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HIM Hype Scoreboard · Presented by Speaking Human

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  Speaker 1: In a world where movies rely on marketing more than
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  Speaker 1: ever to connect with audiences, one podcast aims to make
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  Speaker 1: sense of it all. This is movies and marketing. Next
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  Speaker 1: Saturday Nights, where's sending you back.
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  Speaker 2: To the future?
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, make my day, Corbut now you're crazy, Dutch bastard.
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  Speaker 2: What we've got here is failure.
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  Speaker 3: You mill gate, take them a ground where as fresh
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  Speaker 3: all of pow for we might be as well with them.
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  Speaker 2: I am an f B I.
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  Speaker 1: Agent, Shad are you hyped?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how could I not be hyped? The game
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  Speaker 2: coming up here? Scoreboard's ready for us, it's waiting. Got
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  Speaker 2: this new thing going on we've never tried before mm hmmm,
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  Speaker 2: which we always love a new novelty we do.
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  Speaker 1: We like to try stuff, then decide that we didn't
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  Speaker 1: like it, and we never do it again. Or you know,
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  Speaker 1: once in a great great while we go, this is
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  Speaker 1: cream cheese right here.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna use this every time. Actually, what usually happens
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  Speaker 2: is we say, while that was really good, we definitely
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  Speaker 2: got to do that again, and then we never do
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  Speaker 2: it again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because we forget. And that's mainly because you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're older, we're losing some of our faculties, our mental faculties.
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  Speaker 1: We're forgetting things. We forget the good things and the bad.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a good thing too, and.
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  Speaker 2: We just move on, you know, we move on to
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  Speaker 2: the next thing. That's the way it goes.
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  Speaker 1: It is. So today we're talking about the movie Him.
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  Speaker 1: There's no surprise there because you know you obviously clicked
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast, right, dear listener. So I have a
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  Speaker 1: little trivia to get us started, as we've been doing
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  Speaker 1: the whole year. We've been doing trivia, right, So shad,
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  Speaker 1: I think this is gonna go in line with the
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  Speaker 1: idea of the movie that we're talking about, Okay, because
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  Speaker 1: we know Him is about football, right, seems like it
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  Speaker 1: from what we know, Yeah, from what we know. So
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  Speaker 1: the question I have for you is, do you know?
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  Speaker 1: I know you know the answer to this? Do you
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  Speaker 1: know which NFL quarterback once starred in a full length
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  Speaker 1: feature film and was featured in major promotional campaign for
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  Speaker 1: the movie? You know which quarterback? And do you know
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  Speaker 1: which movie?
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  Speaker 2: Was he the star of the movie all by himself
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  Speaker 2: or was he just like you know, small part in
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  Speaker 2: the movie.
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  Speaker 1: He was a small part.
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  Speaker 2: The one that comes to mind MM hmm, Brett Farv
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  Speaker 2: something about Mary?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what you're thinking? Yes, that is absolutely you
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  Speaker 1: got it. No multiple choice on this, so.
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  Speaker 2: No multiple choice. I'm you didn't even have any multiple
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  Speaker 2: choice prepared.
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  Speaker 1: No, and first attempt you got it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it came a flashed right in my brain.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's other movies where quarterbacks have showed up,
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  Speaker 2: like The Longest Yard, there has to be a quarterback
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  Speaker 2: pops up in there, But that's just the one that
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  Speaker 2: came into my head. Very memorable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, for those who don't remember, all the way
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  Speaker 1: back to nineteen ninety eight, Brett Farv was featured in
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  Speaker 1: that movie. He wasn't the lead, but he was in
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  Speaker 1: the promotional materials and he played Cameron Diaz's love interest
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  Speaker 1: who doesn't show up till kind of the end of
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  Speaker 1: the movie because Ben Stiller sort of finds him and
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  Speaker 1: reconnects them. Right. Interesting fact. I figured you'd get this
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  Speaker 1: right away, But an interesting fact that I found out
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  Speaker 1: was Brett Favre was not the first choice for this movie.
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  Speaker 1: The directors, Peter and Bob Fairley, initially wanted Drew Bledsoe.
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  Speaker 1: So if you know who Drew Bledsoe is if you're
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  Speaker 1: listening to this episode, you probably know football, and you
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  Speaker 1: probably will get that. But he was dealing with some
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  Speaker 1: media attention. Drew Bledsoe was from a recent mashpit incident
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  Speaker 1: and declined. The part was then offered to Steve Young,
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  Speaker 1: who turned it down because of the movie's R rated nature.
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  Speaker 1: He was concerned because I guess he thought that his
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  Speaker 1: young Mormon fans wouldn't appreciate that seeing him in an
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  Speaker 1: R rated movie. So weird, right, And so Brett Farve
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  Speaker 1: got the role.
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  Speaker 2: Do we know any more about this wash pit incident?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: I want to look it up, but I didn't do
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  Speaker 1: it for the episode, just because I thought I was
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  Speaker 1: getting a little into the weeds. Probably if we talked about.
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  Speaker 2: It, probably not. But yeah, it does make me curious.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, what went on there? The nineties? You know,
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  Speaker 2: wash pit incidents were dime a dozen?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you know. So, Yeah, NFL quarterback, real life NFL
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  Speaker 1: quarterback in a movie.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great question. Something about Mary very memorable theat
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  Speaker 2: metrical experience that movie when it came out, just played
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  Speaker 2: the crowd going crazy with laughter, love them. He ate
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  Speaker 2: it up with a spoon.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, had a lot of shocking moments. It had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on in that where you just
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  Speaker 1: had never seen anything like it at that point.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good lead. I like that question because
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  Speaker 2: it talks about you know, football and the movies, which
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  Speaker 2: is what we're getting at today with the movie Him.
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  Speaker 1: There are a lot of people saying you could be
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  Speaker 1: the next great quarterback. I can already see a name
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  Speaker 1: cam running down a tonne of the crowd chan his name.
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  Speaker 1: I hear you've been invited to train with legend Isaiah
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  Speaker 1: White himself.
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  Speaker 2: Here to a library.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be the Goat.
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  Speaker 2: Getting a US theatrical release on September nineteenth, twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: The official release that's Friday. We all know these movies
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  Speaker 2: start on Thursday, which is today the day we're recording,
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  Speaker 2: So this movie is real fresh coming out this weekend
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  Speaker 2: as of this recording. Him Capital Letters Him is the
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  Speaker 2: tale of a young athlete who descends into a world
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  Speaker 2: of terror when he's invited to train with a legendary
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  Speaker 2: champion whose charisma curdles into something darker. Great use of
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  Speaker 2: the word curdles. The sports horror hybrid comes from a
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  Speaker 2: script originally titled Goat also in all caps, you know,
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  Speaker 2: greatest of All Time. That script made the Blacklist of
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  Speaker 2: Best Unproduced Scripts in twenty twenty two, the same year
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  Speaker 2: it was acquired by Jordan Peel's Monkey Paw Productions under
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  Speaker 2: a deal with Universal Pictures went into production. The movie
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  Speaker 2: We Got Now stars Marlon wains Tyreek Withers, who was
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  Speaker 2: in the recent I Know What You Did Last Summer remake,
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  Speaker 2: and Julia Fox and comes with a reported budget of
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven million dollars. Him is pretty interesting in that
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  Speaker 2: it blends genres in a way I don't quite remember
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  Speaker 2: another movie doing so. We thought this would be a
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  Speaker 2: good movie to take a look at the marketing and
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  Speaker 2: talk about, which is what we're going to do today.
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  Speaker 2: But we're going to do it, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 2: in an interesting way. Do you want to tell the
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  Speaker 2: people out there how we're going to do this?
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  Speaker 1: Patrick, This is this is fun. We're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about each of the marketing efforts, if
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  Speaker 1: you will, aspects of him, and we're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about it, and then we'll give each
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  Speaker 1: one a score. Fumble equals bad, clearly right, you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to do that. A field goal is you know
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  Speaker 1: that was okay, it was decent.
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  Speaker 2: You got something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then a touchdown clearly clearly is good or great. Right,
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  Speaker 1: it's a good thing for the team. Or maybe we
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  Speaker 1: say awesome, that was awesome. Yeah you scored so fumble,
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  Speaker 1: field goal, touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty simple concept. We're going to see who gets
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  Speaker 2: on the scoreboard, you know, with each of these marketing efforts,
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  Speaker 2: how they did. So let's start with the teaser trailer
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  Speaker 2: for him. What did you think of this one?
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  Speaker 1: I liked the teaser trailer. I thought they did a
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  Speaker 1: good job. It locked in a little over a minute.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was like a minute, minute and a
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  Speaker 1: half maybe, and it does a pretty good job of
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  Speaker 1: sort of setting it up. It's like an alternate reality,
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  Speaker 1: you know, or like a like a split personality, like
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  Speaker 1: you see it. It seems normal, but then they flip
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  Speaker 1: the script towards the end of that or the second
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  Speaker 1: half of whatever it is we're on this thing with
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  Speaker 1: flip the script, by the way, but you know they do,
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  Speaker 1: and then it kind of you start to see that
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  Speaker 1: there's something just not right about whatever's going on. Then
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  Speaker 1: it moves into that horror territory. So the teaser trailer
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  Speaker 1: does that pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: So what are you giving it? Which you're you know ranking,
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  Speaker 2: is it fumble, feel goal or touchdown?
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  Speaker 1: I think getting the vibe of the movie across, it's
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna agree with it. It was a touchdown
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  Speaker 2: for me too. What I liked about it is it
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  Speaker 2: kind of starts off like a Nike commercial.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's very much like that kind of sports imagery.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you're seeing guys working hard doing these different workouts.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, okay, this is very traditional in the imagery,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that kind of stuff you're seeing in the
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  Speaker 2: way it's cut, and then at about the midway point,
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  Speaker 2: it kind of goes to hell, you know, and then
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  Speaker 2: you really see that split into Okay, now we're jumping
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  Speaker 2: into horror, and then we get this whole other thing
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  Speaker 2: and we're like, oh, okay, this is something different. So
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  Speaker 2: I like how they pulled that off, especially within you know.
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  Speaker 1: One minute. That's really the difficult part. And the teaser trailers,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean they're a little probably longer than
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  Speaker 1: like I remember, teaser trailers used to be like fifteen
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  Speaker 1: to thirty seconds, and there's just no way you could
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  Speaker 1: tell that whole story in that or that arc in
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  Speaker 1: this such a short amount of time. It's tight editing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so double touchdown for the teaser trailer. Moving on
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  Speaker 2: to the actual trailer. Yeah, what do you think of
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  Speaker 2: this one? Now we're going full trailer this one?
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  Speaker 1: You know it's it's now you're you're getting about another
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  Speaker 1: forty five seconds, right, So it's two thirty ish, tells
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more of the story. I'll be honest,
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  Speaker 1: I think I like the teaser a little bit better
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  Speaker 1: in that it doesn't tell as much, like it gives
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  Speaker 1: you just enough to like pique your interest. What's your whistle?
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  Speaker 1: The full trailer, I think is it might be just
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  Speaker 1: a little too much, but it's still good. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna say it's bad. It's just I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: saw too much of the movie I want I wanted
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more surprise from it, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean?
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  Speaker 2: As happens with it with a trailer sometimes where you're like,
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  Speaker 2: that's a little much. I feel like I might have
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  Speaker 2: seen too many of the good parts. Maybe, Yeah, back
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  Speaker 2: it out just a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: And that's sad to say when you see it like
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  Speaker 1: two minutes and thirty seconds should not be all the
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  Speaker 1: good parts of the movie right out.
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  Speaker 2: Of a well, when you're seeing like fast clips, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and you're not seeing the whole scene, but you might
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  Speaker 2: be saying, like a piece of each of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would still give it a touchdown, but it
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  Speaker 1: might be sort of like just a touchdown without the
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  Speaker 1: extra point.
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  Speaker 2: Oh there you go. I was thinking they just like
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  Speaker 2: kind of barely get over the line, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. Yeah, Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at too.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, it's still a touchdown. It's pretty intriguing.
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  Speaker 2: This is actually where the genesis of this episode in
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  Speaker 2: some way was you kind of sharing this being like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you see this trailer and I had to check it out,
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  Speaker 2: and it is It's pretty good when you watch it.
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  Speaker 2: When you watch it in comparison with the teaser, I
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  Speaker 2: do think the teaser is a little bit better, but
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  Speaker 2: this one does give you some more It sets things
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  Speaker 2: up a little bit more and you get definitely get
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  Speaker 2: more of the like wild imagery. I also like the
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  Speaker 2: use of Tupac in here. They do kind of like
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  Speaker 2: a we talked about this remixes where you're kind of
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  Speaker 2: like using the music and just remixing it a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: which has become a common trailer thing. So they do
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  Speaker 2: that pretty well in here. But you get a lot
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  Speaker 2: of this imagery, you know, these different things. Some of
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  Speaker 2: it's like football related in Blood. And then you start
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  Speaker 2: to see like I don't know if you'd call them
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  Speaker 2: creatures or hallucinations or what you want to call these
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  Speaker 2: apparitions that you're seeing. You know, you get these kind
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  Speaker 2: of flashes of all these different things that make you
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  Speaker 2: kind of go, what the hell is actually going on here? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so that makes it pretty pretty intriguing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really curious because, like, here's a great comparison. In
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  Speaker 1: my mind, I think it reminds me a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the feeling I got from the movie Blink.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It does have that same kind of vibe. It seems
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  Speaker 1: like like there's a mind altering drug feeling to it,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like something's going on,
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  Speaker 1: there's hallucinations to your point, or something is happening there.
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  Speaker 1: What's real what's not real?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 1: And I think those psychological sort of horror thrillers are
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  Speaker 1: really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Blink's a movie I really like, but I like the
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  Speaker 2: comparison you're making because Blink's won also where I had
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  Speaker 2: the same feeling I have with this. I get the
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  Speaker 2: setup mm hmm, and then I'm like, how are they
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  Speaker 2: going to fill out the whole I have no idea
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  Speaker 2: how they're going to fill out the whole movie with this, though,
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  Speaker 2: you know where this where's this going to go beyond
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  Speaker 2: this initial twenty minutes that I get?
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  Speaker 1: And that's where I'm kind of excited, because, like Blink,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they set it up, but then they also
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  Speaker 1: it was kind of twisty and turny and it was interesting, right,
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  Speaker 1: The whole thing kind of was interesting in the end.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, oh, I see, okay, they had this
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  Speaker 1: mysterious element to it, and I think this is what
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  Speaker 1: they do really well, right in a trailer like this,
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  Speaker 1: they set it up, you kind of see that it's
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  Speaker 1: there's something not right, but there's a mystery there that
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  Speaker 1: gets you intrigued enough to go see it in the theater.
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  Speaker 2: So touchdowns all around so far on the trailers.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So we've got posters and artwork, which we've
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  Speaker 1: got a series of them. You see them on the
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  Speaker 1: show notes page of the podcast episode. There's a few
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  Speaker 1: of them there and you could see there's this element
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  Speaker 1: where two of them anyway have Marlon Wayans, and one
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  Speaker 1: of them, he's standing over top of the shoulders of.
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  Speaker 2: What's the young guy's name, Tyreek Withers.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, standing over his shoulders and it's got his hands
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  Speaker 1: on his shoulders and hit something's going on with it.
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  Speaker 1: So he's got all of like his super Bowl rings
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  Speaker 1: or whatever those rings are. I'm assuming it's super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: But do they call it that in the movie, because
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  Speaker 1: can they? I don't know if the NFL would could
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  Speaker 1: doone this movie, I don't know. It might just be
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  Speaker 1: like loosely implying.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it is, might be like the National Football Group.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But he's got these rings on his fingers,
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  Speaker 1: but his fingers are kind of like when you take
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  Speaker 1: a closer look, they're kind of mangled, deformed type of thing.
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  Speaker 1: And the same thing with the second poster, and he's
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  Speaker 1: got again these rings on his fingers, and his fingers
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  Speaker 1: are like mangled. And never Meet your Heroes is the
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  Speaker 1: title in one of them. The other one Greatness demands Sacrifice,
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  Speaker 1: which is like the tagline. The third is that justin
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  Speaker 1: Tipping or no, not just in tipping Tyreek Withers, Tyreek Whithers.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember his name. He's standing there sort of
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  Speaker 1: like with two footballs. There's like clouds and faceless cheerleaders
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  Speaker 1: which are creepy in the background. In the clouds in
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  Speaker 1: the background, it kind of looks like his arms, like
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  Speaker 1: there's wings with the clouds, kind of like a Jesus pose. Right,
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  Speaker 1: so very religious. It's not even undertones overtones religious overtones.
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  Speaker 1: Would you agree with that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that one. I don't know is it everywhere? No,
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  Speaker 2: well maybe, I guess there's some imagery in the trailers
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  Speaker 2: and stuff like that too. I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 2: in the other posters as much.
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  Speaker 1: But well, I mean there's no get around. I mean
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  Speaker 1: the titles everywhere and him, I think that's religious overtone there.
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  Speaker 1: I think the posters work really well. I like the
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  Speaker 1: composition of the posters. I like that they have they
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  Speaker 1: have like a unique simplicity to them, even though there's
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're character driven. They're like about these two characters.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly they're weird though, like they're definitely weird and ominous.
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  Speaker 1: Like there's I mean, it's a horror movie, a psychological
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  Speaker 1: horror movie or something of the sort. I struggle with
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  Speaker 1: this one a little bit, but I would probably say
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  Speaker 1: I'd give this a touchdown in in terms of like
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  Speaker 1: poster artwork. You know, I don't know what it's doing
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  Speaker 1: for the movie, but I think that they're well executed.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think I think I come in a
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  Speaker 2: little under you. I'm a field goal. Yeah, there are
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  Speaker 2: some interesting things here. There's some easter eggs like that
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned that I really like, you know, like the
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  Speaker 2: fingers and the faceless cheerleaders, these things like you have
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  Speaker 2: to like really look at them to notice in some respect, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they're not right there, They're not super overt.
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  Speaker 2: But I also think to like the glance in the
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  Speaker 2: lobby at this, you know, the poster, like I think
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  Speaker 2: of the first one, which is probablyably the main one,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: with his hands on his shoulders and the rings. I'm like,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: are people gonna get what this movie is from like
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: looking at that? Mm hmm, you know, will they know
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: it's like this sports horror hybrid. I don't know. I
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: don't know what people will like take from that. I
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: don't know if it gives you that much of a
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: sense of the movie. My favorite one is probably Tyreek Withers,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: the main character in that Jesus pose. That one I
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: think is yeah, the most interesting, but I don't know
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: if it tells you, Like I just don't know if
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: the overall package is marketing wise, you know, gonna grab
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: people enough.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: You're right if you see that in the uh in
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: the theater. I think the one, the last one is
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: probably my favorite two just because of that. But the
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: original one where he's standing and grasping his shoulders was
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: the one I saw, which led me to the trailer,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: which then I sent to you because I was like
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Marlon Wayns in a movie, Like I was more drawn
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: to the fact that I was like, that's Marlon Wayn's right,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Like outside of some shows and stuff like that, I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: haven't seen him in anything lately. So and then it
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: turned out to be like a great trailer, right, and
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: then we started talking about it, so it.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Got you and there is something about it that makes
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: you want to take a closer look because you're like,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: there seems like there's more going on here than at
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: first glance.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And the tagline Greatness Demand Sacrifice is really good.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: So with the title, with the tagline, with the imagery.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: You get a sense it's like it's playing up your
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: what you expect to see versus what you're actually hearing
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: and seeing and reading. And you're like, this isn't following,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: It's not in line with what I'm expecting from a
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: football movie.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it isn't It isn't that Like the tagline
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: like kind of points out the like, Oh, I'm seeing
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: these odd things, then I see this tagline, then it
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: might click into place.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Right Yeah, Yeah, which brings us to the tagline.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is our next category.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: So what do you think of this? Tell me what
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you think.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: First, this is a total touchdown for me. The Greatness
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Demands sacrifice just totally works hits on the sports theme,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: but kind of alludes to the horror. I think this
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: like to go to another sport entirely knocks it out
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: of the park. You know. This is one of those
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: things you see and you're like, ah, they just got it.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: They know what kind of movie they are, and they
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: like found something that's like perfect, and you're like a
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: kind of jealous that they came up with something that's
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: that good.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Really, not even knowing the full premise of the movie,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you get it. So I think obviously, this one's a touchdown.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a double touchdown for us. Let's go to
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: another aspect. This is a big one here. We often
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: talk about this the title of the movie as both
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: you know, part of the art and part of the marketing.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: What do you think of him?
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of torn on this. The very first thing
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: that came to my mind was, this is very, very
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: in line with what you expect from a Jordan Peele movie.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: For whatever reason, you know, like us, all of his
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: movie titles seem like they follow this us.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very short, succinct to the point, there's no
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Killers of the Flower Moon, you know, like it's not
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: so you kind of go in thinking, oh, this is
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: going to be a movie that sort of turns things
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: around on you a little bit. Just going from the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: title itself though, like without any preconceived notions. I think
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: about how football and in sports like people will say,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm giving it up to Him, which is
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: him if you're awake and alive in this world. You know,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: people say that and they're referencing God right or the Lord,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the Lord right, and they always give thanks to him.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: So I'm thinking that's where that stems from. And so
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: there's this element to that. But does that tell you
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: what the movie is about. I can't say that it does,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: but you know that there's like something you can't just
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: put your finger on, and maybe that's the beauty of it.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's so hard to pin it down.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Like I like it. I like the title. But then
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: if you go, Okay, well this is the title, say
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: what the movie is m I mean, does it always
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: have to I don't know, you know what I mean.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's going to make total sense
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: when you see it, especially given the tagline. Right, you're
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: gonna go mmmm him yeah, yeah, yeah. So I want
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: to say this is like I went for a field
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: goal and then faked and then made a touchdown.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: This is an interesting one because I feel like, from
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: a you know, a movie artistic standpoint, maybe once I
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: even see it, I will think higher of it. But
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I could see there's something there that's like him, Like
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: you're talking about referring to the Lord but also referring
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: to him this this great football player, you know, So
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: there's like this parallel there that could be pretty interesting.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: But I just can't get away from my initial reaction,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: and when I think a lot of people's initial reactions
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: were probably i'd be like, this is a pretty generic,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: unmemorable title, you know, when you just kind of see
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: it off the cuff, not that it has to tell
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: you about the movie, but it has to kind of
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: grab you in some way, and him just doesn't really
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: do that. I think that's probably a fumble in that sense,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: maybe even a fumble where the other team grabs the
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: ball and scores, because I just don't know if this
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: is a kind of title that's gonna get people. I
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: don't know that Goat was a better title, but maybe
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I do think there's probably a better title that works
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: on dual levels, like the tagline does. I don't know
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: what that is, but I think I feel like there's
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: something out there that could have worked like that. This one,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I just feel like is too. It just doesn't have
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: anything that sinks. And and again I might see the
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: movie and be like, no, that's the absolute perfect title.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: It couldn't have been anything else when I see it
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: now ahead of seeing the movie, which is kind of
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: what's important. You know, one of those titles where you're like, oh,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: that just seems like something I want to see, you
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't have that feel. Yeah, And that's the
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: point I was kind of going for, is that you
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: know the title before seeing the movie versus after, it
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: can weigh the outcome of how you feel about it,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: or it can affect the outcome. So fumble.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna call it a fumble. So this is
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: we diverge here.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Okay. I get what you're saying. I really do, and
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. All right, Okay, So how
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: about the viral and the social.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: The viral and the social to me was mostly you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: from what I've seen. I obviously didn't go through every
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: post or everything they've ever done, but I checked it out.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: They're on Instagram, they're on Facebook, they're on x, they're
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: on TikTok. They've got their basic you know, movie site,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: find a showtime. So that's a feel goal to me.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Most of it it exists. I didn't see a lot
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: that blows me away. I thought their TikTok was pretty good.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: They had like some cool eye catching clips. Obviously, there's
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of visual imagery from this movie that like
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: grabs you, so to put that in like two to
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: four second clips and that can loop and stuff like that.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: That's pretty grabbing. So I think they've done that pretty well.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: They have some good stuff on there, but all in all,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I was like, I didn't see anything that I was like, Ooh,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: they're doing some really cool stuff on here.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing groundbreaking that I saw at all. Like
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the website, the social media. I mean like they're doing
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the things. They're there, they're in those spaces.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're checking the boxes.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: From my vantage point, i'd be like fumble field goal.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: But then I look at like, I think this movie's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: getting a lot of traction because of those channels, specifically
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: social channels. Because like we were talking about before we
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: hopped on to record, I mean, my son, people are
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: like going to see it tonight opening night. That's not
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: very common. And the audience that was going to see
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: it I thought was interesting. The front that he was
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: going with didn't seem like they were the ones who
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: would go see this movie, you know, if that makes
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: any sense. So there's something going on there that's attracting
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: younger audiences anyway, So.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe what they're doing is working. They've been doing a
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: lot of general ad spending. It seems like, I know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: they've been playing like a lot of commercials during NFL games,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: which is, you know, makes sense considering the the football
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: tie in this movie, and I think some you know,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: billboard and stuff like traditional what you would call advertising too.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'd give it a field goal, you know,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: even though in my personal opinion, I'm like, yeah, you know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: they didn't do anything like really cool or unique like
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Blair Witch.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We're always looking for something that we're like, oh,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: that's that's interesting, that's really that's really blown things up
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: or gone viral.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like weapons, Right, they're doing stuff like weird stuff
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: that people are like talking about, you know, that kind
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: of thing.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which kind of takes us to our next category,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: which is the online conversation the buzz. What sense do
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: you get to that? Where would you place that? At
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: this point as the movie's opening up, what.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I've been seeing the buzz is kind of like focused
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: on Jordan Peele's reputation, so I think a lot of
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: people are expecting him to, you know, follow a similar formula,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: and I think that some of the secrecy of it,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: which they've done a really good job of, has helped
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: with that right, like the mystery, we go back to
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the mystery of what the heck is going on in
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: this movie. I haven't seen any spoilers, which is really
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: good overall, though, I think there have been, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: some good buzz conversations that are happening about it, and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: they're mixed. You know, there are some people who are like,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: you know, given some critical takes on it and the
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: religious side of it, the like religious overtones. I think
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: that gets some positive and negative reviews, you know, because
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: there's always gonna be people who are like, it's blasphemy.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you would escape that with a
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: movie like this, because it seems like there's a big
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: part of that movie that is very heavy handed, so
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: to speak.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so where did you Where'd you land? What's your score?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I guess what are you putting on the scoreboard?
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: This one? I would say touchdown because I think this
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: is what caused you know, this other element which I
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: was talking about before with with the social and stuff,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: where like younger audiences, kids who are in the nineteen
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one college range, are going to see it,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: you know, So there's there's some buzz, there's some conversations
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: happening there because of it, getting them in the seats,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: getting them in the seats.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned the Jordan Peel ness of this
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: whole thing. We should have brought this up. I'm surprised
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: we didn't. With the trailers and the movie posters, this is,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: you know, being marketed and sold essentially like a Jordan
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Peel movie. This is not. You know, Jordan Peel didn't
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: write or direct this movie, but they're very much selling
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: it like his name first, like he did. Yeah, produced
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: by Jordan Peele's at the top of the poster, you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: it's his name is big in all the trailers. You're
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: gonna see it everywhere, and you're gonna people are gonna think, oh,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: this is Jordan Peele's newest movie. Yeah.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I did too. When I said it to you, I
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is Jordan Peele cause I didn't
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: even read the fine print. You know, he's a producer
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: on the movie. Yeah, yeah, not the director, not the writer.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like you know, it's in this as
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: you mentioned, in the style of his movie. It's named
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: in the style of his movies.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and his.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Name's up at the top there's no reason you wouldn't
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: think that, and I think they want you to think that.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: But a producer, right, I mean, they have a lot
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: of influence on a movie and his name being tied
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to it. They know that he's got a level of cred.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you use that to your advantage? I guess
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: he believes in the project enough.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's from his production company. You know,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: he's out there on the marketing. He's like promoting this movie,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: so you see him out there. He is definitely involved
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: in it, probably more than most producers are in movies.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I you know, when it comes to the online conversation,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm a little more lukewarm. I see it as
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: more like a field goal, maybe even verging on a
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: fumble in some ways. I look at some of like
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: the top reddit threads in there, A lot of them
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: are along the lines of is anyone excited for this movie?
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: That causes me some concern? You know, Reading the reddit
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: room a little bit, I'm like, do I have some
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: should I be worried a little bit? Here? It doesn't
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: seem like people are through the roof necessarily, So I'm
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: gonna call this one a field goal. But yeah, I
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: have some trepidation.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen some like people have wondered how you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the mainstream audiences, especially football fans, will receive the film's
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: critique of the beloved sport because there's all those there's
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: all those elements to it, right, there's the religious, there's
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: the the actual football critique. Because you could see the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: suffering and the sacrifice and like in a very real,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: bloody gory way. It seems like so mm hmm. Yeah,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to see how that plays out. But
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I you know, I do agree with you to some extent,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: especially if it's Reddit. If it's on Reddit, you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: someone said it, right, it's my new I'm coining that phrase.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. It's good. Do you have any other
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: any other things you want to talk about? Pr merch
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: product times. I don't really have any others. I don't
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: know if you have any.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Here's something that I came across today, Okay, an email
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: from Regal Crown Club, Regal Cinemas. Yeah, they sent you know,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the ritual begins. I don't know if this is a
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: tie in, but is it a popcorn bucket?
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: No?
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: But they have something called juiced j U I c
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: ed juiced spiked lemonade that you can get apparently in
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the theater must be twenty one with valid ID. Please
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: drink responsibly. I think this is kind of interesting. In
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: the email, you know, it's him juice spike lemonade. There's
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: like a glass with ice in it and something else.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I can't really tell, but it looks like there's a
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: syringe with like red blood yeah, yeah, or something football's
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: got blood coming down it and juice is in all red.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Kind of like that hymn font interesting product tie in
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: or whatever that is. I don't spiked lemonade kind of cool.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I like that they're doing something different. It's not a
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: popcorn bucket.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all for any of that stuff. I love
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the lobby tie in merch promo materials. Like even just
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: walking up to see a movie and seeing that other
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: stuff for other movies gets me hyped up.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when it's unique. Yeah you know what I mean, Like, oh,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen them try that yet. Just do a
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: little do a little something different. I think people would
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: dig that.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, I like that. I'll give that
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: a touchdown.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the only other thing I saw recently,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and I mean it's something outside of like the norm.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: So all in all, you know, you look at the scoreboard,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I think him did pretty well a mixed a mixed
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: bag in some ways, but I think it's generally on
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: the positive.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it could quickly turn or maybe this is like
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: a new cult classic that everybody's talking about after they
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: see it, they're like, man, that was great. And you
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: don't know because, like I said, since we're recording this
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: on the eve of Him's release, how about we talk
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit about what we predict this is going
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: to do at the box office. We've done this before.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: We don't have any clue at this point. Will it
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: be a w or now? Will it win or lose?
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: And will it be uh something that people talk about
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: in favorable light about Jordan Peele and Monkey Paul or
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: will they be like, oh that was the worst.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: It's a good question. So this we like to do
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: from time to time, or you know, predict the domestic,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: predict the international box office. See who gets closer. Of course,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: price is right rules.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: You can't go over right right right, right, right right right.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I'll head to first my domestic This is gonna be
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: lower than years. I don't know, but I'm going thirty two.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Million, oh okay, total like domestic.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, total domestic. I think it's going to open at
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: like fourteen, and I think it's gonna do okay, but
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be like a huge runaway.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I think it's just gonna do average. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna get one the football people, and I think
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  Speaker 2: the non football people might be turned off by the football.
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  Speaker 1: M okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it's gonna be just kind of a
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  Speaker 2: mediocre you know, it's going to like make mostly its
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  Speaker 2: money back a little bit, but that's about it.
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  Speaker 3: So what about are we doing international? What do you
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: think any Yeah, we'll do international too. And then I
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: see international and I'm like, well, does anybody care about
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  Speaker 3: American football internationally? So I'm going to go I'll go
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: fifty million there.
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  Speaker 2: So thirty two and fifty okay, Yeah, that's uh yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: that's is that significantly lower than yours.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: It's it's significantly lower. So what is that total?
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Well, thirty two domestic, fifty million is the total international
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  Speaker 2: which includes the domestic.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Oh that includes domestic.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's only going to make eighteen
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  Speaker 2: million international. Okay, you're thinking this is wild, you think
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: it's way you must think that's way too low because
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: you're asking questions.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: No, I think you're I think you're well. Yeah, So
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: here's my take is that I think that domestic it's
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: probably going to do about one hundred million.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa, Okay, that's much higher.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so my domestic is way higher. In your international,
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  Speaker 1: I'll say it's going to probably do like forty, So
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: i'd say total why to be like one forty?
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, very different takes.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, because I think if you're just even
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: looking historically, if it goes in line with Candy Man,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: you're going to be dead on Because Candy Man, which
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: was just Monkey Paul producing that one, did sixty two
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  Speaker 1: domestic and sixteen international, so total seventy seven. So you're
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: like right there, you know what I mean. But if
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you go with any of the other movies that Jordan
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: now did have a big part in, those ones did
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: considerably more. I could see what you're saying. Though. The
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: argument is could it appealed to these audiences, which might
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: it might alienate them?
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could split. We have different takes here. I'm
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: kind of more of a I'm closer to a fumble,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: you're closer to a touchdown.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say it's probably going to be at least
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: a field goal. But I don't know. We'll see Marlon
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: wains like if this thing. I think at the very
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: least he might see some awards for this role.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, that would be interesting.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to see that. Actually, I mean,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: being from the time period when Marlon ways sort of
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: came through as a comedic actor, you know, and stuff
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: like I would I would really like to see him
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: get awards for like a pretty dramatic role. I think
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: that would be pretty cool. I think that would set
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: it up too, to have some legs beyond the box office.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I'd like to see that. I'm interested in the movie
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: in general. I definitely it's on my want to see list.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Will I get to in the theater? I don't know.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Well, hopefully you got a little bit out of this.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're interested in seeing it. Let us know what
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you think feedback at Speaking human dot com. We'd love
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: to hear if you're planning on seeing Marlon Wayns in
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: a critical critical role. I don't.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's that career changing, potential Oscar winning.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah performance, Oh yeah, potential Oscar winning. I'm gonna nominate
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: him based on his trailer Best Trailer Performance by a
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Lead Actor Lead Supporting Actor. I don't know that would
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: actually be great. Could we do that the Trailer Awards,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: the Trailer Awards, Yeah, we should.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: That's not a bad idea. Let's save that for a
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: moment at the end of the year.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think that's gonna be a that's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a winner winner.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: He could at least win Best Actor with mangled Fingers
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: on a poster. But that wouldn't be a trailer award.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: No, it would be the poster based on a trailer award.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Well, we hope you like this episode of MoMA. That's it,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: and that's all for movies and marketing until next time.
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  Speaker 1: Let's fade to black. I would be back.
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  Speaker 3: He's coming.
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  Speaker 1: I hide high High