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Engaging Engagements · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with her radio guys, Welcome to the most engaged week
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Speaker 1: in bachelor history. I mean, this week is up there
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Speaker 1: with the end of an episode of Paradise. You know,
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Speaker 1: this is There's been four bachelor engagements this week, which
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Speaker 1: is seriously like a Bachelor in Paradise finale. Why is that?
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Speaker 1: Is this? Like? Is everybody is it? Like is the moon?
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Speaker 1: You know, is the moon turning circles in a weird way? Like?
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Speaker 1: Why is love so prevalent right now? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: My sister got engaged three weeks ago too. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: we love him. He's perfect. He's my parents dream. He
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Speaker 1: is somebody that I've known for um gosh, like fifteen years.
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Speaker 1: They actually met in seventh grade. So she's happy. She's thrilled.
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Speaker 1: He's so happy. Yeah, she's great. He fits in with
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Speaker 1: the family very well. His parents are awesome, and Jared
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Speaker 1: loves his new brother in law. So that's great. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So then we've got a lot of engagements we're going
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Speaker 1: to talk about. We also actually need to talk about
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Speaker 1: something that we love, which is each other. And we've
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Speaker 1: been together now for four years, which is longer than
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Speaker 1: you and Jared, isn't it? Yes, because you and I
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Speaker 1: were on the air for almost a year by the
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Speaker 1: time that we came out as a public couple. Look
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Speaker 1: at this partnership. This is special. Okay, Ashley, we have
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Speaker 1: some really cool things going on for our four year anniversary.
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Speaker 1: So if you don't know what we're talking about, Almost
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Speaker 1: Famous has been around now for four years. This is crazy,
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Speaker 1: I mean, so awesome and so exciting. So Ashley, for
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Speaker 1: our four year anniversary, we are celebrating in what way
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Speaker 1: well we are gonna give to our audience, because if
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Speaker 1: it weren't for them, if it weren't if it weren't
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Speaker 1: for them, we wouldn't have a show still. So we're
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Speaker 1: so grateful you guys for listening for whole whole four
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Speaker 1: years that we are going to be giving away four beautiful,
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Speaker 1: like really classy guys custom made Almost Famous rings. Thereby
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Speaker 1: you can look at the company on Instagram. It's at
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Speaker 1: Love around the Neck. So we're giving away four of
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Speaker 1: these personalized rings are fourteen carrot yellow gold with diamonds.
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Speaker 1: The rings are all inside seven so if it doesn't
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Speaker 1: fit in your ring finger, it'll it'll fit on your
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Speaker 1: index or your middle finger or something like that. Um
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Speaker 1: and in the inside a f as an Almost Famous
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Speaker 1: is ingrained and they're so pretty guys. In addition to
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Speaker 1: the ring, the winners are going to get hidden garden
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Speaker 1: flowers two dozen red roses of course. So we're gonna
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Speaker 1: be giving out these sets each week until June fourteen,
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Speaker 1: and it starts today May seventeen to June fourteenth. That
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Speaker 1: is your time to enter. But then we're announcing. We're
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Speaker 1: announcing on June fourteen, so like next week we're not
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Speaker 1: giving away one, like you have a month to enter,
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Speaker 1: and then on June fourteenth were announcing. Also, actually we
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Speaker 1: should add in that the ring is made by Love
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Speaker 1: around the Neck and the flowers are from Hidden Garden Flowers.
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Speaker 1: So thanks to both those brands for like making the
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Speaker 1: super special for all of us. Yeah, so Ben tell
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Speaker 1: them what they have to do to enter. It's really
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Speaker 1: really easy. Okay, here's what you need to do. Follow
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Speaker 1: us on Instagram at Almost Underscore Famous podcast. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: that's one thing. Then click the link in the bio
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Speaker 1: and register for the contest. That's all you need to do.
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Speaker 1: And again, as Ashley said, you have till June to
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Speaker 1: do this, and then on June fourteenth, we're gonna be
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Speaker 1: picking four lucky winners the Ashley If four years ago,
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Speaker 1: four let's say four and a half years ago, somebody
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Speaker 1: comes to you and says, hey, you will have to
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Speaker 1: sit down with Ben Higgins every week for four years
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Speaker 1: of your life, and you'll have to talk about stuff
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Speaker 1: going on in Bachelor Nation and going on in your lives,
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to see each other mature and
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Speaker 1: grow and become less mature. Um, what would you have said?
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Speaker 1: Would this has been exciting for you or would you
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Speaker 1: been like that sounds like punishment? Oh my gosh, my
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Speaker 1: fan girl self would have been like, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: talk to Ben Higgins like he is just the ultimate
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Speaker 1: right because I mean, you're such a a figurehead in
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Speaker 1: the franchise, and like I always thought that you were
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Speaker 1: so much like cooler than me. So I would have
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Speaker 1: been super honor and I've been like mind blown, like
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna become like really good friends with Ben Higgins.
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Speaker 1: That's awesome. And then four years later, Yeah, okay, so
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Speaker 1: then I have a follow up question. But yeah, so
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Speaker 1: what I've thought about that I would have said I
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Speaker 1: see it like Ashley is uh, great personality who shares
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Speaker 1: her emotions on her sleeve. She would be fantastic for
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Speaker 1: a podcast. Um, I would have asked, what in the
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Speaker 1: world are we going to talk about? Now? You probably
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Speaker 1: would have been like, what's a podcast? Yeah, I'll be like,
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Speaker 1: I had no clue what this is going to be.
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Speaker 1: But um, I think. I mean, I remember, I've told
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Speaker 1: you this, and we've talked about it many times, Like
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Speaker 1: I was nervous to meet you when I met you
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Speaker 1: at that hotel in Hollywood, West Hollywood the first time. Weird.
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Speaker 1: I have no idea why I'm like the least intimidating
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Speaker 1: person in the entire world. Well maybe now, but back then, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: back then, it was different. Okay, so four years later,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I'm very thankful for this opportunity.
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Speaker 1: Not only get to spend time with you, but the
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Speaker 1: listeners get to meet the listeners. You know, up until COVID,
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Speaker 1: we were doing those in person podcasts that were so
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Speaker 1: much fun. Um, I get to keep up on your
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Speaker 1: life with Jared, your life with your family, your life
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Speaker 1: um in Rhode Island now and moving from l A.
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Speaker 1: Uh this and I've said it before, but like this
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Speaker 1: podcast has been a gift for so many reasons, Like
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Speaker 1: it allows me to do generous coffee for free, It
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Speaker 1: allows uh us to uh have other adventures and opportunities
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Speaker 1: come to us that maybe we wouldn't have without this podcast,
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Speaker 1: and then I get to do with you, and like,
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Speaker 1: in four years, I don't remember a time, even off air,
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Speaker 1: that we've had like an issue like this has like
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Speaker 1: been really great. That's true, it has been overall very great.
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Speaker 1: I love the platform that we have to discuss the
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Speaker 1: issues in Bachelor Nation, and like if we see something
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Speaker 1: and we feel like it's maybe not being interpreted by
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Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation with the audience, um as, we feel like
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Speaker 1: it probably went down in real life. I love being
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Speaker 1: able to talk about that and like kind of giving
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Speaker 1: contestants the benefit of the doubt because there's so many
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Speaker 1: times where yeah yeah sometimes because there's so many times
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Speaker 1: where like there's so much storyline that they don't have
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Speaker 1: time to show, and we can kind of figure out, um,
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Speaker 1: what possibly went down. And of course, you know, I
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Speaker 1: love the in depths because we get to know these
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Speaker 1: people so much better and like then you really do
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Speaker 1: get to see their whole character instead of the carriccture
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Speaker 1: that is you sometimes get to know on the show.
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Speaker 1: Do you still think I'm super cool? Yeah? Cool? That
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Speaker 1: makes me good. I still definitely look at you as
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Speaker 1: somebody who, uh is one of those people in your
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Speaker 1: life that aspires you to be a better human. Actually,
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Speaker 1: Jessica actually still think so cool, because sometimes I questioned
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Speaker 1: if she does. Hey, uh, we have a big podcast
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Speaker 1: coming up for you today. Yes, the giveaway is there.
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Speaker 1: We'll mention to get into the podcast. We have desert
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Speaker 1: Hartstock on the podcast. She is somebody who obviously was
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Speaker 1: passing off the roses at some point in life. She
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Speaker 1: always has a lot going on. She's always a great
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Speaker 1: interview and super exciting. But as Ashley mentioned at the
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Speaker 1: beginning of the podcast, this is engagement week, not that
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Speaker 1: we expected it for Bacheloration. We're going to break down
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Speaker 1: all the engagements, all the love, all the stories going on,
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Speaker 1: and all the hot headlines right here and almost from
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Speaker 1: his podcast. But before we do, let's take a break.
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Speaker 1: Is there anyone that we could have more fitting for
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Speaker 1: this engagement week of Bachelor Nation than Desiree Hardstock, a
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Speaker 1: wedding dress designer herself. Yes, yes, desire guys, welcome he
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Speaker 1: to the podcast. Thanks for having me favorite. She's just
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Speaker 1: like you, Chris, kind of like light up the room
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Speaker 1: when they walk in, don't they. I'll never forget when
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Speaker 1: I was on tour. I was in the middle of
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Speaker 1: nowhere on this tour of us and they brought me
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Speaker 1: a gift bag full of stuff from the area, and like,
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Speaker 1: I like that moment where you just you feel like
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Speaker 1: you are a part of something special, Like I don't know,
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Speaker 1: there's just special people. I'm pump to have her. Well,
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Speaker 1: thank you us. We're always thinking about others. But also
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Speaker 1: like you were on the bus for so long, We're like,
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Speaker 1: he needs snacks and a bottle of wine. Oh my gosh,
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Speaker 1: All right, well dead you have a book out? Yes,
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Speaker 1: I was coming out June second. Yes, I wrote a book.
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Speaker 1: I'm in the club with Then, Yeah, what inspired you
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Speaker 1: to write this book which is partial Bachelor tell all
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Speaker 1: so many years later? Yeah, you know it kind of is.
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Speaker 1: So I always wanted to write a book, regardless of
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Speaker 1: being on the show or not, but that obviously led
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Speaker 1: to some really incredible things in my life, and so
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Speaker 1: of course the Bachelor Bachelor is a part of my
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Speaker 1: journey and so I wanted to share all about my
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Speaker 1: life and really like the experiences I've gone through UM
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Speaker 1: and how honestly my faith has allowed me to continue
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Speaker 1: forward with hope through all it. And so I'm just excited.
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Speaker 1: I'm excited to finally get it all out there. It's
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Speaker 1: kind of nerve wracking too, to be like at this
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Speaker 1: point now, where you know, I spent a year writing
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Speaker 1: it and it's finally here. So it's going to be
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Speaker 1: interesting to see, um just a response, but also just
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Speaker 1: how it can maybe help people who are looking at
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Speaker 1: their lives right now and wondering what they're gonna do now,
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Speaker 1: you know, offers hope that feeling over the next few months.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, I had an incredible
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Speaker 1: mentor and author reach out to me the night before
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Speaker 1: my book got released, and I'm gonna tell you something
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Speaker 1: that people out there listening and like you are the
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Speaker 1: worst human ever, But it was the best thing ever
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Speaker 1: for me. He reached out to me, said, been, you're
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Speaker 1: about to launch something that's so special to you and
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Speaker 1: means so much to you, and you're gonna have so
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Speaker 1: much lead up in, so much anxiety and so much stress,
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Speaker 1: and so much like anxiousness about it, and you're gonna
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Speaker 1: be so disappointed in what it feels like that day
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Speaker 1: of release. But he says, you're not doing it for
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Speaker 1: the day of least. You're doing it because you had
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Speaker 1: a story you had to share. And I'm telling you
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Speaker 1: it was the best advice ever because like now it's
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Speaker 1: out there and like people will review it, people will
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Speaker 1: share stuff about it, but like you don't have the
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Speaker 1: intimate hold on it like you did, like right now,
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Speaker 1: it's still your baby, and so it's I'm just telling you,
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Speaker 1: it's a weird time, but it's such a special time.
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Speaker 1: It's it's so humbling, and I'm glad you. Yeah, no,
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Speaker 1: thank you for sharing that. That's actually really helpful because
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Speaker 1: it just hit me like last week where I was like, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm at this point now I don't want
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Speaker 1: I don't want people to comment about it, you know,
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Speaker 1: like negatively or whatever. But I'm also at a point
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Speaker 1: where I needed to come out like my life, my
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Speaker 1: story and also just not just as a woman, but
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Speaker 1: also just my life. I felt like I always either
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Speaker 1: my voice was hindered or I wasn't as confident in
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Speaker 1: sharing my voice, or sometimes it was dismissed, and so
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Speaker 1: this is also just a great moment to be like
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Speaker 1: I am here or this is my story, this is
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Speaker 1: my truth, and you know, really stand in that firmly
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Speaker 1: rather than backing away from it, which I often did.
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Speaker 1: So it's kind of a moment. Thanks. Would you say
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Speaker 1: that the book is what fifty fifty like kind of
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Speaker 1: like pre Bachelor, post Bachelor, in between Bachelor rette, like
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Speaker 1: you see the good things like a third Yeah, you know, um,
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Speaker 1: I would say, I mean it could be because a
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Speaker 1: lot of it does stem from the show, but it's
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Speaker 1: a lot of my past dating life as well. That
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Speaker 1: kind of was my dating patterns and how that actually
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Speaker 1: played a huge part in the show and how I
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Speaker 1: you know, made decisions or all of the crap you
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Speaker 1: know that happens on my season. It's really enlightening when
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Speaker 1: you know my past to really see what happened and how,
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Speaker 1: um how I overcame it. So can you can you
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Speaker 1: tease that a little bit for us, like what do
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Speaker 1: you think was the issue for you dating previous to
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Speaker 1: getting with Chris. Yeah, you know, it's a little mix
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Speaker 1: of who I would choose and maybe a little mix
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Speaker 1: of who I was but I definitely went after the
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Speaker 1: emotionally unavailable all the time. And it's just I'm an
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Speaker 1: EmPATH and I just felt like maybe I could, like
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Speaker 1: you know, fix them, and that's you quickly learned that
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Speaker 1: you can't, and um, yeah. And also it was a
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Speaker 1: little more passive, and I ended up with other guys
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Speaker 1: that were passive, and so it's just you're not going anywhere,
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Speaker 1: You're not getting anywhere. And I also would like keep
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Speaker 1: the relationships going when obviously it wasn't right. So who
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Speaker 1: should read my lesson? Like who who out there right now,
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Speaker 1: who's listening would benefit the most from your story? You know?
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Speaker 1: It's it actually hits so many different points that it
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Speaker 1: really is for every one in every season because I
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Speaker 1: also talk about motherhood, I talk about entrepreneurship, and I
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Speaker 1: talk about just all of that coming off of the show.
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Speaker 1: But I think the gist of like my testimony and
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Speaker 1: my story is really overcoming obstacles are struggles that pertain
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Speaker 1: to heartbreak or pertain to like the feeling of like
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Speaker 1: what now, you know, like what am I going to
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Speaker 1: do with my life now? Because I was super broke,
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Speaker 1: struggling financially and just like, oh my gosh, like what
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Speaker 1: do I do now? And then the show happened, so, um,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like a lot of times,
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Speaker 1: I think single ladies or anyone who's dealing with heartbreak
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Speaker 1: would definitely benefit from it to know that, you know,
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Speaker 1: the best is yet to come and they don't need
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Speaker 1: to dwell in their hurts or their pain, and so
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Speaker 1: I think that is really helpful. But honestly, it's for
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Speaker 1: anyone who looks around at their life right now and
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Speaker 1: is like losing hope. You know, I hate that when
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Speaker 1: we talked about your bachelortte experience, that you always have
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Speaker 1: to hear Brooks's name come up. You know, that really
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Speaker 1: hard for you and Chris just like now, you know
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Speaker 1: Chris it was a rock during all of that because
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Speaker 1: he just didn't care and he knew like from the yeah,
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Speaker 1: he knew from the minute we met. He's like, that's
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Speaker 1: my girl, So he didn't really care. But it's just frustrating.
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Speaker 1: And I talk a lot about that on the show
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Speaker 1: to how a lot of the like it was intense,
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Speaker 1: the backlash of people like literally saying, well, yeah, that
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Speaker 1: Chris was my second choice, that I settled that. I
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Speaker 1: mean even after we were married, people would still comment
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Speaker 1: and it's just mind blowing the perspective people have, like
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Speaker 1: we're still human beings. We you know, like we're not
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Speaker 1: just a character on a show that they can continue
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Speaker 1: to blast when we're we're so past it, so past it.
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Speaker 1: I was past it the moment I said he left.
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Speaker 1: You know. It's like, it's just an interesting you guys
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Speaker 1: have been on the show. It's an interesting world you're
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Speaker 1: in because the show did make it seem so much
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Speaker 1: so that like Brooks was your first place and like
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Speaker 1: Chris was your runner up. Do you explain what was
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Speaker 1: really going on in your head, your heart and behind
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Speaker 1: the scenes in the book? Oh yeah, absolutely, I go
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Speaker 1: into detail about that. So it's kind of nice to
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Speaker 1: finally put that straight to you know. But but it
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Speaker 1: stems from even it all just stems from my past,
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Speaker 1: and it's a really I don't know, it was very
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Speaker 1: enlightening and everything that happened had to happen for me
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Speaker 1: to be able to be in the place that I'm
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Speaker 1: at now with Chris. The Uh, we're in a season
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Speaker 1: where most people would probably say it's disorienting, that's there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of changes and especially being stuck inside for
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Speaker 1: the last you know, year or so. And Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: you talked about the criticism, you talked about the public opinion,
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Speaker 1: You talked about everybody having opinion about what you're doing
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Speaker 1: when you write this book. And I know for me
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Speaker 1: there was it was opening consistently when I was writing,
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Speaker 1: opening up wounds that had not yet healed, and then
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Speaker 1: I kind of had forgotten, but I need to write
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Speaker 1: about because I felt like they were important for the
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Speaker 1: overall story. Okay, so you take to those two things together.
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Speaker 1: If for the people out there listening, what have you
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Speaker 1: learned in the last few years with you and Cris
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Speaker 1: being together, with the opinions coming down from the public
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Speaker 1: that kind of aren't true, but they're consistently being told
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Speaker 1: to you. And also now that you write a book
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Speaker 1: and you open up these wounds again, what have you
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Speaker 1: what have you learned and what would you share? You know,
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Speaker 1: throughout the throughout my life and honestly through the book. Um,
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Speaker 1: through each step of over like under, sorry, through each
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Speaker 1: step of discovering, like your wounds are, discovering certain things
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Speaker 1: that you need to work on. I realized I really
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Speaker 1: need to work I found my identity in Christ, and
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Speaker 1: so I continue to focus on who I was and
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Speaker 1: who God created me to be, rather than who these
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Speaker 1: people say I am. So I've gotten to a point
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Speaker 1: after was kind of hard too with everyone's opinions, but um,
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Speaker 1: I kind of just gave up. I lost that fear
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Speaker 1: of what people would think. And so with each step
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Speaker 1: writing the book, I think it also helped me to
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Speaker 1: like get past that and be like, I don't like
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Speaker 1: who I am is not who they say I am.
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Speaker 1: I am who God says I am, And so that
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Speaker 1: actually really helped me stay confident honestly throughout everything. And
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Speaker 1: that's actually why I'm at a point too with the
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Speaker 1: book coming out. I think I'm at a much better
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Speaker 1: place to be able to handle criticism. Such an important
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Speaker 1: place to get My body once told me people have asked,
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Speaker 1: But my my friend just a few months ago told
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Speaker 1: me to write down who you know you are in
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Speaker 1: the face of God and then repeat that your to
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Speaker 1: your stuff every morning. And I'd say, if people out
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Speaker 1: there listening, like, hey, I don't have a faith that
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Speaker 1: I can't relate with this great Um, that's that's your
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Speaker 1: your deal. But maybe just write down who you know
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Speaker 1: you are at your healthiest moments and repeat that to
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Speaker 1: yourself every morning. Um, your book's gonna be awesome. Uh,
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Speaker 1: it's it's super exciting again. Um, it comes out here June.
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Speaker 1: It's right second called The Road to Roses. Um, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna get all the details. It is a story worth hearing,
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Speaker 1: So please go pick it up wherever I'm assuming it's whoever. Yeah, okay, Well, Um,
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Speaker 1: are you down to stick with us for just a
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Speaker 1: second here? Yes? Absolutely, and uh and talk to us
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Speaker 1: about all the love going on in Bachelor Nation right now. Yes,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get me up to speed. I'm
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Speaker 1: a little bit behind on everyone that's been engaged. We
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Speaker 1: can do that. We're here, Yeah, we're here right now
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Speaker 1: to do well. Hey, let's take a break and get
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Speaker 1: a water break real quick, Ashley. We come back. We're
19:50
Speaker 1: to talk about engagements and we're gonna educate everybody out
19:54
Speaker 1: there if they haven't quite heard about all the love
19:56
Speaker 1: happening in bascination. All right, Well, Jez you said that
20:10
Speaker 1: we need to catch you up. Well you obviously weren't
20:12
Speaker 1: on the Graham last night or this morning. Oh my gosh,
20:14
Speaker 1: it was like crazy. It was one after the after
20:17
Speaker 1: the other. So obviously, Caitlin and Jason kicked off engagement
20:22
Speaker 1: Week last week with the most amazing proposal, Like it
20:26
Speaker 1: was so much fun, right, So Jason proposed to Caitlin
20:31
Speaker 1: while recording what he says is a fake was a
20:34
Speaker 1: fake podcast, but then they released it, so it's kind
20:36
Speaker 1: of a real podcast. But it was also that they
20:39
Speaker 1: would have that moment on record, and I loved it
20:44
Speaker 1: and it was meaningful in the way that they first
20:48
Speaker 1: met while recording her podcast. And then fast forward, Oh
20:51
Speaker 1: my gosh, has it been They've been together for two
20:53
Speaker 1: and a half years. Yeah, so fast for two and
20:56
Speaker 1: a half years. And then he proposed on the podcas
21:00
Speaker 1: Cast And it was crazy because on the original podcast
21:04
Speaker 1: that he was on I think October two, eighteen, she asked, like,
21:08
Speaker 1: what are you looking for in a future spouse? And like,
21:11
Speaker 1: little did he know that, like one answering that question,
21:15
Speaker 1: he was in front of his future spouse. That's awesome.
21:19
Speaker 1: I love them. They're so cute. They're so freaking cute.
21:25
Speaker 1: I just listened to the podcast because she put it
21:27
Speaker 1: out yesterday I think Sunday um and there's like a
21:32
Speaker 1: whole it's like called like forty five minutes, and the
21:35
Speaker 1: suspense builds and builds until the moment that he goes, Caitlin,
21:38
Speaker 1: this isn't a real podcast, and she goes, what do
21:40
Speaker 1: you mean, Oh my god, you haven't hit record, and
21:43
Speaker 1: then he starts going into the proposal and it's just
21:46
Speaker 1: so sweet. He's crying, his voice is cracking, and then
21:51
Speaker 1: it changes from like emotion to laughter and I was
21:55
Speaker 1: truly like laughing out loud because when she sees the ring.
21:59
Speaker 1: I know we saw a little teaser of it on Instagram,
22:02
Speaker 1: but she can't stop cursing and like shrieking. It's truly hilarious.
22:08
Speaker 1: It's the most Caitlin thing ever. I love their dichotomy
22:11
Speaker 1: because Jason's like a little bit more buttoned up and
22:13
Speaker 1: and Caitlin is totally out there, and uh, they're wonderful.
22:17
Speaker 1: I feel like all Bachelor Nation has been waiting and
22:19
Speaker 1: waiting for this, right. I think that some of us
22:21
Speaker 1: were kind of suspecting this is going to happen right
22:23
Speaker 1: after the Dancing with the Stars win, because we were like, man,
22:26
Speaker 1: could this year get any better for Caitlin, And then
22:28
Speaker 1: she became like the co host for the Bachelorette, and
22:31
Speaker 1: it's just gotten better and better, and he said he
22:34
Speaker 1: thought about doing it in combo when she saw her
22:36
Speaker 1: mom for the first time in a year and a half.
22:40
Speaker 1: But then I thought, you know, she really wanted something intimate.
22:45
Speaker 1: And they said that like they've never felt like they
22:48
Speaker 1: looked at each other's eyes deeper than they did this period.
22:52
Speaker 1: Little recap. Thanks for that recap. Wow, that was good.
22:58
Speaker 1: So view, Uh, what wedding dress if you could picture,
23:04
Speaker 1: would Caitlin be in at their wedding? Oh, that's a
23:08
Speaker 1: good one. She's like sexy but sassy, so it needs to,
23:12
Speaker 1: you know, be a little like revealing up top of
23:15
Speaker 1: maybe like a little fun on the skirt with a slid.
23:18
Speaker 1: I think I see that, Okay, alright, Yeah, I feel
23:22
Speaker 1: like she's not a puffy girl. I feel like if
23:24
Speaker 1: hers like a little more sleek slinky. Yeah, she's super petite,
23:29
Speaker 1: so I feel like a big dress with kind of
23:31
Speaker 1: swallower up, but she needs to show it off. I
23:35
Speaker 1: don't know, or she'll do a switch. She'll do like
23:38
Speaker 1: a fuller dress for the ceremony and then like sex
23:41
Speaker 1: it up for the reception. What kind of wedding you did?
23:48
Speaker 1: You and Ben? What do you imagine Caitlin's wedding to
23:51
Speaker 1: be like, because she and I talked about it like
23:53
Speaker 1: a year or so ago. She's like, we just might
23:55
Speaker 1: like a lope one day, Like they're the kind of
23:57
Speaker 1: couple you know, you your thirties, you just kind of
23:59
Speaker 1: know where your features head that they knew that they
24:01
Speaker 1: were going to be together forever um and she mentioned
24:05
Speaker 1: Italy small weddings something like that. I still can see that.
24:10
Speaker 1: I can I can see that. I can see Jason
24:13
Speaker 1: also wanting like a big traditional wedding as well. What
24:16
Speaker 1: do you guys think, Yeah, isn't he East Coast? He's
24:19
Speaker 1: super East Coast buffle, Yeah, East. I kind of picture that.
24:23
Speaker 1: I feel like he would probably want a big wedding
24:25
Speaker 1: with all their friends, but it would be so fun.
24:27
Speaker 1: I see a wine in tequila bar. That's about all
24:30
Speaker 1: I see in the picture. Like I couldn guarantee you
24:32
Speaker 1: that will happen um at their wedding. Oh yes, spades
24:36
Speaker 1: and sparrows. You know there's gonna be a whole bar
24:38
Speaker 1: for just her wine. And then it's so funny. In
24:41
Speaker 1: the during their engagement, she was wearing a tank top
24:45
Speaker 1: that says tequila for breakfast, and she says. She goes,
24:48
Speaker 1: oh my god, I cannot believe I'm wearing a shirt
24:50
Speaker 1: that says tequila for breakfast at my engagement. That's hilarious.
24:55
Speaker 1: But it's so her, it's so them, Like it's so hitting.
24:58
Speaker 1: You want to know, all right, Actually, what's the next
25:01
Speaker 1: couple to get engaged? Sarah Harron and her boyfriend Dylan.
25:06
Speaker 1: They've been together for over four years. I chatted with
25:09
Speaker 1: her this morning and she said that actually she had
25:12
Speaker 1: designed her ring. They've been talking about engagement for about
25:15
Speaker 1: six months and she designed her ring. So it wasn't
25:19
Speaker 1: a real surprise, but it was you know, she didn't
25:23
Speaker 1: know what it was going to happen. And she said,
25:25
Speaker 1: that's so nervous leading into it that she could tell
25:29
Speaker 1: she was like, oh my god, this is gonna happen
25:31
Speaker 1: because like he was all like shaking into myry mouth.
25:34
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for that one because I thought that
25:36
Speaker 1: would be coming pretty soon. So I'm so happy for her.
25:39
Speaker 1: She looks so happy. Okay, so what wedding dress would
25:44
Speaker 1: she be in? Oh? That one's good. I mean they're
25:49
Speaker 1: so adventurous, Like I feel like their wedding will be
25:51
Speaker 1: like on top of a mountain, so she can't. She
25:55
Speaker 1: also can't be in anything too big. Um. I mean,
25:58
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe they'll are low yeah, like climb up,
26:02
Speaker 1: do a hike, and I have a beautiful scenery, so
26:06
Speaker 1: nothing too too crazy. I feel like I can see
26:11
Speaker 1: her in like a strap less scown. That's what I
26:14
Speaker 1: was gonna say. Yeah, I was gonna say strap less. Um,
26:19
Speaker 1: Like I would say pretty like close a forms to
26:23
Speaker 1: the body until like the waste, and then I'd say
26:27
Speaker 1: it comes out. It flows out, but not in like
26:30
Speaker 1: a poofy princess sort of way, like minded, but more
26:33
Speaker 1: kind of like my reception dress where it's like sleek
26:37
Speaker 1: and more of a modern Um. Yeah, I totally a
26:41
Speaker 1: line out. Yeah, I see that same same here. But
26:47
Speaker 1: it's interesting now with both couples, and maybe I'm behind
26:50
Speaker 1: the times. You guys gotta tell me. Um that we've
26:52
Speaker 1: mentioned like a looping, so like you know, maybe five
26:55
Speaker 1: years ago, I feel like maybe even two years ago,
26:58
Speaker 1: like we said eloping. Everything's like, oh really you like
27:00
Speaker 1: that feels like you should have wedding now after the pandemic.
27:03
Speaker 1: It feels like a loping is kind of like the
27:05
Speaker 1: not the cool thing to do. But like it's making
27:06
Speaker 1: a lot of sense for a lot of couples. Yeah,
27:09
Speaker 1: it totally makes sense. I mean it's just easy and
27:12
Speaker 1: you you're able to kind of have a more intimate ceremony.
27:15
Speaker 1: So I know a lot of couples to do the lopement,
27:17
Speaker 1: but then they have a big party for everyone to
27:20
Speaker 1: like also celebrate. Um. I think it depends you on
27:23
Speaker 1: the just personality. Like I think age is a difference.
27:26
Speaker 1: The older you get, the like less totally interested you
27:32
Speaker 1: are for like a huge, huge, huge, huge wedding or
27:36
Speaker 1: a lot of times older couples are paying for it themselves,
27:39
Speaker 1: so they're not gonna opt for like spending money on
27:42
Speaker 1: a wedding when they want to like put a deposit
27:44
Speaker 1: down on a house. You know, it's like give her take, Okay,
27:48
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well it's interesting. Actually we've had we
27:51
Speaker 1: have four couples this week. They got engaged. We've talked
27:54
Speaker 1: about two of them. Who are the other two that
27:56
Speaker 1: we have? Hailey Ferguson and she got in gay to
28:01
Speaker 1: her hockey boyfriend. His name is how do you say it?
28:05
Speaker 1: Uh ula? Uh? He is he um. He's a professional
28:10
Speaker 1: hockey player. He's twenty nine. He proposed to her on Thursday,
28:14
Speaker 1: May thirteen. Her ring is also just out of this
28:17
Speaker 1: world stunning and huge, and uh, it looks like she's
28:22
Speaker 1: hinting at a summer two weddings, so they already talked
28:28
Speaker 1: about it. I'll stalked it to Haley and she said
28:32
Speaker 1: that she was. She was surprised at when it happened.
28:36
Speaker 1: He apparently just got back to America because he plays
28:39
Speaker 1: overseas and it was like the first couple of days
28:43
Speaker 1: that he was here. She was expecting it to happen
28:46
Speaker 1: maybe sometime this summer, but definitely not at this point.
28:49
Speaker 1: And she said, I was wearing white just by coincidence.
28:54
Speaker 1: That's amazing deep down she knew, addressed Haley Ferguson. Oh, Um,
29:03
Speaker 1: I feel like both Haley and what's her sister also engaged,
29:08
Speaker 1: and I love that they get to share this engagement
29:10
Speaker 1: period of their lives together. That's so cute, so cute.
29:14
Speaker 1: They love sharing things together and this is like obviously
29:16
Speaker 1: on things you can. Yeah, and at least they're not
29:19
Speaker 1: sharing the man. That'd be weird. Oh, both of those
29:24
Speaker 1: girls are so beautiful. I said. They definitely are like
29:27
Speaker 1: a little sexier, so I would do a deep plunging
29:30
Speaker 1: v with like illusion lace and like they definitely I
29:35
Speaker 1: see a fuller a fuller skirt. Same. Yeah, you must
29:41
Speaker 1: do this for a living or something. You're really good.
29:46
Speaker 1: This is my favorite thing. I love dressing people. And
29:48
Speaker 1: we're going to do it virtually. Maybe they're gonna listen
29:50
Speaker 1: and be like, you know what, this is free advice.
29:53
Speaker 1: I need to follow it. Ashley. Final person from Bastination
29:56
Speaker 1: to get engaged this week. So it's Sydney Nicole High.
30:02
Speaker 1: We know her from Peter Season and I've been I
30:05
Speaker 1: love I think she's so pretty and I've been following
30:08
Speaker 1: her and her boyfriend's relationship over the past year. He's
30:11
Speaker 1: an NFL player. His name is Fred Warner. He plays
30:15
Speaker 1: for the forty niners, and they are so cute together.
30:20
Speaker 1: And he posted a picture yesterday that said when you
30:24
Speaker 1: know you know of him down on one knee, and
30:26
Speaker 1: then she she posted the day and she says it's
30:31
Speaker 1: you and me and it's so cute and guess what
30:34
Speaker 1: She's holding a red rose, a single red rose in
30:37
Speaker 1: her hand, and then they're just so sweet. That's sweet.
30:41
Speaker 1: I'm looking this up right now. I I am super
30:44
Speaker 1: pumped about this. One because I actually had looked at
30:47
Speaker 1: their um their story a few weeks ago, and this
30:51
Speaker 1: this is super cool, I know, I guess. So, so
30:55
Speaker 1: she's saving a spot for Paradise because hey, she would
30:58
Speaker 1: have been super sought after there, and I'm sure the
31:02
Speaker 1: other girls are glad that she won't be there for
31:04
Speaker 1: competent they're so cute. Okay, what kind of wedding dress
31:11
Speaker 1: do you see? Yees, Sydney. Oh gosh, it needs to
31:15
Speaker 1: be like definitely like a finn flare, so super curve
31:22
Speaker 1: hugging and you know, definitely a little probably illusion I
31:27
Speaker 1: imagine illusion lace with a little beating. What's illusion lace?
31:31
Speaker 1: So illusion lace is like it's been trendy for probably
31:35
Speaker 1: probably a good decade now, but it's mesh with lace
31:39
Speaker 1: on top without it being lined, and so it's very
31:44
Speaker 1: like the laces strategically placed so you don't you know,
31:47
Speaker 1: have a nip slip or anything, but it just looks
31:51
Speaker 1: like laces literally applicate on your body. Oh that's cool. Yeah, Okay,
31:58
Speaker 1: Well I guess to round about this dress hypothesis session,
32:03
Speaker 1: what kind of dress is Ben's fiance just gonna wear
32:07
Speaker 1: their November wedding? I don't know jess is so adorable.
32:11
Speaker 1: I love her so much. Um same, oh good? I
32:18
Speaker 1: pictured her in lace. I don't know why, me too, Yeah,
32:22
Speaker 1: I pictured her in lace, A line, A line, A line.
32:25
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. I know that she's very She picked
32:27
Speaker 1: out her wedding dress. Um, I know that she's so
32:32
Speaker 1: excited about it that she made I think she asked
32:36
Speaker 1: her mom and my mom when they left, like, hey,
32:39
Speaker 1: how inappropriate is it for me to wear my wedding
32:42
Speaker 1: dress after the wedding? And they're like, Jessica, we can't
32:47
Speaker 1: come Like Ben can't come home and find you like
32:48
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch in the weddings or he can
32:51
Speaker 1: if that's what you're he can do you guys? Do
32:54
Speaker 1: you both do that? Do you ever put it back on?
32:57
Speaker 1: Oh my goshn is it weird that I will have
33:02
Speaker 1: a desire to put it on. It's like so sacred
33:04
Speaker 1: to the day. Yeah, did you put yours in? Like?
33:07
Speaker 1: Did you preserve yours? It's still sitting on my mom
33:10
Speaker 1: like in the guests room bed, still like big sufy
33:13
Speaker 1: on the bed. Did you have I had two dresses?
33:17
Speaker 1: You know she was gonna have to you too too? Yeah,
33:20
Speaker 1: I too, I I don't see jus having to. I
33:22
Speaker 1: feel like when she loves something, she'll wear it right then,
33:25
Speaker 1: like she'll wear it the whole day. That was my thought.
33:29
Speaker 1: I never wanted to dresses. I was like, I want
33:31
Speaker 1: to love my first one so much that I never
33:33
Speaker 1: want to take the other one off. Um, But that's
33:36
Speaker 1: just not how it played out. And I was actually
33:38
Speaker 1: super grateful because we I walked into the first dance
33:42
Speaker 1: at all the dances and stuff in my you know,
33:44
Speaker 1: the church gown, and then I was like, I cannot
33:49
Speaker 1: walk around this ballroom in this ball gown because everybody
33:54
Speaker 1: stepping on it. All the chairs are in the way.
33:57
Speaker 1: So I was super grateful to be able to change.
33:59
Speaker 1: And we changed right before the cake cutting, so like
34:02
Speaker 1: all the dancing, all like the fun dancing and stuff,
34:04
Speaker 1: was in a much lighter dress that I didn't have
34:07
Speaker 1: to like walk around like Queen Elizabeth in not know
34:11
Speaker 1: I had like an old queen. I had a friend too.
34:15
Speaker 1: We like mid reception, we had to like unbutton her
34:18
Speaker 1: and she had to like just breathe because it was
34:21
Speaker 1: a big gown that you know, it's heavy, those things
34:24
Speaker 1: are heavy. Oh my dress must have been like thirty
34:26
Speaker 1: and tight and tight. Yeah, you know you want to
34:29
Speaker 1: squeeze it all in to like yeah, not breathing. Well,
34:32
Speaker 1: this is a really special time for bat foun Nation.
34:34
Speaker 1: We couldn't have thought of a better person to come
34:36
Speaker 1: down and break down love with us. Heartstock now one
34:42
Speaker 1: last time. Yes, your book The Road to Roses June
34:50
Speaker 1: out on shelves, please go pick it up. Thank you
34:52
Speaker 1: for joining us today. This is something so special for us.
34:55
Speaker 1: And thank you for talking to us about wedding dresses.
34:57
Speaker 1: That was really fun for me. Good. It's always great
35:02
Speaker 1: to have Desiree on the podcast. But we're gonna transition
35:04
Speaker 1: out a more headlines. Uh, no, more engagements so far
35:08
Speaker 1: this week. We'll talk about him next week. If there is,
35:11
Speaker 1: who else is on the lineup? Anyone? I don't even
35:14
Speaker 1: know now, I don't know Sydney, you know what, Sydney
35:17
Speaker 1: lat Waco. I think it has one come in. You
35:22
Speaker 1: know she's still with her boyfriend. I hope so. Um
35:25
Speaker 1: if not, let me do a quick check. Yeah, not
35:29
Speaker 1: so very awkward, Um as you check up. Yeah, you know,
35:33
Speaker 1: there are some some very happy couples in Bachelor Nation.
35:36
Speaker 1: It's always fun to talk about their love stories. To
35:38
Speaker 1: see it's fun to see how these these love stories
35:40
Speaker 1: progress and to see who they end up with. Um Ashley,
35:43
Speaker 1: any update, Is Sydney still with her boyfriend? Yes, they're
35:47
Speaker 1: still together. I would say that could be the next
35:50
Speaker 1: to let's look for it. Well, hey, uh. In addition
35:52
Speaker 1: to that, we have some paradise coming up here soon,
35:55
Speaker 1: so maybe we'll get someone paradise that we can talk about.
35:57
Speaker 1: But anyways, enough of the engagement. We're going to talk
36:00
Speaker 1: about some headlines. And here's the first. The quote is
36:03
Speaker 1: I remember feeling so guilty. Colton Underwood recalls fear of
36:08
Speaker 1: being outed while on the Bachelorette. This according to USA Today,
36:12
Speaker 1: You guys, we got some tea from this Variety air
36:16
Speaker 1: view that came out this like like wow, So he
36:20
Speaker 1: was afraid while being on Becca Koufren's season of The
36:24
Speaker 1: Bachelorette that he was gonna get outed by one of
36:25
Speaker 1: the other guys, or like just by like by somebody
36:29
Speaker 1: in general, not like one of the guys that was
36:30
Speaker 1: there in the house, but like he was afraid during
36:33
Speaker 1: filming that it was going to come out that he
36:37
Speaker 1: had been on the gay dating app Grinder. And he said,
36:42
Speaker 1: I remember feeling so guilty, Like, what the hell am
36:45
Speaker 1: I doing? Um, it was the first time I'm letting
36:47
Speaker 1: myself even go there. He said, I need to be
36:51
Speaker 1: on the Bachelorette because I need to be straight. Like
36:55
Speaker 1: he just thought that like being on the Bachelorte would
36:57
Speaker 1: lead him to more of a straight life and that
36:59
Speaker 1: hopefully he would get a girlfriend out of it. But
37:02
Speaker 1: it's just it's crazy to think that he was on
37:05
Speaker 1: Grinder and um, he said he did have sexual encounters
37:12
Speaker 1: with men. He said, well, he really was a virgin
37:14
Speaker 1: on the show. It didn't mean that he didn't have
37:16
Speaker 1: like hookups to some capacity with men beforehand. And he
37:21
Speaker 1: was thinking, I know, I know, I thought when he
37:25
Speaker 1: first came out a month ago he said that you
37:27
Speaker 1: never have a sexual encounter. I'm confused now because according
37:34
Speaker 1: to this variety, it says quotes like I'm reading the quote.
37:37
Speaker 1: It says, well, this is okay, so it's not a
37:41
Speaker 1: quote from him, but it says that Underwood reveals through
37:47
Speaker 1: the show he was highlight It was highlighted that he
37:50
Speaker 1: was a virgin, and he was he did have sexual
37:55
Speaker 1: encounters with men he met on the dating app Grinder,
37:59
Speaker 1: which made aid which left him anxious, then one might
38:04
Speaker 1: find out and out him to a tabloid. Wait, can
38:09
Speaker 1: team behind the scenes here, can we do some research
38:12
Speaker 1: and go back to the quote when he first came out,
38:14
Speaker 1: because this, I mean this does change stuff. No, I
38:18
Speaker 1: mean still like super happy for quote that he's able
38:21
Speaker 1: to live his true self now. But if so, it
38:23
Speaker 1: does bring up the question like if we did an
38:25
Speaker 1: interview with him, like how did you choose to go
38:27
Speaker 1: and be the Bachelor if you would like already had
38:31
Speaker 1: relationships with men before it, because the original statement I
38:35
Speaker 1: thought and tell me if I'm crazy, um, that he hadn't. Well,
38:39
Speaker 1: our team is telling us now. He said he didn't
38:42
Speaker 1: have an emotional connection. That was his quote, So I
38:45
Speaker 1: guess you cannot have an emotional connection but still have
38:48
Speaker 1: a physical connection. So that makes more sense, more sense.
38:52
Speaker 1: But um, interesting for sure. And it is surprising in
38:57
Speaker 1: today's world with how much information the sleuthers get, especially
39:01
Speaker 1: with when he went on the show. Wasn't it long
39:02
Speaker 1: ago that they didn't find this out? Because they find everything.
39:06
Speaker 1: But I'm freaking mind boggled. So Colton had a grinder
39:12
Speaker 1: profile before being on The bachelorrect did he use a
39:16
Speaker 1: different picture? Did he have a picture up there, because
39:20
Speaker 1: how did that not get out? The Reddit people find
39:22
Speaker 1: out everything, the message boards find out all the crazy stuff,
39:26
Speaker 1: and they put everything together. The fact that there was
39:29
Speaker 1: not one person that he had had some sort of
39:32
Speaker 1: physical contact with come out. I mean, he really is
39:36
Speaker 1: lucky in the sense that, like that was a fear
39:39
Speaker 1: of his and it didn't come true. Um, he continues.
39:42
Speaker 1: More tea that we get from this Variety article is that,
39:48
Speaker 1: um he He says that he was blackmailed into coming out.
39:55
Speaker 1: So he was at a a spa. He was visiting
40:00
Speaker 1: a spa for gay men. They're known for catering to
40:03
Speaker 1: click gay clientele. And the anonymous sender he got an
40:08
Speaker 1: email from and they claimed to have nude photos of
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Speaker 1: him from his visit there and said that they were
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Speaker 1: going to leak it to the press. He said, unsure
40:19
Speaker 1: of what to do, he forwarded this email to his
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Speaker 1: publicist and it was the first time him emailing the publicist.
40:27
Speaker 1: Was the first time he'd ever come out to anybody
40:30
Speaker 1: in the world. But he said that he was able
40:32
Speaker 1: to trust that his publicist was like not going to
40:34
Speaker 1: do anything that would hurt him, and uh, that was
40:41
Speaker 1: what started the process of him having to come out
40:45
Speaker 1: to the public, and they also go on to say
40:47
Speaker 1: that will watch him come out to his parents on
40:53
Speaker 1: the Netflix reality show. This is uh, I mean there's
40:58
Speaker 1: a lot going on here, right, I mean, it's been
41:00
Speaker 1: a it's had been a big year for him for
41:02
Speaker 1: multiple reasons, big and you know, but I mean, this
41:06
Speaker 1: is all interesting, and uh, I'm just surprised. I'm shocked
41:11
Speaker 1: that there was photos taken at this place. I mean
41:14
Speaker 1: that just seems illegal, like right, like and I mean
41:17
Speaker 1: even if they blackmailed, that's it has to be illegal
41:20
Speaker 1: at some level. It makes it seem there's a possibility
41:24
Speaker 1: that the photos don't even exist, but that somebody saw
41:29
Speaker 1: him at the gay Spa and then you know, pretended
41:32
Speaker 1: as if they had photos just to like kind of
41:35
Speaker 1: be like, hey, I know you're gay and I'm going
41:37
Speaker 1: to go to the press with it, because I mean,
41:41
Speaker 1: the photos didn't they never surfaced, so there's a possibility
41:46
Speaker 1: that they don't exist. But like, how crazy is this
41:48
Speaker 1: seems like so much different than the experience with men
41:53
Speaker 1: that we were gathering from Pulton's interviews last month, because
41:57
Speaker 1: this sounds as if like he has known he was gay.
42:01
Speaker 1: You know, because he was kind of acting on it,
42:05
Speaker 1: and in the interviews with Robin Roberts a kind of
42:07
Speaker 1: made it seemed like he was keeping all this in
42:11
Speaker 1: and he was just about to start exploring so many
42:15
Speaker 1: questions because then he was, you know, with Cassie for
42:18
Speaker 1: how long after this. Um, It's like, you know, it's
42:21
Speaker 1: not like he left the show, so so much going
42:23
Speaker 1: on here. Stories are continuing to unfold. UM, just a
42:29
Speaker 1: lot to consume. Well, anyways, hey, let's move on then.
42:32
Speaker 1: UM to one of your favorite people in the world,
42:34
Speaker 1: Jade Roper. Her quote is this, and it's it's I'm
42:38
Speaker 1: sure you know a lot about this as one of
42:40
Speaker 1: her closest friends. But her quote is she thought she
42:42
Speaker 1: was going to die before experiencing postpartum PTSD Disaccording to
42:47
Speaker 1: e she's referring to the fact that she went into
42:51
Speaker 1: labor in the closet. I mean seriously, she said, when
42:57
Speaker 1: I was giving birth, I had such a precipitous labor
43:02
Speaker 1: that I thought something wrong was happening. I thought I
43:05
Speaker 1: was going to die. I thought I was going to die,
43:09
Speaker 1: and so after that experience, I would have flashbacks that
43:13
Speaker 1: were not safe, she says. She said that she like
43:17
Speaker 1: kind of had this breakdown to the Tanner and then
43:23
Speaker 1: she went on to treat to seek treatment through hypnotherapy
43:28
Speaker 1: because it was super scarring on her. So I know
43:32
Speaker 1: we've talked about this here on the podcast, but what
43:34
Speaker 1: happened was that her water broke and then she thought, okay, well,
43:38
Speaker 1: like with Emmy, I know, it was a fast birth
43:40
Speaker 1: for her first especially, it was like seven or eight
43:43
Speaker 1: hours from her water breaking. So she was like, okay,
43:46
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a quick bath and then we'll
43:49
Speaker 1: head over to the birthing center. And once she took
43:53
Speaker 1: that quick bath, she got up to get her clothes
43:56
Speaker 1: in her closet and all of a sudden, she just
44:00
Speaker 1: would not move. Was totally debilitated. So there was within
44:03
Speaker 1: an hour of her water breaking that the head that
44:08
Speaker 1: Brooks's head was out was crowning. So it was so
44:14
Speaker 1: traumatic and so painful. Um and she just, you know,
44:20
Speaker 1: it was not like what she ideally wanted to like,
44:23
Speaker 1: it was not like the chaos and it was like, yeah,
44:27
Speaker 1: I think chaos is a good order. It was just
44:28
Speaker 1: not the kind of environment that she wanted to bring
44:32
Speaker 1: a baby into. And she said that when Brooks, you know,
44:37
Speaker 1: it was you know out and a baby, you know,
44:40
Speaker 1: like a baby, like feeding, you know, he was just
44:43
Speaker 1: a baby. She said that she felt like he didn't
44:47
Speaker 1: want me. That was the hardest part of it all.
44:50
Speaker 1: I felt like I would look at him and feel
44:52
Speaker 1: so disconnected and he didn't know I was his mom
44:56
Speaker 1: or he didn't want me to be his mom. So
44:58
Speaker 1: like there was this un imedient bonding thing that she
45:01
Speaker 1: didn't feel like Brooks that she did feel with Emmy,
45:04
Speaker 1: and she did, she thought. She thinks she still believes
45:07
Speaker 1: that a lot of that has to do with just
45:09
Speaker 1: how he came into this world. Uh So, yeah, it
45:13
Speaker 1: took some took some therapy, and she definitely had postpartum
45:18
Speaker 1: with Brooks, and um, it was definitely a whole different
45:22
Speaker 1: journey than it was with Emmy and with read Catherine
45:26
Speaker 1: Lowe hopes Chris Harrison returns as the Bachelor host. Her
45:31
Speaker 1: quote is he's a good base this according to us, Yeah,
45:34
Speaker 1: he says, She says, I want to see him come back.
45:38
Speaker 1: I think he will. I hope he does, because I
45:40
Speaker 1: know so many Bachelor fans out there rely on him
45:43
Speaker 1: to be the voice of the Bachelor. Said, Chris is
45:45
Speaker 1: a good bass that everyone could kind of rely on,
45:49
Speaker 1: she says. If we're giving him the time um that
45:53
Speaker 1: he's asking for to reflect on certain things, I think
45:56
Speaker 1: it's only fair that we kind of say, Okay, you
45:58
Speaker 1: did your work. Thank for doing your work, she said.
46:02
Speaker 1: And I think we should respect his choices. I mean,
46:03
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't want to return. I don't know. He
46:06
Speaker 1: might be on two different things, but bottom line, Catherine
46:10
Speaker 1: is hoping to see Chris comeback. We haven't heard a
46:12
Speaker 1: lot from Chris or about the situation a long time.
46:15
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta dig into that a little bit.
46:17
Speaker 1: It's been kind of no but speaking of bachelor engagements,
46:19
Speaker 1: I mean I was super kid like. The most headline
46:22
Speaker 1: e thing I think that has come out about Chris
46:24
Speaker 1: since all this one down in February is that picture
46:28
Speaker 1: that he posted of Lauren a couple of weeks ago,
46:30
Speaker 1: and I thought that they got married, but they did
46:33
Speaker 1: not know. They didn't big old tease. Well, actually, this
46:36
Speaker 1: is another episode of the Almost Famous podcast. It's been
46:39
Speaker 1: a really great being with you again, Ashley. Before we go,
46:44
Speaker 1: it's almost there. Four year in aniversary. We talked about
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Speaker 1: Super pumped for this again. UM, thank you to the
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