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- 0:14Before his brutal murder, Robert Schwartz was highly successful and well known in the
- 0:18scientific community. After his wife passed away, he was left a single father
- 0:23to three children, Jesse, Katherine, Michelle, and the youngest Clara Jane.
- 0:29It was the eighth of December two thousand and one when a car full
- 0:32of people arrived outside the farmhouse in Virginia where Robert lived. The driver was
- 0:38twenty one year old Michael full and his two passengers were his girlfriend, nineteen
- 0:43year old Katherine Inglis, and Kyle Hulbert, an eighteen year old friend of
- 0:48Clara Jaynes. Clara herself was not in the car. She had chosen to
- 0:53remain in her dorm at college, while Michael, Katherine, and Kyle made
- 0:58the journey without her. Kyle had met twenty year old Clara at a Renaissance
- 1:03festival earlier that same year, and the two had quickly bonded over their mutual
- 1:07love of role playing games, the goth culture, fantasy, and the occult.
- 1:12They were both fascinated with magic, but by many accounts, Kyle had
- 1:17taken this a step too far. He was diagnosed with both by polar disorder
- 1:22and schizophrenia, which blurred the lines of reality for him and sometimes made him
- 1:26believe that he was much more powerful than he was in fact. Before meeting
- 1:32Clara, he had been a psychiatric patient a total of seven times for his
- 1:37paranoid delusions and suicidal tendencies. And Kyle's head he was a warrior, and
- 1:42his role was to protect Clara Jane, who he'd quickly become very close to.
- 1:48He described Clara as his closest, most dear friend and a sister as
- 1:53well. Clara, who studied computer science at James Madison University, was known
- 1:57on campus as someone who both dressed and acted in an alternative way. She
- 2:02was into the goth fashion and referred to herself as the nickname Priestess of High
- 2:07Chaos. This was thought to be a reference to the works of fantasy writer
- 2:13H. P. Lovecraft, in particular the Cthulhu mythos, where chaos magicians
- 2:19are magic wielding individuals who don't follow a particular moral code or set of rules.
- 2:24For chaos magicians, their only belief is that nothing is true and everything
- 2:30is permitted. This meant that in her own eyes and Kyle's eyes, there
- 2:35were no boundaries to Clara's power When Kyle approached the door of the farmhouse on
- 2:40the cold, rainy night of December eighth. Robert Schwartz recognized the teenager as
- 2:46a friend of his daughters and invited him inside. Shortly afterwards, Kyle revealed
- 2:52the two foot long sword that he'd brought with him. Quote, I know
- 2:55about your plans, he said, you won't get away with it. He
- 3:00then stabbed and slashed at Robert more than forty times, fatally injuring him.
- 3:06Leaving Robert's mutilated body where it fell. Kyle walked back to the car,
- 3:09where Katherine cleaned the blood off the sword and wrapped the weapon in its howl.
- 3:15It took two days for the crime to be discovered. Police were aware
- 3:19that an unknown person had made a call to a tow truck company in the
- 3:23same window of time that Robert had been killed, and the caller's car had
- 3:28been part close to the farmhouse. As well as this, phone records showed
- 3:31that Clara had called Kyle shortly before her father was killed. Although Clara had
- 3:38lied to the police, telling them that she had not made or received any
- 3:42phone calls that night, there was one other thing that Clara couldn't or wouldn't
- 3:46explain to the police. It was a note in her dorm room addressed to
- 3:51the pseudonyms that she, Kyle, Michael, and Katherine used in their role
- 3:54playing games, asking for true honor to be bestowed upon their souls by high
- 4:00Chaos. Investigators believed that the note was a thank you to her friends for
- 4:05carrying out the murder. The car's driver was quickly identified as Michael full and
- 4:12police ordered Michael, Katherine, and Kyle to come in for questioning. During
- 4:16Katherine's interrogation with law enforcement, she made several statements that implied that Robert's own
- 4:21daughter, Clara Jane, had been involved in the planning of his murder.
- 4:26According to Katherine, Clara had discussed killing Robert on multiple occasions, reportedly because
- 4:31Clara believed that her father had tried to poison her as well as domestically abusing
- 4:36her. Above all else, Clara's motive for wanting her father dead was incredibly
- 4:42shallow. The two of them just didn't get along that well. He didn't
- 4:46like the alternative goth clothing that she wore, and he didn't approve of the
- 4:49fact that she spent so much time alone in her room role playing and shutting
- 4:55herself away from the real world. On the second of February two thousand and
- 4:59two, Clara Jane Schwartz was officially indicted for her father, Robert's murder,
- 5:04and also faced charges for both solicitation of murder and conspiracy to commit murder.
- 5:11Katherine, Michael, and Kyle were also indicted for their involvement in the killing.
- 5:15Kyle's family members were devastated, believing that their mentally ill son had been
- 5:19taken advantage of and manipulated. They described the hallucinations that Kyle suffered from,
- 5:26as well as his suicidal ideation and desire to be accepted by others. His
- 5:30mother said quote, if Kyle sees someone who needs something, if he can,
- 5:34he gives it to them. Out of the four accomplices, Clara was
- 5:39the only one to go to trial. The prosecution described Clara as the ringleader
- 5:44of the group, a young woman who was not afraid to manipulate others to
- 5:46get what she wanted, and in this case, what she wanted was her
- 5:50father's death. She had previously tried to have Robert killed by instructing one of
- 5:56her other friends to murder him, but this plan had failed. According to
- 6:00prosecutors, Clara hated her father so much that when the initial plan didn't come
- 6:04to fruition, she immediately began to concoct a second plan to have him killed,
- 6:10and that's how Kyle Holbert became involved. Both of Clara's siblings made statements
- 6:15about how their father's murder had effected their lives. Her brother, twenty five
- 6:19year old Jesse, told the jury that he couldn't escape from daily thoughts of
- 6:24his father being brutally killed on his sister's orders. Clara's older sister, Michele,
- 6:30shared that she now had a fear of knives and suffered from nightmares where
- 6:33she's forced to watch her father die. Michele said, quote, It's been
- 6:38nothing but a nightmare since the day I found out. It's hard enough that
- 6:42it was my father, but on top of that, to have my sister
- 6:45committing such a horrible crime. Both the prosecution and defense leaned heavily on Clara's
- 6:50obsession with a role playing game called Underworld. According to prosecutors, Underworld had
- 6:58played a large role in Clara convinced Kyle to carry out their murder, but
- 7:01the defense disagreed, saying that Clara's instructions for her father's murder had been given
- 7:06in the context of role playing, Kyle had been the one to take the
- 7:12game too far by attacking and killing Robert in real life. The prosecution's rebuttal
- 7:16against this claim relied on a specific witness, Patrick, the friend of Clara's
- 7:21who she had previously asked to murder her father. Patrick took to the stand
- 7:26and shared with the jury that Clara was obsessed with the idea of murdering her
- 7:30father, talked often about the large sum of money she would inherit from his
- 7:34will, and on multiple occasions she had researched natural toxins and chemicals that she
- 7:40could use to cause his death without suspicion. Patrick had taken part in Underworld
- 7:45role playing with Clara, where he had played the role of an assassin.
- 7:48Clara's character had asked Patrick's character to assassinate her father. It didn't take long
- 7:54for the jury to come to their conclusion. On the fifteenth of October two
- 7:59thousand and two, Clara Jane Schwartz was found guilty a first degree murder and
- 8:03was sentenced to a forty eight year prison sentence. Since then, she's tried
- 8:07to appeal her conviction or shorten her sentence on many different occasions, but for
- 8:13now her release date is set at November second, two thousand and forty three.
- 8:18As the accomplice who actually carried out the murder and with an actual sword,
- 8:24no less, Kyle Holbert received a life sentence without parole. Kyle's lawyer
- 8:28gave a statement to the public shortly after his sentence was revealed where he said
- 8:33Clara was the puppet master and Kyle Holbert was the puppet a people pleased her
- 8:39until the end. Kyle had elected to plead guilty to the charges against him
- 8:43so that Clara's family would not have to go through the trauma of sitting through
- 8:46a second trial. Michael full was sentenced to eighteen years in prison, and
- 8:52Katherine Inglis received the shortest sentence of the group, only one year of jail
- 8:56time for conspiracy to commit murder. Clara Jayne's grandfather and Robert's father summed up
- 9:03Clara's actions perfectly in just one sentence. She had free choice, he said,
- 9:09and her choices were always the bad ones. That's ten minute murder for
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