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Mike McCarthy, Joe Burrow, NFL Fines, College Football & Fugazi Friday · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on? My people? How are
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  Speaker 1: we doing? John middlecop three Now Podcast? Hopefully everyone is
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: doing well on this Fugazi Friday. I'm recording this before
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  Speaker 1: the games on Thursday night, and I think Fernando Mendoza
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  Speaker 1: looks like CJ. Stroud's gonna play Brock pretty potentially. You
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  Speaker 1: already know if he did or not. So if good
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  Speaker 1: stuff happens out of those games, I might do some
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  Speaker 1: videos tomorrow and put it on the YouTube page to
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  Speaker 1: react to those games. But I have some family obligations
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  Speaker 1: that I can't quite be working late nights for preseason
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  Speaker 1: football quite yet. But I'm gonna watch the Niner game
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  Speaker 1: and go back and watch for Nanda Mendoza. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: go to a dinner at five, So I'll do some
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  Speaker 1: stuff on my YouTube channel tomorrow for sure in regards
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  Speaker 1: to those games. But other than that, a lot going on.
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  Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, Joe Burrow, teams getting fined for fighting. Man.
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  Speaker 1: This college story of guys bouncing back and forth. Chefter
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  Speaker 1: even talked about I saw today on TV. It's happening,
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  Speaker 1: so get ready some of these guys in training camp
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  Speaker 1: are gonna play college football this year. It sounds crazy,
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  Speaker 1: but it's it is crazy, but it's also gonna go down.
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  Speaker 1: I will do some mailbag questions as well, if you
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  Speaker 1: want to get in the mail back question Gonna be
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  Speaker 1: big next week for sure, as we kind of head
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  Speaker 1: into this final week of the preseason. At John Middlecoff.
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube tube tomorrow in regards to some of the
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  Speaker 1: action on Thursday night that I'll try to peek at
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  Speaker 1: from dinner. Well, I'm supposed to be a present with
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  Speaker 1: my family, but I'm a football guy. You know I
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  Speaker 1: like watching football. Uh hope, yeah, Well, let's just dive in.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want to start with the Pittsburgh Steelers and
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  Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. I didn't watch it, but I saw a
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  Speaker 1: clip that Tomlin had gone on Jimmy fallon show, and
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  Speaker 1: obviously he is doing Sunday Night Football. He has been
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  Speaker 1: a guy who's i would say, polarizing with Steeler fans,
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  Speaker 1: but nationally regarded as just a really, really high level coach.
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  Speaker 1: I think if he chooses, and who knows, some guys
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  Speaker 1: love TV, maybe he could get paid even way more
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  Speaker 1: money to start doing games if he chose to have
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  Speaker 1: a different lifestyle. My guess is that he will be
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  Speaker 1: back on the market next year, and if he so
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  Speaker 1: chooses to, I mean his market value is John Harbaugh,
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  Speaker 1: which coaches now make a ton, and John Harbaugh got
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  Speaker 1: five years, one hundred million dollars. I would imagine Tomlin
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  Speaker 1: would get the same thing and probably have his pick
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  Speaker 1: of jobs. I think you can already circle a couple.
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  Speaker 1: If it doesn't go well in Washington, I got that
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  Speaker 1: one circled. If it doesn't go well in Tampa, I
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  Speaker 1: got that one circled. He went to college, uh near
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  Speaker 1: the near the Commanders, and he's worked for the Tampa
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  Speaker 1: Bay when he was very very young. I mean he's
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  Speaker 1: still not that old, but early on in his career.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean you can point to those from a
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  Speaker 1: long long way away, and I'm sure there will be
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  Speaker 1: other options, but it's been undebate, Like you couldn't even
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  Speaker 1: argue that their quarterback situation even at the end of
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  Speaker 1: ben and then through last year with Rogers kind of
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  Speaker 1: being a band aid on a bullet hole has been
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  Speaker 1: a major, major problem. And I've always respected that the Steelers, like,
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  Speaker 1: whether we agree or disagree, that you should just bottom out.
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  Speaker 1: Bottoming out sucks and when you bought them out, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't guarantee you anything, right. I mean, the Browns basically
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  Speaker 1: pulled a hinky, and Baker Mayfield's now like his best
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  Speaker 1: years have been in Tampa Bay, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna try to pull that off. Looks
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  Speaker 1: like the Cardinals are gonna bought them out. The Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: have done it twice. I mean the Dolphins did it
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  Speaker 1: one time in a draft with Joe Burrow and Justin
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  Speaker 1: Herbert and ended up with two Atongua by Loa. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, sports drafting, all this stuff is very, very difficult,
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  Speaker 1: and the Steelers ownership has no time for it. That's
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  Speaker 1: not how they operate. I know. It makes Steeler fans
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  Speaker 1: mad that they go nine to eight or ten and
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  Speaker 1: seven every year and then losing the playoffs, But I
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  Speaker 1: know the Arizona Cardinals, the New York Jets, the Cleveland
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  Speaker 1: Browns would die for that, And so there's a level
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  Speaker 1: of respect I have just this is the way we operate,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's you know, we gotta pivot a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: And I think they kind of got crushed when it
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, they're just hiring Chubby retread Mike McCarthy.
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  Speaker 1: And we talk a lot on this show situations like
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  Speaker 1: I judge JJ McCarthy more than I do Kevin O'Connell,
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  Speaker 1: even so Kevin O'Connell once famously said on I think
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  Speaker 1: a podcast or Dan Patrick or I forget exactly where
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  Speaker 1: he said it, quarterbacks don't fail organizations. Organizations fail quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: and I would agree to an extent, like Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield are proof of that. But I think
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of examples like did the Colts
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  Speaker 1: fail Anthony Richardson? Or is Anthony Richardson just have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of flaws and it just turns out not to
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  Speaker 1: be that good, Like look at Kyle Shanahan's track record.
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  Speaker 1: Did the Niners fail Trey Lance? I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: And listen who you're born like where you're born. I
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  Speaker 1: remember my dad used to say this when I was young.
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  Speaker 1: But you know how lucky you are, of all the
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  Speaker 1: millions of kids that are born every year in all
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  Speaker 1: the war torn third world countries, you got born in Davis, California,
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  Speaker 1: two educated parents who are married, like your leg up
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  Speaker 1: in life. Even if I'm just tomato farmer, your mom
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  Speaker 1: works at the state capitol. Is a massive advantage to
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  Speaker 1: be the overwhelming majority of civilization, right and sometimes who
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  Speaker 1: we get into business with. Who you go work for
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  Speaker 1: out of college. You can work for somebody that all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden five years, ten years, twenty years later
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  Speaker 1: is someone really important, and that person changes your life.
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  Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate in that aspect, from football to
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  Speaker 1: this kind of media world that I had no control over.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the only control. I accepted a job or
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  Speaker 1: accepted like, yeah, I'll do this. I never knew where
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  Speaker 1: it was gonna go. You're just kind of living in
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  Speaker 1: the moment and you look back and you go, Jesus,
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  Speaker 1: you know this was a life changer for me. I
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  Speaker 1: remember Dan Campbell just I I don't remember. I watched
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  Speaker 1: it last night while Maria was doing some baby stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, who we can make fun of him rightfully.
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  Speaker 1: So he's doing like this podcast. I saw it on
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  Speaker 1: YouTube and he's like sits down with coaches and he
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  Speaker 1: knows these guys. He's I don't know if he played
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  Speaker 1: or worked with Dan Campbell, but he knows them really
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  Speaker 1: well and their buddies and it was like an hour
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  Speaker 1: long podcast. So Dan just, I mean want Dan's really
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  Speaker 1: really impressive. It's kind of crazy that at one point
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  Speaker 1: in time he got labeled like this guy's Tom Sula.
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  Speaker 1: It's like watch that. He definitely is not like Dan Campbell.
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  Speaker 1: I've called him forever the third Hardbob Brother. He's a
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  Speaker 1: dynamic dude. And he even said, like how lucky I
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  Speaker 1: got that I got drafted to a place where Sean
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  Speaker 1: Payton was on the staff. Let me think about that.
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  Speaker 1: Sean Payton was on the staff, and then because of
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  Speaker 1: my connection with him, later I would follow to Bill Parcells,
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  Speaker 1: who I would also meet. So my two mentors came
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  Speaker 1: with no control of myself. I got drafted to a
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  Speaker 1: place that had Sean Payton. And then obviously when the
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  Speaker 1: Miami Dolphin situation played out, after it was the interim
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  Speaker 1: coach Sean Payton made him the assistant head coach, and
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  Speaker 1: that change of trajectory of his life and his career,
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  Speaker 1: and now he's resurrected the Detroit Lions. But if Dan
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  Speaker 1: Campbell had been drafted to some random franchise with some irrelevant,
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  Speaker 1: shitty coach, who knows how that plays out, I mean
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  Speaker 1: more than likely he might not be sitting here, And
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  Speaker 1: as he said, I might be on the cattle ranch
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  Speaker 1: with my dad. And I think Mason Rudolph had an
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  Speaker 1: interesting quote. And I think most of you just said,
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  Speaker 1: what's Mason Rudolph's deal? The average football fan would go, heh,
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  Speaker 1: he's not any good. There's definitely some truth to that,
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  Speaker 1: Like when you've watched Mason Rudolph play, Yeah, don't really
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  Speaker 1: see it, but he's gonna have a long career. Really
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  Speaker 1: good looking guy, great hair. He had a fascinating quote
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  Speaker 1: which I think speaks directly to Mike McCarthy. I'm very
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  Speaker 1: aware that the fan base is starved for a franchise quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: people who want to have hope for the future beyond
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  Speaker 1: this year. We got two great quarterbacks who are young
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  Speaker 1: and progressing. Speaking about Will Howard and Drew Out, I
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  Speaker 1: am really really jealous of the structure they have had
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  Speaker 1: and this and this quarterback grooming system the way that
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  Speaker 1: coach McCarthy has done it, because I feel that they
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  Speaker 1: have made a lot of strides. I'll be rooting for
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  Speaker 1: them on Friday. And I got asked the other day
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  Speaker 1: in a mailbag question about Drew Aller and I listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not hiding any bias here. I was not a fan,
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  Speaker 1: would not have drafted him, and I'm a sucker for
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  Speaker 1: big guys with big arms. I just didn't think he
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  Speaker 1: was very good at football right when I watched him play.
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  Speaker 1: It's like I just do not see it. And he
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  Speaker 1: gets drafted in the third round and my scouting buddies
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  Speaker 1: were like, that is a crazy draft pick, and these
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  Speaker 1: are guys that do this for a living, that have fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: twenty thirty years of experience saying that was insane. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I agree. I would not have drafted
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  Speaker 1: this guy. And if you just just type it into Google,
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  Speaker 1: Drew Aler throws from week one in the preseason, he
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  Speaker 1: looked better. And I get it's the preseason, but just
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  Speaker 1: his poise, is movement in the pocket, his accuracy that
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  Speaker 1: I ever remember him looking at Penn State and one
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  Speaker 1: thing you'd say about Penn State not exactly a quarterback factory.
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  Speaker 1: It's why a lot of coaches with big egos, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of scouts in front office, people that believe in
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  Speaker 1: what they do, they often knock the program more than
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  Speaker 1: the player. They go, well, get them in with our coaches.
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  Speaker 1: And if you wanted to knock Tomlin, you would be like, listen,
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  Speaker 1: incredible leader. Guys love him as teams you know, typically
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  Speaker 1: play hard and they never they never just have a
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  Speaker 1: shitty year. They just find themselves away. And there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of truth to that. And like I said, I
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  Speaker 1: think Mike McCarthy's gonna get AE hundred million dollars next year,
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  Speaker 1: assuming that he comes back. But like everyone acted like
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was just the village idiot and the hire
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  Speaker 1: sucked and they should have hired some young, dynamic guy.
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  Speaker 1: And I've said forever a huge part of Mike McCarthy's
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  Speaker 1: branding in a day and age where everyone's poking themselves
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  Speaker 1: with golp ones so they eat seventy calories a day
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  Speaker 1: and don't drink any alcohol and have no sweets, he's
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  Speaker 1: kind of gone the other way. Every time he takes
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  Speaker 1: a year off, I swore to guy, he comes back bigger.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, this goofy guy. Mike McCarthy is like,
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  Speaker 1: what all I know is this Google is track record
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  Speaker 1: at quarterbacks. It's incredible. Right. He was on the front
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  Speaker 1: lines with Aaron Rodgers, who a lot of people were like,
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  Speaker 1: what's up with his throwing mechanics. Then he became one
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  Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks ever. Then he goes to the Cowboys,
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  Speaker 1: which the way we talk about Dak today was one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent not the way we talked about him in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. And then he had the
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  Speaker 1: stretch where everyone just acknowledged like, yeah, he's not perfect,
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  Speaker 1: but fuck he's good, you know. And if you look
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  Speaker 1: back at Mike McCarthy's time with him, you go, Jeeves,
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  Speaker 1: Dak got dramatically better as a thrower, a pocket player,
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  Speaker 1: and just playing the position of NFL quarterback because it's really,
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  Speaker 1: really hard. And here's what I will say, Like McCarthy's
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  Speaker 1: really good with quarterbacks, and you watch Drew Aller, if
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  Speaker 1: he's able to turn him into just a solid player,
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  Speaker 1: that's another notch on his belt, So I think everyone
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  Speaker 1: wrote this guy off. I think there's a branding issue
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  Speaker 1: because of the world is all skinny as shit, it's
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  Speaker 1: all fake. None of them are going to the gym.
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  Speaker 1: They just don't need anything because they got GLP runs
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  Speaker 1: ones running through their blood and they're kind of dependent
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  Speaker 1: on it, from what I've been told, the rest of
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  Speaker 1: their life because the moment you get off it, you
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: get the cravings back if you don't have the discipline.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not Mike McCarthy. And what Mike McCarthy does
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  Speaker 1: is coach quarterbacks really, really well. And his branding next
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  Speaker 1: to guys like Harbaugh and Tomlin, even though their resumes
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  Speaker 1: next to each other are fucking identical, are not held
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  Speaker 1: in the same esteem. John Harbaugh was discussed as just
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  Speaker 1: a home run higher by the Giants. Whoever hires Mike Tomlin,
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  Speaker 1: it'll be like, oh my, what a hire, an upgrade
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  Speaker 1: from the guy we just fired. Yet it felt like
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: everyone in Pittsburgh was like this sucks. Everyone around the
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: country was like, that's who you hired. But everyone's you know,
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: kind of get so excited when guys like Mike McDaniel
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  Speaker 1: are hired or this year, all the coordinators are hired, like,
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  Speaker 1: we know the hit rate on those guys. Here's why
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  Speaker 1: I know the hit rate is on Mike McCarthy. Historically
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  Speaker 1: two places has been. They've gone to the playoffs a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I mean cowboys what he went to the playoffs three
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  Speaker 1: out of five years, won a division two of them.
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  Speaker 1: And now Mason Rudolph, who's been in the league a while,
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  Speaker 1: seen a lot of shit goes. This is crazy, this
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  Speaker 1: is I am so jealous of how these guys get
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  Speaker 1: to enter the league. And it just shows you, man,
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  Speaker 1: how you start can change the course of your career.
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  Speaker 1: And clearly these Will Howard and Drew Aller are in
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  Speaker 1: lucky spots. We talk a lot about Joe Burrow because
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  Speaker 1: I get asked the question a lot like how much
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  Speaker 1: is on the line, how much pressure is on the line.
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  Speaker 1: What's gonna happen if they don't make the playoffs? He
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  Speaker 1: literally said today his quote, it's now or never. That's
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  Speaker 1: how I'm treating it. I'm trying to manifest it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to show our guys the urgency that I have
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  Speaker 1: and that I want us to have as an organization
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  Speaker 1: to go and make this happen. We can't just keep
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  Speaker 1: saying next year, next year, next year. Life's too short.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to instill some urgency and some intensity in
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  Speaker 1: everybody to go out and be great every day and
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  Speaker 1: try to make this happen. I think given the talent
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  Speaker 1: that is now on this team, there is no team
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  Speaker 1: that has more of a boom or bust feel to it. Because,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: like you can say, well, if the Eagles missed the playoffs,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Sirianni'd be crazy, but like he'd be in some trouble.
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  Speaker 1: We go different spots, right. Obviously, some coordinators if it
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  Speaker 1: failed that they would get booted. But this is a
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  Speaker 1: team now that's missed the playoffs for a couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: They have a quarterback who has just universally thought of
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  Speaker 1: as one of the top guys, but he has on
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  Speaker 1: the field. I love Joe Burrow. A couple of years
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  Speaker 1: ago against the forty nine ers in San Francisco, it
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  Speaker 1: was like one of the best games I've ever seen played,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember texting with a personnel guy about that game.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, bro, I just watched the table. It was
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  Speaker 1: incredible and he even defended a little bit. This was
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  Speaker 1: after the fact. He's like, you know, the Bengals offensive
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  Speaker 1: line gets totally just discounted, like there's a bunch of scrubs.
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  Speaker 1: They suck, and he's like, you know, one issue with Joe,
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  Speaker 1: which is also part of his greatness, is he holds
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  Speaker 1: onto the ball till the absolute last second, and he
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: gets himself in some trouble. I think it's toe injury.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it was a situation last year where kind
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  Speaker 1: of held onto the ball. He's not playing behind the
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys mid nineties offensive line. I'm not acting like
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  Speaker 1: all these guys are elite, but like everything is there.
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  Speaker 1: They joint practiced the Raiders, excuse me, the Bears this
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  Speaker 1: week and their center. I think it's Ted karrass that's
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: how you say his name. He's clearly just been getting
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: his ass kicked in practice by Dexter Lawrence. He said,
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  Speaker 1: after watching the Bear struggle against Lawrence, which all reports
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  Speaker 1: said Dexter was an unblockable force, said it was fucking great.
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  Speaker 1: It validated a lot of my insecurities. If they get
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  Speaker 1: a motivated Dexter Lawrence to go with some of their
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  Speaker 1: younger guys on the defensive line to go with Joe,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, obviously the playmakers they have outside. I
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  Speaker 1: like their running back Brown a lot pretty versatile piece.
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  Speaker 1: Like this is a team that has no excuse to
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  Speaker 1: not win this division. They really don't. I mean they
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  Speaker 1: should be, right. I mean, obviously, major injuries can derail you,
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  Speaker 1: but a team competing for the number one overall seed,
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  Speaker 1: Burrow knows it. Sometimes you just know, right, Like you know,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: in relationships, you're like, it's kind of this is sometimes
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: she gives you that ultimatum, especially some people when they're
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: right in that sweet spot of like late twenties, early thirties,
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  Speaker 1: like I can't keep doing this situationship on steroids. Is
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: this either gonna be long term? Or are we gonna
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: get married, are we gonna have kids? Or do we
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  Speaker 1: just go our separate ways? Right? And you kind of
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  Speaker 1: feel it, right, there's sometimes a tension in a relationship
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  Speaker 1: that way. It's like yeah, no, right, or yeah, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's get down. And I think sometimes in organizations like Philly,
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  Speaker 1: having worked there and obviously I know a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: it's like that in that city and that team with
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  Speaker 1: Howie every single year, teams like the Bengals like went
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  Speaker 1: nine and eight times were good. You know, it's like
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: we're so close. Last year, it's like, oh, Joe was
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: hurt some organizations that stuff like that just wouldn't be tolerated,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and with Cincinnati it has been. But I think Joe
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: is really trying to put like I mean, the guy
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: played at LSU like that. It's way more pressure packed
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: playing at LSU than Cincinnati. It just is. I mean,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: just fired Brian Kelly in the middle of the year
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: and paid him like seventy million dollars to pack a
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: shit and get the hell out of there. Think about that.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's there is way. I remember a GM
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: telling me one time. He's like, you know, it's funny
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: seeing some of these some of the young kids, like
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the rookies. They played at Alabama, they played at LSU,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: they played at Florida, they played at Georgia, played Ohio State, Texas,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you pick all the big schools throwing up before preseason games.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: He's like, sometimes you have to kind of pat him
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: on the back and be like, Bro, you played in
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the Iron Bowl for the last three years, you beat
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Michigan the last two years in the Big Game, You've
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: been in the College Football Playoffs, you played in front
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: of one hundred thousand people. You know, at fifteen games
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: fifteen times in your life, the stadium is gonna be
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: half full. You're a good player, Just just play football, man,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: this isn't you're a third round pick. You're gonna make
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the team. But just like unless you threw up every
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: game then too, you don't need to be extra nervous here.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: That there's more pressure in some of these college environments
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: than in certain teams. Like there's just more pressure playing
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: for LSU than there is playing for the Arizona Cardinals.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, living here, it's like it just doesn't matter.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: You know, play well great, you don't. He's like whatever,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: no one's really paying attention. And I think the Cincinnati
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Bengals there's gonna be a spotlight on them this year
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: that there just hasn't been really in recent years. I
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: saw that the Cowboys and the Saints got fined for fighting,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and I guess the competition committee has tried to make
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a point of the violence in practice. I just to me,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: this was kind of a red flag. How do you
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: quantify what falls under that's finable? And that's not just
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: because you see a social media video of guys flying
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: all over the place that could happen in practic is
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: where there aren't videos going viral. Some of these teams,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Like I've been to different practices where you can video stuff,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: you know, all practice long, there are some teams where
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: you are not allowed to video stuff after the individual period.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Even in training camp you are not allowed to post it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: So I think I get what they're doing in theory,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: and I think all the coaches would love no fighting.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: It's kind of part of practice. You go to like
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: junior Peewee's. Right when I was in you know, fifth
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: sixth grade, they called you know, the version of tackle football.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: It was called midgets. Its junior midgets and midgets. Imagine
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: in Davis, California, they do not call that anymore. Hell,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: they probably canceled it. But then you get to junior
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: high and high school and college. I've seen fights literally
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: going back to you know, little tikes, all the way
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: through the pros. They happen in football. It's not now
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: if I totally understand finding someone, if you like it,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: swung a helmet and broke the guy's face, something bad
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: results from it. But just training camp fights now, you
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: could argue it's on the teams to corral it. All
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: these coaches are telling these players you're not allowed to fight,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: do not fight. Sometimes it just happens you're talking about alphas,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: you know. I saw Saquon Barkley say he doesn't like
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: joint practices because he's like, I'm so focused at practice.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: A lot of times in these joint practices, like ruckuses breakout,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it's just hard to focus as much as it would
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: be when you're just practicing against your own team in
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: training camp. And there's probably some merit to that. I
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: think coaches like it more to see evaluate less guys
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: like Saquon Barkley and more like the second half of
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: their team, you know, beside the top twenty guys. What
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: does guy twenty one through fifty look like? What does
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: fifty through seventy look like? Are any of those guys
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: better than the guys that I thought? So it used
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: more to validate those guys. But I understand what Sequon's saying,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I just fighting teams for fighting. That seems that seems
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: a little bit overbearing. The other thing that the story
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: that went pretty viral is the college thing of these
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: guys from the class of twenty twenty two. It was
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: just sixteen guys but there are other cases going on.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be every single guy that fell under that
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: parameter that has an extra year eligibility that if they
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: don't make the team, they're gonna have the chance to
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: go back. And it's it's going to happen, like some
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: of these guys who are playing in training camps. I
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: think one dude played for Tampa Bay was one of
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the guys who just had two sacks in the first
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: preseason game. Let's assume he doesn't make the uh, you know,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the roster. He can make up to two hundred and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars or he can go back to LSU.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: A lot of people I've talked to think that because
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: part of the rule right now is they're gonna allow
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: you to go back to your previous school because technically
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the transfer portal isn't open. But I've heard some people say,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: how are they gonna regulate that? What if the kid
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: just goes Yeah, actually we want to go to Florida.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: They're offering more. Who's gonna stop them? And clearly college
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: football is an unregulated mess. I mean, we're gonna have
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's going to happen, Like everyone I talk
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to you like, it's not if, it's and it's not when,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: because we know the date it's gonna happen in early September,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and some of these college teams will have already played
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: a game that they are going to return to their
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: team or return to another team. Some of these personnel
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: departments are already preparing to land some of these guys.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: And it's gonna be funny. It's like, uh, you go
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: to his wiki in like ten years, it was like
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: start at Virginia Tech, then he got really good. He
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: went to LSU, then he went to training camp for
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and then he returned. Then he went
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: to Florida. You know now these you're you would have
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the guy's rights if you drafted him. Not quite sure
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: how it works as an undrafted free agent. The question
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I would have is this. The NBA talks about this
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: a lot. Start your clock right, It's why so many
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: guys want to get into the NBA so they can
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: start their clock for the second contract. Which to me,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: if you're like a no doubt about it, like Victor
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Webbin Yama or Anthony Davis, great, but most guys like
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: can you play? I mean that mindset, to me, is
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy. But like, your clock literally does start.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: And I aied it and it said about thirty five
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: to forty percent of rookies that start the season on
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: practice squad end up playing in the regular season. So
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: once you start playing in the regular season, your clock starts.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And unlike the first rounders, as a fifty year option,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: you would be eligible for a new contract after your
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: third year. Now you'd have to prove it and play well.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: But like sometimes players get a lot of credit, like
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: he took a little less, Well, it's like, yeah, I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: mean Kevin Durant took a couple million dollars lest one
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: time with the Golden State Warriors, like god, instead of
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: making thirty one, he made twenty nine and it kept
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: him below the tax Like it literally really doesn't change
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: his life one bit, and it enables his team to
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: taking less, to me, is dramatically changing your lifestyle or
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: seeing a big picture and going, you know what, I
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: could go back and make a little more short term,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: but I'm the guy at Tampa that just had two
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: secs and I don't make the roster. But Jason Lyton,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, go listen, we will give you, you'll be
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: on the practice squad and look at our team last year.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: At any moment, the NFL guys can drop like flies.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: You can get elevated at the blink of an eye.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, you're up here. If you
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: start doing well, we're invested in you. In a couple
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: of years, you could be a fifteen to twenty thirty
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: million dollars player. It literally happens all the time. So
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I do think that some of these guys are gonna
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: make short term or short sighted decisions. The other thing,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: it's football, So you know, you go to LSU all
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, or or wherever you know, one of
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: these power for conferences and you get injured, like could
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: derail your career because at least if you get injured
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: on the team that drafted you or an undrafted free
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: agent practice squad guy, like, they're pretty vested in you.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: They're clearly they've taken a liking, do you. And I
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: just wonder if some of these guys and the agents
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: are gonna push them take the most money possible. Now,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: some of these teams, like technically you could match, right.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: So let's say I'm practice squad is like two hundred
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and fifty grand give or take a year. But it's
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: not really because I can cut you at any moment,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: so you're not guaranteed that money. This isn't like a
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I'm signing to you at a two year, five hundred thousand
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: dollars contract, you're guaranteed every penny. You're literally guaranteed week
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to week. I mean, there is no guarantee. So the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: nil would be a guarantee even if the money was
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the same. But let's say some of these colleges are
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: offering double that. A team technically can offer you more.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: They can pay you that, they can pay you a
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: roster salary on the practice squad it happens, or they
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: could guarantee your salary like that. They can finagl a
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: little bit too. If some of these guys leave, I
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: would imagine it'll be because the actual NFL teams like
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: em whatever. I mean, if they're really interested in the player,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: especially because that player has been at practice. The owner
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: is gonna be, you know, have an understanding of who
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the guy is. Here is coach and GM talk about him.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I do think some teams or some guys are going
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: to get lucrative enough offers and power to them. I mean,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: life's all about leverage. Usually as a practice squad guy,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you don't have that much leverage Beside, like a couple
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: other teams want you on the practice squad. Maybe you
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: get the full year guaranteed, but I was like, yeah,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a little more. I'm gonna need you know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: a regular roster spot salary. And it's easier to justify
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that to your owner instead of just like, we really
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: like this guy. We don't want to lose this guy
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: to being like LSU and Florida Enjoy Georgia and uh
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Iowa are literally offering him that right now. So let's pam.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: But man, it's it's it's crazy times with you can
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: go to a training camp and return to college and
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: as of right now, like I said, it's only returning
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: to the school in which you just played at. But
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: we've seen there are no rules, so who is going
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: to stop them from playing for a different team, right
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even imagine some of the calls
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: being made right now. Crazy times. Okay, before we do
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a couple of mailback questions, quick, Fugazi Friday, I don't
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: want to throw the gym's name under the bus, but
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: it's it's really the only gym in the general area.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I've been going there for years. It's not it's not
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: by you know, there are cheaper options. I'd have to
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: drive a little bit farther. It's it's a little expensive.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: In fairness, it's one of the only things in my
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: life that I go to. It has an incredible locker room.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: They just redid it. I got infrared sauna, cold tub,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: steam room. They even have like a little nap room
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: now they've rebuilt. They have an incredible like juice bar
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: for smoothies, and I just enjoy it. And you know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: they have a daycare now, you know, or I mean
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: they've had it, but now that I have a kid,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: like it's like six bucks. So if we Maria wants
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: to go work out, she could drop them off there
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: up to like two and a half hours. I mean,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: it's great. But forever, I've never paid a gym membership
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: my entire life since getting out of football. That you
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: couldn't pay a credit card and if the gym membership
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: was fifty bucks, one hundred bucks. By the time I
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: left the Bay Area, this one I was using started
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: at like one hundred. It was like up to two hundred.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: It was kind of crazy, but you just pay with
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: your credit card. No, it's just the number is the number. Well,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I started looking the other day and I was like,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: why is why is this gym bill going up? And
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: sometimes I'll be the first to admit, you know, you
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: get a smoothie right and over the course of a month, right,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: if you're in the month, it's pretty easy to get
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: ten smoothies over the course you're working out twenty eight
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: of those days at the gym. It's like I'll grab
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: one in the way out. Actually, the price point on
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: the smoothie relative to what they would be at like
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the the Nice smoothie place kind of buy my house
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: that has like nice protein smoothies, it's like nine bucks
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: way cheaper. It's like I justify it that way. They
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: also have food and stuff. They have a bunch of classes.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I love it, Like I'm a big fan. Hot Yoga
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: is through them spin classes. But I guess in December
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: they had sent out an email that the transaction fee
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: for the bill that is like three and a half
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: or three three and a half percent is no longer
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: going to be covered by the gym. But like most people,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you get an email like you don't even pay attention
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: to probably delete delete. So all of a sudden, I
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: look back in like the last six months, I'm like,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: why am I paying an extra twenty thirty dollars for
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: my bill? Well, it was usually like sixteen. It was
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: just it was outrageous, and I storm into the accounting office.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: She knew where I was coming from. She's like, people
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: over the last couple of months have been charged because
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: some of these people are in big family play. It
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: has a massive pool, they do camps. It's really it's
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: like a club more than just like a specific gym.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Family accounts I think are pretty expensive, right, if you've
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: got four or five people on it, kids charging shit,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: And I don't know anyone that wires money. This isn't
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: my mortgage, this isn't a car payment, this is a
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: fucking gym membership. And I'm getting charged a credit card
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: account fee's And she started kind of telling me the dirt.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, our CFO they had, like cause I
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: guess they have, you know, some of these all over Arizona.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: They made a decision that instead of them meeting the
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: cost we're gonna push that off to the consumer. I'm like,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you guys have raised the dues since I've been here,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: so you're not only raising the dues, you were also
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: adding the credit card fee on top. And let's face
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: it again, this isn't this isn't a work email. A
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: lot of people aren't reading the day and I get
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: a you know, some of these, like my gym, I
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: get like an email a day about random shit. I
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: don't ever pay attention. I'm like, that's that's kind of bullshit.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: That really is. I'm gonna have to pay wire just
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: to save out a principle right out of principle because
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: you're doing that. She's like, yeah, people are mad. I'm like, yeah, no,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: shit that this is one of those purchases that I
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: don't want to get. Like at least I get points
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: for paying, probably a little more than I would like
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: to given, especially with Jack, like Maria doesn't even use
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: it as much lately. But I I just I don't
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: understand one I'm not in the financial world, the credit
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: card fees. Everyone's got their hand in the cookie jar.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I understand how business works, but I don't know It's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: one thing if if I do something with you, like
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: my my gas bill or my water bill or whatever,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: any of my bills. It says, hey, if you pay
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: with card, and it's been like this since I've lived
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: here or just paid bills on my own, it's going
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: to charge you a two and a half three percent fee.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: If you pay cash, no fee, It's like, okay, it's
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: right there. But when you start a transaction with the
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: consumer as you don't get charged with it. And here's
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the other thing. I pay if I buy however many smoothies,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: eat a couple of lunches there, Well, my bill goes
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: up right because you don't pay a credit card. You
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: just charge it to your account. So then at the
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: end of the month you could add maybe one hundred,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: maybe one hundred and fifty dollars with food, smoothies and
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: all this other shit. I can imagine some of these
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: people with families, some of their food bills could be
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: five hundred dollars. Kids just go in there, charge their parents' account.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Give me a smoothie, get me a cheeseburger, give me
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: a hot dog, get me some pizza. I mean, you
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: got a fucking the food's pretty good. And well, then
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: your bill goes up. So when they charge the credit
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: card account, right, the bill is based off that as well.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: It's like, this is fucking insane. So I think, out
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: of principle, I might just change, But I just think
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: that's bad business, right. I don't think you can just
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: send out an email when people have been accustomed. I
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: mean some of these people probably been members of this
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: place for twenty years, fifteen years. I've just never heard
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: of anybody. Maybe I'm nuts of paying cash monthly cash
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: not on their credit card for a gym membership. Fucking joke.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Ry pissed me off, really did. It's funny, you know,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you get life gets going good, and you're just not
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: always on top of certain bills. Sometimes you just kind
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: of get in the mode. You see that he's like, oh,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna check some other stuff and you see some
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: like service fees on checking accounts. You know, like, am
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I getting screwed left and right all over the place
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: not paying attention? You realize, you know, some of these
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: people that get taken advantage of in business. It is
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: pretty understandable. Once you start making a ton of money
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: and you have like some of these athletes that get
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: screwed it's like, well, you're living great, You're making millions.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: All these other people start kind of skimming off the top.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: You don't even notice because your life doesn't change. That's
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: my equivalent of getting charged an extra twenty thirty dollars
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: service fees by like five different people. But keep an
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: eye for those service fees. Is the credit card fee?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, no one really bothers me question
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: for the bag. Regarding NFL expanding internationally, it strikes me
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: as odd that the EPL or one of the other
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: big European leagues haven't tried to bring some of their
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: games in the US. A neon or one pm start
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: time on the East Coast Saturday would still be fine
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: for TV back in Europe. With soccer being the most
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: popular sport worldwide, seems like a missed opportunity. Are there
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: restrictions or reasons in your opinion? I don't know the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: rules and EPL well enough. I would imagine they don't
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: want to give up the gate, right, I mean, it's
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: having those games at home. If you're Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Man United, you know you list them Barcelona like you
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: ain't given those up, like that's part of your business
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: plan right again, I'm speaking a little out of turn.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I don't follow the league that well. They have played
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: games over here though. When I worked for the Eagles,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: we hosted Manchester United multiple times if I remember correctly,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: like playing international friendlies. Maybe that's changed over I mean
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: that was probably twenty eleven, but I feel like they've
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: definitely traveled around a little. That was their B team
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: though you know, Beckham wasn't there. I don't know. I
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: don't know why they don't, like, that's their business there.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: If you want to watch it, tune in their time,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: that's what I think they think. I don't. I'd be
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: lying if I understood the economics, like how their TV
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: deals work, like what type revenue. Clearly they're very valuable franchises,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: but like what are the equivalent to over here? You know,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: do they generate a Probably could ai it, But I mean,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: are we talking five hundred million dollars a year revenue?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: We're talking eight hundred was like the NFL? Is it?
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Listening to Monday's Pod, a listener asks
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: why Jim Harbaugh gets so much praise with lack of
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: success in the NFL. Well, I disagree with the take.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I just wonder why Sirianni gets so much scrutiny with
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: more NFL success when, in my opinion, they are the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: same style head coach. I think this is simple. Typically,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: if you go to an organization, there aren't two stars
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: non player, right, I would say Seattle feels kind of rare.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Right now, Schneider, Mike, you could even say Less Snead
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Wheeling and Delon less McVeigh. Like, if we just start
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: going around the league, it's a lot of like Kyle
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Shanahan's the star, right, Dan Campbell, Brad Holmes have been
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: a pretty good it's John Harbaugh, right. I just think
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: it's you know, people like Elliott Wolf, Mike rabel Is,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: like Mike vrabel Is, the big dog, George Peyton. You know,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I've always heard good things, but like Sean Payton's a
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: star there. Well, when I say the Eagles coaches, executive staff,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: who do you think about, Like Howie Roseman has become
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: like the theo Epstein. He's become the pat riley of
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the franchise, so he gets a ton of credit for
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: the immense talent on the roster. When I think Jim Harbaugh,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think Jim Harball and Jim Harball, I mean
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: he hired what's his name? The hell is his name?
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Bald guy saw him at the combine from the comp
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: from from the Ravens. You know, I swear to God
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh and John they just passed back and forth coaches,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: even players like Najie Harris last year Chargers signed. This
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: year the other Harbaugh signs. So I think it's if
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh had Howie Roseman and they were with Justin
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Herbert and they were losing the first round every year,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I think we would talk about it a little different.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Joe Ortiz is the GM who by all Cow's good,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: but like Jim Harbaugh, single handedly, Stanford was a joke.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman, once upon a time, probably he might change
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: his opinion now with Indiana said it was the greatest
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: turnaround job he's ever seen. So even if you want
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: to put that too behind Indiana, like within a couple
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: of years they were one of the best teams in
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the country and then it held serve with Shaw, the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Niners were a joke. Mike single Tear, all time great player,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: not a great coach. One time dropped his pants in
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: the middle of the locker room to try to motivate people.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: News flash didn't work. I mean he was in the
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: NFC Championship the first year with fucking Alex Smith, who
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: was viewed as a scrub, and then by this Michigan.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I mean Michigan was a joke when he got there.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Now you could argue stole some signs, you know, gave
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: some cheeseburgers, but I don't hold that against him. But
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I really think the difference is how he If Sirianni
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: had me as his GM, then Sirianni got Look how
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: much success this guy's doing. But I think a lot
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: of people go, well, he definitely has nothing to do
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: with the roster. And again I'm not anti Sirianni. He's
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: kind of grown on me. But I mean, I don't
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: know he has. The defense is one hundred percent Fangios.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, you see Fangio's press conference, He'll be like, yeah,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Garnard probably out for week one. I mean, no
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: one can tell, uh Fangio shit. Uh. Just listen to
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: your recent mailbag question from the twenty year old returning
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: to his high school to coach football. I totally agree
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: that pushing kids to be their best, give max effort
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: and compete is an extremely valuable lesson that will take
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: these young men foreig in life. Thinking back on all
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: my high school football coaches, the best ones were the
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: ones I respected the most, the ones that would demand
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: the most of you but also build you up. I
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: never mind it being coach hart by the guy by
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: those guys because I trust and respected them and didn't
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: want to let them down. Other coaches only ever yelled,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: but never praised or built up. When those coaches barked,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: it fell on deaf ears. In your experience in high school,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: playing days to college and the pros, did you find
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: coaches that built relationships would get more out of their
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: players than coaches that would ever bark. I think the kid,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it's you know, as a freshman in college, a freshman
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: in high school, or a rookie in the NFL, you know,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: you kind of just gotta you're kind of drinking out
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: of fire hose and you're gonna get yelled at more.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: But once you become an established player. I think anytime
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: a coach at any level, and it's much easier in
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: college and pros can really get to know the person
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: and it'd be like I like this person, I'm invested
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: in you as a person. We have a real relationship.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: It allows me to do what I need to do
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: as a coach. And I would say the best coaches
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I've been around, whether you're a barker not a barker,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: it's just their relationship with their player of like this
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: guy knows what he's doing, this guy wants the best
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: for me, and this guy actually cares about me, Like
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: that matters. That matters. You can get on the guys
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: if they know they like you. Now, the other easy
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: way to get respect is, you know, at any level,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: if I'm going to play for the top five high
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: school in the country, like if I go play a
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Modern Day or I go play for Carson Palmer, like
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: he kind of just has respect. Like when John Harball
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: walks in that locker room, like he's he just has
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: some equity, right, you know. Now, I think sometimes some
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: of these younger coaches like Ben Johnson last year, Mike
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: McDonald a couple of years ago, or Kyle and Sean originally,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: you know, you're just a coordinator or some hot shot.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Like it takes a little time, right, But like if
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin shows up next year, to Team X. I
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: mean he can kind of drive a hard line right
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: away because he has pelts on the wall. So when
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: a guy walks into a business meeting, he might be
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: the next Zuckerberg, right, he might be the next fucking Elon.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: But if he's twenty seven and never done shit, it's
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: hard whoever he's pitching, like, they're not going to respect
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: him as much, not even nearly as close if the
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: guy that walks in is the established, very successful guy.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: So it also matters who you are your entry point.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I think the player's actions, you know, it's like I
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: don't just have to kiss your ass, like if you're
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: not doing the right things, and if that's in college,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: like treating people bad, having a bad attitude, and you
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: can say that works than the NFL too, Like the
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: players got to meet them halfway. You know. Brady eventually cracked.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: He's like, me and Bill have a little in no relationship.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: He's always screaming at me. It's like, I'm forty years old,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: got MVPs and rings? Can you just treat me a
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: little bit different? And Bill couldn't. Bill couldn't adapt. Bill's
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: the greatest coach I've ever watched in his prime. But
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I don't do people that can't adapt. And Bill could
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: always adapt scheme no problem. Like he he could play
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: seventeen games and run seventeen schemes. When he was with
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: New England, they could do seventeen different things. But like
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: he could never deal with the players differently. It's like
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: that's part of the deal, and that's what he said.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: The Dan Campbell interview I watched, Dan said Bill Parcell's
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: greatest strength was because he's known as his crazy hard ass.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: He's like, honestly, he was the best coach I've ever
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: been around who could understand every individual, Like some guys
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: didn't need to be written and he would like leave
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: him alone and he knew the guys that he would
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: have to ride and he would write the shit out
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: of him. But like some coaches, because they don't have
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: a great I don't know if it's eq or just
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: feel for people, they're just so like, this is my scheme,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: this is what I do. Like a huge part of
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: coaching is psychologically having a plan with individuals. With the group,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: motivation drives like Saban's thing. They say Saban was awful
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: after wins. It's when he was the most miserable after
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: a loss. It was when he was the best in
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: terms of uplifting everybody, because he knew that everyone would
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: be like the sky is falling and he knew it wasn't.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: But when he was winning, everyone wanted to, you know,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: circle jerk each other and call them the greatest thing
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: since slice bread. That's when he was on one. That
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: to me is always a good coach. When Goadell was
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: looking to expand internationally, couldn't he treat host cities his
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: feeder teams for the full thirty two almost like the
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: NFL G league. That's the NFL is not in the
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: business of doing minor leagues. They're not going to pay
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: for that because college is already doing that for them
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: and they don't have to pay for it. So anything
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: the NFL does, like truly invest in, it's gonna be
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: to benefit their bottom line because the expense is to
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: run a minor league team or a feeder system team
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: is still pretty expensive. So it's like, well, college is
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: already doing that for us. Maybe the NFL indirectly invested
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: in the UFL some of that stuff, which doesn't really
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: work commercially at all to a level of like is
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: it making millions of dollars. I don't think it is.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I don't you know, I know sneaky. More people than
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: you think watch one of those games. But I just
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: if the NFL is gonna go international, it's not gonna
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: be because they did it once upon a time. It
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: was called the NFL Europa. It's like, we're out of Vinitary,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: gotta start. Kurt Warner. I think a lot of guys
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: back in the nineties, I think are cool that would
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: have been. It's like, you know, it's kind of like
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: playing in Europe if you're a basketball player and you
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: can't make the NBA, Like, yeah, I'm gonna go play
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: in Spain. It's so yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: play in Amsterdam for a couple of years. Sometimes in
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: nineties you just look back simpler times nine or fan
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: follow the team very closely. It feels like all the
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: local beat reporters have been kind of impressed with Kaylon Black,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the running back from Indiana. But I remember basically the
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: entire media and everyone on the internet honestly except you,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: blasting the Niners for that pick. The criticism seemed reasonable,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: giving Black's age and the fact that SF wastes a
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: pick on a running back every single year if he
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: does end up working out. What explains the harsh takes
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: on the pick? Is it literally as simple as quote,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: works great for Kyle, wouldn't for everyone else? Or is
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: it his age? Feel like would jump at signing a
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: twenty four year old free agent running back? Why do
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: they care if they use a draft pick on one?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Was his college tape just not that flashy. I remember
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Washington toward the end of the season thinking, like, God,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: this guy's pretty good. Runs his ass off. I remember
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: hearing some of their assistant coaches talk about, like what
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: he did on tape they thought translated to what they did.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I think a part of the criticism in like niner
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Land is they've drafted a million running backs in the
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: third round. They've all been disastrous, you know, starting with
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: the Joe Williams pick originally to Trey Sermon, to Grendo,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: just none of them work out. I do think there
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: was kind of consensus, you know, in a draft that
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: kind of sucks once you get past like the top
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: one hundred. What pick was he they took him pick ninety.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people thought that he was
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent. I do think and listen. I
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: talked to teams that had him as an undrafted free agent.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: So when you get teams that'd have guys, and these
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: teams say that or tell people that. I don't think
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: he went to the combine all from his pro day.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: You know, he's five to nine, ran a four to four,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: pretty thick. He actually was a decent receiver for James Madison,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: but he had eight catches in his two years. I
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: don't know. I thought he's a good player. I could
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: he gone in the fifth round to some team? Yeah,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't get as caught up with that. Honestly,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I think anytime you don't go to the combine, a
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: lot of teams didn't view you there. The consensus, I
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: think there are a lot of factors. I was listening
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: to your pod where you talked about international expansion. I
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: was thinking, if they could get the cities lined out,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: wouldn't it financially and logistically make more sense to add
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: eight teams in the cities they plan London, Munich, Barcelona,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: et cetera, and just add two divisions AFC and NFC.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Those markets are big and I'm sure they would be
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: able to find owners to do it. I understand the
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: talent pool is an issue, but over the course of time,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: you would think that international pool of players would improve.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this actually. Think of some of
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: the owners in the NFL that were hard on the Bengals,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Cardinals, guys cheap and it typically is
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: like the Bears like a mom and pop shop. The
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Lions Forever, it's like mom and pop shop. Do you
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: know what their biggest advantages? The Davis family Forever, it's
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: like they all bought these teams back when they were
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: like ten dollars. I think I told the story about
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: walking around in Newport Beach and seeing some of these
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: homes worth like forty fifty million dollars. They just had
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: open parking in front of their house. Like God, that
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: would suck. You gotta pay these premials. There were also
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: homes when I was like Maria, google that and she'd
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: be like, you know what they bought this for. I'd
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: be like, what, thirty million dollars. She'd be like, no,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one, they bought this thing for nine
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five thousand dollars. Your entry point when
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: someone told me this a long time ago, and they're right.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: When you profit on an asset, it's not in the
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: sales price, it's at the purchase price. Like when you
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: make a lot of money in the stock or a home,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Obviously you get cashed out when you sell it, but
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: your profit margin comes with what you bought it for.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: It's why they say in recessions like that's when fortunes
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: are made because things are cheap. And some of these
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: people like it's this Laker situation with Mark Walter, which
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: is pretty complicated. I love finance, and even I'm like,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I don't quite understand at all. Clearly there's some regulations
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: with the insurance industries. He feels like he's run a
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: little bit of a fugazi because he's moving money from
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: companies that you're legally not supposed to move money from.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: But again, I get to a point like I don't
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: care that much, but the reality is there are only
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: so many rich people who also want to be in sports,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: and now the price points for these teams, like what
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: did Al Davis? What did the Hunts? Jed York, who's
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: ran the team with his parents since Eddie de Bartolo
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: got in trouble in the late nineties. Eddie bought the
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: team in like nineteen seventy seven. They don't have a
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: mortgage payment on this thing. They ain't paying loans to
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: pay for this thing. In anything. They just sell off
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: pieces sometimes to get cash infusions. You see the Lakers
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: and some of these teams, like these people buying these franchises.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I know the Internet, and you know, politically rich people
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: just you know, depending on what crowd you run with
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: or the devil most rich people. I don't know billionaires,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: been around some successful people. It's not like if the
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: guys worth one hundred million dollars, he's got seventy five
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: of it in cash in the bank. It's not usually
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: how it works. So when you get these guys at
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: the extraordinary wealth, their money is in assets. Now some
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: of them it's also in stock, which depending on your
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: situation with that company, you can sell at any moment.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: But I do think it complicates a little bit, Like
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know all that, Like can David Tepper just
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: if he owns a large percentage, or can they just
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: sell whatever they want whenever they want? Maybe they can.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: But David Tepper and Steve Balmer paid cash paid cash
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: for their teams. Steve Balmer he paid two. I think
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I saw he's worth one hundred and fifty. David Tepper
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: got I don't know what he got the pants for
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: two or three, three or four, Like could have bought
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: it for eight and pay cash. I remember when he
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: bought the Panthers, it was like, yeah, he just did
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: a he needed a little cash infusion. So he sold
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: about nine hundred million dollars in apple stock. I'm like,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: that's got to feel pretty good. But my point is
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: that I think it's really complicated the sports landscape with
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: just the value of these things, right, it becomes much
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: more difficult. It's like, look at the housing market just
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: in general. Right, the luxury is a little unique depending
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: on where you're at, Right, they're gonna be you know, Miami, Florida,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: or the Hampton's or you know Newport Beach or you know,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: you pick some of the sweetest areas in America. Like
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: if a house goes on for outrage, Rogers's listed his
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: house for forty two million dollars in Malibu, probably find
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: a buyer. I don't know what the what he's gonna
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: end up selling it for. It is a little different
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: when and again, some of those people can leverage money
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: from their assets. None of these people are paying cash.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Most of these people are leveraging assets to purchase these teams.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: So like, okay, eight teams, Well, what would the NFL be? Okay,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: let's just send a standard for the rate ten billion
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: a team. Let's just say they said that, I'm just
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: picking a number ten billion a team, So eighty billion dollars?
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Could they one hundred percent? No problem? Find eight people
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: or just eight groups that they feel comfortable with that
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: aren't Mark Walters types that just make you a little
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable now looking at it. That could could buy that
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: and not clearly on tilt, because what if shit hits
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: the fan when everyone's on tilt and on leverage from
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: taking all It's it's one thing. Money's all relative, right.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I've been uncomfortable at point in time in my life
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: with bills that are like two grand, right, or you know,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: for paying rent stuff like that. It's like what am
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I gonna do? It's it's the same feeling, or we
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: can't sleep at night if that number is one hundred million,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: it's all the same. You could say the difference it
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: would be easier at the lower rates if you know
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: the right people to call and ask for some help. Like,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: no one can really help you when it's like, hey, Mark,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: you're gonna need a billions of dollars back in that
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: account or you're gonna go to jail. So I think
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: it's really gotten complicated on the amount in which these
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: teams are valued. It's like when you move into a neighborhood,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: if you it's back to the Newport Beach thing. When
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I see the guy that owned the bought the house
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: for a million dollars, who now has house, let's say,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: is thirty x. There's a chance that that that guy
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: his dad could have just like ran a small business
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: and pulled it off forty years ago, right and overextended himself,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: but was able to pull it off decent chance. Some
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: of these people in some of these neighborhoods could never
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: afford to live there. It was the Palisade fire thing
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: in La. It was like when all those houses burned down,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: everyone was like, it's just rich people. It's like, no,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: it's a ton of like normal people who had owned
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: the house for a long long time, who just got
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: into that neighborhood way before it became slanky and everyone
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: wanted to live there. Kind of the NFL when the
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Hunts and the Davis families and Eddie de Bartelow and
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: you just go around the league, the Maras, the mccaskey's,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: the Fords, some of these people got in the NFL,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: and like the fifties and sixties and seventies, it wasn't
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: exactly of like, you guys are gonna be some of
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: the richest people in the world. You guys are gonna
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: have fucking megayachts. I saw a clip of Jerry's yacht,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: but you think Jerry was thinking about buying a yacht
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: when he let was leveraged to the Hills to buy
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the late eighties. The money wasn't like that,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: So I think that's really complicated everything. What do you
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: think about Caleb Downs plus seven fifty to win Defensive
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Rookie the Year. I know a safety has never won it,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: but I feel like he's won. Great talent, best chance
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Famer in the class, but
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: also the fact that he's on the Cowboys biggest draw
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: rating wise. I don't hate it. I don't hate it
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: at all. I'd have to go back and look at
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: like the last ten rookies of the year, like do
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: you need to defense rookies of the year, Like do
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: you need to be on a good team? Because if
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: you don't need to be on a good team, then
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: like last year, Sweassenger winning on the Browns previous year,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Verse the Rams world playoff team, previous year, Will Anderson
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: on the Texans, I'm not sure they were good that year.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner on the Jets, they clearly weren't. Michaeh Parsons
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: on the Cowboys. I think they went to the playoffs
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: that year. Chase Young on Washington they might have got
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: the playoffs that year too. Nick Bosa on the Niners.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: They were good. They went to the super Bowl that year.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Chack on the Colts, I think they were pretty good.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Latimore on the Saints, they were good. Joey Bosa on
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: the Chargers sixteen, Marcus Peters Chiefs, Donald Saint Louis Rams.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: You either got to be exceptional like an Aaron Donald
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: in the Rams, or be like a high end player
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: on a playoff team like Latimore, Bosa, Micah Parsons. So
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: to me, if the Cowboys win like eleven games, or
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: win the wild card or win the division. But he
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: also had to produce at the Saint, Like can he
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: give me five picks? Could he have a bunch of
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: sweet stats? Could he have some big moments and some
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: big games? That helps as well. I do just think
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: the valuation of these teams like they've kind of crossed
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: the threshold of what if. I mean, how many people
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: could even begin to even contemplate affording this. I mean,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: look at Bob Eiger, who I don't know him beside
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: like his name and know that he ran Disney forever.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: One skill that guy clearly has, and I think you
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: have to have this skill to be a dominant CEO
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: that's not a founder. Is like, you got to be
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: like a politician. And part of being a politician is
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: like I listen, everyone's personalities are different. But it's like,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: does Bob Iger actually like all these people that he
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: pretends to like or is it just kind of his move?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just maybe I'm just a shitty person. I'm like,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's possible to like that many people.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: But he's really good at getting the right people to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: really like him, and that is a skill, and so
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: he gets Kushner, who's the one providing the money. It's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: not like I gress billions of dollars, but Igre gets
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: to be the front guy, Like that is a skill.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: But like Bob Eiger by himself couldn't do it. Like
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady's clearly friends with these guys that kind of
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: brought him on, and Mark Davis actually the one that
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: reached out to him. But like Tom doesn't have the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: money to ever be the lead guy in one of
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: these things because it's so expensive. Even if he took
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: you a couple hundred million dollars, which I would imagine cash,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: would be a large percentage of his net worth. What
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: is that by either raiders if they're nine ten billion
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: dollar franchise? Remember Mark Davis tried to let Tom in
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: at a reduced price, like hey, I'll give you a
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: percent or two at a number that's lower than the valuation.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: The NFL went no, that is not allowed, which I
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: don't blame him, like we can't be setting precedent to
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: get our buddies involved in this, and two like we
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: don't don't do that, Like we that can't happen. Would
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: have been a pretty sweet deal for for Tom. I
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: was thinking, if you go back John Elway, remember something
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: happened he was offered equity in the Denver Broncos and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: he turned it down. I forget exactly the situation. I'd
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: have to refresh my memory, but that this is like
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: the nineties, late nineties, I mean mid nineties when the
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: situation happened. Maybe it was right after he retired and
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: he said no, I mean because all this stuff changed
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: so dramatically, and now the power of sports. Someone told
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: me that's in like the finance kind of world that
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: get ready for these AI companies. They're gonna get in
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: one into the sports world, whether that's you have to
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: go to Chad GBT to watch a game, because they're
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: gonna want people to go there. Like that's why Amazon
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: primes in the NFL business. They want people to use
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: go to Amazon Prime, right, they want people to use Amazon.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: And once you get Amazon Prime, you get free shipping,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: you're more likely to use Like, it's all a big
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: game the NFL. When you're a company as big as
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Amazon or what some of these AI companies can potentially
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: become Netflix likes. It's a big picture play. And this
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: gets back to these guys bouncing around between college and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: the pro Sometimes it's hard when you're young to have
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: a big picture mindset. I can't imagine paying cash for
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: an NFL team. It's got to be just an exhilarating feeling.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: You get charged a three percent fee on the wire
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: transfer on that one, or the bank wave it. I
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: think once you're that big for whatever bank you're with,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I think they wave all your fees. Actually I know
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: they do, and they provide you better mortgage is it's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: a hack you provide that much cash for them that
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: many holdings, you'll you'll never see the word service fee
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: on one of your transactions. What point can we get
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: a big skeptical about what we hear from camp versus
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: what's actually going on. Knowing the Niners have a ridiculous
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: injury history, I feel like McCaffrey and Bosa rumblings of
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: being injured versus wanting more money is now par for
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: how this team operates. At what point will Lynch bring
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: the hammer down or is it now par for the course.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: It's part of the NFL, you know, speculation on contract improvements,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: guaranteed money, future guaranteed money. Two guys that have been injured,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Like I think they're all factored in. I think a
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: lot of conversations that happen in training camp never get
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: discussed again once the season starts. Beside, like, we've had
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: some major injuries, right, the Texans just lost a young
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: stud wide receiver towards ACL. The Chargers and the Ravens
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: lost centers to pretty big injuries in some of these
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: joint practices, So like those to me matter, I would
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: say the number one thing that matters the most in
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: training camp like ac L injuries, serious injuries that lead
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: into Week one, like Jeremiah Love in terms of like
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: brock perty was good at practice or so and so's
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: not good at practice. Like once you're an established player
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: like Dexter Lawrence dominating a practice, well yeah, I mean
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence tries, he dominates everybody. You know, it's like
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: you just I think you gotta be careful about making
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: like how good is the team because individual practice plays
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: are much different, even in joint practice, are different than
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: regular season games. So it just comes with the territory.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: It's fun to talk about, but a lot of it
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: and it's all we can talk about because it's literally
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: going on. But then when the season starts. It doesn't
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: matter as much unless, like last year, Stafford his back.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: It's like, what's up on his back? Is he gonna
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: be able to play? It was fair to assume, like
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: what if his back is shot? And then he just
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: played and won the MVP like that literally happened. I
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: was like, the Rams are screwed and then he's fucking
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: throwing no look passes every week, just slinging it. Uh,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: wend on that have a great weekend. Talk to everyone soon,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: see you later. The volume