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Speaker 1: What Sunds out about the last couple of days in
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Speaker 1: but expectations for Ben trel Miller and the opportunity has
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Speaker 1: ahead of them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's got he's got a great opportunity
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Speaker 2: ahead of him. You know, the guy's in there all competing.
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Speaker 2: But he's had a good first two days, man. I
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Speaker 2: mean he showed up, showed up today, made some plays
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Speaker 2: again today and it's important to Ventro. You know, he
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Speaker 2: loves football and he's got a lot of great leadership
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Speaker 2: qualities too. The thing that he really brings to our
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Speaker 2: team and he did last year, I'm sorry and in
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Speaker 2: the past for this organization, is he's a physical guy.
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Speaker 3: You know, he's a physical dude.
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Speaker 2: You can usually hear that when a guy's physical, you know,
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Speaker 2: at the point of attack.
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Speaker 3: And Ben Trol is one of those guys.
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Speaker 2: You know, it sounds physical when he makes contact with somebody.
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Speaker 3: So he's doing a good job at this point.
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Speaker 4: Are you getting field Duck can of how the secondary
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Speaker 4: is gonna look at a lot of competition when I.
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Speaker 2: Guys are Yeah, I think more so the play style
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Speaker 2: of our guys, and I think that's kind of an
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Speaker 2: extension or reflection Matt and Perk. You know, Drew Scarry,
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Speaker 2: Bill Shri and those guys are all over them. But
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Speaker 2: I think they've brought They've brought an extreme level of
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Speaker 2: detail to the guys. There's a lot of accountability in
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Speaker 2: that room.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 3: They're hard on each other, but they love playing together,
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Speaker 3: you know.
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Speaker 2: So that's a great room. It's a great room to
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Speaker 2: be in just a day to day even in meetings
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Speaker 2: and everything. Uh, they're passionate about football and always looking
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Speaker 2: to do more. So that's coming together in terms of
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Speaker 2: who's gonna do what. But we really feel like the
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Speaker 2: whole collective group can give us a lot out there.
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Speaker 5: Speaking of the secondary and have two days of Travis
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Speaker 5: Hunter being back out there, just how has he been
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Speaker 5: and what have you seen.
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Speaker 2: Out of having Yeah, I mean he's getting back in
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Speaker 2: the flow, back in the swing of things, and he
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Speaker 2: looks good, you know. He I think, like a lot
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Speaker 2: of these guys, changed his body a little bit this offseason,
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Speaker 2: you know, So the silver lining Obviously, you never want
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Speaker 2: to see anybody get injured, but I think he really
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Speaker 2: put his best foot forward in the weight room, you know,
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Speaker 2: as he was recovering.
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Speaker 3: From a lower body injury.
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Speaker 2: Uh, and really built up his upper body and everything,
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Speaker 2: so he's he just looks really physical, uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: in the in the teamwork and in the end visual period.
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Speaker 2: So he's done a good job.
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Speaker 5: I saw it yesterday, you were working individually with him.
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Speaker 5: I know you do that with everybody, but with him,
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Speaker 5: when you can get those extra reps, just how much
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Speaker 5: how important is.
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Speaker 1: That for him?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also because you know, he's got a lot
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Speaker 2: of heavy lifting. He's split in time, so every second matters,
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Speaker 2: every second counts, And I think that Matt Rujo has
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Speaker 2: done a great job with him in that room where
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Speaker 2: just really being super detailed and finding any second of
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Speaker 2: the day to help him out from a fundamentals perspective,
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Speaker 2: you know, and continue to grow, because.
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Speaker 5: What's the biggest difference between you know, you having to
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Speaker 5: try to install your system last year is out there
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Speaker 5: already being installed coming in from the second year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime there's familiarity, you know, you can hit the
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Speaker 2: ground running a little bit more. So we probably have
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Speaker 2: let's say a little bit more in than we did
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Speaker 2: at this point last year.
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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it's about repetition.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's a muscle memory type of sport, and
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Speaker 2: like anything else, like in martial arts, right, you got
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Speaker 2: to get better and better and better. You got to
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Speaker 2: you get better by doing things over and over and
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Speaker 2: over again, you know, and more more reps, more opportunity
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Speaker 2: to get out here in practice, more reps and the
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Speaker 2: walk through.
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Speaker 3: That's what we need right now. I think that's what
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Speaker 3: everybody needs this time.
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Speaker 1: It can but that an advantage right now. Is that
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Speaker 1: something you see planing off down the road.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a great question, because the NFL
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Speaker 2: season so long, you know, and the way you practice changes.
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Speaker 3: A lot of times during the season.
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Speaker 2: And I thought Liam did an unbelievable job last year
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Speaker 2: because I want to say, maybe at the midpoint we
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Speaker 2: won the last seven or whatever it was, or maybe
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Speaker 2: more I don't even remember. But I think the way
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Speaker 2: that he had had the practice is set up for
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Speaker 2: us to get a ton of reps as the season
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Speaker 2: went on was a real shot in the arm for
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Speaker 2: our guys.
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Speaker 3: And that really comes from.
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Speaker 2: The familiarity, you know, doing it again and again and again,
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Speaker 2: and we're trying to build that. The benefit is, like
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Speaker 2: you said, we have a lot of we got a
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Speaker 2: good foundation from last year, so we're trying to grow
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Speaker 2: that and the guys have done a good job, you know,
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Speaker 2: retaining all that information.
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Speaker 1: What did you see from Trayvon so far?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks good.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: I say this to you guys a lot. But he's
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Speaker 2: a special guy for us. He's an important guy for
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Speaker 2: us because he enables us to do a bunch of
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Speaker 2: different things without subbing different personnel groupings on the field.
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Speaker 2: So we can be a lot of things, play a
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Speaker 2: lot of different fronts because of Treymon, and that's something
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Speaker 2: that's helped us in.
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Speaker 3: The run game.
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Speaker 2: And really, at the end of the day, if you
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Speaker 2: stop the run on early down, you have an opportunity
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Speaker 2: to rush the passer and what you're hoping for is
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Speaker 2: to get him behind the sticks and not be playing
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Speaker 2: fifty to fifty ball. He's one of those guys that
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Speaker 2: enables us to don't pin your ears back a little
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Speaker 2: bit more because you're not playing as much fifty to
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Speaker 2: fifty ball on second and long and third down.
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Speaker 3: So he is super.
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Speaker 2: Important to our defense, and he's just he's pretty driven
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Speaker 2: right now in terms of what I see from him.
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Speaker 2: He had a great offseason and he's grinding, he's working
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Speaker 2: his ass off right now.
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Speaker 5: Being driven part is that just to kind of put
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Speaker 5: last year behind him in terms of injuries.
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Speaker 1: And fighting through that, or is it? No?
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Speaker 3: I think if you met it, I think if.
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Speaker 2: You met that kid's pay you see, like he didn't
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Speaker 2: have a choice but to be driven. You know.
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Speaker 3: Uh, his old man is a tough guy.
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Speaker 2: He's just like a no nonsense like you know, I
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Speaker 2: want to hang around him, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 2: Like it's it's Uh, he's the type of guy you
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Speaker 2: want to coach.
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Speaker 3: He's just Uh, that's the way he is. Whatever it is.
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Speaker 2: I don't think a contract, none of that stuff matters
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Speaker 2: to him.
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Speaker 3: He's just a driven guy, you know.
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Speaker 2: And he's a guy that wants you to be honest
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Speaker 2: with him. And I think that the most important part
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Speaker 2: of improvement is honesty. And he welcomes that. Some guy
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Speaker 2: shy away from that, you know, to catch feelings. Uh,
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Speaker 2: he's not one of those guys. He's a total pro.
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Speaker 2: He wants the truth all the time and we're giving.
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Speaker 3: It to him.
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Speaker 1: Favorite trade on story like whether something happened on the
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Speaker 1: field meaning or practice.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well no, I mean, uh, there's a lot of them.
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Speaker 2: He's just he's all business and uh, every day he
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Speaker 2: enjoyed being around him, is what I would say about trade.
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Speaker 1: That's not the same question got Josh. Obviously he had
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Speaker 1: a good year last year. When you talked to me
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Speaker 1: about this year anything seeing.
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Speaker 2: Out, Yeah, I think everybody you know looks at last
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Speaker 2: year like at the end, you know, we wanted to
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Speaker 2: do more, We want to achieve more, and that starts here.
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Speaker 2: That's all kind of in the future, and everybody's mentality
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Speaker 2: has been you know, in order for us to do
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Speaker 2: what we want to do and have success, we've got
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Speaker 2: to focus on the here and.
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Speaker 3: Now every day.
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Speaker 2: Josh is one of those guys too. He's got great
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Speaker 2: leadership qualities because he.
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Speaker 3: Cares about his teammates.
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Speaker 2: You know, a guy who's been that successful, he's a
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Speaker 2: great teammate and I really value that. I think he's
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Speaker 2: such a big part of what we do because he
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Speaker 2: drives the message not only in that room, but in
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Speaker 2: the unit room every day.
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Speaker 5: Josh, you were not only voted top one hundred and
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Speaker 5: top fifty. What did that mean to you when you
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Speaker 5: found out? And just kind of to have that honor
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Speaker 5: from your ears.
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Speaker 4: What does that mean? You know, just to have just
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Speaker 4: to see value in you. I don't know, it is
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Speaker 4: what it is.
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Speaker 1: It is what it is.
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Speaker 4: I'm appreciative, but you know, you know, I play a
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Speaker 4: game to be the best in the world. Uh, so
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Speaker 4: it's just a step closer, I would say, but it's
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Speaker 4: motivating and you know, I just gotta keep it up.
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Speaker 1: Guys watch the film and you know, they see what
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Speaker 1: they see.
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Speaker 4: And for me, man, I'm just trying to be inspiration
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Speaker 4: to myself, inspiration the guys behind me, and keep going
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Speaker 4: through this thing until I get them more.
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Speaker 5: What's the biggest thing for you this camp over the
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Speaker 5: next couple of weeks that you.
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Speaker 1: Want to focus on.
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Speaker 4: I would say, uh, you know, just past rush wise,
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Speaker 4: I think the physicality. You can't really teach physicality. Either
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Speaker 4: got it or you don't. And uh, you know, we
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Speaker 4: gotta go. We gotta I got it and we got
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Speaker 4: a lot of guys that have that. So for me
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Speaker 4: just to you know, emphasize on you know, what can
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Speaker 4: I do better, uh going into this year, and that's
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Speaker 4: you know, getting out the ball faster or uh, working
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Speaker 4: my hands better on the top of the rush, or
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Speaker 4: you know, if they get jump sets, like being able
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Speaker 4: to defeat a blocker. Uh So that's the you know
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, That's kind of what I'm focusing on
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Speaker 4: right now.
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Speaker 1: And uh it's a good start so far. Watching film
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Speaker 1: on you and and all that stuff.
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Speaker 4: How do you combat them watching film and you know,
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Speaker 4: knowing your moves and that up like the office minded
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Speaker 4: like when they're trying to it's not about how what
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Speaker 4: it is you still got. I mean, at the end
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Speaker 4: of the day, I can tell I can you may see,
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Speaker 4: you know, I may watch film and be like, man,
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Speaker 4: this guy is hot garbage, but you get into a
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Speaker 4: game and he's locking you up or you're doing him dirty,
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So it's just like, you know,
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Speaker 4: watching a film is one thing, but then actually going
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Speaker 4: out there playing with the intentions, playing with that mindset
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Speaker 4: of you know what I'm saying, I gotta take the
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Speaker 4: fight to him because you know, if you slip up
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Speaker 4: one time, you know what I'm saying, he can take
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Speaker 4: you out. So if they can watch film on me,
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Speaker 4: and I feel like everybody knows what I do by
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Speaker 4: this point now, So it was just like, you know
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, how you gonna block me?
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Speaker 1: And you know what's my counter to that?
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Speaker 4: I always tell the guys man, football, when you get
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Speaker 4: to your point past, rushing becomes reactionary. So it's like
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Speaker 4: you come in with a plan, you rush with the plan,
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Speaker 4: but you're playing don't work. What is your reaction to it?
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Speaker 4: Because everybody loses. But like when that person stops you,
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Speaker 4: what does it look like? How do you respond to that?
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Speaker 4: And I think that's what kind of makes those split
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Speaker 4: second decisions a lot faster. So do what you gotta do,
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Speaker 4: you know, I try to have a game plan off
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Speaker 4: of it. What i'm'a think, i'm'a get, but we're gonna
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Speaker 4: go from there.
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Speaker 1: You're always pretty upfront vent your goals. You always stay defensive.
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Speaker 1: Invd in the Super Bowl?
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Speaker 4: Same yeah, of course, man, I tell you, man, you know,
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Speaker 4: why not shoot for the top every every year?
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Speaker 1: And so for me, it's not I didn't get it
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Speaker 1: this year. I didn't get it yet.
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Speaker 4: So that's kind of my mentality until I'm done playing football.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 4: I actually got a surprisingly a great text this morning
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Speaker 4: from uh you know, uh uh Kalay's Campbell and uh,
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Speaker 4: you know, right before I went out to practice.
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Speaker 1: Man, he said, you know, he wish.
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Speaker 4: He said, I love you, Josh, and you know you're
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Speaker 4: gonna lead the league in SAX this year, you know.
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Speaker 4: For me, so it's just you know, even more validation that,
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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, I'm on the right path mentally.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: I got peers around me that see the same thing.
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Speaker 4: And you know, I got a guy that I looked
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Speaker 4: up to my whole career. Uh text me out of
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Speaker 4: blue when I'm thinking about it, Uh naturally. So for me,
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Speaker 4: it's just to keep pushing and you know, keep finding
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Speaker 4: things to get better and and you know, maximize off
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Speaker 4: of every opportunity that care and asking that's your goal
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Speaker 4: before that tax anyway, Yeah, a hundred, That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: It's like, you know, you know, everybody likes to manifest.
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Speaker 4: You wanna s you gotta speak greatness if you wanna
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Speaker 4: achieve greatness. And so for me just to have that
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Speaker 4: mindset when I step on the field, what's my intentions?
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Speaker 4: And then you know, again having people come to you
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Speaker 4: like you know, you had a dream about a person
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Speaker 4: might say, hey, Bro, I just he's that's the first
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Speaker 4: person you see. But Bro, I just was thinking about you, bro,
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Speaker 4: And it's just like it's just the universe telling you Maybe.
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Speaker 1: You know, but you know, it's just how the universe works. Man,
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Speaker 1: It like the signs. Sorry, it's okay. What's your favorite
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Speaker 1: thing about Trayvon? Uh? Trayvon?
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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think there's a there's not a
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Speaker 4: particular thing that I like or hate about him. You know,
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Speaker 4: he's just a overall great guy, you know.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 4: On the field, you know, he's a brother. You know,
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Speaker 4: he treats to everybody the same. He jokes, he plays,
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Speaker 4: he's serious. He knows when it turn it on, when
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Speaker 4: it turn it off. Uh, turn it on, turn it off.
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Speaker 4: And then we step on the field. You know, he
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Speaker 4: has that mindset that I he is the best in
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Speaker 4: the world. And so for me, you know, having a
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Speaker 4: guy that I can you know, rely on like that,
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Speaker 4: uh is huge. And then off the field, having a
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Speaker 4: guy that I can depend on, you know, it's just
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Speaker 4: it's major to having the locker room and he's just
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Speaker 4: a great locker room guy.
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Speaker 5: How are you carrying your momentum off of last season
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Speaker 5: into this off season training camp and in.
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Speaker 4: The future for the seasons just you know, you know,
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Speaker 4: how how am I watching the tape, you know, the
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Speaker 4: areas that I feel like I can approve on last
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Speaker 4: year and making that the key focus right now. So
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Speaker 4: right now is you know, focus on the things that
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Speaker 4: I need to fill focused on to get better. And
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Speaker 4: then also conditioning, you know, in my running to the ball,
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Speaker 4: my doing the things that I set out.
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Speaker 1: Everything that I want to do. Uh, that's kind of
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Speaker 1: my main focus.
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Speaker 4: You know, in the first couple of days of training
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Speaker 4: camp or we don't got pads on, to let the
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Speaker 4: standard be the standard. So then when you when we
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Speaker 4: put pads on, things get a little bit more high
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Speaker 4: and you know, the sparks get the flying a little
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Speaker 4: bit more than I'm still doing the things that I
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Speaker 4: set out in the first place, And that's the main
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Speaker 4: part right now.
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Speaker 1: Yea, and works last year. You shouldn't kind of embrace
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Speaker 1: being you to you guys, I'm stepping up, yeah for sure. Yeah. Man.
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Speaker 1: You know, they're true professionals.
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Speaker 4: Man. They take care of their bodies, they take care
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Speaker 4: of their minds, and like you know, they come out
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Speaker 4: on the field every single day. You know, I hear
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Speaker 4: from j every day. You know what I'm saying always.
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Speaker 4: You know, we're like I tell you I'm competitive. I
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Speaker 4: think he's not more competitive than me, but he tells
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Speaker 4: me more than I tell people.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'll let you know when
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Speaker 1: we're out here competing, DJ will like I'll walk I'll
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Speaker 1: wake up and.
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Speaker 4: I'll walk into the building and he'll be the first
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Speaker 4: thing I'm betting you today.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know,
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Speaker 1: I love that.
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Speaker 4: And uh, you know, after every practice, every play, Josh,
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Speaker 4: you've seen that. You see that I beat your hair,
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Speaker 4: I got your hair. You probably got me right here.
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Speaker 4: So it's just a lot of a lot of competition
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Speaker 4: flying around with me and him.
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Speaker 1: And then Danny again is a true professional.
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Speaker 4: He's working on the things that he needs to work
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Speaker 4: on and he's taking heed to it.
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Speaker 1: And uh, they're all progressive.
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Speaker 5: You talk about your goals, your manifested. Is there a
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Speaker 5: line between focusing on and and ubsessing or if they're
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Speaker 5: not a line and you're just completely dolling.
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Speaker 4: I like to be obsessed with it, you know what
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Speaker 4: I'm saying. But you again, it's it's a you gotta
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Speaker 4: be healthy about it. And that's why I'm talking about
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Speaker 4: like being intentional about the work that you do.
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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
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Speaker 4: Like when I go out, you know, home, I'm not
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Speaker 4: obsessive with about it.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm doubt and I'm in
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Speaker 1: that moment.
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Speaker 4: I'm spending time with my family and I'm taking off,
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Speaker 4: you know, relaxing my brain.
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Speaker 1: Cause if I just wake up and and.
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Speaker 4: I wake up thinking about football, I go to sleep
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Speaker 4: thinking about football.
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Speaker 1: But like when I don't need to.
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Speaker 4: And I'm spending time with my family, like I'm in
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Speaker 4: that moment, you know what I'm saying. I'm in the
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Speaker 4: hotel room, I'm watching film cause I'm in here. But
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Speaker 4: as soon as I get home and it's you know,
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Speaker 4: playbook down and Josh Daddy Job's present. I'm here in
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Speaker 4: this moment. And so for me, man, yes, I'm obsessed
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Speaker 4: with it. Uh And if I'm not, then you know,
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Speaker 4: probably doesn't play football.
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Speaker 5: Say, I was just gonna say, do you feel lighter
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Speaker 5: mentally going into the season knowing all of the things
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Speaker 5: that you your family you were gone through last year
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Speaker 5: kind of or is that not even something that's.
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Speaker 2: On your brand?
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Speaker 1: You know, it's you know, it's it's football. You know
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Speaker 1: that's I'm here to.
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Speaker 4: You know, my family knows that this is my job,
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Speaker 4: and in order for us to be where we need
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Speaker 4: to be, I need to be the best version of me.
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Speaker 4: And so my family allows me to be myself, which
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Speaker 4: allows me to be myself, if that makes sense.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, my family allows me to shine and take
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Speaker 1: care of me. And that's I'm not gonna. I'm'na take
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Speaker 1: advantage of the sounds that I do have.
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Speaker 5: Waiting for anybody else was saying last year you were
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Speaker 5: seeing Levan, Who's the destination?
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Speaker 1: Acing still without them?
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Speaker 5: Do you like you make signature?
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Speaker 4: I mean, for me, you can't put words until you
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Speaker 4: just gotta watch the film, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: Cause you know there's the highest paid those tackles.
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Speaker 4: You see all these guys that you know to get
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Speaker 4: the recognition, and you know what I'm saying, You're like, oh,
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Speaker 4: they're the best because they have all that, they have
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Speaker 4: the accolades. But again, when your peers, you know, like myself,
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Speaker 4: I don't have like people say, I don't like, I
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Speaker 4: don't got sacks.
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Speaker 1: Oh you're not a good n you're not a good age.
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Speaker 4: But your peers turn on the tape and they see
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Speaker 4: they study and they be like this dude is a
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Speaker 4: hell of a player. When you turn on the tape
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Speaker 4: and wants Levin Hamilton, He's the best nose in the game.
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Speaker 1: I've never seen him get job up the ball.
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Speaker 4: He's always playing with consistent knocked back and nobody runs
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Speaker 4: in this gap. And like you know, and he's working
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Speaker 4: on the things that he needs to move on from
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Speaker 4: mass years and now you know he works on those things.
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Speaker 4: You know, you get devone three or four sacks a year.
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Speaker 4: You know, he's he's the best in the world nationally,
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So you know we're still
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Speaker 4: we're still working on that. We got a whole bunch
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Speaker 4: of guys like that, and you know we just we
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Speaker 4: play for y we play for each other man that still,
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Speaker 4: you know, so justt of us