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Best of the Bus: Jameis Winston Talks Adversity & Development Throughout Career · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Busting with the Boys. We have
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  Speaker 1: an awesome guest, Jamis Winston, Florida State Seminal Buccaneer, New
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  Speaker 1: Orleans Saints Cleveland Browns Bro.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on the show. You got massive
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  Speaker 2: fans all over.
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  Speaker 3: The place with Busting with the Boys, Man sound improvers
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  Speaker 3: to be here among these greatness, this greatness.
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  Speaker 4: Did you when you're coming out of college and the
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  Speaker 4: whole crab let things happen? Who's gonna be first? You
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  Speaker 4: were Marcus, Like I feel like there was a dip in,
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  Speaker 4: like oh this guy, Like maybe people weren't appreciating your personality.
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  Speaker 4: You flip over, it's been ten years now. You are
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  Speaker 4: like the media darling. I watch you at Media Days
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  Speaker 4: on Monday. The way you set up the joke for
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  Speaker 4: what's your favorite color to Chris Jones, the way like
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  Speaker 4: the comedic timing, the how authentic you are, Like talking
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  Speaker 4: to Will he was at Barstow. We have never actually met,
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  Speaker 4: like facers maybe one time after a game, yeah, but
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  Speaker 4: hearing that, like you're the same guy, Like at any
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  Speaker 4: point throughout your career where you're like, do I need
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  Speaker 4: to be a little more like a model student? That
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  Speaker 4: these teams want me to be or did you never
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  Speaker 4: wavering who you were as a person?
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  Speaker 3: Well, when I first got to Tampa, I think like
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  Speaker 3: that was the compromise that I first made, like just
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  Speaker 3: trying to get out of the get out of the
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  Speaker 3: media as public enemy number one, because I wanted people
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  Speaker 3: to really see who I truly was. So I invested
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  Speaker 3: time in the community. I invested a lot of time
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  Speaker 3: with my teammates. And I always consider myself like a
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  Speaker 3: people pleaser, but that wasn't necessarily me at that time
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  Speaker 3: in Tampa because I was like, man, I'm so I'm
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  Speaker 3: so focused on me as the person. But when you're
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  Speaker 3: a good person, you have to try to be a
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  Speaker 3: good person. And I put so much thought, energy, in
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  Speaker 3: so much time and effort to like, man, I gotta
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  Speaker 3: show these people that I'm not who they think I am,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but at the end of the days, it's
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  Speaker 3: not actually it's not you're not who you think you are,
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  Speaker 3: but what you think you are. So it's putting my
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  Speaker 3: energy toward, like man, my play toward like developing a family,
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  Speaker 3: spending month like in Tampa that was my young days,
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  Speaker 3: you know. So like I'm in a new city, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's living young, wild and free. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 3: I have a girlfriend that's living in Texas, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm trying to manage that relationship and also focus
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  Speaker 3: on my dream, focus on winning the super Bowl, focus
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  Speaker 3: on being the best quarterback and teammate I can possibly be,
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  Speaker 3: and focus on being the best man that I possibly
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  Speaker 3: be without the limitations and perception that others had of
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  Speaker 3: me at that time.
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  Speaker 1: When you are stripping those things off, Like, talk about
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  Speaker 1: what it was like for you becoming a professional. When
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  Speaker 1: you're around guys in the league that's been around a
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  Speaker 1: long time, Like I'm thinking of Tampa. You're around like
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  Speaker 1: Levonte David Gerald, McCoy, Mike Evans, like guys.
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  Speaker 2: Who are becoming pros.
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  Speaker 1: Because when you come out, you've been a duel through
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  Speaker 1: at quarterback, you've been a man since high school. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you've obviously major rounds in the headlines when you were
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  Speaker 1: in college. And when you get draft and you're going
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  Speaker 1: to Tampa, like, talk about what it was like for
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  Speaker 1: you becoming that pro, stripping yourself of the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the past and everything else and the perceptions that people
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  Speaker 1: had about you, Like becoming that ultimate pro that you're
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, one thing that a wise person shared with
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  Speaker 3: me Joe Thaisman, and we had a tough conversation at
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  Speaker 3: the Walter kemper Ward and we're talking about just like
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  Speaker 3: I was just explaining him, like, man, Joe, like that's
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  Speaker 3: not me, Like what you've heard about me on TV,
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  Speaker 3: Like that's not me. Like I'm a Southern boy from Alabama.
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  Speaker 3: I respect my elders, I respect everyone that I encountered with,
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  Speaker 3: Like that's just how I was born and raised. And
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  Speaker 3: he was like, James, He's like, I can tell look
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  Speaker 3: in your eyes, I can tell that's not you. But
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  Speaker 3: I want you to understand what this business is and
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  Speaker 3: what public perception is. Perception is reality. So instead of
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  Speaker 3: you telling me, or instead of you forcing people to
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  Speaker 3: like you, or instead of you're trying to convince somebody
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  Speaker 3: who you are, people gonna believe what they want to believe.
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  Speaker 3: So you should just do that consistent, day in and
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  Speaker 3: day out. He said. The more that you do that,
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna come out who you truly are. He's like,
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  Speaker 3: because you can't hide truth, Like truth is eventually gonna
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  Speaker 3: come out to the light. But in terms of like
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  Speaker 3: veterans like Jerey McCoy. Another veteran that that really helped
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  Speaker 3: me was Lewis Murphy because he had a chance to
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  Speaker 3: be in and in Oakland and Carolina around cam Noon,
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  Speaker 3: Derek Carr and guys like that, Levonte David just his poors,
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  Speaker 3: his presence in the time of community. Another big one
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  Speaker 3: that y'all probably remember his name, Clynn MacDonald, like just
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  Speaker 3: a true man of faith. I had the opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: go to Like you know, when you're young, you're trying
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  Speaker 3: to go to every event that your teammate has. So
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  Speaker 3: the first time I went to Little Rock, Arkansas, it
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  Speaker 3: was to one of his charity events for his foundation
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  Speaker 3: with his family and just seeing him as a man
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  Speaker 3: with his girls and his wife. And I took my
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  Speaker 3: girlfriend at the time now wife, And that was one
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  Speaker 3: of the changing points in my life in terms of
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  Speaker 3: my commitment and my love and my consistency with my wife.
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  Speaker 3: In terms of like when I saw that him represent
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  Speaker 3: his foundation, people in his city coming to support him,
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  Speaker 3: I understood, like man, like I know it's bigger than me,
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  Speaker 3: and I have a partner who I can support and
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  Speaker 3: who I can help lead to grow with me to
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  Speaker 3: be involved with all these great things in community, family brands,
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  Speaker 3: like all that stuff became important to me because I
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  Speaker 3: saw this man, Clin McDonald religiously, like we went to
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  Speaker 3: a football camp, he had a golf tournament, but who
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  Speaker 3: he was in his community. I'm just like, man, like
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  Speaker 3: this this is mean to my community. But what he's
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  Speaker 3: displaying with his wife, with his kids in front of
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  Speaker 3: his family is that consistency, That that that foundation, and
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  Speaker 3: that's something that I'm chasing. So when I was in
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  Speaker 3: little Roal, Arkansas, I was like, man, like, this is
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  Speaker 3: who I'm going to be, and like I'm not waving
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  Speaker 3: from this, like I'm gonna be intentional with my wife,
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  Speaker 3: like I'm I'm gonna get that fixed. We're not about
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  Speaker 3: to be going back and forth, like I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 3: intentional with with what i want to do, how I
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  Speaker 3: want to serve my community, how I want to impact
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  Speaker 3: the younger generation. And obviously I feel like ball has
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  Speaker 3: always been on the top of my mind because that's
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  Speaker 3: something that we all have tried to perfect along guy journey.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, Oh yeah, you talked about like the ball being
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  Speaker 4: the top of mind, Like NFL stands for not for
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  Speaker 4: long in so many ways, like you only have a
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  Speaker 4: finite amount of years to accomplish what your childhood dream was.
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  Speaker 4: How do you find balance when you get home?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you find balance about being all in on every stage.
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  Speaker 3: And again of one of my biggest growth stages as
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  Speaker 3: well in twenty nineteen where I got around Clyde Christensen
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  Speaker 3: who coached Peyton, and you know, Peyton studied like no
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  Speaker 3: like no other, and Clyde he was like, I was
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  Speaker 3: the first person to really encourage him, like, hey man,
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  Speaker 3: like what you do in this building is what you
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  Speaker 3: do in this building, but once you go home, you
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  Speaker 3: need to go home and be that same caliber studier,
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  Speaker 3: same present person, same leader to your family. And I
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  Speaker 3: was like, okay, So one thing that we did we
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  Speaker 3: saw developing a plan. I never really had a plan, right,
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  Speaker 3: Like I had my off season plan, but my nd
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  Speaker 3: season plan was, you know, studying watching four games on
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  Speaker 3: Monday Tuesday, getting an early bead on third downs, and
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  Speaker 3: watching some more of the rundowns. But I never written
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  Speaker 3: it down to what I was specifically specifically gonna do,
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  Speaker 3: so I wasn't really holding myself accountable to the things
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  Speaker 3: that I was doing to prepare. I was preparing. I
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  Speaker 3: was laying on the line, but it wasn't strategized.
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  Speaker 4: You're checking a box and yeah, you watch these four games. Boom,
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  Speaker 4: I watch the four games. Yeah, watch a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Third down?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, now, no third down.
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  Speaker 3: I never put throw energy into the preparation side of it.
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  Speaker 3: I just did it because I loved it, and I
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  Speaker 3: knew what was required to be a successful quarterback, and
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  Speaker 3: I knew I couldn't go out there unprepared. But I
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  Speaker 3: never thought that me actually sitting down with my quarterback
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  Speaker 3: coach planning what I am going to do, how much
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  Speaker 3: accountability that brings. Because I'm saying, like, if I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: write this down and freaking in June, what I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: do in the months of September, October, November, and December.
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  Speaker 3: That's a level of commitment to like doing those things
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  Speaker 3: and making sure that you actually are being those things
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  Speaker 3: and not just saying, oh, I wrote this down just
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  Speaker 3: to write it for the love of the game.
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  Speaker 4: It seems easy to check boxes for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Field energy of jamis I'm already in this room, and
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  Speaker 2: that lifts you up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah does like he's truly he's the rising tide that
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  Speaker 4: is lifting our ship.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I appreciate y'all, but I'm gonna vote with y'all.
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  Speaker 2: I've been seeing you getting in the mix.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been.
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  Speaker 2: Seeing you getting in the mix.
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  Speaker 1: You had something you were you know Taylor was talking
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  Speaker 1: about earlier, but hitting media.
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  Speaker 2: Days on behalf of Fox Sports.
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  Speaker 1: You've been going on pods, like do you ever get
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  Speaker 1: fascinated by the things outside of football? Because we all
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  Speaker 1: eventually the game comes for us all. Do you see
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  Speaker 1: yourself doing something like something like that after football?
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  Speaker 3: Man, I consider myself a man of increase. So whatever
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  Speaker 3: I can do to uplift people, uplift a brand, uplift
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  Speaker 3: a company, I'm gonna do it. But right now, like man,
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  Speaker 3: my my main goal, like my contingency plan is none existent.
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  Speaker 3: My main goal is to be a super Bowl winning
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  Speaker 3: starring quarterback in this NFL league. And like, do you
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  Speaker 3: know the time, the effort, the dedication and preparation that
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  Speaker 3: that entails that you know, obviously, my my my charisma
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  Speaker 3: who I am, Like, that's gonna that's gonna remain the same.
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  Speaker 3: That's my foundation, my faith, that's who I am. That's
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  Speaker 3: what I'm imitating. Christ So I know, like that's gonna
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  Speaker 3: remain the same. But my dream is to lead my
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  Speaker 3: team to the super Bowl and I still haven't done
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  Speaker 3: that yet, and I can't. I would not allow myself
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  Speaker 3: to be still in this business, still have opportunities and
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  Speaker 3: not put dedicate my time and energy to assisting, serving,
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  Speaker 3: or helping my team reach that goal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an impossible game to be half in and
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  Speaker 4: half out about, especially as a starting quarterback when you
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  Speaker 4: look at like the position you're in this year, Deshaun Watson,
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  Speaker 4: he gets hurt. You come in and we go up,
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  Speaker 4: we go down. We're kind of moving around little bit,
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  Speaker 4: but you're slinging.
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  Speaker 2: The ball everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: Are you looking at guys like Baker Mayfield, who's you know,
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  Speaker 4: went to the Browns people kind of cursed him out
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  Speaker 4: of the building. He gets out of there, and now
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  Speaker 4: he's like kind of reset himself and calibrate himself in
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  Speaker 4: Tampa as a starting quarterback, Like what quarterbacks are you
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  Speaker 4: watching me?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 4: I need to imitate this to take the next stay
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  Speaker 4: step for that so I can achieve the goal you
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  Speaker 4: were just talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Honestly, the quarterbacks that I've been watching this offseason
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  Speaker 3: has been Anon Rodgers and Russell Wilson because I think
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  Speaker 3: they do a good job of limiting their own critical errors.
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  Speaker 3: Uh and sometimes when their play uh, you don't see
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  Speaker 3: like early on in both their careers, you see the
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  Speaker 3: flashy they show you they can make a play when
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  Speaker 3: it's time to make a play. But sometimes they play
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  Speaker 3: games where you're just like man like they have took
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  Speaker 3: eighteen consecutive checkdowns, you know. And I think that's the
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  Speaker 3: part of my game where I have to really master.
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  Speaker 3: I know I can win a shootout. I know I
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  Speaker 3: can go out there and and surgically dissect any defense
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  Speaker 3: that comes my way. But now the key to my
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  Speaker 3: game to me, actually elongating my career is winning football
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  Speaker 3: games and protecting our team to the best best be Like.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely from an operation standpoint, is what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Talk to me, dude, explain to me Aaron Rodgers and
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  Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. I've been a little negative. Russell Wilson had
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  Speaker 4: he had a nice couple of weeks in the middle
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  Speaker 4: of the season with the Steelers, but Aaron, those two
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  Speaker 4: names like Aaron didn't have a great year like this.
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  Speaker 4: The Jets were back on the Super Ball contending for
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  Speaker 4: they're having a parade in man. Yeah, when he's when
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  Speaker 4: he's coming back, it doesn't work out that way.
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  Speaker 3: Why those two quarterbacks, well, those two quarterbacks specifically, because
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  Speaker 3: I think they do a good job of having a
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  Speaker 3: plan for the game. And they might not have five
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  Speaker 3: hundred yards in the first half, they might have eighty yards,
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  Speaker 3: but they know when to turn it on and when
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  Speaker 3: to turn it off. And no, they didn't have like
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  Speaker 3: Russ Probab didn't finish the way that he wanted to finish.
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  Speaker 3: But if you watch the course of his games, man,
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  Speaker 3: he is managing the game and is in complete control
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  Speaker 3: of what he wants to do. Same thing with Aaron. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he had some ups and downs. He didn't have the
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  Speaker 3: year that he wanted to have, but still throughout the
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  Speaker 3: consistency of his play weekend and week out is protecting
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  Speaker 3: the team. He plays that like I call it. I
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  Speaker 3: call it selfishly thinking about yourself, like they play in
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  Speaker 3: a waiter like, Man, I'm not thinking about my stats.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to see like I'm not going to mess
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  Speaker 3: it up. I'm gonna let the other team mess it up,
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  Speaker 3: and then when it's time for me to make a play,
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  Speaker 3: I have the god given ability to go out there
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  Speaker 3: and execute him.
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  Speaker 4: Right, this is what you're basically, what you're saying is
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  Speaker 4: knowing when to turn it on and turn it off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, talk about the mental game, like when
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  Speaker 1: you are out there slinging it one week and then
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  Speaker 1: you have the pixures.
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  Speaker 2: I think you had a couple of pig sixers on
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  Speaker 2: like Monday night.
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  Speaker 1: Like when you you hear the rumblings of you and interceptions, Like,
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  Speaker 1: talk about the mental game. Do you ever get caught
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  Speaker 1: up and turning the ball over when you have all
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  Speaker 1: these touchdowns one week you turn the ball over next
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  Speaker 1: Talk about like being able to separate, separate yourself, zoom out,
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  Speaker 1: give yourself perspective, give yourself gratitude because just as athletes,
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  Speaker 1: you just know that it is a constant mental game.
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  Speaker 2: Like when you are.
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  Speaker 4: Playing, have you basically what those askings? Have you ever
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  Speaker 4: brought a book on the sidelines to read between series?
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  Speaker 3: Never?
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  Speaker 2: Never?
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  Speaker 3: Never in my life, but I have. I have written
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  Speaker 3: things on my wristband like patience, precision, execution feet. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: The mental game is so important because like we all notice,
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  Speaker 3: like as athletes, you know you hear the saying like
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  Speaker 3: the game is nine mental, ten percent physical, and until
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  Speaker 3: point it's true because we got our god giving abilities,
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  Speaker 3: like we can do this, or we won't be able
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  Speaker 3: to do this, or you won't be in a lead
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  Speaker 3: long like right, they do a good job of assessing talent,
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  Speaker 3: but I would have to credit my mental capacity in
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  Speaker 3: terms of handling highs and lows one with my faith
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  Speaker 3: journey and my knowledge of just the word of One
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  Speaker 3: of my favorite verses is James two to four, say
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  Speaker 3: is counted all joy, my brothers and sisters, when you fall,
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  Speaker 3: when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing
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  Speaker 3: of your faith produces patience, endurance. But let that endurance,
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  Speaker 3: let that patients have its perfect work, so that you
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  Speaker 3: can be complete, lacking nothing. Ultimately, That's what I'm trying
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  Speaker 3: to do in terms of.
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  Speaker 5: That quote, but in terms of game right now, but
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  Speaker 5: literally in terms of my play, Like that's why I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: I know, okay, some things are going to happen, right,
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  Speaker 5: but when they happen, I counted as man.
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  Speaker 3: I see the good in everything. I have joy and
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  Speaker 3: when bad things happen, because now I get the opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to make up for it. But sometimes that gets me
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  Speaker 3: in trouble because I want to make up for it,
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  Speaker 3: right then, But that's not start pushing the envelope. That's
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  Speaker 3: but that isn't allowing the perfect work to happen. Sometimes
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  Speaker 3: a good play is no play at all. Right, But
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  Speaker 3: I view this in terms of the house and lows.
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  Speaker 3: I view it from a baseball perspective. Okay, I'll play baseball,
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  Speaker 3: y'all play baseball.
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  Speaker 2: Growing up a little bit, a little bit center field.
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  Speaker 3: So you get in the Hall of Fame, you get
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  Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame, go on one for three, right,
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  Speaker 3: So it's a sport that okay's failure. Like as a quarterback, man,
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  Speaker 3: what a great satisan, I want to go twenty two
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  Speaker 3: for twenty eight, three hundred and seventy eight yards with
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  Speaker 3: four touchdowns and zero interceptions. Right, twenty two for twenty
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  Speaker 3: eight is perfect in baseball. If I told you, man,
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  Speaker 3: I went twenty two for twenty eight this weekend with
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  Speaker 3: eight doubles and four home runs and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: three triples. Like that's unbelievable. But literally baseball terms, I
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  Speaker 3: can go one for three and making it in the
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  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. That's a three hundred average. So understand,
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  Speaker 3: Like Man, it's okay to fail, but I gotta make
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  Speaker 3: the most of my opportunity when it's there. I gotta
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: have a snap and clear mentality because I might have
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: struck out this last at bat, but this at bat,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: I have a chance, right, And I believe that, Like
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: you can see that in the way that I play.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: I go out there with the approach like we have
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: a chance as long as there's time on that clock.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: But I think I know understanding that, Man, I need
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: to play like for four quarters instead of just playing
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: for that specific specific drive. I need to play for
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: that specific play knowing that it's gonna take me four
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: quarters to win this game, instead of trying to win
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: on that one play.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Yeah, you seem like it's like him going
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: back to Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson. It's like eliminating
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: things like, Hey, the game's gonna come on one play
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: at the time versus gotta be superman now.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Right In the next series.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: Of all the people we've talked to in the short
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: amount of time we've been here, it's like maybe the
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: most intentional human being we very spoke to, Yeah, or
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: at least trying to find intention. Yeah, in every single
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: situation you brought a baseball dude going one for three
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: and being in the Hall of Fame, you had like
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: you were in a rare breed of athlete where you
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: were able to play. Choose whether or not you're gonna
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: go to the baseball route or with the football route,
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: what it everly brought you to. I'm gonna chase my
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: football dreams.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: My love for this game, my love for the game
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: of football, my love for the h the position that
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: quarterback entails. Man. Like, I think when you look at
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: a leader in general, I think the quarterback is that
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: person that displays what true leadership is like, especially when
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: you got a good one and when you got one
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: that the team likes. You know what I'm saying. Because
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: we have to literally be able to communicate to everybody
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: in the locker room from all different walks of life,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: all different backgrounds, Like we have to be the people
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: that can get in front of our guys and you
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: might be from our you might be from Broward County,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: and we got to make this thing work all right,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: And the only way we're gonna make can work is together.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: And that's the quarterbacks role. The quarterbacks role is to
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: make all these little pieces work and go. So I
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: take pride in it. And I'm gonna tell you, when
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: you're a po and you're watching other people hit and
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: watch other people winning games, and you over there eating
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: seeds and chewing on big chew, it ain't no fun man.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Out of the Actually.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I had something that slip my mind.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I got one before even the Deshaun Watson goes down
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and you get your opportunity. There is even conversations before
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: he goes down and putting Jamis in just because of
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the quarterback play that was happening walk us through this year,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: even before you getting to play, Like, how much were
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: you having to be patient and persevered when even you
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: might be able to say, like, I know it's a
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: backup somebody's not playing well, you're like itching. You're like
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: itching for that opportunity and your time to shine. But
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: what was it like for you early in the year,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: especially when those conversations started to happen on a it
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: could be a move.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Here to put Jameis Winston in the game.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you know I feel like I feel like
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: God put me in the test last year with Derek
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: where man, we would go out in games, and our
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: fans like the Saints fans like they booring, they boring,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: and I have to sit in the meetings and I
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: felt like like from I see looking in the Shaun
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: is playing like like he's bad or they're playing bad.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: But I felt like they're playing good because when I'm
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: on your team, I'm there to serve you. I'm not
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: there to serve the opin or listen to the outside noise.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I'm there to make this thing work. When I tell
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: all my team is like, if you're not trying to
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: be part of the solution, you're not trying to win
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: no games. I know that it's at the quarterbacks. It's
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: only one person that's gonna be out there one everybody else.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Or you play left tackle, you had a right time.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: There's a left guard, there's a right guard, the center,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: the quarterback. There are only ones that are singular out there.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So I have to be
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: all in of serving the Shaun and last year's opportunity
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Irv and Derek despite the outside noise. Now I also
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: know that my opportunity is coming shortly and I have
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: to be ready for that as well.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Do that is awesome yeah, that is because it's tough too,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: because you talk about the dream, you want to lead
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: it Toto a super Bowl like you hear the outside
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: noise and everything else. But to compartmentalize and know that
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: he if you're not part of the solution, you need
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to get out of the building because you're part of
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the problem, or you're creating a problem or some toxic
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: poison that's in that locker room, which you know it
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: has to be eliminated if you're going to be a
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: good football team.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: But will I started with this what I want for myself,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I want for everyone. So what if that was me?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Imagine how many people then
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: talk stuff about me my entire life right now, they
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: biting their tongue because they're like, over time, the truth
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: is gonna say itself free. And I tell you I
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: still tell the shown this, Like, brother, listen, you may
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: be going through a season of adversity, but I promise
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: you you're gonna make it out of this, despite public opinion,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: despite what the everybody's on your case right now. But
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: if you don't give up and you just use the
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: ability that God. Because Desharn Watson can play football. You
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, a lot of people that as
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: fans that the twitter thumbs have they quit the judge somebody,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: They quick to write somebody off. Because the game that
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: we play in the NFL, we have the greatest game
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: of them all. Because every senile year there are two
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty six are people coming in to take
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: our spot that they're promoting this. They're like, we are
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: celebrating the people that's coming in to take your spot
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: with the draft, and we're gonna give them fake watches
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: and free watches. We're gonna we're gonna boost up the brands.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: We're gonna take some of your deals and give it
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: to them. Even if they don't make it. They might
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: not get cut the first day in, but we're telling
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: you that they coming. So in terms of our mentality,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: it has remained. We got to remain staff fast. We
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: can't never lose sight of what we want because we
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: know it's always gonna be the next man up. It's
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: always gonna be somebody cycling around. Guccia Mans always say,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: while he's using the reference of of of his is
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: l flings, he would say, opportunities and like buses miss
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: one next fifteen one coming and you can look up
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: the regular laracy you want to do that, but literally
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: you might miss the bus. But you got to be
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: ready for that next bus to come, or you got
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: to be trying to bucket to get to the next
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: bus stop so you can catch the bus. But if
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: you don't want to catch the bus, then don't stand
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: in don't stand in the bus stop. Yeah, you know
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: You talked about guys from guys from all over the
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: country going into one facility of fifty three guys have
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: that should have one goal, that's to win a super Bowl.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: It when you go into your rookie season coming from
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Florida State, you win a national championship. Like you've you've
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: been in the tip top of college. Now you're put
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: yourself back on the bottom of the totem pole. What
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: trials and tribulations did you have? Maybe trying to push
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: the envelope too much? Or how do I take leadership
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: as opposed to earn the earn the leadership. That's a
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: very difficult thing because everyone says the quarterback has to
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: be the leader in the room. And to be a
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: rookie immediately with grown men who have kids for one
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: k's all that and you're walking for your first time.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Yo, this ship's crazy. Yeah, you need to be a
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: leader in the situation.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: What what where did you think you thrived And where
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: some areas say like, oh, if I could go back,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: I would do that differently.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: The places that I thrive was just bringing youth into
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: the whole situation, because I think even veterans in the
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: locker room, they need to see someone who loves the
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: game and instills that passion in them that they may
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: have once had, or they might just need somebody to
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: help them assist them into finding their passion back. And
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I know I did that to the best of my abilities.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: The thing that I feel like I could have did
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: a better job at then I know I could have
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: did a better job at, was being unapologetically myself the
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: first few games at Tampa Bay, like when we used
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: to lose, cry you know, I used to really to cry,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: like I hated losing. But alone the course, I started
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: to be okay with losing those games. And when I
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: consider myself being okay, that's why I said now I
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: compromise too much. I wasn't me like I would never
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: be okay with losing. But anytime like this, this is
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: this like science, if you take a step backwards, that
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: is gonna hurt you way more than taking ten steps forward,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: because if you're consistently moving forward step by step, you're
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: gonna get father. But the only time where you eliminate
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: all chances is when you take a step backwards. And
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: when you compromise who you truly are as a human being,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: you're taking a step backwards. So I try to please
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: everyone else, like I ain't gonna cry. I know we
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: just got beat by twenty. I'm not gonna cry. I'm
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: just gonna act like I'm happy. But I'm acting like
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I'm happy and we just got beat by twenty Like
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: that don't do nobody justice. Obviously, when you walk into
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: the building, like the mentality that you need to have
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: needs to be energetic, positive, so you don't bring anyone
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: else down. But you can't be okay with losing. And
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: that's the part that I feel like before I guess
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: the NFL, I never lost, Like I didn't lose, really,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: you know, not really, we alway is one and I
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: think that's the part in the NFL that is limiting
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: me from getting to where I want to be because
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I don't have enough wins, you know, and like early
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: on in my temper years, me compromising to being okay
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: with losing. I think that impacting my wins leading up
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: to this point up until.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Why do you feel like you started to be okay
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: with losing.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Because everyone else was okay with losing and I had
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: to be that person to make sure that they knew
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: it's okay. You know what I'm saying. We just need
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: to fix this. We just need to do this. We
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: just need to do that instead of being like, Nah,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: this ain't okay, we have to do this. This is
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: it's required for us, not what we need to do. Bro.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: This is a requirement if we want our jobs, if
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: we want to be everything that we that we want
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: to be. It is a requirement that we give all
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: we have in this game. It is a requirement that
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: we understand that winning is just as it contagious as losing.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: And I don't think people understand that.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when that first game of your NFL career officer
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: on the other side line, yes, your second year in
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: the NFL, and there was always this back and forth
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: about who's going on, Marcus or Jamis and then so
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: like the media is essentially establishing a rivalry between the
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: two of you. Did you feel that rivalry going the
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: end of that game or through the combined process, the
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: interview process.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: I definitely felt it throughout the combined process. Man, me
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: and Marcus was training at the same place out in
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: cars Bad, prolific athletes were Ryan Clarity and its.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Beautiful, it's amazing, it's beautiful.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: And we were out there to the same place, and
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: like we would show up and like we never would
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: work out together. Like literally, like if I was in
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: the building, like he was either leaving or he was
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: gonna go somewhere else. It was just never. Uh the
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: the the brotherhood that you see one and two typically has,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, It was just like you
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: over there, I'm over here, like let's work, but I
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: ain't trying to do it together.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: So no conversations to place because it is such an
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: interesting rivalry to me because both of you guys are
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: such good people.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I didn't tell you. I didn't tell you the good Parcus.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Never said a bad thing about anybody ever.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: He's a good part.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: But I'm still trying to drag the audience out of
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: a little bit Jameis Winston and Marcus hated each other.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: We never hated each other, bro We just like obviously
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I was Marcus was always the quiet person among us two,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: so I know I probably have been extra uh in
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: times I was around him. But last year, man, I
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: took time just searching, like who can I train with? Uh?
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And I took the accountability of going out to Oregon,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: going out to train with Jimmy Radcliffe, who's who's a
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: long time strength coach at Oregon, just because I was
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: focusing on my speed and agility. So I went out
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: there and my my chiropractor, Eric Gorman is from Oregon, UH,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: and UH loves Oregon, so he was like, hey, let's
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: go out here because he's the best. And Marcus was
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: out there. So that was the first time in ten
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: years we actually trained together. And it was such a
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: surreal moment because Marcus was the one that was showing
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: me the exercise. I was just like, dang, like, Marcaus,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: you done have this upper hand on me this whole time.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: You could have been put me on the like what's
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: going on? But it was it was such a respectable
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: moment because you know I got a chance to meet
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: his wife then, and he was I remember him playing
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: soccer with his wife at prolific athletes. Like his mental
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: was already ahead, like to focusing on his his family,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: his journey, Like he wasn't into all the things that
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I was into. He was focused on like me, like
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: my family, I'm about to have this opportunity. I'm gonna
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: focus on that. I was talking. Man, I got this opportunity.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: IM about to make the most of the Man. We
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: got to win the super Bowl. Man, I just won
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the championship. Man, it is unstoppable. And it's the only
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: person that beat me in my college career. So I
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: know I'm gonna be better than him. I'm focused on
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: that less. But he's focusing from the like he's focused
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: from more of a creative mindset. It was like, I
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: have my family, I have my gifts. I'm gonna go
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: and steward that and I'm gonna go to I'm focusing
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: more from the competitive mindset, like I'm gonna be better
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: than you. I'm gonna be Doe. I'm gonna do this
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: and that. And you can never have the sense focus
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: from the competitive mindset, right, you have to remain creative
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: because if you're competitive, you focus on one thing, one
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: thing open. But when you create a you're able to adapt,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: you able to uh make a transition when the transition
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: is required.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: It's such a breath of fresh air because you talked
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: to the normal thing with I'll just speak for football
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: players because what I.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Remember is like.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I got some special kids.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: You always sit there and you're like, yo, I got
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I had to my shoulder, and then you sort of
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: have success and you feel that chip on your shoulder
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: kind of going away. But then somebody is drafted ahead
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: of you, or somebody does what they say, here's a
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: better for me and better tackle than me. And it
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: was like that's all I needed to replant this this
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: chip on my shoulder. So like, did you and Marcus
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: ever like ten years later sit down and be like, hey,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I the way I approached the competition between us, I
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: favor the way you did it over the way I
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: did it was the ever that like transparent conversation between
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: you two.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: No we haven't had we haven't had our yearly heart
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: to heart yet, but no, we we had was just
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: a moment of grace, a moment of peace. I was
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: like man, Bro, like, I'm grateful you're still in the lead.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: And you're like, Bro, I'm grateful, like you're still in
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: the lead. Like, Bro, We we did it. We live
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: in our dream together. So no matter what was our
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: initial approach when we first started, we are here now.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: So let's focus on what we're gonna do moving forward.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: And like and when he had this great game in
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Watchington shot tax When I had a few good games,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: he shot me a text. And that is a relationship
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: that we never developed through the course of ten years.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: But with maturity, with growth, with gratefulness and understanding that man,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: it's bigger than me. I can't let this, this this
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: game get in between some of the relationships and from
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: the in some of the from in front of the
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: good people that I have in my life.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're known for your speeches. When was the first
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: speech first we gave? How old were you?
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: You stood up?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: You're like, all right, I'm gonna go ahead and do it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand up in front of this team and
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna deliver something race. I don't know what it's
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: gonna be, but I gotta say something.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Man. I always had something to say, So like that
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I've never been short winning the breath, you know, like,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: and I remember like the best Tiger days. I'm like, man,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: we're going tear the hands off. Man, these boys can't
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: mess with us. I remember the murder, murder, kill kill.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Guess what happened on the fields. Tigers got crumped. The
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: other team got stumped, you know, Like that's just that's
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: just the way of the land.
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: Like, like, y'alls over there, who are we, Yeah, let's
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: rip that job, no doubt, We're gonna out bare crawl
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: them today.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: And were thinking about we're kicking the door down. What
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: y'all doing over there? You know what I'm saying, honestly,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: but honestly, bro, Like, I feel like, uh, the Lord
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: strewing me with a voice. And I felt like early
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: on in my career that boys was taken away from
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: me because of my energy being put to trying to
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: prove to everybody who I was. And when you are
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: in a place of proving and constantly proving, you lose
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: sight of your true growth. You lose sight of that
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: true grace that you should give yourself. You lose sight
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: of who you truly are because you so immerse what
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: someone else is thinking, and like one thing I love
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: about just about Jesus in general, like when I forget
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: what chapter it was, but I know. In Matthew six
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: thirty three, he talks about seeking first the kingdom of
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: the Lord and all his righteousness when someone is asking him,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: like what two things should I take with me to
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: be able to get into heaven? And he says, first,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: seek first the kingdo of God and all his rightousness,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: and all things will be given to you. And the
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: second thing, he says, love thy neighbor as thyself. And
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: when I get to that point, obviously, like everything I
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: do is for my faith, My foundations is in the Lord.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: But when I get to love thy neighbor as thyself,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: when I be speaking to young kids, I'd be like, man,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: he says, love that neighbor self. So if you're not
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: loving yourself, if you're not putting sweat, equality, and time
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: into yourself, you will not be able to physically love
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: your neighbor. You will not be able to physically serve
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: someone else if you're not focusing on what you can
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: do to be the solution for you. And that really
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: just sit with me, and it encourages me every single
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: day like when I'm me new people, when I'm talking
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: to my teammates, when I'm kissing my babies, is like, man,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: I'm about to love my baby as I love myself.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: But first, I got to make sure that my proles
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: is straight. I got to make sure that I'm doing
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: things in an efficient way. I got to make sure that
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: I'm acting and not just saying. I gotta make sure
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: that I'm doing all these things for me to be
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: able to be physically and mentally able to love someone
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: else and serve someone else in the capacity that I
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: may want to be served in. I know that's deep.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I'm trying to hit you
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: out with Bible service. But it's just a guy.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: It's a god in me. You know, has always came natural.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Like whether it's you're you know, trying to rally the
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: troops in middle school, high school, has that always came.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Natural to you?
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: It has? It has always came natural. I've never been
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: really lost for words, man, and uh, and I'm grateful
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: for that. My dad has obviously he's been my he's
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: been my coach coming up, and it was kind of
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: a it was kind of a way for me to
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: get on some of my teammates butts because it was
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: always my fault, you know what I'm saying. Like he
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: was always trying to hype me up and like like
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: you need to do this, you need to do that.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Like he stayed on me. He pushed me to that
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: maximum level. So I'm like gonna push me. I'm gonna
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: push y'all ass because y'all don't understand what I'm going
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: through at home. Y'all, y'all, y'all, just y'all just said practice, y'all.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Ain't y'all, ain't y'all ain't end up blowing off some
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: small cassett takes. So your dad for your daddy, because
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: we got old BC DHS casset taste that we got
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: to put in a little thing and then put it
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: in the in the in the bc R and then
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: rewind it. And we said, watching tape of our little
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: league games. I'm like that, like does does my uncle?
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: May you gotta record all our games? Like yes, you're
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: gonna watch this save you're about to see what you
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: did while you foot on right there like that. I
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: don't know. I'm trying to have fun. So how old
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: are you man, I start watching film when I was
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: six years old. Man's like, literally no, literally old DHS tapes. Man.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: My dad pulling me in the back room like hey man,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: you knowing what your homework? Yes, all right, come on
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: in here, like literally, go give me that little tape
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: right there when they had the liberty tapes, like the
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: little cassette tape that you will put inside the DHS
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: because that like you have the cam cordy little tap,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: put it in a little adapter and then push it
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: in there. Man, Like I was like, man, and then
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: you know, lily tastes my uncle may up there. God,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: race is so like he's he just see me going
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: to touchdown the film over there? Jo jo yo jo,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to touch down over there. I'm like, Dad,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: what are I supposed to be looking at? Right here? My shelf?
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: I hit you in your mouth. I'm just I'm just saying,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Holy it was a touchdown? You know, I ain't about
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: to touch down. You can't get a touchdown until you
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: got a first down? Here did you get a first down?
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: But I got a touchdown? How many first downs? Was
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: amount of y'alls that I had to get a first down?
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: But nah? I created my dad for like really giving
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: me that voice, man, because he was always encouraging me
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: to one be accountable with what I'm doing. And two,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: if you see something, say something, If you feel something,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: say something. Don't just sit here look at me and
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: tell me. I was finna say this, but you know what,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I ain't want to say it because I thought you
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: was gonna get mad at me. Who does that help?
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: You don't have nobody?
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: That's a massive piece of advice, you know what I'm saying?
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: How do you deal with that? So six years old,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: you're watching film like we all, I think every human
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: being goes to that rebellious face in their life. Thirteen fourteen,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: that Tostalstrem starts. It hit a little bit different. You
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: start focusing on girls a little bit more. You start
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: getting more rebellious towards your parents. How did you handle
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Did you ever have a rebellious phase with your father
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: or anybody?
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Uh? Man? One of the toughest times in my life
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: was was twenty nineteen, man, when I felt like I
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: was growing as a man, as an individual, but my
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: dad was going through some pains. I lost my grandmother,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: his mother of the year before, and my uncle. My
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: uncle died on my birthday, you know, you know, it
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: was just an early phase of COVID on my birthday
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: of twenty nineteen, and it was tough for him. And
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: that was one of the first well he was He
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: died the next year, but he was balancing sicknesses and
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: stuff and it was tough for him. And he decided,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: like I'm not gonna go to any of your games.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: And like I'm okay, okay, we if we're playing New York.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He don't life flying. I
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: get that, you know, but you know I'm coming into
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: my home games. He was like, no, I just don't.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: I don't think so I don't think I won't come
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: into your games. And it was the first time where
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: like me and he was like bomping his I was
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: like hold on now, like man, like this one is
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: my contract year, like too, like I need you now
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: more than ever. You know what I'm saying, You've been
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: in my life. I'm fortunate to have a dad in
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: my life, and you decigning not to come to my games.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: This whole time. I found out that my uncle will
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: see after that, like he just was going through it
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: because because it's his mom, and I've never seen him
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: in that way, and he didn't allow me to see
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: him in that way until I was down bad, until
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: you know, until I'm going into the Bucks facility in
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: the middle of COVID training my butt off, like knowing
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: that the world is shut down, but I see signs
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: of TB twelve being built in the middle of COVID.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I said, now, how in the hell are not able
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: to build a TB twelve in the middle of COVID,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: and like, and nothing is announced yet, but I'm going
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: to the facility still, like, man, I'm gonna get a
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: chance to work with Tom Brady. Oh my goodness, it
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: is gonna be amazing. And then breaking news Tom Brady
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: has just signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And I'm
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: just sitting there like I knew that TV twelve there
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: ain't done. Nothing happened by coincidence, Like I'm sitting there
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: getting my life and I'm going through it with my dad,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Like I just been broken NFL record with thirty touch
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: thirty three touches down, thirty interceptions, Like I ain't nobody
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: gonna ever break that ever. They just they're not confident enough.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: But man, I just had this and at the same time,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: like like me and my dad were going through it
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: because I'm like, man, like this is my biggest hit ever,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: like and you're not that for me, but a little better.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I was like, man, I went, I wasn't dead for
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: you either, because and sometimes in African American communities, like, yeah,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: we have a dad present, but we're not consistently communicating
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: with our father all the time. It's through sports, it's
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: through uh, it's through discipline. Where we are communicating with
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: our fathers. We never sit there and have the quality
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: time because our fathers are either grinding or out to
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: have just a heart to heart conversation, you know. And
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I and that's why I take pride of like sitting
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: down at a table with my wife and kids and
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: saying like, man, if you could change anything about the
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: world today, or like what would you change, just giving
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: them that authority that like, you can speak to me
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: about anything. I want to know, what, like what pack
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: are you willing to make into this world? And I
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: do believe that my relationship with my dad has grown
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: since that those two years, just because we actually had
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: to see each other both in downstages and we didn't
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: want either of us to be in that in that role,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: but there was things and internally that we both was
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: facing that we had no choice but to confess and
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: come out with because we both were in a down
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: bad situation.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Question for you with your dad, Oh, yes, the role. Okay,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: we'll get him, We'll get him in what's uh? You
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: got me curious?
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: How?
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Because obviously your dad was hard on you in a
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: great way. I mean it led you to be the
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: player that you are, the man that you are. What
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: are you as you being a father?
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Everything you've learned from being you know, fathered by your dad,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: how do you approach fatherhood with your kids knowing like, okay,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: they never did sit down and have the tough conversations
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: or have the vulnerabilities or when you're sitting at dinner
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and everything else. How has your dad raised and you
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: helped you be the father that you are. Whether it's
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the things that he taught me and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: also I'm going to do things a little bit differently,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: you know, against the things that I feel like I
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: did not get for.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Him for them as a kid.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm so blessed and grateful that the time and
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: the support that my wife gives me with my with
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: my children. Of how on top of everything she is, Like,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I think it's truely a blessing when you have a
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: partner that's like down for you. And I'm lucky because
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I met my baby when years in high school, like
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: we've been high school, sweetheart, we didnt went through everything together,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: like we didn't grow together literally grew together like interest.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: We didn't grew together. Uh you know, we didn't have heartbreak,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: we didn't have upsets. But man, when I view my
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: kids and I know I'm loving her and I'm willing
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: to sacrifice and provide and protect her. When I'm looking
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: at my babies, I want my babies to do as
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I do and not do as I say. So when
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I'm with them, I'm intentional with my words. I'm intentional
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: with my actions because I want them to be young
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: men of action and right now like six and four anyway,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: So what I'm really saying, they really probably not listen
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: or hearing me. I know one of them definitely not
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: listening to hearing me. But I do it with simple things.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: I engage with them by what they want, you know,
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: because I want my babies to know what they heart
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: truly desires because I know I always knew, well I
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: wanted to be a foot doctor, but I always knew
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: I wanted to be an NFL Super Bowl winning quarterback.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, playing Dodgers because of the
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: woman said, your hobby who inspired me to be a
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: foot doctor. She was taking care of my grandma feet
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: and my daddy feed So that's a long story. But anyway,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: for my babies, man, I just want them to do
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: as I do and not do as I say, man,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: And I want to continue to be this man of increase,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: and I want them to see me encountering with other
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: people and leading other people so that they can know like, hey,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: this is this is just what we do. This is
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: this is this ain't no facade. Like my daddy is
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: the best daddy in the world because of his actions,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: not because of what he's saying, not because what he
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: necessarily uh tell me or write down in his journal.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: You know, I think that's an important part too. I
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: have I got my receipts, you know, I got I
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: keep my journal, you know what I'm saying, So when
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I'm right, write stuff down, like I'm like I'm gonna
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: read this my six year old son. He'll sit there
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: and read what I just said. So now we're doing
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: tangible things like, man, what you're writing that down for?
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Like sho I wrote down I'm kind, I'm greatful, I'm confident, man,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: because I need those affirmations just as much as you,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: my son. You know. Okay, So you're talking to yourself like, well, yes,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: I'm talking to myself. But we have the ability to
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: speak life into ourselves. Like, so, so you're still talking
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: to yourself though, Dad, I'm like, but it's okay to
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: talk to yourself. We actually talk to ourselves more than
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: anybody else. And he's like, okay, and you don't understand
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: the impact that you're making because they're still processing.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Break by breakfast.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: That is awesome.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: It is as two.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Guys with kids as well.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: That's awesome to hear that you're doing everything I know
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: you'll do.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Saying that he's got boys, I know I got girls.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I'm praying two girls, two girls. They're the best to
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the throne.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Underneath one.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: This question is so tailored to you. I hope you
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: embrace it and you love it. It's halftime. The three
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: of us were down three scores. We got to rally
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: the troops. What are you saying to the boys at halftime?
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Coach looks, everybody says a couple of words, jamet's bring
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: them up.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, it's zero zero. What happened already happened. But
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: it ain't nothing that we can do but act. Now.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Let's act. Now, let's get busy. Let's go out there
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: and let's dominate the line of scrimmage. First, let's make
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: sure that we execute in the red zone. We're gonna
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: get down there. I'm gonna throw it all over there.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: But let's make sure that we are populating the football
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: on defense. Let's make sure that we are attacking the
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: football on offense. I'm talking to your receis because i'mnna.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Let you get it all right. Here we go, team
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: on three, one two three, Team.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Beautiful love, beautiful bither. Thank you for your time. This
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: has been incredible. Legitimately, thanks, I appreciate you. Man, it's
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: been a minute. We've been one to make this happen
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: for a while now. I've been talking with Joe, But sincerely,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: thank you for coming.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: I'm grateful for you. Thank you.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, it appreciate you.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, Sir appreciate you.