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Devout The Book And EP From Singer Songwriter David Archuleta · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 2: Hi, Errow, how are you doing today? Thank you? How
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  Speaker 2: are you?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic. I gotta tell you something. I love the
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  Speaker 1: fact that you have put this up on audible and
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  Speaker 1: you've already recorded the story. It's so important. And the
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  Speaker 1: reason why is because I'm one of those readers. When
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  Speaker 1: I'm reading it, it's of course the voices that I
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  Speaker 1: hear are in my head, but well, to go and
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  Speaker 1: listen to it after I've read a chapter, it gives
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  Speaker 1: me that opportunity to really kind of get even a
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  Speaker 1: deeper purpose in the plan that you put on those pages. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it just gives me a different dimension to look at.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just so proud of you for doing devout
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  Speaker 1: like that, that you that we have a choice and
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  Speaker 1: that we can take it in in any different form.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. Yeah, it was, it was It was cool.
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  Speaker 3: It was interesting to read it out loud after writing it,
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  Speaker 3: and if anything, that felt like it was like completing
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  Speaker 3: the experience of writing it by reading it out loud,
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  Speaker 3: And it was really healing to read out loud too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did you find yourself wanting to edit it still, because
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  Speaker 1: you know how we creative people are, We are never satisfied.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, oh, like, there is like a
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  Speaker 3: few typos that I was finally catching as I read
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  Speaker 3: it out loud.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, I love that in there.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, but overall, I was really happy with how
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  Speaker 3: it turned out. It was a very fulfilling to see
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  Speaker 3: how it all came together.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you talk about the comments in a sentence and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and that instantly reminds me of Mark Twain because he
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  Speaker 1: said that we should be writing in our own accent
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  Speaker 1: and in the words. As writers, we know how to
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  Speaker 1: write in our own way, and sometimes I think that
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  Speaker 1: when we put in the proper punctuation, it takes away
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  Speaker 1: from the element of how we were trying to express ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: But if it's done properly. It's like, oh, now I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking like Johnny Joe over here in Boston. I want
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  Speaker 1: to be David Archie letta man where I could just
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  Speaker 1: sit there and just you know, and bring it out
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  Speaker 1: because you do you have a rhythm about your way
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  Speaker 1: of speaking, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I tried.
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  Speaker 3: I did write the book with an audiobook in mind.
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  Speaker 3: I had always wanted to do the audiobook with it,
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  Speaker 3: so I was like, Okay, how is this going to
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  Speaker 3: sound if I said it like I really wanted it
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  Speaker 3: to feel conversational and like I was talking to the
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  Speaker 3: reader as if I were just having lunch with them
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  Speaker 3: and getting into a deep comfo over some food. So
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  Speaker 3: that's and I think that's what was so satisfying about
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  Speaker 3: recording the audiobook version, is that it felt like it
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  Speaker 3: was That's what it was accomplishing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The name of the book is devout losing my
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  Speaker 1: faith to find myself, which is powerful because how many
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  Speaker 1: people right now are moving through this, David, And you're
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  Speaker 1: the one that's saying, by the way, guys, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying that I am the leader, but I have experienced it.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of knowledge I got going
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  Speaker 1: on in this game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: I was really I was really devout to my beliefs,
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  Speaker 3: and I loved a lot of things about it. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, some sometimes it's it's right for people to
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  Speaker 3: continue in their faith and what they grew up in
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of and sometimes it's the right thing
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  Speaker 3: for people to move on and to transition out of it.
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  Speaker 3: And I think people who grow up in religion and
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  Speaker 3: in that community that you grew up and may ask
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  Speaker 3: why and say, well, why, how could you leave? And
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  Speaker 3: this is the best thing you can have, the most
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  Speaker 3: important thing could have. Why would you leave it? And
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  Speaker 3: if anything, they think like, wow, you're you're falling. You're
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  Speaker 3: falling by I mean. And I think I tried to
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  Speaker 3: explain that as well, say, you know, it may be
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  Speaker 3: the right thing for some people to stay, and it
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  Speaker 3: also may be the right thing for some people to
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  Speaker 3: step away. And I tried to help people understand who
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  Speaker 3: may wonder that, like this is this is why.
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  Speaker 2: And I think when people read it, I think.
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  Speaker 3: They'll be like, oh, okay, you know, I understand now
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  Speaker 3: why some people do make that transition and why that
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  Speaker 3: may be the best thing for them. Because it's a
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  Speaker 3: complicated it's a complicated situation, and sometimes you know, you
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  Speaker 3: don't understand every moving piece that's happening. And I think
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  Speaker 3: with my situation, I was I was a very well
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  Speaker 3: known person in my church, in the Church of Jesus
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  Speaker 3: Ice the Latter day Saints Mormon Church, and so I
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  Speaker 3: had a very close relationship with a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: leaders in my church. And I think that also made
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  Speaker 3: it a bit complicated for me as well.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think the right thing for me to
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  Speaker 2: do was to step away. Well.
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  Speaker 1: See, and what I've always liked, David, is the fact
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  Speaker 1: that when you went onto American Idol, you were introduced
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  Speaker 1: to the real church, which is the community, which is
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  Speaker 1: every person that was watching. They were rich, they were poor,
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  Speaker 1: they were white, they were black, they were big, they
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  Speaker 1: were tall, they were fat, they were skinny. And I'm going,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, this has exactly remove the walls of
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  Speaker 1: the church and step into the real community. So I've
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  Speaker 1: always thought of you as being You're doing exactly what
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  Speaker 1: you've been called to do. You just don't have a
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  Speaker 1: building to go to. You've got the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, I think that's what was really beautiful with music
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  Speaker 3: is music does feel like, oh, like a like a church,
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  Speaker 3: like a church experience, because I feel like it's about community,
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  Speaker 3: It's about connecting and connecting to something that's bigger than you,
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  Speaker 3: something greater than like everyone's connecting to something bigger than themselves.
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  Speaker 3: I really felt that, like when I was singing, especially
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  Speaker 3: when I sang one Week for seventies Week America Imagine
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  Speaker 3: by John Lennon on American Idol, and.
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  Speaker 2: Yes it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was so interesting to me because even though it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't a song, it wasn't even a song about REALI
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was about religion in a way, but
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't a religious like, it wasn't a church hymn song.
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  Speaker 3: It was a song that kind of stepped away from that.
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  Speaker 3: And by stepping away from it, I felt like it
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  Speaker 3: was a way of allowing everyone.
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  Speaker 2: To connect to a moment so much more than.
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  Speaker 3: If you sang just to him, because it allowed everyone
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  Speaker 3: from all different walks of life, all different places, and
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  Speaker 3: of whether they were with faith and church still or not,
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  Speaker 3: that it allowed everyone to step into a moment together
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  Speaker 3: and to this kind of like be a part of
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  Speaker 3: that moment because it's like I was just I was
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  Speaker 3: a contestant on the show that everyone was watching, and
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  Speaker 3: it allowed all of us to kind of have this
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  Speaker 3: moment with each other and it was really special.
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  Speaker 2: It was really beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's so many things here that are invisible in
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  Speaker 1: the way of you preaching and teaching, but without throwing
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  Speaker 1: it down our throats, you know, because sometimes you know,
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to that, you know, people have to go, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you got to do it this way, this way, this way.
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  Speaker 1: And I love the way that because there are many
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  Speaker 1: times inside this book that I'm going you remind me
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  Speaker 1: so much of Peter and at the same time you
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  Speaker 1: remind me of Paul, because Paul was not a church
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  Speaker 1: guy before Paul became Paul and everybody started to idolize Paul.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what I love about this is that you
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  Speaker 1: give us that opportunity that you came from such a
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  Speaker 1: strong religious background. But at the same time, that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean you have to stay there. Now it's time to
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  Speaker 1: go exercise the lessons that you've learned, and that's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing. And to put it on a page
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly what you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: That's very interesting. Yeah, I definitely didn't look at it
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  Speaker 2: that way before.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're opening your door. I mean, Julia Cameron
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  Speaker 1: would say, you're cleaning out your closet and and and
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  Speaker 1: doing so. While you were writing this, did you create
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  Speaker 1: new music, because I'll tell you when my heart starts
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  Speaker 1: singing big time when I'm writing something that takes a
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  Speaker 1: long time to put on the page.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, actually yeah, I wrote.
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  Speaker 2: An EP that's also called Devout.
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  Speaker 3: So there's about the book and then there's about the EPs.
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  Speaker 2: Three songs that.
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  Speaker 3: Came out while I was I mean, I wrote them
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  Speaker 3: while I was writing the book, and it was it
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  Speaker 3: was kind of a way of completing the processing the
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  Speaker 3: emotions that I was I sing while writing the book.
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  Speaker 3: It was like a way of completing completing up that processing.
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  Speaker 2: And it was so I.
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  Speaker 3: Was like, Okay, I'm like I need to release these
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  Speaker 3: because they're part of the book too, and they're they're released,
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  Speaker 3: they're really special to me, just like the book is.
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  Speaker 2: And so there's three of them.
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  Speaker 3: One of them is called Old and Young, another one's
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  Speaker 3: called Stay, and then the other one is called on Purpose.
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  Speaker 3: So they're they're all they all tie into the theme,
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  Speaker 3: the story and plot of the book, and I feel
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  Speaker 3: like they're they're a way to resolve a lot of
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  Speaker 3: the emotions and different parts of of the story of
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  Speaker 3: where like I had not yet resolved gotten to that
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  Speaker 3: resolution yet. The songs are kind of like a response
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  Speaker 3: to my younger self, like like kind of words of
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  Speaker 3: encouragement as I'm in the journey that I am in
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  Speaker 3: the book.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but see and and I and I truly
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  Speaker 1: love that. And I felt that because I mean, when
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  Speaker 1: when you get to my age, then you start going,
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  Speaker 1: wait a second, I need to write a love letter
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  Speaker 1: to that younger self that I once was, because I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten here without them. And I see that
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  Speaker 1: in your story. If you would not have taken a chance,
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  Speaker 1: and more importantly, if you would have chosen to ignore Jeanette,
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  Speaker 1: this book would not be happening. And that to me
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  Speaker 1: is so important as an author as well as a writer,
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  Speaker 1: because you you listen to the people around you, because
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  Speaker 1: sometimes they do know what they're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they really they do.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess that's interesting because you can choose how
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  Speaker 3: to interact with the you choose how to interact with
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  Speaker 3: what's around you, and you know it's and it's interesting
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  Speaker 3: because you know there can be multiple outcomes to the story,
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  Speaker 3: like you could if you make this choice, you could
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  Speaker 3: go one direct direction a and with outcome A and
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  Speaker 3: and you could also end up going to like making
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  Speaker 3: another choice and end up with outcome be And so
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  Speaker 3: I feel like Jeanette was a way of kind of
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  Speaker 3: you know, taking another route with telling my story. It's
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  Speaker 3: and the way that I got to tell my like
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  Speaker 3: to write the book and to tell the story, and
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  Speaker 3: the team I worked with and the support.
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  Speaker 2: I felt as I went through the whole process.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean Jenna even writing her book, she wrote
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  Speaker 3: a memoir called I'm Glad my Mom died. And I
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  Speaker 3: think reading her book inspired me a lot to to
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  Speaker 3: honestly tell to tell my story in a more honest
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  Speaker 3: and vulnerable way, because she definitely was very honest, but
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  Speaker 3: she also found like on her way to cope with
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  Speaker 3: it with humor and also just like she has a dark,
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  Speaker 3: dark humor and the way she goes about things, and
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  Speaker 3: I it taught me like a new way of looking
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  Speaker 3: at someone telling their story but also having a lot
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  Speaker 3: of common things. Because she also grew up Mormon, she
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  Speaker 3: got into the spotlight as a teenager as well, and
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  Speaker 3: she had a difficult, complicated relationship with her mom, just
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  Speaker 3: like I did with my dad, So which is why
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  Speaker 3: we had we connected in a lot of different ways,
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  Speaker 3: and why she felt like she wanted me to have
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  Speaker 3: that same experience of being able to heal and liberate
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  Speaker 3: yourself by telling your story, because that's what she was experiencing.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm really grateful that she wanted to pass.
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  Speaker 3: That on to me and share that experience by just
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  Speaker 3: providing me with the right resources to tell my story.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't move. There's more with David Archiletta coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: The name of his book is devot as is his
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  Speaker 1: new EP, Losing Faith to find Myself. We are back
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  Speaker 1: with David Archiletta. As popular as you've been, and oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, dude, I mean, and you had fans and
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  Speaker 1: followers and new explorers and people that are still going
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  Speaker 1: to chat GPT looking for your name. They've got all
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  Speaker 1: of that, and now we have the book and I'm going,
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  Speaker 1: thank God in Heaven did he finally put this book
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  Speaker 1: out here, because all of that other digital stuff, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's click bait and what's not. At least
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  Speaker 1: if it's in this book, I can believe it and
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  Speaker 1: I can trust it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Yeah, it was. I think it's a cool
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  Speaker 2: way to let people see you.
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  Speaker 3: For who, for who you how you really see yourself
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  Speaker 3: and I'm telling it in your own words and let
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  Speaker 3: them step into your world for a little bit, and
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  Speaker 3: which I think is cool. And the fact that people
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  Speaker 3: are interested enough to step into my world in itself,
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  Speaker 3: I think is a really special and cool experience.
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  Speaker 1: You talk about something here, and I'm going to add
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  Speaker 1: something to it, and that is is that you're very
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  Speaker 1: open and transparent with the word worthlessness, and because a
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  Speaker 1: lot of creative people go through that. But at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, in doing my studies for a project I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing for iHeart, and that is is that I believe
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  Speaker 1: that creativity people go through loneliness as well. So when
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  Speaker 1: I saw you talking about worthlessness in here, I'm going,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, they've got to walk side by side together,
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  Speaker 1: and how can we get creative people to understand it's
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  Speaker 1: just part of the process of bringing art forward?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Worthlessness?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've you always I think people always question their
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  Speaker 3: they're worth yea, and if their craft.
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  Speaker 2: Is even any good?
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's I think even just that just
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  Speaker 3: being honest about that and say it out loud helps
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  Speaker 3: people feel seen because it's like, Okay, I'm not the
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  Speaker 3: only one who feels this way, because I think you
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  Speaker 3: look at another creator, for example, and say, wow, like
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  Speaker 3: I love what they do and it's so inspiring to
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  Speaker 3: me when they do it, and then you hear how
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  Speaker 3: they feel like their.
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  Speaker 2: Craft is.
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  Speaker 3: Can like junk even, or like that it's not worth releasing,
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  Speaker 3: or it's like they wasted their time or it didn't
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  Speaker 3: wasn't anything that they wanted it to be, and you
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  Speaker 3: look at them and you're like, wait a.
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  Speaker 2: Second, like that's how I feel. But I'm so.
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  Speaker 3: Inspired by what they do and they think it's they
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  Speaker 3: think that what they do is worthless, but I find
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  Speaker 3: so much worth into it. So it's very interesting how
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  Speaker 3: we can get in our own way so much because
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  Speaker 3: of the insecurities that we face.
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  Speaker 1: Did the David who put this book together leave any
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  Speaker 1: messages for the future, David.
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  Speaker 3: Oh goodness, I yes, I would say there are some
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  Speaker 3: moments of there are moments of inspiration that you get
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  Speaker 3: and some moments of clarity where you just realize, in
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  Speaker 3: case I forget.
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  Speaker 2: Let me put this down on paper.
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  Speaker 3: So that it's a reminder and you know, you go
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  Speaker 3: back and it's like, oh, I'm like wow, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm so glad that I wrote that down because I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't I didn't. I forgot and I didn't remember it.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, there's definitely those moments, especially like you know,
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  Speaker 3: you do that as a you know, writing music as well,
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  Speaker 3: where it's like you have this moment of inspiration and
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  Speaker 3: it feels so good and you feel so in like
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  Speaker 3: in your groove, and you know, time life happens, you
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  Speaker 3: go through emotions and you get stuck and you get
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  Speaker 3: in a funk you and you don't really see things clearly,
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  Speaker 3: even though you know at one point you did and
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  Speaker 3: prior so you look back and sometimes I'll even like
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  Speaker 3: intimidate myself where I'm like, how how did I have
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  Speaker 3: that clarity then?
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  Speaker 2: And where did it go?
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  Speaker 3: Because I don't. I don't feel it anymore and I
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  Speaker 3: don't know where how to get it back. But it's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, I didn't think. I wasn't thinking so
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  Speaker 3: much at the time, and it was there. I'm still
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  Speaker 3: who I am, and so I can do it again.
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  Speaker 3: So and it's scary because sometimes I'm like, oh, I peaked.
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  Speaker 3: There's never I won't be able to get back to
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  Speaker 3: that point. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, you've got to come back to this show anytime
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  Speaker 1: in the future.
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  Speaker 2: David.
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  Speaker 1: The door is always always going to be open if
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  Speaker 1: you ever come to the Carolina says, well, we got
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  Speaker 1: to get together for a face to face dude.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh hey, that would that sounds great.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds great to do.
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  Speaker 1: Will you be Brillian. Today's sharing your journey and story
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  Speaker 1: with everybody that's got a ton of questions that you
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen yet. And yet you've got to face that
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: fire and you did quite well. Dude, you did quite well.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Thank you.