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330: Sister Wives Rewind - Anthropologists Move In (S8 E5) · Reality TV Cringe

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Speaker 1: you in fans. Now, I don't know that there's gonna
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Speaker 1: be a ton to talk about in this recap, Beatrice,
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Speaker 1: because not a lot happened, but I'm gonna give it
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Speaker 1: the old college try. Did you have a takeaway before
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Speaker 1: we get started, something that struck you as odd?
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Speaker 2: I think the thing that struck me was just like,
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Speaker 2: why are we having people study the Browns like they're.
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Speaker 1: In a zoo? Like there's such a there's such a commodity.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, but like it's just kind of
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Speaker 2: weird to have these grad students coming over to be like,
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, so tell me about the dynamic and like,
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Speaker 2: let me see how you guys were together, and Coody,
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Speaker 2: how does the big you feel is the patriarch.
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Speaker 1: It's like weird to me, very strange. My thought was
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Speaker 1: I did not like the male archaeologist. Yeah, he was
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Speaker 1: kind of a douche. There was something about him. It
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Speaker 1: was a vibration, it was the cut of his jib.
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Speaker 1: I was just not into it. He seemed very judgmental,
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Speaker 1: very full of himself, very toxic mesquey totally, and I
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Speaker 1: was like just tuning him out. Yeah, but I did
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Speaker 1: think that there were some interesting revelations that came through
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Speaker 1: as a result of their visit, for sure. So let's
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Speaker 1: get into it. We are doing a recap for season eight,
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Speaker 1: episode five, and tattled Anthropologists move in. Okay, take it away, Beatrice.
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Speaker 2: Well, we had Annie move in last week, and everything's
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Speaker 2: going well and going smoothly, and the kids are starting
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Speaker 2: to adjust to having another adult in the home because
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Speaker 2: you know, Cody's not there ever. And then Cody comes
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Speaker 2: up with the bright idea like, yeah, lots, have these
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Speaker 2: anthropologists come and live with us for four days and
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Speaker 2: study us, so that way we can have content to film.
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Speaker 1: For season eight that part.
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Speaker 2: And so Cody gathers all of the family up at
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Speaker 2: one of the wives's house and says, Hey, we're gonna
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Speaker 2: have these two weirdos come over from UNLV and ask
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Speaker 2: us questions and figure out why we are the way
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Speaker 2: we are. And the adults do say to the kid, like,
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Speaker 2: you know, you don't have to answer any of the
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Speaker 2: questions that they ask if you're uncomfortable with it, like
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Speaker 2: these are just weird people study for their PhD, I guess,
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Speaker 2: and they want to study us. And so then we
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Speaker 2: go over to like a little briefing at the school,
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Speaker 2: I guess, with the two anthropology students that are going
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Speaker 2: to be living with the Browns for a bit and
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Speaker 2: their professor, and we meet the anthropologists. One is named Antonette,
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Speaker 2: the other is named Richard. I think I didn't catch
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Speaker 2: his name at first. I had to rewatch it to
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Speaker 2: figure it out. But essentially they're discussing, you know what
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Speaker 2: they're going to be studying with the Browns, and I
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Speaker 2: think it's the professor who says, I really want you
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Speaker 2: to find out who's the love wife, who's the sex wife,
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Speaker 2: who's the money wife. You need to figure that out
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Speaker 2: and then come back and write a paper about it,
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Speaker 2: which I just think is kind of interesting because we
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Speaker 2: don't really get an answer to that, to any of
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Speaker 2: those questions in this episode.
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Speaker 1: Is it going to be next episode?
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Speaker 2: I'm hoping, ok, I forget yeah, because these episodes were
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Speaker 2: kind of like whatever to me. I'm like, just get
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Speaker 2: to the catfish, just get the doors, yes, get to
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Speaker 2: the good stuff, please gosh. And then we have the
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Speaker 2: Browns actually meeting the anthropology students like in their cul
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Speaker 2: de sac, and Janelle in particular is kind of worried
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Speaker 2: about it because she's worried about them judging her and
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Speaker 2: judging their family, because she says, once they went public
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Speaker 2: with the show and with their family, they experienced intense
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Speaker 2: bigotry and discrimination.
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Speaker 1: And I'm just like, from from who, from your own community,
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe from your fellow polygamists, But I don't really
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Speaker 1: think there were a lot of civilians like us that
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Speaker 1: were judging them. I don't think so. I think we
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Speaker 1: were fascinated. I think we were open to it as
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Speaker 1: a society, but they always need to be victim.
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Speaker 2: They do.
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Speaker 1: They've always got to be nailing themselves up on some cross.
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Speaker 2: It's really annoying if anybody's judging any it's me judging
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Speaker 2: Cody Brown. Yeah, like that's it.
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Speaker 1: At all times. Didn't you think that Robin was also
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Speaker 1: a little leery about them, Yeah, coming into the cul
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Speaker 1: de sac.
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Speaker 2: The whole entire time, Robin's given off the vibe like
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Speaker 2: she doesn't want them there at all. She seems really
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Speaker 2: weird about the whole thing. And like when they were
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Speaker 2: first introduced to them, Robin asked them, you know, like
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Speaker 2: are you religious, because you know this is a religious
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Speaker 2: thing for us, and we want to make sure like
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Speaker 2: we're on the same page or whatever. And like one
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Speaker 2: of them, Antonette is like, I'm spiritual, and the other
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Speaker 2: guy's like, no, I'm an atheist.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So I feel like Robin after she heard that, was like, oh,
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Speaker 2: I don't like these people, right. I feel like she
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Speaker 2: is very wary of them coming in and judging them
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Speaker 2: and also seeing her for who she is as the
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Speaker 2: favorite love and sex wife.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of what I was wondering. It almost felt
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Speaker 1: like she was being very secretive and worried about what
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Speaker 1: they were going to see when they got a glimpse
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Speaker 1: behind the curtain. And it's also just further affirmation that
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Speaker 1: for someone who is so worried all the time about
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Speaker 1: being judged, she's really judgmental toad of people who don't
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Speaker 1: practice what they practice, who don't think like they do.
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Speaker 1: So it's not just being worried for themselves, it's also
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Speaker 1: like she's judging them.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, she definitely is. And I do appreciate the editing
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Speaker 2: of this episode because at one point I forget where
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Speaker 2: it was at. You know, all of the anthropology students
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Speaker 2: are touring each one of the wives's homes, and they
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Speaker 2: get to Robin's home, and of course Cody greets her
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Speaker 2: with like a lot of gentleness and kindness. He goes
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Speaker 2: up and kisses her very lovingly and sweetly, and then
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Speaker 2: we have like a cut to a little talking head
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Speaker 2: with the anthropology students and they're like, oh yeah, like
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Speaker 2: you know, usually in these dynamics there's a favorite wife,
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Speaker 2: and you know, I feel like Cody handles it well
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Speaker 2: for now, but like you can tell, there's some preferences there,
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Speaker 2: and I'm.
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Speaker 1: Like Chef's kissing, and then cut to him going to
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Speaker 1: Mary's house. The archaeologists are going to be staying with Mary,
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Speaker 1: because nobody stays with Mary. She's known on this Mormon
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Speaker 1: planet of her life. I caught that, And so he
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Speaker 1: kind of gives Mary a side hug much colder than
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Speaker 1: the hug that he gave to Robin.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, So I think they were clocking that for sure.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how can you not, like if it was
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Speaker 2: so obvious to all of us watching even back then
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Speaker 2: and now doing a rewatch, it's like, of course these
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Speaker 2: PhD candidates are going to pick up on that. But
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Speaker 2: what I thought was interesting is like when the students
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Speaker 2: arrive with the Browns and are getting settled in, you know,
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Speaker 2: they're saying to the wives, like, don't treat us like guests,
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Speaker 2: Like we really want to just kind of seamlessly integrate
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Speaker 2: and just observe and watch you guys for the spectacle
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Speaker 2: that you are, so, like, please don't treat us like
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Speaker 2: guests or with any special treatment. And Christine's like, well,
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Speaker 2: I can't not do that. We treat everybody like guests.
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Speaker 2: And we have this little blurb on the couch with
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Speaker 2: the Browns, and Christine says something like, you know, I'm
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Speaker 2: really looking for the approval of these students. I want
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Speaker 2: them to confirm and reassure me that my family is effective.
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's an interesting thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, to say she kind of said it like a joke,
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Speaker 1: But I was wondering whether now is about the time
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Speaker 1: in season eight, whether Christine on a more global level
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Speaker 1: is questioning not just the family but her role in it,
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Speaker 1: her marriage and all of those things. It seemed like
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Speaker 1: a question that might have been born of that.
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Speaker 2: I think so, And it wasn't just Christine that echoed that.
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Speaker 2: We also had Cody say something to the effect of like, well,
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Speaker 2: I don't care about what people think, but at the
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Speaker 2: same time, I'm really looking for these opinions from these students,
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Speaker 2: and I want to know that what we're doing is
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Speaker 2: right and our family is good. And I'm just like,
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Speaker 2: why are you guys so insecure about it? Obviously we
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Speaker 2: know now it's because at this time we have multiple
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Speaker 2: marriages that are failing. We have Mary and Christine's at
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Speaker 2: the very least, that are suffering with Cody, and we
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Speaker 2: have all of this underlying tension that the viewers at
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Speaker 2: the time, you know, weren't privy too, but it's like,
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Speaker 2: it's just interesting to me that they're like really looking
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Speaker 2: for some kind of approval from these weird students, some
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Speaker 2: kind of validation yep, yep. And then we have you know, Richard,
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Speaker 2: the other anthropology student, you know, talking about how there's
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Speaker 2: lots of kids.
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Speaker 1: Here, it's a lot of energy, and I'm like, well, dug,
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Speaker 1: it's a polygamist family. Yeah, for fertile wives, I mean
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Speaker 1: except for Mary Well. Yikes, sorry, yikes, I didn't mean
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Speaker 1: it like that's true though, but I mean women who
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Speaker 1: were you know, having babies.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, stuff, lots of babies, especially Robin. But he brings
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Speaker 2: this up and he poses the question like, you know,
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Speaker 2: how can Cody really give all of his kids undivided
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Speaker 2: attention or how can any of the adults give their
10:52
Speaker 2: kids undivided attention when you have one million children? And
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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, good point.
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Speaker 1: Therein lies the rub.
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Speaker 2: We know Cody didn't give anybody attention except for Robin's,
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Speaker 2: me and party children. And then we have this like
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Speaker 2: discussion about you know, I think Cody's the one that
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Speaker 2: asks the students because he's trying to be all smart
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Speaker 2: or whatever, and he's like, so throughout all human history,
11:17
Speaker 2: like were we monogamous or were we polygamous? And like,
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Speaker 2: what's you know, the best way to go about it?
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Speaker 2: And I think Richard's the one that's like, well, you know,
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Speaker 2: humans aren't meant to be monogamous or something, which I
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Speaker 2: just thought was so stupid.
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Speaker 1: Well, they said something like humans mate with flexibility, depending
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Speaker 1: on where we are in the timeline, depending on society,
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Speaker 1: depending on culture, Like we mate according to those mores. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but Cody just wants to be told that their way
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Speaker 1: of life, the polygamist's way of life, is the right
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Speaker 1: way to do life.
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Speaker 2: Right, which is kind of interesting to me because maybe
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Speaker 2: he's also having a crisis of faith at this point
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Speaker 2: in time because he's fallen in love with Robin and
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Speaker 2: at this point he favors Robin, he prefers her, and
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Speaker 2: maybe he's starting to fall out of love.
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Speaker 1: With the rest of starting too. Yeah, and he's already
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Speaker 1: been doing it, but you know what I mean, And
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Speaker 1: it's never in love with Christine, No, not at all.
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Speaker 2: And maybe he's just realizing like, oh shit, like maybe
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Speaker 2: I picked the wrong path.
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Speaker 1: Or maybe yeah, maybe I'm monogamous, maybe I want to
12:19
Speaker 1: be monogamous exactly.
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Speaker 2: And then the family has a dinner with the students,
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Speaker 2: and this is where the Browns want to play a prank,
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Speaker 2: which I did think this was kind of funny, but
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Speaker 2: I don't think the students thought it was very funny.
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Speaker 2: But all of the wives wanted to give Cody an
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Speaker 2: offering of their food, and they wanted to be like
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Speaker 2: totally serious about it, just to kind of freak out
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Speaker 2: the students, and the students kind of took them seriously
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Speaker 2: for a second, until, of course Robin and Mary were
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Speaker 2: busting up laughing in the kitchen.
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Speaker 1: Because they can't keep shit together well. And the students
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Speaker 1: are not supposed to say anything in the moment if
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Speaker 1: this is the culture of the family, and so they
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Speaker 1: were just observing. And then when they went out to
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Speaker 1: the back and did they revealed that this was just
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Speaker 1: a prank, that we don't honor Cody in this way.
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Speaker 1: We don't honor this asshole at at all. That's why
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Speaker 1: they're laughing so hard, because they would never do such
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Speaker 1: a thing as to serve their husband. Yep. And the
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Speaker 1: archaeologists took that instride.
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Speaker 2: They did eventually, I felt like they thought it was
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Speaker 2: a little weird at first, but then they have like
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Speaker 2: these random moments where they're like posing these questions to
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Speaker 2: the Browns. And I think it was Richard who brought
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Speaker 2: up like the idea of marriage in general, and like
13:31
Speaker 2: why do people even get married? Like it doesn't even matter?
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Speaker 2: And we know that Richard is divorced, so of course
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Speaker 2: he's asking this question of like what's the point of marriage,
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Speaker 2: and like, you know, why did you guys choose to
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Speaker 2: get married? I mean, most people just live together and
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Speaker 2: fourn kate without a piece of paper. And it's this
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Speaker 2: point where Robin gets kind of upset and she has
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Speaker 2: a little talking head where she's just like, you know,
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Speaker 2: no disrespect, but.
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Speaker 1: All disrespect, all disrespect.
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Speaker 2: I feel like he's totally judging us, like and he's
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Speaker 2: trying to say that this is the right way to live,
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Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, but like that's not what we believe her.
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Speaker 1: Plus, I don't want my kids to hear anything that
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Speaker 1: they're saying. I don't want my kids to know that
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Speaker 1: another way of life is even an option.
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Speaker 2: Yikes, which is so weird and antithetical to like what
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Speaker 2: the OG three correct.
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Speaker 1: They are progressive polygamous.
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Speaker 2: They are, but not Robin, I guess. So it's very strange,
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Speaker 2: and I'm looking forward to next week's episode because it
14:35
Speaker 2: looks like I know, I'm jupping ahead. But they start
14:37
Speaker 2: asking the question about like, how would you feel if
14:39
Speaker 2: one of your kids wanted to be in a same
14:41
Speaker 2: sex relationship? And I'm curious to see what Robin thinks
14:44
Speaker 2: about it, because methinks she's a bigot. Oh that's just
14:49
Speaker 2: my opinion.
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Speaker 1: Wasn't she the first one to stand up and give
14:52
Speaker 1: Leon a hug after Leon came out?
14:55
Speaker 2: That could be hella performative? Okay, I'm just gonna put it.
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Speaker 1: Right there, all right.
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Speaker 2: And so so with Robin being uncomfortable about the whole
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Speaker 2: marriage conversation, Richard and Antoinette they're not stupid. They pick
15:06
Speaker 2: up on this right away, and they understand that she
15:09
Speaker 2: is uncomfortable with some of their questions, but they hope
15:11
Speaker 2: that they can continue to ask stuff and see if
15:15
Speaker 2: they can get answers from her. But I feel like
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Speaker 2: they're not going to And then the Browns host church
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Speaker 2: in one of their houses, and I'm just like.
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Speaker 1: Cap, why are we doing this?
15:27
Speaker 2: Cas?
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Speaker 1: This is so performative they don't have church anymore. First
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Speaker 1: of all, I don't think they were even having church
15:34
Speaker 1: when they first moved to Vegas and they were all
15:36
Speaker 1: living in their rentals. I think it's probably been a
15:40
Speaker 1: couple of years, two three, four years since they performed
15:43
Speaker 1: church with Cody as the pastor. Yeah, so it was
15:47
Speaker 1: really strange. And plus a lot of the older kids
15:50
Speaker 1: didn't even show up. Logan's like I'm going rock climbing,
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Speaker 1: basic Leon is somewhere in Utah. Yeah, Maddie refuses to
15:58
Speaker 1: go to church because we'll get into it. But it
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Speaker 1: was just so strange. Why do you guys feel the
16:04
Speaker 1: need to do this kind of stuff?
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Speaker 2: Because Cody's a narc so he's so concerned about his image,
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Speaker 2: and I think he's doing this purely for the students,
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Speaker 2: like not even the show, because we haven't seen them
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Speaker 2: do church and except for like one time where they
16:18
Speaker 2: did it and then they just stopped entirely. But it
16:21
Speaker 2: just felt so fake, fake, so fake and like uncoordinated,
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Speaker 2: Like I'm just like, you don't do this on the rag.
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Speaker 1: It's strange.
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Speaker 2: It's very strange, and even the students pick up on that,
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Speaker 2: and they pick up on the fact that a lot
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Speaker 2: of the older kids are not participating in it, and
16:37
Speaker 2: they think that that's very weird. But again, like you
16:40
Speaker 2: had said, they acknowledge that this family is quite progressive
16:43
Speaker 2: and that they do allow a lot of their kids,
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Speaker 2: except for Robin, to choose their own life paths and
16:49
Speaker 2: to choose their own faiths. And then this kind of
16:51
Speaker 2: segues into Maddie, who apparently at this time sent a
16:56
Speaker 2: text to her family being like, I'm joining the LDS church.
17:01
Speaker 2: I feel sorry about it, And so she wants to
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Speaker 2: join LDS. The Browns are nervous about it because they
17:10
Speaker 2: don't want her to distance herself entirely from the family
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Speaker 2: because they are all a bunch of degenerate polygamists, and
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Speaker 2: according to the LDS faith, that's a no no. And
17:21
Speaker 2: so that's why we see her in this episode completely disengaged,
17:25
Speaker 2: not participating in the church service whatsoever. She's just on
17:28
Speaker 2: her phone in Janelle's living room, not given a FuG right.
17:33
Speaker 2: And then we have a whole discussion with the adults
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Speaker 2: and Madison about why she wants to join the LDS church.
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Speaker 1: And apparently it was said previously by Cody to Maddie
17:45
Speaker 1: that the only reason she wants to convert to LDS
17:49
Speaker 1: is because of a boy. And so the question for
17:52
Speaker 1: me again is because this is my first time going
17:55
Speaker 1: through these seasons. Is Caleb in the picture somewhere in
17:58
Speaker 1: the background, And I'm wondering, are Caleb and Maddie currently
18:02
Speaker 1: Year of Our Lord twenty twenty six? Are they LDS Mormons?
18:05
Speaker 1: What's their faith life? Like? I don't know. I thought
18:08
Speaker 1: it was revealing when I think it was Janelle who said,
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Speaker 1: I'm just worried that you becoming a Mormon means you're
18:16
Speaker 1: no longer going to affiliate with your family. Yeah, And
18:20
Speaker 1: Maddie kind of paused a little bit. She didn't jump
18:23
Speaker 1: right in and say, of course not. You are always
18:26
Speaker 1: going to be my family. I love you, I'm a
18:28
Speaker 1: part of this family. She kind of paused, and she's like, no,
18:32
Speaker 1: I just can't align with your religion. But it felt
18:36
Speaker 1: like she was considering some kind of a break from
18:38
Speaker 1: the family. Was that just me?
18:40
Speaker 2: It felt like that to me too, Okay, And it
18:42
Speaker 2: was weird that she had a little bit of a
18:44
Speaker 2: hesitation because she did say she was told by the
18:47
Speaker 2: church leaders or whatever that she did need to completely
18:51
Speaker 2: disassociate herself from her family's religion, but I don't know
18:55
Speaker 2: if that means she also has to completely disconnect from
18:59
Speaker 2: her family. I don't think she ultimately does, because she
19:02
Speaker 2: ends up getting married to Caleb soon and her entire
19:05
Speaker 2: family is included. And whatever.
19:07
Speaker 1: I know the LDS refuses to communicate, is it excommunicate? Communicate? Yeah,
19:16
Speaker 1: I know that they refuse to bring her on board
19:18
Speaker 1: as a Mormon because of her family.
19:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's her.
19:21
Speaker 1: And then she's just like fuck them Mormons for real.
19:23
Speaker 1: So I don't know what happens with that, but she
19:26
Speaker 1: seems pretty serious about it at this time.
19:28
Speaker 2: At this point. Yeah, and it's weird because she talks
19:30
Speaker 2: about why she wanted to join the Mormon church, because
19:33
Speaker 2: the family is very curious to see what her reasoning is.
19:38
Speaker 2: And of course, you know, Maddie's like, well, I stepped
19:40
Speaker 2: foot in the LDS church, and you know, I just
19:42
Speaker 2: felt like a piece of me was missing, and I
19:44
Speaker 2: got the burning of my bosom, and like, I want
19:46
Speaker 2: to join this faith. But I really do think it's
19:49
Speaker 2: because Caleb's.
19:49
Speaker 1: There or some boy someone's there at this point, or
19:53
Speaker 1: she wants to fit in because she's going to a
19:54
Speaker 1: university at this point that they largely LDS and she's
19:58
Speaker 1: maybe one of a minority of kids who is from
20:01
Speaker 1: a polygamous family. Yep, I don't know.
20:04
Speaker 2: Well, when I was watching this back, I was at
20:07
Speaker 2: first put off by the fact that the family was
20:09
Speaker 2: like pressing her on why she wanted to do it
20:12
Speaker 2: and doing it on camera. And it's like the family,
20:15
Speaker 2: you know, up until this point has always touted that
20:18
Speaker 2: they're very open and progressive, they want their kids to
20:21
Speaker 2: make their own choices or whatever. But then the second
20:24
Speaker 2: she wants to choose the LDS faith, they're like nervous
20:29
Speaker 2: about it and weird it out. But at the same time,
20:32
Speaker 2: I can kind of understand that perspective because the LDS
20:35
Speaker 2: church is very anti polygamy and doesn't really want to
20:38
Speaker 2: be associated with that whatsoever. So yeah, I get why
20:42
Speaker 2: they're nervous about it. It's just weird to see them
20:45
Speaker 2: like pressing her so hard.
20:48
Speaker 1: Well, I'm such an outsider that I don't quite understand
20:51
Speaker 1: why there isn't more of a compatibility between LDS and
20:56
Speaker 1: aub or LDS and even some of the fundamentalists sect.
21:01
Speaker 1: They're all Mormon though, yeah, right, they share certain doctrine,
21:05
Speaker 1: they share certain covenants. They probably have a shared vision
21:09
Speaker 1: of faith and the afterlife. But I guess the issue
21:13
Speaker 1: of polygamy is so contentious that if you participate in it,
21:16
Speaker 1: then you're just persona non grata. Like there should still
21:20
Speaker 1: be enough in common that they would have love and
21:22
Speaker 1: respect for one another, like Presbyterians and Lutherans and Methodists.
21:27
Speaker 1: I mean, you're all still Christian though, no, for real,
21:29
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
21:30
Speaker 2: And it's the Church of Latter day Saints of Jesus
21:32
Speaker 2: Christ or whatever. So I'm like, if you're practicing Jesus
21:36
Speaker 2: Christ's words and principles and stuff, doesn't he say love
21:39
Speaker 2: thy neighbor or whatever?
21:40
Speaker 1: Who cares about that one? I guess what does the
21:42
Speaker 1: salamander say?
21:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't drink coffee though, that's right? Bad?
21:46
Speaker 1: Yes, whatever?
21:48
Speaker 2: Sorry, I know that's.
21:49
Speaker 1: Probably offensive to people, but I don't care.
21:51
Speaker 2: I don't care. And then we go to the.
21:55
Speaker 1: Movies the Family Why, Like this is such a random
22:01
Speaker 1: segment again, just filler content, and we have to see
22:05
Speaker 1: the coordination or lack thereof, because they're not organized. They've
22:09
Speaker 1: got to get their entire one thousand member family into
22:13
Speaker 1: various and sundry minivans. Head on over to Galaxy Quest
22:16
Speaker 1: or whatever and order twenty six tickets, and thank god,
22:21
Speaker 1: I don't care.
22:23
Speaker 2: I don't care at all, except for the price of
22:25
Speaker 2: all of the tickets, because it was one hundred and
22:26
Speaker 2: seventy six dollars.
22:27
Speaker 1: And I feel like, if that was.
22:29
Speaker 2: For twenty six people, for twenty six people, and I
22:31
Speaker 2: feel like, if that was today, honey, it'd be like
22:34
Speaker 2: three hundred dollars.
22:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd have to go get one of them pay
22:37
Speaker 1: day loans for one thousand dollars. And then Christine said
22:39
Speaker 1: it was like fifty dollars each her mom yep, for
22:43
Speaker 1: con sessions. Yeah, for candy and things like that. That
22:45
Speaker 1: would also be one hundred and fifty dollars in this
22:48
Speaker 1: day and age at lease.
22:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so of course we buy the tickets and
22:53
Speaker 2: then we have to watch the fucking check out girl
22:55
Speaker 2: print each to get individually, and it takes one million years,
22:59
Speaker 2: and we watch some dumb movie and then we leave
23:06
Speaker 2: the movie theater and we go out to the parking
23:08
Speaker 2: lot and this is where we have a fight breakout
23:12
Speaker 2: between Garrison and Gabe Dun Dun Dune, which honestly made
23:15
Speaker 2: me upset because I hate that This is like a
23:19
Speaker 2: moment that's memorialized for Garrison since he's no longer with us.
23:23
Speaker 2: But ultimately, what this fight shows is how Cody has
23:28
Speaker 2: to be the disciplinarian because Janell ain't doing shit. Sorry
23:31
Speaker 2: about it, she ain't doing shit. And we have like security,
23:36
Speaker 2: like the mall cop coming out.
23:38
Speaker 1: Trying to do you need anything over here?
23:41
Speaker 2: I'm a big security mall cop. I can help you.
23:45
Speaker 2: It's like so stupid. But what was interesting about this
23:48
Speaker 2: is the anthropology students witnessing it. Janelle is embarrassed because
23:53
Speaker 2: she's like, I don't want them to think that I'm
23:55
Speaker 2: a bad mom. Yikeskes, But they make a statement saying,
24:02
Speaker 2: you know, there's obviously something that's been boiling under the
24:05
Speaker 2: surface for quite a long time, and it erupted into
24:09
Speaker 2: this physical altercation. And I thought that was very poignant
24:13
Speaker 2: because I do think that that's what's going on. And
24:16
Speaker 2: you know, you have these two boys going through puberty,
24:19
Speaker 2: they're two brothers. They probably fight like this all the
24:22
Speaker 2: fucking time. Obviously, to me, Garrison's going through some shit
24:28
Speaker 2: and it's coming out in this fight with Gabe. And
24:31
Speaker 2: then of course we have to see Cody and Janelle
24:34
Speaker 2: yell at him and then have a whole.
24:35
Speaker 1: Discussion about it that I'm like, this is the exploitation
24:40
Speaker 1: of the kids that I absolutely detest. I mean, if
24:44
Speaker 1: you did, gens want to put your lives out there
24:48
Speaker 1: for national consumption and talk to us about your marriages
24:51
Speaker 1: and your sex lives or whatever, that's one thing. But
24:53
Speaker 1: to showcase the squabbles of your minor children like very
24:58
Speaker 1: to me. It was a very normal couple of teen
25:00
Speaker 1: boys for real scrapping. I mean I was a boy,
25:03
Speaker 1: I was a girl, My brother was a boy. We
25:04
Speaker 1: were scrapping all the time. Honey. It got violent in
25:07
Speaker 1: my house. Everybody knows that life, that's how it is.
25:09
Speaker 1: But putting cameras on Garrison and Gabe was really gross
25:14
Speaker 1: to me. And then Cody like marching in as this
25:17
Speaker 1: big disciplinarian patriarch and immediately threatening to take Garrison's trip
25:24
Speaker 1: to Hawaii with his peers through rotc away from him. Yeah,
25:28
Speaker 1: he didn't even know all of the facts, he didn't
25:31
Speaker 1: know exactly what happened, but he's like immediately, I'm I'm
25:34
Speaker 1: thinking about taking that away from you. And there's stupid ass,
25:37
Speaker 1: fucking Janelle co signing it. Yeah, I think I agree,
25:40
Speaker 1: you might not be able to go to Hawaii, like what.
25:44
Speaker 2: I know. That was one issue that I had with it,
25:47
Speaker 2: Like it's it's one thing to parent your kids, one
25:50
Speaker 2: thing to like discipline them or whatever. But like the
25:52
Speaker 2: fact that they actively chose to have this part filmed is.
25:57
Speaker 1: Wild to me. And it's always Garrison, I know, oh
26:00
Speaker 1: and Gabe. I mean they are typically scrapping and getting
26:03
Speaker 1: into it and sometimes paidon. But like it seems to
26:05
Speaker 1: me that Cody kind of comes for Garrison a lot, yeah,
26:10
Speaker 1: in these seasons, and I don't like that.
26:12
Speaker 2: I don't like how we have so many of these
26:15
Speaker 2: moments televised. And it made me feel really sad for
26:19
Speaker 2: Garrison because I was kind of like this kid when
26:22
Speaker 2: I was a teenager, Like I was going through some shit,
26:25
Speaker 2: and I reacted a lot of the time out of anger,
26:27
Speaker 2: and I was sometimes beating up my sister, you know,
26:30
Speaker 2: And I was thinking back, like on all of the
26:32
Speaker 2: times I got in stupid fights with my sister, and
26:34
Speaker 2: I'm like, I would be so mortified if any of
26:37
Speaker 2: those fights were like televised or filmed for people to
26:40
Speaker 2: watch and judge me on, because these are just kids,
26:44
Speaker 2: Like you said, they're just brothers. It's like a totally
26:47
Speaker 2: normal squabble or whatever. But instead we have this like
26:50
Speaker 2: long drawn out segment of Cody and Janelle just yelling
26:54
Speaker 2: at him.
26:54
Speaker 1: Well, and you can really see how Cody is constantly
26:57
Speaker 1: looking for moments where he can be the center of
26:59
Speaker 1: a tension. Definitely, this very much could have just been settled.
27:03
Speaker 1: Janelle could have just said, Okay, guys, we're going to
27:04
Speaker 1: talk about this when we get home. Garrison, get in
27:06
Speaker 1: the back or whatever. But no, he's got to come
27:08
Speaker 1: barreling in, pointing his finger, yelling and screaming and performing
27:13
Speaker 1: fatherhood like he so often does. It's not authentic, it's
27:17
Speaker 1: not real. And maybe this is why Garrison seems to
27:20
Speaker 1: have an issue. Even now, he kind of comes across
27:23
Speaker 1: as not disturbed here, but like depressed, yeah, slow, vibrational,
27:28
Speaker 1: like there's things going on inside of Garrison already that
27:32
Speaker 1: are troubling, and especially if he's putting hands on Gabe
27:35
Speaker 1: for no reason or causing a ruckus with Gabe, Like
27:38
Speaker 1: there is something that's happening, and this is not how
27:41
Speaker 1: you would address that. If you've got a child who's
27:44
Speaker 1: got some issues, you'd handle it in a different way.
27:46
Speaker 1: But Cody's so dumb and again so performative that this
27:50
Speaker 1: is the father that we get from him, especially toward
27:52
Speaker 1: his boys.
27:53
Speaker 2: And that was also really frustrating to me because Cody
27:56
Speaker 2: was talking about how, you know, he doesn't always like
27:59
Speaker 2: to be involved in the disciplinary things with his kids
28:04
Speaker 2: because then if he's always around and he's always disciplining him,
28:07
Speaker 2: then they're gonna hate him.
28:08
Speaker 1: Or if he's never around and then he's disciplining him
28:11
Speaker 1: them when he is around, that's all they're going to
28:13
Speaker 1: think of him. He's a disciplinarian.
28:15
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, so then you're a bad parent then,
28:18
Speaker 2: because you're not around all the time.
28:19
Speaker 1: You're only doing it for the cameras. It's an opportunity.
28:24
Speaker 2: And you know, the students even called that out earlier
28:27
Speaker 2: in the episode. I think it was Antonette was the
28:29
Speaker 2: one that first came up like and said it. She's like,
28:33
Speaker 2: you know, Cody's totally a showboat. He loves to be
28:35
Speaker 2: the center of attention. And of course Richard, the toxic masculine,
28:40
Speaker 2: fucking student, he's like, well, yeah, you know, he's very
28:43
Speaker 2: into his appearance and everything, but he seems like he's
28:45
Speaker 2: a good dad and he's like prisoned or whatever, but
28:48
Speaker 2: like it seems like he does like his hair.
28:50
Speaker 1: And clothing, his clothing and stuff.
28:52
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, well, that's a nice way to
28:53
Speaker 2: say that he's a self centered asshole.
28:56
Speaker 1: He's vain.
28:57
Speaker 2: Yeaeah, they're being way too nice here. But basically the
29:01
Speaker 2: episode ends with Cody and Janelle yelling at Garrison, which
29:05
Speaker 2: is really annoying.
29:06
Speaker 1: Well, and Garrison is maintaining they're sitting in Janelle's dining room.
29:11
Speaker 1: The archaeologists are not there. This is a private family
29:14
Speaker 1: conversation with the cameras exactly with the millions of us watching.
29:19
Speaker 1: But Garrison is saying that Gabe actually hit him first,
29:23
Speaker 1: and Cody is turning to Gabe saying like, please don't
29:27
Speaker 1: lie on your brother, because if you're lying and you
29:30
Speaker 1: hit him first, like we're gonna give him a punishment
29:33
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be harsh, and you're He says something like,
29:37
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be forgiven for that. Yeah, he said
29:39
Speaker 1: something like that to Gabe, And so now Gabe, what's
29:41
Speaker 1: gab gonna do. Gabe just like, no, I'm not lying,
29:44
Speaker 1: of course I'm not lying.
29:45
Speaker 2: Not at all, And then, of course, you know, Garrison's like, well,
29:48
Speaker 2: this is how it happened, like I slapped him because
29:51
Speaker 2: he slapped me. And then Janelle's like, no, Garrison, you're
29:54
Speaker 2: a big fucking liar. I heard what you said and
29:57
Speaker 2: that you were gonna deck him, like this is an except.
30:00
Speaker 1: And then Garrison says, well, there were a couple of
30:02
Speaker 1: other people that were there, like Paiden, you could go
30:04
Speaker 1: ask them. I actually believed Garrison. I did Gabe hit
30:08
Speaker 1: him first?
30:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, But of course they're not going to
30:11
Speaker 2: ask anybody because they don't care. And like, my whole
30:15
Speaker 2: vibe with this was that like Garrison was kind of
30:17
Speaker 2: a I don't want to say, like neglected child, but
30:20
Speaker 2: maybe emotionally neglected, like they probably only really gave him
30:24
Speaker 2: attention when he was acting out, kind.
30:26
Speaker 1: Of scapegoated too a little. There are various vacations and
30:30
Speaker 1: road trips. He's always the one getting screamed at, yep
30:33
Speaker 1: for being a normal kid.
30:34
Speaker 2: And it just makes me upset.
30:36
Speaker 1: Yep.
30:36
Speaker 2: I just don't like it. And I really relate to
30:38
Speaker 2: him in that because I was totally that kid that
30:40
Speaker 2: was scapegoated a lot, and it's just it's frustrating to
30:44
Speaker 2: watch it back knowing that he's no longer with us. Yes,
30:47
Speaker 2: and I just I hate that it was televised.
30:50
Speaker 1: Yep, I agreed. Agreed.
30:52
Speaker 2: So then we get to the preview for next week.
30:54
Speaker 2: It looks like the archaeology students are still around, Yes,
30:58
Speaker 2: and we have them asking about the same sex marriage
31:02
Speaker 2: question with one of their kids, which is kind of
31:04
Speaker 2: interesting because Leon has not come out at this point
31:08
Speaker 2: in time. Leon is still hardcore repon for polygamy at
31:12
Speaker 2: this point in time. The students even ask Leon when
31:15
Speaker 2: they come into town, you know, would you want to
31:19
Speaker 2: be in a specific ranking as a wife? Would you
31:22
Speaker 2: want to be like number two? Number one? And Leon
31:28
Speaker 2: doesn't have an answer because of course, Leon is totally
31:31
Speaker 2: brainwashed at this point in time and is just parroting
31:34
Speaker 2: what they've heard from their parents. I can't wait until
31:36
Speaker 2: they're like, actually, I'm a big old basbean.
31:41
Speaker 1: I can't wait.
31:42
Speaker 2: I can't wait for that. And then we also have
31:44
Speaker 2: Antonette the student asking Janelle about the early years with
31:49
Speaker 2: Mary and what their relationship is like, which I'm hoping
31:52
Speaker 2: is going to be juicy, but you.
31:54
Speaker 1: Know, it's Janelle. She kind of probably not going to be.
31:57
Speaker 2: She gives us so many non answers.
31:59
Speaker 1: Right, but it looks like Antwinette actually read the book,
32:02
Speaker 1: so she's got some information going into that conversation, so
32:05
Speaker 1: maybe she'll ask some pointed questions. Hopefully we shall see. Yes, well,
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