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3 Guys Before The Game - WVU Football Ben Cutter Visits (Episode 726) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what's up. It is time for three Guys before
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: the game. Welcome in everybody. This is the summer series continuation.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: And I keep forgetting whether I've said this before.
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  Speaker 2: I have not said it.
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  Speaker 1: I've never said this. We have a good one for you.
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  Speaker 1: WVU linebacker Ben Cutter is our special guest on Three
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: Guys Before the Game? What's going on in the world
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  Speaker 1: of Mountaineer football in this quote unquote offseason, but really
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  Speaker 1: isn't an offseason anymore because the season never ends.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't then just get here like it seems like he
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  Speaker 3: just got.
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  Speaker 1: He either just got here or he's in his eighth year.
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  Speaker 1: One of the two played as a baby. He played
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  Speaker 1: like he was a baby when he started playing. So
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  Speaker 1: it does seem like you've been around.
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  Speaker 4: And still here.
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  Speaker 2: That's what.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get We're gonna get it all into that.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. Three guys before the game.
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know why.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you immediately take a shot right now.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying that. It's Tom passes quickly. And I
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  Speaker 3: remember when Ben was playing as a young guy, Go oh,
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  Speaker 3: who's the new guy? And now he's the old guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how it works in a world where there
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  Speaker 1: aren't any old guys anymore.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of like a dinosaur like keeping around for
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  Speaker 5: another year.
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• 2:18
  Speaker 1: Summer series moving quick man, like it is moving like
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  Speaker 1: summer's over.
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  Speaker 4: Only a couple left.
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  Speaker 2: He just took your line. He just he stole your line.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's just a couple more weeks before he
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  Speaker 5: can say it's over.
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  Speaker 4: But yes, now he's done. Now he just let you
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  Speaker 4: took his mind that he went all the way to
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  Speaker 4: the other side. He said it was over in February.
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  Speaker 5: I know, Ben.
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  Speaker 1: Basically what I say is this after June twenty first,
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  Speaker 1: as you well know, day start getting shorter. After June
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  Speaker 1: twenty first is the longest. You knew that, right, you
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  Speaker 1: knew that. I say, as soon as they start getting shorter, basically,
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  Speaker 1: summer's over and it's pretty much winter. Right, you're in agreement,
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  Speaker 1: he's he's.
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  Speaker 2: I don't disagree.
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  Speaker 4: In the baseball team still, I think they play next
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  Speaker 4: two days. I played lad in Coastal Carolina game exactly.
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  Speaker 1: That is that is going to be the one thing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the best of it was that they made
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  Speaker 1: it to the College World Series and they played a
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  Speaker 1: long time.
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  Speaker 5: But at the same time, it basically.
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  Speaker 1: Evaporated summer, which is fine. Let's let's have that happen
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  Speaker 1: every single year.
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  Speaker 4: That's how summer evaporates.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in yeah, And as I said when we very
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  Speaker 1: first started, there isn't a summer anymore. Ben joins us
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  Speaker 1: here today literally already practiced this morning, and so like
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't I don't know if you know this, but
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  Speaker 1: it didn't used to be like this. Like back in
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  Speaker 1: the day when coach Rodriguez was a player here, spring
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  Speaker 1: ball would end and coach Nelan, who I'm sure you've
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  Speaker 1: seen around at times, Coach Nelan would say he'd send
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  Speaker 1: them off and he would tell us guys, he would say,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to have a really good things. Look pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: We've got thirty guys that are going to stay here
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  Speaker 1: for the whole summer. And then you know what that means.
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  Speaker 1: That means you have add eighty guys who went home,
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  Speaker 1: and they would give him like a little hand out.
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  Speaker 1: You know, here's a little thing, this is your workout.
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  Speaker 1: And then when they came back in August, the coaches
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  Speaker 1: were like fingers crossed anything cross, hoping they came back
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  Speaker 1: in shape, because like if a dude wasn't doing his
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  Speaker 1: stuff right. And but now you guys like NonStop, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well yeah, as we record, you've already had a practice
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  Speaker 4: and a workout session in today. Yep, yeah, you've already
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  Speaker 4: got after it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, think about this.
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  Speaker 4: Today, got after it good today?
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  Speaker 1: Well you thought you didn't think he was gonna let
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  Speaker 1: you go for a long break without absolutely No, No,
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  Speaker 1: that's not how he rolls. He wanted he wants to leave.
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  Speaker 1: He wants to leave an impression like a tattoo. He
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  Speaker 1: just wants to just remember this so far summer for you.
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  Speaker 1: Let's jump around from an individual standpoint, just your body.
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  Speaker 1: What did you go into January? What did you go
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  Speaker 1: in to off season saying I want to get better
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  Speaker 1: at what.
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  Speaker 2: I would say flexibility, being able to move in space
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  Speaker 2: better open field tackles is something that I've struggled with.
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  Speaker 2: So we got a lot of drills coming around that
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  Speaker 2: we we don't say breakdown, We say, uh, eat up grass,
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  Speaker 2: right because when we say breakdown it kind of makes
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  Speaker 2: you slow down. So we eat up grass on the
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  Speaker 2: way to ball carrier. And we've been doing a lot
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  Speaker 2: of drills with change the direction of open field tackling,
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: So buy a mechanically, if I were to break your
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  Speaker 1: body down, where do they say your weakness is it?
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  Speaker 5: Hips. Is it hams where you flexibility challenged?
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  Speaker 2: Probably hips? Yeah, we're doing some yoga, we are doing well.
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  Speaker 2: You are well. Not necessarily yoga, but heavy stretching.
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  Speaker 5: Can you do it down?
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  Speaker 1: Can you do a downward dog and feet flat and
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  Speaker 1: hands flat? I don't know what to answer, so that'd
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  Speaker 1: be no, that's okay. He can't either.
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  Speaker 5: That's fine.
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  Speaker 1: You can see now think of that dude, and he
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  Speaker 1: didn't used to be able to do one. Now he
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  Speaker 1: can do one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm the least flexible guy in the world animal,
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  Speaker 4: So there's there's hope for you.
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  Speaker 1: You'll get that who's in charge over in the weight
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  Speaker 1: room with flexibility? Like, who's that guy who's Freddy flex
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  Speaker 1: over there?
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  Speaker 2: Jege Parker does a lot of stuff with flexibility. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you can ask that guy anything and he knows how
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  Speaker 2: to stretch certain muscles like ten thousand different ways.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So he's a good guy to.
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  Speaker 5: Have around for that. And do you notice improvement? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: You feel good? Feel bad about it? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Strength wise, If you look at your numbers right now
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  Speaker 1: compared to the when you walked in here as a
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  Speaker 1: true freshman, you just raised right, like, so give me,
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  Speaker 1: give me some of the things like did youmber one,
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  Speaker 1: did you think you were strong when you got here?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? You did?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, when did you have the moment where you
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  Speaker 1: realized you weren't as strong as the most of the guys.
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  Speaker 2: There's so that for me, there's a difference between on
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  Speaker 2: field strength and weight room strength.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So when I got here, I was keeping up with
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  Speaker 2: the team in weight room strength because I worked really
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  Speaker 2: hard in high school. Like all my weight room stuff
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  Speaker 2: was good. But for me, it was when we got
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  Speaker 2: on the field feeling the pressure of a three hundred
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  Speaker 2: pound lineman coming at you. That's you just have to like,
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  Speaker 2: that's technique and it's different. YEA, being able to bench
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  Speaker 2: four hundred pounds like doesn't mean that you can throw
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  Speaker 2: one of those guys off you.
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  Speaker 1: So basically what you're saying is when you're in the
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  Speaker 1: weight room, a bar bell never ran at you, but
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  Speaker 1: when you but when you got but when you got
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  Speaker 1: at you, but when you got on here, it was
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  Speaker 1: like a three hundred pound bar bell is running at you,
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  Speaker 1: and it by going to hit you and try to
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  Speaker 1: push it and hold you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah and hold yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What was the what's your first memory of engaging with
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  Speaker 1: Zach Frasier oh Man situation.
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  Speaker 2: It was a goal line situation.
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  Speaker 5: That's not good because he wanted to score.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they ran some sort of outside zone and
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  Speaker 2: I was lined up in a zero, so I'm head
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  Speaker 2: up on Zach, right on top of him, and as
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  Speaker 2: a zero backer, the center can never cut you off.
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  Speaker 2: You have to get over top of this. Like it's
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  Speaker 2: not even a question, like you're supposed to you know,
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  Speaker 2: Like he got me good?
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  Speaker 5: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: He hit me?
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  Speaker 2: So I was at five yards.
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  Speaker 5: I knew what it meant.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to I'm at five yards. He's the
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  Speaker 2: four yards. We meet at that one in four So
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  Speaker 2: I made one step of progress and he made.
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  Speaker 5: So he has the old momentum.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And he hit me so hard in the
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  Speaker 2: side of my head it was burning. And it was
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  Speaker 2: about like that every time that we met.
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  Speaker 1: Did you fall? Do you go on your back? Did
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  Speaker 1: you He didn't pancake? He didn't pancake.
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  Speaker 2: No pancake.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, think about that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you learned you played against a guy who
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  Speaker 1: is now considered one of the best centers in the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: What a great experience. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Play that out because so you played right away. I
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  Speaker 4: mean you played in every game since you've been here,
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  Speaker 4: So your game in right away, in right away. The
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  Speaker 4: difference is you look back now to that type of
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  Speaker 4: moment thinking maybe you're ready or maybe you didn't think
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  Speaker 4: you were ready, but you're in versus where you are
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  Speaker 4: now as you head into a fourth year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the pace of the game has slowed down so much.
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  Speaker 2: Like when I went out there as a freshman, it
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  Speaker 2: was almost reacting instead of anticipating. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: film study and stuff that I've learned along the way
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  Speaker 2: to help me with that. But knowing what an offense
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  Speaker 2: is going to do and anticipating it helps so much,
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  Speaker 2: not even just technique or mechanics of things, like just
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  Speaker 2: knowing what they're gonna play and then also knowing where
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  Speaker 2: your gap is in a complete understanding of where you
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  Speaker 2: need to be on the field helps so much.
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  Speaker 3: Let's follow up on that, because I think that's a
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  Speaker 3: fascinating part is that when you it seems like linebackers,
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  Speaker 3: you got a lot going on because you gotta because
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  Speaker 3: you got to cover the past, you gotta cover the run.
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  Speaker 3: There's a big offensive lineman coming at you, and in
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  Speaker 3: a short period of time, and in some teams a
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  Speaker 3: really short period of time. You gotta of course, you know,
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  Speaker 3: down in distance, you got to think of you know,
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  Speaker 3: what's the running back formation, where's the tight end, how
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  Speaker 3: the offensive lineman lining up? And then when the ball snap,
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  Speaker 3: the first key is the guard, right, what's the guard doing?
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  Speaker 5: Yep?
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  Speaker 3: So now how quickly do you do that? And then
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  Speaker 3: based on film study, once the ball snap you see
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  Speaker 3: where the guard's going. Do you have a good idea
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  Speaker 3: what the play is?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: So it depends for the team and the coverage on
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  Speaker 2: where my eyes are exactly, Like if we're in a one.
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  Speaker 3: High call, which is explaining cover three, okay, cover three.
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  Speaker 2: And say it's too let's say it's two by two
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  Speaker 2: double split, tighten off the ball running back away. As
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  Speaker 2: a strong hook defender, I know that I have to
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  Speaker 2: fit off of a person. So who's my threat three? Three?
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  Speaker 2: Is the person I have to fit off of. Who's
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  Speaker 2: my threat of three? Right now? The running backs?
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  Speaker 5: Three? But I don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: Be looking at the running ba because he's not a
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  Speaker 2: threat that I need to fit outf soie if I
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  Speaker 2: need to be looking at that tight end, so my
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  Speaker 2: eyes are going to be on that tight end. If
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  Speaker 2: he's I know immediately I'm working downhill and fitting outside
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 4: So all that's going on, by the way, that that
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  Speaker 4: was good that we got right into it right there
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  Speaker 4: that way, we're going calculus.
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  Speaker 3: And then how do you account for because the other team,
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  Speaker 3: the other team also they're doing formation shift, they're trying
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  Speaker 3: to fool you. Oh yeah, so do you recognize the
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  Speaker 3: do you recognize the fools based on film study, or
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  Speaker 3: do you get fooled sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you're not expecting them to motion. But I would
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  Speaker 2: say just having complete understanding of your defense helps you
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  Speaker 2: not get completely fooled when stuff like that happens. Like
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  Speaker 2: motion adjustments, it kind of depends on what you're in,
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  Speaker 2: whether the safeties are spinning or we're in a hard
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  Speaker 2: called coverage and in Cover three, for example, if the
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  Speaker 2: safeties are rotating with speed formation strength, then I can
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  Speaker 2: stay put. If they're not and we're in a hard
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  Speaker 2: called coverage, then I have to adjust with motion and
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  Speaker 2: it changes my gap. So I would say adjusting with
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  Speaker 2: the motion while we're not spinning is harder than.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, you have to Brad, you have
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  Speaker 3: to do all of that after you just came off
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  Speaker 3: of play and you're tired and Someway just clocked you
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  Speaker 3: in the previous play and your head is spinning and
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  Speaker 3: you've got to do all those things.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you said it right. We got deep right there.
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  Speaker 4: But he said it right in the beginning. There's a
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  Speaker 4: lot going on. He's got a lot going on. So
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  Speaker 4: now take it from a Zach Alley defense, right, that's
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  Speaker 4: not the system you started in. What was the hardest
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  Speaker 4: part of that in terms of just picking it up?
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  Speaker 4: And then what's the best part of playing in a
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  Speaker 4: Zach Alley defense.
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  Speaker 2: The hardest part was knowing what everybody's doing. With Zach
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  Speaker 2: Alley's defense, we really have to control like we have
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  Speaker 2: to control the front more than in previous years. It's
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  Speaker 2: more demanding than previous year.
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  Speaker 3: He been staying like, they're just a little bit more.
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  Speaker 2: You're good, more demanding and controlling the front than previous years.
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  Speaker 2: Making sure those guys are set up. Everybody knows what
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  Speaker 2: they're doing. There's more specific checks in coverages. There's not
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  Speaker 2: just like if they line up in FDB, we're mass
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  Speaker 2: checking this, or they line up in empty we're mass
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  Speaker 2: checking this. You have a specific check for every call,
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  Speaker 2: pretty much every every family of calls, you have certain
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  Speaker 2: checks kind of so just the complexity of it is hard.
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  Speaker 2: But once you kind of get past the start of
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  Speaker 2: figuring out, Okay, this is my heck technique in this call,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a hook. In this call, I'm a flat, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm a gap fitter or whatever. Once you
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  Speaker 2: kind of get past that and you start categorizing all
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  Speaker 2: these calls, I do the same thing, all these sets
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  Speaker 2: of calls. I'm doing the same thing, it starts to
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  Speaker 2: get more simple to where you can play faster.
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  Speaker 4: All right, So then where's the advantage created for the defense?
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  Speaker 4: Why is it hard for the offense to go against
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  Speaker 4: this kind of defense disguise?
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  Speaker 2: We disguise every single play, and we have so we
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  Speaker 2: have so many things at the same time, having so
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  Speaker 2: little responsibility. Like we have twenty different calls where I'm
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  Speaker 2: just a hook defender, but all twenty of those calls
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  Speaker 2: look differently, and there's just like a slight difference in
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  Speaker 2: the way we're showing the offense what we want them
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  Speaker 2: to see. So we can really play around and trick offense.
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  Speaker 3: And then you gotta go. You have to go make
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  Speaker 3: the tackle. Or defend the pass, or it's just I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if it's hard for somebody who hasn't played
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  Speaker 3: to fully fully comprehend how complicated it is. You're not
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  Speaker 3: just out there like chasing the ball carrier, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, sometimes you are. Sometimes it's when.
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  Speaker 3: Does it break down? I mean, when does a breakdown?
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  Speaker 3: You go, I'm just going to chase the guy down
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  Speaker 3: like it all broke down. But I gotta go because
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: the guy won.
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  Speaker 5: The ball's thrown in a pass.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, when that ball throne, it's back to high
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  Speaker 2: school football.
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  Speaker 5: He's got it.
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  Speaker 4: I gotta go there.
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  Speaker 2: There's more complexities on leverage and where he's supposed to
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  Speaker 2: force the ball, But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: if it's open field, go get the guy down. You
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: know it's setball that point.
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  Speaker 1: You've played for defensive coordinators. What makes Zach ally different.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: His play calling understanding, Like he breaks down an offense
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  Speaker 2: to the point where he knows exactly what that offensive
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: coordinator is about to call almost every play. Really, Uh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's he's he's a good coach. He's a great coach
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  Speaker 2: in his mind, like the way he explains things, he's
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: a great teacher. He makes everything as simple as he
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: can make it to the point where we feel confident
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  Speaker 2: enough that we can go out there. And he also
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: teaches us what to expect, what to anticipate, how to
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  Speaker 2: play different down in distances, right, you know, more aggressive,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: more conservative, within the same coverage, so that we can
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: be as productive as possible.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Ben's appearance here around three guys before the game is
• 15:55
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• 15:59
  Speaker 1: of WV Athletics, and we certainly thank them along with
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Gold and Blue Enterprises. Rich Rodriguez plays fast, so when
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: those guys crank up jet tempo indie tempo, here you go.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: What has that been like for you as a player.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: It gets a little hectic. But with jet tembo there's
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: less motions, less shifts, stuff like that, so there's less
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: to adjust to. But you have to get your cleats
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: in the ground fast. That's it's It's actually helped me
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: a lot just getting my cleats in the ground, getting
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: the spront set. So by the time we get to games,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: if we're playing a team that's not in tempo, like
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: we're just sitting there waiting for the south the ball.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Otherwise, right, oh, based on what you're seeing in practice.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, helps a lot.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, So obviously, major roster turnover two years ago, major
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: roster turnover this year. What is your sense been working
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: with these guys since they got here in January and
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: being out on the field with them now, what's your
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: sense of where you guys are defensively?
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I think that we're in a very good spot defensively
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: for this season, a lot better than last year. A
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: lot better players and a lot better character from the
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: defense we have. Last year, we didn't have as many
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: leaders stepping up. We had a lot of guys that
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: could play really good, but whenever things got tough, they
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: weren't the highest character. Some of them weren't the highest character.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: And when you have.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: That many guys that can't with stand a hard game
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: or go through hardships and stay level headed, it kind
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: of brings some of the guys that are level headed
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: down with them. This year, we have so many guys
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: that are leader's high character, can really step up and
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: lead whenever things start getting tough, and we're gonna have
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: the guys that are kind of half in, half out
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: rise to that occasion and we're gonna bring them up.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: So are you one of those guys. Yeah, you're one
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: of those. I mean you're one of those. The leader.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I mean you would be expected to be a leader, right, Yes,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: and you are one of those.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, did you he did you expect him to say, no,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I'm meek and I try to run away. I mean,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the guy's a leader. Let me ask you dog count
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: d A w G. How many dogs you think you
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: had on defense last year? How many dogs you think
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you have this year? Did you notice have you noticed
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: an increase in dogs? Definitely more dogs, more dogs.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's all.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: What you just said.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: When it really gets going and you could break one
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: way or the other. The guys that say we're going, yeah,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: not someone that will rip your some.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: Of it will cut you. Just an assassin facing the fan,
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: facing the fan guy.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say Jamier Latimer and Andrew Boudreaux are
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: two of those guys.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Good. Nice to have him back there. Nice to have
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: a couple of dogs.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: They're completely leading that that that secondary on.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Andrew's getting a little love here lately. He's starting to
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: He's starting to hear his name a bunch. Oh yeah,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: he's starting to come.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: He is the strongest that I've ever played with, played with,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: or seen.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: Wait now, wait a second, you played against Zach Frasier
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: pound for pound? Okay, all right, yeah, he's he's elite.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: Just set a record. Is that him that I just
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: saw it?
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Social Clean two or.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Power?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. He's perfect.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: So he's a dog. He's a dog. Okay, mind the dog. Yeah,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: you're a dog.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I'm a dog.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: You're a dog.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Ashton Woods is another one of those guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Jason Hall, he's he's a dog on the d line.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: We got Corey McIntyre's a dog. He's really stepped up
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: That was a really good player here. Yeah.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Uh, Nate Gabriel, he's a really good players.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Familiarnaire. Yeah oh yeah.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Here's another thing. Here's another way to define a dog
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: in my view, and everyone's got their own definition. I
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: think you have to have a certain number of players
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: on a team. Doesn't necessarily have to be twelve, but
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: probably has to be more than eight. We're like one
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: eye goes this way and the other right goes that way. Yeah,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: you gotta have you know what I mean. I mean,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: just just someone like when you look at them, they
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: just like I'm gonna just destroy you. And unless you don't,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and if you don't have those guys, you're not gonna
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: be a good West Virginia defense.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Flip over to the other side. Offensive line wise, this
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: group that you've seen come in, so our expectation is
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: you've got a bunch of different guys. This isn't like
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: one or two that stepped up in the experience category.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: You get a bunch of them, should have some depth.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: What have you seen out of the offensive line. They're
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: way more discipline this year.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I'd say they're lined up fast, iron off the ball
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: every snap, really well coached. And they're mean too.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: We got a lot of We got a lot of
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: mean guys. Dogs are the dogs?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Oh they're doults.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: You room with Nick Crag, who's getting big time love.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: There are now those that strongly believe he'll play in
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the NFL. He's just he he's a blossom.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Friend of this program.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Of course, he did a nice young did a nice
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: job when he was on here. So you can notice
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: when those guys, and again we haven't even got real
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: real football going intol August again, but you can tell.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: It's going to be different.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Absolutely when you need a yard. When you need a yard,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: this year, you're going to get your dinner.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: They're gonna be a harder good to play against four
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: quarters of that. Yeah, people are gonna be hurt.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: You've you've heard, I mean he's on the other side
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: of the ball, but you've probably heard at the other
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: end of the practice field. Coach Trickett coaching young men.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Bring bringing young bringing young lads along, encouraging the young lads. Yeah,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, got a couple of running backs, new faces
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: They'll run by you. Huh yeah, they will.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Gam cook Is is different, I'll tell you that, and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: pretty much all of them. They're all elite athletes and players.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Like we probably have four or five guys in that
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: position that could go start. So it's it's a very
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: deep room.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: They make bodies different nowadays, don't they. You take you've
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: already mentioned Latimer defensively his brother on the offensive, Like,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: how does how is that a freshman?
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Mary does not look like a freshman, right, I mean
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: he looks like you.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: He'll try to run you over and seven on son.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: That's in spring. Pretty bad. We were we weren't even
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: really in bad. So yeah, I like that.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: That's good. I didn't want you to get any you know,
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: jaw injuries or anything. But that's what I like. Let's talk.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Let's talk quarterbacks. We'll just keep you to the first
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: couple of Scotty Fox that we that we know and
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Michael Hawkins has come in.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: What have we seen out of both those quarterbacks? They're
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: both improving a lot, uh from you know, Scotty from
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: last year has improved a lot. I can't really speak
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: for Mike as much because I haven't you know, played with.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Him as long.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: But skill set from Hawkins, I mean we you know
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: what Scotty has and his obviously knowledge of the offense
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: helps him tremendously this year. Hawkins from a just a
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: skill set speed, can throw it, can take off as well.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah he can.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: He can do it all.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he can do yeah, very fast. He's not a
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: guy you want to see an open field.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Got some wiggle to him. To you were, I did
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: some research on you in high school. You ran a
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: bullsome yeah, eight point eight point two yards per carry.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Now last year when they got thin at running back,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: did you raise your hand?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Actually they were recruiting Reed Caarco a little bit to
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: come over and play running back. It was it was
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: kind of in talks. He never really did it in
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: practice negotiations.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Did you not just say a hold on down?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I got this. No, I know my place in the
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: college running back.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: You didn't have to get twenty carries a game, yeah,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: just like two or three.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Room was going through some injuries, old mind.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so get them in there, go line situation.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: That would be great, Tony. You wouldn't love that.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Well last year, the stuff they did early in the
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: season with the formation with all the linemen, Yeah, I
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: liked that.
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  Speaker 1: How many do you have any idea? How many calories
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: you're you're you're doing to day? Are you trying to
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  Speaker 1: have a number?
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like to track it on. How much you
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  Speaker 2: weigh two thirty or twenty eight? Is my way into
• 27:37
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  Speaker 1: Guy, But you don't but you don't try to count calories,
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  Speaker 1: but you know how much you need to eat?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can kind of fill it out throughout the day.
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  Speaker 2: And we're always weighing ourselves to way in every single morning,
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  Speaker 2: if I weigh out around like two twenty three, I
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  Speaker 4: Dinner, which is what you need? A huge dinner. What
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  Speaker 4: are you going with? Well, we have facilities, what do
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  Speaker 4: you great facilities there? What do you like over there?
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  Speaker 4: What do you go with?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: The grilled chicken is always great?
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: How many of those?
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: How many grilled chickens?
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, how many chickens? Just do those? Okay?
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: What side do you go with? Is always a big
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  Speaker 2: one for me. Huh, Rice.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Not a potato guy.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: You go rice. I like the potatoes. Yeah, I'd probably
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  Speaker 2: eat more of the rice than the potatoes.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Stay off the bread, no, no, you go the bread
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: for the bread, yeah, bread pasta.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: When you're going home, because you're gonna go home for
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  Speaker 3: and your mom's going to be thrilled to see. She's
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  Speaker 2: So my mom is a great baker. Oh okay, we
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  Speaker 2: home made. Yeah, they're really good. She makes a great
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can talk about I can talk.
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  Speaker 2: Great cookies. She can make ice cream sandwiches or like this.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what it's called, but some kind
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  Speaker 2: of oreo something amazing frozen treat.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: Is it a frozen type thing with Yeah? Yeah? Yeah.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: So she's gonna when you get home, she's gonna whip
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  Speaker 3: all that up because she's gonna be like.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: She's always asking me what I want? You got a
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: sweet tooth?
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  Speaker 3: Good for you?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: See, but I can't eat a lot of it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, once I just like have a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: Just you just killed five biscuits.
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  Speaker 4: See, we need that, we have zero. We have a
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  Speaker 4: sweet tooth.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: We're looking, we're looking at a food addiction center. We're trying.
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  Speaker 4: We need to go and what I need like you
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  Speaker 4: just eat a little bit of it and you're good
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  Speaker 4: and you back away from the table.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have problems. Our portion control not good, non existent.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like if it's good, we'll just like keep
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  Speaker 1: giving me pounds and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: What about not? What about other things? The main courses
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  Speaker 3: your mom would whip up.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see, she's really good at making chicken m H,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: grilled chicken, fried chicken whatever. Our chicken tenders not necessarily
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: fried chicken, but chicken tenders are good burgers. She makes
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: really good chicken tacos.
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  Speaker 5: To do you think.
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  Speaker 4: Softer hard shell?
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Soft shell? Let's do this. Wait a second. Do you
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: think chicken wings without a bone are actually chicken wings? No?
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: The chicken nuggets of sauce on them.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: Okay, go ahead.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Which doesn't mean they're bad.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Still good.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: He didn't attack them. He just tell me what you were.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Trying to attack, all right, So if you if you
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: had to choose single appetizer, single entree, and a single dessert,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: your choices.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Would be what appetizer will be? Months rel sticks, love
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: mostrel sticks, fried cheese, hard to beat.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: Entree.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I love a good cheese steak.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I love cheeseks.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't see that. Kind of dessert pretty simple.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I like tallet chip cookies a lot.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, standard, hard to beat, jewy or do you like
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: them when you're a little bit hard?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: But favorite dessert would be hot brownie with ice cream.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: On singleoo, single scoop of vanilla on there?
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's good.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Sweet tea.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: What's oh yeah North Carolina? Yeah?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: What's the most weight you'll drop? You weigh in in
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the morning you go out on the field, Let's say
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: August practice, it's hotter and heck you walk back in.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: What will you drop into practice?
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Seven pounds? Well you're really yeah, seven if it's a
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: really hot day.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Seven.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Usually it's around three or four. But some of those
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: big guys will lose like ten pounds.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Oh sure, What did you know about rich Rodriguez before
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: was named the head coach?
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: How much?
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's much amazing for the youth. I mean, you're young,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and so you wouldn't have even known. So you hear, okay,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: well let's go through that. You there's a coaching change.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're told, hey, just chill out, we're gonna
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: get a good coach. Right who Who did you first
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: hear that it was going to be rich? And then
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: how did the process begin where you're going like, okay,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: who is this dude?
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: What do I need to know?
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Well, when we heard it was rich, we just heard
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: it was gonna be hard. Pretty much really much else that.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Need to be said.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: You're about to go through some pain, but you're gonna
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: be a really great player because and have a good team.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: So I'm all about that. I love building you know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: character through hard workouts, building camaraderie through going through hard
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: things together. So that's my He's my kind of coach.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Did how animated was he the first team meeting? Did
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: he go first team meeting where you went like holy hell?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Or did it take a little bit of time before
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you saw him in full full motion?
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: We thought? I mean, so the first team meeting, we
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: walk in, there's a guy slouched over.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: Oh no, don't do that. I don't do that.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he sat up immediately, so he kind of rips.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: That guy sets the tone a little bit, you know,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: lets us know who he is, what he's about, you
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: know what we're gonna do. And he was nice to us.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Because he doesn't want your running away just yet. He
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: wants to evaluate you before you decide to leave.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: The thing about him is if he runs you away
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: good rudence. Oh yeah, yeah, he doesn't want you if
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: you're scared of him. Oh yeah, you're scared of the work.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: So he doesn't really ever try to tone it back out.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I don't think, not at all.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: No runs tempo all the time in everything.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you respond because not everybody responds to that. No, right, no,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: you do you want that?
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: Absolutely? What's your definition of hard edge?
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: That's a tough question.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's in your ear every single day.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yard edge.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Relentless.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely relentless. I would say, finding your breaking point
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: and pushing miles past it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Have you surprised yourself? Yeah?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: How better or how tougher or how Yeah, different you
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: can be.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: It's the mental toughness aspect of it. I've always been
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: pretty a pretty tough guy, like you know, I like
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: hard workouts, put myself through stuff that's gonna make me better.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: But you you find another gear with coach Rod and
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: coach Mike, obviously, you you find a different gear on
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: what you can really do and how far you can
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: push yourself.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Where do you think you found that thing that you
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: like to work hard? Was that a family thing? Did
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: you see that growing up? Or has that always found
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: and been kind of like your thing where you like
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: to take it to an extreme level.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: My mom for sure, really yeah she uh, she raised
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: me and my sister by herself, and she worked very
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: very hard to make sure we had everything we needed.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: So she's hard edge.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: That's awesome for sure, the definition of hard edge. I
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: should have said that my mom.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just look at her and go like, okay, this
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: is what I'm doing. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: What it's so, what memory do you have of your
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: mom getting in your grill if she thought you was
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: smacking off, and how did she deal with them?
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: It's it's not more, it's it's not Uh, she never
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: really got my grill too much.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Just sampled. She led by example.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was it was more example and
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: she never really had to say anything. It was just,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: you know, watching the way that she was. She was
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: stressed out and working as hard as she could and
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: all these things and still showed up for me and
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: my sister and kept a good mental state through you
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: know everything. Is it's tough, It's amazing. Yeah, she's she's
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: a tough one.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: Does she have the opportunity to come watch your games?
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: She comes up?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: She can?
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Do you get basically you get a home game week three?
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: How about that?
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I imagine, Yeah, I imagine that'll be That'll be a
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: good one.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: Hey what I mean?
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Football takes up so much time and you have school?
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: But what are you? Hunter? Fisherman? Outdoors, hiking, golf? What
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: else do you like them?
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Oh? Really, not so much hiking. I don't like hiking.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: If I need a hike to find a deer, I'll
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: But you're a hunter.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like hunting a lot. It wasn't something I
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: got in until I got to college, and now I'm
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: obsessed with it.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: Really. Yeah, Well we have where do you go with?
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Usually my buddies back home, I go with Nick a Lot,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Trevor Bigelow. I go with Kaden Biser from last year.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I go with him a lot and Kaiser over there.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Now you may not know this, but one of our
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: three is is they were now on the hunter.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Really boar cool.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you the story later.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: What do you mean by that, Well, he should just
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: know the full story. I freaking I absolutely freaking roasted
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: a bull was asleep.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: Did you see that might have already been dead, but
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: it wasn't running at him.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: We'll go into it later. I told the story of
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: many times, definitely.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure here he likes to tell his little story.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: It's on video. The freaking thing, I mean, damn near
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: killed me. I just took it straight out.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Hey, there was one moved, there was one on there
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: was one on the Facebook. Uh recently where one really
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: did come after a guy get his freaking dude on
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: loads on him. Once that thing still kept going, they
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: got within like from me to you, and he absolutely
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: corked it right in ahead. And yeah, my deal is
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I'd like to hunt things that could potentially hurt you.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Oh stop, you know you you're now it's become That's
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: how it started, big strong man. Big strong man, you
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: had a crew of like six other armed people with you.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: And I think one of them got it before he
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: even got there. That part's not on video.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Don't video.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: What did you know about West Virginia football as a
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: whole when West Virginia started going, Hey, we're West Virginia.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: We'd like to talk to you. We'd like to have
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: you come up for a visit, we'd like to offer
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you what. What was w VU football to you before
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: they started talking to you?
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about it growing up. I really
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: wasn't a sports watcher. I played, but I don't really
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: watch sports. So getting recruited, I had to learn a
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: bunch about different schools, like obviously the big ones everybody
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: knows about and stuff like that. In West Virginia is
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: a big school. But I just had never really gone
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: into research about him or anything much.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Sophomore or junior year where you started to figure out
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: that you might be able to play at a high.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: Level of college football.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Sophomore year, I got my first offer from app State
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: after my sophomore well yeah, after my sophomore season.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: So the Mountaineers were on you right from the start.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Right first offer came from the Mountaineers. You eventually became
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: so was app State, and then other people start making inquiries.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't I didn't get my first well it's
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Power five at the time, power five offer until I
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: went to one of those rivals camps they saw get
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: three star or something.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that that stuff is so silly, so
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: do I.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I got offer Louisville, went on a visit
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: there for a little bit. But you know, I think
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: app State, West Virginia and Wake Forest from my top three.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Coach Clark was at Appalachian Stadium at the time. Yeah,
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: he was. Yeah.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Isn't it crazy how life works?
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: Though?
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: So you didn't know much about West Virginia. It's not
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: like you grew up watching West Virginia and then you
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: end up in this crazy world where not everybody stays
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: very long. Now this has not only turned it a home.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: You're going into your fourth year here.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is crazy.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: It's remarkable how that works. Right, So now what mean?
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: What's West Virginia mean? Yes, there's some loaded questions some uh.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: That's what we do when you when you're done here,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: whenever that may may come. And I do want to
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: talk about that in a minute, because the fifth year
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: of eligibility thing has passed. When you're done here and
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: people come up to you and say West Virginia, you
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: will think of what what will pop into your mind?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Most we remember getting screamed at by coach Ron. Yeah,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: just the the people I've met here, my boys playing
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: here is is great. I mean, there's not many things
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: that make you feel like that. Just the experiences of
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: the time with my my buddy's.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Pit game last year probably resonates for a while.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Right, that was pretty cool. Yeah, favorite, that was way
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: up there, right, Yeah, Yeah.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: There will be more. That's just that's just a taste.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: There's more of those to get into the fifth year thing.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: That's a good question.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Well, so you're interesting because there's this there's this finite
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: group of guys and you are one that has played
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: four years, no red shirt, no COVID, no JUCO years,
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: just played straight four years of college football that now
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: have the opportunity to get a fifth year back. Have
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: you thought about that just came down here recently? Have
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: you thought about that given that any thought past this season?
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Would you like to stay and play another year of
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: college football now that it's afforded to you?
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not even a question.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so body wise you're good.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: You'd like to.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Stay doing this as long as you can do it.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's really interesting and and ben is
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: a small percentage of guys. I think there's there's only
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: a handful on the West Virginian football team that would
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: be eligible for that that next year. But it's really
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: kind of groundbreaking and came in a great time for you.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you talks about it for a while.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: There was for a long long time. But so that's
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: what's interesting when I I guess when you're in your spot,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: you're watching that, but it doesn't necessarily come to fruition
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: and you don't know that it's going to but then boom,
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: now it hits right for you, ready to start your
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: senior year.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I knew.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I think I knew the whole time that if I
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: did get the opportunity, I would obviously take it and
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: play here another year. Yeah, but I didn't want to
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: like get my hopes up for that, and I had
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: to start thinking about what I'm going to do after
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: this season too. But now that it's here, there's there's
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: not much thought that needs to go into that fifth.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're majoring in what uh sport? Uh sport management? Yeah, Okay,
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: do you want to.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Do something in the sports field once football is done?
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Whenever that may be. No, you don't know.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go home and and uh try
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: to be a fireman about that.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: Where'd that come from? Where'd that interests come from?
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of my buddies back home want to
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: do it, and their dads are firemen and getting retired
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: now and kind of living the life out there.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: You know. So you put in like twenty twenty five
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: years and you're good. Yeah, right, like in Charlotte maybe, yeah,
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Charlotte in trolling.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's stick in your face in the fan,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, we're in the fire.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's good. Man's it is good. That's what
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: That's what life's work. When you can save someone's life,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: which ultimately right you'll do.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: What's your what's your sister do?
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: What's she doing?
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: She is working at a dental office right now. You
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: guys close, Yeah, we're really close. She's young or older,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: fifteen months older, okay, fifteen months older, so she's two
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: school years ahead of me. But we're we're really close.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So when she when you're when your mom and
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: she watches you play, like they locked in or like
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: you know, some people like go to the next level,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: like they'll know your assignments, or they're just kind of
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: like I don't know about Ben on that drop I want.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: But so, what kind of fans are they? What are
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: you getting after games from your sister and your mom?
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: No, no feedback. It's kind of just a great job.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: But they're they're locked into the games. Oh yeah, like
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: they're watching every play. They don't necessarily know what's happening.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just know your number, ceball, hit ball, knock ball.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Down right that they wearing the jersey.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they got the jersey.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah like that.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Hey, Ben, do you during the game when you're getting held,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: which is every play, but like when it's excessive, do
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: you ever go to the ref and go sixties killing
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: me here, sixties holding me? No, just play the next play.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: They don't want to hear that. No, they know what's
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: happening too, they don't watch it. It's part of the game.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: But no, it's so you never so you don't engage.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: You don't engage with the officials. No, not at all,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: not at all.
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: Coach Rod does not allowed that. Oh, okay, yeah you
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: do not do you ever?
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Do you ever engage with the with the opponents?
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: And what would that? What would that be like? Like,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: all right, let's say you make it. You make a
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: tackle running backs coming through, You make a big tackles,
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: just you and the running back who starts the conversation?
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Who never makes the play?
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: So you start the conversation and what is your go to?
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I don't have a good I don't even know what
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I say out there. It's blacking out out there. After
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: you make a big play, I probably don't even make sense.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: These guys are probably looking at me.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, don't that cast stuff up here or anything
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: A lot of that I don't.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Know, I really come up. That's a great answer.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: I don't even know, don't I think it was a
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: lot of like what's up? Man? Like when you when
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: you you know, that's how it normally starts. What's up?
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: Don't bring it back. It's going to be here all day.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Then, just just ask tamer stuff.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: I think it gets a little more.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Go ask Pat White. Go ask Pat, because he was
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: one of the more famous trash talkers of all time.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: Did you know that no, I didn't know that.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: So, but he was Buddy was a would clandestine No,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: he was a silent trash talker. Like people didn't be
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: surprised to know that they didn't know he was doing it,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: but he but he was like in people's heads, but
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't really tell, like kind of like, well, you're
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: too young.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: There's this old show called Leave It to Beaver.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Kid's name was. Kid's name was Eddie Haskell, And like
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Eddie was constantly stirring crap up and he just constantly
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: and then when the parents came.
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: Around, Hey, how are you mister Mann one of those guys.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: So that's what that's what Pat was. Pat was like, hey,
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: what's going on? Everybody had no idea that he was
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: just talking high level up and backing it up. Yeah.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: He was nasty as a player. Yeah, I mean you've
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: ever seen his tape? Yeah, yeah, you think about it, dude.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: His his number is going up on that wall week
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: five or September five. So for the first, for the first.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: You got some we say this all the time. You've
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: got some dudes over there coaching now that were unreal
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: with Rashid, Pat Noel Devine, I mean, those were like highlights,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: highlight after highlight after highlight.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Dudes. Yeah, great players here.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: What do you think is the biggest adjustment as a
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: player that high schoolers make into the college game?
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: You mentioned speed earlier.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Is that the biggest difference when you're on that field
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: going like I would imagine, just the speed of it.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: That's a huge difference for me. I don't I can't
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: speak for everyone, but for me, it was block destruction
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: in high school, like you shut it kind of just
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: running to people. You don't have to use your hands
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: as much, right, you know, but here, if you're not
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: perfect on your technique, you're getting blocked. So that's that
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: was a huge thing for me, using how to learn,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: using learning how to use my hands.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned that you don't buy into the star
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: system that services use.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: Why not?
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: You see a handful of guys come out as five
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: stars and they're not great. Also, I've been at camps
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: where there's a four star linebacker there and he gets
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: offered over me, and he's not a good player.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: And now you're looking at going like that, dude's not
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: around playing at this level and here I am playing.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's there's a lot of people that make
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: it as zero stars, three stars and are some of
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: the best players in the country. And then you know,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: you can't tell what star rating a player is going
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: to be out of high school.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know this. You don't know.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: You don't know how much it means to them once
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: they get in here. Right, some guys are satisfied just
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: making it to this level and they don't put the
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: extra work in.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: And then those guys.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Do you have a pregame ritual music you listen to,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: what you go through in your heads? What do you do?
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: It used to be trying to get myself hyped up
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: with some rock music. Yeah, but I don't like to
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: do that anymore. Just slow country calm okay, yeah, because
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: if I get myself too riled up, like I can
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: listen to the slow stuff before the game and I'm
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: still rolled up on the field.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: If I try to get myself routed up before the game,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: I'm almost like too much, I can't even focus.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: So what gets you routed? When does that process begin?
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Now? For you?
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: The rile up, like let's go when and how does
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: that come about? Just when we run off run out
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: into the field, that just naturally does it for you.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Now you're like, let's go. Yeah, running down on that
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: first kick off too.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: Each thing?
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: You like special teams, Yeah, I do like special teams
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: because you're playing all of them.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, every single special teams.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and they are I mean they are special. Yeah,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: maybe the least it's the least talked about thing and
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: the thing that oftentimes decides games.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: It is all three phases, all three phases, three sides
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: of the ball.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: We sit here all week leading up to games. We've
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: pound the offense, we pound the defense. We talked about
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: every angle, and then it's like it's a kick, it's
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: the hidden yard, special teams, a big return, a fumble,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: a muff, a muffed punt, a missed field goal, Like
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: that's what decides the games.
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: You know, we just talked about numbers can be deceiving.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: We like to do numbers on this show. You you
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: had some really good numbers last year overall, but your
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: coverage grades were really good.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: You led the team in picks. By the way.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: It might surprise some people let the team interceptions last year.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: Yards to carry. I mean that's the guy you want
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: holding the ball.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: What was the what what was the deal? With the coverage.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: Was that just unusually good year? Were you doing some
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: things different where you asked to do it more? We're
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: just good matchups? Why why were you so good in
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: covers last year?
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Understanding our defense more helps the coverage A lot of
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Understanding route combinations from the offense helps a ton. You know,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: if you're in a zone coverage and you peek out
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: at a route, get back to the quarterback, and you
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: you know, based off of what you see. Coach work
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: has been hitting this a lot lately. Our linemakers coach
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: based off of the release of two. You pretty much
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: know what they're doing. If two's in, you know one's
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: up or or over, twos out ones in. There's stuff
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: like that, so you can kind of know what they're
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: gonna do, how it attacks your coverage that you're in,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: and then make sure you're in the right spot, and
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: then just having good breaks off the ball and seeing
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: QB indicators.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: It is not a lot of sub there's not there's
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: no subs to for speed, as they often say, but
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: brains and understanding what's going on in valuable.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's useful for sure. Red light.
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  Speaker 4: Can you you can tell the difference, you can feel
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and soreness. I just do it for for basic
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  Speaker 2: general like there's a there's a setting. There's a bunch
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  Speaker 5: And stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's nice.
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  Speaker 4: It means Register's annual Great Bike Ride across America.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's right.
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  Speaker 3: I forgot thank you. But you ride over seven days.
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  Speaker 3: You ride your bicycle all the way across Iowa straight,
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  Speaker 3: across four hundred and six miles and like seven days.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it and sleep in a tent outside
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  Speaker 4: in bad weather, and so that's what you need.
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  Speaker 5: You needed, you needed. The red light are like.
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  Speaker 3: Harder than the riding that Yeah, it's yeah, it was
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  Speaker 3: a struggle, but.
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  Speaker 5: You did it, dude, hardressive That is hard. Coach Rod
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: riding his bike across Iowa.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: It was. It was pretty It was pretty cool. It
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: was pretty cool. I enjoyed it, not like anything that
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: was not accomplished, like anything that Ben is doing. But
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I don't want to attack coach.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Rot about that.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I might offer the opportunity to
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: ride across Iowa.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: He might do that. Rich is a StairMaster only guy.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: That's all.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: He ain't getting on no bike. He's a StairMaster and
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: he's speedbag. So he likes the speed back. He's a
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: dog on the speed back.
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah he is. Yeah, think he's good.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: He's good at it.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I think it's more of a timidation thing really, So.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Ben speaking of Rich, and he doesn't. I don't think
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: he listens to three guys, does he does he?
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: Dana? Dana used to be a huge listener, would listen
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: every episode.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: What is riches? I always like to hear these things.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: What is riches?
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: Go to.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: To the team or players when he thinks that they're
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: not giving one hundred percent or not doing what they
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: should be doing. What's his go to criticism line?
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: He's got a lot of lines.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: He's funny, Like he's just funny. He just says funny
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: stuff a lot of times. I don't even know if
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: he thinks he I don't know if he's I don't
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: know if he knows he's funny. He just says he's funny.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: He is very funny. But he says funny stuff. I
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: don't even know if it's like he's not like rehearsing lines,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: it just comes.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: Out really more funny for us watching from the outside,
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: like Rashen and Pat and Mike Hawkins and Scott. That's
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: not that's not funny to them. That's not funny when
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: it's happening to you. He hadn't done it to you yet,
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: that's so that's when it's not funny.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: So like today, did did he have anything today that
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: stood out to you that he Oh, man, I don't know.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: We were doing a pursuit drill today and.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: Big and were they in fact loathing? Yeah?
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, but you know it's also hard, like he talks
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: a lot about how you won't even know your loaf
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Like after practice he said, you won't even know that
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: you're loafing, And then you go back and watch the
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: film and you're like, is.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: That me really?
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Like I'm really going that slow? But sometimes when you're
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: that tired, you're giving everything you got and it looks
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: like you're loafing. Yeah. Yeah, So loafing is one of
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: the cardinal sins.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Can't let ye can't What are you saying? You remember?
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: Well, there's certain thing I mean this podcast is listed
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  Speaker 5: as for all Families. Maybe it's not PG.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: No.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: He creates sentence structure that a lot of people me
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: puts words certain places you have never put before, Like
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• 57:37
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• 57:39
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• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Hot, So it's but it's okay. But his big thing
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: is if he doesn't think you're giving the absolute best
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: at every time, right, I mean that's his thing, right, yeah, yeah,
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: This is not funny, but I do have to turn
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: my head.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Like when one of you guys on defense he feels
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: takes a cheap shot during thud.
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: Not a good day.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: No, not.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: When there's somebody that like does more than they should
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: or knock somebody down when they see yeah tick tick
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: tick explosion.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but but the line can throw a linebacker in
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: the dirt, drag their entire body across.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: He didn't even react to the cheap shot during like
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: he's like whatever, get on the other end.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: I kind of noticed that, like even though he was
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: a defensive player, he protects that offense.
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, defensive guys go off the path. One bet he's absolutely.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Just no, he lets us. He lets us cross him,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: though he likes whenever we lay him out correctly, right,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, yeah, he's hard edge.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he wants it long as within the legal limits
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: of the of the book, Right, that's what he wants
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Play through the whistle.
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, three guys are for the game. Yeah, so that's
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: what I mean.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: That's a hard in all seriousness, it's really hard to
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: do because he's asking you to give the absolute most.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, as you'll learn, and as
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: you've seen, like he is so anti penalty and anti turnover,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: so he wants extreme, but at the same time, you
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: still better play clean.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Hey Ben, here's here's a good question for you, which
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: we talk about all the time, because you're you defend
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: the pass. Can you define targeting? No?
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Nope, not at all.
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: Good question.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: But of course he can't.
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: How could he?
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Nobody can't.
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: Nobody knows.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how would bend on that?
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: Nobody knows that?
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: What do they tell you? I mean, how what do
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: you coach to I mean, obviously your coach to avoid targeting,
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: but you're playing what you coach to do and not do.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: And again, it's so subjective. On the part of the officials.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, we watch it all the time, Brad, often
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: are we mate. It's just like, what why isn't that
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: charge almost every time?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's confusing. I would say, like bang bang plays,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: there's not much you can do about it. What the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: thing I don't understand is if I'm going down to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: make a tackle and the running back throws his head
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: into my head, it's targeting for Yes, that doesn't make
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: any sense to me, but that's hard. Then hits on
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: the quarterback and stuff like that, like when he's standing
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: up you just want to put your face mask in
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: mos chest, maybe mess up a red a little bit
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: Sometimes that happened, but they changed go ahead, I'm sorry.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: They changed the rule right on on the suspension, right
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: you're no longer suspended for.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: The next Yeah.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: They they've made a modification on that rule coming this year.
• 1:00:48
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  Speaker 1: rubber like Lou Wndow's got like the state of the
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  Speaker 1: art stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Just hurry up and get out on the lake.
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  Speaker 5: You fish it all. Yeah, yeah, good.
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  Speaker 2: Fishing boats there at lou Wendow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're just you're disqualified for the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the game, but not the next game.
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  Speaker 5: Oh so they're not doing that anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so if even if you do it in the
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  Speaker 1: in the second half, you don't have to do anything
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  Speaker 1: in the right that's pretty good. That used to be hard, man,
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  Speaker 1: Like you get booted in the second half of a
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  Speaker 1: game and you can't play the first half.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that's that was punitive. That was unfair.
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  Speaker 1: It's better. It's better than it used to be. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there were dudes that used to go out this is
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  Speaker 1: when you were little, that would just laser beam people
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  Speaker 1: in the head and they had to do something. It's
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  Speaker 1: getting better, but it's extremely difficult. I think what we
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  Speaker 1: all fail to recognize. And you would know this when
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  Speaker 1: you watch it on TV and they slow it down.
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  Speaker 1: It's going slow. Those hits happen so fast. And I
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  Speaker 1: oftentimes say this, if some could just stand on the
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: sideline for one game, they would have a complete different
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: appreciation and perception of what the game is. Every single
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: play is a small car accident. Yeah, every single play,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: the speed of it, the how the hit, the sound,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's frightening.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're really talking to the audience. You probably
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  Speaker 4: don't need to tell him that. He was very aware
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  Speaker 4: he creates the car crash. Yeah, hey, do you said
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  Speaker 4: you didn't watch You weren't a sports watcher growing up,
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  Speaker 4: are you now? Do you watch more on a Saturday?
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  Speaker 4: If we play at noon and you're done, you watch
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  Speaker 4: games at night or you done?
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  Speaker 2: I'll watch more games, especially if they're in our conference,
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  Speaker 2: like a team that we're going to play.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll watch them. Yeah, get a little advanced scout
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  Speaker 4: in watch the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: No, no video game? Guy, nope, Okay. Do you watch TV? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Getting the shows shows what so like what kind of stuff?
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  Speaker 2: I can never remember which one it is, but it's
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: like the nineteen it's like the Yellowstone Backstory. Yeah, those
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  Speaker 2: are really good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched Yellowstone itself.
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting ready to Oh yeah that's good. If he
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: went back in order, he went backstory.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, now you're getting Yellowstone.
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  Speaker 5: That's good.
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  Speaker 2: I watched the Burroughs last week.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, she's like a.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Stranger Things kind of right. So on Netflix, it's good.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, that's what's changed everything. Obviously.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: You guys just watch shows and you know, just kind
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: of focusing on that. So we mentioned music earlier. Country.
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  Speaker 5: So who's your dudes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to Riley Green concert tonight.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's richest boy.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah he's good, he's big.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Luke Combs, I like him. I like Luke Combs. Cody
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Johnson is probably my favorite.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: Not so much Charles Wesley. You met Charles West.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: I haven't met him, but he'll be around.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: It comes around. He'll pop in for an August practice.
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  Speaker 2: He talked to us, but I've never really had a conversation.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Good dude, did you see the CMA concert last night?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: Did you watch that? It was a long CMA concert
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: last night. I was flicking back and forth between that
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: and the World.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Cup soccer guy. No, sorry, I'm sorry, probably got so.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Did you you you said earlier. I don't know if
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: we were recording it or not. Baseball when you were younger? Yeah,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: I played baseball when I was younger.
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  Speaker 5: And any other sports you'd seem like to be a
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: hell of a wrestler.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Did you have a wrestle? I wish I would have.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: I didn't.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: I never would be a wrestler.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: You're a wrestler. Yeah, Zach Fraser was a wrestler.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: I think he's also aware of that.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: Could Zack get a hold of you?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was if he got his hands on you.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: There's not much after that before we started really you said,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: like when he would come on, you'd literally would like
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: punch him in the stomach.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: And it didn't.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Those those O linemen my my freshman year kind of
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: they liked me, like, you know, I had good relationships
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: with them, but they also knew I was kind of
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: crazy at practice because I didn't. I'm not a guy
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: that likes to be bullied around. Okay, obviously playing football,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: you know, and those guys were so good and once
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: they got their hands on you that you'd like, there
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: wasn't much.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, you were at right, you're going to get
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: to NFL guys first year.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So whenever they would hold me up and they're
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: throwing punches, you know, doing anything I could to get
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: them off of me, kicks, you know, whatever, anything and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: they just be sitting there laughing at me. I'm like, dude, yeah,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: learning process there, Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: It is what's the what's the best thing about being
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: a college football player.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: I would say one of the the lessons you learned
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: from it is are huge. And then being able to
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: have an impact on people that that you don't know,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: being able to show your character and and you know
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: things you like what you're about, and being able to
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: help people. You know, like a lot of guys will
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: will text me on Instagram, linebackers that are in high school,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: and I'll watch their film and give them tips on
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: you know, things they can be working on and stuff
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: like that. So just being in a position where you
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: know people want your advice and being able to give
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: it to them and help them out.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: No interest at all in coaching going forward.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe at the high school level, not at the college level.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just too much at the college level, you know.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I say that now doors open, but doors open. I
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: say that now, But I feel like after I'm done playing,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: I'm one gonna want to get back into it somehow.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: But I don't know, We'll see.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, firemen have you know, schedules that kind
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: of give you a work a ton and then they
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: have some days off.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: So maybe you could kind of create something in that
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: little world.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to want to have like a gym
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: and train like high school athletes something like that.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: But you could do that.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, plenty of opportunities you guys.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, as you well know that weight room. You
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: got some special dudes down there with Mike Joseph. That's
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: he's making you the best version of yourself.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely physically mentally, yeah, exactly.
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