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55KRC Tuesday Show - Cory Bowman, Empower U, Tom Z, Breitbart, Steve Goodin · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: 505.
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  Speaker 2: The 55KRC.
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  Speaker 3: The Talk Station. Happy Tuesday. Sugar, use a vacation.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the way the news goes.
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  Speaker 3: It is the way the news goes. Brian Thomas right here.
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  Speaker 3: Glad to be in a very happy Tuesday to you.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up at the 55 KRC morning shows me a
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  Speaker 3: nice six o'clock hour. Corey Bowman, not in studio, but
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  Speaker 3: he will be on the phone for an hour. State
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  Speaker 3: of the city. Corey Bowman, former mayoral candidate. He's got
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  Speaker 3: some thoughts and some comments, and we'll talk about the
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  Speaker 3: current issues going on in the city. You heard top
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  Speaker 3: of the hour news. I am just beside myself about
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  Speaker 3: this parking lot rules. Okay. So people steal guns from cars.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 3: Parking lot owners now are required to install cameras or
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  Speaker 3: hire a security officer?
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we can't have flaw cameras, but if you offload
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  Speaker 3: the obligation to a private business and force them to
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  Speaker 3: record all of the activities on their particular piece of property,
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  Speaker 3: then that's A-OK. Are they doing it for the purpose
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  Speaker 3: of evidence gathering for after the fact when a gun
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  Speaker 3: got stolen from a car so we can see who
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  Speaker 3: the bad guy was that stole the gun? Is it deterrence?
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  Speaker 3: Will a camera, the fact of a camera being in
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  Speaker 3: a parking lot, prevent some young person from breaking a
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  Speaker 3: window and looking in the car and stealing a gun? Question.
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  Speaker 3: Does anybody, Joe, do you think a young person might
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  Speaker 3: put a mask on? Would that, I mean, they don't
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  Speaker 3: even care about that. You mean the young people don't
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  Speaker 3: care because they know they're not going to get prosecuted
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  Speaker 3: in Hamilton County? Or the council members don't care that
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  Speaker 3: there's an obvious workaround to having a camera installed in
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  Speaker 3: a parking lot because if your face is covered up
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  Speaker 3: with a mask, then no one's going to know who
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  Speaker 3: in the hell you are. Yeah, multiple layers of nonsensical
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  Speaker 3: crap going on in this whole thing. Maybe we'll ask
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  Speaker 3: Corey Bowman about that, if he thinks that's going to
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  Speaker 3: solve the problem of violence with eight-year-old girls getting their
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  Speaker 3: heads blown off in parks by random drive-bys. Anyhow, we'll
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  Speaker 3: talk about violence in the city with Corey Bowman as
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  Speaker 3: well and maybe get a word or two about the
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  Speaker 3: more positive elements of Corey Bowman's life and perhaps his ministry. Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Jay Rissover returns. It's another week. It's another week of
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  Speaker 3: Empower You. And, of course, Dr. Jay is going to
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  Speaker 3: let us know all about it. Of course, he's taken
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  Speaker 3: over the role as the head of Empower You, which
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  Speaker 3: is a great, great opportunity for learning.
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  Speaker 6: It's free.
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  Speaker 3: It's great. You can log in at home. You can
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  Speaker 3: go to the Power You seminar live events online. Lots
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  Speaker 3: of great things going on. Tom Zalastowski, it is Tuesday.
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  Speaker 3: We the People convention. Tom Zalastowski joins the program at 7.30.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, he's still on the bandwagon of we have
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  Speaker 3: to get out and vote. That's right. You can counter
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  Speaker 3: this nonsense that's going on in the world by going
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  Speaker 3: out and voting. We'll also talk about DeWine and the
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  Speaker 3: gas tax relief. Where are we on that one? Good morning, Jay. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: $ 600 million loss to the highway funds if we take
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  Speaker 3: away the gas tax for just a short period of time.
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  Speaker 3: Same amount of money we gave to the Cleveland Browns
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  Speaker 3: to build a stadium.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, Inside Scoop. We do that every Tuesday at 8.05 today.
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  Speaker 3: Politics editor Bradley Jay. And we'll have a few things
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  Speaker 3: to go over with Bradley Jay. Not quite sure what
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  Speaker 3: they are right now. Jack Smith's office bent its own
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  Speaker 3: rules to rush software purchase days before indicting Trump. It
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  Speaker 3: appears to be one of the things we'll talk about
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  Speaker 3: with him. Anyway, we'll find out together at 8.05 with
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  Speaker 3: Bradley Jay. And finally, since it's not Daniel Davis' Deep
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  Speaker 3: Dive Day, we normally do that at 830. He is
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  Speaker 3: on vacation, so bringing back Steve Gooden with a wonderful
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  Speaker 3: op-ed piece the other day that I read out loud
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  Speaker 3: on the radio. It was his letter to Councilman Mark
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  Speaker 3: Jeffries on the things that he believes that they should do.
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  Speaker 3: Since Jeffries apparently has got an itch to be the
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  Speaker 3: mayor of the city of Cincinnati, I suppose when Aftab Provol,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what goes, runs for senator or something,
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  Speaker 3: we all expect Aftab to try to move on and up.
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  Speaker 3: Washing his hands of his obligations to the city of Cincinnati. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: Steve Gooden at 830. Love having Steve Gooden on the
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  Speaker 3: program tomorrow. Jack Atherton and Judge Ana Napolitano. Great opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to listen and get educated tomorrow on the morning show. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
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  Speaker 3: Pound 550 on AT & T phones? Yeah, okay, let's
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  Speaker 3: walk through this. Council advanced these new rules requiring cameras
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  Speaker 3: or security guards at parking lots and garages. How much
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  Speaker 3: do you have to pay a security guard? What's the
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  Speaker 3: average security guard make in the city of Cincinnati? Well,
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  Speaker 3: I know, and how much is parking going to go up?
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  Speaker 3: Of course, that's the next logical question because if you've
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  Speaker 3: got to pay for a full-time employee 24-7, which is
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  Speaker 3: one option, you're going to have to pass that cost
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  Speaker 3: along to the people who are parking there or the cameras,
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  Speaker 3: which would be a cheaper alternative. What are they going
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  Speaker 3: to do with the data? Do the new rules advanced
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  Speaker 3: by city council include obligations with regard to data storage
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  Speaker 3: and use of data? Yeah, I know. No, I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: they don't. I'm sure they don't care. They say this
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  Speaker 3: is to address public safety. Alexis Martin at Fox 19 reporting,
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  Speaker 3: some parking lot owners say it's a burden they cannot afford. Really? Oh, God,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't realize that. And let me ask this sort
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  Speaker 3: of rhetorical question. Are parking lots the only place that
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  Speaker 3: crime happens?
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  Speaker 4: Huh.
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  Speaker 3: Are all other city businesses going to be required to have, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe cameras installed or hire security agents 24-7?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, Dad. From beyond. Miss you, Dad. One property owner,
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  Speaker 3: you're taking our property rights away. from any of these ordinances.
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  Speaker 3: The practical impact of this ordinance is going to physically
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  Speaker 3: remove a significant number of parking spaces that has been
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  Speaker 3: existing in the urban core for years. Maybe that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe this is less about the guns being stolen from
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  Speaker 3: random parked cars that just happen to have a gun
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  Speaker 3: in them, and maybe it's more about getting rid of
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  Speaker 3: parking spaces so they can have their old, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: walkable city nirvana. Yeah, I know, maybe a stretch. But hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not the one advocating to get rid of cars.
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  Speaker 3: And can I ask an outlaw question, too? Are parking
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  Speaker 3: lots and parking garages the only place cars get parked?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Dad. Again, from beyond. I suppose every city
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  Speaker 3: neighborhood has on-street parking. Much in the way residents found
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  Speaker 3: out that they are personally responsible for the maintenance and
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  Speaker 3: upkeeps of the sidewalk in their front yard. Yeah. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: they're now responsible for installing a ring doorbell camera on
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  Speaker 3: their house so that it can monitor the cars parked
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  Speaker 3: in their driveway or on the street, which may also
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  Speaker 3: have a firearm in them. Huh? Are all stolen firearms
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  Speaker 3: from cars in the city of Cincinnati stolen from parking lots?
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  Speaker 3: I imagine. Wait a minute. Charmaine McGuffey, Joe, didn't she
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  Speaker 3: have her gun stolen from her police car in her
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  Speaker 3: own driveway? Three times. Seriously, was it three? I thought
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  Speaker 3: maybe I missed the memo on the third time that happened.
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  Speaker 3: You'd think someone would learn from the first, damn it,
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  Speaker 3: my gun got stolen. That's a serious risk to public safety.
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  Speaker 3: And in fact, according to the reporting here, of the
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  Speaker 3: 300 or so guns that were stolen from various automobiles,
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  Speaker 3: I guess, in just parking garages and parking lots, 100
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  Speaker 3: of them, according to the Cincinnati police, were used in crimes.
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  Speaker 2: Question.
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  Speaker 3: Question. Was the gun, or now guns, as I learned,
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  Speaker 3: stolen from Charming McGuffey, Sheriff McGuffey's cars, were they used
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  Speaker 3: in commission of crime?
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  Speaker 5: Huh.
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  Speaker 3: I just can't believe this. This is the answer? Councilmember
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  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Krameting says he hears the concerns from parking lot owners,
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  Speaker 3: but said safety has to come first. We're having a
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  Speaker 3: high number of crimes in surface parking lots. The number
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  Speaker 3: of guns stolen from surface parking lots is staggering. Are they, again,
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  Speaker 3: the only location for where guns have been stolen? Oh,
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  Speaker 3: Joe did make an excellent observation in my headset. Weren't
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  Speaker 3: we told the city of Cincinnati is safe? Crime's down.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing to worry about. Nothing to see here. Come
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  Speaker 3: on down. The water's fine. We've got a camera in
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  Speaker 3: the parking lot now. Everything's going to be great.
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  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Just kidding. Oh, and here, let me have a go
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  Speaker 3: at the reporting from Fox 19's Alexa Martin. Here's a
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  Speaker 3: quote from the article. A council member said there are
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  Speaker 3: few things the city can do to combat gun violence,
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  Speaker 3: such as background checks or red flag laws, but reducing
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  Speaker 3: the number of stolen guns used in crime would make
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  Speaker 3: the ordinance worthwhile. A council member. Quote, there are very
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  Speaker 3: few things we can do as a city around gun
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  Speaker 3: violence to combat it in terms of background checks, red
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  Speaker 3: flag laws, but if we can reduce the hundred used
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  Speaker 3: in crime, then it's a worthwhile ordinance. Close quote, the
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  Speaker 3: council member said. Does anybody know who this council member is?
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  Speaker 3: Does this person not have a reportable name since there
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  Speaker 3: is a quote directly attributed to the council member? Can
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  Speaker 3: we find out from whom the bat crap insanity was uttered?
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  Speaker 3: So at least keep tabs if it's down the road
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  Speaker 3: for when we have an opportunity to vote again.
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  Speaker 4: Huh?
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  Speaker 3: Just please. Little information. Chime in on this. I'd love
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  Speaker 3: to hear what you have to say.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, look.
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  Speaker 3: North College Hill's public school superintendent, Eugene Blaylock. Thank you,
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  Speaker 3: Signal 99, for bringing it to our attention that he, well,
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  Speaker 3: used the public school resources to advocate for voting across
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  Speaker 3: the entire blue ticket. Whoops. He didn't realize that that
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  Speaker 3: would be viewed.
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  Speaker 6: As an endorsement.
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  Speaker 3: My bad. 517-55-KRC-TALK-STATION. Feel free to give me a call.
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  Speaker 3: Be back after these brief words. This is 55-KRC. It's
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  Speaker 3: 520 on a Tuesday and a happy one to you. 513-749-5500-800-823-TALK.
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  Speaker 3: 550 on AT & T phones. Well, that ordinance is
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  Speaker 3: going to be discussed today. I guess they're looking to
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  Speaker 3: either pass it or not today. It's probably one of
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  Speaker 3: the dumbest things I've ever heard. baby i well no
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  Speaker 3: i can't say that with a straight face pretty darn
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  Speaker 3: dumb though what joe no okay streetcar that's why i
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  Speaker 3: just withdrew my bold statement it isn't the dumbest thing
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  Speaker 3: but it's up there let's see what jeff's got this
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  Speaker 3: morning jeff welcome to the morning show and a very
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  Speaker 3: happy tuesday to you thanks for calling.
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  Speaker 1: Hey good morning brian Hey, what's the over and under
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  Speaker 1: on how many times Jack Smith will claim the fifth today?
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  Speaker 3: Wait a minute. We've got a pretty high bar on that.
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  Speaker 3: What was it?
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  Speaker 7: Just like Dr.
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  Speaker 5: Fauci.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just going to say, Fauci came in at, what,
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  Speaker 3: like 120 or something like that? Well, keep asking questions.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to get the same answer over and over again.
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  Speaker 3: It does tend to work out that way. Anything else
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  Speaker 3: on your mind, Jeff? That was it. Want to comment
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  Speaker 3: on the cameras or security guards in parking lots? Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: pivoting over, I mentioned in closing the last segment, because
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  Speaker 3: it's worth observing since I did really comment on this
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  Speaker 3: the other day, thanks to Signal 99 again for letting
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  Speaker 3: everyone know that Eugene Blaylock Jr., the superintendent of North
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  Speaker 3: College Hills, North College Hills Schools, tried to get their
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  Speaker 3: school levy passed, which of course, I guess is endorsed
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  Speaker 3: by the Democrats. So you got a blue ticket, right?
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  Speaker 3: You got the blue, you got the pink, and you
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  Speaker 3: get to choose. And I suppose for uninformed voters, you
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  Speaker 3: need that because we don't want you to go the
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  Speaker 3: wrong way. So if you are inclined to vote for,
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  Speaker 3: I suppose, good judges that understand the need for being
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  Speaker 3: tough on crime across the board.
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  Speaker 7: Don't vote Democrat.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. Grab that pink slip. But if you
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  Speaker 3: like soft-on-crime judges and woke politicians who come up with
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  Speaker 3: theories of law enforcement that involve requiring private property owners
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  Speaker 3: to install cameras or hire security guards to deal with
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  Speaker 3: stolen guns in the city of Cincinnati, then you vote blue.
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  Speaker 3: But North College Hill Schools and the superintendent there shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be using your taxpayer dollar-funded website to promote political campaigns,
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  Speaker 3: which is exactly what he did. And the Republicans called
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  Speaker 3: him out on that. He got a statement from Josh Gerth,
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  Speaker 3: the head of the Hamilton County Republican Party, to address that,
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  Speaker 3: but apparently he's been called out, raising questions about whether
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  Speaker 3: he violated Ohio law. Now that post has since been
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  Speaker 3: deleted since it was brought to everybody's attention again by
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  Speaker 3: Signal 99 and then advanced here again on the morning
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  Speaker 3: show and I'm sure elsewhere. Whoever wanted to talk about
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  Speaker 3: it was right there to talk about it because it was, well,
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  Speaker 3: rather untoward. He said he didn't realize it will be
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  Speaker 3: viewed as an endorsement. That's unequivocally stated. Ohio law prohibits
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  Speaker 3: schools from using public resources to support political campaigns. Question.
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  Speaker 3: If you're aware of the law and you are charged
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  Speaker 3: with knowing the law, ignorance of the law is no excuse, Mr. Blalock.
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  Speaker 3: You have the Democrat Party ticket and you put it
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  Speaker 3: up on your website. What is anyone to perceive that
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  Speaker 3: to be other than an endorsement? Why in God's name
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  Speaker 3: would you put it up there if it isn't to
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  Speaker 3: endorse the candidates and push people in the direction of
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  Speaker 3: voting for the blue ticket?
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  Speaker 4: Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.
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  Speaker 3: WCPO reporting, apparently Blalock reiterated to WCPO 9 education reporter
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  Speaker 3: Jacques Gross that he did not realize it will be
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  Speaker 3: viewed as an endorsement. Oh, okay, that's fine. Whatever. Thank you, Liam.
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  Speaker 3: Josh Gertz had a different way of a different response,
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  Speaker 3: calling for Blalock to resign. The superintendent of the North
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  Speaker 3: College Hill School District brazenly violated Ohio law by using
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  Speaker 3: school resources to push his partisan agenda. This is yet
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  Speaker 3: another blatant example of the disregard for law, order, and
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  Speaker 3: ethical behavior from local Democrats. It's no secret that progressives
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  Speaker 3: deliberately infiltrate institutions in order to use the general goodwill
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  Speaker 3: of those institutions to advance their broader political priorities. That
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  Speaker 3: would be the public education system I might interject. Thank you, Josh.
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  Speaker 3: This is insidious everywhere, but it's particularly gross when they
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  Speaker 3: do so to schools where people entrust their children to
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  Speaker 3: be educated. At the minimum, Superintendent Blalock should resign immediately
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  Speaker 3: from his position. But more importantly, voters in Hamilton County
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  Speaker 3: need to start voting for common sense candidates who can
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  Speaker 3: keep these bad actors accountable and save our communities from
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  Speaker 3: the corrupt and failed leadership being given to us by
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  Speaker 3: Democrats in Hamilton County. Well, thank you, Josh. Appreciate your
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  Speaker 3: thoughts and comments on that.
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  Speaker 6: Now, who can argue with that?
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  Speaker 3: Amen, brother.
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  Speaker 6: 525.
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  Speaker 3: Feel free to give me a call. I've got local
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  Speaker 3: stories coming up. Beyond those, actually. Or phone calls. Either way,
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  Speaker 3: we'll be right back. 55.
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  Speaker 6: K-R-C.
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  Speaker 3: The Talk Station.
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  Speaker 7: In a trailer, who have never stepped foot on a
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  Speaker 7: construction site, never installed drywall or whatever, they're making decisions about. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: they're running the whole show. That's a lot of money
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  Speaker 7: being spent. The other thing is safety. Now, I absolutely believe...
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  Speaker 7: that we should make rules and have safe things, you know,
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  Speaker 7: a safe job site. So I don't want this to
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  Speaker 7: be misunderstood, but it has gone way too far off
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  Speaker 7: the deep end. I mean, safety basically runs the job.
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  Speaker 7: Any trivial little thing these people can come up with
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  Speaker 7: controls everything. All the amount of paperwork we've got to do,
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  Speaker 7: the amount of people they've got, you know, safety and
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  Speaker 7: all that. And it all boils down to the same thing.
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  Speaker 7: If you don't, if you're not willing to hold people
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  Speaker 7: accountable for being stupid, then you can write up any
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  Speaker 7: rules you want. You can put as many cameras in
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  Speaker 7: as you want. But when it comes down to it,
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  Speaker 7: if you catch somebody doing or not doing something they're
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  Speaker 7: supposed to do and you don't do anything about it,
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  Speaker 7: your rules are useless. So that's the biggest problem. And Democrats,
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  Speaker 7: of course, they just can't They can't bring themselves to
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  Speaker 7: hold people accountable. Unless, of course, you have orange hair,
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  Speaker 7: then they're all over you. Or if you're someone who
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  Speaker 7: is in favor of anything that Donald Trump says, then
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  Speaker 7: they're going to hold you accountable. But all these people
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  Speaker 7: out there breaking into cars and stealing things and committing crimes, no,
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  Speaker 7: we're going to cut them some slack and we're going
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  Speaker 7: to go easy on them. It's not their fault. And
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  Speaker 7: give them all kinds of excuses. That's the problem. The
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  Speaker 7: problem isn't that there's not enough cameras. The problem is
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  Speaker 7: there's not enough people in positions of power with the
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  Speaker 7: stones that do something with the positions of power that
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  Speaker 7: they have. You've been elected to serve the people by
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  Speaker 7: doing something, by making decisions, by holding other people accountable,
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  Speaker 7: and you've got to do your job. And voters, you're
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  Speaker 7: in your position so that you can make sure those
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  Speaker 7: people that are in that position are the right ones.
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  Speaker 7: So don't vote Democrat. Have a great day.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Tom. I always appreciate your passion. I'm just
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  Speaker 3: struggling with the reality of this proposal from counsel on
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  Speaker 3: the requirement that parking garages and parking lots need to
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  Speaker 3: install cameras or hire security guards. You've got to have
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  Speaker 3: a societal problem in crime. Yes, crime does happen in
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  Speaker 3: parking lots and parking garages, but it's not the only
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  Speaker 3: place that crime happens. Going back to Charmaine McGuffey's driveway
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: and someone breaking in the car and stealing guns from
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: her three times. I mean, this.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: You elected him, folks. Here I am staring at the
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: higher neighborhood voter for mayor and council and the blue
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: map and the insanity with 85 to 100% of the
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: vast majority of downtown Cincinnati residents who bothered showing up
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: for the election. Voter for the current administration. Coming up
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: with brilliant proposals like this one. Well, you know, if
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: you're on radio and you need topics to talk about,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: it is the gift that keeps on giving, isn't it? Anyway,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: pivoting over to other local news. Woman accused of driving
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: the wrong way and causing multiple crashes on I-75 over
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: the weekend is a sergeant at the Kenton County Detention Center.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Mia Slaughter, she's 36, suspended yesterday. Kent County Jailer Mark
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Fields confirmed, speaking with Fox 19, he said she's going
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: to remain suspended until the charges have been adjudicated. Job
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: status depends on the outcome of the case. Cues to
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: driving the wrong way on I-75 South near Cutting Hill,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: 2 a.m. Saturday. That according to the release from coming
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: to police chief Captain Justin Bradbury. The police report says
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: slaughter caused in the words of the police. report, numerous
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: accidents and endangered multiple people. I guess including three officers.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Police wrote in the report she almost went head on
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: with two police cruisers and she needed to be pinned
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: against the wall to be stopped. Officers at the scene
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: noted that Slaughter had bloodshot eyes, a bit unsteady on
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: her feet, and, oh, look, smelled like alcohol. She told
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: them she'd been drinking earlier in the night. She then
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: took a field sobriety test, which she failed. Appeared in
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Kenton County Court via Zoom yesterday for her arraignment. Prosecutors
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: revealed she had a blood alcohol content of 2.09. You
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: were just off on your polymarket bet, Joe, just slightly off.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: You had 2.05, didn't you? Pleaded not guilty to eight
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: counts of wanton endangerment, one count of criminal mischief, and
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: one count of operating a motor vehicle under the influence.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Court-appointed public defender asked Kenton County judge for a lower bond.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: It was denied. Slaughter bond set at $ 10, 000, and if
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: she makes bail, she will not be allowed to drive.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Preliminary hearing scheduled for Wednesday, October 7th at 1.30 if
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: you have nothing to do. Although I hope you're at
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: listener lunch next Wednesday because that's the last one before
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: the election. We're going to be at Jim and Jack's
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: on the River, providing me a convenient opportunity to remind
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: you about that. 535 right now, 55KRCD Talk Station, Stack
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: is Stupid coming up. Although I feel we've been in
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: it since the program started. Be right back. This is 55KR... 539,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: 55KRCD Talk Station. Happy Tuesday. Stack is Stupid. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: pound 550 on AT & T phones. Do a caller, Paul.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Joe said, go to the stack of stupid. And it's
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: interesting because Joe printed out a story for the stack
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: of stupid. I printed out the same story from a
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: different source for completely unrelated reasons. I chose it the
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: gateway pundit version of the story because it is an
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: illustration of overt, I would say racism, as contrasted by
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: the Fox 19 re-reported Associated Press story on the exact
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: same story. So the Associated Press reports as follows. Couple
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: in their late 70s gunned down their son-in-law in a
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: California city park. Court documents show the victim had been
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: in a bitter custody dispute with their daughter. So the
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: couple shot son-in-law. Bitter custody dispute with their daughter. Jonathan McKenzie,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: the late 40-year-old gaming engineer for the New York Times,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: shot to death. Happened Saturday afternoon in a parking lot.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Maybe they should have had a camera security guard there, Joe.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: This was east of San Francisco, so they apparently were
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: not subject to this ridiculous new Cincinnati City Council ordinance. Sorry,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I had to go there. Anyway, police sergeant driving nearby,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: and that's when some witness flagged him down and said
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: this person had been shot. Authorities arrested Xiong Yong Zhang
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: and Shili Chen. Both of them are 76 years old,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: although the Gateway Punter reported them as 77. Doesn't matter,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: they're in their mid-70s. Booked him on a charge of
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: suspicion of murder and other charges. Killing occurred a week
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: before a hearing was scheduled in McKenzie and Jang's divorce case.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: They've been married since 2012, had three young children. Court
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: records show that Jang reported McKenzie to the police back
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: in 2023, accusing him of shoving one of their kids
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: and using rough physical discipline, namely a slap in the face,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: which he admitted that he did slap one of the children,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: and he was also charged with endangering another. At the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: time he was murdered, he was out on bail. McKenzie
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: responded to his wife's court filing, requesting a domestic violence
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: protection order against her and filing for divorce. So we
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: obviously have a contested divorce proceeding. In his petition for
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: a protection order, McKenzie, the late, who is described as transgender,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: alleged Chen had directed anti-LGBTQ plus slurs at him and
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: one of the children. Also accused Chang of being abusive
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: during medical procedures related to his transitions. Now, McKenzie's been
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: with the New York Times since 2023, formerly director of engineering.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: And he's not with us anymore. OK, what's the story
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: about racism, Thomas? What are you talking about? So pivot
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: over that story. You obviously have the mother and father
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: in law who killed their son in law. This is
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: clearly and there's a motive here. Obviously, they love their daughter.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe they shot him because he was abusive toward him.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: Who knows?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: But clearly you can draw a straight line between the
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: shooting and a presumption that the motive had to do
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: with racism. their daughter. Notice there's no reference to the
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Chinese Communist Party or conspiracy theories. They happen to be Chinese.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: You notice the Associated Press didn't even bother pointing out,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: in spite of the fact that they have Shouyong Zhang
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: and Shili Chen identified in the article, they didn't point
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: out their ethnicity.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Because it's not relevant. Pivot over to the Gateway reporting. Headline, horror,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: New York Times employee allegedly brutally murdered by his Chinese in-laws.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: at California Bay Area parking lot. Really? New York Post
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: reported Monday that the 40-year-old Jonathan McKenzie was allegedly killed
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: by his Chinese in-laws in the parking lot of Dublin
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Sports Grounds in Dublin. Then the report goes on to
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: basically pretty much identify the same things as the Associated
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Press is. Let me ask the question. What in the
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: hell does them being Chinese have anything to do with this? Right.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: It doesn't. Red flag. Let me see what Hank's got
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: this morning. Hank, thank you for calling the morning show,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: and happy Tuesday to you.
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: Same to you, Brian. So I've been listening to all
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: this talk about the Democrats and the Republicans lately, and
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: it kind of reminded me back in the 90s. I
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: got fed up with how things were running. I decided
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: to participate a little more, so I signed up to
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: help Steve Shabbat's campaign. And we went around, threw a
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: bunch of his signs in my truck and put them
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: up for people. I mean, like the big signs that
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: you had on fence posts.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: So anyway, here we are today. We got Vivek Ramaswamy running.
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: And I thought about going down to get a sign.
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: They're only open 7 to 3.30 on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday,
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: and 2 o'clock on Wednesday and Friday.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: So as I'm working, it's kind of hard to get
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: down there. Hank, you said they are only open. What
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: are we talking about? What location is this? Is this
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: campaign headquarters? I mean, I don't know anything about where
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: the signs are stored.
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: It says Hamilton County Republicans, where they're advertising for the signs.
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: It's the one down on Redding Road, 430 Redding Road.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: Okay. Okay.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know that that's the only place to get
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: a sign, although I will say, you know, if you
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: want to hand out signs, you should probably have them
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: available more often than that, than those limited hours. But,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: you know, I can't speak to the logistics of that, sir.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I really can't.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: Well, I went online and I was looking at the
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: Hamilton County Republican Party website, and that's where they had
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: it advertised.
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: So it is the Hamilton County Republicans website. And if
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: they had more sites available, they probably should have mentioned
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: it as far as times for people that you could
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: contact to have one delivered if you'd live far enough away.
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: It doesn't sound like they're real serious about getting Republicans elected.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't draw that conclusion. I honestly would not,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: because everybody and his brother is doing everything they can
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: to remind everyone to get the hell out and vote
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: in November. Otherwise, we're going to become the Chinese Communist
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Party of America here, or something along those lines. So, yeah, well,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: and the reason I ask these questions out loud is
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: because someone out there in the Hamilton County Republican Party
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: or the Vivek Ramaswamy campaign might be hearing your current
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: concerns about the limited number of hours and the availability
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: of signs, and then step up to do something about it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: So we can sort of alleviate those concerns that you
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: think that the Republican Party isn't interested in advancing Vivek
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Ramaswamy's campaign. Appreciate the call, Hank. 546 right now, 55
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: KRC Talk Station. Stency Detox Station. 551-55KRC Detox Station. Let's
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: crack the record before I dive back into the stack
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: of stupid. Good morning, Chip. I was reading that local
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: story about the corrections officer that got busted for, uh, uh,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: while drunk driving on, uh, was it I-75 or 71? Anyway,
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: I said 2.09. Blood alcohol content was actually. 209. He
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: heard that. He goes, geez,. 5 is dead. You're right, Chip.. 209,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: which is still in excess of the legal limit to
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: drive by. And good morning to Mary, who said, hey,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: I got all kinds of V-Vague signs. Tell Hank I'll
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: drop off a sign to him today. She just needs
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: your address. I'll have to work it out, let you
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: guys work it out. So there are signs out there. Anyway,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: back to the stack of stupid. This bad crap insanity
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: revealing itself again from the woke left-wing nutjobs of the world.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Today we turn to London. where Paloma Budmeier identified as
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: a woke left-wing nut job. She's apparently a nail salon owner,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: and she said that, you know, more customers are asking
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: for no nail polish. They get a manicure, and they
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: just go with the, well, quiet luxury. That's in quote.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: I don't have my nails done, so I guess that's
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: a thing. Anyway, no nail polish. She says that's, I guess, racist.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Nail art. The British Broadcasting Service looked into this, and
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: they claim that nail art is, in their words, linked
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: back to black, Latino, and Asian communities. And the viral
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: bear look could, in their words, stigmatize bold manicures.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Bear nails. according to beauty journalist christina rodolfo random idiot
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: person claimed quote bear nails really promotes blankness and this
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: kind of sameness, and erasure of culture and identity that
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: is so important to black and brown communities. They are
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: often called elegant or tasteful, and these are often usually
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: euphemisms that perpetuate white supremacy and standards of beauty. Described
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: as pointing the finger at white women or celebrities for
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: perpetuating the fad, claiming they often conflate class and taste
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: with that bareness. Wow. The absence of nail polish. That's
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: seriously true, Joe. I think you have to be completely
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: whacked out of your gourd on drugs to come up
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: with a conclusion like that. Well, if there ain't real
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: racism in the world, you got to go looking for it,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: don't you? Anywhere you think you can make it up. Oh,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: we're in North College Hill for the stack of stupid.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: One man dead, another person injured after a shooting outside
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: the North College Hill bar. Happened on Sunday. Frickers Barn Grill,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Goodman Avenue, 5 p.m. Two people shot. Officers got there,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: found one man with multiple gunshot wounds and a second
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: person with a gunshot wound to the arm. They were
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: taken to UC Medical Center, but despite life-saving efforts, one victim,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Donald Hales, died from his injuries. Friends called the shooting senseless,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: and the shooting happened after a fight that started because
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: of trash talk during a football game. That's why I
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: made the stack of stupid. No arrest as of reporting,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: but they're continuing to investigate what happened. But they would
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: love to hear from the North College Hill Police Department
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: if you have any information. All right, we can get
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: one more in here. We go to Seattle where two
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: suspects accidentally set themselves on fire while they appeared to
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: be trying to steal fuel from box trucks.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: You moron.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: 911 calls poured in about 1.30 in the morning Friday.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Several trucks were on fire on First Avenue. According to
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: the Seattle Police Department, firefighters and officers responded to the scene.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Officers spoke to a witness who told him he saw
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: a man near where the fire was lit shortly before
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: it happened. Officers found a 37-year-old man close to a
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: rental truck lot fence and detained him. According to the
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: police department, they noticed that he had a strong smell
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: of smoke on him and was in possession of a lighter.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Witnesses positively identified the man as the same person they
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: saw leaving the lot before the fire. Under arrest for
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: felony property damage, the total damage to the three rental trucks, $ 150, 000.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Arson and bomb squad detectives reviewed the security footage, which
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: showed a vehicle arriving with two suspects inside. It appeared
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: to be trying to steal the fuel from the box
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: trucks when the fire ignited. It engulfed the suspects and
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: their vehicle. He got in the vehicle and drove out
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: of the flames onto First Avenue.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Idiots doing idiot things.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know. It would have been a better
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: stack of stupid story if the guy was trying to
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: siphon gas using a garden hose while smoking a cigarette. 556-55KRC,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: the talk station. Don't go away. Corey Bowman's going to
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: join the program. We'll talk to Corey for an hour,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: former mayoral candidate Corey Bowman. We'll get his information and
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: understanding about the state of the city, the violence that
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: is surrounding his community, as well as his church and business.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Maybe a comment or two on his reaction to the
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: city council requiring parking garages and surface lot owners to
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: either hire a 24-7 security guard or to install cameras
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: because guns get stolen out of cars. Man, I'm still
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: struggling with that one. Don't go away. Corey Bowman coming up.
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: Did you hear about it?
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Did you hear that story?
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Talk to 05. Coming up at 6 to 655 KRC,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: the talk station. Brian Thomas here. And glad to be
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: glad to see Joe Strzok, where he belongs, executive producer.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm glad to see Corey Bowman's on the phone
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: this morning. Former mayoral candidate Corey Bowman, business owner in
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: the city of Cincinnati and pastor of a church in
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: the city of Cincinnati. Corey, great to have you back
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: on the show. How have you been, man?
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: Been great. How are you doing, sir?
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: I am fine.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: I can report.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: And so, state of the city, what's your impression on
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: how things are going in downtown Cincinnati? I'm going to
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: have to address or get your reaction on this proposal
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: from city council because apparently people are stealing guns from cars.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: And so the city wants to impose an obligation on property,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: on parking lots and garage owners to hire a 24-7
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: security guard or install cameras. I'm just laughing out loud
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: over this, but generally speaking, before we get into that
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: specific issue, how are things going in your particular neighborhood?
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: I know you've had a lot of problems with crime.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Flock cameras have become an issue, so we're moving toward
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: requiring cameras from private businesses and eliminating the public-owned or
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: controlled flock cameras. So A lot to unpackage here, Corey,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: but you're living in the middle of it all. How
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: are things in your neighborhood?
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, we're as a pastor of the River Church
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Cincinnati and as co-owner of King's Arms Coffee Shop, we're
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: in the West End. For anybody that doesn't know, we're
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: right by the soccer stadium in And, you know, we're
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: kind of in between where the Cincinnati Children's Museum is
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: and Central Parkway. So in our area, we've got about
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: 67,000 residents. A lot of the issues that you see
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: in the city, a lot of them are highlighted in
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: the area that we're in. We experienced the crime. We
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: experienced a lot of failed policies of the city. That's
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: actually what led us to run for mayor of Cincinnati
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: to begin with. I would say that. In some aspects,
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: you kind of feel like it's Groundhog Day. We kind
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: of experience the same stuff over and over every year
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: about the same time when it comes to the shootings.
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: And then at the same time, you still feel like
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: it's Groundhog Day when it comes to the solutions. You
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: just mentioned it right there when it came to the
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: parking garage. One of my good friends actually is the
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: owner of a parking garage, and we found out about
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: this actually at the beginning of summer. he saw the
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: gentleman that was maybe the proposed 24 hour surveillance guy
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: that was walking around. And the guy just knew right
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: off the bat that they were going to try to
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: demonize the parking lot owners. One thing I will say
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: is that in the city of Cincinnati, a lot of
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: times they put the blame on the people that are the,
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: least likely to be able to defend themselves. And a
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: lot of times that has to do with the business owners.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: So we're seeing that with local business owners when it
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: comes to the shootings or violence that's happening. Instead of
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: putting the blame or putting the solution on the city,
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: they put on the business owners and say, hey, we're
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: going to find you, we're going to dock you if
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: anything happens around your area. Well, that's happening in the
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: parking garages as well. They're trying to blame these guns
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: for growing feet and then just walking out of the
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: car as and causing violence in our city, but we
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: all know that's the individual. It's the criminals on the
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: streets that are causing the crimes, and that's what we
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: need to focus on when it comes to law enforcement
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: and the public safety budget.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Perhaps, I don't know, treating crime as it should be
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: treated and dealing with it harshly in the court system.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: If people are advised in advance by way of prior prosecutions,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: and strict law enforcement, then they might be less inclined
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: to rip people off and break into cars and steal guns.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: But sadly, we don't have a justice system that cares
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: a whit about prosecuting criminals. We let them out. The
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: revolving door of the justice system. So I would argue
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: that advocating for harsher criminal penalties would do a whole
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: lot more to stop this crime on the streets of
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Cincinnati than while requiring private garage owners to install cameras
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: or hire personnel.
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, this is what we saw last year. And
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: these are issues that we tried to bring out during
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: the mayoral election. And it's the same thing. When the
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: election that we're about to see in November, I keep
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: telling people because obviously there's the state and the federal elections.
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: But in Cincinnati, the most important elections that we have
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: are the judicial candidates that are on the ballot. We've
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: got great judges like Chris McDowell. Betsy Sunderman, Leah Dinkellocher.
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: But then also you have one of the biggest issues
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: in our city is youth violence. Yes. And we have
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: a juvenile court judge that's on the ballot, and it's
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: Susan Lukin. And I would encourage everybody that's listening, you've
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: got to go out and vote this November or even
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: in the early voting to see a change in the
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: juvenile system. Because I've talked to the judges from behind
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: the scenes, and Chris McDowell was one of them. He
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: said that Whenever the people go through the actual judicial
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: system for the first time as an 18-year-old, and let's
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: say they've gone through the system when they were in
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: their teens, they are shocked whenever they get any type
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: of conviction when they're 18 because that's not what they
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: experienced when they were in the youth. What we're seeing
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: is that there's a difference between restorative justice and preventative justice.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: And that's the two sides of the coin when it
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: comes to conservative judges that are going to hold criminals
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: accountable versus ones that are going to just try to
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: be a babysitter to the city, try to be the
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: mom and dad to the city, and take the place
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: of what really the family should be doing in the
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: court system.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of an odd way of looking at it.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: If they're going to be the family for the young
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: people committing acts of violence, they should be harsh on
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: them because you know, that's what moms and dads typically do.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: You know, if you do anything wrong in my household
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: growing up, you're likely going to be punished in some way.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Maybe you're spanking, but discipline was definitely the order of
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: the day. And that was to prevent you from doing
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: something stupid again. So treating them soft on crime is
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: the exact opposite of what these young people need. They
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: apparently are lacking discipline at home. They don't have any
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: ethics or morals. They're willing to steal from people or
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: commit acts of violence. Somebody's got to be a strong
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: parent in the room. And if it's the justice system,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: they haven't gotten the memo.
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I'll say this too. I'm not talking from
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: the outside in the suburbs. We are actively involved in
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: the city. And one thing, if you talk to anybody
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: in the community, if you talk to the single moms
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: or the families that live in these downtown areas... They
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: want justice the same. They want the criminals on the street.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: You know, there's this mentality, especially on the outskirts of
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: the city or between a lot of other people, that
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: the entire community is at fault or the entire community
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: is that way. But let's be real. The crime that's
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: happening is being done by a very small percentage of people.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: And in a city the size of Cincinnati, you're talking
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: about 300 to 500 people. The majority of crime that's
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: being done is being done by repeat offenders that have
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: gone through the system, some of them 18, 19 times
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: when it comes to arrests and convictions and warrants or
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: whatever that might be. Some of them are there's active
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: warrants on them that they aren't being pursued. Some of
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: them are breaking parole. But these are done by a
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: very small percentage of people. And it's wreaking havoc on
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: the entire city. And the people in the community, those
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: single moms I talk to on a daily basis, the
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: people that are living in the inner city, they want justice.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: They want crime taken care of. They're the ones that say, no,
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: bring the cops. We want a relationship with the cops.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: We want them to protect and serve our city. But
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: we want these criminals off the street because we're tired
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: of our children not feeling safe on the street just
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: the same.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Well, I guess my question is, do you sense that
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: that perception. We need more police. It makes perfect sense
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: to me. If you're in a crime-ridden neighborhood, you would
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: want more police officers. That's your place. That's where you live.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Do you get a sense that it's a majority of
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: people that feel that way, and somehow this weird, woke,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: corrupt minority has taken over the law enforcement attitudes and
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: believes this soft-on-crime approach is what's good for everybody in downtown?
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: Well, I think that mentality definitely has been more prevalent
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: in But when we ask for more police, one thing
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: I'm seeing on social media is that people, whenever you
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: talk about law enforcement and more police, a lot of
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: people will claim that, oh, you're just wanting a military state.
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: You're just wanting the police to run the street. Let's
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: look at the current state of the police department. Right now,
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: what we have is complement levels, which is the debt.
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: So every police force, you have a suggested number. of
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: police officers that is needed bare minimum to take care
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: of the city's crime. Right now, we're 20% below that
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: line right now. And the way that I've been talking
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: with some police officers, when they see all the drama
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: that's happening behind the scenes, a lot of them are
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: entering into retirement over the next few years. And there's
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: no guarantee that they're going to stay on the force
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: like many police officers have done in the past. So
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: you're talking about potentially 20 to 30 percent understaffed police
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: force in a major city in America. So we're not
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: necessarily asking for an overabundance of police force. We're just
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: asking for at least the compliment levels to be up.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: We're just asking for at least the number of employees
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: that's recommended to take care of our city to be
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: up there. And that's not what's happening. There's many reasons
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: why those compliment levels aren't up. whether it be because
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: of lack of lateral hiring initiatives, whether it be lack
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: of morale, people just aren't applying like they should, people
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: entering into retirement. But that's what we're asking for is
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: a culture shift to happen in the police department to
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: where people are wanting to work for the Cincinnati Police
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: Department and that we bring those compliment levels up to
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: at least to where we're not 20 to 30 percent understaffed.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll pause on that note. We'll bring Corey Bowman
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: back up more to talk to him about it. I'm
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: thinking maybe perhaps one of the reasons we're having such
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: a difficult time luring police officers into the city of Cincinnati,
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: lateral or new recruits, we may have a leadership problem.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: If you don't have support for the police department coming
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: from leadership, not a good sign to those who might
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: want to protect and serve within the city limits. More
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: with Corey Bowman at City Talk Station. 620 here at
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: 55KRCD Talk Station. Brian Thomas with Corey Bowman, former mayoral candidate,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: business owner, King's Arms Coffee. Get yourself down there and
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: get yourself a real good cup of joe. And visit
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: the east side of Cincinnati, King's Arm Coffee right there
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: at Bay Miller and York Street. So close to TQL Stadium.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: You think that neighborhood would be really solid and a
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: very safe place to live, Corey? I guess maybe it's
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: not the case, but does have massive potential. Is that
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: why you chose to establish your business and church there
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: on that side of town?
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, we love every part of Cincinnati, but
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: there's something extremely special about the West, and I really
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: believe that it has, I mean, if you come to
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: the neighborhood, you see the historic buildings, the character behind it,
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: and even the community. The community is just such an
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: incredible tight-knit community that really wants to see change, that
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: really wants to see improvement. And you mentioned about the
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: safety of the neighborhood. I think it's actually valid to
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: mention that ever since we started our coffee shop, we
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: haven't been broken into one time in almost four years.
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: And you see many businesses downtown that experience issues where
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: windows are broken or broken into at least one time.
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: We haven't experienced that one time. And I tell people,
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: It's not necessarily because we've got some high-tech security system
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: with sharks with lasers on their head outside. It's because
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: the community actually wants us to be there and thrive.
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: And I say that if you start businesses in these areas,
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: if you want to see change, you've got to see development.
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: You've got to see proper things take place. And also,
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: we see the police regularly patrol our area just because
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: they want to keep the area with the coffee shop safe.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Well, and talk about it. I remember back in the
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: 80s when I used to work at the Hamilton County Courthouse,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Dayton Street just fascinated me because those old millionaire row
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: homes are still intact. They are still as gorgeous as hell. And,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: you know, comparatively affordable, obviously, because the neighborhood is a
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: little bit more dicey from a crime perspective. But holy cow.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, the potential still exists for that. The investment
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: opportunity is still there. I mean, are there still a
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: whole lot of those homes available for purchase? Because I
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: don't know why, you know, you get Over the Rhine
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: being developed, and that was all the emphasis there after
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Washington Park got rehabbed. And I get it, potential and
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: opportunity there as well, but sort of a missed opportunity
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: like a few blocks away in your neighborhood.
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's literally Billionaire's Road, Dayton Street is one block away,
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: and we get customers that live on Dayton Street every
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: day that come into our shop for their morning cup
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: of coffee. And there's a lot of development, a lot
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: of rehab that's taking place on a couple of homes
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: on the street. But then there's a lot of just
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: timeless homes there that have had people living there for decades.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: There's actually many movies that have been filmed on Dayton
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: Street and in the area as well. So it is
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: a very amazing community to be a part of. But
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: I will say this, that when I speak to those residents,
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: people on both sides of the aisle politically, they want
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: change because they see the potential. Every new person that
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: we get in the coffee shop, it's so funny, we
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: get visitors every week that come in because they're either
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: visiting the Children's Museum or going to a game. And
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: they Google us and they find us and they say,
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: what's this neighborhood like? Is it up and coming? And
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: I just say, you know, it's a running joke. It's
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: been up and coming for the last 50 years.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: Just because you see development, but it operates a little
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: bit slower than a lot of people would like. But
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: a lot of that has to do with either the
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: policies that we're encountering or just the perception of how
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: people view the neighborhood.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Well, do you feel left out or ignored? Again, I'll
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: contrast your neighborhood and all of the potential it obviously
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: has versus over the Rhine and the Central Business District downtown,
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: which seems to get the lion's share of the allocation
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: of the limited police force we have. Do I have
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: a proper understanding of that?
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, a lot of it has to do with stakeholders.
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: You know, when you hear the mayor get up and
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: speak about, you know, whether it be if there's a
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: shooting that happened in Fountain Square or if there is
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: a shooting that would happen in OTR, the press conference
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: is always that we are there for our stakeholders. We
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: all need to come together and find solutions for that.
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: What he's talking about is that in those areas, you've
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: had a concentrated conversation.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Investment.
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: You've had a lot of people get together and get
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: on board to be able to invest in the community.
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: And also that includes government subsidies, grants, tax abatements, all
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: sorts of stuff. It's like there's this collective effort to
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: be able to revitalize the neighborhood. Now in the West End,
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: the main thing that we get a collective effort on
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: is putting more affordable housing in the West. Even today,
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: you're seeing cranes that are on the West and they're
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: building more government subsidized housing.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Now, here's the thing.
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: When it comes to affordable housing, government subsidized housing, I'm
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: kind of an outlier, I feel like, in my own
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: party because I believe that some of these benefits and
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: these subsidies need to exist because I see people that
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: are hurting, that are in need. But it needs to
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: be a hand up, not a handout. And in our
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: current neighborhood, you're looking at roughly over 60%, at least,
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: if not more, of government subsidized housing. What that is,
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: is that that's concentrated poverty. concentrated poverty will always lead
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: to concentrated crime, no matter how you see it. And
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: who really suffers is the families and communities that are
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: just trying to get a leg up by utilizing this
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: housing for a temporary time, at least you would hope so.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: We'll bring Corey Bowman back, talk a little bit more,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: and again, I'm going to have to... 55KRC, the talk station.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: It is 631, 55KRC, the talk station. Brian Thomas, talking
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: with Corey Bowman, former mayoral candidate, but Established businessman and resident.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: I think I inadvertently said East End a moment ago,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: and it's West End because we talked about his neighborhood,
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: his coffee shop, and King's Arms. If you're over in
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: the neighborhood close to TQL Stadium, swing on in. Say
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: hi to Corey and the crew. Is it National Coffee Day?
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Joe Strecker, it's National Coffee Day. Corey, did you know that?
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: Well, I should know it at least.
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: I'm a coffee shop owner, but for us, every day
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: is National Coffee Day.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: Amen.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: All right, well, since we're talking about law enforcement, you
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: mentioned the, we know, I think all my listening audience
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: knows there's a significant reduction in the contingent of police officers.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: You mentioned we're 20% below what we need statistically, and
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I think that's consistent with the numbers I've heard from
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Ken Kober, FOP president. We need more officers, but more
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: and more are retiring. They're taking early retirement, which is
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: a red flag. They are leaving to go to other
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: jurisdictions and maybe become an officer in Warren County, where
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: I think things are a little bit better from a
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: a police department respect respect standpoint but what do you
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: say and do you believe that the administration burr of
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: all and city manager long and the people they hang
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: out with like iris roley who they pay hundreds of
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: thousands of dollars for who is an absolute anti-police advocate
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: she's one of the queens of the defund police movement
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: downtown um that optics are really bad if you're trying
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: to increase the number of officers now the city is
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: trying to attract officers isn't it cory.
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: To their ability, I believe they are, you know, obviously
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: the police department, they want to fill those compliment levels. But,
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: you know, the perception of the department internally and on
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: the outside, I believe, is hindering a lot of it.
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: You know, when we do lateral hires, I think the
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: last lateral hire class was either non-existent or you had
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: a handful. You're seeing people come through the academy, but
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: it is a struggle to try to recruit and to
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: get people to be as excited as they once were.
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: You know, I keep getting told by officers and people
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: that used to be a part of the department that
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: there was a time where if you had recruitment for
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: the CPD, that they would be filling the convention center
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: with applicants. And nowadays, that's not the case. It's almost
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: like you have to compel people to try to come
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: to the department. And a lot of that boils down
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: to the perception of the leadership, the morale, and how
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: things are going to be perceived once you get there.
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: The majority of the officers that I speak to, I
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: don't speak to them about red or blue issues. What
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: they say is that the politics have taken over. where
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: everything in their job is involving all these politics and
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: kind of walking on eggshells when it comes to certain things,
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: instead of just doing what they were hired to do,
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: which is to protect and serve. They have their training.
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: They have their accountability. They need to be able to
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: go out and do their job, but they're constantly having
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: to worry about what does the leadership look like? What
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: does the directive look like as far as low-level crime prevention?
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: and patrolling. And those are mental gymnastics that these officers
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: should not be having to go through if they're putting
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: their lives on the line every day.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Well, and then pivoting back over again, I have to
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: be critical of the judicial system, meaning the Democrats, the
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: council members, the mayor, all obviously advocating for these woke judges,
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: including the juvenile court judge Bloom, who is very lenient
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: on crime. The officers, I hear time and time again,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: are frustrated about the revolving door. What's the point of
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: picking somebody up if they're just going to be let go?
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: It's a pointless exercise.
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: I hear the same thing from the officers. They'll say
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: that they'll go to book somebody, and then in the
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: middle of doing their paperwork, they'll get the notification that
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: the person's already been released right back on the street.
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: And for a lot of them, they just don't see
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: the point of it. They just know the system. They
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: know what it'll go through. And that's why I keep
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: saying that in November, if you really believe in Cincinnati,
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: if you want to get involved in local politics, you know,
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: support these judges that are on the ballot, like Susan
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: Lukin and Chris McDowell, because this is an important, this
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: not only is an important election, but it's an important
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: time in our city to where I was actually speaking
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: with the Claremont Young Republicans last night at their headquarters
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: in Batavia. And I said that the big thing you've
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: got to do is realize we can't always just be
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: on the defensive and watch people leave cities like Cincinnati.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: We've got to be on the offensive. We've got to
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: be able to take ground and be able to stand
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: in the places where we can stand. And this November,
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: people can stand for the judges because that's a huge
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: part in helping our police officers that just want to
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: protect and serve on our streets.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: Well, given the political makeup of downtown Cincinnati, I think
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: it's safe to assume that the vast majority of residents
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: are Democrats. I mean, look at the election results from
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: the last year. So with that in mind, if what
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: you say, Corey Bowman, is an accurate observation of what
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: people really want, which is more law enforcement officers in
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: their neighborhood because it reduces crime, then you have to
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: understand as a resident of the city, you're going to
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: have to just go ahead and vote Republican because the
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Democrat agenda is against your will. It is a polar
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: opposite of what you in any given neighborhood in the
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: city want. You want to get tough on crime? You
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: cannot vote the blue ticket. So just ignore the judicial
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: component of the blue ticket and grab the pink slip,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: hold your nose, and vote for the Republican judges. And
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: you shouldn't have to hold your nose because they're going
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: to deliver on what you want. We'll bring Corey back. Corey,
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: you're a pastor. You're a minister. Do ministers and the
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: people of faith still have an influence over young people?
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Are young people still going to church? Or head to
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: KRC Detox Station. 641 at 55 KRC Detox Station. Brian
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Thomas Witt. Corey Bowman. He ran for mayor. He's a
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: business owner. We talked about King's Arms Coffee in the
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: West End, which you should stop by and get a
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: cup of Joe. National Coffee Day, anyway. The River Church.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: That's your church right there at Clark and John Street, right, Corey?
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: Yes, sir.
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we've been there. We've been having our church for
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: six years now.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: And it's a really beautiful, it's a big building. I
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: was just checking it out on Google Maps. And here's
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: an interesting comment as I ask about the influence of
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: preachers and ministers on the population. This is an amazing church.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: We're on reviewer with an amazing preacher. I will be
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: attending again. We'll be bringing my seven-year-old daughter with me
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: next time. She, too, and I know will enjoy the
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: feel just the same as us. at home as I did,
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: felt present, heard and felt. Thank you for having us.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: God moves us and does things and crosses paths for
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: a reason. Amen. Just one of the multiple five-star reviews
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: you got there, Corey. People like and enjoy being in
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: your church. Do young people still go to church? Do
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: they still have faith? Do ministers and preachers and people
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: of faith like you have any influence over the young
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: people in the community anymore, Corey?
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: Well, I think it's definitely hitting at the heart of
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: all the issues that we're speaking about. You know, when
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: we talk about the judges, when we talk about the
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: crime in the city, we talk about everything going on.
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: This is all having to do with the home life,
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: all having to do with what does the family look like,
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: and then how can we influence young people? You know,
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you saw, but recently, it was
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: last Tuesday, we just had a youth night at our church,
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: and we called it Activate. And what we've been doing
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: is we partnered with the Ohio State Patrols, and Landon Robinson,
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: who is a Naval Academy graduate who got drafted to
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: the Cincinnati Bengals. He has an amazing foundation. Also, Drake Kirkpatrick,
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: who's actively involved in the downtown area. We partnered with
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: all these guys, and we had a youth night. And
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: that night, we had the entire football team for Taft
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: High School, along with many other youth that came in
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: and heard great testimony, motivational speaking, career paths, And then
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: at the end of it, we prayed with them all
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: and gave them opportunity to dedicate their lives to Jesus
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: and invite them to church. That's one of the many
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: ways that we're trying to make an impact from the
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: ground up. You know, it's not just for us. It
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: was never just about a political race. It was about
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: making the impact. And one way you can do that
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: is starting in these young people's lives. I do see,
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: you asked if we're seeing young people come to church.
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: We are seeing numbers that indicate that. But the biggest
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: thing I see is There's a hunger for it. There's
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: definitely a desire from this next generation for something different.
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: They want something real. And from my perspective, I believe
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: that relationship with Jesus and a proper community church that's
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: going to be able to provide that family atmosphere and
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: discipleship is one of the key answers to that.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Well, and part of the disturbing element that I at
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: least perceive in your living downtown and being a minister
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: in downtown is that quite often ministers will definitely gravitate
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: toward and talk about politics and who people should vote for,
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: as opposed to, again, connecting people with the higher power
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: and connecting people with Jesus Christ in the case of
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Christian churches. I don't know that that's doing Christianity a service.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: I believe that ministers should be focusing on relationships with God.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: Too many of them are politicized. At least that's the
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: perception I get.
• 59:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's definitely a lot on the extreme when it
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: comes to politics and preachers. I believe that You know,
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: we have the right from a constitutional standpoint to have
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: a voice, to be able to have an opinion on
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: certain things if it is clearly affecting what we believe
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: is right in the Christian faith and what we believe
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: in the Bible. But let's not forget that we have
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: to keep the main thing the main thing. We don't
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: worship politics. We don't worship government authority. We worship God
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: and we worship the God that sent his son to
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: die on the cross for us. And the moment that
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: you stray away from that and you make it your
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: mission to be able to, you know, impact politics, you
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: lose sight of the fact that we've got to bring
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: people to a greater reality that there is a life
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: after death. There is hope for after this. But then
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: also we can bring that hope here, not necessarily through
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: just political change, but through a spiritual change. And, you know,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: Vivek Ramaswamy actually said it multiple times. He was in
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: our church at a meeting and he said, we're in
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 6: a spiritual crisis right now. Charlie Kirk, I shook hands
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: with him two weeks before the assassination happened. And he
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: got up on the platform that night and said, we
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: are in a spiritual crisis. We have to see a
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: spiritual awakening to be able to see true change. This
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: isn't just about a political movement. This is a movement
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: of people that are hungry for change from a spiritual level.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: And I believe that obviously the Bible and our relationship
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: with Jesus is the key to that.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: And I understand that. And I The problem that I
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: always gravitate toward, you know, Marxism, socialism, they reject religion outright,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: which gives people, I think, a sense of hopelessness. You know,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: and the only place they can turn because they don't
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: have faith in a higher power and some perhaps future
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: where things are going to be grandiose is they've got
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: to turn to government for their hope. It's like the
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: last bastion of hope is government. That's a scary place
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: to be. But if you have a good relationship with
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: God and a higher power, it transcends your relationship with
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: the state, and that's the fear that communists have of
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: a religion.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: No, you're exactly true. There's a Bible verse that says
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: that we seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: and all these things shall be added unto it. Before
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: that scripture, it talks about don't worry about what you
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: eat or what you wear.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: It does.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: It's not encouraging you to not wear anything or not
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: eat anything. It's just basically saying if you keep the
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: priority toward the eternal things, the things that mean more
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: after this life. Well, then all the other things are
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: going to line up. And I believe that, you know,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: everything that we're talking about politics wise and policy, if
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: we can get people's hearts toward the right thing from
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: an internal standpoint. The conservative values, the policies that we
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: want to see that's going to impact the crime in
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: our city, that's going to impact the community, those things
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: follow suit as long as we keep the driving force
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: as we're here for a higher purpose. We're here for
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: a higher calling. I believe that's why many people gravitated
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: toward our campaign last year. I saw many candidates that
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: you can just tell this is their job application. When
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: they run a race, they're just trying to get into
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: a career choice of politics. But then there's those politicians
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: or those people that are running for office that you
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: can just tell there's a conviction in their heart that
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: they have to run this race because they have to
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: inspire change from a deeper meaning. And I believe that
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: that's what we need to see more often in the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: politics is people that have those convictions that won't compromise
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: on things. And they're doing it for a higher purpose.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: I just chime in and say, amen. Corey Bowman, hang out, brother.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk to you a couple more minutes
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: in the next segment. We'll get his final concluding thoughts.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure having you on so far. Corey,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: we'll wrap things up in a moment. 653, 55KRCD Talk Station.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: Dr.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Jay Rizzo, right from the top of the hour news,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: go through the Empower You seminars coming up. And without
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: further ado, we've got one more segment here with Corey Bowman,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: former mayoral candidate, talking about the issues that he deals
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: with each and every day at West End at downtown Cincinnati,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: real close to TQL Stadium. You know, I keep going
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: back to that neighborhood. I just imagine it would It
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: has so much growth potential, but you go back to
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: the idea that city council apparently is not interested in
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: that neighborhood getting redeveloped since they're concentrating more and more
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: government housing there. So as you pointed out, statistically proven,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: the high concentrations of subsidized housing, those neighborhoods typically have
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of crime. I mean, it's why Cabrini Green
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: in Chicago doesn't exist anymore. It's why they tore down
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: the Robert Taylor homes in Chicago, those neighborhoods were absolutely
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: horrific danger zones in terms of crime. That's where all
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: the concentrated low-income housing was. So you get the impression
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: the city is not interested in converting your neighborhood like
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: they did in Over the Rhine to this wonderful urban
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: hipster paradise, which they ultimately got criticized for, Corey?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: Well, I think the biggest thing is that, you know,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: I think the intentions of people are, I don't think
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: they sit in a room and say, well, we don't
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: want the West End to thrive at all. I think
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: it's more so just their approach to it is just
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: totally off base. When you see the concentrated amount of
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: affordable housing, subsidized housing there, and then also let's not
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: fail to mention that a lot of these subsidized housing
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: is run by, you know, for lack of better words, slumlords.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: You know, a lot of them that a lot of
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: the residents that are currently in my church, their landlords
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: do not take care of them when it comes to
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: the proper maintenance of the buildings, when it comes to,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, I know a single mom that lived in
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 6: one of these housings and her and her kids haven't
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: had heat or AC in their apartment ever since they've
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: been there, but then they live under threat of eviction
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: if they complain from the landlord. Now, these landlords are
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: very well-funded By city funding, a lot of them are
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: getting upwards of even a million dollar grants for some
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: of these organizations. But yet there's constant problems when it
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 6: comes to the tenants and those relationships. But the tenants
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 6: have nowhere else to go because they're on these programs.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: So I think that that's something that we're fighting for
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: right now. because it's not just about the affordable housing
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: and demonizing that process. It's about how it's being funded
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: right now. You can just tell that the money is
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: being funneled through these landlords, and it's not been going
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: to the right things that it needs to, and the
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: residents are suffering because of it.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Well, an apartment with no heat is uninhabitable. So, yeah,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: got problems there. And you hear about council paying lip
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: service to holding landlords accountable, but here you have them
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: subsidizing landlords who aren't held accountable. Seems like an easy solution. Gee,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: if we only had a different mayor. Corey Bowman, that
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: would have been a better option as far as I'm concerned. Corey,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: maybe we'll do it again down the road sometime. We'll
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: see if we can't get you elected. But in the meantime,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: keep having great concern for the city. Keep up the
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: great work at your church. And best of luck with
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: your business, King's Arms Coffee. I recommend my listeners swing
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: on in there from time to time. Buy a cup
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: of Joe. Probably run into a lot of police officers there.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: I know they like you, Corey. Corey Bowman, anything last
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: words before we part company this morning?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: Brian, I would just say thank you so much to
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: you and your listeners for having me. The entirety of
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: last year during the campaign and even beyond, you guys
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: are truly making an impact in the city with bringing
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: these issues to light. And I'm very thankful for you
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: all and including Joe Strecker in the back.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, and we're happy that you're doing what you're doing.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: And I'm happy to bring you on here to highlight
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: the work that you continue to do. You obviously have
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: care and concern for the city. Corey Bowman, we will
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: have you on again real soon. Take care of yourself
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: and best of health and love to you and your family.
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• 1:07:27
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• 1:07:29
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• 1:07:32
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• 1:07:39
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• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: No, not at all. We're going to meet the guys
• 1:07:44
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• 1:07:47
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• 1:08:06
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• 1:08:12
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• 1:08:18
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• 1:08:22
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• 1:08:27
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• 1:08:29
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  Speaker 3: Well, from time to time, and I've witnessed this happen
• 1:08:45
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• 1:08:48
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• 1:08:52
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• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: skeletons are and you know where the problems are and
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: you know what, if you were in charge, you would
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: be in charge. do to change the system for the
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: betterment of humanity, quite often elected officials are like, wait
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: a second, I would love to sit down and talk
• 1:09:07
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• 1:09:09
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• 1:09:13
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• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: in some measure of outreach.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: That is true. In fact, I've met a lot of
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: politicians in my time. My goodness, you've met even more.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: And I've often offered my expertise to them, and every
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: once in a while, they do take it up on me.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: They do take me up on it. So this would
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: be a great class to come to virtually. Register in
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: advance on our website, empoweryouamerica.org, 7 o'clock to 8.15. Please
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: come and enjoy.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: And, of course, Thursday, October 1st, we'll have the Brickham
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: murder case. being revisited at 60 years. We also have,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: guess who is our 20-minute class beforehand? Tom Zawitowski, who
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: I guess is coming on next.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: He always does.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: You'll have to ask him about his class with us
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: this Thursday. He'll be looking at the Ohio races. And
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: I'll let you talk about Tom later. He's a great guy,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm so glad we're going.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: To have him. Yeah, he's got the ear of a
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: lot of politicians, too, which is a nice thing, because
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: if someone is going to be able to reach to
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: a politician and actually convey a message, apparently Tom's the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: guy that can do it.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, and since he's the director and founder of
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: the We the People convention, he has a lot of
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: information to give us, and he's going to give us
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: the scoop on the election as it stands right now.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: But our main speaker is J.T. Townsend. He's an author.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: And he's written books before, like the Queen City Gothic.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: And in 2014, Queen City Notorious. And now he's talking
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: about his book, Summer's Almost Gone, about the 1966 Bricka
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: murders that occurred on the West Side. He's going to
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: take us inside of the house at 3381 Greenway Avenue.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: And three people were brutally murdered. He's working on getting
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: DNA information, and he's going to show us pictures of
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: the house that have never been seen before. And it
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: should be a very interesting lecture on Cincinnati history that
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: is yet to be completely resolved.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, unsolved case, cold case, but I wasn't aware they
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: had new DNA samples to analyze, so perhaps modern technology.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Well, he's working on that.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: I'm taking away some of his thunder, but he is
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: working on that. They don't have it yet, but he's
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: hoping to have it soon, and he'll explain what's going
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: on with that.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: All right, and that one is in person at 300
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: Scarlet Oaks Drive, but you can still log in from
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: home if you choose to log in, correct?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: You can. We'd like you to register early, but you
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: can log in anytime. We're on Rumble, and on our website,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: of course, you can just log in there. Again, in HowAreYouAmerica.org.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: I want to say one thing about last week when
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: we had the history of Cincinnati-style chili on Thursday. A
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: great lecture. Those of you who missed it, you missed
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: a really good thing. Unfortunately, unlike all of our other lectures,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: that one is not available to peruse on our website.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: And it's not a technical problem. Unfortunately, our speaker, Jay Kassman,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: works at the Cincinnati Museum Center. And since he works there,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: he used some material of theirs. We had to sign
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: an agreement that we would not record his talk, and
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: we couldn't show it later.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 7: What?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: It's owned by the Cincinnati Museum Center, not by us.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: So we are not permitted to show it again. I
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: am so sorry. I didn't realize that was going to happen.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: What the hell?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: I would have said it last week if I had known.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: Well, rules can be waived. What is the... Well, we tried.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't listen to us. You know, it's a big organization.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: And we'll just empower you. I guess we weren't big enough.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe I can go after the fact and talk to
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: him because I don't think we recorded it because I
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: think we followed the rules. I don't think we recorded it,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: so it's not. But I'll tell you, it was a
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: great lecture. I'm so sorry. We had ponies, and we
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: heard about the 15 different Cincinnati chili parlors. It was great. So, everybody,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: you've got to come and check out EmpowerU. Look at
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: our schedule today, empoweruamerica.org. Next week, we'll have Jet Noise
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: is the Sound of Freedom, what we learned about the
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: ancient city of Pompeii. Coming, we're going to have a
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Krav Maga presentation. example, demonstration.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, no kidding.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: We have all kinds of things coming up, and we're
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: ending with a bourbon tasting run by our own Mike Wilson.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: That's going to be on June 2nd. All the details
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: are finally published. They're up on our website. We have
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: a lot to go through before then. Everybody come to empoweryouamerica.org.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: We need 300 Scarlet Oaks, 300 Scarlet Oaks Drive at
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Scarlet Oaks. Come by and.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 7: Check us out.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: And, of course, check out the completed classes with the
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: exception of the history of Cincinnati-style chili. I'm calling foul
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: on that use of video there. It's 720 here at
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: 55KRC Detox Station. Happy Tuesday. Tom Zawistowski coming up next.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: Got time if you want to call in, 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK,
• 1:14:09
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• 1:14:11
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• 1:14:15
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• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: happen to be. including Germany, which I thought was really cool.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: We've got one of my listeners chiming in from Germany yesterday.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: So good morning to everybody outside of the greater Cincinnati area.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: I just think it's really neat that people listen to
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: the morning show elsewhere. And you can too, 55KRC. iHeart. com. And
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: you can find the Smith event there from yesterday. Ohioans
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: for Child Protection about changing the statute of limitations for
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: child molester perverts that molest children. Not inclined to turn
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: people in when you're a young person. And of course,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: as you enter into adulthood, not inclined to turn people
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: in either. It's statistically amazing how many people have been
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: molested by perverts when they're children that don't say anything.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: And I certainly understand why that might be the case.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: But should those perverts be protected by the statute of limitations?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: Seems rather arbitrary. Civil cases and criminal cases looked upon differently,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: I believe. you're prohibited from pursuing a civil action after
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: age 30 and 43 for criminal or vice versa. But
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: where do they get those numbers and why do they
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: still exist? Well, that's what Ohioans for Child Protection is
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: all about, changing those laws and, well, holding people accountable,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: like that priest who was known to have raped children
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: and even admitted to it. Anyway, I started the show
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: this morning, and sorry if you were listening in the
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: 5 o'clock hour. I am just, my mind is blown off.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: The Cincinnati City Council is now going to require, if
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: they vote on it today, apparently, or tomorrow, rather, is
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: the vote on this ridiculous proposal, requiring cameras or security
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: guards at parking lots and garages in the city. So
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: if you're a garage owner, you're a parking lot owner,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: they want you to cover the nut on installing cameras
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: there or to hire a security guard 24-7.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: Because people steal guns from cars. enforcing a private property
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: under the shoulder of the burden because people store guns
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: in cars and people know about that and go and
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: break into them and take them. You know, I was
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: reminded of Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey, and I thought it was
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: only twice she had firearms stolen out of her own
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: police cruiser in her driveway. That happened three times, according
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: to Joe Strecker, who remembers things better than I do.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: So are they going to require her to have a
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: flock camera or rather a ring doorbell camera on her property,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: or are they going to require her to have a
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: security guard or maybe just get one of the deputies
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: to sit in her driveway and prevent her from prevent
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: people from stealing guns out of her car. I know
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: an easier solution would be for her to bring her
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: gun back into the house, but whatever.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: 324 guns.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: According to council member Mark Jeffries, 324 guns stolen from
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: cars last year, and the Cincinnati Police Department has independently
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: verified that at least 100 of those stolen guns have
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: been used in other crimes. We've got to do something
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: about this. We've got to protect our phony baloney job. Here, you,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: property owner, pay the freight on security cameras. Now, question.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: If flock cameras are bad, why would they be better
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: in the hands of private owners? I know private people
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: can do whatever they want. You probably have a flock
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: or a ring doorbell camera at your home. You can
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: do whatever you want with the data. You could even
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: share it. But should they be obligated because there's gun
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: thefts in downtown to have to pay this additional expense?
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Should you? be obligated to pay the additional
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: expense because that's who's going to pay for it. You're
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: going to go and you'll find that the parking, the
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: rate of parking, which is already outrageous, right? It's going
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: to go up because they have additional overhead. And will
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: this stop guns from being stolen? I noted if I
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: was a parking lot or garage owner, I would definitely
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: go to the camera option. Of course, after litigation protesting
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: the obligation to do so, but did they not get
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: the memo in downtown Cincinnati council members and the mayor
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: that Like people can wear masks. I can only assume
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: that having a video camera there in the parking lot,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: it can't stop crime. It can only deter it because
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: some young person who is getting ready to break into
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: a car might look up and say, well, I'm not
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: going to do it here because there's a camera. But
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: cannot that young person also say, all I need to
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: do is put a damn mask on and cover my
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: face and no one will know who it is that
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: broke into the car that they now have on video? Yeah,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: that's an option. Unbelievable. 725-55-KRC-D Talk Station. Tom Zalastowski, wethepeopleconvention.org,
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• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: Welcome back. Tom Zalastowski from wethepeopleconvention.org. It's always a pleasure
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: to have you.
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  Speaker 5: You on.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, good to be with you, Brian. What a great
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: show so far this morning. And boy, I just love
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: to empower you people. What a gem that Dan Reginald
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: built over all these years. There's nothing like it that
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: I've seen anywhere in the United States. And all of
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: you guys in Cincinnati and throughout Ohio, You just got
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  Speaker 2: to take advantage because their content is fantastic, and it's free.
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  Speaker 3: It's free.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: What more do you want?
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: Don't limit it to the greater Cincinnati area, Tom. I
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: just mentioned I had a caller from Germany. He lists
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: on his iHeart app. If you're in New Hampshire, Gary
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: calls in all the time. Mississippi, James calls in all
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: the time. I mean, listeners across the country can easily
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: access the empoweryouamerica.org website. These topics really transcend local things
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: for the most part.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And I'm honored to be asked on occasion to
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: talk with them and greatly appreciate it. But most of
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: the speakers are way better than me and way more qualified.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: And I encourage everyone to sign up on Thursday and participate.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: You won't regret it. Believe me, it's better than watching
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: Fox News on Thursday night, let me tell you.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: Well, you have something there as well, Tom Zawistowski.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: What do we got going on here? Of course, the
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: ongoing message, we got to get out and vote. I
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: think I sit on the fence in terms of what
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: polling means. Now, again, we will agree right out of
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: the gate that nobody believes in polling anymore. But the drumbeat,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: the persistent drumbeat, and all of the polling, oh, my God,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: the Republicans are going to take it on the chin
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: in November. Oh, my God, the Republicans are going to
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: lose X number of seats. They're going to be a
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: minority after the election. The Democrats are going to take
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: over the Senate as well. It's all done. It's over.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: But there are glimmers of hope out there. But also,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: we are backed up. disbelief is backed up by a
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: lot of really bad polling we can reflect back on
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: after elections are over. So does it benefit a party
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: to say the other side is completely devastated? In other words,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: if someone says that to me, as they are saying now,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: because I, of course, want conservatives or even libertarians to
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: be elected, I'd be more inclined to vote just in
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: defiance of that conclusion. You know, screw you, man. You
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: can't tell me it's over. I haven't voted yet. Or,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: Does it serve the interests of them to get people
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: to like, screw it, I'm not going to go out
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: and vote? Tom, you got an impression about that?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the reality is there are no real polls.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: It is totally propaganda. And the goal is to suppress
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: the vote, to make you think you can't win. And again,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: I will go back to the history of the We
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: The People convention, where we were doing our own polling
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: because we couldn't trust polls. In 2016, they kept telling
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: us Hillary Clinton was going to win Ohio by 16%.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: And our polls showed that Donald Trump was winning, even
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: after the October surprise, the Billy Bush tapes, and all
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: that stuff. We said Trump is going to win by 8.2%.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: And I had people from Ohio call me and write
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: to me after Trump won saying, Tom, if I hadn't
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: heard you say that we still could win, I would
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: have given up. So I'm urging everyone, don't give up.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: Don't believe the polls. They don't reflect reality. You have
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: to reflect reality. And I've been working on something I
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: want to try out with you, right? Because you and
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: I have been trying to message the Republicans who want
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: to stay home because of data centers and the SAVE
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: Act and property taxes, all that stuff. So let me
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: try this on you and your audience, see what you think.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: I said, think of this. There's a grizzly bear that's
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: the Republican Party, and there's a tiger that's the Democrat Party,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: and they both want to eat us. And we the
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: people are there with our little sharpened stick pointing at them,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: trying to keep them away from eating us. We have
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: a chance this election to help the grizzly bear kill
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: the tiger, and then afterwards, we'll only have to fight
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: the grizzly bear. That's why you need to go vote,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: because it's a lot easier if we can fight one
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: enemy instead of two. And right now we're fighting two.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: How do you like that? Does that help explain why
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: you should vote?
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, Tom.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. You know, both parties can be the enemy of
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: the people without question, which is why I just sort
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: of always define myself as a little libertarian. But the
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: tent I have to find myself in is the conservative
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: side of the ledger. Fiscal responsibility, limited government, free markets. Now,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: not everybody on my side of the political realm is
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: of that mindset. Republicans have dug us a hole as
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: well as Democrats. It's just Republicans don't dig a hole
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: as deep, and they're not as intrusive into our lives
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: as Democrats tend to be. So you're right. Let's take
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: care of the worst enemy first, and then we'll go
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: after the rhinos and the other pollutants in the Republican Party. Tom,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: it's an outstanding strategy.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I hope it makes sense and people can repeat
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: that because we're facing so much resistance and everyone's been asking, Tom,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: what do I say to these people, you know, who
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: are saying they're not going to vote? And I came
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: up with that because it kind of takes politics out
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: of it and just says it's about your survival. It
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: says about your survival. If you go to freedomforallpact.org, which
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: is our, you know, barn billboard program and stuff like that.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: We're trying to make it clear that the communists want
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: to kill us, literally, not figuratively, literally. And so you've
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: got to vote for your own self-preservation, and you're not
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: voting for Republicans. You're voting for yourself and for our nation.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: That's the point.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: We'll make more points with Tom Zawistowski. WeThePeopleConvention.org is his website.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: Bookmark it. You'll be glad. 740, 55-karat CD talk station.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: It's Tuesday. WeThePeopleConvention.org, Tom Zawistowski. every Tuesday beginning at 7.30. Tom,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: going back to your polling for the last election when
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: you had Trump winning when everybody else saying Hillary Clinton was,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: what were you doing differently that allowed you to call
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: it right or have it right after the election that
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: everybody else apparently missed by a mile?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what we did is we didn't pick who we
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: would poll. We would literally call every phone number in
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: the state of Ohio hoping to get responses from let
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: people self-select. And what we got was the people who
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: haven't voted in the last few elections but ended up
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: voting anyway, the people who aren't registered Democrats or Republicans.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: We weren't playing games. We wanted the truth. Why? Because
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: people donate to the We the People convention and want
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: me to lead them to victory, and I'm not going
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: to lie to myself or to them. So we did that.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: But I have to tell you something that's really sad.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: The Federal Communications Commission has put me out of business.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: I am not allowed to poll anymore because they changed
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: the rules that used to exempt political robocalls and text
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: messages and polling to be part of the do not
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: call thing now. And so they're now saying to me,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: Tom Zawistowski, you can't just call every phone number. They
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: have to opt in before you can call them, Brian. Well,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: how the hell do you get them to opt in
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: before you call them? I can't pull anymore, so I'm blind.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: How about that? And how in the hell do you,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: if you have opted into the Do Not Call registry,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: is it that we continue, like me, to get 9,000
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: different outreaches from 9,000 different presumably span outreaches, right?
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what the answer is? You know what
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: the answer is that I was told when I brought
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: this up?
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: The people who are doing that said, well... I pay
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: the fines. What I'm doing is illegal, but we just
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: pay the fines because we charge the clients so much
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: we can pay the fines. But I'm doing this for
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: someone who's running for a school board that has $ 500
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: and the penalty is $ 5, 000 per person you call, and
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: I'm personally responsible. It's a tragedy. I can't even explain it,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: but that's not the topic we're here to talk about.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about Mike DeWine's who is lying
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: to you. Mike DeWine thinks your listeners are stupid. He
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: thinks he can lie to you with impunity, and we're
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: about to expose that he's lying to you, and he
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: knows he's lying to you, and I'd sure as hell
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: like to know why he's doing it, because he's undermining
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: this election, and he's undermining your and my efforts to
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: get Republicans out to vote.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: Well, you piqued my curiosity, and of course the curiosity
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: of the entire listening audience right now. Tom, in what
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: way is he playing us?
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, so when we first, the We the People Convention,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: if you go to wethepeopleconvention.org, you'll see in the article section,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: the story about we brought this to Vivek and Amy
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: Acton and the legislature in April and May of this
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: year saying, hey, we can suspend the gas tax because
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: you took like $ 3 billion from us that you don't need.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: So give us our damn money back. And when we
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: did that, we showed the receipts. The OMB said, listen,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: we've got $ 1. 2 billion in taxes that we've collected that
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: we didn't budget for. It was more than we expected. Well,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: Mike DeWine goes, yeah, I'm against cutting or suspending the
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: gas tax because we need that money to fix the roads.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: We need that for highway projects. I said, Mike, you've
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: got the money.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 7: You can just.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: Transfer that $ 1. 2 billion to the Department of Transportation fund
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: and give us a tax suspension, and it wouldn't hurt anything. Oh,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: he said, no, no, no, we don't have the money. Well, then, Brian,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: it got worse. They had collected $ 1. 2 billion in May
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: was their projection, but by July 6th, They basically said,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: the OPM, Office of Budget Management, said that on October 6th,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: we really collected $ 1. 8 billion more than we need.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: $ 1.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: 8 billion. Oh, but it gets worse. On July 17th,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: they come back and say, oh, by the way, not
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: only did we collect $ 1. 8 billion more from you than
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: we need, than we budget, but we have $ 800 billion
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: in that we were going to spend that was in
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: the budget that we didn't spend because of fraud and
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: things like that and Medicaid that we didn't spend it.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: So $ 1. 8 and $ 800 million is $ 2. 6 billion. And Mike
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: DeWine's on TV right now on Channel 5 saying, oh,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: we can't afford this. This would be a disaster. The
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: money is just not there. It's there. I just talked
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: to Robert Sprague. last night and said, Robert, you told
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: me the money was there. What the hell was DeWine
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: talking about? And he says, I don't know, because the
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: money's there and the legislature just needs to transfer it
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: from these funds that got more money than they need
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: into the Department of Transportation. And DeWine has no complaint.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: So what's the deal, Brian? Why is Mike DeWine blowing
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: up Vivek Ramaswamy when the whole reason I proposed this
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: was to get Republicans excited about voting for Republicans because
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: they'd actually do something. And now Mike DeWine's trying to
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: blow it up. Whose side is he on, really?
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: I know Jay's probably listening right now, so I have
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: to interject. Maybe he's on the side of the Cleveland
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: Browns since he found $ 600 million to give them for
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: their damn stadium.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had that money, right? And again, they're gaslighting
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: us about, first of all, they said, oh, it's going
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: to cost $ 700 million for this 90-day gas holiday. Now
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: we're talking $ 750 million. I did the calculations. It's $ 640 million.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: They're lying to you. And I want everyone listening to
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: this program, I don't care if you're a Republican or
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: a Democrat, because remember, Amy Acton kicked this off. Amy
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: Atkins says, I'm in favor of a gas tax holiday
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: to help hardworking Ohioans. So call your Democrat and Republican
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: House and Senate member and say, you damn well better
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: pass this. Don't you lie to me. You took our money.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: We want it back.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: You know, Tom, you really have to turn on the passion.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: You're just being really too calm about this issue. I
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: think it deserves more attention from you. Seriously, excellent job
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: summing that one up, Tom Zee. I have really been
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: scratching my head over DeWine for as long as I
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: can remember, but the whole Amy Acton defense has just
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: been mind-blowing to me as well. I guess maybe he
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: thinks his reputation is on the line because she was
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: his pick for the role of medical director. But he
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: is desperate to defend her.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: How else can you figure? Again, I'm being told. What
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: a surprise. Because remember, in May, I asked Acton and Ramaswamy.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: I said, you guys are running for governor lead. Ask
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: for this and push your legislature, Democrat, Republican to do this. Well,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: neither one did it. Well, then all of a sudden,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: Amy Acton does it. Right before Vivek's going to have
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: a press conference. Well, why did that happen? Well, I've
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: heard some people suggest that DeWine is the one who
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: tipped her off so she could act before them. I
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: just don't trust him as far as I can throw him.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't support him in any election. He's more than
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: a rhino. He's a Democrat. And here he is trying
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: to stop Vivek from winning the governorship. If that doesn't
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: get you to turn out the vote in your own self-defense,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know what will. But if they don't pass
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: this gas tax, you should be outraged. This gas tax suspension,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: you should be outraged.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: Tom Z, don't go. We've got a couple more minutes
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: in the next segment to talk. And affordability, obviously a
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: huge problem. Gasoline, just one of them. But do people
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: remember what the Democrats stand for? And do they really
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: believe affordability is going to be given by the Democrats
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: if they take over? The answer will be absolutely no.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: From 55KRC, the talk station. 751, 55KRC, the talk station.
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  Speaker 6: Happy Tuesday.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas here with Tom Zawistowski, wethepeopleconvention.org. It's Tom Zawistowski.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: We hit the inside scoop of Breitbart News after the
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: top of the hour news. Tom Z, obviously inflation's a
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: real problem, and I think Donald Trump maybe overstated his
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: campaign pledge to say on day one he was causing
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: inflation to go down, which who could possibly do that?
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: But are Democrats the answer to the affordability problem we're
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: facing this year? And the answer is clearly no. If
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: you look at the inflation rate under Biden versus Trump
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: in his first and second term, Biden a lot higher.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: If you look at housing prices under the Biden administration,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: housing prices rose 5.3 percent compared to Trump's 2.7 in
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: the first term, 3.7 so far in the second. So
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: housing was more expensive. Costs double, almost triple as much
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: to build apartments in heavily regulated states like California with
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: state and local prevailing wage mandates versus elsewhere like Texas
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: where it's a lot cheaper to build something. They want
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: federal minimum wage to rise dramatically. That is an inflation-increasing
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: reality the Democrats want. And you look at the price
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: of gasoline, ignoring the current bubble we've got, Biden adjusted
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: for inflation price of gasoline more expensive than under the
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: Trump administration. Climate policy, I keep going back to this.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: They want the price of gas to go up, Tom.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: Climate policy in California, they have to pay $ 6. 37 a gallon.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: Diesel's $ 8. 40 out there.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: They have a cap-and-trade program, low-carbon fuel standards, heavy fuel taxes. Elsewhere,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: they don't. Residential electricity rates double in Democrat states.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: Because of their climate policies and the fact that they
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: shut down refineries and inefficient sources of energy production and
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: replacing them for renewables. This is what you're going to
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: get with the Democrats, Tom. They're on record. They still
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: want this stuff. coupled with more social welfare spending, more
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: regulation on health care, more spending, generally speaking, and more
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: green energy subsidies. That's what you're going to get.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what you've already got, right? Everything you just
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: said is correct, but that's from the people that they
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: say were the same Democrats, right? This is before we
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: inject the Democrat, socialist, Marxist, communist plan. And if you
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: go to wethepeopleconvention.org, on the front page, there's four blocks,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: and one says to our 2026 election strategy. If you
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: go to that page, you will see the Will Cain
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: Cato Institute story about how all the things the DSA
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: wants to do is going to cost $ 200 trillion.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: Over 10 years.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: It's going to come from you. If you go to
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: WeThePeopleConvention.org to our election strategy, you will see that. videos
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: of the DSA members saying, oh yeah, we do want
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: amnesty for all. We want open borders. We want free healthcare,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: free college for everyone. We want to get rid of
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: the presidency, the Supreme Court. That's what you're really voting on.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: Because guess what? All those Democrats who gave us what
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: you just said, they're going to vote for the DSA.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: You know why? Because the DSA, communism is government at
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: the point of a gun. The DSA will intimidate them.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: That local Democrat that you've known in Cincinnati your whole life,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: who's a nice person, they're really not that radical. If
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: you elect them this time, They don't have the option
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: of using their common sense and doing what they know
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: you want. They're going to be intimidated. And don't believe me.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: Just go look at the House member who said, I
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: wasn't going to vote for this bill until they came
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: after my family.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: Talk to John Fetterman. This is serious stuff, folks. And
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: you can't vote for any Democrat for any position because
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: they're all going to be sucked into this vortex. If
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: we vote against every Democrat and vote for Republicans, we
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: can make them to go the way of the Whigs.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: We can kill the tiger and then we can work
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: on the bear. That's the goal. You've got to stop
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: this or they're going to hurt you, you personally. They're
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: going to take your money, guaranteed.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: Heed Tom Zawistowski's words one more time. We, the People Convention,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: or Dom, keep up the great work. We'll do this
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: again next Tuesday. Brother, have a great week between now
• 1:36:59
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• 1:37:05
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• 1:37:06
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• 1:37:14
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• 1:37:18
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• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: of political editor Bradley Jay. Welcome back to the 55
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: KRC Morning Show, my friend. It's always a pleasure having
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: you on.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: Good morning. It's always fun to be with you.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it, man. I appreciate what you guys do
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: at Breitbart every day. I always say 55 KRC Morning
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: Show does rely on Breitbart as a news source and
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: some excellent news you have there, including news about Jack Smith.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: Jack Smith apparently going to be testifying today, beginning at
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: 9 a.m. in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee about, well,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: his antics going after Donald Trump and seeking indictments against
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump. And I saw your article about this violation
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: of purchasing rules. But before we start into that, he
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: has testified previously. Are we going to run into a
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: Fauci Fifth Amendment assertion today, or is he actually going
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: to answer questions? Do you have any insight into that, Bradley?
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: That's a good question.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 9: Senate Judiciary Committee is anticipating him speaking today. Excuse me.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 9: I mean, nothing is is for sure until he does.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 9: But if you think about how Fauci conducted himself, I
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 9: remember he had the fake pardon. We think it was
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 9: an auto pin pardon. It only covered up to a
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 9: certain amount of time after which it, like you would
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 9: think that Fauci would have to go before Congress and
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 9: actually talk. So there were all these kinds of questions.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 9: We don't have that with Jack Smith. Jack Smith did
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 9: not receive a pardon.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: So I don't know.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 9: I'm optimistic that, that we see him today. And I
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 9: know that Republican senators are as well. And frankly, I
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 9: think that a lot of the Democrat senators would would
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 9: not want to deal with the headache of him pleading
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 9: the fifth either.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's a valid point. But at least insofar
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: as Fauci is concerned, there was, I think, you know,
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: from a lawyer's perspective, which am somewhat legitimate argument that
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump or rather Biden couldn't pardon him for state
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: crimes and that some crafty, uh, state attorney general could
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: easily come up with something to charge Fauci with in
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: terms of violating any given state law, like Florida, for example,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: jumps out as a, as a state that might pursue him.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: So he still has potential criminal charges against him, which
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: I think is the, was served as the basis for
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: his assertion. Uh, Smith, however, no pardon. So that's not
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: a question, not an issue here, but then again, the
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: absence of a pardon even suggests perhaps he may have
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: more reason to, uh, to assert the fifth. Now, um,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: I guess I'm going to do a little explaining here
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: because you wrote about the the Smith's office purchasing, violating
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: its own purchasing rules to acquire some forensic video software
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: prior to indicting Donald Trump. There was some urgency here.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: So we have rules in place regarding purchases, which, as
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: you report, were violated. But the urgency with which this
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: information was was expressed, we need this quickly. Break the
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: facts down for my listening audience, would you please, Bradley?
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: Because I think this is really important. Of course, it's
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: probably going to come up today.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: I believe it might come up today.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 9: So what I reported, and this comes from files that
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 9: were obtained from the Oversight Project via a FOIA request.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 9: The Oversight Project does a fantastic job with a lot
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 9: of this, and they've been leaders in trying to expose
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 9: individuals so much of what Jack's done. But you had
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 9: to go back to June 26, back in 2023. This
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 9: was after Mar-a-Lago had been raided. This was after Jack
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 9: Smith had been appointed as special counsel, illegally, it turns out,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 9: by Merrick Garland, Biden's attorney general. So back on June
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 9: 26 of 2023, Jack Smith had already indicted Trump once.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 9: He had already indicted him over the business records case. Remember,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 9: he claimed that Trump had obtained classified documents or whatever.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: Fine.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 9: But he was already moving towards doing more. And it's interesting,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 9: and I note this in the article, that after the election,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 9: which Biden, of course, ended up not being on the
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 9: ballot because he was replaced by Kamala, but Biden reportedly
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 9: expressed his disappointment appointing Merrick Garland because Garland and Jack
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 9: Smith didn't move fast enough to go after Trump. So
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 9: that's an interesting tidbit here. But anyways, so back in June,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 9: what Jack Smith did is he made a very unusual
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 9: request to a company called Axon. Axon is a large investigation, telecommunication,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 9: electronics organization.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: But what Jack Smith wanted.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 9: Is he said that he had video files that he
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 9: needed converted. It was very, very mysterious. He didn't say
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 9: what they were. He called them proprietary. But his office
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 9: said that they needed them urgently. They said, quote, we
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 9: are in desperate need of this software. The wheels started turning. Now,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 9: if anyone who's worked in the federal government knows that
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 9: there are all kinds of procurement requirements and all this, well,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 9: Jack Smith, according to his office, even went above and
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 9: beyond those.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: However, all of that was thrown to the side.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 9: And I document a lot of that email traffic in
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 9: my story on Breitbart.com. But why this is so interesting is, well,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 9: first off, we don't know what the video is. It's
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 9: interesting because this is just a couple of weeks before
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 9: he indicts Trump a second time. this time for alleged electioneering,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 9: election interference in the 2020 election. And if you go
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 9: back and look at all these files that Oversight Project has,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 9: not only did Jack Smith break his own office's rules
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 9: to get this software to view this mysterious video as
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 9: quickly as possible, but there's all kinds of evidence that
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 9: no one wanted their fingerprints on it. there are all
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 9: these forms that have missing signature blocks. Anytime there's a
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 9: description of what this software is supposed to do, what
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 9: they're going to use it for, they leave it, even
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 9: for government, they leave it incredibly vague or attach misleading
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 9: descriptions of it. And interestingly as well, they reference some
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 9: kind of an audit that they say is making it
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 9: more difficult for them to pull off something like this.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: But it's Very interesting.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 9: And I think that the American people, the taxpayers who
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 9: had to pay, you know, tens of millions of dollars
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 9: for their own federal government to try to put a
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 9: presidential candidate in prison need to know what this video was,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 9: who authorized the breaking of office rules, federal government rules
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 9: to acquire.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: The means to view this video.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 9: I mean, all of this is documented in these emails
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 9: and why it was so urgent. And if you look,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 9: it clearly was very, very critical in the actual indictment
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 9: of Donald Trump. So this is just indicative of how
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 9: shadowy and opaque the Jack Smith investigation is, We still
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 9: don't even know all the people, all the federal employees
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 9: who were involved in it. We still don't know how
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 9: much it cost. This software and the hardware necessary to
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 9: convert those videos, we don't know where it is. We
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 9: don't know what happened to it. But also the company,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 9: if you look at the files that I reported on,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 9: There is a data sharing agreement. So does Axon, does
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 9: this company, do they have these files still?
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 4: We just don't know.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 9: I expect that just here in under an hour when
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 9: Jack Smith begins testifying that this is going to be
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 9: something that will be talked about by Republican senators and
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 9: Jack Smith may have to provide some answers.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: Now, you mentioned this all swirls around election interference in
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: the 2020 election. Is this the January 6th related investigation, Bradley?
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 9: Yes, I mean, that was one of the critical components
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 9: of that 2020 electioneering allegation and indictment against Trump. But again,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 9: there's so many questions about that that we don't even know. Remember,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 9: Jack Smith, after the election, he had to drop this case.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 9: Judge Cannon down in Florida ended up throwing out the
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 9: previous indictment on the business records. But she said that
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 9: Jack Smith wasn't even legally appointed. So then this aspect
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 9: of Jack Smith's investigation ended up floundering as well. But
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 9: with all of that going on and the tens of
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 9: millions of taxpayer dollars that went into it, it's just
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 9: unbelievable that we still don't have any answers about how,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 9: I mean, this critical, critical historical moment in our history,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 9: we still don't know almost anything about it.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: Well, and it's rather interesting since the case went away,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: they would have had an obligation to produce all this
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: stuff to Donald Trump so he could defend himself. There
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: is an obligation. Prosecutors have it. From a legal perspective,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: the criminal rules of justice require the prosecutors to provide
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: the defendant with all of the evidence they have that
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 3: has any impact or relationship to the underlying allegation. So
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: this video, to the extent it was involved in the indictment,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: clearly would have had to been provided to the Trump
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: campaign in an effort when they were defending him. So
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: it's almost as if Gee, I kind of wish the
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: discovery component and the evidence had to have been turned
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: over before the case disappeared. We'd have all the answers
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: to these questions, Bradley.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: It almost suggests.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 9: that this was never about the actual court process, but
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 9: maybe there was a little bit of election interfering going
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 9: on with Jack Smith and Mary Garland and Joe Biden, right?
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just talk about an investigation, you throw out
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: an indictment with no intention of following through with it,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: just to, you know, well, hell, they've been after Donald
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 3: Trump forever. I guess, Bradley, I sort of have to
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: interject my often-asked question. What in the hell, by way
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 3: of strategy, are the Democrats going to do after Donald
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: Trump's gone? I mean, they've been burning that Donald Trump
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: evil orange man fuel for so long now. When he
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: disappears from the political landscape, I'm not quite sure what
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: they're going to be left with.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got that muscle memory.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 9: Just their reflex for 10 years or more has just
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 9: been orange man bad, attack orange man. And now that
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 9: that's gone, what's going to happen? If you look at
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 9: all the different factions of the Democrat Party, they've kind
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 9: of been held together over the past, Really, over the
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 9: past 20 years, somewhat tenuously, they've been aided in the
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 9: past 10 years or so by their joint hatred of
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 9: Donald Trump. But I think that a Democrat's war is coming. Remember,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 9: I mean, it's been since 2008 since the Democrats had
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 9: a truly contentious, contested national presidential election. Of course, Obama
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 9: beat Hillary. That wasn't wasn't like it was a big brouhaha.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 9: There were just two folks on the main card. Then
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 9: you had Obama's reelection and they cleared the way with
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 9: the superdelegates in 16 for Hillary. In 2020, they said
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 9: that the process was reformed, but they didn't. They still
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 9: delivered it for Biden. And then, of course, the appointment
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 9: of Kamala. So there are all these different factions in
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 9: the Democrat Party that are anxious to have their day.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 9: And a lot of these factions I don't think can
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 9: exist under the same tent, at least not very easily.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 9: So I think that Republicans would be smart to stop
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 9: fighting amongst themselves all these old school Republicans who are
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 9: intent on burning down the party just so.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 4: They can rule over the ashes of these folks coming
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 4: after J.D.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 9: Vance and trying to kill America first because they're going
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 9: to give the Democrats an opening.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: Bradley J. Someone just whispered Mitch McConnell into my headset.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: Good job, Joe Strecker. Point well taken. Now that's a fart.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: Going back, Bradley J. We're all critical of Mitch McConnell
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: here on the 55 KRC Morning Show, Bradley, because our
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: side of the political ledger, the conservative side, should not
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: be pulling shenanigans like that. That's what Biden did. That's
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: what Amy Acton, a current gubernatorial candidate, they hide and
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: they don't want to actually provide information. So anyway, I will.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: Back to the information that Jack Smith or wherever the
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 3: video evidence is that he wanted this Axon investigations to
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: crunch down digitally. I find it surprising, as is the
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: case with any Senate hearing or even a House hearing,
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: that they are deprived of the documents, that our own
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: elected officials can't get their hands on this information. Is
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: this in a state of discovery right now? I mean,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: do we have any hope that this is ultimately going
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: to be produced? Are we just going to be left
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: in the dark about what exactly he was talking about
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: when he had this urgency to get this stuff digitized?
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 4: So that's a very interesting question. I will say this.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 9: The Democrats, they knew that Jack Smith was eventually going
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 9: to have to testify for Congress. Months and months and months,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 9: they have been trying to hold this hearing. And Chuck Grassley,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 9: to his credit, he's the top Republican on the Senate
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 9: Judiciary Committee, has held them off.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 9: Because his team of investigators was trying to produce this documentation.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 4: All these outside groups.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 9: Like the Oversight Project through FOIA request were trying to
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 9: produce as much as they could before they got Jack
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 9: Smith in front of them across that table at these hearings.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 9: I don't know everything that Chuck Grassley has right now.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 9: Congressional investigators are always at a disadvantage because they just
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 9: simply don't have the staff to do this. But I'm
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 9: very interested in seeing what Chuck Grassley does.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 4: May have in store today.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 9: But also to your point, the congressional investigators who have
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 9: a constitutional oversight duty and should have access to this information,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 9: they don't.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 4: Yet Jack Smith.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 9: Through Arctic Frost, was illegally spying on United States senators,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 9: which is illegal, unconstitutional. So I mean, there's this power
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 9: disparity here. And Jack Smith has so many questions that
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 9: he needs to answer today, and this is going to
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 9: be an absolute blockbuster hearing. I'm very excited about it,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 9: and all of us at brightpart.com are as well.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 3: I imagine so. Get your popcorn out, put your feet up,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: turn the TV on. I guess it starts at 9 a.m.,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: and CBS, I guess, is going to cover it. I
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 3: have their site up, but also I'm sure Fox News
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: and others will be carrying it. Watch live, and we'll
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: all enjoy it together. Bradley Jay, politics editor over at Breitbart.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 3: Bookmark the site. Enjoy what Bradley and the folks at
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: Breitbart report on each and every day. Bradley, it's always
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 3: a pleasure to have you on, man. We'll do it
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: again real soon. And enjoy the political theater today, my friend.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 4: Looking forward to joining you again. Y'all enjoy it as well.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: Thanks, brother. Have a great one. Don't go away. Folks,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: we got Steve Gooden, our good lawyer. See the talk station.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: It's 829 on a Tuesday. Happy one to you. Normally,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: the Daniel Davis deep dive. Daniel is on vacation, so
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: we'll get a war analysis next week with the return
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: of Daniel Davis. In the meantime, though, I am so
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: happy to welcome back to the 55 KRC Morning Show,
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: Op Ed Ryder. Steve Gooden, our regular legal expert. Somebody
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: has some legal skills, and it's certainly Steve Gooden by
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: comparison to me because he's with Porter Wright, outstanding law
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 3: firm filled with outstanding lawyers. And since he regularly practices law,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 3: he hasn't gotten rusty like I have. Welcome back, Steve.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: It's great to have you back on, man.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's like riding a bike, Mike. We'll just have
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 5: you down to do some depositions this week, and you'll
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 5: be just fine.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what? I think I can manage depositions.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: It's everything else. It's the rules of civil procedure. And
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: of course, the 20 years that I have not been
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: actively practicing law, although I still am licensed, that I
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: have lost track of the discovery obligations in this electronic
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: age we find ourselves in. And onerous they are, and
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 3: lawyers are charged with really having to guarantee that their
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 3: clients have produced all the documents and information in any
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: given litigation. That's a tough road to hoe there, Steve.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, and it's a silly one.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 5: We spent half our time, uh, going through other people's
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: emails and violating their privacy. Um, you know, in the
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: thought that there's some smoking gun when of course anyone
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 5: with any sense wouldn't put anything negative in an email
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 5: to begin with. So, uh, it's, it's all, it's all
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 5: just a way that the, uh, The Ohio State Bar
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 5: Association has devised all these discovery obligations so that everyone
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 5: can bill to read emails that are worthless and drive
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 5: up legal costs. That's my personal opinion.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: You may have something there. It's ridiculous.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 5: It's ridiculous what happens.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: Detecting its own, jacking up billable rates, and God knows
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: its lawyers are really expensive. Anyway, moving away from it.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: Moving away from that, I wanted to get your reaction,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: if I may, before we dive into your op-ed piece,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 3: your open letter to Mark Jeffries, which is obviously a
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 3: commentary to all members of council. But did you see,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 3: I've been making fun of this all morning, the council
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: proposal to deal with the thefts of guns from cars
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 3: by obligating parking lot and garage owners to install cameras
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 3: or hire a 24-hour day, seven-day-a-week security guard because, well,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 3: people steal guns from cars.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's absurd.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: And in fact, you know, I had some conversations last
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 5: week about actually representing some of these parking lot owners
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 5: and tried to sue the city to stop this. It's
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 5: going to be hard to do, I think, unfortunately, under
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 5: the state of the law in Ohio. But it's really
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 5: kind of silly, and it's more of what the city
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 5: has been doing, which is rather than invest in public
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 5: safety and law enforcement, which is unpopular with certain segments
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 5: of the electorate here in the city. they're just trying
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 5: to offload public safety into these other departments. So instead
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 5: of traffic interdiction, you get speed bumps. And now instead
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 5: of an increased police presence downtown trying to figure out
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 5: what's going on with these guns, now they're putting it
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 5: onto the parking garage owners. And you know what? Here's
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 5: what's crazy about it. If you don't comply with this,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 5: the proposed fine is $ 10, 000. Like you get hit with.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: A $ 10, 000.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 5: Fine Um, if you, if you don't put, do all
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: these things as a, as a parking garage owner. So it's,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 5: it's kind of crazy. Uh, and they're also saying that,
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 5: you know, a lot of the service lots are going
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 5: to have to be fenced off, which is going to
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 5: really change the way downtown looks and feels and make
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 5: it even harder to walk around. Uh, and of course,
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 5: you know, like a fence is going to do anything.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 5: If someone's really intent on trying to jump in and,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 5: you know, and break into a car. So the whole
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: thing's just kind of silly. It's just kind of rearranging
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 5: the deck chairs on the Titanic. You know, there are
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 5: 300 cops short on a given day. They know that
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 5: the police officers we have now are stressed out, overworked,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: working too much overtime. We have too many guns in
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 5: the city. They're not really working with ATI for the
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 5: feds anymore the way they used to to try to
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 5: reduce the flow of guns into the city because it's
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 5: politically unpopular. They don't want to look like they're working
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 5: with anyone in the Trump administration. So That what historically
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 5: back when I was a prosecutor, we had a very,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 5: very good relationship with the FBI and ATF and local
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 5: law enforcement to stem the guns. That's dead right now.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 5: So instead, they're jacking around with parking garages. And there's
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 5: really no proof that it's going to do anything at
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 5: all other than hassle people.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: Well, there's no question. Obviously, the price of parking will
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 3: go up if they have a 10. You know, first off,
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 3: if it's $ 10, 000 fine, obviously, compared to hiring a security agent,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: I just write the $ 10, 000 check. Maybe it's every year.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 3: So the $ 10, 000 additional cost of doing business will go
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: into the city council's coffers and fine. But I'm sure
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: as hell I'm not going to hire somebody to do that.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the cost of cameras are, but
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: if it's a reoccurring $ 10, 000 fine, say, annually, then you
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 3: might have to go down that road. But really, will
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: cameras do anything? They're all over the place, generally speaking.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 3: And this is on the heels. This obligation is being
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: placed on business owners on the heels of efforts to
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: get rid of flock cameras because of privacy.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 7: So.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 3: This is still maybe intrusive into people's privacy. What can
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 3: the property owners do with the video they've collected? Do
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: they have an obligation to keep it? And I asked
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: out loud to Joe Strecker and my listening audience this morning,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: if you just put a mask on, they're not going
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 3: to have any evidence against you that you committed a crime.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 3: a crime in a given parking lot. So it's kind
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: of a worthless gesture, although Joe suggested that nobody cares
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: whether or not they get caught because nothing ever happens
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: to them going back to the problem we have in
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: the judicial system here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, precisely.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look, people steal guns all the time and
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 5: they get probation for it, number one. Number two, um,
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 5: you're right. I mean, it's just another step toward a
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 5: complete surveillance state. And number three, anybody, uh, you know,
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 5: the criminals are listening to this conversation we're having right now. Uh,
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 5: they'll just mask up and do whatever it is that they, uh,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 5: they need to do to conceal their identity. So you're
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 5: going to have some footage of someone, uh, wearing a mask,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 5: stealing a gun, uh, and leaving on foot. And it's
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 5: going to be, uh, by the time anyone reviews it,
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 5: you know, days or even weeks later, it's going to
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 5: be absolutely and totally worthless. So, uh, No, all you're
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 5: going to do is have endless hours of footage of
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 5: law-abiding citizens coming in and out of parking garages. So
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 5: what that's going to accomplish, I don't know, but it
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 5: will be a headline or two, and they can run
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 5: around at City Hall and say, hey, look, we did something.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 5: It's more of this, what I always call the performative politics.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 5: They're just performing to say, look, we did something. Some
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 5: heavy response.
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  Speaker 3: And of course, the video evidence would have to be
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 3: turned over to law enforcement to investigate the crime that's
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 3: being done. An already overstressed, overworked group of law enforcement
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 3: officers who have little incentive to pursue crime because, of course,
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 3: nobody's ever prosecuted for it. I also had a question,
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 3: Steve Gooden, for a move over to your op ed piece.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 3: Sort of just kind of a joking suggestion. Maybe Charmaine
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 3: McGuffey will have to install a camera in her driveway
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 3: because of the number of firearms that were stolen from
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: her vehicle.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, poor, yeah, Sheriff McGuffey does have a bad track
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 5: record with losing firearms. Yeah, maybe she ought to do that.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 5: Maybe they ought to add that to any high-ranking sheriff's
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 5: department official also has to have one of these cameras. So, yeah,
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 5: she's lost a lot of guns there for a while.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 5: That's a huge morale issue over there, by the way.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 5: It's just when you have the head law enforcement officer
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 5: who can't keep track of those things. If that happened
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 5: to a rank-and-file sheriff's deputy, they'd be losing their job.
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  Speaker 3: Indeed. All right, pivoting over to the op-ed piece, well done.
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  Speaker 3: You wrote a letter to Cincinnati Councilmember Mark Jeffries, and
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 3: I thought you did a good summing up some of
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 3: the problems on council.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: A to-do list, which you obviously know nothing on the
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 3: list is going to be done, but you mentioned certain
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 3: segments of the community that are against law enforcement. Iris
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 3: Rowley comes to mind immediately. Oh, lo and behold, you
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 3: mention her in your op-ed piece. Terminate Iris Rowley's contract.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 3: I think it's an outstanding idea. If you're trying to
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 3: win over the hearts and minds of maybe lateral higher officers,
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 3: That'd be a good starting place.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look, I cannot overemphasize what a morale issue
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 5: she is, both for the uniformed police department and for
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 5: the non-uniformed civil servants who go to work in there
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 5: every day, because there's two parts of the Irish drama.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 5: One is you have a police critic who basically has
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 5: free reign to walk around City Hall and And to
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 5: do her contract explicitly allows her to criticize people, allows
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 5: her to follow police officers around and videotape them, allows
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 5: her to go to city council meetings and basically stir
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 5: up this anti-police sentiment. And she's reporting directly to the
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 5: city manager and the mayor with no other responsibilities. It's
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 5: a terrible kind of thing. And she also has these
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 5: other initiatives she does, including passing out sandwiches and fruit
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 5: at bus stations under the theory that that will reduce
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 5: gun violence somehow, which is even more bizarre to me
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 5: than these cameras. But the second piece of it is
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 5: she's not a regular city employee. She has something called
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 5: the Collaborative Foundation, or she funnels hundreds of thousands of
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 5: dollars through. She's basically treated like a nonprofit employee. and
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 5: an independent contractor, she doesn't have the regular obligations of
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 5: a city employee. We do have a very good and
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 5: strong civil service set of rules in the city. You
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 5: have a pay scale. You are not allowed to engage
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 5: in political activity, which she does all the time. She
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 5: is being treated very, very differently and paid a lot
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 5: more than the average city employee. So she's crushing the
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 5: morale of the police by being an in-house police critic,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 5: and then crushing the morale of everyone else by getting
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 5: paid more and being allowed to play by her own
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 5: set of rules. It is, to me, a no-brainer that
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 5: she has to go, but she has a political constituency.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 5: She is now involved in every police shooting, just even
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 5: over the weekend, standing there at the podium, even though
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 5: she has no credentials in law enforcement whatsoever. Just this
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 5: idea that she's somehow providing political cover, and really that's
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 5: what it is. They're paying her to provide political cover
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 5: to the mayor and the city manager in the event
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 5: that there's ever any kind of criticism from certain segments
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 5: of the community about police shootings. I mean, that's why
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 5: she's there. They can't say that out loud. But it's absurd.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 5: It's bad business. It's bad politics. It's unethical. It just
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 5: looks terrible. And it's time for her to go. Whatever
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 5: good she did 27 years ago, And sort of helping
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 5: the city get past the Timothy Thomas situation and the
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 5: riots that followed and the collaborative agreement. There were things
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 5: that came out of that, maybe that were good and
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 5: that actually did improve police community relations. But that was
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 5: a long time ago. And the idea that she sort
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 5: of monetized that here in 2026 is something that should
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 5: really bother anybody who's looking at this subjectively.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 3: Of course, the source of that relationship with the city
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 3: of Cincinnati and Iris Rowley, I think, lands in the
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 3: lap of the city manager, who you also had a
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 3: go at in your op-ed piece. End the love fest
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 3: with our city manager, says Steve Gooden.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, anyone else who was working in any
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 5: kind of managing anything, If you had multiple employees suing
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 5: you for wrongful termination, as she does, both the fire
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 5: chief and the police chief are winning their cases. They're
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 5: surviving summary judgment. They're moving forward. They're marching through the
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 5: federal court system. If you had someone who's in charge
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 5: of trash pickup and you have almost a dozen neighborhoods
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 5: that didn't get their trash picked up for two weeks,
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 5: if you have someone who's in charge of maintaining our roadways,
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 5: And you just drive down our city streets and they're
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 5: filled with potholes that are either half past or not
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 5: past at all. And it's just an embarrassment when you
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 5: have people come in from out of town trying to
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 5: drive around our streets. If you had a police department
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 5: that she's in charge of that is understaffed the way
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 5: it's understaffed with no plan really to dig out. Even
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 5: if you had snow removal, you're in charge of snow
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 5: removal and you have like snow removal problems every year
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 5: in terms of just basic preparation and logistics. I think
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 5: anyone else would be asking questions. Instead, she gets a
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 5: raise every year and gets these glowing reviews because, again,
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 5: there's this perception that she has a political constituency in
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 5: the city who will not stand to have her criticized.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 5: And that's one of the reasons why the city feels
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 5: dirtier and rougher and meaner is we have a city
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 5: manager who's not doing a very good job and a
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 5: city council that's afraid to criticize her. And their job
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 5: actually in the charter is that's part of what they're
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 5: supposed to do. They're supposed to manage her.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 3: Well, it's like a child with his hands over his ears,
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 3: his eyes closed, going, la, la, la, la, la, la.
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 3: We don't want to hear it. We don't want to
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 3: hear it. But there's criticism all over the place. I mean,
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 3: the firing of the police chief and the fire chief
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 3: alone are enough to get anybody else canned. I don't
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 3: get it. And, you know, Steve, I don't know if
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 3: you have any inside baseball on this. It's still interim
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 3: police chief Hennie. They haven't even resolved that yet.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 5: That is another monstrous morale issue for the police department.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 5: We have not had a police chief now in a
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 5: full scale police chief in almost a year. You know,
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 5: so he's he's acting, you know, which puts him in
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 5: a really, really bad position and frankly, undercuts his authority.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 5: And moreover, they're what they're doing to him and making
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 5: him do. I mean, they're basically making him work with
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 5: Iris Rowley. and he's going along with it. So he's
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 5: losing credibility every day that he's at one of these
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 5: press conferences talking about the collaborative agreement or standing there
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 5: at a podium with her, almost like a co-chief. It's
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 5: really hurting him with the rank and file. So I
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 5: don't know if they're seeing this as some sort of
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 5: extended tryout to be chief or what. The idea that
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 5: there isn't a plan, there isn't a timetable, that's really disturbing.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 5: And of course, the flip side is, is Chief Fiji
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 5: is still demanding to be reinstated in her lawsuit.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 3: I was just going to say, maybe that's the reason.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 5: I think that's unlikely, but I think that the fact
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 5: that that's still out there in those pleadings is probably,
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 5: it continues to undercut him. So he's like, you know,
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 5: he's like in this like bizarre situation where he's like
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 5: kind of the chief, kind of not. Um, you know,
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 5: he's bringing some new initiatives and fresh thinking in some
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 5: of what he's doing is actually really, really good. And
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 5: he does have a following within the department, but, um,
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 5: he's really losing credibility every day. He has to stay
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 5: in there with Iris Rowley and then in the name acting, uh,
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 5: beside his name.
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 2: It's been almost a year.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 3: No question. And boy, Lord knows these Cincinnati police department
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 3: officers do not need more, uh, morale busters. And I
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 3: didn't realize that was such a profound morale buster, but
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 3: I guess when you connect, uh, interim police chief with
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 3: Iris Rowley. I can see how that might have a
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 3: profound impact. Real quickly, you mentioned the roads. Those are
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 3: existing infrastructure, and you did question out loud in a
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 3: very comical way in your op-ed piece, where in the
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 3: hell's the railroad money? Steve, one more topic before we
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 3: part company this morning.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 5: Well, I actually suggested we use a word tougher than hell,
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 5: but I'll tell you, it's, you know, look, you know,
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 5: this railroad thing is one of the great like head
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 5: scratchers right now. And I guess since I wrote the article,
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 5: they actually are releasing some of the funds. But the
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 5: idea was pretty simple behind it, which was we were
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 5: going to have enhanced.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 6: Pavings.
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 5: Out of the, the thing's going to throw off 50
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 5: to $ 60 million a year, this railroad trust. And I,
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 5: and we usually spend about 50 to $ 60 million a year,
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 5: just keeping the roads at baseline from the city budget.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 5: And the thought was this would double it. And in fact,
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 5: it's pretty clear that the city intends to just offload
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 5: that obligation under the railroad trust, but the railroad trust
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 5: is independent and only spends the money when it wants
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 5: to spend the money. I mean, the city council has
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 5: no control over it. So right now we've been in
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 5: a standoff where the roads are getting worse and nothing's
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 5: really happening. And I guess there is some paving coming.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 5: It's good news, but it's too late in the year.
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 5: And we always know as someone, when I was on
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 5: city council, the real damage to the roads occur in
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 5: the winter because you have ice that gets in the
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 5: cracks and you have where the potholes really develop. So
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 5: they're way behind and we're going to have, it's going
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 5: to be at least a year, year and a half
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 5: to dig out of this, even if they start spending
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 5: the money. So it's another thing that makes no sense
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 5: to me at all. It's just, you know, Government 101.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 3: No doubt. And, you know, real quick here, Todd Zinser,
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 3: our citizen watchdog, has pointed out they've been doing drawdowns
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 3: of the railroad money, but they've parked it into an
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 3: interest-bearing account, and there's apparently not really a clear idea
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 3: of what that interest that's being generated, where that's going,
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 3: which when you're talking millions and millions of dollars, it
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 3: could be a sizable amount of interest. Are they obligated
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 3: to spend that on existing infrastructure, or is that just
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 3: another source of funding for some other bizarre project that
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 3: hasn't been built yet?
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 5: Well, that's our concern. Todd's doing a phenomenal job digging
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 5: into this. I mean, that guy is enormously talented, and
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 5: we're lucky to have him in the city because he's
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 5: got the skill set to really dig into this. But
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you, that's the issue is that there's a
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 5: transparency problem here. It's very clear to me, and this
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 5: is one of the reasons I was so concerned about
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 5: the railroad sale, not that there wasn't a business case
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 5: to sell it. There certainly was. My concern was just
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 5: all of the lobbyists and other players and political people
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 5: who would see that pot of money and think, how
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 5: can we creatively lawyer our way and define our way
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 5: into spending some of these proceeds on other things? And
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 5: that's when you see a big pot of money like
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 5: that that really hasn't been publicly accounted for that's generating
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 5: interest at a pretty good clip, given where things are
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 5: right now. Um, and the economy, I mean, it's a
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 5: concern because we don't, because again, I think most people,
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 5: when they voted for that, this was sold explicitly as,
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 5: as a fund that will be used to fix our
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 5: roads and the roads aren't being fixed.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 3: No doubt about it. Mark Jeffries wants to make the
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 3: case for being Cincinnati's next mayor. Here's my to-do list
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 3: from Steve Gooden, our guest this morning. Thank you for, uh,
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 3: for joining the program this morning and talking about listeners
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 3: to me and great job on the op-ed piece. And
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 3: of course, outstanding explanation of your thoughts and comments this morning.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 3: Good having you on, Steve. I hope we get to
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 3: do it again real soon.
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 5: Anytime. You take care, Brian.
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 3: You too. PorterWright.com is where you find Steve and the crew.