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"We're NOT on a Boat..." Episode 51 · DMV Mess Hall

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This is Will Montgomery former Washington Redskins center,
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y'all. Let's go, folks.
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This is Trey Johnson the headbanger y'all and you're
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listening to mess hall with Riley, captain, and tailgate,
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Ted work. What's going on rally?
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How you doing, man? Hey man, in the words of Bone
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Thugs-N-Harmony, it's the first of the month.
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So bring your checks and come on.
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Hey man, I'm good, brother, how you doing?
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Yo, man, I can't complain. It is the first of the month.
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I just finished my company's annual like fiscal year, things
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are looking somewhat up, I might be able to buy a that new
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surfboard. I've been having my eyes on
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based upon how things were going.
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Shouts. Oh, no, complaints on my own
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man. Other that I need to learn how
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to surf. So I'll not answer you answer my
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question. You know, how to serve, okay,
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Jack a couple of times. I mean, those that kind of
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curious, you know, I'm out of the beach a lot.
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If you guys follow me on Twitter, Instagram, so I can
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bodyboard gotten pretty damn good at that are times when I'm
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out in the ocean and the waves just aren't good for that.
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So want to get in a longboarding.
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So I've been like My entire YouTube feed is just people on
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longboards. I didn't realize that hanging 10
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meant literally hanging your toes over the board.
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So just learning different stuff like that.
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And then I've been trying to see how I can get aboard and then
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transport it to where it needs to go with my car, that doesn't
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have a roof rack. So first world problems, man.
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Like anything in life, you gotta pay to play.
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Oh yeah, now I picked up a paddleboard so I've I do
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stand-up paddle boarding on the Potomac which I don't recommend
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for anybody because the water is disgusting.
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But I, you know, I can't do kind of, you know, you're doing your
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Century ride. I can't do that on a bike
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because I got a bad back, I fractured my spine years ago.
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So golf things like that, to people kind of do to keep in
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shape. I just can't do, but being on
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the water. Water is easier for me and a lot
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better for me. So, I picked up a stand up
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paddle board, which is inflatable, no such thing as
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inflatable surfboard. So trying to figure out how in
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the world, I get that finagled and I was thinking about maybe
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going out to the beach this weekend where the wetsuit and
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seeing how it goes for the first time but you know, we'll see how
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it goes because last weekend, it didn't go too.
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Well, for me at least, Hmm and those wetsuits don't necessarily
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keep you warm. I mean it depends on how thick
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they are. I mean they've got you know,
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different ratings in the wet suits like a 3-2 rating or 54
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just all depends on thickness for the thicker.
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It is the less Mobility you have in the thing and there was one
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time it took me no joke. First time ever putting one on
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30 40 minutes to get this thing on.
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Hmm. And I get to the beach.
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There are no waves I might as well a bit like a I mean there
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was absolutely nothing. So it's like I'm not just
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sitting here on the beach, the other day.
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I'm wet suit. I'm getting in the water.
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So I just sat there and Float around like a manatee for, you
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know, 10, 15 minutes, just to see if that thing actually kept
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me. Warm got back to the place where
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we were staying and I got stuck in it and I couldn't get out,
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and I was yelling for mrs. Tailgate to come help me.
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But she went for a walk with the dog.
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So I'm at the garage in his house.
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I'm staying in and I'm half dress because I can't get like
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all of my extremities a damn suit.
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She comes back, like, 10 minutes later and I look like I went
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maybe ten rounds of boxing because I was just dripping,
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sweat, trying it out this damn town and get out of it.
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Yeah, it was a it was an ordeal man.
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Definitely not a pretty sight. Hmm.
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Well, I think the when I was in the Bahamas I went Snorkeling.
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And the water obviously, because it's the Bahamas was warm.
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Oh, yeah, ready. So I had had a good time.
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Didn't have any issues taking mine on or off?
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So yeah, it's about 44 degrees right now.
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Water-wise not counting the where and then everything else.
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So let's just see how it goes. It's I'm not excited to watch
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the Pro Bowl man. I know me, I got a whole thing
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going on this weekend with a flag football and the DOT
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Dodgeball and all that stuff but I got nothing go on this
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weekend. So I was trying to pick.
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Maybe get back out of the water, see how it goes.
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Even is a little chilly. I feel you on that because I
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plan on trying to get some cycling in, you know, may form.
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He's going to be here before you know it and this Century ride is
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going to kick my butt, but let's face like anything else.
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If you haven't done it, it is going to kick your butt.
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So you gotta get the body acclimated.
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All right, we had a friend that says past Saturday.
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I'm wearing for those that are Took us on YouTube Grave Digger
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t-shirt. So once a Monster Jam about a
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big fan, it's a good time. I mean it's a lot of fun.
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The tricks they do with those trucks is kind of crazy and we
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had one of our friends show up that just got done training for
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a I guess Triathlon in Ran 16 miles that morning and was
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having a hard time that Guy Fieri's.
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Getting up that staircase. So I thought it was going to
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have to get the you know, special private eye.
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Later formed. So they could make it up and
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kind of hang out was before we all went inside.
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But it was up to me. It's just seems like torture,
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like, what you're doing on that bike, you know, maybe I think
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the longest I've written is 20 miles on the bike around DC and
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back and everything else, but a hundred man, I have no idea how
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you're doing that. Time and patience bro, and it's
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a goal. So you know, when you gotta go,
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you focus on and you get it done, man.
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Yeah. That's my goals or a little less
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on the time and patience scale. It's like all right.
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I'll go out there and hit a couple of waves and see how it
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goes. And it'll work out then
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Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace.
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And someone could buy that board off me.
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Nothing. It's nothing K.
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Alright. Well, wow.
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So okay, but speaking of time and patience, I had nothing but
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on Sunday. So, we actually put our, our
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Christmas tree away. Finally considering the wife
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didn't want it up in February. This is tailgate was not too
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happy and I really had no excuse, not to take it down and
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I was just sitting around all day waiting for the championship
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games. And first one was until 3:00, so
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I made an excuse to drive into Maryland.
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So I can put some bets down because I still haven't gone to
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the sports book at FedEx Field even though I know we talked
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about it last week but I went in and And I put down a couple of
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parties because they get you man put down anywhere between five
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and $100. You get that money back.
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Well, I put down three, guess how many I hit?
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How many? 00 man.
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It just like one of them was for Dak to have basically my Dak
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Prescott parlor. I'm not that crushed at.
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Sorry, my jail and hurts parlor jail and had to have a touchdown
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not received not passing. We actually had to run one in
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anytime touchdown. Yeah anytime touchdown that I
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had a Christian McCaffrey anytime touchdown and I figured
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the 49ers were going to be behind.
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So Brock party had to have a 175 yards, receiving.
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Well, we all know how that went, he had what, maybe 30.
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I mean, it was just like out of all them thinking, this is going
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to hit. It's a no-brainer Tim dollars
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into one me 100. This will be good.
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I got some more money to put down that Circle or maybe get
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some booties for my wet suit. Now, man, that was just a big
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freaking loss. It just drove me crazy.
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Put, I went down on the Chiefs, which, I think curse The Bangles
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because that didn't work out for me.
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Because I had a dramatic Chase touchdown.
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And that Didn't happen. And I had a part of light mixed
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with that with a Travis Kelce touchdown.
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And then I had Joe Mixon getting so many yards.
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Well that didn't happen. So it's just I'm torn man.
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And yeah, going to have to put money on the Eagles because I'm,
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you know, for do in the playoffs.
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Every team I put money on losses and I can't stand Jacksonville
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homes, but I got to be of chiefs fan this week or coming up.
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So I'm going to have If the throw money down on Jalen hurts
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and them just so I can put my Voodoo down to make sure they
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lose and don't get another trophy for that case.
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Oh bro. Okay so Don't waste your money,
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man. Keep your money in your pocket,
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bro. It's the free $10 for me betting
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and losing this past week. So and to me, if it is a waste
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of money, don't get me wrong. But if it means that the Eagles
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don't win, which I'm starting to get worried and I know, you
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know, for those wondering rally said, it's February 1st.
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We still got some time, but I'm starting to get a little worried
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with some of the stories coming out.
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The fact that the Chiefs have to Rocky Corners going against jail
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and hurts and AJ Brown and Devon has math.
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I just starting to freak me out a little bit that they might be
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able to pull this thing off, handling.
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Just depending on how Patrick Mahomes angle is going to be
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That's going to be the key but you see, he did just enough to
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make it work against the Bengals.
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So I think that he'll be able to do the exact same with at least
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now what to two and a half weeks off.
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I think he'll be all right, man. And I think he's gonna, I think
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this game, he might get shot up even though I know he said that
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he wouldn't this game, he probably would because they need
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that that Mahomes back, that's all they do.
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Yeah, yeah, they're really do. Did you put any down this week?
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Or how'd you do? Yes.
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And that's why I said don't do it, bro.
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I'm speaking from experience as way to get some advice from some
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other people. Man.
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I had a parley as welding and I it may have been the same one
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that you had. I don't really, really remember.
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I hate going back over losing bill.
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So only thing I know is I didn't get it and I I said, all right
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and and the tight and I had to sew the Bengals tied in, he
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didn't he's been money, he's been clutch all through the
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season to the playoffs. He's got at least one test.
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I have any time touchdown 88 I think is his name is number and
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for the Bengals and know. Yep.
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So yeah. It's I said, nope.
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I'm not doing it again until the following season, bro.
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I'm not putting any more money down on anything.
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Just not going to Man, I got I got I got so many things that
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are coming down the pipe, the where that money can be used for
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that, you know, now, granted they entice you to do.
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If you put if you just put 50 bucks down, you can win for 50.
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And you're like hell, yeah. Sounds good.
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Vegas Vegas. No, that's that dumb money.
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They call it Big. This is up.
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Got another sucker? PT?
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Barnum Bailey baby. Yeah, but that's my problem is I
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keep putting down parlays. It's like I just should have I
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wanted the under but Seagal, it's not enough, you know, to
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put $10 down or put $50 down, you get $50 back.
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It's just it's even money. Like it's not sexy enough.
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Now, I myself in sexier and next thing you know, I'm hitting on
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it and it's a slap me in the face and walking away.
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This reminds me of my days back in the club when I was in my
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twenties. Oh no, you know, I just did not
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work out. Well, the biggest slap in my
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face that I've had at, told me that I needed to Bring it in was
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Giants, commanders in New York and I bet I bet the odd, and for
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those who don't know, you can bet that the score even its core
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ends and even number, or it ends in an odd number, and I had been
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looking at commanders and we had been Indian odd numbers and I
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said, oh, you know what, I'm going heavy on.
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I'd this time baby put it down. Boom.
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And all of a sudden it ended up in a tie.
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It was an evening. I'll bro, I was hurt, man, I was
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hurt so that that got me gunshot to go low low, bro.
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Don't do anything big because I when I say I put some money that
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I put some money down. So are you that guy that is in
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like Vegas or Casino? That's walking.
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Past a roulette table and sees that, you know, it's green,
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green green, green, Green thinking.
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Oh man, it's going to be green. Again, and next thing you know,
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it's red. No, no, that's not me.
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I don't see that's it. I don't bet in Vegas.
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I told you that. I go to Craig's but I don't bed
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in Vegas. If I'm going to bet any place
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believe it or not. And this is the honest to God,
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truth. The only luck that I've ever had
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in Bedding, is it Fort Lauderdale?
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The Hard Rock Casino a tokra exact table, I don't know what
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it is about that particular casino, but I win money there.
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I don't win money anywhere else. So I've learned if I'm going to
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play. Jack, go take my butt to Florida
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to Hollywood Florida at the Hard Rock and play there because I
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win. And, and one time what the hell?
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I think one time man, you know, now this is many moons ago, but
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I want to see I want like four thousand dollars, bro.
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Now I was on the table for a for a good six hours, but man, but I
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was winning and winning and winning.
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And before I knew matter fact, I was winning so much to where the
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girl that I was dating at the time.
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She got ticked off at me and left the table left.
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She left the table and so she left the table.
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And she called me, you know, you you know, when you bet you can't
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answer your phone on the table. So I had to go there.
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Yeah, I had. Yeah, I had to get off the table
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and I said, I said what she goes.
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We're gonna miss our flight. I couldn't believe it.
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Bro, I do agree that long that that long man that long so that
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was a good night as far as gambling concerned, not as far
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as a relationship. Yeah, we broke up after that but
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the say that flight back. I've made and she's probably
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sitting Southwest nowhere near you but hey, I was happy anyway.
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Let's begin. I hear you man.
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Yeah, well, I mean, moral of the story is don't gamble or take
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anything that I bet on because they have not been hitting, but
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something that has been hitting is NFL salary cap.
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It went up sixteen point six million dollars from last
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season. I mean it just keeps going up
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and up and up. So the salary cap this year,
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it's up to be two hundred twenty four point eight million
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dollars. So when the Commander's cut
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winced and I still don't know what that is, they're going to
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have thirty two point eight million dollars available so
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don't have a decent chunk of change ready to go and couple
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people are free. Agents coming up one of them
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that isn't Free agent, but someone that the team should
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extend, is Cam curl, and I can't remember if we play this sound
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bite from Rivera and Marty's press conference, but this was
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j.p. Finley, asking about cam curl
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and the Commander's plans for him.
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This offseason, we've seen it with Terry, we've seen it with
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John, you got Camp curl, going into the last year of his
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contract. How do you guys approach that
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with a player that you said is really important to your
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defense? Well, he is a part of what we're
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doing, but, you know, again something that we have to look
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at, you know, and decide and Great, I mean we've got players
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that obviously. We've got to be able to get back
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on the football field and you know, do what we have to do and
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we'll see how it goes. I mean again we are definitely
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in a, in a in an evaluation process.
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See the big thing has got understand to us.
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We can't answer those questions directly because you know, if we
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do we start telling everybody what we want to do, players
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included in their agents. You know, these are all guys
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that we know they fit. We know that what we part of
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what we want to do. So we'll go and see what
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Happens, like with John, Terry before him is camera.
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Type of player. You could identify.
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As someone you want here for the Long Haul, he just he is
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somebody that fits, what we do. We, you know, again we just have
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to, you got to be careful at this point because it's because
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I promise, you sit down and he goes to negotiate.
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The first thing a guy does put the paper up and right here it
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says, wow, you just, he's a very, very, very, very, very
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important. That's what we're trying to
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avoid. I mean, that's why we can't
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answer that question directly because we get it, we understand
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and he is a part of what we're trying to do but you know, to
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sit here and play our hand right now.
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It's It doesn't make sense for us and we are still working
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through a lot of situations. And you know when you allocate
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resources in one spot, you don't have them for a different spot
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and all that has to fit into what we're trying to do.
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So it's an ongoing process and ongoing discussion.
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So being realistic, the NFL knows everybody knows how good
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kicker less. So regardless if Rivera and
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Mayhew want to talk about it or don't want to talk about a press
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conference, everyone knows cam should be getting paid and he
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technically is still under contract.
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So he's going to be an unrestricted free agent next
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season, in 2024. So they don't have to do
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anything right now. He's set to make a base salary.
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Of 2.9 Million. His cat numbers going to be 3
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million. So he's still on his rookie
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deal. And the commanders are getting a
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steal out of him. The thing is like, Terry and
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like John Allen. You got that 93 on right now,
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you wanted to extend them before they hit the last year and their
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deal, granted. Those guys were first round.
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Well, John's a first-round Terror was a third-round draft.
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Pick, cam was a seventh round pick.
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He hasn't been paid really? I mean, in regards to everything
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else. Looking at his Burrs in his
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first rookie year he made and, you know, obviously it's all
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relative 600,000 his second year.
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Eight hundred thousand last year.
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Nine hundred thousand this year. He said to make three million so
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he hasn't hit that payday like John has.
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But thing is it's in the Commander's favor to extend him
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before he gets a chance. To even taste the open market
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and a lot of people said that, you know, just off.
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Offer Terry that cash now because why risk it and
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something to make says, it's kind of the same thing.
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We can curl. Why risk him potentially a
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getting hurt and be testing the market because he is one of the
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highest-rated safeties out there and apparently cams dad, I don't
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know. Did you see this?
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No, so cams, dad is on Twitter. His handle is at Coach G curl.
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He's got about 5,000 followers and he tweeted the other.
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He is a usn that followed an awesome children, Collegiate
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football fan, and Dad's a camera curl of the Washington
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commanders. So he has that on his Twitter
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profile. He tweeted or quote tweeted a
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Washington Times. Article that was written by Matt
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Paris. I believe talking about cam
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curls possible contract extension looms, over the
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Commander's offseason cams dad put Camp girls possible
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contract, extension looms, over the Commander's offseason
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Washington Times, nothing less than 80 mil and a bunch of
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exclamation points. And that's been seen 209,000
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times cam couple days later on the 31st tweeted, get up out my
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pockets and I mean I think his dad kind of brought that on and
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yeah. Okay JP friendly.
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And like other beat guys, everyone's wondering what the
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team is going to do because the prudent thing is to offer him a
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contract but now that we know the exact cap situation and the
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money that There's got to play with mean, what are your
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thoughts on them? Offering him at long-term deal
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or knowing he's been unhealthy the past two seasons.
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He hasn't played a full 16 and 17.
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What are your thoughts on them? Actually?
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Making that large size contract extension for that young, man.
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Well, I forget exactly what the phrase is, but what is it
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today's Price to tomorrow's bargain or something.
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Today's bargain is, tomorrow's, whatever it is.
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I mean it's social you want to buy low obviously and get high
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returns. I think it sounds almost like a
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RG3 type of thing with the dad being in a locker room and you
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just come on. Pop, don't do me like that.
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I'm gonna buy you your Lamborghini but don't don't do
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me like that. All right.
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Um, yeah man, at that. The problem that we're going to
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have Ted and And we're just not going to have enough money to go
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around for everybody that we that we know we're gonna need,
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you know it. And and that's the the brutal
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side of football and and you know you need these guys, you
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know, they can help you. But which I mean with sweat girl
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you know what's up? Little saw the guy we just I
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can't spend my God Ron de Rana. I mean yeah I mean there's just
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so Any guys who have to give pay and then you have to look at
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possibly. Are you on?
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What are you gonna do is force. Quarterback is concerned, you
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know, did this so many unknowns and I can appreciate coach
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saying that, you know, you don't want to tip your hat and we know
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it's a need right now. They have about a short hairs
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basically. And because we do have these
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needs, you know, do you, do you take a chance and try to find
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another Camp Crow and the giraffe, you know, the or do you
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go ahead and say, Hey, you know, do another de rompe, improve a
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deal because they're on, let's face it, we don't get him, he's
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gonna get paid from somewhere Ariel Durant, he's deathly going
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someplace. I'm thinking either, and people
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talk about it, I think Chicago and Atlanta have the most cap
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space, and they also have need that defensive line.
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Yes. So if we don't keep drawing
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here, which I don't think we should, then I think he's going
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to go to Chicago. He's going to go to Atlanta and
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I was just listening. I can't remember what podcast it
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was. I think it was the washing
23:00
Football Talk guys. Duran's Locker.
23:04
Is it next to the other defensive linemen?
23:07
And I thought that was kind of odd hearing that, considering he
23:12
obviously played all those years and Bama with John and you
23:16
typically are close to your position groups in the locker
23:19
room. But the fact that his locker was
23:21
not near those guys is just seems kind of odd to me, so just
23:26
makes me wonder. He maybe doesn't have a ton of
23:29
tight Boys on this team and maybe it is all about that
23:32
dollar. I mean, he on clean-up day, he
23:35
wore that, you know, bright Green jumpsuit, whatever he was
23:38
winning, money, green. Yeah.
23:40
And a locker room and today, actually, no, two days ago, the
23:44
NFL came out with the franchise tag numbers.
23:48
So the franchise tag number for a defensive tackle is 18.9
23:53
million dollars. So we just said that there was
23:56
32.8 that were going to have available so 32.8 - 18.9 doing
24:03
the quick math that leaves the team with thirteen point nine
24:06
million dollars. I just like you said, you don't
24:10
have no cash, I can't give that to him to me.
24:14
CAM curl is more important than signing doron pain because we
24:18
don't have as much depth in the secondary.
24:21
And we saw how bad the team, went down.
24:23
The stretch would know Benjamin st.
24:26
Juste. And oh, Cam curl.
24:28
And cam is the traffic controller of that secondary?
24:33
Yeah, I mean, he's telling guys were to line up what's going on?
24:37
In. I would rather pay Cam that cash
24:40
that he deserves and there was an article on commanders wire.
24:44
That was saying curls, new contract should make him among
24:47
the top five paid safeties in the NFL currently.
24:50
Derwin James make it Fitzpatrick, Jamal Adams,
24:54
Harrison Smith and Justin Simmons compromise.
24:57
The top five James has an aav of 19 million per year, while
25:03
Simmons comes in at 15. So curls, Track shouldn't be any
25:08
less than 15 million dollars of season.
25:12
So to me, if you can lock him in at 15 but do some salary cap
25:18
whiz with his signing bonus and spread that stuff out.
25:22
So we give us more cap space this season curl is more of a
25:26
priority for me than to Ron. Well, he is a priority at the
25:32
same time. We need to look at the other
25:35
side of the ball, bro, that offense of line, I mean, that's
25:39
something else that you got to look at.
25:41
So, some point time, Don't be surprised if they just start
25:46
being like Oprah you get a tag, you get a tag, you get a tag.
25:50
You may not like it but you don't have to tag somebody, man.
25:53
I to keep someone, I honestly believe that and that player
25:56
isn't going to like it because we know what's going to happen.
25:59
After that they're going to, you can't tag multiple players.
26:04
I'm sorry day, I was my belief. You can tag one franchise
26:09
player. Now, you can have different
26:11
tags. You can have a transition tag or
26:13
the exclusive tag, but you can't tag multiple players a year.
26:17
It's just one person that you can do.
26:22
Okay, so if you had to tag someone, who would it be?
26:25
See to me, don't have to tag anybody because you did.
26:28
If you do Ron's, the only person that would be worthy of a tag.
26:32
Okay. If you needed to and I'm not
26:35
tagging to Ron, I can't have. We talked about this in our last
26:39
episode. I can't have that much money
26:41
invested in my interior of my defensive line on top of the
26:45
fact that you mentioned Chase. Not chase.
26:48
You mentioned, mom's a sweat, he was a chases.
26:50
I was getting to him as well. Chase, you have time because you
26:54
still have his fifth year option that you can exercise.
26:56
This is thethis is last year. Tez is going to be a free agent.
27:00
After this year, he's under contract still 2023 and he's
27:04
making 11.5 this year. So they expect they exercise
27:08
chases fifth year option. So they're going to have to
27:10
figure out what they're going to do with Jace this season coming
27:14
up. So to me, he's more important,
27:17
I'd rather do something there and you mentioned quarterback
27:19
earlier. This is why quarterback I Don't
27:22
want us to go and try and get a free agent because we don't have
27:28
the money to spend and to me until we get that offensive
27:31
line, right? I don't care what free-agent you
27:33
bring in here. You had commanders fans watching
27:36
the fans that were Delirious saying.
27:37
Oh, did you hear that? Tom.
27:39
Brady and Sean. Payton are going to come here.
27:42
It's like, no because that's garbage.
27:44
They were never going to come here.
27:45
And Tom Brady just retired today.
27:49
And Sean Payton just got traded to the Broncos, you know.
27:52
It's just, we said it time and time again.
27:55
Stop listening to the National reporters unless it's a John
27:59
Connor. I'm or an icky chavala for a JP
28:02
Finley. All that stuff is trashed.
28:05
Just don't believe it because they're just, I'm not saying
28:07
they're trying to get clicks, but I think our fan base is so
28:10
starved. They've got analytics on the
28:13
back and saying, if you write an article about the Commander's or
28:16
if you write an article about the Browns, but Article gets
28:20
clicked on more just because our fan base has been suffering for
28:23
just as long but we're hungry. Well it's like on Instagram or
28:29
social media when a when a girl post pictures of herself.
28:33
What do people say you're thirsty?
28:35
Oh yeah. We're definitely, we're thirsty.
28:37
Quench we have him in our thirst has not been quenched in a long
28:41
time so that's what it is and it's all of it man.
28:45
And that's why I tend to tune out a little bit.
28:49
This time of season, you know, because there's so much of back
28:52
and forth - and, and none of it almost pans out.
28:56
Yeah. So, I just try to just, like I
28:59
said, I hadn't seen the article with the curls, dad, because I
29:02
just kind of tune out a little bit to try to make some some
29:06
semblance of myself, you know, being so, so, deep into the
29:11
football season. So, when I hear stuff like that,
29:14
I it just makes me just go now, man.
29:17
Even even, I would know that Yeah, yeah, there was no way and
29:22
I get that the shows, you know, like Chris Russell and Pete
29:26
medhurst like, Grant, Paul sin and data relay.
29:30
They've got to find something to talk about right now.
29:32
So when Rex Ryan says that it becomes a topic because you get
29:37
people that call in and want to chime in and talk about it, like
29:41
I am not one of those people to me.
29:45
It's just it's a bunch of crap so I try not to feed.
29:49
It any father, but some of our fans have actually texted us on
29:52
our listener line saying, what do you think about the Rex, Ryan
29:55
thing? You know, sorry, but it's just
29:57
none of that stuff. Makes any sense.
30:00
There is no reason Tom. Brady would come here.
30:03
He's going to go someplace is going to go someplace where you
30:05
can win. Like maybe the Raiders in
30:08
actuality the guy just retired. Just I didn't want us to give up
30:13
a draft pick for Sean. Payton.
30:14
We'd have to give a first round pick.
30:16
So we're just handing draft picks out.
30:19
Candy, we just gave up to third rounds, for Carson, Wentz.
30:23
And you talked about offensive line, to me, we got a draft
30:26
offensive, lineman, those guys you can get out of college and
30:30
have them instantly contribute, if you're doing a good job and
30:34
you're picking the right guys. So hopefully that's a mighty
30:39
big. If bro, I would rather do that
30:42
because looking at offensive, lineman free agents.
30:45
Okay, you've got Orlando Brown jr.
30:47
He's the top left. Go out there, you've got Rodney
30:50
Hudson, who's a center and Orlando, Brown Juniors,
30:54
contracts sixteen point, six million dollars, Rodney Hudson
30:58
ten million dollars for the Cardinals.
31:01
You know, just you've got a bunch of these guys and you need
31:05
to beef up your interior of your line.
31:07
So looking at the guard on her, Justin peer, who's 32 years old,
31:13
nine million dollars. I'm sorry.
31:15
I just, I don't want to give that kind of cash.
31:19
Out of 32, you have available on a yearly basis on some old reach
31:23
red line. And for smaller guy at least
31:25
Orlando, Brown is only 26, but you can get some good Lyman,
31:30
whether it's the first round, second round, there's draft
31:33
which we haven't invested it. And rumor is they're going to
31:36
move, Sam, Cosby and to guard versus tackle.
31:40
So you're going to have to revamp that entire thing.
31:43
I don't want to bring in a quarterback that isn't going to
31:48
do any good. Good because we're spending all
31:51
that money and we have no one up front.
31:52
The block for him so I would rather see what we got in hell
31:55
and bring in a cheap backup quarterback.
32:00
That is not Taylor heinicke to back Howell up and give Hal a
32:05
chance because he does have legs and he can use in.
32:09
Okay, no pun intended. Yeah, I know, I got that song
32:13
stuck in my head but man, so Let me get you a let me get your
32:20
take on. Obviously, you know, Cosby is a
32:24
good guy with a lot of hot guys. We've been down this road with
32:28
these injuries, and, and granite Lyman are hard.
32:33
Not hard to come by but Lyman get hurt.
32:37
They just do. It's a part of their job almost.
32:42
They just happens because guys are running after back, guys are
32:46
pulling and and you see guys it rolled up on the hole.
32:51
My yard. So would you say you go with
32:55
maybe one or two veterans and you draft the rest of the guys?
33:00
Is that what is that? What you do?
33:02
I want to pick up some veterans that are cheaper and see if you
33:06
can get some guys out of the draft.
33:09
And you have, you still have a West Schweitzer on your team.
33:14
You still have a Sam cosme on your team, you've got to set the
33:17
Charles. Yes, guys are going to get hurt.
33:20
They're going to get banged up. But you cannot replace eight,
33:24
nine. Offensive lineman talking about
33:26
depth but you need a center Chase Rudy a has not been
33:30
healthy for multiple years and it's not working with him.
33:34
Right now, it's nothing against Chase, it's just his contract is
33:39
what it is and I'm trying to look at his cap number for next
33:42
year. Next year he set to make 12
33:47
million dollars, they can cut him Post June 1 and that'll be a
33:53
four million dollar cap number versus the 12 million dollar cap
33:56
number. And I'm not advocating for
33:59
someone to get cut losses job, but if you look at it, it's just
34:03
it's a numbers game. He sets to make 14 million
34:07
dollars in 2024. I just don't think that you can
34:10
count on Chase, Ruby. I think you've got to do
34:13
something else at Center. Good news.
34:15
Is he still under contract? But I can see him being a cat
34:18
casualty because they can easily.
34:20
Ali. Get out of his number
34:22
potentially. So you know, where do you get
34:25
that center from? What do you do?
34:27
Rush white sir has played center but he's not a good one.
34:31
Is there. One of the drafts will look
34:33
later as it starts. Getting closer towards draft
34:35
time, but offensive line, you can pay those guys less to do
34:43
something. But that means you have to draft
34:46
good guys. In the problem is, you know, we
34:48
drafted bad offensive. Lineman in the past that just
34:51
aren't even on this roster anymore.
34:54
That's what I was getting at. Do you trust our guys, to be
34:58
able to drab? I've done a decent job.
35:01
They've done a decent job in the middle rounds.
35:04
You know. Brian Robinson.
35:05
Jr. You know, cam current they've
35:07
done a decent job there. The problem is they haven't hit
35:12
home runs with the earlier picks.
35:14
At that point, the guys should be Stars Jamin.
35:17
I'm sorry. But that first year he was here
35:20
was a wasted year and the first score of the season was a wasted
35:26
season. Your 19th pick overall in the
35:28
draft should be a instant starter, there should be no
35:32
question about it but they know yes knows how to hunt.
35:36
Just just goes out there and does what needs to be done.
35:39
If you're the Kansas City Chiefs, and you've got studs
35:42
everywhere and you don't have To plug them in instantly then.
35:46
Okay you can take a project with your first round pick.
35:50
We can't afford a project and luckily Jehan doesn't look
35:55
project. He looks legit.
35:57
He looks like a terry cloth but for me to, you know, say that's
36:03
official. He's got also play 17 games.
36:06
He's got a tough, it out, actually able to do it because
36:08
there's a thing playing hurt or actually being hurt.
36:12
I'm not saying he was faking her this and that, but at a Point.
36:15
You know you start to wonder with different guys.
36:18
Are they really banged up there? Yeah.
36:20
You know and like whole Antonio Gibson thing can you play
36:24
through that pain because Brian Mitchell likes to say one of
36:27
your best abilities is availability.
36:30
Hmm you do no good for me. If you had all the talent in the
36:33
world but you're an active on game day.
36:37
All of our picks are going to have to go back to Blackjack,
36:41
going to have to be an Ace and a face car bro.
36:44
We're going to have to hit 21 almost in every single round man
36:50
and that's going to be hard to do.
36:52
It really is I just wonder, do they have the vision for it?
37:01
You know who now is making our pics?
37:03
Because I remember back in the day we I can't think of his name
37:06
but he was the college Scout. And is he still the college
37:11
Scout? The guy that was dead.
37:12
Did it years passed hors d'oeuvres?
37:14
You're talking about the guy that went to Atlanta Oh, okay.
37:18
Yeah, he's not here anymore and a lot of people were wondering
37:23
what's going on there and it's hard to say if you had a good
37:25
draft or a bad draft until maybe three or four years later and
37:29
those in the DC area have heard this.
37:31
You know, the past couple of days Ron Rivera is once again,
37:35
not at the Senior Bowl. He skipped the Senior Bowl last
37:38
year because it was his mom's birthday.
37:41
I think and his mom did pass away this year.
37:43
He want to spend another birthday with her.
37:45
Sorry. You know what?
37:47
I get it is what it is. I lost my mother years ago if I
37:50
could have an extra birthday. Whether that I knew was going to
37:53
be maybe potentially her last, I would do the same thing, he's
37:57
not the Senior Bowl this year now because he is participating
38:01
in the Pebble, Beach, Pro-Am golf tournament so it's him.
38:06
It's Darius, Rucker, it's Aaron Rodgers.
38:10
It's Alex Smith and the playing golf at Pebble Beach.
38:13
Ron has a house. I think close to the course.
38:16
Out there. So he's not there for the Senior
38:18
Bowl and he did state that he likes to interview these
38:23
players. He likes to talk to these guys
38:26
face-to-face and get a feeling from them.
38:30
What do you feel? How do you feel about?
38:32
Ron not being there at the Senior Bowl?
38:35
Twofold one. That's what you hire your staff
38:41
for. I mean that's 12 I'll look at
38:46
the film and after the golf tournament is over with, I can
38:52
still meet the kid. You know, I can talk to him or
38:55
whatever I need to do. I'm still can't really sit down
38:58
and talk with them after the fact that that's part of being
39:01
the Senior Bowl, as you get a chance at interview chat with
39:04
them hanging out you I'm bring guys in that you're thinking
39:07
about drafting. Yeah, but you don't have that
39:11
type of environment where just give them a ring saying, hey,
39:14
you know, let's just sit down to zoom and talk. well then with
39:18
that being said, then I think that he should have his butt at
39:23
the Senior Bowl. So the entire front office is
39:27
there except for Ron Jack Del Rio's.
39:30
They're Christian, Garcia's there?
39:33
Marty, her knee was there watching all of the, this is
39:36
good news. This is tweet from Nikki
39:37
Giovanni, Allah executive VP of player Personnel.
39:41
Marty Ernie has been in all of the bowline drills at the Senior
39:46
Bowl practice. So he's just sitting there front
39:49
and center watching the entire time.
39:51
Which is good to know. It's just to me the buck stops
39:56
with Robin when it comes to player Personnel.
39:58
So, I'm sorry I'm with you. I would like him to be there
40:03
because we heard him and talked about Carson, and how he looked
40:07
at the tape and the papers and the bleeping analytics and
40:10
everything else. I kind of want him here to see
40:13
the stuff and yes, they can videotape it and they can send
40:16
it to him. But, you know, you love to talk
40:20
about on the show. Body language.
40:22
Yeah. By language of those players
40:25
interacting with each other when it's not being filmed like, how
40:30
are they handling that situation.
40:32
If they messed up on a drill during practice the Senior Bowl?
40:35
How are they taking that in? And yeah, the other coaches that
40:39
he delegates to can take that and report that.
40:42
But this is a make-or-break year for Ron.
40:47
He doesn't do well this year man's getting fired, but he
40:50
knows that already though and he could have the attitude of, you
40:54
know what? Hey man.
40:56
I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do and if I make it, I make it.
40:58
If I don't I don't Que Sera Sera.
41:02
But that right there, shows me the commitment how much you
41:05
actually care about this job, and maybe they should stop
41:09
making coaching contract guaranteeing, maybe they should
41:13
make them performance-based. So these guys can't just Mail it
41:17
in because it's a lame duck year for this man.
41:19
He's making the money regardless.
41:21
Yeah, so maybe I'm gonna go hit golf balls with Aaron Rodgers
41:26
and tell Alex Smith that yeah, sorry, I apologize for
41:30
everything that happens here when you were there, but It's a
41:34
frustrating. It is frustrating.
41:37
And It just like you said, you are the big toe always say that
41:43
you're the big toe and guys follow your lead.
41:46
So what is he doing? Golf for charity or something?
41:50
I don't follow it. So I don't know if I mean what's
41:53
his whole purpose of being there?
41:55
Just because just other than vacation maybe or ironing, he
41:59
has a house at Pebble Beach and I don't know I'm assuming
42:06
there's got to be some type of Of money on the line.
42:10
And it's not like he needs cash, but to me, it's recognition.
42:16
It's getting a chance to be amongst all those people.
42:20
And I'm not a golf guy by any means.
42:22
So I don't know exactly what you get from the program and
42:26
winning. But there's a lot of people that
42:28
are going to be there and he did go interview a candidate today
42:35
for the offensive coordinator job.
42:37
So because he is California. He drove to go interview.
42:42
I'm trying to remember who was, I'm not sure.
42:45
Was it Anthony Lynn? I think it might have been
42:47
Anthony Lynn from the 49ers so because Ron was out there.
42:53
Yeah, he drove to the Bay Area from Pebble Beach to interview,
42:56
Lynn on person, linen person. So he is working while he's
43:00
there. Maybe he got done at the driving
43:02
range and he went down to you know her up to San Fran.
43:06
I don't know where it is on a map out there.
43:08
So that is some good news because a lot of people were
43:10
giving Ron a hard time for right now, it's it's interview season
43:17
for all of these coordinator jobs and you have your
43:21
coordinator position open, but yet you're hitting golf balls
43:24
and you're not meeting with people at the facility right
43:27
now. Yeah.
43:28
You think that you'd be doing any and everything in your power
43:33
to shore up these positions to to do everything and When you
43:38
don't like you said, it makes you feel like, okay, we don't
43:42
feel like you're taking this very seriously.
43:43
Begin with, although you can chew bubble gum and walk at the
43:47
same time. So, Maybe we should give the guy
43:50
a break as he deserved. That is it for you to feel that
43:54
way. Four men were breaking.
43:56
No, you got no brakes. You have not had a winning
43:59
season as a head coach here. I was being sarcastic.
44:03
Oh, I know. But yeah, but no, you're right.
44:05
So so what? He's got to be able to.
44:09
Now see I look at it two ways, man.
44:12
There's one way to look at it, kind of like me, but I'm not
44:15
getting paid millions of dollars to be a head coach.
44:19
This is kind of like my my time to kind of bring it back a
44:23
little bit. Whereas when you're a head
44:25
coach, you're a coach 24/7. You know, 24/7.
44:30
Yeah. Coach head coach and you want to
44:33
best Tyler personal? Yeah.
44:34
You want it. You wanted that title and you
44:36
got it. And now it's almost like man,
44:38
maybe. Did I bite off more than what I
44:40
could chew, you know, or hey, you know, I'm kind of well, this
44:43
is lame duck season for me anyway.
44:45
So hey, I can let my staff Jake are this.
44:48
And I I can do this one thing now, what happens?
44:51
If he plays, but he, but he hits the trail hard running hard
44:56
after the after, you know, Pebble Beach, which he could do.
45:03
Eagle. He could it's just this is It's
45:08
the Optics. It's the fact that you have not
45:12
done well scouting at times, you know, just looking back at
45:18
Carson Wentz and that whole decision and he said, you know,
45:21
that was his decision going through there and knowing that
45:25
this is a make-or-break year for you that you're potentially
45:28
interviewing for a new owner as well.
45:32
But on the flip side, I think there are only four other NFL
45:37
coaches that are at the Senior Bowl.
45:41
Now, with that being said, do those four coaches have all of
45:46
this baggage run as carrying meaning?
45:49
He hasn't had a winning season since he's been here.
45:52
He's had, you know, seven wins seven wins in a twin ends and he
45:58
was on a last year of his deal going through a potential new
46:01
ownership. Well, I mean that's a lot of
46:03
weight to have on your shoulders.
46:05
So if I'm a fan I'm kind of annoyed that he's not there and
46:11
yes you can zoom or you can Skype with these people and talk
46:17
to him on the phone but just like being at the Senior Bowl
46:21
and talking to these players. It's not the same thing as
46:24
opposed to being face-to-face. I have meetings on Zoom all day
46:27
long. Sorry it's not the same thing as
46:30
being face-to-face with somebody.
46:31
It's not and and you just brought up a lot that the guy
46:36
has on his shoulders. I mean, the granite, he wanted
46:38
it, he has it. So maybe this is just his time
46:42
just to do his thing to relax for a second, man.
46:45
I mean, we I have to look at it both ways.
46:50
So if the owner, hypothetically is okay with him doing it then.
46:57
Who am I as a fan to say that? I'm not, yes, I want the best
47:01
for the team. Mmmmm but I'm also I also know
47:04
that. Yeah man, I got to have a mental
47:06
break to every once in a while and this was unfortunately my
47:09
mental break and it coincided on the same date.
47:12
So as a fan, no, we want him to have his nose in the books right
47:16
now, where wherever there's action, he needs to be, I get
47:19
that. But on the flip side of that I'm
47:23
like, hey, you know what, man, I got a lot of pressure on me.
47:25
And so this is my one time to relax.
47:27
And after this, I'm gonna hit it hard almost for battle break.
47:30
I need Now, from this team, I am unbelievably frustrated with
47:36
them with the things that they've got going on with us as
47:40
a fan base. Being in limbo with how their
47:43
dog, just Saint season tickets in everything else, you know,
47:46
and we'll talk about next week. It'll be tomorrow one year
47:51
officially that we've been the Washington commanders.
47:54
So, out of this whole year ago, what happened?
47:58
We are the Commander's I gotta add that drop.
48:01
Without the haha at the end. But, you know, it's just Now is
48:07
when all the teams are interviewing coaches,
48:11
everybody's trying to get those candidates.
48:13
So wouldn't you want to get the best coordinator?
48:17
You possibly can and have them come in.
48:20
Send out Snyder. One the Snider's have to private
48:23
jets. Send out one here.
48:25
The west coast and one down south and then have those guys
48:29
fly in and talk to him well but but did technically we don't
48:34
know if that's not happening. We We can speculate but I don't
48:39
want to speculate. We don't know if that's not
48:41
happening, are not how they interviewing with Ron's.
48:43
Not in the door, they can sin, they can spin Commander one to
48:50
Pebble Beach. They can send it somewhere else
48:53
that I wore a you're right? We don't know.
48:57
Or as I said man we don't know who's technically down there.
49:01
Playing golf with them right now or not.
49:03
We don't know. But as I said before, This could
49:07
be. Hey, mr.
49:08
Snyder. This is a mental break for me.
49:11
I need this mental break, but after this mental break, I'm
49:15
going to hit it hard. And if the owner has can say,
49:19
all right, now, bro, you need to you need to be back here at
49:24
FedEx field or in Ashburn or whatever.
49:25
Have you getting it done? I'm sure he can heat.
49:28
We all have a boss, so he could have said that punched out, man.
49:32
I really think his boss has punched out.
49:35
The fact that Dan wasn't at the Commander's Cowboys game.
49:40
Says a mouthful I think he's punched out.
49:43
I think he is put this team up for sale.
49:47
He's letting Bank of America go through all these different
49:50
suitors and diligence. Yeah, he has moved his address
49:55
to London. You know, these are all facts
49:57
and stuff that's been out there, you know, it's just, I don't
50:00
think he cares and the football operations Ron handles that and
50:05
they just let him do it as he is, because he's under contract.
50:08
So they're paying him no matter what.
50:10
So do you think that the new coach should have all of the
50:16
power that Ron has helped know zero chance?
50:20
I want a general manager in here and I want the general manager
50:24
to hire the coach. You know, we've talked about it
50:27
time and time again, a coach's job is to win week to week, and
50:32
that season, a general manager has to look years down the road
50:37
and set you up. You cannot have a general
50:39
manager. Like they have now with Mayhew
50:42
and her knee reporting to the coach because Rivera has final.
50:46
Say, if there is a tie in that room, Rivera has a tiebreaker
50:51
and he will set you up for what he needs to win this season.
50:55
And that's what scares me other than the fact that Rivera and
50:59
Mayhew kept talking about being on a budget, this offseason
51:03
during the press conference, and you have a budget being your
51:08
salary cap, but are you You budgeting yourself on top of the
51:11
budget it's like you got a credit card limit right?
51:15
Your credit card limits. 50 thousand dollars.
51:17
I'm not running my credit card up to 50.
51:18
K. I know what my budget is on top
51:21
that I can actually do. Maybe it's, you know, 5K out of
51:24
that 50 thousand dollar limit. What is Ron's limit?
51:28
The NFL gave him a limit. You know, the new salary cap is
51:32
224 million but is Ron allowed to spend 20 or 24 million.
51:37
You know what's going to happen and Not knowing ownership and
51:41
that's why I'm so frustrated with his team right now, we're
51:43
in limbo, those signing bonuses, those checks that cam, curl
51:47
signing bonus, Dan Snyder's, going to have to write that
51:49
check. It's going to have to come out
51:51
of Dan's pocket. Not the new owner.
51:54
So that's what really concerns me this offseason.
51:56
As what are we going to do? Are we going to miss out on
51:59
locking up camp curl potentially or lock it up Montez?
52:03
Sweat because we got no one to sign that escrow chat.
52:05
I don't know you bring up you bring up a lot of valid points
52:08
bro. And We're going to be in that.
52:12
Wait and see. And that's where we are right
52:16
now. We are wait and see fan base,
52:19
unfortunately, which is why I want to tell them wait and see
52:23
about my season ticket renewal because I don't know what's
52:26
going on with your owner. So I don't know what's going on
52:30
with our free agents. So wait and see when all that
52:33
get settled. And then I'll renew my tickets.
52:36
But you know, just moving past this a little bit.
52:40
You talk about having a mental break.
52:42
There were a bunch of Commanders.
52:44
I was looking forward to a somewhat metal break on the
52:48
Commander's Crews. We mentioned it on a pass show
52:51
that on the whole breakdown of it.
52:53
Well, unfortunately, the Commander's Crews that was sets,
52:56
will set the set sail on March 25th is now cancelled.
53:00
And I know I texted you about this and, you know, I know that
53:05
would never happen with SP events that net but all these
53:08
fans signed up for this cruise, I would love to know how many
53:12
but it wasn't original. Seven-day cruise and it was on
53:17
Royal Caribbean leaving March 25th on the harmony of the Seas.
53:21
Out of Miami coming back April 1st, it stopped in Costa Rica,
53:26
Rohit on Cozumel and Coke, okay? You got to hang out with Doug
53:30
Williams, Dexter Manley, Gary Clark, Joe Theismann, Jordan,
53:34
Reed, Santana, Moss, and more players to be announced later in
53:39
the team partnered up with a company called First Class
53:42
cruises. I'll first class cruises change
53:47
the itinerary, they change the dates, and they change the
53:52
actual cruise line. So, the Commander's out and
53:55
said, out of deep concern for our fans experience, we are in
54:00
the process of canceling. The fan Cruise because of
54:03
significant changes made by first class cruises to the
54:06
original offer, including Cruise Line destination and dates.
54:11
Our fans are our priority and we are working to ensure Sure, we
54:14
can reward those who signed up with a great experience with our
54:17
alumni, to thank them for their loyalty and commitment to our
54:20
team and legends. Cruz is done.
54:26
The abbreviation for that. I can appreciate that letter
54:28
though. I mean, who do I blame?
54:33
Well, being in the travel industry and being a travel
54:38
agent. I can honestly say Ted that I've
54:41
had to send out letters somewhat like that and when we play
54:48
Miami, I was going to have a day cruise to the Bahamas for when
54:54
we played Miami and after reading all the reviews of the
55:01
company that I was Going to go with.
55:04
And I mean, I waited until, you know, the last minute that I
55:08
possibly could because I had I think maybe 50 people booked to
55:14
go on this cruise to the Bahamas, the ratings of this
55:19
place just dropped. I mean, let's just say they
55:22
were, let's say they were 60 to begin with just got of 100 but
55:26
they dropped like 30. So I wound up having to say, you
55:29
know, guys, I don't want to put SB events name on This Cruise
55:33
when it's just not looking good and I had to refund their money.
55:38
So I understand that and a lot of people were mad at me.
55:42
But once I broke it down, kind of that same way they said,
55:46
okay, I don't like it and they did get their money back, you
55:49
know, and they got it back fast. That's one thing about me and my
55:52
company. If we do something to, where we
55:55
have to cancel your, getting your money back within, you
55:59
know, a day or two. So, upon notification of the
56:02
cancellation. So, you know, I can't
56:06
necessarily be mad at the Commander's.
56:08
As long as they, they get the fans, their money back.
56:11
And the money isn't coming from a Camaro.
56:14
Just gonna come for first class. Well, first class, yes.
56:17
Right, you talked about doing research, you talked about
56:21
looking at reviews and checking to see if it was reputable.
56:25
So first class cruises Has had this problem before in 2020.
56:32
They had a cruise with the Philadelphia Eagles, same type
56:36
of experience but with a bunch of cheese steak eating people,
56:39
right? Well, we all know what happens?
56:41
2020, covid hit. So I had a cruise booked in 2020
56:46
covid. Hit couldn't go on the cruise.
56:48
I had an option to get my money back or they could keep my money
56:54
and give me 30% or 40% on. Top of it.
56:59
So, hey, I know I'm going to go on the cruise some time.
57:02
So, keep the money because I already paid for it.
57:05
Wasn't hurting at that point, so I let them have.
57:07
It first-class cruises didn't refund.
57:11
Anybody, they refused to give the money back to all these
57:15
people. So all these Eagles fans, one of
57:17
them Dorothy greenhalgh. They had to go to NBC in
57:22
Philadelphia to complain about first class cruises.
57:26
They had to basically, Way, you know investigative Report with a
57:30
local TV station to try and get their cash back like this
57:34
definitely aside. Huh.
57:35
Yeah. Exactly they refused to give
57:38
them their cash. So finally after all of the
57:41
negative publicity, the Eagles ended up helping get them their
57:45
cash back, right? So that's just one instance from
57:49
these guys. There was another that happened
57:52
pretty covid where there was a family that was set to go on a
57:57
cruise with first-class vacay. Nations they spent over 8,500
58:01
dollars for their Crews. And next thing, you know, it's a
58:05
three weeks before and they had nothing booked, no flights know
58:10
how it's hell, no Cruise, right? So there's the Better Business
58:15
Bureau that's out there. The south Florida Better
58:18
Business Bureau has given First Class Vacations AF grading
58:23
because of their complaints. And this is this is all public
58:26
knowledge. In one complaint filed with the
58:29
BBB on July 25th, 2022 available for all of you on their website,
58:35
talking about this family that spent over 8,500 dollars, the
58:39
Better Business Bureau has 37 complaints filed against First
58:43
Class Vacations and to against first class Cruisers and both
58:48
firms. Have let their licenses expire.
58:52
So you talked about doing research and looking into this
58:57
And knowing that it wasn't good for your brand and good for your
59:01
paying customers to me. That's why I'm a little annoyed
59:06
and it's 50/50. Bland, it's not 100% to First
59:12
Class. The Commander's chose to get in
59:14
bed with these guys. They chose to partner with these
59:17
guys. They just didn't do their due
59:19
diligence, or they did their due diligence and they didn't care
59:23
about the people that were going to be on that boat.
59:26
Like you, Did with your Miami trip, there was just rolling the
59:29
dice because they're getting a good deal.
59:31
Yeah, that's what it, that's what it boils down to and I'm
59:35
here to tell you that for anyone that's listening if you ever
59:38
want to go on a cruise just come talk to me and we can take care
59:41
of that for you but I can tell you one of the things that that
59:46
turn me off by. That whole Crews did was it was
59:48
seven days bro and I can't work 7 days.
59:51
Not that seven-day Cruise has no.
59:53
That's me. That's a minimum I love seven
59:55
days because I feel like five days Just too short now okay.
59:58
Well then I wasn't going anyway so I mean that's just too long
1:00:03
for me. It just is so I'm still trying
1:00:06
to get my mind wrapped around doing it.
1:00:10
Accrues that long. I just I just can't do it that
1:00:13
you know it's like I like my away game.
1:00:16
I called every away game that vacation, you know, because you
1:00:19
leave on Friday and I come back on Monday.
1:00:22
That's all I need. I'm good.
1:00:24
And in the process, I'm moving around doing everything else.
1:00:26
I just feels on a boat, I'm gonna just get.
1:00:29
Uh, I'm just gonna be just once I see the the stern and the bow.
1:00:35
I'm like, okay. What else to see?
1:00:37
Yeah, I think it went. Have you been on a cruise?
1:00:39
I have. So to me I think it just depends
1:00:42
on the boat you're going on. Yeah.
1:00:44
What you got because the last one, I was on, they had a
1:00:47
go-kart track. Oh, they had a speakeasy, a
1:00:50
cigar lounge. They had a Broadway show.
1:00:53
They had a comedian that ended up hanging out with till 3:00 in
1:00:56
the morning. Ordering that had a key to the
1:00:59
bar after a close. We just go back there and just
1:01:01
drink only wanted. I mean on top of all the ports,
1:01:04
you get to go to. So I like it because I feel you
1:01:08
get to see a bunch of stuff. And I don't get fomo and the
1:01:12
food depending on what cruise lines are going on, is going to
1:01:15
be good, and I don't got to worry about ever bring it on a
1:01:17
credit card because it's already paid for, but yeah, I can see
1:01:21
that for some people, but to me this sounded amazing, man,
1:01:24
everyone knows we love this team.
1:01:25
We're we wouldn't be doing In this podcast, if we didn't love
1:01:28
his team so to get to hang out with Joe Theismann and Santana
1:01:32
Moss. I mean I've got to hang out with
1:01:34
those guys the time but to get to hang out with him and this
1:01:36
kind of environment and to be around, you know, Brian Hall,
1:01:40
one of our listeners I know what's going on that cruise.
1:01:42
So get to hang out with Brian and his wife and a bunch of
1:01:45
other fans that I know have been to your rallies.
1:01:47
And I've been to my tailgate would have been a blast.
1:01:51
I just couldn't throw down four thousand dollars for an interior
1:01:55
room on that. Knowing, I can spend that kind
1:01:59
of money and get a butler in a penthouse on any other boat.
1:02:03
So it just was overpriced for me.
1:02:06
But that boat is a nice boat, though.
1:02:08
The harmony of the Seas is nice boat.
1:02:09
Yeah, don't get me wrong but I'm a Norwegian Cruise guys try.
1:02:12
And, you know, they got some nice boats and I went on,
1:02:16
they're not top of the line last time, but maybe second right
1:02:20
below that. Hmm.
1:02:21
And I spent less on that for a butler and A 24-7 concierge and
1:02:29
a penthouse suite and all this other stuff that it would it
1:02:31
cost me for an interior room. So, yeah, you know, it's just I
1:02:36
feel bad for those fans that through that cash down and that
1:02:40
we're looking forward, that mental breaker that escaped that
1:02:43
you were talking about earlier. That.
1:02:45
Now don't get it. And, you know, they still can't
1:02:49
go then. Even though, even though trash.
1:02:52
Yeah, actually, yeah, I was going to say that they consider
1:02:55
a change boats. So, Our change boats to so,
1:02:58
yeah, yeah. To just cancel the entire thing
1:03:00
I'd be pissed off about that because G will be said on
1:03:03
Harmony of the seas. Oh, yeah.
1:03:05
And the cruise line is saying that they're still trying to
1:03:08
work things out, and it's team said, you change boats, you
1:03:12
change that tender as you change dates, it's a breach of
1:03:14
contract. This cruise is done.
1:03:17
Yeah, so should at that point, they should.
1:03:20
I just, I've done work with the Commander's, then the Redskins
1:03:24
in the past, and in the past, They didn't like to pay for
1:03:28
services, right? They wanted to trade and give
1:03:32
you a sweet versus giving you your actual payment because the
1:03:38
sweet doesn't cost them anything, right?
1:03:40
So to me, I feel like they are trying to get a good deal here
1:03:43
and when your fans are concerned.
1:03:46
So, Penny pinch, don't do that. We deserve what we're paying for
1:03:53
and we deserve you to look out for us and that's kind of what I
1:03:56
wish that they would. Do in regards to this and it's
1:03:59
just it's a lot of stuff man. We haven't got our season ticket
1:04:02
renewal present from 2022, and they're already trying to get us
1:04:05
between 20 and 30, you know? But hey, the probably got a good
1:04:09
deal on those Jersey. The supposed to be sending us,
1:04:12
maybe we'll get them next year. Well, the jerseys coming from, I
1:04:19
don't know if my family is making it in the Philippines, or
1:04:22
I might just be able to add them.
1:04:23
FedEx, it to me. There you go, man.
1:04:26
But if you signed up for season tickets last year, you were
1:04:29
supposed to get a customized Jersey Jersey, this football
1:04:33
season. Well, tomorrow's going to be one
1:04:35
year since we've been the Commander's still, when I got my
1:04:38
jersey, what was it? Like the first 200 or something
1:04:40
like 500 and like that? Yeah, it's upsetting, wasn't
1:04:42
everybody. It was a small subset of fans
1:04:45
that were renewing that we're supposed to get them.
1:04:48
Still. Don't got it man in the mail,
1:04:49
bro. Yeah, I'm sure it is.
1:04:52
I can literally, I can see the stadium right now.
1:04:55
I saw my window, I can go pick it up, they know I can, they're
1:04:59
stitching, it would like there's a blind knot.
1:05:02
There are some players. Just trying to stitch it and get
1:05:03
it right? I guess.
1:05:04
Hey, there's no fun at picking it up at the stadium and all the
1:05:07
shocking Oz when it comes to the mailbox, Mana, you open the
1:05:10
mailbox and you see it. That's where the One is, so keep
1:05:14
looking red. Keep looking see to me, that's
1:05:16
trash man. It's looking at my camera
1:05:19
waiting for a porch pirate, to take my jersey.
1:05:22
I've been waiting for for over a year so I'd rather pick it up at
1:05:25
the state, okay. I can get our Seventeen dollar
1:05:28
chili dog with fries but but you may get a five dollar off coupon
1:05:32
for fanatics on the back of the I'll probably do.
1:05:39
They do they listen to that idea?
1:05:40
I mean I don't come up with very good ones every often but that
1:05:44
was a good idea gonna get ya. I was a rock star idea and I
1:05:48
actually I did have a conversation with them last
1:05:50
week. It wasn't about that.
1:05:51
It was about something else but if they're missing out and you
1:05:54
guys don't know what we're talking about, go back to last
1:05:56
week's episode, hit the end of it, and rally came up with a
1:05:59
fantastic idea to get FedEx fans, fans of fnatic sports book
1:06:05
out there. Kyle it.
1:06:06
Well, joint thing with the team store.
1:06:08
So make sure you go get a chance enough.
1:06:10
Go back up on that one. Yep.
1:06:13
But hey maybe we'll just all get a pontoon and go around on like
1:06:17
an ER or something together. Since we all can't go on at
1:06:20
Harmony of the Seas, pontoons are fun.
1:06:23
They are man. And you know we can bring a
1:06:26
bunch of beers on so I'm good with that.
1:06:28
You pilot it, I'm down for that. That's fine.
1:06:32
We can make it happen, man. I think I'll make it happen.
1:06:35
Hey man, it's been a pleasure. Ted always talking to you man
1:06:38
and everybody listening. Thank you guys for listening and
1:06:41
we're gonna see you next week. Rip it hard.
1:06:45
I don't rip it at all. Really Captain tailgate.
1:06:49
Ted