaker 1: But it's only 16, and so.
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  Speaker 1: It's like man alive. That defense comes up huge, and
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: the offense knows it, and then they put it together.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: This book, we've read it so many times, but every
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: week we say, that next page, it can't be the
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: same as it was before, and yet it is. It's amazing.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: I had quite the experience last night, personally.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: I want to share a couple things that happened, and
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: we'll do that in the next segment, that I saw,
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: and I was like, wow, I have not seen that before.
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: Happened post-game during our post-game show.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that. Yeah, I know. You were watching.
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  Speaker 2: And I need to see video of that.
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  Speaker 4: If anybody has video, we'll share it in a moment.
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  Speaker 4: But overall, Hufanga goes from a guy who can't catch
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: the ball. He dropped a pick in his chest early
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: in the game, if you remember. To a guy who
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: suddenly cannot drop the ball. He found everything. He found
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: his way to the football every time Stafford threw it.
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  Speaker 4: The clinching pick at the end was also a great play.
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  Speaker 4: Hufanga was phenomenal.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I want to get to this, plus something
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: that was said in the postgame by DMACC that I
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: wholly disagree with. So we'll get to all that in
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: just a couple of minutes on this Rally House Football Monday.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Stick around.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: When things aren't going well and you're trying to, you know,
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: you're always open, you know, for suggestions, you know, and
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: so just try to be like, all right, next series,
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: here are the things. And we got to some runs
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: that I think put us on schedule and took some
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: of the pressure off the QB, and I think that's
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: part of it. We've talked a lot about under-center football,
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: and I think that's important as well. And so the
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: second half was much better. We'll look at the tape,
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: I'm sure, and we'll pull our hair out with some stuff,
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: and then we'll be excited about some things too.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Sean Payton on the communication he had with Davis Webb
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: after that first drive. It is a Rally House football Monday.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Rally House shop every team in town. We'll talk to
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Ryan Harris at 8 o'clock. But I got a couple
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: of thoughts from the game. But, Vic, you said you
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: wanted to mention something from postgame.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: You know, the postgame show is always fun after a
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Broncos win. You're sitting out there, Mike Sanford and myself,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: doing the Mile High postgame live. You were on the
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: show last night, Brett. Thank you very much for your presence.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: And you guys saw it. The fans are crazy.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: They've got all day to get lit, right?
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: All day.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: And it's very apparent that a lot of them exiting
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: the facility are excited more than you know. So last night,
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: we're in like the third segment. And this Bronco fan
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: comes behind us. We're seated in two chairs. This Bronco
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: fan comes behind us and starts yelling in our faces.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: And we're trying to do television, so you just sort
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: of go with the flow. He's yelling right at us.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: And he's saying something about Nakua, Puka, Nakua. I'm like,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: turn around.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what?
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Next thing you know, a Rams fan who is standing
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: about four feet away from this guy on the other
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: side of us is wearing a Puka Nakua jersey, throws
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: a swing at this Broncos fan, and he's got like
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: a sweater in his hand, and hits the Bronco fan
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: in the head. And these guys are ready to go.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: This is at the end of our segment. Was that
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: on television or were we in a graphic?
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: I didn't see the Rams fan, but I saw the
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Rams sleeve on screen.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: So here's what it looked like to me.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: It looked like the guy flipped his hat off first,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: like hit the bill like this and flipped the.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Guy's hat off. I saw that part, yeah. And then it.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was a punch, but he
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: hit him either with his hat or a jersey or something.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he... Was it a punch?
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Well, what happened was that Rams fan who did that
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: started walking off and two Bronco fans went after him.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: And so me and Mike are like, we got to
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: stop this. Yeah.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Because, I mean, it was.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: This is the middle of our television show.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Did they actually fight?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know. They took off into the dark.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: They just started running. But it's crazy what you see
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: after these games. It's absolute lunacy.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And I love it. Speaking of, can I mention something
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: that I saw in postgame?
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: So DMACC, after he did get stoned with the press
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: conference stuff, joined Vic in Sanford outside the stadium. He
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: kept repeating something that I think is wholly false. He
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: kept saying, this is just like Tim Tebow. This is not,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: and I understand I wasn't here for Tebow. This is
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: not like Tebow, and I'll explain the difference. Tebow would
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: have a drive at the end of the game that
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: would get them to win, and you'd win 13-9. Bo
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Nix has to put up 30 points and a half
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: to win a football game. I understand, but this is
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: not Tebow because here's the difference. Tebow never looks like
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: He was the best quarterback in the league for a half.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Bo Nix looks like he's one of the best in
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: the league for two full quarters and like one of
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: the worst in the league for two full quarters.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: So weird.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I don't think DMACC is comparing Tebow's arm or Tebow's
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: accuracy or Tebow's.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Game to Bo Nix's. That's not the comp here.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: The comp is for Bronco fans who experienced that 2011 season.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: And it's very similar. The game ends. The Broncos win,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: and you're sitting there going, how? Yeah.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: That's where the comp is. That's where he's explaining what
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: it was like in 2011, Moshe. In 2011, they go
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: on that win streak, and after every game, you're like, huh?
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: What the hell just happened?
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Can I give Mosher's point from the first segment an
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: extra emphasis because I think you're absolutely right. As much
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: as the offense had to pick up their game and
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: play well in the second half.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: And they did. I don't think this.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Is.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's arguable.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: To me, the reason why you won that football game
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: is still because of the defense, and here's why.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: We knew the Rams were going to score.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I think the Rams, offensively, even without Nakua last night,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: they're about as close.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Two.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Perfect offenses you're going to find. They're able to run
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: the ball. Stafford's really good. He finds wide receivers. They
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: can scheme guys open. Guys, how many touchdowns were left
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: on the board because Stafford didn't see an out and up?
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, there was at least two different plays in
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: which there was somebody wide open for a touchdown that
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Stafford just didn't see.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: By the way, the out and up is a pretty
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: basic play in football.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I can't believe how many times the Broncos fell for it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Both Sertan and Riley Moss.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: So here's why I'm saying the defense was the reason
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: why you won the game. Yes, the offense had to
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: get you back in it. But when you have 67
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: yards of offense and a half, and that offense is
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: held to just 16 points, and I mean that by
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: just 16. We knew the Rams were going to score most.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: We knew it. We knew they were probably going to
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: score in the 20s.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: I think Vic was the one who said on Friday, like, hey,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: you got to put up like 28 points to win
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: this game. Well, when you get held to zero at half,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: but the Broncos, to your point, Moj, they bent but
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: did not break. They held them to field goals when
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: you got into the money zone, the red zone.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: What else did they do? You put up 30 points.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: You won by four.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: They gave you seven points. They turned a turnover into
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: a touchdown. and gave you, gifted you another seven to
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: put you in even better position. And almost at every turn,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: you go back and look at these drives. Here's what's crazy.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: The game felt like it was over at half, as
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: most Broncos games do. You go out, you have a
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: three and out to start the second half. You're like,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: oh God, this to me felt like this was going
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: to get very Chiefs-y. You're down big, you go out
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: in the second half, you fumble all over yourself, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I mean that by going three and out.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: And you give the ball right back to the Rams.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: But then what happened then?
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: The defense holds them to a three and out. But
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: here's the big thing. Big thing to me is when
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: the Broncos made a big mistake and Bo Nix makes
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: a big mistake. It's a 16-16 game. You feel like
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: momentum has turned in your favor. You force a punt
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: by the Rams to go out and throw a pick.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: And the drive starts at the 37-yard line. to hold
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: the Rams to a seven-yard drive, be forced to kick
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: a field goal, is massive.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Massive.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Beyond massive. It was, again, these are things where you're
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: just leaning and leaning and leaning on that defense to just,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: can you get another stop, please? Yeah. That sort of thing. Again, Vicky,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that first half, I look at the touchdown and three
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: field goals in a row, and I'm like, this thing
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: could have gotten out of control really, really, really quickly.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: like really quickly, but it never got out of control.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: It got bummer. It got, it got all these kinds
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: of things in terms of, of the Rams offense and
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: putting up 16 points, but it never got out of
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: control and it never got too far. It wasn't a
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: bridge too far. And so it allowed you to just
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: keep chipping away. And then there must be some sort
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: of interesting dynamic between the defense and the offense, because
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: your offense continually puts the defense in a bad spot
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: because If you're just going three and out and four
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and out in this or whatever it may be, hey, man,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: that defense doesn't even get a blow. They're right back
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: on the field, and they've got to bust their hump,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: and the fact that they held them to field goals
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: is absolutely amazing.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Well, that's why I'm a little confused as to what
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: to think of the Broncos' defense last night. Just on paper,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: if you look at the statistics of the game, they
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: got torched, right? Statistically, in the passing game, Matt Stafford
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: goes 55 pass attempts, 390 yards. Both Riley Moss and
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Pat Sertan had their share.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Of tough moments, okay? Both of them, both corners. So, statistically,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: the Broncos' defense did not have a good night. However,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: in moments in that game, in the first half, holding
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: them to field goals, holding them to field goals, not
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: allowing them to get inside the end zone, but one
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: time in that first half is a win.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Because you're exactly right. The scales were imbalanced. The game
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: was over. But the defense.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: kept them in the game.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Vic, do you recall when the Broncos offense and the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Broncos defense got in a fight in the locker room?
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: What was that, 10 years ago? How long ago was that?
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I don't remember.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, remember, there was a big problem. The offense and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the defense were completely disconnected and it boiled over at
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: halftime one time, or after the game. Do you recall that?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: For the life of me, I don't remember. Which team
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: was that?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: This was after the Peyton Manning era. It was the
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: year after. Okay, okay.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I can understand that the year after.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, but then here's what happens with this team. It's
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: almost like they're two different units, obviously, but the defense
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: is like, hey, man, just, Brett, they've got to believe now.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, just get a couple stops here, man. And
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: they'll crank it up eventually. Talking about the offense, right? Yeah.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: And that's exactly what they do. And so then the
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: offense starts to feed on itself. And I think the
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: defense then feeds on that offense. Like, oh, yeah, man,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: they're coming back for us. The belief system that grows
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: at a halftime of these Broncos games is, Vic, it's
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: almost supernatural. I don't even know how to describe it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Guys, oh, yeah, they cross midfield because– I was going
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: to ask, did the Broncos cross midfield in the first half?
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: They did. It led to the Lutz missed field goal,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: the boink. I thought that was going to come back
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: to hurt them, by the way. So they did cross
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: it once.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Was it a boink or a doink?
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: A boink-doink.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: But the difference, as somebody noted here on the text line,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: the Broncos finished drives in the end zone. And the Rams,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: for the first half, couldn't finish drives. And that will
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: catch up to you. You have to finish them.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Not only do the Broncos finish them. I thought it
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: was awesome that it's still a lot of time left
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: in the game, right? I mean, it's early third quarter,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: and they're scoring touchdowns and saying, screw it, let's go
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: for two. And they're doing that analytics thing.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: And they did it two times in a row, and
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: it worked. If you could make it look that easy,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: I don't understand why it's so hard early. And that sense,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: let me put it together a little better. How can
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the Broncos make offense look so easy at times? and
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: yet so hard to start the game.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: By the way, people have reminded me, and thank you, Jesse, too. Vic,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: December of 16, Russell Okung and Aqib Tlaib got at it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: An offense won after defense and vice versa. That's what happened.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, different team, obviously.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it was, but I'm saying that they
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: were completely disconnected. They were completely disconnected. These guys aren't disconnected,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and there's no... There's no angst that even though the
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: defense is kicking so much major butt, they've got to
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: believe now that in any situation, the offense is going
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: to be able to come back and make them whole again.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny?
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: It's remarkable.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: We were just talking about this.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Like, if the Broncos have the ball late in the game,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: you just feel like Knicks is going to get them
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: in position to try and win. And we were talking
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: about this last week. And what I also said with that, if...
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: You're the Rams defense, and there's two minutes left, and
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: the Broncos are down four. You should be terrified of
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: what Bo Nix is capable of doing to you because
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: he's just really good late in the game. And what's
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: funny is if the opposite happened, you should be equally
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: as horrified if Matt Stafford had it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: He had the ball.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: With 47 seconds left down four, drives the Rams to
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the 14-yard line, and you're just like, of course, of course.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: But you're able to make a play. because Hufanga has
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: been a monster. And I will say this. Credit to
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Vance Joseph in that game. To hold the Rams to
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: 26 points while your offense gave you nothing for a half,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: while they turned the ball over in the second half,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: gave them the ball on the 37-yard line. The one
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: play that sticks out to me is you need to
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: stop a drive. You need to hold the Rams and
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Stafford together. Out of the end zone to give yourself
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: a shot. That blitz that Vance Joseph drew up that
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: had the Rams and Stafford confused. which is it looked like,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I think it was a linebacker. You're talking about Hufanga? Yeah,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: it looked like he was showing blitz.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Here he comes. Stafford points it out, says, Kyron, you
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: need to go block him.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: And he did slide over there. Correct.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: But to bring Hufanga off the back end that nobody
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: on offense saw and like a missile takes him out,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: that's a hell of a play call.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Cannonball.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: He looked so fucked up. fast coming off the edge there.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But he did, I mean, Stafford read it what he
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: thought was correctly, and he did push the running back
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: to make the block.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: But that was after you threw the pick. That's when
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: the ball was at the 37-yard line to start the drive.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: They were right Where were they? They were at the
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: 20-yard line on that play on third and five. That
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: is a chance for like, you're already up three, or
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, the game's tied. If they punch that in
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: the end zone, it's just a gut punch. It's like, okay,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: we've been coming back all day, but we just threw
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: a pick. They capitalized the touchdown. It just would have
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: been really difficult.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: All right, so I want to bring this up again.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: And please, let's, I can't wait to talk to Ryan
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Harris about this because I really, the question remains top
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: of mind.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I contend that the.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Broncos' slow starts, right, these ridiculously slow starts which happen
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: every week, I'm starting to wonder, is it the play
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: call or is it the play?
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: And I'm going with the latter right now.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: I think the players aren't ready for whatever reason, and
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: they're just not there until later in the game. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: I give you an example. Somebody on the text line says, Vic,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: are you drunk? You can't be serious.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I'm dead serious.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: So I'm going to ask you to open the game.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: What did the Broncos do to open the game, first
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: play of the game?
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Do you guys remember? It was a good play call.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: They put Jalen Waddell in the backfield to give him
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: a different look, and they gave J.K. Dobbins the ball
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: run left. Do you remember that?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: They lost two yards. The left side of the line
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: of scrimmage got completely torn apart.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Is that a bad play call?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: No.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: You tell me, guys. Is that a bad play call?
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: No, it's just that that side of the line got
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: blown up.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I don't understand.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Is it a bad play call because it didn't work?
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: If that's your definition of a bad play call, then
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: I think you're defining it wrong. A bad play call
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: is one that's like, why would you do this in
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: this situation?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: It's the first play from scrimmage. Run the ball. And
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: they did it creatively and went backwards. By the way, J.K. Dobbins,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: what did he have? 1.7 yards per carry?
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: He's not right. 2.9 yards per carry. Vic, leading into
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the game all week long, I'm like... He's going to go,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: but I said there's no way he's 100% right. There's
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: no way.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: There's no explosion there. Do you see when Kyron Williams
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: has the ball, how he explodes?
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I don't see that right now with J.K. This is
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: something I mentioned in the offseason.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: When he pinky promises that I'm going to play in
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: every game, and then he has an injury that might
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: hinder his performance, but he's going to go because I
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: made a promise that I'm not going to miss any game.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: This is, I think, what you get. Now, credit to
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Davis Webb for sticking to it. His longest run of
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: the game, do you know what it was? It was
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: six yards.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: That was J.K.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Dobbins' longest run of the game. But they did feed
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: him the ball 17 times. Like, they stuck with the
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: run game, to Davis Webb's credit.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to try to dumb this down
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: for my own sanity. Because I can't understand and believe
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: what I'm watching. Vic, where's your wand?
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I've got it nearby.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, please grab it. So, for those of you who...
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Do you watch Harry Potter at all?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, baby, Jamal Kill loves Harry Potter.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: No, no Potter for you, huh?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: My wand has a curve.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: So, let me.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Sounds like a personal problem.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: So the writers just left.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, so for all of you who have, because I
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: like Harry Potter.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: The Broncos offense in the first half is his cousin Dudley.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, so you got really nerdy on that one. I've
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: watched them. I don't know who this is. I've never
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: seen these damn things, so I have no idea what
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: you're talking about.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Who does Harry Potter live with in the offseason? Oh,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: his step parents who hate him.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: No, it's his aunt and uncle and his cousin.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Or whatever, yeah. What are you going to do with
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: this piece of wood?
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Well, hold on a second. You go from no magic
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: and a total blank hole to this second half where
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: you are full.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: On Harry Potter. You're Quidditch. Quidditch, Harry.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Quidditching all over the place, man. You're like, it's Patronus
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and his monknessness. You know, all this kind of crap.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Give me a wave of the wand, man. Give me
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: All right, so there you are. You're battling Voldemort, man.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: You're out there making all these spells and turning frogs
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: into alligators and whatever it is you're doing. I don't
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: know how that happens because, Vic, I don't know that
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen it consistently like this from a team.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: You can have streaks and a month worth or whatever,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: but how do you define it when it happens time
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: after time after time after time?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Hey, Bronco fans, you won't admit this. You won't admit this.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: People won't admit it. Sure is fun. Sure is. It
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: sure is fun. It is. Gang, it's fun.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Rally House Football Monday here on Altitude Sports Radio. Ryan
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Harris is going to join us in 20 minutes to grab.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: All right, so Ryan Harris is going to join us
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: in 15 minutes.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: It's a Rally House Football Monday.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Rally House shop every team in town.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: You're trying to piece this game together. How do you
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: do it? And I'll just say this. I'm done.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: I'm done trying to figure out why things don't go
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: well in the first half. I'm done trying to figure
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: out how this team comes back and beats teams when
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: they're down big. I'm done trying to figure out why
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: the first half just doesn't matter for them. My whole
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: point to why I would take not necessarily a negative
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: tone after the Broncos would win football games over the
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: last year like this But a skeptical one in that,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: is this sustainable?
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Turns out, yes.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's been over a year.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: And my whole thing, Vic, was when you play against
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: the better opponents in the league, if you do that,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: they will make you pay and you will lose without
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: a chance to win.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Hey. But you do this against the Rams, it doesn't, okay, fine.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I'm convinced now. You got me.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Shame on you if you're going to apologize for winning
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: that game against a very good team.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Shame on you. No apologies. You beat them. Did you
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: get some breaks?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Did they get some breaks? Sure. Dems are the breaks
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: of football. Things happened perfectly down the stretch?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Did R.J. Harvey fumble right into the awaiting arms of
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Pat Bryant?
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Did a couple passes by Bowe get broken up by
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: his own receivers so they didn't get intercepted?
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: So what? We've seen it before.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: No apologies for beating the Rams the way the Broncos did.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: You beat them. You're a good team. You want to
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: become a great team? Do what you did in the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: second half a bit in the first half, and then
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: we got something. Can I ask you a question?
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: What deficit would the Broncos need to have for you
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: to think in the second half they can't come back?
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know because I thought it was over. Again,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I thought it was over. My wife and I went
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: to the game, and I told her at halftime, Okay,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: this is one. You know, the Rams are really good.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: These aren't the Giants here. These are the Rams. It's
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: a really good team. They're not coming back to win
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: this game. And they did. I thought the same thing.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: And it actually says, Brett, isn't a big part of
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: what you do, trying to figure out what's going on?
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I can't explain this to you. Okay? I don't think
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: anybody can. It is beyond explanation.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: It is just the fact that every time, and I
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: think this is what's so confusing is There's things that
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: we know about this team, Vic. We know the defense
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: is good. We know that you have a really good secondary.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Here's what I just don't know. I don't know how
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: a quarterback can look the way that Bo Nix does
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: in the first half and then look the way he
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: does when the game matters the most.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I've never seen anything quite like it before. I really
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: believe a slap in the face goes a long way.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean by that? And I
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: don't mean that. Sure. No, I get it.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: You're talking figuratively, figuratively, not literally. Yeah.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Because early is like, Hey, what's up everybody. And then
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden you get slapped in the face,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: just a hard slap and you wake up, you wake
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: the hell up and you're ready to go. You're aware,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: which is why I don't believe anymore that the play
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: calling is is the primary reason the Broncos get off
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: to slow starts. We've now seen two different play callers.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: We've seen them try to establish the run. We've seen
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: them come out passing the ball. We've seen everything. I
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: saw the play calls last night. They were good plays.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: They're not being executed. For whatever reason, the players in
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: the first quarters of these games, they don't show up offensively.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know why. I can't put my finger on it.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: But to say automatically, and everybody's going to say.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Well, that was just a terrible play call.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: No, they're not. What? Why are they bad? Because they
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: didn't work.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: It's because people are looking for answers where there are none.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Just go a little Occam's razor here, man. Can we
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: just do that a little bit? The simplest explanation is
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: guys just aren't playing well. They're just not executing like
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: they should, okay? That's the simple aspect of it. What
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I'm also trying to say is it's compounded by, I'm
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: not being hyperbolic here when I say this. Guys, for
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: a prolonged period of time, I don't know that I've
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: ever seen this before in my life. It would be
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: like the Avs.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: It'd be like the Avs... In almost every game or
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: most games, they're down by two goals going to the
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: third period and they score three and win. You see
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: what I mean? It's kind of that same thing where
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: if you're down by two going to the third, you
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: should lose the damn game, right?
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: It's crazy, Vic. I'm very well aware of something, though.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I've noticed this.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Now, I've seen enough football in these first three weeks.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: I'm watching Kyron Williams run the ball and the quick
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: trigger moves.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: The decisiveness, just the speed, the quick twitch.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: He's good, man.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: It's a different type of ball carrier. You know, you
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: saw Kenneth Walker in the opener. Different kind of ball carrier.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Saw Bijan Robinson. You see a lot of these dudes.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, the Broncos don't have one of those.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: They don't have one.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: No.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: The Broncos running backs do not possess whatever that is.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: They don't.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: They don't.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: They don't have it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Vic, they keep showing the PI.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: They don't have it.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: They keep showing the PI over and over and over again.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: The more you watch it, the more egregious it really is.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: What Bryant did to sell it. What they called it? Yeah,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: what Bryant did to sell that call.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: See, let me defend Pat Bryant, who was a veteran
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: on that move. He sold it after he was a ninja.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Bumped, though.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: He's in his route toward the sideline, and he's bumped twice.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: And then at the end, he sells it because he
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: feels it.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I would encourage you to go back and watch it
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: time and time again. Because it's all Pat Bryant. I'm sorry, Brett.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: It's all... It's all Pat Bryant. I'm sorry.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: A texture says, offer Bo a $ 35 million a year contract,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: $ 2 million to be the backup in the first half,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: $ 33 million to start in the second.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: And it might work. Here's what's funny, though.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Like, when you look at the way that this team operates,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: and Vic's right, they don't have, they just don't possess
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: a running back that, Ben, I'm watching over the weekend,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: and you see these Kyron Williams, and you see these
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: and you see like Jameer Gibbs.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Did you see his cutback touchdown over the, oh my God.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man. J.K.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Dobbins possessed some of that. We saw it last year,
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: that ability to stop and start, stop and start.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I just don't see it right now.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: And you can blame the offensive line for no holes
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: being available, but it was Terrell Davis who told me
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: last year. You remember when Super Bowl week, I asked
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Terrell Davis, what's wrong with the Broncos running game? And
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: he said, it's the running backs.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I think this is the same thing applies to really
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: good wide receivers. You ever notice how Larry Fitzgerald, it
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: didn't matter if it was Carson Palmer, Kurt Warner, or
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: John Skelton throwing him the football, he'd have 100 yards.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: You ever notice that? You ever notice how whatever.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Running back you're talking about, if we consider them an all-timer,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: They can switch teams like Saquon Barkley did, like Derrick
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Henry did. They can have different offensive lines. They can
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: have offensive linemen go down with injury. They will still
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: get 80 to 100 yards a game.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: That's because they themselves are the difference maker.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Other people aren't making a difference for that player to
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: be good. They are the difference maker.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: So when I told you the Chiefs last year, their
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: leading rusher was Kareem Hunt with like 600 yards.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: They couldn't run the football.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Mm-mm.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: They didn't revamp their offensive line over the course of
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: the offseason. You could argue their offensive line got worse
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: over the offseason. Here's what they did.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: They got a dude.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: They got a dude. And the dude is really, really good.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: And that's the difference. And the Broncos just don't. I
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: think J.K. Dobbins, when healthy, is a pretty good running back.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: He's not that. He's not what we're talking about. He's
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: pretty good. He's very obviously playing through an injury. He is.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: He got plenty of opportunities last night.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, he did.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: You can't say they didn't give him the ball. Yes,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: he did. They fed it to him 17 times. That's
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of– for a J.K. Dobbins night, that's a lot. Yeah.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: 17 carries for 49 yards. That's 2.9 a carry. That
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: is not going to cut it.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: A long of six. So, it's not all on J.K.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: I don't want to– manifest this thing that he's done.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: But at some point, you've got to break something more
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: than six yards.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Can I ask you guys a quick question before we
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: get to Ryan Harris? And this is a huge shout-out
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: to the Broncos fans that were at the stadium yesterday.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: You guys made a gigantic difference in that game.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. There is no question.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Especially on that last drive. Point to nothing else. It's
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: the last play of the game.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Stafford's got his hands over his ear holes because he
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: can't hear the coach. He has to run to the
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: sideline like it's a Pop Warner game. Get the play
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: call from McVay by his mouth.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Mouth to helmet.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Sprint back to the huddle with 15 seconds left is
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: when they started the huddle.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: They're scrambling.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: What did you guys think about Sean Payton taking a
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: timeout there? The Rams were panicked. They had to sprint
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: to the line just to get the snap off. And now, look,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: everything worked.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: There must have been some confusion defensively. Had to be, right?
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there must have been like, hey, some guy doesn't
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: know what he's doing, so you got to make sure.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what? I'd rather take the time out.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: As opposed to both teams be scrambling and have them
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: pulling out on you, I'd rather get set in my D,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: see what's going on, see what the formation is from
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: the offense, and then go play. One last thing before
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: we get to Ryan Harris. The second story at ESPN.com
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: today is something that Sean Payton has reiterated time and
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: time again from the start of the offseason all the
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: way through camp all the way to today. Payton, Broncos
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: can't keep relying on comebacks.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, they can.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so here's what I'm going to say
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: to Sean Payton. Hey, hey, hey, counterpoint.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, they can.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Because I've been saying this. I'm like, Payton's got a point.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: He's absolutely right. They cannot do that. They can't walk
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: that razor straight. thin line, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: He goes, I'm comfortable with the grit of the team.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: We played well in the fourth quarter. I'm uncomfortable with
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: how we start the game. We're going to be in
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: tight games, but as the head coach, you can't possibly
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: be comfortable with the way the first half unfolded. We
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: have to find a way to play better earlier. That
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: area needs to get better. And I'm thinking, yeah, you're right.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I think ideally you're right, but you keep pulling the
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: rabbit out from the hat. I mean, it's amazing.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: You can't tell me that you can't rely on that.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: when that's what I've said for about 18 straight weeks,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: and it turns out I've been wrong almost every single time.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Every time.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: I can't continue to be wrong over and over again,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: and then also be right.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: That's not possible. It's not possible.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: And my whole thought was, when you play teams like
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: the Rams, if you do that, they aren't going to
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: allow you to come back.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Turns out I'm wrong.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: About that, too. It's just that's who you are. It's
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: what you do.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Hey, Brent, if you do that against the 49ers in
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Santa Clara, there ain't no way you're going to win.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Boy, this window changes the perception of the next few games.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: It gives you a little leeway, man. And I want
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: to get to that in a little bit, but let's
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: take a break. Get to Ryan Harris next.