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Jeff Legwold previews Broncos Training Camp with Moser, Lombardi and Kane 7-30-26 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Right, let's set out to the ramos Law hotline car accident.
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  Speaker 1: on en route to it.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, Leggy, I'm on premises on who talks today.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea Denver Broncos players.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, Jeff, with camp opening up here. One
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  Speaker 1: of the things that we were talking about earlier in
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  Speaker 1: the show, the Broncos last year ranked twenty ninth in
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  Speaker 1: the league in a category that's got to change, and
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  Speaker 1: it was twenty five percent of their drives ended in
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  Speaker 1: three and outs. What do you think is the bigger
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  Speaker 1: reason for that? Is a lack of a running game?
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  Speaker 1: Is it lack of execution from bow Nicks on third down?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's two years in a row. I mean
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  Speaker 2: the year before they were I believe they were twenty
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  Speaker 2: six or twenty seven. So they've been near the bottom
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  Speaker 2: down near the non playoff teams in that category. You know, uh,
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  Speaker 2: they haven't been that low in scoring and and they
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  Speaker 2: you know, they're they're middle of the pack and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of other metrics. But what that tells me is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it takes a lot of possessions for them
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  Speaker 2: too to wind things up. And I think that is
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  Speaker 2: all part of why Davis Webb is is the play
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  Speaker 2: caller now is they I think some of that they
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  Speaker 2: attribute to you know, pacing, they're not they're not doing
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  Speaker 2: well enough at the line of scrimmage because they don't
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  Speaker 2: get to play in fast enough that type of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, the run game after Dobbins was injured especially,
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  Speaker 2: you know, went from you know, top five, top six,
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  Speaker 2: top seven down into the you know, the bottom third
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  Speaker 2: of the league. So I think those two elements are
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  Speaker 2: what caused you to have to have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: possessions to make things happen. And that's just not the
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  Speaker 2: company owned be in, you know, in that category, because it's, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you're just wasting a quarter of your possessions. Uh, you
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  Speaker 2: don't even get a first down.
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  Speaker 3: Jeffery yesterday, the word about Jonathan Cooper at camp, at practice,
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  Speaker 3: going through his workouts like everybody else until the NFL
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  Speaker 3: issues some type of legislation here if it's not Jonathan
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  Speaker 3: Cooper and it's a I don't know undrafted rookie or
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  Speaker 3: a special teamer. Is he even on the team right now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Vick, I don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you always know that there's more leeway the more talented
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  Speaker 2: you are, and it's always been that way. That isn't
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  Speaker 2: a new breaking news bulletin there, you know, it's that's
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  Speaker 2: always been the case. But it is a bit surprising.
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  Speaker 2: You know, this is this ownership group's first real test
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  Speaker 2: of how they're going to handle things, and they've they've uh,
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  Speaker 2: they've talked about a very eyebar and all of those things,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it does leave them open for questioning.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't uh, this this is not a camp.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like we're gonna hear from Greg Penner anytime soon.
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  Speaker 2: You know, uh, a couple of years ago, he spoke
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  Speaker 2: on the first day. So uh, you know, hopefully they
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  Speaker 2: they sort of give the framework of what they're thinking.
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  Speaker 2: They've they've had Sean Payton out there saying, you know,
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  Speaker 2: where the team is just following the protocols of of
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  Speaker 2: the League office, and you know that's that the that
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  Speaker 2: the legal process is still ongoing and all of those things.
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  Speaker 2: But uh, you know, the team can do anything at once.
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  Speaker 2: Uh in terms of you know, discipline now, you know,
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  Speaker 2: could it be challenged by the players union, maybe they
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  Speaker 2: maybe they fear grievance you know down the road, maybe
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  Speaker 2: they fear some kind of you know, arbitration or something
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  Speaker 2: because they're they would be denying someone the opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: work who you know, hasn't been convicted or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: But I think an awful lot of people were surprised
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  Speaker 2: that they didn't take the stance they took in mini camp,
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  Speaker 2: which was he was excused. But I think there were
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  Speaker 2: a lot of options for them, you know, that he
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  Speaker 2: could have been in the building and been in meetings,
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  Speaker 2: but not practice. I think you can, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: there's all sorts of ways to figure that out if
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  Speaker 2: you're the team. But I will say just from my
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was out here most of the day
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  Speaker 2: yesterday and I'm out here now, But in my interactions
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  Speaker 2: with people outside of sort of the football world, I
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  Speaker 2: think an awful lot of people were surprised.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Leaguwold with us. All conversations with Legyar brought to
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  Speaker 1: you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers ib e
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  Speaker 1: W Local sixty eight start with a job and with
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  Speaker 1: a career leggy across the NFL. You've had a few
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  Speaker 1: guys that already go go down with what seems to
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  Speaker 1: be season ending injuries. How much do coaches sort of
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  Speaker 1: dread this time where yeah, you aren't totally going one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent quite yet as you open up camp, but
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  Speaker 1: you aren't going quicker and faster than you have over
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  Speaker 1: the last few months, and that could lead to some
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  Speaker 1: of these injuries. How do coaches deal with that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, you can, right, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think you're sort of at the mercy of state almost
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  Speaker 2: you know, this this league especially, you can do. You
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  Speaker 2: can take all the precautions you want, and you're still
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  Speaker 2: going to have to deal with, uh, you know, some
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  Speaker 2: kind of injury situation before you get out of camp.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I think coaches accept it. They don't
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  Speaker 2: like it, they do, They do sort of cross their
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  Speaker 2: fingers and hope for the best. Now, you know, here
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  Speaker 2: Sean takes a little different approach than a lot of teams.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he chooses to do far more conditioning in
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  Speaker 2: the offseason workouts than a lot of teams too. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of teams go right to the to the football
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  Speaker 2: specific drills within a couple of weeks. The Broncos stay
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  Speaker 2: in full conditioning two or three weeks longer than most teams,
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  Speaker 2: and he believes that helps. And I think he even
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  Speaker 2: even though he's one of the veteran old school coaches,
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  Speaker 2: I think he likes these acclamation practices because it kind
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  Speaker 2: of keeps you out of the gearing up too fast
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  Speaker 2: issues coaches may have had in the past. There's not
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  Speaker 2: much you can do about some of it. And I
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  Speaker 2: think if you're going to coach in the NFL, you
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  Speaker 2: sort of have to accept that you're going to get
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  Speaker 2: your round of bad luck at some point, and you
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  Speaker 2: just got to be ready to sort of deal with
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  Speaker 2: that matter.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Leggy, there is always, seemingly every year that Sean
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  Speaker 1: Payton's been here, some sort of New Orleans connection. Is
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  Speaker 1: it too easy for me just to be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, welcome to the Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: I think everybody's wondered that since he got here, Like
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  Speaker 2: you know, every time that that roster spots and question
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  Speaker 2: all of those things. You know, I think if they
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  Speaker 2: did something like that, they're you're gonna have to get
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  Speaker 2: rid of somebody who's invested a lot of time in
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  Speaker 2: and has you know, probably ready for more more playing time,
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  Speaker 2: So that that's the consideration you're making with the team
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  Speaker 2: they have here. Uh, this isn't I mean, you guys know,
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  Speaker 2: I look at the depth shot. Where are the position
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  Speaker 2: battles in this training camp? I mean they they're locked everyone.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at it right now. You you are so right,
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  Speaker 3: like every starting spot looks locked up.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they've got sort of pseudo competent. You know,
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  Speaker 2: are they gonna let John A. Barn push Riley Moss?
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  Speaker 2: You know you're gonna let Alex Bolcewski push Ben Powers
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  Speaker 2: at the one guard spot? But that's about it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you're signing somebody he's got a long history with,
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  Speaker 2: you're not just signing the player. You've got to move
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  Speaker 2: aside somebody else. You had plans for a lot of snaps,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't I'm not sure that's fits, but I
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  Speaker 2: never say never when it becomes a former Saint and Sean.
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  Speaker 3: Pay Last week you talked a lot about Caleb Lohner.
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  Speaker 3: How you expect him to be the talk of camp
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  Speaker 3: and he's not there? What's wrong with them?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he had a he had a foot injury in
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  Speaker 2: the off season, so he's still winding up back that
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  Speaker 2: the fact they didn't open him on on pup tells
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  Speaker 2: you he's on track to get back in practice. Here,
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  Speaker 2: I said, I hope they use him, you know, I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not confident yet but that they will. But I
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  Speaker 2: would I would hope they do because other players, So
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  Speaker 2: we're telling me in December that that guy's ready to play,
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  Speaker 2: and they have difficulty covering them in the red zone.
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  Speaker 2: So when when players tell you that, I would think
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  Speaker 2: a guy should get some snaps in some games.
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  Speaker 3: Well, six foot seven with the thirty nine inch vertical
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  Speaker 3: leap basketball background, God, he could be a great dunk
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  Speaker 3: hoop teammate. You think they're very valuable in the red zone.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, could you play for the Nuggets too?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, maybe that's a maybe that's a possibility. Now.
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  Speaker 2: But are they there? Are they the only team in
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  Speaker 2: the second apron? That is that the issue right now?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, they're in the second apron and my my budget
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  Speaker 3: right now is currently in the second apron because I
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  Speaker 3: had to put on payment on my daughter's wedding. So
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  Speaker 3: I am I'm actually in the fourth apron.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've permanently lived in like the eighth apron
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  Speaker 2: whatever that is, okay, but I got issues like you brought.
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  Speaker 1: Up a name though, And I do find this interesting
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  Speaker 1: look when you this team has and had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of first round draft picks since George Peyton has taken over,
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  Speaker 1: because they've given them away for coaches and quarterbacks. But
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  Speaker 1: the few that they've used, they got patsri Tan and
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  Speaker 1: they got Bo Nicks, and they got Johnny Barron. And
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  Speaker 1: it's year two for a first round pick who's twentieth overall.
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  Speaker 1: Everything that we hear out of their camp is Johnny
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  Speaker 1: Barron's exactly what we thought he would be. He's great,
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  Speaker 1: But how does he get on the field. And what
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  Speaker 1: are you going to do with a first round pick
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  Speaker 1: that in year two might be fourth on the depth chart?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I he'd be playing for most teams' that's the
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  Speaker 2: issue here. You got one of the best defenses in
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  Speaker 2: the league. Riley has probably advanced a little more and
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  Speaker 2: better than maybe they thought he would. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think you got to credit Riley Moss for some
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  Speaker 2: of us because he When you talk to other personnel
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  Speaker 2: people around the league, I mean here, everybody's got sort
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  Speaker 2: of their opinion on it, but flags or no flags,
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the league sees an aggressive man corner
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  Speaker 2: who is willing to line up snap after snap with
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  Speaker 2: the same intensity, and that's a rare fine. So a
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  Speaker 2: lot of it is just sort of Riley Moss's you know,
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  Speaker 2: ability and his improvement. But you know, chad Ay Barron
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  Speaker 2: was a top ten player on my board that year.
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  Speaker 2: There's no question. That's what you do. That's the value
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  Speaker 2: you take when the Broncos draft. That's what good teams
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  Speaker 2: do is you want good players stacked on top of
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  Speaker 2: each other. It says, you know, good to have a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of starters and then this big gap to your backups.
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  Speaker 2: So they're happy with them, you know they will when
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  Speaker 2: it comes time they want to resign them. Here and
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  Speaker 2: he's going to play in a variety of packages. But
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  Speaker 2: it's not Chaddy Baron's fault. Riley Moss got really good
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  Speaker 2: and uh, you know that's a that's a tough one.
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  Speaker 2: Now you know Riley's up, you know Riley's deals up soon.
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  Speaker 2: So this this is how you have yourself if you're again,
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  Speaker 2: if you're a good team, if you're not able to
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  Speaker 2: resign Riley Moss. You go right to a guy you
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  Speaker 2: think is as good. So I think he gets on
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  Speaker 2: the field, and I don't think it's an indication right
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  Speaker 2: now that he's not a good player or any of
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  Speaker 2: those things. I think it's anything. But he got drafted
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  Speaker 2: by a good team that's probably the deepest at that
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  Speaker 2: position of of anybody in the league.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're so right on that, and it's it applies
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  Speaker 3: to every sport, right. It's why when young rookies joined
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  Speaker 3: the Nuggets when they were a championship contender, they didn't
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  Speaker 3: get a chance to play here where Otherwise they'd play
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  Speaker 3: great minutes at another place. And it's just part of
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  Speaker 3: the part of the deal of playing for a loaded team.
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  Speaker 3: You have to wait your turn and that where they are. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: before we let you go, Leggy, new game. Uh just
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  Speaker 3: came up with it today. Uh. And the game is
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  Speaker 3: called what did he say? It's Mark Moser trying to
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  Speaker 3: just execute a basic sentence on this show. Let's see
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  Speaker 3: if you can translate what Moser says. You're go ahead,
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  Speaker 3: rolling Nelly. You know what? Actually there, the Giants have
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  Speaker 3: a history of doing stupid crap like that. What's the
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  Speaker 3: the old. What's the was?
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  Speaker 1: It was?
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  Speaker 3: It was the coach, former coach Moser. That's Moser, Leggy,
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  Speaker 3: what did he say?
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm trying to gauge what giants he needs first, Huh.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta find what sport you know of
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  Speaker 2: the Giants he's talking about, and then I can try
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  Speaker 2: and figure out what coach he's talking about.
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  Speaker 3: We'll give you one more, Sean Nelly, I know that's
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  Speaker 3: hard on the first tribe. What did Moser say?
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  Speaker 1: Here?
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  Speaker 3: You know what? Actually there the Giants have a history
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  Speaker 3: of doing stupid crap like that. What's the old? What's
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  Speaker 3: the was?
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  Speaker 1: It was?
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  Speaker 3: It was the coach, former coach, what's the former coach? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: There it is.
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  Speaker 3: He was just trying to say the former Giants coach Brian.
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  Speaker 2: David No, that's uh. That can be a tough that
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  Speaker 2: can be a tough ass. And you're trying to and
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to dig that out. I can't really say
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  Speaker 2: much because I have my moments in the in the
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  Speaker 2: media room out here where somebody will ask me about
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  Speaker 2: something from twenty seasons ago and they have to watch
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  Speaker 2: me work through it.
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  Speaker 4: Speak speaking the media room, what was your reaction yesterday
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  Speaker 4: when d Max showed up, parks his bike in there,
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  Speaker 4: takes off his sweaty clothes in shoes, and treats it
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  Speaker 4: like a YMCA locker room.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I just figured he he parked a few blocks
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  Speaker 2: away and rode in to make it look good.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's pretty smart, uh.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lakewell joined us every single Thursday. Always appreciate it
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  Speaker 1: like you, thank you about it.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Bell, Let's well say it.
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  Speaker 1: Jef lag Well at ESPN dot com