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Celebrating Canada with Iconic TV Jingles · Music Explored Podcast

• 0:46
  Short.
• 0:46
  So
• 0:47
  when,
• 0:47
  when
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  did
• 0:47
  we
• 0:47
  meet?
• 0:48
  We
• 0:48
  met
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  about
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  a
• 0:48
  month,
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  we'll
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  say
• 0:49
  about
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  within
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  the
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  last
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  two
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  months,
• 0:52
  I
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  think.
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  I
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  was
• 0:53
  at
• 0:53
  Shangri
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  La
• 0:53
  coming
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  in
• 0:54
  as
• 0:55
  you
• 0:55
  were
• 0:55
  exiting.
• 0:56
  That's
• 0:56
  right.
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  And
• 0:56
  we
• 0:56
  had
• 0:57
  a
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  really
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  quick
• 0:57
  conversation
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  and
• 0:58
  introduction.
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  And
• 1:00
  in
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  that,
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  let's
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  say,
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  five
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  minute
• 1:01
  conversation,
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  I
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  was
• 1:02
  like,
• 1:03
  huh,
• 1:03
  what
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  an
• 1:04
  interesting
• 1:05
  gentleman.
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  And
• 1:06
  from
• 1:06
  there
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  I
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  just
• 1:07
  asked
• 1:07
  you,
• 1:07
  hey,
• 1:08
  I
• 1:08
  think
• 1:08
  we
• 1:08
  should
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  do
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  a
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  podcast.
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  I
• 1:10
  don't
• 1:10
  know
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  if
• 1:10
  anyone's
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  ever
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  approached
• 1:11
  you
• 1:11
  that
• 1:11
  way
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  and
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  just
• 1:12
  said,
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  hey,
• 1:13
  man,
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  you
• 1:13
  seem
• 1:13
  interesting,
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  let's
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  do
• 1:14
  a
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  podcast.
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  But
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  yeah,
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  here
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  we
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  are.
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  Well,
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  I
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  do
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  appreciate
• 1:19
  that.
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  And
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  yes,
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  it
• 1:20
  has
• 1:21
  happened.
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  I
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  generally
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  don't
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  agree
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  to
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  it.
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  I've
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  done
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  radio
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  interviews
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  and
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  TV
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  things
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  and
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  they've
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  done
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  special
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  sort
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  of
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  documentaries
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  on
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  me
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  for
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  radio
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  and
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  TV
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  Canada
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  and
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  the
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  States.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  guess,
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  I
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  guess
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  it's
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  happened.
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  And
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  very,
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  I
• 1:45
  guess
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  all
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  the
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  main
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  newspapers
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  have
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  written
• 1:47
  stories.
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  It
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  seems
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  to
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  recycle
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  the
• 1:49
  idea
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  that
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  I'm
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  a
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  dual
• 1:50
  personality,
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  apparently.
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  It's
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  interesting
• 1:54
  to
• 1:54
  people,
• 1:54
  they
• 1:54
  discover
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  that
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  every
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  few
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  years
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  and
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  I'm
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  a
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  new
• 1:58
  commodity.
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  Here
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  I
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  am
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  again.
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  So
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  you
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  are
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  again.
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  You
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  know,
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  I,
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  but,
• 2:01
  you
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  know,
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  I
• 2:02
  don't,
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  I
• 2:02
  don't
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  like
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  being
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  totally
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  in
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  the
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  spotlight,
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  but
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  I
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  appreciate.
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  There
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  was
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  something
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  that
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  struck
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  me
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  about
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  you
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  in
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  that
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  few
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  minutes
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  also
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  that
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  I
• 2:09
  thought,
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  well,
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  these
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  guys
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  are
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  smart.
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  I,
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  do
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  this.
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  Interesting.
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  Well,
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  hashtag,
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  he
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  said
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  yes.
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  Tricked
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  him
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  again.
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  Tricked
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  him
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  again.
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  Got
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  him.
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  We
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  got
• 2:20
  nothing
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  to
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  say
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  here.
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  Yeah,
• 2:22
  well,
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  you
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  don't
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  know
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  that.
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  I
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  actually
• 2:24
  stuck
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  around.
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  I
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  didn't
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  really
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  leave.
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  I
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  listened
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  to
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  you
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  play.
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  Oh,
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  he
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  tricked
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  me.
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  Yeah,
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  well,
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  I
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  was
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  there
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  for
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  about
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  an
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  hour
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  after
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  that.
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  A
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  full
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  hour.
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  Wow.
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  I
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  did,
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  I
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  didn't,
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  I
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  wasn't
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  honestly
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  hearing
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  every
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  note.
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  Tunes.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  you
• 2:40
  guys
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  are
• 2:40
  great.
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  You
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  know,
• 2:41
  I
• 2:41
  was,
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  I
• 2:42
  ended
• 2:42
  up
• 2:42
  having
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  a
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  meeting
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  unexpectedly
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  with
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  management
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  there,
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  and
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  I
• 2:47
  just,
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  as
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  I
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  was
• 2:48
  staying,
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  I
• 2:48
  was
• 2:48
  listening
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  too.
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  So,
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  you
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  know,
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  it
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  was
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  good
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  music.
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  Gotcha.
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  Well,
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  that's,
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  I
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  appreciate
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  that.
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  That's,
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  that's
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  a
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  compliment
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  coming
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  from
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  like
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  a
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  guy
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  with
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  your
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  experience.
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  So,
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  yeah,
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  thank
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  you.
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  Well,
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  you
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  fooled
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  me.
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  You
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  really
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  did.
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  I
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  thought
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  I
• 3:01
  saw
• 3:01
  you
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  leave.
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  I
• 3:02
  thought
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  I
• 3:02
  saw
• 3:02
  you
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  exit
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  the
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  building.
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  I,
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  I,
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  I
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  did.
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  And
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  then
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  I
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  decided
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  I
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  remembered
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  something.
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  I
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  never
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  left
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  anyway,
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  so.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Well,
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  there's
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  the
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  story
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  of
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  our,
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  our
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  relationship
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  thus
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  far.
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  That's
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  it.
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  Nice.
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  Nice
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  knowing
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  you
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  guys.
• 3:19
  I
• 3:19
  met
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  Mic
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  Drop.
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  So
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  you
• 3:23
  heard
• 3:23
  me
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  play.
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  I
• 3:23
  didn't
• 3:23
  have,
• 3:23
  I
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  haven't
• 3:24
  had
• 3:24
  a
• 3:24
  chance
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  to
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  hear
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  you
• 3:25
  play
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  in
• 3:25
  person
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  yet,
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  so
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  I
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  Look
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  forward
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  to
• 3:27
  that.
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  I
• 3:28
  don't
• 3:28
  know.
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  I'm
• 3:29
  at
• 3:29
  a
• 3:30
  piano
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  here.
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  Yeah,
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  right
• 3:33
  on
• 3:34
  cue.
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  I
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  am
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  on
• 3:35
  a
• 3:35
  piano.
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  Yeah.
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  Because
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  I
• 3:36
  figure
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  you
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  can
• 3:37
  ask
• 3:37
  me.
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  I
• 3:38
  love
• 3:39
  that.
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  Okay.
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  Anyway.
• 3:44
  That's
• 3:44
  amazing.
• 3:45
  Well,
• 3:45
  we'll
• 3:45
  get
• 3:45
  back
• 3:46
  to
• 3:46
  that.
• 3:46
  Screw
• 3:47
  talking.
• 3:47
  Let's
• 3:47
  do
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  this.
• 3:50
  Let's
• 3:50
  play
• 3:50
  Name
• 3:50
  that
• 3:51
  Tune
• 3:51
  or
• 3:51
  something.
• 3:52
  No.
• 3:52
  So
• 3:52
  go
• 3:53
  ahead,
• 3:53
  stump
• 3:54
  the
• 3:54
  band.
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  Right.
• 3:55
  Right
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  in
• 3:56
  our,
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  I
• 3:57
  guess
• 3:58
  Google
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  deep
• 3:59
  diving.
• 3:59
  Thank
• 4:00
  you,
• 4:00
  Google,
• 4:00
  for
• 4:00
  all
• 4:00
  the
• 4:00
  information
• 4:01
  that
• 4:01
  you
• 4:01
  provide
• 4:01
  to
• 4:02
  us.
• 4:03
  We've
• 4:03
  come
• 4:03
  up
• 4:04
  with
• 4:04
  some
• 4:04
  really
• 4:04
  cool
• 4:04
  things.
• 4:04
  I
• 4:05
  don't
• 4:05
  even
• 4:05
  know
• 4:05
  where
• 4:05
  to
• 4:05
  start,
• 4:06
  but
• 4:06
  Drakey,
• 4:07
  what's
• 4:07
  your
• 4:07
  favorite
• 4:07
  jingle?
• 4:08
  If
• 4:08
  you're
• 4:08
  just
• 4:08
  like
• 4:09
  sing
• 4:09
  one
• 4:09
  right
• 4:09
  now.
• 4:10
  Oh,
• 4:10
  James,
• 4:11
  when
• 4:11
  I
• 4:12
  looked
• 4:12
  at
• 4:12
  the
• 4:12
  list
• 4:13
  of
• 4:13
  jingles
• 4:14
  and
• 4:14
  we
• 4:14
  should
• 4:14
  probably
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  break
• 4:15
  down
• 4:15
  some
• 4:16
  of
• 4:16
  the
• 4:16
  like
• 4:16
  iconic
• 4:17
  jingles
• 4:17
  that
• 4:17
  you've
• 4:18
  done.
• 4:18
  There
• 4:18
  was
• 4:19
  pizza.
• 4:19
  Pizza.
• 4:20
  Correct.
• 4:20
  9,
• 4:21
  6,
• 4:21
  7,
• 4:21
  11,
• 4:22
  11.
• 4:22
  I
• 4:22
  guess
• 4:23
  I'm
• 4:23
  allowed
• 4:23
  to
• 4:23
  do
• 4:23
  it.
• 4:30
  That
• 4:30
  one
• 4:30
  might
• 4:30
  be
• 4:31
  the,
• 4:31
  the
• 4:31
  most
• 4:32
  iconic.
• 4:32
  Maybe
• 4:33
  not
• 4:33
  so
• 4:33
  much
• 4:33
  actually
• 4:33
  now
• 4:34
  that
• 4:34
  I
• 4:34
  think
• 4:34
  about
• 4:34
  it.
• 4:35
  Everyone
• 4:35
  Loves
• 4:36
  Marine
• 4:36
  Land
• 4:36
  to
• 4:36
  me
• 4:37
  was
• 4:37
  probably
• 4:37
  the
• 4:38
  biggest
• 4:38
  one
• 4:38
  as
• 4:38
  a
• 4:39
  child.
• 4:44
  Everyone
• 4:45
  Loves
• 4:46
  Me.
• 4:47
  Yeah,
• 4:48
  I
• 4:48
  made
• 4:48
  that
• 4:48
  one
• 4:48
  up.
• 4:49
  And
• 4:49
  you
• 4:49
  did
• 4:51
  before
• 4:51
  that.
• 4:51
  That
• 4:52
  was
• 4:52
  the
• 4:52
  version
• 4:52
  I
• 4:52
  did.
• 4:53
  Oh,
• 4:53
  wow.
• 4:54
  Oh,
• 4:54
  that's
• 4:55
  the
• 4:55
  one
• 4:55
  that's.
• 4:55
  That's
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  one
• 4:56
  that
• 4:56
  stuck.
• 4:57
  Wow.
• 4:57
  You
• 4:57
  said
• 4:58
  what?
• 4:58
  African
• 4:58
  lions.
• 4:59
  African
• 4:59
  Lion
• 4:59
  Safari.
• 5:00
  That's
• 5:00
  also
• 5:00
  you.
• 5:01
  Well,
• 5:02
  yeah.
• 5:02
  You.
• 5:02
  You
• 5:02
  do
• 5:03
  want
• 5:03
  me
• 5:03
  to
• 5:03
  play
• 5:03
  these?
• 5:03
  I
• 5:04
  guess
• 5:04
  since
• 5:04
  I'm
• 5:04
  already.
• 5:06
  I
• 5:06
  just
• 5:06
  want
• 5:06
  the
• 5:06
  world
• 5:06
  to
• 5:07
  know
• 5:07
  your
• 5:07
  greatness.
• 5:07
  African
• 5:08
  Lion
• 5:09
  Safari.
• 5:10
  That
• 5:10
  one
• 5:11
  and
• 5:12
  then
• 5:12
  this
• 5:12
  one.
• 5:13
  I
• 5:13
  think
• 5:13
  most
• 5:14
  middle
• 5:14
  aged
• 5:14
  people
• 5:14
  like
• 5:15
  myself
• 5:15
  know
• 5:15
  the
• 5:16
  most
• 5:16
  now
• 5:16
  is
• 5:17
  Sleep
• 5:17
  Country
• 5:17
  Canada.
• 5:19
  I,
• 5:20
  I
• 5:20
  have
• 5:20
  to
• 5:20
  say
• 5:21
  they're,
• 5:21
  they're
• 5:21
  doing
• 5:21
  a
• 5:22
  turbo
• 5:22
  botch
• 5:23
  version
• 5:23
  of
• 5:23
  it
• 5:23
  with
• 5:24
  some
• 5:24
  operetta
• 5:25
  kind
• 5:25
  of
• 5:25
  thing
• 5:25
  on
• 5:25
  the
• 5:25
  radio.
• 5:26
  No,
• 5:26
  I
• 5:26
  hate
• 5:26
  that.
• 5:26
  But
• 5:27
  if
• 5:27
  you
• 5:27
  listen
• 5:27
  very
• 5:28
  closely,
• 5:28
  there's
• 5:28
  this
• 5:29
  little
• 5:29
  thing
• 5:29
  underneath
• 5:30
  the
• 5:30
  hook
• 5:30
  at
• 5:30
  the
• 5:30
  end
• 5:30
  that
• 5:31
  they're
• 5:31
  still
• 5:31
  using.
• 5:33
  So
• 5:35
  the,
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  thing,
• 5:36
  the
• 5:37
  one
• 5:37
  I
• 5:37
  did
• 5:37
  which
• 5:37
  is
• 5:38
  don't
• 5:38
  come
• 5:38
  back
• 5:39
  to
• 5:39
  it.
• 5:39
  Why
• 5:39
  buy
• 5:40
  your
• 5:40
  mattress
• 5:41
  anywhere
• 5:41
  else.
• 5:42
  Yeah,
• 5:43
  yeah.
• 5:43
  And
• 5:43
  there's
• 5:43
  always
• 5:44
  that.
• 5:45
  Yeah,
• 5:46
  yeah.
• 5:46
  But
• 5:46
  you
• 5:46
  know
• 5:47
  what's
• 5:47
  funny?
• 5:48
  I
• 5:48
  wrote
• 5:48
  it.
• 5:49
  Ikea.
• 5:49
  C.
• 5:49
  That's
• 5:50
  C.
• 5:50
  But
• 5:51
  they'll,
• 5:51
  they'll
• 5:51
  just,
• 5:52
  they'll
• 5:52
  do
• 5:52
  something
• 5:52
  like
• 5:54
  sharp.
• 5:55
  Re.
• 5:55
  Flat.
• 5:56
  Not
• 5:57
  related
• 5:57
  at
• 5:57
  all.
• 5:57
  All
• 5:57
  of
• 5:58
  a
• 5:58
  sudden
• 5:58
  though.
• 5:59
  Add
• 5:59
  that
• 5:59
  tag
• 6:00
  on
• 6:00
  at
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  end.
• 6:02
  No.
• 6:02
  You
• 6:02
  know,
• 6:03
  and
• 6:03
  it
• 6:03
  sounds
• 6:03
  weird
• 6:04
  anyway.
• 6:05
  Sunwing.
• 6:05
  Ca.
• 6:06
  I,
• 6:08
  I
• 6:08
  did
• 6:08
  that
• 6:09
  and
• 6:09
  I
• 6:09
  do
• 6:10
  a
• 6:10
  lot
• 6:10
  of
• 6:10
  updates
• 6:11
  and
• 6:11
  that
• 6:11
  kind
• 6:12
  of
• 6:12
  bothers
• 6:12
  me
• 6:12
  too
• 6:13
  because
• 6:13
  there's.
• 6:14
  They're
• 6:14
  sticking
• 6:15
  some
• 6:15
  other
• 6:15
  song
• 6:16
  in
• 6:16
  the
• 6:16
  middle
• 6:16
  of
• 6:16
  it
• 6:16
  now.
• 6:17
  Just
• 6:17
  says
• 6:19
  what
• 6:19
  happens
• 6:19
  with
• 6:20
  Jingles
• 6:21
  and
• 6:22
  advertising
• 6:22
  in
• 6:23
  general
• 6:23
  is
• 6:23
  seasons.
• 6:24
  Right.
• 6:24
  So
• 6:24
  they,
• 6:25
  they
• 6:25
  come
• 6:25
  out
• 6:26
  every
• 6:26
  couple
• 6:26
  of
• 6:26
  months
• 6:26
  with
• 6:27
  a
• 6:27
  whole
• 6:27
  new
• 6:27
  ad
• 6:27
  campaign.
• 6:28
  Yeah,
• 6:29
  right.
• 6:29
  But
• 6:29
  it
• 6:30
  doesn't
• 6:30
  always.
• 6:32
  There
• 6:32
  may
• 6:32
  be
• 6:32
  somebody
• 6:32
  in
• 6:33
  an
• 6:33
  office
• 6:33
  somewhere
• 6:33
  doesn't
• 6:34
  understand
• 6:35
  phrasing,
• 6:36
  notation,
• 6:37
  theory,
• 6:37
  and
• 6:38
  how
• 6:38
  to
• 6:38
  correlate
• 6:39
  music
• 6:40
  to
• 6:41
  words.
• 6:42
  I
• 6:42
  don't
• 6:42
  mean
• 6:42
  lyrics
• 6:43
  and
• 6:43
  music.
• 6:43
  I
• 6:44
  mean
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  copy
• 6:45
  that
• 6:45
  an
• 6:45
  announcer
• 6:46
  is
• 6:46
  saying
• 6:46
  and
• 6:47
  things
• 6:48
  don't
• 6:48
  always
• 6:48
  work.
• 6:49
  But
• 6:49
  that,
• 6:50
  that
• 6:50
  one
• 6:50
  is.
• 6:55
  The
• 6:56
  original.
• 6:56
  You
• 6:56
  want
• 6:56
  to
• 6:56
  hear
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  original
• 6:57
  Sunwing?
• 6:58
  Of
• 6:58
  course.
• 6:58
  Yeah.
• 6:58
  I've
• 6:59
  done
• 6:59
  more
• 6:59
  in
• 6:59
  jingles,
• 7:00
  by
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  way,
• 7:00
  I
• 7:00
  think.
• 7:01
  You
• 7:01
  know,
• 7:02
  we'll
• 7:02
  start
• 7:02
  with,
• 7:03
  we'll
• 7:03
  start
• 7:03
  with
• 7:03
  jingle.
• 7:04
  Yeah,
• 7:04
  let's
• 7:05
  do
• 7:05
  that.
• 7:08
  Well,
• 7:08
  okay.
• 7:09
  I,
• 7:09
  I,
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  seldom
• 7:11
  sing
• 7:11
  on
• 7:12
  these
• 7:12
  things
• 7:12
  except
• 7:12
  backup
• 7:13
  stuff.
• 7:13
  I
• 7:13
  hire
• 7:13
  real
• 7:14
  singers,
• 7:14
  but
• 7:15
  I'll
• 7:15
  come
• 7:15
  up
• 7:15
  with,
• 7:16
  I'll
• 7:16
  come
• 7:16
  up
• 7:16
  with
• 7:17
  the
• 7:18
  singing.
• 7:21
  This
• 7:21
  went.
• 7:23
  Relax,
• 7:24
  have
• 7:25
  some
• 7:25
  holiday
• 7:25
  fun.
• 7:26
  At
• 7:26
  Sunwing,
• 7:27
  we
• 7:28
  know
• 7:28
  that
• 7:28
  you're
• 7:28
  number
• 7:29
  one,
• 7:30
  so
• 7:30
  get
• 7:30
  away
• 7:30
  with
• 7:31
  sunwing
• 7:31
  today.
• 7:32
  Sunwing
• 7:33
  ca.
• 7:33
  Sun.
• 7:35
  You
• 7:36
  know,
• 7:36
  so
• 7:36
  now
• 7:37
  they're
• 7:37
  doing
• 7:37
  it
• 7:37
  in
• 7:37
  the
• 7:38
  key
• 7:38
  of
• 7:38
  A.
• 7:38
  Now
• 7:38
  Sunwing
• 7:39
  C
• 7:40
  Now
• 7:40
  while
• 7:40
  we
• 7:41
  changed
• 7:41
  it.
• 7:41
  Sunwing.
• 7:44
  That's
• 7:44
  how
• 7:44
  we're
• 7:45
  doing
• 7:45
  it
• 7:45
  now.
• 7:45
  But,
• 7:46
  but.
• 7:48
  Would
• 7:48
  you
• 7:48
  like
• 7:48
  to
• 7:48
  hear
• 7:49
  why
• 7:49
  I
• 7:49
  did
• 7:49
  that
• 7:50
  one?
• 7:50
  Yeah,
• 7:51
  I
• 7:51
  want
• 7:51
  to
• 7:51
  hear
• 7:51
  why
• 7:51
  you
• 7:52
  did
• 7:52
  all
• 7:52
  of
• 7:52
  them,
• 7:52
  but
• 7:52
  yeah,
• 7:52
  let's
• 7:54
  do
• 7:54
  that
• 7:54
  one.
• 7:54
  I
• 7:55
  was
• 7:55
  on
• 7:55
  a
• 7:55
  vacation
• 7:56
  with
• 7:56
  my
• 7:56
  lady.
• 7:59
  They
• 7:59
  were
• 7:59
  called
• 7:59
  Red
• 8:00
  Seal
• 8:00
  vacations.
• 8:01
  It
• 8:01
  was
• 8:01
  2004.
• 8:03
  Okay.
• 8:04
  They
• 8:04
  were
• 8:04
  just
• 8:04
  a
• 8:04
  small
• 8:05
  little
• 8:05
  company.
• 8:06
  Yeah.
• 8:07
  I
• 8:07
  didn't
• 8:07
  know
• 8:07
  anything
• 8:08
  about
• 8:08
  what's
• 8:08
  Red
• 8:09
  Seal,
• 8:09
  what's
• 8:09
  suddenly.
• 8:09
  I
• 8:10
  never
• 8:10
  heard
• 8:10
  of
• 8:10
  it.
• 8:10
  Actually,
• 8:10
  I
• 8:11
  just
• 8:11
  got
• 8:11
  it
• 8:11
  out
• 8:11
  of
• 8:11
  a
• 8:11
  brochure
• 8:12
  and
• 8:12
  booked
• 8:12
  it
• 8:12
  through
• 8:12
  a
• 8:13
  travel
• 8:13
  agent.
• 8:14
  There
• 8:14
  were
• 8:14
  some
• 8:14
  problems
• 8:15
  on
• 8:15
  the,
• 8:16
  the
• 8:16
  trip,
• 8:17
  which
• 8:18
  they
• 8:18
  try
• 8:18
  to
• 8:19
  fix
• 8:19
  up
• 8:19
  right
• 8:20
  there
• 8:20
  at
• 8:20
  the
• 8:20
  place
• 8:20
  in
• 8:21
  Mexico,
• 8:21
  this
• 8:21
  resort.
• 8:23
  But
• 8:23
  it
• 8:23
  was
• 8:23
  four
• 8:23
  days
• 8:24
  of
• 8:24
  complaining
• 8:25
  until
• 8:25
  they
• 8:25
  finally,
• 8:26
  so,
• 8:26
  so
• 8:26
  half
• 8:26
  of
• 8:27
  the
• 8:27
  week
• 8:27
  was
• 8:27
  ruined.
• 8:27
  Right.
• 8:28
  Yeah,
• 8:29
  I,
• 8:30
  I
• 8:30
  contacted
• 8:31
  the
• 8:31
  company
• 8:31
  and
• 8:31
  they
• 8:32
  sent
• 8:32
  me
• 8:32
  one
• 8:32
  of
• 8:32
  those,
• 8:32
  you
• 8:33
  know,
• 8:33
  vouchers
• 8:34
  for
• 8:34
  a
• 8:34
  hundred
• 8:34
  dollars.
• 8:35
  Yeah.
• 8:35
  Here's
• 8:36
  a
• 8:36
  credit
• 8:36
  on
• 8:36
  a
• 8:36
  future
• 8:37
  trip
• 8:37
  that
• 8:37
  you
• 8:37
  never
• 8:38
  really
• 8:38
  want
• 8:38
  to
• 8:38
  do
• 8:38
  because
• 8:39
  you
• 8:39
  don't
• 8:39
  want
• 8:39
  to
• 8:39
  deal
• 8:39
  with
• 8:39
  them.
• 8:39
  Any
• 8:40
  directions?
• 8:40
  Yeah,
• 8:41
  I
• 8:42
  don't
• 8:42
  know
• 8:42
  why
• 8:42
  they
• 8:42
  think
• 8:43
  that
• 8:43
  they
• 8:43
  give
• 8:43
  you
• 8:44
  something
• 8:44
  graffiti,
• 8:45
  you're
• 8:45
  going
• 8:45
  to
• 8:45
  want
• 8:45
  it
• 8:46
  at
• 8:46
  all.
• 8:46
  But
• 8:47
  anyway,
• 8:48
  I,
• 8:49
  I
• 8:49
  put
• 8:49
  it
• 8:50
  in
• 8:50
  a
• 8:50
  box
• 8:50
  along
• 8:51
  with
• 8:51
  a
• 8:51
  bunch
• 8:51
  of
• 8:51
  stuff
• 8:52
  because
• 8:52
  I
• 8:52
  was
• 8:52
  moving
• 8:53
  houses.
• 8:54
  Six
• 8:54
  months
• 8:54
  later,
• 8:55
  I'm
• 8:55
  unpacking
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  box,
• 8:56
  I
• 8:56
  find
• 8:56
  that,
• 8:57
  I
• 8:57
  find
• 8:58
  that
• 8:58
  voucher,
• 8:58
  and
• 8:59
  it
• 8:59
  got
• 8:59
  me
• 8:59
  back
• 9:00
  up.
• 9:00
  So
• 9:01
  I
• 9:01
  called
• 9:01
  them
• 9:01
  again.
• 9:01
  I
• 9:02
  said,
• 9:02
  oh,
• 9:03
  well,
• 9:03
  Mr.
• 9:03
  And
• 9:03
  so
• 9:04
  and
• 9:04
  so
• 9:04
  deals
• 9:04
  with
• 9:04
  this
• 9:05
  vice
• 9:05
  president
• 9:05
  of
• 9:05
  marketing
• 9:06
  And
• 9:06
  I,
• 9:07
  I
• 9:07
  said,
• 9:08
  no,
• 9:08
  he's
• 9:08
  the
• 9:09
  guy
• 9:09
  who
• 9:09
  signed
• 9:09
  the
• 9:09
  voucher.
• 9:10
  I
• 9:10
  don't
• 9:10
  want
• 9:10
  to
• 9:10
  talk
• 9:10
  with
• 9:10
  him.
• 9:11
  I
• 9:11
  want
• 9:11
  to
• 9:11
  talk
• 9:11
  with
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  president
• 9:12
  of
• 9:12
  the
• 9:12
  airline.
• 9:13
  Wow.
• 9:14
  Oh,
• 9:14
  he
• 9:15
  never
• 9:15
  deals.
• 9:15
  He,
• 9:16
  he
• 9:16
  doesn't
• 9:16
  do
• 9:16
  that,
• 9:16
  sergeant.
• 9:17
  Well,
• 9:17
  he
• 9:18
  does
• 9:18
  now.
• 9:19
  So.
• 9:21
  So,
• 9:22
  yeah,
• 9:22
  so.
• 9:23
  So
• 9:23
  a
• 9:23
  man
• 9:23
  calls
• 9:24
  me
• 9:24
  up
• 9:24
  like
• 9:25
  an
• 9:25
  hour
• 9:25
  later
• 9:25
  and
• 9:26
  he's
• 9:26
  the
• 9:26
  president
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  Sunwing
• 9:27
  Airlines.
• 9:28
  Wow.
• 9:29
  And
• 9:29
  we
• 9:30
  just
• 9:30
  got
• 9:30
  to
• 9:30
  talking
• 9:31
  for
• 9:31
  a
• 9:31
  couple
• 9:31
  minutes
• 9:31
  and
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  said,
• 9:32
  you
• 9:32
  know,
• 9:33
  I
• 9:33
  really
• 9:33
  appreciate
• 9:33
  you
• 9:34
  calling.
• 9:34
  You're
• 9:34
  in,
• 9:35
  you're
• 9:35
  in
• 9:36
  a
• 9:36
  similar
• 9:36
  business,
• 9:37
  the
• 9:37
  other
• 9:37
  side
• 9:37
  of
• 9:38
  what
• 9:38
  I
• 9:39
  guess
• 9:39
  you
• 9:39
  call
• 9:39
  a
• 9:39
  luxury
• 9:40
  type
• 9:40
  of
• 9:40
  business
• 9:42
  to.
• 9:43
  It's
• 9:43
  a
• 9:43
  service
• 9:43
  business
• 9:44
  because
• 9:44
  travel
• 9:45
  and
• 9:46
  food
• 9:46
  and
• 9:46
  beverage
• 9:47
  and
• 9:47
  playing
• 9:47
  parties
• 9:47
  and
• 9:48
  all
• 9:48
  that.
• 9:48
  Yeah,
• 9:49
  A
• 9:49
  lot
• 9:49
  of
• 9:50
  the
• 9:50
  music,
• 9:51
  you
• 9:51
  know,
• 9:51
  that
• 9:52
  I
• 9:52
  do
• 9:52
  on
• 9:53
  a
• 9:53
  live
• 9:54
  with
• 9:55
  my
• 9:55
  own
• 9:55
  band
• 9:56
  is
• 9:56
  corporate
• 9:56
  and
• 9:57
  private
• 9:57
  parties.
• 9:58
  It
• 9:58
  can
• 9:58
  be
• 9:59
  club
• 9:59
  stuff
• 9:59
  too.
• 9:59
  But
• 10:01
  you
• 10:01
  know,
• 10:01
  so
• 10:02
  I
• 10:02
  said,
• 10:02
  we
• 10:02
  do
• 10:02
  something
• 10:03
  similar.
• 10:03
  We're
• 10:03
  just
• 10:03
  kind
• 10:04
  of
• 10:04
  catering
• 10:04
  to
• 10:04
  people
• 10:05
  and
• 10:05
  trying
• 10:05
  to
• 10:05
  make
• 10:05
  them
• 10:05
  all
• 10:06
  feel
• 10:06
  special
• 10:06
  important.
• 10:07
  It's
• 10:07
  just,
• 10:07
  well,
• 10:07
  what
• 10:07
  do
• 10:08
  you
• 10:08
  do?
• 10:08
  And
• 10:08
  I
• 10:08
  told
• 10:08
  him,
• 10:10
  and
• 10:10
  I
• 10:10
  said,
• 10:10
  and
• 10:10
  I
• 10:10
  write
• 10:11
  jingles
• 10:11
  too.
• 10:11
  He
• 10:11
  says,
• 10:12
  what?
• 10:12
  Really?
• 10:13
  Well,
• 10:13
  we
• 10:14
  just
• 10:14
  fired
• 10:14
  co
• 10:15
  set
• 10:15
  advertising
• 10:16
  this
• 10:16
  morning.
• 10:16
  After
• 10:16
  two
• 10:17
  years.
• 10:17
  They,
• 10:17
  they
• 10:18
  can't
• 10:18
  come
• 10:18
  up
• 10:18
  with
• 10:18
  something
• 10:20
  and
• 10:20
  we're
• 10:20
  on
• 10:20
  the
• 10:20
  air
• 10:21
  in
• 10:21
  three
• 10:21
  weeks.
• 10:22
  We,
• 10:22
  we
• 10:22
  bought
• 10:22
  all
• 10:23
  this
• 10:23
  ad
• 10:24
  time
• 10:25
  worth
• 10:25
  of
• 10:26
  airtime.
• 10:26
  Wow.
• 10:27
  Can
• 10:27
  you
• 10:28
  make
• 10:28
  up
• 10:28
  something
• 10:28
  for
• 10:29
  me?
• 10:29
  And
• 10:29
  I
• 10:29
  said,
• 10:30
  sure.
• 10:30
  Says,
• 10:31
  but
• 10:31
  we
• 10:31
  need
• 10:31
  it
• 10:31
  in
• 10:32
  48
• 10:32
  hours.
• 10:32
  Can
• 10:32
  you
• 10:33
  present
• 10:33
  it
• 10:33
  at
• 10:33
  our
• 10:33
  office?
• 10:33
  This
• 10:34
  is
• 10:34
  a
• 10:34
  Wednesday
• 10:34
  afternoon,
• 10:35
  so
• 10:35
  can
• 10:36
  you
• 10:36
  be
• 10:36
  here
• 10:36
  at
• 10:36
  noon
• 10:36
  in
• 10:36
  our
• 10:37
  office
• 10:37
  at
• 10:37
  Burnham
• 10:38
  Thorpe
• 10:38
  and
• 10:39
  you
• 10:40
  know,
• 10:40
  somewhere
• 10:40
  4:27
• 10:42
  at
• 10:42
  noon
• 10:43
  and
• 10:43
  present
• 10:43
  this?
• 10:43
  So,
• 10:44
  so
• 10:45
  I
• 10:45
  put
• 10:45
  this
• 10:45
  thing
• 10:45
  together.
• 10:46
  Wow.
• 10:47
  And
• 10:47
  presented
• 10:48
  it
• 10:48
  and,
• 10:48
  and
• 10:49
  they
• 10:49
  bought
• 10:49
  it.
• 10:49
  It
• 10:49
  came
• 10:50
  out
• 10:50
  of
• 10:50
  it.
• 10:50
  Oh.
• 10:50
  But
• 10:51
  I
• 10:51
  left
• 10:51
  out
• 10:51
  a
• 10:51
  little
• 10:52
  point
• 10:52
  on
• 10:52
  the
• 10:52
  phone,
• 10:53
  that
• 10:53
  first
• 10:53
  phone.
• 10:57
  Well,
• 10:57
  I
• 10:58
  really
• 10:58
  like
• 10:58
  it
• 10:58
  to
• 10:59
  be
• 10:59
  something
• 11:00
  like
• 11:01
  Marineland
• 11:02
  or
• 11:04
  Sleep
• 11:04
  Country
• 11:05
  Canada.
• 11:05
  And
• 11:05
  I
• 11:05
  laugh
• 11:06
  and
• 11:06
  he
• 11:06
  says,
• 11:06
  why
• 11:06
  are
• 11:06
  you
• 11:06
  laughing?
• 11:07
  Because
• 11:07
  I
• 11:07
  wrote
• 11:08
  both
• 11:08
  of
• 11:08
  those.
• 11:09
  That's
• 11:10
  hilarious.
• 11:10
  That's
• 11:11
  amazing.
• 11:11
  Yeah.
• 11:12
  So
• 11:12
  I
• 11:12
  did
• 11:13
  that
• 11:13
  and
• 11:13
  he
• 11:14
  sent
• 11:14
  me
• 11:14
  a
• 11:14
  fifteen
• 11:14
  hundred
• 11:15
  dollar
• 11:15
  voucher
• 11:16
  by
• 11:16
  register
• 11:16
  mail
• 11:17
  for
• 11:17
  my
• 11:17
  girlfriend
• 11:17
  and
• 11:17
  I
• 11:18
  to
• 11:18
  go
• 11:18
  anywhere
• 11:18
  they
• 11:18
  fly.
• 11:19
  And
• 11:20
  we
• 11:20
  went
• 11:20
  to
• 11:20
  London,
• 11:20
  England
• 11:21
  and
• 11:22
  I
• 11:22
  got
• 11:22
  all
• 11:22
  their
• 11:22
  Sunwing
• 11:23
  commercials
• 11:24
  and
• 11:24
  signature
• 11:24
  commercials
• 11:25
  and
• 11:25
  Rio
• 11:26
  palace
• 11:26
  and
• 11:26
  vacations
• 11:27
  occasionally
• 11:27
  express
• 11:27
  in
• 11:28
  the
• 11:28
  States.
• 11:29
  So
• 11:29
  I've
• 11:29
  done
• 11:29
  a
• 11:30
  lot
• 11:30
  of
• 11:30
  business
• 11:30
  with
• 11:30
  them
• 11:31
  because
• 11:31
  of
• 11:31
  my
• 11:31
  complaining,
• 11:32
  you
• 11:32
  know.
• 11:32
  Yeah.
• 11:32
  I
• 11:32
  was
• 11:33
  going
• 11:33
  to
• 11:33
  say,
• 11:33
  look
• 11:33
  where
• 11:33
  complaining
• 11:34
  gets
• 11:34
  folks.
• 11:35
  All
• 11:35
  you
• 11:35
  got
• 11:36
  to
• 11:36
  do
• 11:36
  is
• 11:36
  complain
• 11:36
  and
• 11:37
  you
• 11:37
  might
• 11:37
  be
• 11:37
  able
• 11:37
  to
• 11:37
  network
• 11:38
  at
• 11:38
  the
• 11:38
  same
• 11:38
  time.
• 11:39
  Yeah,
• 11:39
  yeah,
• 11:40
  that's
• 11:40
  right.
• 11:40
  Some,
• 11:41
  you
• 11:41
  know,
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  old
• 11:41
  Saying
• 11:42
  goes.
• 11:42
  I
• 11:43
  guess
• 11:43
  my
• 11:43
  mother
• 11:43
  would
• 11:44
  say
• 11:44
  if
• 11:44
  you
• 11:44
  don't
• 11:44
  ask,
• 11:45
  you
• 11:45
  don't
• 11:45
  get.
• 11:45
  Right.
• 11:46
  Right.
• 11:46
  That's
• 11:47
  very
• 11:48
  simple.
• 11:48
  Such
• 11:48
  a
• 11:49
  good
• 11:49
  point.
• 11:49
  I
• 11:49
  guess
• 11:49
  I
• 11:49
  better
• 11:50
  ask
• 11:50
  my
• 11:50
  question
• 11:50
  then
• 11:51
  so
• 11:51
  I
• 11:51
  can
• 11:51
  get
• 11:51
  the
• 11:51
  answer.
• 11:52
  What
• 11:52
  made
• 11:52
  you
• 11:53
  start?
• 11:56
  I
• 11:56
  wrote
• 11:56
  linens
• 11:57
  and
• 11:57
  things
• 11:57
  when
• 11:57
  I
• 11:57
  was.
• 11:58
  By
• 11:58
  the
• 11:58
  way,
• 11:59
  so.
• 11:59
  And
• 11:59
  the
• 12:00
  owner
• 12:00
  of
• 12:00
  linens
• 12:00
  and
• 12:00
  Things
• 12:01
  chain
• 12:01
  was
• 12:02
  in
• 12:02
  the
• 12:02
  store
• 12:02
  and
• 12:02
  I.
• 12:03
  I
• 12:03
  let
• 12:04
  him
• 12:04
  know
• 12:04
  I
• 12:04
  wrote
• 12:04
  jingles
• 12:05
  too.
• 12:05
  So,
• 12:05
  you
• 12:06
  know,
• 12:06
  I
• 12:06
  guess
• 12:06
  just
• 12:06
  by
• 12:06
  networking,
• 12:07
  as
• 12:07
  you
• 12:07
  just
• 12:08
  said.
• 12:08
  Sorry
• 12:08
  to
• 12:08
  cut
• 12:08
  you
• 12:09
  off.
• 12:09
  No,
• 12:09
  it's
• 12:09
  okay.
• 12:10
  What
• 12:10
  made
• 12:10
  you
• 12:10
  want
• 12:11
  to
• 12:11
  start
• 12:11
  the
• 12:11
  Toy
• 12:11
  House
• 12:12
  Media
• 12:12
  Creations
• 12:12
  company
• 12:13
  in
• 12:13
  the
• 12:13
  first
• 12:13
  place?
• 12:16
  Well,
• 12:18
  I
• 12:19
  don't
• 12:19
  know.
• 12:21
  That
• 12:21
  happened
• 12:21
  when
• 12:21
  I
• 12:21
  was
• 12:21
  17
• 12:22
  years
• 12:22
  old
• 12:23
  and
• 12:23
  I
• 12:23
  was
• 12:23
  doing
• 12:23
  a
• 12:24
  lot
• 12:24
  of
• 12:24
  session
• 12:25
  work
• 12:25
  already.
• 12:26
  Yeah.
• 12:26
  Okay.
• 12:27
  And
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  approached.
• 12:30
  So
• 12:30
  that
• 12:30
  was
• 12:30
  way
• 12:30
  before
• 12:31
  Toy
• 12:31
  House.
• 12:32
  Toy
• 12:32
  House
• 12:32
  Media
• 12:33
  Creations
• 12:33
  kind
• 12:33
  of
• 12:33
  came
• 12:33
  around
• 12:34
  2003.
• 12:35
  Okay.
• 12:35
  But
• 12:36
  many
• 12:36
  years
• 12:36
  before
• 12:36
  that,
• 12:38
  I
• 12:38
  was
• 12:38
  knocking
• 12:38
  on
• 12:39
  doors
• 12:39
  of
• 12:39
  people
• 12:39
  in
• 12:40
  the
• 12:40
  ad
• 12:40
  business
• 12:40
  who
• 12:41
  were
• 12:41
  writing
• 12:41
  jingles
• 12:42
  saying,
• 12:42
  can
• 12:42
  you
• 12:42
  give
• 12:42
  me
• 12:42
  their.
• 12:43
  Your
• 12:43
  overflow
• 12:44
  just
• 12:45
  as
• 12:45
  extra
• 12:46
  money?
• 12:46
  I
• 12:46
  was
• 12:46
  still
• 12:47
  in
• 12:47
  high
• 12:47
  school.
• 12:48
  Yeah.
• 12:48
  I
• 12:48
  guess.
• 12:48
  I
• 12:48
  guess
• 12:49
  it
• 12:49
  was
• 12:49
  just
• 12:49
  wanting
• 12:50
  to
• 12:50
  expand
• 12:51
  musically
• 12:52
  and
• 12:53
  make
• 12:53
  it.
• 12:53
  Make
• 12:53
  some
• 12:54
  real
• 12:54
  ash
• 12:54
  k,
• 12:55
  you
• 12:55
  know?
• 12:55
  Yeah.
• 12:58
  And
• 12:59
  you
• 12:59
  thought,
• 12:59
  you
• 12:59
  saw.
• 13:00
  You
• 13:00
  saw
• 13:00
  that
• 13:01
  as
• 13:01
  an
• 13:01
  opportunity
• 13:02
  at
• 13:02
  17
• 13:02
  years
• 13:03
  old.
• 13:03
  That's
• 13:03
  pretty
• 13:04
  incredible.
• 13:04
  Yeah.
• 13:04
  Yeah.
• 13:04
  What
• 13:04
  led
• 13:05
  to
• 13:05
  that?
• 13:05
  Yeah.
• 13:06
  Would
• 13:06
  have
• 13:07
  the
• 13:07
  foresight
• 13:07
  to
• 13:07
  go.
• 13:08
  Let
• 13:08
  me
• 13:08
  bug
• 13:09
  specifically
• 13:11
  music.
• 13:11
  I
• 13:12
  guess
• 13:12
  I.
• 13:12
  I
• 13:13
  guess
• 13:13
  through
• 13:13
  association.
• 13:14
  I
• 13:14
  was
• 13:14
  already
• 13:14
  working
• 13:15
  in
• 13:15
  some
• 13:16
  shows
• 13:17
  and
• 13:17
  got
• 13:17
  you
• 13:18
  on
• 13:18
  record
• 13:18
  things.
• 13:19
  And
• 13:19
  people
• 13:19
  were
• 13:19
  talking
• 13:20
  about
• 13:20
  the
• 13:20
  fact
• 13:20
  that
• 13:20
  they
• 13:21
  were
• 13:21
  doing
• 13:21
  session
• 13:21
  work
• 13:22
  who
• 13:22
  were
• 13:22
  much
• 13:23
  older
• 13:23
  than
• 13:23
  me.
• 13:25
  And
• 13:27
  the
• 13:27
  pizza.
• 13:27
  Pizza
• 13:28
  being
• 13:28
  the
• 13:28
  first
• 13:28
  thing,
• 13:29
  just
• 13:29
  came
• 13:30
  from
• 13:31
  a
• 13:31
  guy
• 13:31
  called
• 13:31
  Ben
• 13:32
  McPeek
• 13:32
  who
• 13:33
  I'd
• 13:33
  say
• 13:33
  was
• 13:34
  the
• 13:34
  king
• 13:34
  of
• 13:34
  jingles
• 13:34
  back
• 13:35
  then.
• 13:35
  I
• 13:35
  think
• 13:35
  he's
• 13:36
  long
• 13:36
  passed
• 13:36
  away.
• 13:37
  And
• 13:38
  I
• 13:38
  just
• 13:38
  kept
• 13:38
  bugging
• 13:39
  him
• 13:39
  saying,
• 13:39
  you
• 13:40
  have
• 13:40
  something
• 13:40
  that
• 13:40
  you
• 13:41
  can't.
• 13:41
  I
• 13:41
  don't
• 13:41
  have
• 13:41
  time
• 13:42
  for.
• 13:43
  And
• 13:44
  they
• 13:44
  had
• 13:44
  about
• 13:44
  three
• 13:45
  stores
• 13:45
  at
• 13:45
  that
• 13:45
  time.
• 13:46
  Okay.
• 13:47
  And
• 13:47
  I
• 13:47
  made
• 13:48
  that
• 13:48
  up
• 13:48
  in
• 13:48
  about
• 13:48
  15
• 13:49
  minutes.
• 13:49
  It's
• 13:49
  really
• 13:49
  a
• 13:50
  kid's
• 13:50
  time.
• 13:52
  And
• 13:52
  they.
• 13:53
  They
• 13:53
  kept
• 13:53
  it
• 13:53
  for
• 13:53
  about
• 13:54
  two
• 13:54
  years.
• 13:55
  As
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  company
• 13:56
  grew,
• 13:56
  they
• 13:56
  didn't
• 13:56
  put
• 13:56
  it
• 13:57
  on
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  radio
• 13:57
  right
• 13:57
  away,
• 13:58
  but
• 13:59
  I
• 13:59
  think
• 13:59
  they're
• 13:59
  still
• 13:59
  using
• 14:00
  it
• 14:00
  on
• 14:00
  and
• 14:00
  off
• 14:00
  for
• 14:00
  many
• 14:01
  years.
• 14:01
  So.
• 14:02
  Yeah.
• 14:02
  Yeah,
• 14:02
  we're
• 14:03
  all
• 14:03
  familiar
• 14:03
  with
• 14:03
  that
• 14:03
  one.
• 14:04
  Yeah.
• 14:04
  I
• 14:04
  think.
• 14:05
  Yeah,
• 14:05
  it's.
• 14:05
  It's
• 14:06
  a.
• 14:06
  It's
• 14:06
  a
• 14:06
  test
• 14:06
  one
• 14:07
  that
• 14:07
  they
• 14:07
  used
• 14:07
  in.
• 14:08
  At
• 14:08
  the
• 14:08
  border
• 14:08
  service.
• 14:09
  I
• 14:09
  don't
• 14:10
  know
• 14:10
  if
• 14:10
  you
• 14:10
  know
• 14:10
  that
• 14:10
  it's
• 14:11
  in
• 14:11
  law
• 14:11
  books,
• 14:12
  so
• 14:12
  people
• 14:13
  coming
• 14:13
  from
• 14:13
  other
• 14:13
  countries
• 14:17
  often
• 14:17
  morass
• 14:19
  coming
• 14:19
  into
• 14:20
  Ontario
• 14:20
  per
• 14:21
  se.
• 14:21
  But
• 14:21
  I
• 14:21
  think
• 14:21
  it
• 14:22
  Played
• 14:22
  beyond
• 14:22
  Ontario.
• 14:24
  Hum
• 14:24
  the
• 14:24
  pizza.
• 14:25
  They
• 14:25
  say,
• 14:25
  yeah,
• 14:25
  I'm
• 14:25
  a
• 14:25
  Canadian
• 14:26
  citizen.
• 14:27
  Oh,
• 14:27
  hum
• 14:28
  the
• 14:28
  pizza.
• 14:28
  Pizza
• 14:28
  commercial.
• 14:29
  If
• 14:30
  they
• 14:30
  didn't
• 14:30
  know
• 14:30
  it,
• 14:30
  they
• 14:31
  say,
• 14:31
  sorry,
• 14:31
  you
• 14:32
  can't
• 14:32
  come
• 14:32
  in.
• 14:34
  It's.
• 14:34
  There
• 14:35
  are
• 14:35
  cases
• 14:35
  actually
• 14:35
  written
• 14:36
  in
• 14:36
  law
• 14:36
  books
• 14:36
  about
• 14:37
  that,
• 14:37
  but
• 14:37
  I
• 14:38
  found
• 14:38
  that
• 14:38
  out
• 14:39
  a
• 14:39
  couple
• 14:39
  years
• 14:39
  ago.
• 14:40
  I
• 14:40
  saw
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  actual
• 14:40
  cases
• 14:41
  from
• 14:41
  a
• 14:41
  friend
• 14:41
  that's
• 14:42
  a
• 14:42
  lawyer.
• 14:42
  Wow.
• 14:43
  But
• 14:43
  anyway,
• 14:44
  I'm.
• 14:44
  I'm
• 14:44
  dominating
• 14:45
  this.
• 14:45
  Why
• 14:45
  don't
• 14:45
  you
• 14:46
  go
• 14:47
  back
• 14:47
  to
• 14:47
  your
• 14:47
  question?
• 14:47
  Fascinating
• 14:48
  us.
• 14:48
  That's
• 14:49
  what's
• 14:49
  happening.
• 14:49
  We
• 14:49
  love
• 14:50
  every
• 14:50
  nugget
• 14:50
  you've
• 14:50
  given
• 14:51
  us.
• 14:51
  That's
• 14:51
  impressive.
• 14:52
  I
• 14:52
  was.
• 14:52
  I
• 14:53
  was
• 14:53
  trying
• 14:53
  to
• 14:53
  explain
• 14:53
  to.
• 14:54
  Sorry,
• 14:54
  Drakey.
• 14:55
  What
• 14:55
  year
• 14:55
  was
• 14:55
  the
• 14:56
  first
• 14:56
  jingle
• 14:56
  you
• 14:56
  did?
• 14:59
  If
• 14:59
  I
• 14:59
  tell
• 14:59
  you
• 14:59
  that,
• 15:00
  you're
• 15:00
  going
• 15:00
  to
• 15:00
  realize
• 15:00
  how
• 15:01
  old
• 15:01
  I
• 15:01
  am.
• 15:01
  Art,
• 15:02
  we're
• 15:02
  doing
• 15:03
  some
• 15:03
  quick
• 15:03
  math
• 15:03
  here.
• 15:04
  Yeah.
• 15:06
  In
• 15:06
  the
• 15:06
  early
• 15:07
  1970s.
• 15:08
  Okay,
• 15:08
  okay,
• 15:08
  okay.
• 15:10
  And
• 15:10
  before
• 15:10
  that,
• 15:11
  were
• 15:11
  you
• 15:12
  just
• 15:12
  performing
• 15:13
  with
• 15:14
  the
• 15:15
  Nova
• 15:15
  sounds?
• 15:17
  Started
• 15:17
  the
• 15:18
  Nova
• 15:18
  Sounds
• 15:18
  as.
• 15:19
  Yeah,
• 15:19
  I
• 15:19
  guess.
• 15:20
  I
• 15:20
  guess
• 15:20
  that
• 15:20
  was
• 15:21
  the
• 15:21
  first
• 15:21
  band
• 15:22
  I
• 15:22
  was
• 15:22
  performing
• 15:22
  with.
• 15:23
  I
• 15:23
  created
• 15:23
  my
• 15:23
  own
• 15:24
  band
• 15:24
  with
• 15:24
  friend
• 15:25
  walking
• 15:25
  to
• 15:25
  school
• 15:25
  one
• 15:26
  day.
• 15:26
  We
• 15:26
  felt
• 15:26
  sorry
• 15:27
  for
• 15:27
  ourselves
• 15:27
  because
• 15:28
  he
• 15:28
  played
• 15:28
  the
• 15:28
  flute.
• 15:31
  Rock
• 15:31
  bands
• 15:32
  didn't
• 15:32
  have
• 15:32
  a
• 15:32
  lot
• 15:32
  of
• 15:32
  flute
• 15:33
  except
• 15:33
  for
• 15:33
  maybe
• 15:33
  Jethro
• 15:34
  Tall.
• 15:34
  That's
• 15:35
  true.
• 15:35
  Yeah,
• 15:36
  yeah.
• 15:37
  And
• 15:37
  I
• 15:38
  play
• 15:38
  piano.
• 15:38
  And
• 15:39
  there
• 15:39
  were
• 15:39
  only
• 15:39
  a
• 15:39
  couple
• 15:39
  of
• 15:40
  bands
• 15:40
  like,
• 15:41
  you
• 15:41
  know,
• 15:41
  the
• 15:41
  Doors,
• 15:42
  the
• 15:42
  Animals
• 15:43
  with
• 15:43
  keyboards
• 15:44
  in
• 15:44
  them
• 15:44
  occasionally.
• 15:45
  Yeah,
• 15:46
  right,
• 15:46
  sure.
• 15:46
  I
• 15:47
  mean,
• 15:47
  yeah,
• 15:47
  there
• 15:47
  were
• 15:48
  some
• 15:48
  amazing
• 15:49
  keyboard
• 15:49
  players
• 15:50
  like
• 15:50
  yes.
• 15:51
  And
• 15:51
  all
• 15:51
  those
• 15:51
  groups,
• 15:52
  but
• 15:53
  so
• 15:53
  we
• 15:53
  just
• 15:53
  said,
• 15:53
  let's
• 15:54
  make
• 15:54
  our
• 15:54
  own
• 15:54
  band.
• 15:54
  And
• 15:54
  we
• 15:54
  started
• 15:55
  a
• 15:55
  talent
• 15:55
  show
• 15:55
  in
• 15:55
  high
• 15:56
  school
• 15:56
  and
• 15:56
  won
• 15:56
  that
• 15:57
  show.
• 15:57
  But
• 15:59
  let
• 16:00
  me
• 16:00
  see,
• 16:00
  what
• 16:00
  was
• 16:00
  your
• 16:01
  question
• 16:01
  again?
• 16:01
  I
• 16:01
  don't
• 16:02
  know
• 16:02
  if
• 16:02
  I
• 16:02
  actually
• 16:02
  answered
• 16:03
  it.
• 16:04
  When.
• 16:05
  After
• 16:05
  you
• 16:05
  got
• 16:06
  your
• 16:06
  first
• 16:06
  jingle,
• 16:07
  were
• 16:07
  you
• 16:07
  doing
• 16:07
  jingles
• 16:08
  while,
• 16:08
  like
• 16:09
  you
• 16:09
  got
• 16:09
  your
• 16:09
  first
• 16:09
  jingle
• 16:10
  while
• 16:10
  you
• 16:10
  were
• 16:10
  playing
• 16:11
  for
• 16:11
  the
• 16:11
  note
• 16:11
  with
• 16:12
  the
• 16:12
  nova
• 16:12
  sounds
• 16:12
  or
• 16:12
  creating
• 16:13
  that
• 16:13
  band?
• 16:15
  Yeah,
• 16:15
  yeah,
• 16:16
  yeah.
• 16:16
  But
• 16:16
  I
• 16:17
  was
• 16:17
  also.
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  auditioned
• 16:18
  for
• 16:19
  Billy
• 16:19
  Preston
• 16:20
  as
• 16:20
  band.
• 16:23
  I
• 16:23
  was
• 16:23
  doing
• 16:23
  other
• 16:24
  things.
• 16:24
  I.
• 16:25
  RCA
• 16:26
  or
• 16:28
  studios,
• 16:28
  which
• 16:28
  is
• 16:29
  downtown
• 16:29
  in
• 16:29
  Toronto
• 16:30
  around
• 16:30
  college
• 16:31
  and
• 16:31
  Young
• 16:31
  on
• 16:31
  Mutual
• 16:32
  Street.
• 16:32
  It's
• 16:32
  not
• 16:32
  there
• 16:33
  anymore.
• 16:34
  Okay.
• 16:34
  The
• 16:34
  old
• 16:34
  CBC
• 16:35
  studios
• 16:35
  were
• 16:35
  around
• 16:36
  there
• 16:36
  too.
• 16:36
  Right.
• 16:37
  They
• 16:37
  were
• 16:37
  holding
• 16:38
  additions
• 16:38
  all
• 16:39
  around
• 16:39
  North
• 16:39
  America.
• 16:40
  He
• 16:41
  toured
• 16:41
  with
• 16:41
  other
• 16:41
  three
• 16:42
  other
• 16:42
  keyboard
• 16:42
  players.
• 16:44
  I
• 16:44
  actually
• 16:44
  made
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  cut
• 16:45
  when
• 16:45
  I
• 16:45
  was
• 16:46
  like
• 16:46
  19
• 16:46
  and
• 16:47
  they
• 16:47
  wanted
• 16:47
  me
• 16:47
  to
• 16:47
  tour,
• 16:48
  but
• 16:48
  I
• 16:48
  was
• 16:48
  just
• 16:48
  going
• 16:49
  into
• 16:49
  University
• 16:50
  of
• 16:50
  Toronto
• 16:50
  at
• 16:51
  that
• 16:51
  time.
• 16:51
  Maybe
• 16:52
  I
• 16:52
  was
• 16:52
  already
• 16:52
  in
• 16:52
  for
• 16:53
  a
• 16:53
  year
• 16:55
  and
• 16:57
  so
• 16:57
  I
• 16:58
  was
• 16:58
  really
• 16:58
  just
• 16:58
  involved
• 16:59
  in
• 17:00
  playing
• 17:00
  as
• 17:00
  a
• 17:01
  session
• 17:01
  player
• 17:01
  on
• 17:02
  other
• 17:02
  people's
• 17:03
  records.
• 17:05
  Wasn't
• 17:05
  just
• 17:06
  Nova
• 17:06
  Scot
• 17:06
  Nova
• 17:06
  Sounds,
• 17:07
  just
• 17:07
  a
• 17:07
  live
• 17:07
  thing.
• 17:07
  And
• 17:07
  we
• 17:08
  called
• 17:08
  ourselves
• 17:08
  Quasimodo
• 17:09
  when
• 17:10
  we
• 17:10
  did
• 17:11
  high
• 17:11
  School
• 17:11
  and
• 17:13
  university
• 17:14
  dances.
• 17:15
  The
• 17:15
  same
• 17:15
  people,
• 17:15
  but
• 17:16
  like
• 17:16
  chameleons.
• 17:17
  Yeah.
• 17:17
  Okay.
• 17:18
  Yeah,
• 17:18
  we
• 17:18
  changed
• 17:19
  our
• 17:19
  name
• 17:19
  and
• 17:21
  how
• 17:21
  we
• 17:21
  dressed
• 17:22
  and
• 17:22
  played
• 17:22
  a
• 17:22
  whole
• 17:22
  different
• 17:23
  repertoire.
• 17:24
  I
• 17:24
  like
• 17:24
  it,
• 17:25
  you
• 17:25
  know,
• 17:25
  for
• 17:25
  university
• 17:26
  dances
• 17:26
  and
• 17:27
  stuff.
• 17:27
  And
• 17:27
  then
• 17:28
  when
• 17:28
  we
• 17:28
  played
• 17:28
  somebody's
• 17:29
  weddings,
• 17:29
  we
• 17:30
  were
• 17:30
  in
• 17:30
  tuxedos.
• 17:33
  So,
• 17:33
  yeah,
• 17:34
  it
• 17:34
  was
• 17:35
  basically
• 17:35
  a
• 17:36
  whole
• 17:36
  mixture
• 17:37
  of
• 17:37
  things.
• 17:39
  There
• 17:39
  were
• 17:39
  some
• 17:39
  very
• 17:39
  good
• 17:40
  people
• 17:40
  in
• 17:40
  the
• 17:40
  band
• 17:40
  who
• 17:40
  went
• 17:41
  on
• 17:41
  to
• 17:42
  quite
• 17:43
  big
• 17:43
  fame
• 17:43
  and
• 17:43
  fortune,
• 17:44
  if
• 17:44
  you
• 17:44
  will.
• 17:45
  You
• 17:45
  know,
• 17:45
  I
• 17:46
  stayed
• 17:46
  here
• 17:46
  in
• 17:46
  Toronto,
• 17:47
  but
• 17:47
  most
• 17:47
  of
• 17:47
  the
• 17:47
  other
• 17:47
  people
• 17:48
  kind
• 17:48
  of
• 17:48
  took
• 17:49
  off
• 17:49
  and
• 17:49
  went
• 17:49
  on
• 17:49
  the
• 17:49
  road.
• 17:50
  And
• 17:51
  my
• 17:51
  mother
• 17:51
  would
• 17:52
  not
• 17:52
  sign
• 17:52
  the
• 17:52
  consent
• 17:53
  form
• 17:53
  for
• 17:53
  Billy
• 17:54
  Preston's
• 17:54
  tour,
• 17:54
  by
• 17:55
  the
• 17:55
  way.
• 17:55
  Wow.
• 17:56
  They
• 17:57
  came
• 17:57
  over
• 17:57
  to.
• 17:58
  At
• 17:59
  home
• 17:59
  in
• 17:59
  Toronto
• 18:00
  and
• 18:00
  they
• 18:00
  came
• 18:01
  over
• 18:01
  with
• 18:01
  the
• 18:01
  paperwork
• 18:02
  and
• 18:02
  she
• 18:03
  saw
• 18:03
  them
• 18:03
  and
• 18:03
  she
• 18:04
  took
• 18:04
  me
• 18:04
  in
• 18:04
  the
• 18:04
  kitchen
• 18:05
  and
• 18:05
  we
• 18:05
  had
• 18:05
  this
• 18:05
  little
• 18:05
  house.
• 18:06
  You're
• 18:06
  not
• 18:06
  going.
• 18:07
  Wow.
• 18:08
  How
• 18:08
  bummed
• 18:09
  were
• 18:09
  you?
• 18:09
  So
• 18:09
  it's
• 18:10
  not
• 18:10
  the
• 18:10
  first
• 18:10
  time
• 18:10
  she.
• 18:11
  She
• 18:11
  did
• 18:11
  that.
• 18:12
  I.
• 18:14
  I
• 18:14
  had
• 18:14
  been
• 18:14
  doing
• 18:15
  acting
• 18:15
  as
• 18:15
  a
• 18:15
  kid
• 18:16
  and
• 18:16
  wanted
• 18:16
  to
• 18:16
  get
• 18:16
  into
• 18:16
  television
• 18:17
  stuff.
• 18:18
  And
• 18:18
  I
• 18:18
  was
• 18:18
  in
• 18:18
  the
• 18:18
  drama
• 18:19
  class
• 18:19
  at
• 18:19
  the
• 18:20
  Royal
• 18:20
  Conservatory
• 18:21
  of
• 18:21
  Toronto.
• 18:21
  Yeah.
• 18:22
  And
• 18:22
  that
• 18:22
  class
• 18:23
  at
• 18:24
  television
• 18:24
  productions.
• 18:25
  And
• 18:25
  mostly
• 18:26
  it
• 18:26
  was
• 18:26
  girls
• 18:27
  in
• 18:27
  the
• 18:27
  class.
• 18:27
  I
• 18:27
  was
• 18:28
  like
• 18:28
  the
• 18:28
  only
• 18:28
  guy.
• 18:28
  So
• 18:29
  they
• 18:29
  really
• 18:29
  wanted
• 18:29
  me.
• 18:30
  And
• 18:30
  she
• 18:31
  would
• 18:31
  never
• 18:31
  agree
• 18:31
  to
• 18:31
  that
• 18:32
  because
• 18:32
  I
• 18:32
  had
• 18:32
  a
• 18:32
  first
• 18:32
  cousin
• 18:33
  who
• 18:34
  failed
• 18:34
  school
• 18:34
  who
• 18:35
  was
• 18:35
  an
• 18:35
  actor
• 18:35
  because
• 18:35
  of
• 18:35
  all
• 18:36
  the
• 18:36
  rehearsing
• 18:36
  and
• 18:37
  filming
• 18:38
  of
• 18:38
  shows.
• 18:38
  So
• 18:39
  she
• 18:39
  said,
• 18:39
  you're
• 18:39
  not
• 18:39
  going
• 18:40
  to
• 18:40
  be
• 18:40
  like
• 18:40
  your
• 18:40
  cousin.
• 18:41
  So.
• 18:42
  So
• 18:42
  I
• 18:42
  really
• 18:42
  think
• 18:42
  I
• 18:42
  wanted
• 18:43
  to
• 18:43
  be
• 18:43
  an
• 18:43
  actor
• 18:43
  first.
• 18:44
  Interesting.
• 18:46
  A
• 18:46
  lot
• 18:46
  of
• 18:46
  you
• 18:46
  are
• 18:46
  familiar
• 18:47
  with
• 18:47
  the
• 18:47
  DNA
• 18:47
  project
• 18:48
  and
• 18:48
  have
• 18:48
  been
• 18:48
  rocking
• 18:49
  with
• 18:49
  us
• 18:49
  for
• 18:49
  a
• 18:49
  while,
• 18:49
  but.
• 18:50
  But
• 18:50
  some
• 18:50
  of
• 18:50
  you
• 18:50
  aren't.
• 18:51
  A
• 18:51
  lot
• 18:51
  of
• 18:51
  you
• 18:51
  are
• 18:51
  faithful
• 18:52
  listeners
• 18:52
  of
• 18:52
  the
• 18:52
  podcast,
• 18:52
  but
• 18:53
  aren't
• 18:53
  familiar
• 18:53
  with
• 18:53
  some
• 18:54
  of
• 18:54
  the
• 18:54
  other
• 18:54
  work
• 18:54
  that
• 18:54
  we
• 18:54
  do.
• 18:55
  So
• 18:55
  I
• 18:55
  just
• 18:55
  wanted
• 18:55
  to
• 18:55
  take
• 18:55
  a.
• 18:56
  Quick
• 18:56
  moment
• 18:56
  to
• 18:56
  explain
• 18:56
  to
• 18:57
  you
• 18:57
  a
• 18:57
  little
• 18:57
  bit
• 18:57
  more
• 18:58
  of
• 18:58
  what
• 18:58
  we
• 18:58
  do.
• 18:59
  So
• 18:59
  you're
• 18:59
  getting
• 18:59
  married,
• 18:59
  or
• 19:00
  you
• 19:00
  have
• 19:00
  a
• 19:00
  friend,
• 19:00
  a
• 19:00
  cousin,
• 19:01
  a
• 19:01
  sister,
• 19:01
  somebody
• 19:01
  you
• 19:01
  know
• 19:02
  is
• 19:02
  getting
• 19:02
  married.
• 19:02
  Okay,
• 19:03
  you've
• 19:03
  booked
• 19:04
  your
• 19:04
  venue.
• 19:04
  Caterers,
• 19:05
  photographer,
• 19:06
  all
• 19:06
  that
• 19:06
  good
• 19:06
  stuff.
• 19:06
  When
• 19:07
  it
• 19:07
  comes
• 19:07
  to
• 19:07
  live
• 19:07
  music,
• 19:08
  most
• 19:08
  people
• 19:08
  have
• 19:08
  no
• 19:08
  idea
• 19:09
  where
• 19:09
  to
• 19:09
  look.
• 19:09
  We
• 19:09
  have
• 19:10
  you
• 19:10
  covered.
• 19:10
  Picture
• 19:10
  this
• 19:11
  during
• 19:11
  the
• 19:11
  ceremony,
• 19:12
  while
• 19:12
  guests
• 19:12
  are
• 19:12
  being
• 19:12
  seated
• 19:13
  or
• 19:13
  while
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  bride's
• 19:14
  walking
• 19:14
  down
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  aisle
• 19:15
  during
• 19:15
  the
• 19:16
  cocktail
• 19:16
  hour,
• 19:16
  while
• 19:16
  guests
• 19:17
  are
• 19:17
  just
• 19:17
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