Latest / Brian Thomas / Keegan Corcoran - Wine pairings after election defeat
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Eighty nine at fifty five KRC detalk station slight dramatic
- 0:09Speaker 1: build up in anticipation of post election defeat. Wine choices
- 0:15Speaker 1: in studio the fifty five KRC residents Samier, we keep
- 0:19Speaker 1: them parked in a closet Keegan Corcorand no, actually he's
- 0:21Speaker 1: from Magnician wines Win Wine Wholesaler. Keegan is almost as
- 0:25Speaker 1: high as you can get in terms of standings globally
- 0:27Speaker 1: for Samier, he is just below the highest most lofty
- 0:33Speaker 1: status ever. You're one of four hundred six hundred roughly,
- 0:36Speaker 1: and what's the level advanced Saier Advance and then there's master, right, Yeah, okay,
- 0:42Speaker 1: so somedays the snobbery only increases from here. Oh lord almighty,
- 0:46Speaker 1: you won't even be in the same room at me
- 0:47Speaker 1: with Matt. I read the tests questions, Yeah, your dad
- 0:51Speaker 1: sent them over to me or your mind?
- 0:53Speaker 2: Really? Yeah?
- 0:54Speaker 1: Yeah, the fifty pages single space questions, like you know,
- 0:59Speaker 1: I just it is the most insane amount of volume
- 1:01Speaker 1: of information. I could not believe the stuff you're supposed
- 1:04Speaker 1: to know for that test.
- 1:05Speaker 2: Those were if he sent you the file.
- 1:08Speaker 3: I'm thinking because my dad and my mom, But my
- 1:12Speaker 3: dad was the one who was like reading the questions
- 1:13Speaker 3: for me, like in preparation leading up to the exam,
- 1:17Speaker 3: the Masters of the Exam, which yes, at for in April,
- 1:21Speaker 3: you know that. That is yeah, single space questions and
- 1:25Speaker 3: it's about seven I think it's about seventy five pages.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Yes, that's total. That's just the the written part.
- 1:33Speaker 3: Well, that's just me like transponting my note cards for
- 1:36Speaker 3: this exam to that. So the volume information extends out
- 1:41Speaker 3: beyond further than that, Yes, certainly, just stuff. You know,
- 1:44Speaker 3: there's no point for me like to burn questions that
- 1:47Speaker 3: I already know. So it's you know, the theory is anyways,
- 1:50Speaker 3: like once you start to really cement the information, you
- 1:52Speaker 3: can start eliminating questions and then hopefully you know, minimize
- 1:58Speaker 3: your quote unquote deck.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Yeah questions.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Well that's why there are only four hundred of them
- 2:02Speaker 1: in the planet because looking at those questions, we're all
- 2:05Speaker 1: nuts and you are so many people you are absolutely
- 2:08Speaker 1: insane wine people. But congratulations, I'm glad we have folks
- 2:11Speaker 1: like that. You will pass at some point, and most
- 2:13Speaker 1: people do not pass their first, second, third, fourth time.
- 2:16Speaker 1: It's just the extraordinary challenge in studio. Also, I can remember,
- 2:20Speaker 1: look Thomas Woodley, who's here from Lydian Winery, which is
- 2:24Speaker 1: located in outside of Seattle, Washington, and he's brought some selections.
- 2:28Speaker 1: What we're doing today is using the Tuesday election, we'll
- 2:31Speaker 1: say losses. I don't even know what your political affiliation is, Thomas,
- 2:34Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But if you're reeling from an election
- 2:36Speaker 1: loss and you're feeling blue, or you're in a celebratory mood,
- 2:39Speaker 1: you want to drink something. You brought some great wines
- 2:41Speaker 1: with you to talk about today.
- 2:43Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, it's wines for every occasion. I think
- 2:47Speaker 4: either way, it's good angst relief. So that's kind of
- 2:49Speaker 4: what we're going for.
- 2:50Speaker 1: We're always looking for an excuse to drink. It's a
- 2:53Speaker 1: okay so, and you're fine doing that here in the
- 2:55Speaker 1: Morning Show. Although there are rules that prohibit the drinking
- 2:58Speaker 1: of wine in the studio, we're going to certainly by
- 3:00Speaker 1: by those rules. At least we're going to give the
- 3:01Speaker 1: perception that we are.
- 3:03Speaker 4: Uh.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Starting with.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Hold on, it's Justine. Yes, that's the name of the wine.
- 3:11Speaker 1: And remember this is a Venia winery. A ve e
- 3:15Speaker 1: n N I A I got that right, yeah, Jachima Valley,
- 3:19Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm looking at the red wine. That's not
- 3:21Speaker 1: the one we're talking about. We're on the Lydian SBS
- 3:25Speaker 1: Lydion SBS. I apologize, I'm not the Saumier. That's what
- 3:29Speaker 1: we got one here to keep me on track. So
- 3:31Speaker 1: this is a white one with an eighty percent so
- 3:35Speaker 1: on bloc and twenty percent sem semion.
- 3:37Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
- 3:38Speaker 4: And the name Lydian refers to the musical mode in
- 3:43Speaker 4: so the winery where there's six of us, half of
- 3:46Speaker 4: them are classically trained musicians, so there's a lot of
- 3:48Speaker 4: music nerds, and uh, Lydian is one of the classical
- 3:52Speaker 4: building blocks in music theory. So that scale that's on
- 3:57Speaker 4: the label is the actual Lydian mode at off. And
- 4:00Speaker 4: you can play that on piano, no kidding.
- 4:02Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I throw my what eight years of piano,
- 4:06Speaker 1: six years of trumpet, a little bit of clarinet out
- 4:08Speaker 1: the window because I never took music theory.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so you're on triangle now.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Basically I can still reach music slowly and very very painfully.
- 4:20Speaker 1: I can get through the piano still, but I don't
- 4:22Speaker 1: I don't practice much anymore. But this this wine, you know,
- 4:26Speaker 1: if I was able to taste it, I would call
- 4:27Speaker 1: it amazingly refresh refreshing, light, not dry. What would you
- 4:33Speaker 1: characterize it in terms of, you know, on a scale
- 4:36Speaker 1: of you know, really dry, too sweet?
- 4:39Speaker 2: I mean, it's.
- 4:39Speaker 4: It's it's it's technically dry in the sense that it
- 4:41Speaker 4: doesn't have a whole lot of residual sugar. But a
- 4:44Speaker 4: lot of times you get with with especially with semion,
- 4:46Speaker 4: you get like perceptible fruit sweetness. M hm. So yeah,
- 4:51Speaker 4: it's kind of always hard to parse out when you're
- 4:53Speaker 4: talking about sweetness because some people refer to actually, when
- 4:56Speaker 4: we're in the wine world, how much residual sugar is
- 4:59Speaker 4: left over from firmin I got you. So they stop
- 5:01Speaker 4: the fermentation at a certain level, you know, especially just
- 5:04Speaker 4: taking like German reesling for example, At certain levels they
- 5:07Speaker 4: stop the fermentation. Those wines have a resultant lower alcohol
- 5:14Speaker 4: ABV because some of that sugar was left to not
- 5:18Speaker 4: metabolize and stay in the wine.
- 5:20Speaker 1: That's what impacts the alcohol level.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Yep.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Okay, Because I was jokingly saying to Keegan when he
- 5:26Speaker 1: came in, I said, we're drowning our sorrows. I suspect
- 5:28Speaker 1: what you brought in are all the highest alcohol by
- 5:31Speaker 1: volume wines that are out there.
- 5:32Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean these are. This one isn't super high,
- 5:35Speaker 4: it's like thirteen percent.
- 5:36Speaker 2: But the but the.
- 5:38Speaker 4: Idea is is that when the grapes come in, when
- 5:41Speaker 4: the grapes come in ripe, they all are fully ripe
- 5:45Speaker 4: in terms of potential, sort of think of it in
- 5:48Speaker 4: terms of like high school physics, like potential and kinetic energy,
- 5:50Speaker 4: right right, And they so they have they're all fully ripe.
- 5:53Speaker 4: It's just a question of how far do you let
- 5:56Speaker 4: that sugar metabolize into alcohol during fermentation.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Okay, So one of my favorites kigging those dulcea it's
- 6:02Speaker 1: a dessert wine, ice wines, that kind of thing. They
- 6:05Speaker 1: let the grape go as far as it can go
- 6:07Speaker 1: in terms of ripening. It's almost to the point where
- 6:09Speaker 1: it's mushy.
- 6:10Speaker 4: Right Yeah, that's like would be like considered like a
- 6:12Speaker 4: late harvest. So that's even like pushing the sugar levels
- 6:15Speaker 4: beyond what a normal table wine would be, gotcha. And
- 6:19Speaker 4: then and then they still have to they still have
- 6:22Speaker 4: to ferment the hell out of it just to get
- 6:25Speaker 4: it to even that level. And typically, and typically those
- 6:29Speaker 4: wines are even more difficult to make because you have
- 6:32Speaker 4: to have really strong yeasts that are going to continue
- 6:34Speaker 4: to metabolize the sugar into alcohol.
- 6:38Speaker 1: And a huge human element in terms of harvesting too,
- 6:40Speaker 1: because you have to pick them just at the exact
- 6:42Speaker 1: right now.
- 6:42Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, or if you get into stuff that's
- 6:44Speaker 4: actual ice wine. Yeah, you know, you get you get
- 6:47Speaker 4: like in you know, they can make ice wine by
- 6:49Speaker 4: actually freezing with grapes, but it kind of is. But
- 6:53Speaker 4: but traditional ice wine extraction. Yeah, but traditional ice wine.
- 6:57Speaker 4: They they actually harvest it after the clusters have have
- 7:00Speaker 4: frozen on their own just because of weather, and then
- 7:03Speaker 4: they pick them in.
- 7:04Speaker 1: But that accounts for why they're they're comparatively expensive. Yes,
- 7:07Speaker 1: very laborious, very laborious. We're gonna continue with Thomas Woodley
- 7:11Speaker 1: and Keegan Corcoran. Keegan, you can find Kegan if you're
- 7:13Speaker 1: interested in commercial or wholesale purchases of wine, if you're
- 7:17Speaker 1: a winery or a wine store, a restaurant, anybody out
- 7:21Speaker 1: there that's interested in working with Keegan. He's amazing. He's
- 7:23Speaker 1: the greatest guy in the world. When it comes up,
- 7:25Speaker 1: you know, it's just his personality, his friendliness, his knowledge
- 7:28Speaker 1: is clearly impaccable. In ignitionwines dot com and you focus
- 7:35Speaker 1: primarily on domestic wines or because I was going to
- 7:39Speaker 1: ask you about plus I'm gonna ask you about tariffs
- 7:42Speaker 1: sure and see if that's impacted your world and given
- 7:45Speaker 1: what you sell, because I know it's a real problem
- 7:46Speaker 1: for some European wineries or things like that. So last
- 7:49Speaker 1: we'll pause, bring Keegan and Thomas back. It's eight thirty
- 7:51Speaker 1: seven right now. If do you five KCV talk station.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Something is happening.
- 7:55Speaker 4: It's time to.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Forty one.
- 7:58Speaker 1: But do you five kr CEV talk State San Brian
- 8:00Speaker 1: Thomas with resident wine ser Keegan Corkoran Intudio, Ignitionwines dot
- 8:06Speaker 1: com and one of the restaurant groups that works with Keegan.
- 8:11Speaker 1: You may have heard of, Jeff Ruby. Jeff Ruby Restaurant Keegan.
- 8:14Speaker 1: You were there for twenty years as their their head,
- 8:17Speaker 1: so may a uh not in that in that position
- 8:20Speaker 1: as beverage director for about the last eight I was
- 8:22Speaker 1: with them for twenty years. Yeah, all right, And if
- 8:24Speaker 1: you accumulated all that knowledge and experience, that's when you
- 8:26Speaker 1: broke off and decided you're going to go on your
- 8:27Speaker 1: own and do a wholesale wine and you've been very
- 8:29Speaker 1: successful that you still work with the Ruby restaurants, and
- 8:32Speaker 1: I failed to mention this amazing uh SPS from Lydian
- 8:36Speaker 1: Wine or he's Thomas Woodley in studio from Lydian is
- 8:39Speaker 1: available at E and O restaurant.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Yeah, E and O.
- 8:41Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, all three of their restaurants, and uh,
- 8:43Speaker 3: you know they do. They do a great job. Shout
- 8:46Speaker 3: out to my buddy Tim that works over there. He's
- 8:49Speaker 3: he's the man.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Tim.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Appreciate it and you're working with the right guy. Keigon
- 8:52Speaker 1: Corkoran moving over, Oh real quick on the uh Lydion SPS,
- 8:58Speaker 1: which is again the Sauvignon blancs on your own mix.
- 9:01Speaker 2: What you would you.
- 9:01Speaker 1: Recommend serving this with? It's pretty much it's just really good.
- 9:06Speaker 1: I can see this having very broad applications including like
- 9:09Speaker 1: you know, just sitting down and drinking.
- 9:11Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's great for first course. You know.
- 9:14Speaker 4: It's a day where even when you get a sunny
- 9:16Speaker 4: day like we had like yesterday, Oh yeah, just go
- 9:19Speaker 4: sit out on the back deck and enjoy it.
- 9:21Speaker 3: Thomas always brings the great weather, by the way, when
- 9:23Speaker 3: he comes in like every market visit, like Gus, the
- 9:25Speaker 3: weather is just perfect.
- 9:27Speaker 2: This is not normal I think that's I think.
- 9:28Speaker 4: That's just due to the fact that I'm a born
- 9:31Speaker 4: and raised Seattleite, and the weather gods look upon me
- 9:35Speaker 4: unfavorably most of the year being from Seattle, so I
- 9:38Speaker 4: come here they do me a solid in any place
- 9:40Speaker 4: I travel to there like, hey, you know what, We're
- 9:42Speaker 4: gonna give you some some ringer weather for a few days.
- 9:45Speaker 1: All right, Well, consider I grab the wrong wine when
- 9:47Speaker 1: I was talking about the the sbs now in hand,
- 9:52Speaker 1: the Avenia, that is the winery.
- 9:54Speaker 4: Avenni is the main winery.
- 9:56Speaker 1: Yeah, Justine is the name of the wine, and it's
- 9:58Speaker 1: it's just a described as a red wine, which I
- 9:59Speaker 1: pres is a blend.
- 10:00Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a what we call a GSM,
- 10:03Speaker 4: so it's a it's a that's sort of a catch
- 10:06Speaker 4: all term for a Southern rond blend. It's primarily almost
- 10:09Speaker 4: two thirds grenache with maved and sarrah. So we're equal
- 10:14Speaker 4: fans of Bordeaux and Roan varieties at of Ania, so
- 10:18Speaker 4: you can find examples, really beautiful examples of both great
- 10:24Speaker 4: varietal blends. And the name Justine is is a cool story.
- 10:28Speaker 4: It's there was a writer by the name of Lawrence Durell,
- 10:33Speaker 4: and he was his first book that was a part
- 10:36Speaker 4: of the Alexandria trilogy came out in nineteen fifty seven,
- 10:39Speaker 4: and Justine was the sort of mysterious heroine that he
- 10:43Speaker 4: followed around and was beguiled him. So that's why Chris
- 10:46Speaker 4: our Winemaker, who's a literary guy like me, came up
- 10:49Speaker 4: with the you guess you.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Got a fun crew over your one.
- 10:52Speaker 4: It's a fun crew. Stereo wars are a real thing, man.
- 10:54Speaker 4: I mean, you got three classically trained musicians, and Chris
- 10:57Speaker 4: and I both worked in record stores growing up. It's
- 11:00Speaker 4: it's knock down, drag out.
- 11:01Speaker 1: There's a lot of opinions I can absolutely imagine. All right,
- 11:04Speaker 1: Keegan Corcoran, since you are so amazing at breaking down flavors,
- 11:09Speaker 1: I just recounted the story about this little note. I
- 11:11Speaker 1: was thinking it was like black pepper. There was a
- 11:13Speaker 1: little bite in this wine that I really love, and
- 11:15Speaker 1: I'm like, drive me crazy, I asked Keegan. I send
- 11:18Speaker 1: him a text, what the hell is that ginger?
- 11:21Speaker 4: That's it?
- 11:21Speaker 1: That's right, because there's a bite to ginger, that ginger
- 11:23Speaker 1: flavors right there. I kind of sat for years and
- 11:26Speaker 1: thought about it. Never would have come up with that.
- 11:28Speaker 1: It took you two seconds. What would you say this
- 11:31Speaker 1: of any Justine has by way of flavor.
- 11:33Speaker 3: So I think it's a very classic interpretation of or
- 11:37Speaker 3: a domestic take on you know what Thomas said, so
- 11:40Speaker 3: rowned varieties, particularly for me, Southern Rhone, which is a classic.
- 11:44Speaker 3: So it's a part of France and the kind of
- 11:46Speaker 3: southeastern ish part of the country. But you know where
- 11:50Speaker 3: they grow a lot of grenache, Surah mor vedra, and
- 11:53Speaker 3: you know the the flavor profiles for those wines. And
- 11:56Speaker 3: then also on this wine typically is you got this
- 12:00Speaker 3: kind of brambly black blue, kind of purple fruited character
- 12:04Speaker 3: mixed with my biggest marker besides like like almost a
- 12:08Speaker 3: chewy meatiness, but my biggest marker for both that place
- 12:12Speaker 3: and then this style of wine is typically white pepper
- 12:14Speaker 3: versus like coarse black pepper, So it has like a
- 12:18Speaker 3: which anyone that cooks a lot of what there's a
- 12:20Speaker 3: difference between course of black pepper and then powder, and
- 12:24Speaker 3: and that soft note of white pepper always takes me
- 12:27Speaker 3: to not only those particular particular particular varieties, but also
- 12:31Speaker 3: a particular region too, So it helps you kind of
- 12:34Speaker 3: narrow it down and like I, you know, I like
- 12:36Speaker 3: to talk to or envision like an old timey switchboard operator.
- 12:40Speaker 2: That's usually my thing.
- 12:41Speaker 3: So like when I when I am describing how people
- 12:44Speaker 3: can make those connections in their brains, it's very similar
- 12:47Speaker 3: to that. So learning how to taste wine describe wine
- 12:49Speaker 3: aptly is very much experiential. And the more of those
- 12:53Speaker 3: dots that you connect, so again, like to the switchboard
- 12:56Speaker 3: kind of thing, imagine your you know, I know that
- 12:59Speaker 3: maybe for gins this doesn't track, but you know it does.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Right, But my audience understands where you're.
- 13:03Speaker 3: Coming, right, Yeah, But I mean, you know, if you're
- 13:05Speaker 3: the switchboard operator and the call comes in like hey,
- 13:08Speaker 3: I want to talk to banana, it's like, okay, well
- 13:09Speaker 3: I know exactly where that goes because you know, I
- 13:12Speaker 3: recognize the voice. Right, We've all had bananas a million times. Sure,
- 13:16Speaker 3: if you close your eyes and I gave you a
- 13:18Speaker 3: banana to be like, there's no doubt that this is banana. Well,
- 13:21Speaker 3: if you extrapolate that out across you know, all these
- 13:24Speaker 3: different types of fruits, flavors and then conditions. So for example,
- 13:27Speaker 3: like overripe banana, green banana, those have very different flavors
- 13:32Speaker 3: and textures. Right, Yeah, So apply that to the entire world,
- 13:35Speaker 3: which is billions and billions and billions of different you know,
- 13:38Speaker 3: flavors and whatnot. You know, you can you can build
- 13:41Speaker 3: this switchboard of like you recognize very rapidly the voices
- 13:46Speaker 3: when they call.
- 13:46Speaker 1: If that makes so, you're basically saying, we should just
- 13:49Speaker 1: keep drinking more and more and more line until we
- 13:52Speaker 1: finally can connect our switchboards and break this until the
- 13:55Speaker 1: light bulb goes.
- 13:55Speaker 4: On and while you're drinking. The other fun fact is
- 14:01Speaker 4: that when you're picking up all these flavors, you're not
- 14:04Speaker 4: picking up analogs of those flavors, the esters and flavor
- 14:09Speaker 4: combinations that are present in a berry, a grape berry,
- 14:14Speaker 4: regardless of whatever variety it is. It's the same chemical
- 14:17Speaker 4: compounds that make say, strawberry tastes like strawberry, or banana
- 14:20Speaker 4: tastes like banana. It's not reminiscent of those things. It
- 14:23Speaker 4: literally is those things.
- 14:24Speaker 1: Gotcha or snotsberry taste. No Willie Walker fans out there.
- 14:28Speaker 1: Eight forty seven will continue with Thomas Woodley and Keegan Corcoran.
- 14:32Speaker 1: Ignitionwines dot Com is where you find kee gonna be
- 14:34Speaker 1: right back in the morning. We have breaking news, comedy
- 14:38Speaker 1: rc the talk station, Hey fifty two, the fifty five
- 14:47Speaker 1: p RCD talk station Little PG there four years to
- 14:50Speaker 1: close out the morning show Here on a beautiful Friday
- 14:53Speaker 1: Eve with Keegan Corcoran from Ignition Wines online at Ignition
- 14:55Speaker 1: Wines dot com, wholesale distributor if you are interested in
- 14:58Speaker 1: wholesale purchases. He is the man uh and Thomas Woodley
- 15:01Speaker 1: from Lidion Wines. He's outside of Seattle, Washington with some
- 15:04Speaker 1: amazing wines they brought in today. Drown your sorrows or celebrate.
- 15:07Speaker 1: Either way you go. You've got outstanding options. These options
- 15:10Speaker 1: that we're dealing with today, the Avenia Justine, the Lydian
- 15:14Speaker 1: SBS and finally the Avenia grav Lura, not Guevara, the wine.
- 15:22Speaker 2: Don't tell me that, Thomas, it's not.
- 15:23Speaker 1: It's it's a political, a political grov Vora. Where'd the
- 15:27Speaker 1: name come from? This is another red wine, but it
- 15:29Speaker 1: is remarkably different in taste than the other one, even
- 15:32Speaker 1: though I'm not allowed to taste it.
- 15:33Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's so. Grava is a tribute to the
- 15:37Speaker 4: grove region of Bordeaux. So just just south of the
- 15:40Speaker 4: left bank, there's an area if you look on a
- 15:42Speaker 4: map called grove and it's gravelly soil, but it's a
- 15:46Speaker 4: place where Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlau play as kind of
- 15:51Speaker 4: equal partners.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Oh and look, it's Cabernet Sauvignon, Merlau and Cabernet franc
- 15:56Speaker 1: So perfect name.
- 15:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:58Speaker 4: So it's a it's a like quintessential Washington State Bordo blend.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Right, And if I was allowed to drink it, I
- 16:07Speaker 1: would think this will be drier than the last one
- 16:09Speaker 1: we had, which was also a red blend.
- 16:11Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, what do you apathetically?
- 16:15Speaker 1: I think every time I think of a cabernet tasting wine,
- 16:17Speaker 1: which probably this is leaning it because it has predominantly
- 16:20Speaker 1: cabernet great blend, I always think of red meat rich,
- 16:25Speaker 1: like holiday feast type food.
- 16:28Speaker 4: Oh, this is both the Justine and the Griver exceptional
- 16:32Speaker 4: holiday wines. I mean they whether you're doing turkey for
- 16:36Speaker 4: Thanksgiving or you're gonna get into a you know, standing
- 16:38Speaker 4: rib roast type scenario for Christmas time, it'll it'll absolutely
- 16:43Speaker 4: play well with both.
- 16:45Speaker 1: Okay, and note comments on this one Kegan. It's delicious.
- 16:49Speaker 2: I mean.
- 16:52Speaker 1: That's what you expect to saw to say it's delicious.
- 16:55Speaker 2: No, you know, it's a supertentious wine.
- 16:57Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know this is uh, it's the fruit
- 17:02Speaker 3: I think is softer. It has a nice mix of
- 17:04Speaker 3: like red and black fruit. But the nice thing that
- 17:08Speaker 3: I think are the the one of the main attributes
- 17:11Speaker 3: that have attracted or has attracted me to this winery
- 17:14Speaker 3: and this wine making team and the style.
- 17:16Speaker 2: Of wines that they do is they're not to hang
- 17:19Speaker 2: out with.
- 17:19Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that first and foremost, but it's you know,
- 17:22Speaker 3: they're they're wines that are they're not overt. They don't
- 17:26Speaker 3: just you know, hit you over the head with flavor
- 17:29Speaker 3: by way of like you know, that's you're only getting
- 17:32Speaker 3: one thing. There's a lot of like wines you can
- 17:33Speaker 3: call the food not overwhelmed me exactly. I mean you
- 17:36Speaker 3: can there's a lot of wines on the shelf that
- 17:38Speaker 3: certainly have their stylistic you know the places, but so
- 17:43Speaker 3: you can you can pull something off the shelf sometimes
- 17:44Speaker 3: and you and you drink and is that man, all
- 17:46Speaker 3: I get is this one thing and it's just like
- 17:49Speaker 3: it's right in the middle of the stage that kind
- 17:51Speaker 3: of thing, and that's the only thing I can focus on,
- 17:53Speaker 3: no matter what I'm eating with it. But these are
- 17:55Speaker 3: very complimentary to to food.
- 17:56Speaker 2: All right.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Other than eno restaurants where these are all served, where
- 18:00Speaker 1: else can people get them? If you want to buy
- 18:01Speaker 1: in bulk, they go through you in egnition.
- 18:03Speaker 3: But yeah, Country Fresh, jungle gyms certainly, Yeah, they're they're
- 18:09Speaker 3: they're kind of all over the place.
- 18:11Speaker 1: You're not going to experience the price point I'm going
- 18:13Speaker 1: to ask you, but not at a jungle gyms where
- 18:16Speaker 1: these might be available. What are the price points the
- 18:18Speaker 1: range for the wines that we've had here today in
- 18:20Speaker 1: front of it.
- 18:21Speaker 3: So retail, you know, talking high teens to you know,
- 18:25Speaker 3: the Griva would be closer to fifty Oh okay, you know,
- 18:30Speaker 3: well still.
- 18:30Speaker 1: Within the realm of affordability. From my standpoint, I agree
- 18:33Speaker 1: a lot cheaper than something will be imported from France,
- 18:36Speaker 1: which are subject to tariffs. I didn't get around to that,
- 18:38Speaker 1: but right, that's what does that increase the price for
- 18:43Speaker 1: what was the tariff on the like a Bordeaux or well.
- 18:45Speaker 3: So I have I have a palette of a Spanish
- 18:47Speaker 3: wine that just landed, and so now I'm looking at
- 18:49Speaker 3: you know, the ten percent, and that's and you know
- 18:51Speaker 3: it's but added on to especially for a small distributor
- 18:55Speaker 3: like myself, that that's that impacts my business in a
- 18:58Speaker 3: massive way. But then also you know Thomas is in
- 19:01Speaker 3: Washington and the business with Canada is significant. You can
- 19:04Speaker 3: speak to this better than well at a time. Sorry,
- 19:07Speaker 3: Joe's already give me the hairy eyeball. That's why I'm
- 19:09Speaker 3: sorry for waiting so long. Dance and ask the terriff question.
- 19:12Speaker 3: Keeking corkan edition of wines dot Com. Thomas Woodley, It's
- 19:15Speaker 3: been a real pleasure having you in studio. Man, you
- 19:17Speaker 3: do some great work out there. Thanks for having me
- 19:19Speaker 3: sounding a great crew too, we're good eggs.
- 19:22Speaker 1: I'm gonna change my careers, I think based upon what
- 19:24Speaker 1: you said about that place. A fifty seven jank you
- 19:26Speaker 1: Joe Strekkers second