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#116 - Samua Azevedo Kormanik - Model/Actress/Life Coach · The Chris and Mike Show

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  They won't hear us talking. Together.
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  Well, when I put it back in, Oh yeah, hello.
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  I always bring the volume down 50%.
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  OK, it always kind of skips right there.
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  It was a demo, buddy. It was a demo, everybody.
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  This is actually us playing. Is it really?
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  That's awesome. I was about to ask if this was
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  like, you know, actual like original music.
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  This is ours. Nice.
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  If you came to see us play live in the 90s, that would have been
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  the first song you would have heard every night.
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  So you guys used to have a band in the 90s?
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  We did first with the same way I'm playing guitar on that.
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  Oh, I love it. Good boys and girls go with
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  Chris and Mike show. I'm Chris, he's Mike, and you
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  can find this on Instagram or Facebook, YouTube, and actually
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  we're on live YouTube right now working on the Chris and
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  mikeshow.com website. And with us today we have some
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  WAH. One person one time said this to
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  me and it stuck with me. She's like, oh, it sounds like a
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  kiss. That's my thought too.
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  That's my thought too. You know some wah, you have to
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  exaggerate it too, right? Some wah.
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  You can't, you know. Now I noticed, I know I did a
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  little Facebook stock and you speak Portuguese.
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  Yes, I'm originally from Brazil, was born, was born there, raised
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  there at the beginning of my life.
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  The majority of my family is still there.
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  So yeah, I'm fluent in Portuguese.
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  And then I can also speak Spanish just because it's wow,
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  close enough to Portuguese, although it's interesting.
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  So Brazilian Portuguese speakers, like if we listen to
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  Telemundo or something and Spanish people are speaking slow
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  enough, like we can pick up about 90% of what they're
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  saying. It doesn't work the other way.
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  Hispanics, Spanish speaking people could not understand
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  Portuguese. So it's kind of an interesting
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  dynamic. Really.
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  Here's a question. I don't know why that is.
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  OK, so I work with a lady. Go ahead.
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  I work with a lady whose family is from Mexico every day.
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  So I'll be curious to see what her take on that is, because
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  we've talked a little bit about that subject, but I can't
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  remember what. I have never come across like a
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  Hispanic person who hasn't studied Portuguese.
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  Obviously it's different if they study Portuguese but just like
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  cold Turkey, Brazilians can understand like I said 7580% of
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  Spanish if they speak slow enough, but it it never works
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  the other way. That's.
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  Fascinating. So my question here is, Mike,
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  are we in? Are we in?
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  Where's Portuguese? No, where Brazil?
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  Are we in Brazil? No, I'm in Ohio.
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  No. No, no, no, no, no.
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  Meaning our show, we're in 20 countries.
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  I'm asking Mike, are we? In Brazil.
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  I don't think Portugal or Brazil is on the list.
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  Oh, we got to make that happen. Well, because now that's why I
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  was leading it, see, because you're up here on the screen.
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  So I'm I'm telling you now, you have to make sure your family
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  tunes in when we put your episode.
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  Yeah, I'll plug, I'll plug the show away.
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  And I also have a brother in Luxembourg, so we'll get you
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  guys in, you know, all over the. Place.
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  That's awesome. We're in 20 countries.
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  We would like to be in 200 so. That would be fun.
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  That would be fun. Yeah, we're trying to get
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  everybody from the countries that are are listening to us to
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  join us, but it's harder than you would think.
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  Yeah, you know, the nice thing now is like with cap cut, you
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  can just do the auto translate at the bottom.
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  So even though we're speaking in Portuguese, you can have cap cut
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  auto translate into, I mean, we're speaking in English, you
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  can have auto cap cut translate into Portuguese and it's like
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  90% OK. Like you know, it might miss a
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  few like in between the lines or like slang type of stuff but
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  does a pretty good job. Cool, yeah, we use this is all
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  through an app called Riverside FM.
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  So they do everything the. Artificial.
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  Intelligence breaks it all down and has all the captions.
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  Everything. I use captions for my own
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  business stuff. I have cap cut but I find
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  captions is a little bit more user friendly for me anyway.
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  I don't know. That's good to know, but.
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  Captions. Captions does the same thing.
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  It can do different languages. I'm gonna.
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  Have to keep that in mind though, that I could bring it
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  down to my desktop and actually put the translation on there.
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  That's really cool. Yeah, cuz then people can hear
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  it in the if you have guests from different countries, even
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  if the obviously the podcast is in English, you should just
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  translate it to their natural language.
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  That would be awesome. I'm going to have to look into
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  how to do that. That could be cool doing doing
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  some shorts put up. Take one short, take the zombie
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  short Mike. We we could put all the
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  different languages for all the different countries and we can
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  we can tag. Them we're going to make that.
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  Happen. I like it.
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  Thank you for the suggestion, I like it.
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  Nice. Yeah, No problem.
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  I don't know where we're going. My job here is done.
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  We're done with the cats now. Leave it on high note.
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  While I'm on top. George casting You ever watched
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  Seinfeld? He's going.
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  To leave him on a high note, leave him hanging.
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  So we we have a listener that tuned in right at the beginning.
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  His name's Michael, he said. Hey guys, looking forward to
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  this show, so. Hey, Michael.
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  Michael. Other than me?
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  Did you just plug in onto your other device, Mike?
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  No, I wish I could take credit for that.
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  We also stream on on a on a thing called Twitch.
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  So it's on Twitch and YouTube every time we go live.
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  And because we have, we've increased our following since
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  March from about 23,000 all the way up.
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  We're close in 120 a 120. Five years.
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  That's awesome. Our.
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  Subscribers have jumped from. About 6000% in the last 10 days
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  for some weird reason. But the benefit of that is
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  because we have shorts, I have shorts scheduled twice a day and
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  I'm actually moving them to three times a day because we
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  have so many shorts that that it alerts.
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  Like we had a musician on Joseph, originally from Canada,
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  now he's in Oklahoma, that he'd been following us from the
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  beginning and we didn't know that.
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  We had no idea till he was on the show.
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  And then he was like I. Love your show, I've been
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  listening to it for a long time now.
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  Which? It's so awesome.
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  It is. It's very cool.
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  Yeah, so that was fun. So I was, I was like in Facebook
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  stalking a little bit. You're married.
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  You got kids. Five kids.
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  Five kids. Five kids, yeah, so.
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  That keeps you busy. It does.
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  So I have four teenagers and then a toddler.
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  Yeah, let me tell you, having teenagers and a toddler at the
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  same time, Not for the week apart, like definitely not, no.
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  I mean, you have you have a benefit of four teenagers
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  helping look out for the toddler.
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  You think in theory, right? Are you saying that doesn't work
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  out that way? It depends on which teenager
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  we're talking about. OK, OK.
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  What are the What are the ages of the kids?
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  So the baby is 3 1/2 and then my this is my second marriage.
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  So she's my and my husband's kid.
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  She's his only child. And then the older 4, they're
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  almost 161718 and 20. And the 18 year old is she's
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  kind of severely autistic. You wouldn't when she was
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  diagnosed back in 2010, the way that the diagnosis worked, and I
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  haven't dived into the details of that anymore.
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  It used to be that like where you fell in the spectrum
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  depended on how big of a gap it was between what you could do
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  and what a typical person at that same age as you could do.
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  And so. So it could be it was a
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  progressive diagnosis. You could start as mild if you
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  were diagnosed at 2 1/2 because obviously what a typical 2 1/2
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  year old can do is a lot less than what you expect a 10 year
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  old to do. So she's considered so really
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  autistic. That's been quite the journey
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  with her. She has we both her and I, it
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  was, it's been, you know, a part time job for me and she works
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  really hard and we have a phenomenal team around her.
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  I fought really hard to kind of fight through treatment options
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  and, and we've kept everything holistic mostly with her, as
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  well as just great therapist and such, you know, team A-Team that
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  really believes in seeing where she can go versus being stuck
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  where she is. And so she's come such a long
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  way from she progressed into autism.
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  And so she's come such a long way from being the kid who was
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  like smearing shit all over. A quick question.
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  Yeah, not to interrupt you, but without I know you could do a
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  whole show on just that. Alone.
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  Yeah, I could. And that's a beautiful story.
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  What kind of holistic medicine worked best for her that they
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  would prescribe pharmaceuticals for?
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  In lieu of yeah yeah. Oh, in lieu of yeah, so I guess
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  the one thing that I would say, cuz we've, I've gone through
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  windows with her where like puberty and a couple other like
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  life situations where her behavior did escalate that time.
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  So she's actually broken my nose before.
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  Oh, wow. You know, other issues like that
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  and, and her therapist at the time started to be like, maybe
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  want to look at medications, medications.
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  The thing is there is no medications for autism and you
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  can kind of play Russian roulette and get a child on.
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  They tend to put kids a lot on a medication that's for adults
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  with schizophrenia. There's no long term studies on
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  how safe that is for children. And most adults who are on that
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  medication, their life expectancy is about 50 to 60
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  years old. So it's just like, yeah, no
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  thank you. You know, they sometimes put
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  them in ADHD, anxiety, depression, medications, things
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  like that. But again, nothing is studied or
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  long term. It's not specific for autism.
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  And a lot of them have severe side effects.
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  I have a couple of friends whose kids have had to do that route
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  and they've developed seizures, they've put on more weight, they
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  developed other neuroses because of the medication and things
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  like that. So for her, I happened to I was
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  she was diagnosed by a typical doctor at University Hospitals,
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  which is a great system right here by us.
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  And she gave me this reading list and one of and I left there
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  and went right to the library and checked out several of those
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  books. And one of them was called
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  Facing Autism. And this mom talked a lot about
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  how she, you know, cleaned up her son's diet.
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  So they went gluten free, dairy free.
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  And then she did a lot of research and she spent, I don't
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  know if he was her only child, which that was difficult.
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  By the time Naomi was born or Naomi was diagnosed and
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  regressed, I already had four kids, you know, so that's and
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  very close in age. And I was in an unhealthy,
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  unhelpful relationship. So there was just a lot and but
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  with a little bit of energy and mind space, I had thankfully,
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  this book really guided me a lot.
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  And then from there I came across an organization called
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  National Autism Association and they had a conference coming up.
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  So I attended that and the conference was really what we
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  would call now like it was called biomedical, but now it's
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  really what we would call like functional medicine.
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  It's really under that umbrella nowadays in my in my opinion.
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  And so I originally was a pre Med person, so science,
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  medicine, all that stuff I was really familiar with.
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  And a lot of these doctors were, there wasn't no research for a
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  lot of this autism, you know, the, the increase in numbers
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  were still recent, you know, 10 years, 15 years ago when she was
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  first diagnosed. And so a lot of these doctors
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  were in the trenches doing the research as things were going
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  on. But I what really impressed me
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  too was that the doctors that were there presenting, they were
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  all all sorts of doctors. There was doctors that had been
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  filming practitioners for 20 years.
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  Some were, you know, GI specifics, some were just
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  everywhere in the medical field, but every one of them had a
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  direct link to autism, was frustrated with the lack of
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  knowledge and options out there for treatment, and then decided
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  for the sake of helping their nephew, their own child,
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  whatever the situation was, to then like dig into things.
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  So the main thing for sure was going gluten free for her.
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  She is she was really dairy free for a long time.
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  Now she's like mostly dairy free, but gluten till this day
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  cleaning up her environment. So like right away I went to
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  using just plant based cleaners and like my laundry no longer
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  smells like anything, which is like I kind of miss the downy
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  smell but you know it. But it just cleaning a lot of
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  that stuff up. And then after about a year or
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  so and even that just showed improvement.
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  Some supplements like we did my MB12 shots like on her bum for
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  about a year and a half. That helped her a lot trying to
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  get her a lot of fish oils. It was hard at first, but now,
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  like once she got to be about 6-7 and she learned how to
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  swallow capsules, that changed the game a lot, too.
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  So just vitamin D, magnesium, a lot of that stuff.
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  And then the hyperbaric oxygen chamber that.
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  Yeah. So for about a year, I did about
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  20 to 25 hours a week of her therapy and that, and that
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  really spiked up her speech and calmed her down.
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  It's known for increasing oxygen levels to the brain and a bunch
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  of other things, yeah, like reducing inflammation.
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  But a lot of kids with autism have really, really screwed up
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  guts. And so the other thing that
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  hyperbaric does, it tends to kill off candida, which is a
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  really strong yeast type of a thing in the stomach that can be
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  hard to get rid of and that irritates them a lot.
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  So that really boosted her a lot as well.
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  And then? So she had no issues getting
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  into the hyperbaric chamber. It's huge this, you know, even
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  the home unit is pretty big. And what I ended up doing cuz
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  you know, it was a little skittish at first.
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  She used to go with either me or her older brother for the
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  majority of the time. And at this time she was in a
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  mode where it's like you couldn't keep your eye off of
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  her. So it became like a reprieve for
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  me cuz it was like, oh great. For an hour and a half she's
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  actually just sit still. But what I used at the time was
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  I began to limit her iPad use except for in the oxygen tank.
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  So then it was like, OK, I I want to go in there because then
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  I get the iPad. Exactly.
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  Reward time for sure. Yeah, so I used that to to kind
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  of get her on board with it. And then as she's gotten older,
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  we reduce sugar a lot. So she almost never has
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  artificial sugars and food dyes. Food dyes is huge.
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  Yeah, my, we had, we had a, a guy in the show, a couple guys
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  on the show. 1 was Nate Palmer, then was Peter Ho.
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  They're both health Wellness type things and my wife and I
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  cut out bad starches, breads, crackers, things like that.
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  I used to do roots crackers, like that was my thing, but we
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  cut that out. We're, we've, we've had a fewer,
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  you know, 3 or 4, five times where we've kind of stepped away
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  from that, you know, having tacos and things, but I didn't
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  do tortillas anymore. And just a difference in that.
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  We're going on maybe two months now.
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  It's mind boggling. Mike doesn't do dairy because
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  he's allergic to dairy. I went, I went a year because I
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  had hyperpyrothyroidism. I went a year plus being
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  straight up vegan, which eliminated all of that stuff.
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  So it's, it's, it's interesting that that has a, has a a
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  healthier path with autism because I worked in the field
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  with, with autistic and, and Down syndrome mild Mr. Massive,
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  you know, just I worked at a, a place called the Marks Center in
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  the East Valley here in, in Arizona that we had 32 group
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  homes, all adults mentally seven, yeah, 7-8 years old.
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  And it ranged the dynamic ranged from everything.
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  You know, we had an autistic guy that would flap his arms, you
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  know, right. We had Down syndrome would just
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  sit there and self stem, you know, in the in the break of
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  just nothing but just this right.
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  We had some that actually, you mentioned smearing shit.
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  We had a guy that actually would go in the bathroom and if he was
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  in there too long, it's like, what are you doing?
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  You open up like oh God, really dude?
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  Really. No, I used to have the the girls
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  used to share a room and it was huge and and I bought pajamas
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  that zippered up the back and had specific, it has specific
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  like fabric around the neck that supposedly wasn't stretchable
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  and all. I mean, I did everything and
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  this girl was Houdini. I bought like special for the
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  seat car seat. I had bought like special seat
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  belt to go above the seat belt and I would in like 2 minutes, I
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  would look in the back of my car and she'd be, you know, complete
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  run around. So she really was Houdini.
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  And I mean, you literally, I would open the door some
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  mornings and you couldn't tiptoe across to get to the bathroom
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  and start to clean things up because it was just, yeah, isn't
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  that. A joy and I did I lived that
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  because I worked in that environment for 13 years and
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  then I ended up running the group homes but I still was
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  there yeah. So so I feel you been.
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  There. Yeah.
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  Well, now she's 18. For her 18th birthday, we went
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  to Punta Cana and she and I went partying at Coco Bongo.
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  We actually were just in Vegas and she went to the Shakira
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  concert. She works at Outback.
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  She does CrossFit and dance competitions so we've come and
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  it but it is still a roller coaster.
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  Even the morning that we were going to Vegas she was like
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  maybe I can't go to Vegas, I need to stay home cuz she's just
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  as nervous about the unknown. Even though we have been talking
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  about it for 2-3 months. Her teachers at school are
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  trying to help her work through it.
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  In the fall, she had a spike in behavior and she like, she bit
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  my husband and he had a bruise in his arm.
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  So it's not like, oh, she's cured, right?
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  But 90% of the time, you know, she's come such a long way.
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  She's doing great. And I'm so proud of her.
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  And, and I wouldn't have met like, you know, even two years
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  ago, I wouldn't have thought she'd been able to keep a job.
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  And, and, and for her to keep a job, it took about 3 months of
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  that being like my part time job with meetings and following up
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  with people and staying on top of people to make sure that
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  they're applying the right things.
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  But with the right tools in place and a lot of tenacity, you
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  can get it done. So she works it out.
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  That's awesome. Yeah.
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  What does she do there? So she's called Fun of the House
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  support and she mostly rolls their silverware.
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  So when they sit you down and they give you the silverware's
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  roll, mostly that's what she's doing.
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  Sometimes she has to shine the silverware because they'll come
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  out of the dishwasher clean, but it has like the water spots on
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  it. So she does that as well,
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  folding the kids menus. And then every once in a while
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  they'll have her sweep or bus tables, you know, stack up The
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  Dirty dishes, things like that. So the cool reason why I asked
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  that question was you mentioned that for three months that was
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  kind of you helped her transition into that with a
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  folks at Outback. That's pretty cool that they
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  were willing to take on because, I mean.
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  Well, here in Ohio, there's an organization, a government
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  organization called Ohioans with Developmental Disabilities, or
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  I'm sorry, it's called Opportunities for Ohioans with
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  Disabilities, OOD. And so they paid for three
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  months for her to have a job coach.
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  So the majority of the work was actually done by the job coach
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  that would be there with her. And then they started to slowly
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  fade out. And what kept happening was as
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  they faded out, hiccups would come up, you know, and then just
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  kind of staying on top of everybody, making sure we're on
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  the same page. But Outback has been the manager
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  there is great. And even if, you know, she's had
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  two or three times where she's gone in for shifts and wasn't
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  able to stay and you know, and they work through that and then
• 18:29
  she comes next time and she's good though.
• 18:31
  Yeah, Marks. Marks had the same kind of thing
• 18:34
  with a local grocery chain that was born and bred in Arizona
• 18:37
  called Bashes, where we'd have day programs and we called them
• 18:41
  clients. So the higher functioning ones
• 18:42
  would go to Bashes and basically restock the shelves and refresh
• 18:46
  everything and dust and things like that, you know, not
• 18:49
  anything extremely physical and but but yeah, so that's that's
• 18:55
  cool. That's really cool that that
• 18:56
  Outback does that. So right on.
• 18:58
  I also noticed was that right that you are your actress,
• 19:06
  model, fitness instructor, Zumba instructor, ambassador to the
• 19:12
  USA football are one of those things.
• 19:14
  So, you know, you just got to expand.
• 19:16
  I like life resumes. Life resumes is what I thought,
• 19:18
  because you don't just you just don't wake up, go to work, come
• 19:21
  home, go to sleep like you. You've done things in your life
• 19:24
  like Mike and I've accomplished, you know, things in our lives
• 19:27
  that you know other people. Like having an awesome band in
• 19:29
  the 90s. I think you guys should bring
• 19:30
  that back. We're working on it.
• 19:32
  It's kind of why this is here, right here, because I started
• 19:36
  poking and I'm like, dude, we need to write some more music
• 19:37
  because I still write songs. That's awesome.
• 19:40
  And that's how this evolved. But so I want to know more about
• 19:43
  the, the the the actress model part.
• 19:45
  And then I want to go down the path of, of the fitness
• 19:49
  instruction and what is what there was something else that
• 19:51
  you had I lead. Is that what it was called?
• 19:54
  Oh, that's super old. My husband owns Ohio Sports
• 19:57
  Chiropractic and so I work a lot with that as well.
• 20:01
  That's it's become. It was my full time job for
• 20:03
  quite a few years and then in the last year and a half as I
• 20:06
  have ventured into my own endeavors.
• 20:10
  I've been more part time assisting him, but that is still
• 20:12
  one of the things that I do. But I'm no longer with I lead.
• 20:14
  So you really went deep into my Facebook thing, He.
• 20:18
  Does his research. That's impressive.
• 20:20
  So with Ohio sports chiropractor rehab, anybody, anybody that you
• 20:24
  can name drop just out of curiosity because we're not
• 20:27
  we're not. No, because of HIPAA.
• 20:29
  OK, but he does work. You can go on the website or on
• 20:35
  the Ohio Sports Chiropractic has a Facebook page, so every once
• 20:38
  in a while you might see some people tagged on there because
• 20:39
  they're willing to tag themselves.
• 20:41
  But I can't actually just close it.
• 20:43
  But he does. The Queen of Flops not going
• 20:44
  there. We'll support him completely.
• 20:46
  Yes, he works a lot. He was a runner himself, my
• 20:50
  husband, he's one of those insane people that can run a
• 20:53
  full marathon in 217 he qualified for Olympic trials and
• 20:58
  so that that you know, 75% of his clientele or other runners.
• 21:01
  So he actually works with USATFA lot and travels with them like
• 21:05
  to World Championships and things like that.
• 21:07
  So stateside he's done all of the Olympic trials and things
• 21:10
  for about 10 years. So he's gotten to treat a lot of
• 21:13
  big like the people who have made Olympic podios for the
• 21:16
  track and field. He's gotten to treat a lot of
• 21:18
  those people that you would know the name names of.
• 21:21
  And then here at the clinic, surprisingly, Ohio is, yeah,
• 21:25
  that was impressive, although, yeah, that was a hard feat for
• 21:29
  sure. But he stayed.
• 21:31
  Ohio has a lot of good runners and athletes.
• 21:35
  So, yeah, he actually treated a big WWE name that was in town
• 21:40
  and they were, they were in town doing one of their smash downs
• 21:44
  or whatever it was called. And he, yeah.
• 21:47
  And he, he was injured and his agent found our clinic and there
• 21:52
  was a couple of techniques that my husband does that isn't
• 21:54
  common. And so and he but he, but he
• 21:57
  knew about it. And so during lunch when we were
• 22:00
  closed, they pulled in with their limo and he got to treat
• 22:02
  him and right on. So that was probably, and that
• 22:04
  was probably one of his favorite because it was one of like the
• 22:08
  Ogs. So he remembers seeing him as
• 22:10
  like a middle schooler. And so he really enjoyed getting
• 22:13
  to treat him and, and you know, and chat with him.
• 22:16
  Very cool. Death to Rose.
• 22:19
  I would probably know who it is because that's when I watched
• 22:22
  wrestling was, you know, back when it was cool.
• 22:25
  According to I didn't, I didn't like wrestling, But according to
• 22:28
  my husband, he was a big time, you know, person.
• 22:31
  So yeah, I bet you would know. I really think that, and I've
• 22:35
  always said, you know, when you get to be past 13, if you're
• 22:38
  still into wrestling, good for you.
• 22:40
  I mean, if that's your thing, but people are going to make fun
• 22:42
  of you. You just got to know.
• 22:43
  That you know. If you're an adult.
• 22:47
  My 20 year old's BFF wrestles in college so I think.
• 22:50
  He would have real, that's real wrestling.
• 22:52
  No. Oh, you mean?
• 22:53
  Like. WWE.
• 22:54
  Yeah, yeah, like the WWE staff where fake, fake chair
• 22:59
  smackdowns are happening and what?
• 23:01
  For sure, college wrestling is. It's like still believing in
• 23:04
  Santa, right? You can't believe in Santa after
• 23:05
  like 10 or 11. It's like you can't believe in
• 23:07
  WWE and keep watching it. Unless you're 6 foot 2 elf from,
• 23:12
  you know, the North Pole that is coming to New York to find his
• 23:15
  father. Right, which is probably the
• 23:19
  type of people that still watch wrestling.
• 23:22
  Right, exactly. True story.
• 23:24
  Exactly. True story.
• 23:25
  Yeah, But yeah, so I have modeled my whole life almost
• 23:31
  since I can remember. So back in Brazil and one of my
• 23:34
  uncles got into photography and he was just getting started with
• 23:38
  his career. And one day was like, hey, let's
• 23:40
  come do this photo shoot with me.
• 23:41
  And I was 4 1/2 five, right? Didn't know any better.
• 23:45
  Sure. You gonna get me chocolate?
• 23:46
  I'll go with you. And he ended up winning like
• 23:50
  national prizes with this one picture of mine and did all this
• 23:54
  stuff and so on and off. I, you know, like I said,
• 23:58
  dabbled in modeling and some commercial work.
• 24:00
  Was never able to really lean into it.
• 24:03
  Had a pretty traumatic childhood and for different reasons, just
• 24:06
  didn't have the support and, and things like that.
• 24:08
  And, and then even as a teenager, kind of got back into
• 24:11
  it for a little bit, but same thing, like I had to really
• 24:13
  provide for myself and had no safety net, you know, starting
• 24:16
  at like 1415. And so just wasn't something I
• 24:18
  could really dedicate time to back in the day.
• 24:23
  It was, it was, it's a lot of harder than people think and
• 24:26
  being in the industry. So back in the day, you know,
• 24:29
  you had to go in person for an audition.
• 24:32
  And often these auditions are like your agent is calling you
• 24:35
  up. Like, hey, there's an audition
• 24:36
  like tomorrow, you know, or you might have a 48 hour turn
• 24:39
  around, especially back in the day when it was all in person.
• 24:43
  And then if you got a call back, usually those were 24 to 48
• 24:48
  hours notice. And then, and you still don't
• 24:50
  know if you're going to have the part right because you're going
• 24:52
  to even a call back. You're probably down to like 5
• 24:54
  to 7 people and you don't know you're going to get the part
• 24:56
  and, and make the, the money. And so for me, it was really
• 24:59
  hard even as a teenager trying to kind of stay in the industry
• 25:03
  because I, like I said, I had to provide for myself and I just
• 25:06
  couldn't keep missing shifts to then be like, oh, I didn't even
• 25:09
  get the job. So now you know, I didn't work
• 25:10
  2-3 shifts. I didn't get that income and I'm
• 25:12
  also not getting this income. So it was just hard for me to
• 25:15
  lean into it. And then I trabbled a little bit
• 25:18
  when my, when my first was born, he actually was on the cover on
• 25:23
  the package of the Pampers inaugural swim diapers.
• 25:27
  And yeah, cuz I just got him in with my agent at the time.
• 25:31
  And he, you know, he got the job, his first, his first job.
• 25:34
  He was one for one like a guy cuz usually you're like one for
• 25:38
  100. So yeah, so he got that.
• 25:42
  But and I dabbled a little bit once I kind of moved to Ohio and
• 25:45
  try to do a little bit still and then ended up quickly getting
• 25:48
  pregnant and having babies once I think probably maybe a couple
• 25:52
  years after Naomi was diagnosed. I tried one more time but again,
• 25:56
  just didn't have the support. My ex-husband just wasn't that
• 25:59
  type of a person and was very controlling and jealous and
• 26:02
  possessive. So that wasn't a thing he really
• 26:04
  wanted me to be successful at. And then my kiddos got into it.
• 26:10
  My daughter was a phenomenal dancer and decided to quit,
• 26:14
  which still breaks my heart. But it's her life to live
• 26:16
  because she really was so talented and knows people like
• 26:19
  her original dance teachers. Currently touring the world with
• 26:22
  Nicky Jam as a backup dancer. And a lot of it is knowing
• 26:26
  somebody in the industry that kind of pulls you in, but and.
• 26:28
  She was gorgeous. I admire your attitude because a
• 26:32
  lot of mothers are the dance mom kind of moms.
• 26:35
  That's why there was a show called Dance Moms, right?
• 26:37
  And those people drive me crazy when they're vicariously living
• 26:41
  through their kids. So the thing that caught my ear
• 26:43
  was it's her life to live, right, Right.
• 26:46
  So as long as she's not hurting herself, I admire your attitude.
• 26:49
  That's. Yeah, because it's like, you
• 26:52
  know, I, I was, I remember distinctly there was a day that
• 26:55
  I was on the step machine at a newer gym.
• 26:58
  I we had just moved to Ohio. I was in the step machine.
• 27:00
  Not really know anybody reading a book about parenting something
• 27:03
  or other. And it was a Christian mindset,
• 27:05
  like background type of a book. And I just remember, hit it like
• 27:08
  there was something that I read and I don't remember the book,
• 27:10
  but I distinctly remember this moment where it just hit me like
• 27:14
  my kids aren't my possession. You know, it's not, it's not
• 27:18
  like grow up to live this life that I think you should have.
• 27:22
  And that was so common when I was growing up.
• 27:25
  I mean my parents. It still.
• 27:26
  Is thankfully I don't think it's as prevalent.
• 27:29
  I know it still is and I agree with you 1,000,000%.
• 27:32
  But like, if you think back to my parents and my grandparents
• 27:35
  generation or our parents and grandparents generation, that
• 27:39
  was so expected. You were to either grow up and
• 27:42
  work on the farm. If you go way back or you were
• 27:44
  expected to grow up and go to college and be some or go to
• 27:48
  work in the factory or whatever, you had two choices.
• 27:50
  Join the military, go to work in the factory.
• 27:53
  Go work in the farm. Work on the farm or go to
• 27:56
  college. You know if you.
• 27:57
  Were or be a serial killer. That's always an option, you
• 28:00
  know. Because, you know, there's that.
• 28:02
  Yeah, I think for me, even though I had kiddos young, I
• 28:06
  think for me, like I moved here when I was 6 from Brazil.
• 28:10
  My grandma had been here already.
• 28:13
  And then my mom came and it was just me, my mom and an aunt of
• 28:16
  mine and then that aunt kids, and that was it.
• 28:18
  The rest of my family was. In Brazil and original and you
• 28:21
  moved to Ohio? No, I moved to Boston, so I grew
• 28:24
  up in the Boston area, South of Boston, but South side.
• 28:29
  Southeast. I think nowadays I'm allowed to
• 28:32
  come out and say this because there's a little bit more
• 28:34
  understanding and empathy towards it.
• 28:36
  But we were here illegally, you know, we came legally and then
• 28:40
  overstayed the visa. So I grew up with like in that
• 28:43
  culture of the illegal immigrants where, you know, you
• 28:47
  got whatever job you got and you're just thankful that you're
• 28:49
  able to work, which is also a side note.
• 28:52
  Like it kind of cracks me up seeing all my like non educated
• 28:57
  immigrant friends on Facebook be so passionate about like these
• 29:01
  ICE raids going on because I'm sitting here like these have
• 29:05
  been going on since like in 1995.
• 29:07
  Like, thank you they're. Just now taking credit.
• 29:10
  For him, right? It's like, you know, I was just
• 29:12
  cuz my daughter and I were just having this conversation cuz I
• 29:15
  guess one of her friends was really passionate in a
• 29:17
  particular way that she's like, what do you think about the ICE
• 29:20
  raids? I'm like, here's the deal,
• 29:21
  anybody who's ever been here illegally going back to the 80s
• 29:24
  when you know, I came over in 1988, it's like every single day
• 29:28
  you woke up and you went to work knowing that you had the
• 29:32
  potential of getting sent back. Either your job could get
• 29:35
  raided, you could get pulled over for running a red light or,
• 29:38
  or stop, you know, whatever. And you always would hold your
• 29:41
  breath like that was it's, that's been the thing since 1988
• 29:44
  across the entire legal, at least Brazilian community.
• 29:48
  So anyways, go ahead. No, I'm no, I'm agreeing with
• 29:51
  you. I think it's, it's people don't,
• 29:53
  it's, we've talked about this before on the show.
• 29:54
  It's clickbait. People will read the headline,
• 29:56
  not the story. And that's how most.
• 29:58
  People get their news. Because and so many.
• 30:00
  In America is a goldfish length like 6 seconds.
• 30:03
  I agree with you SO, and that is a great point too.
• 30:06
  So many people are quick to judge without investigating the
• 30:13
  whole story. Like, if you think back to the
• 30:15
  way the news was in the 1970s, I think it ended with Reagan,
• 30:18
  where they didn't have to do this anymore.
• 30:20
  But they used to have to give you the opinion editorial,
• 30:24
  right? So if the Republicans made a
• 30:26
  point, the Democrat had the right to rebuttal on the news,
• 30:31
  that was a law. They had to do it.
• 30:33
  And Reagan ended that. And, you know, basically said
• 30:35
  the news is entertainment. Which is sad.
• 30:39
  Right. Because yeah, yeah.
• 30:40
  I was just telling my daughter the story, you know.
• 30:42
  So I remember my mom had a friend and again, this is 1989.
• 30:46
  OK, So my mother had a friend who had been here illegally for
• 30:50
  about two years. She never had a bank account on
• 30:52
  her name, never had like. She had no like.
• 30:55
  And again, this is 1989 when the Internet isn't what it is today,
• 30:58
  right? So she had no links to anything.
• 31:01
  Like she never had a bank account.
• 31:02
  She never like had any. She always rented a room.
• 31:06
  So like, no utilities under her name, no rent, like she didn't
• 31:09
  own a car, like she had nothing, no paper trail, right?
• 31:12
  So she goes to Brazil because there's always a little
• 31:15
  something happened. She risked it to try to go to
• 31:17
  Brazil and come back, even though she was here illegally
• 31:19
  and there was somebody was gonna do something with her passport
• 31:21
  to make it seem like she had an overstate her visa, blah, blah,
• 31:23
  blah. She comes back and gets stopped
• 31:26
  by immigration on her way back in right.
• 31:29
  They put her in a room and they come back two hours later and
• 31:32
  they had a list of the four different places she had lived,
• 31:36
  even though none of them were under her name.
• 31:37
  There was no utilities, no phones, no cell phone bill.
• 31:39
  Like that's how it exists. They knew every place she had
• 31:42
  worked. They knew every place that she
• 31:44
  had lived. They knew a couple of people
• 31:46
  that she had been associated with, like friend, like really
• 31:49
  close friends and the guy she dated.
• 31:51
  Like they had all this information on her.
• 31:52
  That's and she wasn't nobody like she wasn't like.
• 31:55
  Basically living off the grid. Right.
• 31:57
  And she like, you know, she didn't commit any crimes.
• 32:00
  She'd never gotten in trouble. Like she was really a nobody
• 32:03
  know her bank account never had more than I mean, she didn't
• 32:06
  have a bank account, but like she never had more money, you
• 32:08
  know, like she wasn't doing anything that would have caused
• 32:10
  attention, right? And they were able to pull all
• 32:13
  of that from her in 1989. Well that's Big Brother, because
• 32:15
  the Internet, I don't think the Internet started till like 93.
• 32:18
  Right. I told you I got on Amazon for
• 32:20
  the first time in 1993. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:24
  You should have got stuff on Amazon in 1993.
• 32:26
  They. Didn't do that too.
• 32:27
  No, I take that back. It was either 91 or 92 because I
• 32:31
  graduated College in 92. Yeah, I was in, I was in
• 32:34
  college, the time when we were at a friend's house.
• 32:37
  Glenn, his name is Glenn. We were kind of, this is a bunch
• 32:39
  of theaters because I got out of journalism by then.
• 32:41
  But so we were hanging out, doing something, probably
• 32:43
  partying, whatever. But his parents had AOL and
• 32:46
  like. I remember that, yeah.
• 32:49
  And it. Was did you peep my AOL address?
• 32:52
  I get so much. Shape for it.
• 32:54
  Literally is my first ever e-mail address and I never got
• 32:58
  rid of it. He might have mentioned that
• 33:01
  while we were sitting there talking.
• 33:03
  Trying to figure out how we won't because he's like, did you
• 33:05
  go to like, I was like, yeah, I said, but it's AOL.
• 33:07
  He will. Who knows?
• 33:08
  If it went through. He went.
• 33:10
  It's aol.com. I've got mail.
• 33:14
  I get, I get stuff like that all the time.
• 33:16
  Every once in a while I'll have a patient because I'll work the
• 33:18
  front desk at my husband's clinic and I'll have a patient,
• 33:22
  you know, over the phone like aol.com.
• 33:23
  Like, yes, I'm so happy. Like, I'm so proud of you.
• 33:27
  The reason I can make fun of you is because I still have a
• 33:29
  Hotmail account. That I oh, that's almost as bad.
• 33:33
  Almost, almost. But going back to the kiddo
• 33:36
  stuff. So coming here illegally, having
• 33:38
  all that happen, like I said, I had a really traumatic
• 33:40
  childhood, a lot of issues with my mom and find, you know, just
• 33:44
  poor life choices, finance stuff, like all kinds, you name
• 33:46
  it should, but you know, gone through it.
• 33:48
  So I quickly realized like I need to pull myself up by my own
• 33:52
  bootstraps here. Like I'm responsible for myself.
• 33:54
  I was actually responsible for and my siblings and my mom a
• 33:58
  lot. So busted my butt in school.
• 34:01
  Thankfully for my 6th grade teacher totally kind of changed
• 34:04
  my mindset about things. And then I had an eighth grade
• 34:07
  teacher couldn't realize I was smart at this point.
• 34:10
  And I had an eighth grade teacher that was like, let me
• 34:12
  see what classes you picked for freshman year because my parents
• 34:15
  weren't my mom, my dad. I didn't meet my dad until I was
• 34:18
  19. And so my mom like 1, she's
• 34:20
  barely speaks English. She's an immigrant here.
• 34:22
  She doesn't realize how the school system works and she
• 34:25
  herself wasn't a good or anything like that, even in
• 34:27
  Brazil. So she wasn't like she didn't
• 34:30
  know how anything worked, right. And so they had this feel about
• 34:33
  what classes to pick and there was 3 levels at our school.
• 34:36
  There was like standard college and honors and blah, blah, blah.
• 34:39
  So I had picked all middle level classes, college and thinking
• 34:43
  like, oh, that sounded so hard and all this stuff.
• 34:45
  And then one of my teachers was like, let me see what you picked
• 34:47
  for freshman year. So I showed him.
• 34:48
  He's like, yeah, no, like this is dumb.
• 34:51
  Like you're way more smarter than this.
• 34:52
  Like what are you doing? And then it really wasn't until
• 34:55
  I got into like freshman year, like I changed all my classes
• 34:58
  into honors because of this teacher.
• 35:00
  I skipped a year in science and all this other stuff.
• 35:03
  And then I basically had this teacher of mine pick my schedule
• 35:05
  freshman year. And then from that point on,
• 35:07
  it's when I was like, oh, OK, I guess I am smart because I'm
• 35:09
  getting A's and all of this. And this is when I realized some
• 35:11
  of that stuff. So then decided that I was going
• 35:13
  to go pre Med. And then I decided that I wanted
• 35:17
  to go into BU's accelerated medical program, which was
• 35:20
  actually harder to get into than even Harvard, correct?
• 35:24
  Because I just wanted to be done quicker because it's like, I
• 35:26
  need to make money quick. I need to get on with my life,
• 35:29
  my independence kind of thing. And I got in to the program and
• 35:34
  then couldn't go because I was here illegally and I didn't have
• 35:38
  a Social Security number. And I got.
• 35:40
  No. And I got a lot of financial
• 35:42
  grants to be able to attend, so I was going to pay like less
• 35:44
  than 10 grand to attend this program.
• 35:46
  And then they really worked. I actually kind of just like
• 35:50
  ghosted them and I don't know what I was thinking at the time
• 35:54
  cuz I knew I wouldn't be able to follow through and I don't know
• 35:56
  if I just thought a miracle will happen.
• 35:58
  And my grandma has actually been AUS citizen since I was 8-9, but
• 36:03
  my mom just didn't follow through with getting our
• 36:05
  paperwork done. And so I could have been legal
• 36:08
  all that time. And then so I don't know.
• 36:11
  I don't even know why because I went, that hit me hard when I
• 36:14
  couldn't go there. But so I just ghosted them
• 36:16
  because I was scared to tell them why I couldn't accept my
• 36:20
  position and all the money, you know, and coming out like, well,
• 36:23
  I'm illegal and what would happen?
• 36:25
  And then they they kept following up with me, following
• 36:27
  up with me because they really wanted me to commit to going.
• 36:29
  And then finally I told the advisor in person because I
• 36:32
  didn't want to have a phone call.
• 36:33
  And I'm like, I don't know if these people are recording this
• 36:35
  call. And so I went in person and I
• 36:37
  was just like, I'm like, yeah, I can't, like, I don't have
• 36:40
  documentation. She was like, oh, wait, like we
• 36:42
  can help you with that. You can just join the program as
• 36:45
  an international student. So then for about two weeks, I
• 36:48
  was kind of excited. She was like, that'll actually
• 36:49
  help you out because you can get your visa done and all this
• 36:52
  stuff and it'll help you get, you know, get legal.
• 36:55
  But it's like, yeah, but then you have to pay international
• 36:56
  student prices. And I don't know if you know
• 36:58
  anything about that, but it's about double.
• 37:00
  So I went from having to pay maybe 10 grand or less to more
• 37:04
  like 7580. I was like, yeah, I can't do
• 37:07
  that. So going back to the kids, it's
• 37:10
  like I've had these different situations in my life where the,
• 37:13
  the rug got pulled from underneath me.
• 37:15
  And, and you know, and, and now at 43, I'm still trying to piece
• 37:19
  together what, who exactly am I? What, what do I want to do?
• 37:23
  You know, what, what makes me tick?
• 37:24
  What, what makes me passionate about things.
• 37:26
  And, and, and I'm struggling because I feel there's like 12
• 37:28
  directions I could go in and I'm trying to hone in.
• 37:30
  I'm like, OK, which two or three do I lean into right now?
• 37:33
  To make you feel better. That's about the same age that I
• 37:35
  kind of started to think about I was in my life if I was right
• 37:39
  where you're at right now. I was sober for about 5 years at
• 37:44
  that point. But you're still kind of getting
• 37:46
  here. Thank you.
• 37:47
  Now it's more like 18, but it it's still fantastic, right?
• 37:52
  I enjoy life, but I remember that feeling of who am I now?
• 37:57
  You know. I was a musician.
• 37:59
  I was a successful musician. That that was my identity from 9
• 38:04
  years old until I became a horrible addict, right?
• 38:07
  I kind of lost my way there. And I wasn't even a musician at
• 38:10
  that point. I was just existing and
• 38:12
  surviving. But kudos to you for, you know,
• 38:17
  having the guts to start over again and looking at it as an
• 38:20
  opportunity. I can hear the excitement in
• 38:22
  your voice. You're not sad about that, you
• 38:23
  know. Yeah.
• 38:25
  I mean, I think you know what one of the reasons when you guys
• 38:28
  mentioned about like talking about trauma and overcoming it,
• 38:31
  I think, and I'm actually starting my own podcast with a
• 38:35
  girlfriend of mine. It's gonna be called the Brian
• 38:37
  Samoa Show. And that's kind of the platform
• 38:41
  we want to go off of that life is just always hard.
• 38:45
  Yeah. And I think even before social
• 38:47
  media, cuz somewhere along the line from my family, from
• 38:52
  culture, there's this sense of like there's an end point in
• 38:56
  life and when you, and it's not death, like there's an end point
• 38:59
  that when you reach that, oh, from that point on, life is just
• 39:02
  like rainbows and, and butterflies, you know, Right,
• 39:05
  right. And the reality is like, no,
• 39:07
  like you can get the job, you can make the money, you can get
• 39:09
  the wedding, like the marriage, you know, everything you want.
• 39:12
  And but there is no end point, you know, and there's always
• 39:16
  gonna be like if, if these two 3 or 4 areas are clicking really
• 39:20
  well and bringing you all this fulfillment and joy and all of
• 39:23
  that, it's like, great. But there's gonna be an area or
• 39:26
  two that's gonna really suck and be challenging.
• 39:28
  Well, and that can turn around and they can interchange and
• 39:32
  move. Which one does what when.
• 39:34
  Right. Like we were saying earlier,
• 39:37
  there's always that opportunity to start over.
• 39:41
  There's no targets. You know, it's not when you're
• 39:44
  18, you should do this. When you're 25, you should do
• 39:46
  this. You should have kids by the time
• 39:47
  you're 30. You, you know, that's such BS.
• 39:51
  Your life is your life. You have one life.
• 39:53
  It's your life. And so many people spend their
• 39:56
  entire life letting other people tell them what to do and who
• 39:59
  they should be. You know, it just drags me
• 40:01
  insane, so much so that I spend a lot of time by myself.
• 40:06
  Yeah, and that's where I was at, you know, because like I the the
• 40:10
  way that my childhood was structured due to my mom's own
• 40:13
  issues and stuff. Like I spent my life trying to
• 40:16
  please her and being whatever version of myself that she
• 40:19
  needed or that I thought she wanted so that I could earn her
• 40:23
  love kind of thing. And then I rolled that over
• 40:26
  right into a marriage to a narcissist who was pretty much
• 40:29
  the same exact way and, and everything with like, who does
• 40:32
  he want me to be and how do I act?
• 40:34
  And not in like a phony way, you know, that I think might come
• 40:38
  across. It's just like I, I, you know,
• 40:40
  like I, I thought I love this person.
• 40:43
  It was more of like an attachment psychological kind of
• 40:45
  thing as well, because I had all this unhealed trauma that I
• 40:49
  didn't even baggage. But then you know the flip side
• 40:52
  of that is when you start to not care what other people think.
• 40:56
  Then you're an asshole then. They're.
• 40:58
  Right, you know, Oh, are you living your life for yourself?
• 41:01
  How dare you? You know, right.
• 41:02
  Yeah, yeah, that's but usually the people.
• 41:05
  But usually the people who think that though, are the people who
• 41:08
  benefited from you being in the dark.
• 41:12
  Right. But that's why they're they're.
• 41:13
  Yeah, well, that's not what I wanted for you.
• 41:15
  That's not. What's best for you, right?
• 41:16
  To do what I think is best for you because I know you don't
• 41:19
  know. You're just a child.
• 41:21
  You're 19 years old, I'm 40. I lived life.
• 41:24
  You need to follow my guidance because I know what's right for
• 41:27
  you and they don't. They don't like you do like you
• 41:29
  said earlier with your with your.
• 41:32
  With. Your daughter and the dancing
• 41:33
  thing, I, I championed that as well.
• 41:35
  I thought that was brilliant that you made that statement and
• 41:37
  might just beat me to the punch, but that was fantastic.
• 41:39
  That was a great way to approach that because your relationship
• 41:42
  stays strong because she doesn't resent you.
• 41:44
  You didn't force her to do something she didn't want to do.
• 41:47
  Where, like Mike said, Dance Moms, most mothers and fathers,
• 41:51
  mind you, because boys, sports, things like that, they're so
• 41:54
  ingrained with you have to, you have to, you have to that.
• 41:56
  It just doesn't work. And then it creates that
• 41:58
  resentment and then the fraction.
• 42:00
  Yeah, but then you get all these kids that are just miserable,
• 42:02
  and not only that, but then the whole midlife crisis, it's like,
• 42:06
  it's not really a midlife crisis.
• 42:07
  I think it's just people finally being like, well, wait a minute,
• 42:11
  like I'm looking back and everything I've done was for
• 42:13
  somebody else. And now I'm in this job that I
• 42:15
  don't even like or, you know, know, like what I'm not
• 42:18
  passionate about. And so like you start to kind of
• 42:20
  realize like it is my life. You know, it might happen when
• 42:24
  you're 3545, but it's like, you realize that and you're like,
• 42:27
  you know what, I'm going to change jobs.
• 42:28
  I'm going to do this. And and some people go in on
• 42:30
  healthy route because they haven't dealt with the baggage
• 42:34
  and the trauma. So then they try to do like a
• 42:36
  180, which isn't necessarily the answer.
• 42:39
  That's a good point and go really dramatic with rebelling
• 42:43
  against who they've been. That's not them.
• 42:46
  And then they go into other things that maybe isn't them
• 42:48
  either. But I think midlife crisis is
• 42:51
  just more people getting to the point where they run out of
• 42:53
  fucks to give. Am I allowed to say that?
• 42:55
  Absolutely you are. And then they're like, let me
• 42:58
  see who I am and what I actually even like.
• 43:00
  And and so with my kids. I never really thought about
• 43:03
  that, that that's brilliant point.
• 43:05
  Yeah. You gave me a new way to look at
• 43:07
  that. It is.
• 43:08
  It is not a midlife crisis. It's that person woke up you.
• 43:11
  Know yeah, that's kind of really what I think.
• 43:13
  And so with my kids I'm like like, I don't want them to have
• 43:17
  that moment. And I, and I was just having a
• 43:19
  conversation with my, my 20 year old yesterday about this because
• 43:23
  he, he, he's 6 foot 7 wow, and didn't touch a basketball until
• 43:28
  he was almost basically 8th grade, but he didn't really play
• 43:31
  until freshman year. Wow.
• 43:33
  His first ever basketball game, he got fouled and went to the
• 43:38
  foul line and did a jump shot because he didn't know that
• 43:42
  that's what you do. And so, but he like decided that
• 43:47
  he didn't make the front the 8th grade team, decided he was going
• 43:50
  to play the freshman team. Thankfully my husband, his step
• 43:52
  dad is super supportive. So was like, yeah, do whatever
• 43:55
  he needs to do. So he and I used to spend hours
• 43:58
  in the car driving to all different kinds of private
• 44:00
  coaches and, and getting him wherever.
• 44:02
  And he, cuz he was like, well, now I want to play basketball
• 44:04
  and I want to play in college and I want to be able to play
• 44:06
  post college. It's like, really, can we just
• 44:08
  make the freshman team first? Right.
• 44:10
  But that's where he was at. And it was just like, OK, like,
• 44:13
  let's go. And he did he got he got into AD
• 44:15
  3 and did phenomenally well played from the first game on
• 44:20
  was starting by his freshman year by about halfway point was
• 44:24
  Co cap like captain in training kind of a thing Sophomore year
• 44:28
  ended up being top scorer several games even though wasn't
• 44:31
  necessarily his role like he did great entered the portal.
• 44:34
  Now he's going to AD 2 and he puts a lot of pressure on
• 44:38
  himself. And I try to balance the holding
• 44:41
  him accountable to what he is proclaiming he wants, sure, you
• 44:47
  know, but also, like, giving him space because it's like, it's
• 44:49
  not about me living vicariously through him and wanting him.
• 44:53
  Like, I don't want him to succeed more than he wants to
• 44:56
  succeed. But as his mom, I'm like, I
• 44:58
  don't want you to look in the mirror like 10 years from now
• 45:00
  and be frustrated with yourself, you know, because because yeah,
• 45:03
  like, you just didn't stay as committed or as on track.
• 45:06
  So I would just tell him like, you know, like I'm just your
• 45:08
  bumpers, you know, like in a in a bowling alley and I'm just
• 45:12
  trying to put my bumpers up and make sure that you make it to
• 45:15
  the end and you knock down some pins or you knock down the pins
• 45:18
  that you want kind of thing. I always.
• 45:20
  Like that's what my parents did for me.
• 45:22
  They set me up for success, right?
• 45:24
  They didn't intervene in my life.
• 45:25
  They didn't say you're going to do this, you're going to be
• 45:28
  this. It was all suggestions, right?
• 45:30
  You want to go be a professional musician, I would really suggest
• 45:34
  that you have a degree in something right That wasn't.
• 45:38
  They didn't force me to go there.
• 45:40
  It was solid advice. And I'd have a hard time arguing
• 45:43
  with what I call common sense logic, right?
• 45:46
  When someone tells you if you move 2000 miles away and you
• 45:49
  don't have a job to fall back on, you know for at least the
• 45:52
  first six months, right, you're going to be right back here
• 45:57
  where you started. See, I have a different mindset
• 45:59
  with that and that could be the that could be the immigrant in
• 46:02
  me that, you know, just kind of makes a way because like my
• 46:06
  daughter when she wanted to dance and she wanted to dance
• 46:09
  through freshman year and then she quit going into her freshman
• 46:11
  year and she wanted to dance professionally.
• 46:13
  And I used to tell her the opposite.
• 46:14
  I'm like, listen, when you turn 18, like just go try dance, move
• 46:17
  to New York, move to LA. And this was pre COVID because
• 46:19
  now post COVID, which is the benefit of going into modeling
• 46:23
  and acting now is that everything is basically online
• 46:26
  now, you know, So I self so it's not the same risk of tying up
• 46:32
  all this time and potential losing money working other
• 46:35
  shifts. Cuz you can just do it at 2:00
• 46:38
  AM at home, submit yourself tape and see what happens kind of
• 46:41
  thing. And by the time that you have to
• 46:42
  call off work and go somewhere, you know, you've got the job.
• 46:47
  But I cuz I used to tell her like you one, like the lessons
• 46:51
  that you'll learn trying to make it.
• 46:53
  And this was before her teacher made it because a choreographer
• 46:56
  that we're, that worked really closely with our studio.
• 46:59
  And then her dance teacher became the choreographer for
• 47:02
  pretty much the entire Latin world, reggaeton, like music
• 47:05
  videos, artists, you know, tours and all that.
• 47:07
  And then her teachers, she's on her third tour now with a third
• 47:10
  different artist. So like I said, a lot of it is
• 47:13
  kind of who you know, So she would have had that going for
• 47:15
  her. But I used to tell all the time,
• 47:18
  it's like the lessons that you'll learn trying and working
• 47:21
  hard. And the reality is you can go
• 47:23
  back to college at any point. So it's like I always said, I'm
• 47:28
  like, I don't wanna be my kids crutch, but I'm always willing
• 47:31
  to be their safety net. And so it's like go try and if
• 47:35
  it doesn't work, like you can come back to home base, reset
• 47:38
  and try the next thing you know. So I feel like.
• 47:40
  If you move somewhere like 2000 miles away without a job, it's
• 47:44
  like go bartend, go waitress, go, you know, cut cut lawns.
• 47:49
  Like you figure something out. If you really want a thing bad
• 47:53
  enough, you figure it out. We did for.
• 47:56
  Sure. No question.
• 47:57
  The one thing that we had in common with you in the modeling
• 48:00
  world was, and Chris and Scott and Rick never saw the side of
• 48:03
  it because I booked all the gigs.
• 48:05
  We got rejected 50 times for every one time that somebody
• 48:09
  would let us in until we develop some kind of legitimacy, right?
• 48:12
  Right. And you built the name, Yeah.
• 48:15
  You played a lot of Monday nights at midnight for two
• 48:17
  people. At.
• 48:18
  The time. You know, we so now with the
• 48:22
  modeling stuff, you know, they I was just talking to a few people
• 48:26
  who are doing really well right now.
• 48:28
  One, it takes about two to three years to start to kind of book
• 48:31
  consistently because, like you said, you have to build your
• 48:33
  resume, the legitimacy a little bit.
• 48:35
  And then two, you know, because of self tape.
• 48:38
  So people can be any like I submit to jobs and I've gone
• 48:42
  gotten booked in jobs in New York, in Nashville and I'm in
• 48:44
  Ohio. And so it's like 1 if you book
• 48:49
  one in 100 jobs that you submit for like that's a good result.
• 48:54
  That's kind of where we started at.
• 48:56
  It was, you know, I was a lot like your son.
• 48:58
  It wasn't good enough to just know how to play a guitar.
• 49:01
  I didn't want to play other people's music.
• 49:03
  I want to play my own music, you know, And that's pretty
• 49:05
  arrogant. Well, it's even more arrogant
• 49:08
  when you walk in somebody's club that is world famous and
• 49:11
  established and say my. Band I want.
• 49:13
  To play for you. And they're like, no, you're
• 49:15
  not. You have to have that kind of
• 49:19
  confidence, you know, like nowadays.
• 49:20
  Is going back. I was so stubborn back then.
• 49:22
  I just kept I wouldn't do that. Now I'm a different person.
• 49:25
  I really am. I, Chris, will tell me things
• 49:28
  that I did back in the day and I'm like, that's, I can't
• 49:30
  believe it. But you can't lose that
• 49:32
  completely. There's a little bit of that,
• 49:34
  like manifesting, believing, projecting it out.
• 49:37
  There, you know, it's still there for sure.
• 49:39
  I'm just a different person than that person was, You know, I, I
• 49:43
  had that fire and that hunger at that time for.
• 49:46
  For that particular thing, you probably.
• 49:48
  Have it for something. Else now.
• 49:50
  Yeah, it was so new back then. Music will always be my first
• 49:53
  passion. I mean, that's what keeps me
• 49:55
  grounded. I just have a different approach
• 49:58
  to it than than I did back then, for sure.
• 49:59
  That's the only thing I cared about.
• 50:01
  I was, you know, to use your French word fuck that job is.
• 50:05
  What I always said, you know. I'll find another job.
• 50:07
  I'm with the band, you know? Yeah, but that goes back to like
• 50:11
  whatever you're big passionate at that moment, you know, you'll
• 50:13
  find a way to make that work. So right now, a couple years
• 50:18
  ago, like I said, I went through, you know,
• 50:21
  disappointment in my teens. Like I really, I went through a
• 50:23
  really hard about year and a half of being pretty depressed
• 50:26
  right after I graduated high school because it's like
• 50:28
  everything I had commonly that was supposed to be my saving
• 50:31
  grace and I done everything right.
• 50:33
  You know, I didn't go to the the keggers in high school and I was
• 50:37
  studying hard, you know, doing all these things to to make it
• 50:39
  into what I wanted to. But then the rug I still, it
• 50:42
  wasn't good enough because there was circumstances beyond my
• 50:44
  control that I could do nothing about.
• 50:46
  And then I started at the local Community College and my plan
• 50:50
  was like I mentioned my grandma was AUS citizen.
• 50:52
  And then at the time there was some, there was some like SNAFU
• 50:57
  law thing that I think it was Bush that did that made it a
• 51:00
  little easier to try to get legal like through your job than
• 51:03
  it used to be for a couple years.
• 51:05
  So then I was like looking into that because where I worked was
• 51:07
  willing to do that. So I started going to Community
• 51:11
  College and I was just going to like do that for a couple years.
• 51:13
  Hopefully my papers will come in in time.
• 51:15
  And I was going to reapply to BU.
• 51:17
  And then in that in that process end up meeting my ex-husband
• 51:22
  who, you know, promised up and down that he couldn't have kids
• 51:25
  because he and his and he was older than me and his ex-wife
• 51:28
  and him did have a child. But he was saying how they had
• 51:30
  to go through this whole hoopla and it was him and blah blah
• 51:33
  blah. And it was like 1 damn fucking
• 51:35
  time and I got pregnant, which is good because I love my son.
• 51:39
  And you know, one of you guys made the comment about like not
• 51:44
  being bitter and it's just like the ebbs and flows in the roller
• 51:47
  coasters. Not to sound cliche, but it does
• 51:49
  make you who you are. It does.
• 51:51
  And other parts of me that I wish weren't there just because
• 51:55
  it's trauma responses and and neural loops that are created.
• 51:59
  Like even I had a really hard about four like two weeks ago
• 52:04
  maybe I had a really hard one week where it was just like.
• 52:07
  It must have been something in the air because I was right
• 52:09
  there with you. Well, you know what it was that
• 52:12
  strawberry full moon and like something else like.
• 52:15
  That was a gorgeous. Movie like my husband was like,
• 52:17
  this is my husband was like this is what these are the three
• 52:19
  things you know, and he's like just hang tight for like 3 or 4
• 52:23
  days. So real quick where Chris and I
• 52:25
  part ways is I am an empath. Like the poster definition of an
• 52:30
  empath, which is how I write music and I, it comes to me
• 52:34
  through the universe. I'm the vehicle, right?
• 52:36
  I don't take any credit for it. He'll tell you I don't
• 52:39
  understand that. That's not how I'm built, right?
• 52:41
  So that's where we part ways. And sometimes he has to say,
• 52:45
  here's how life is and this is reality and.
• 52:47
  So I'm a little bit. Have to say to him, you know,
• 52:49
  here's my I am too, but I'm always going to be way more the
• 52:53
  give people the benefit of the doubt or the situation the
• 52:56
  benefit of the doubt a little bit more than most people for a
• 52:59
  second. So I might be a little bit more
• 53:00
  cynical than empath then, if that's.
• 53:03
  Yeah, but but yeah, so like, not.
• 53:07
  And again, this is really what I want to explore with our
• 53:09
  podcast, where it's like, whatever you see, especially in
• 53:11
  this age with social media, you know, it's like I if if you look
• 53:15
  at my social media, which I know Chris dug deep there, I do.
• 53:19
  I have a wonderful life and it's beautiful now.
• 53:22
  You know, I'm so thankful for my husband and the relationship we
• 53:25
  have and, and the things that we get to do and, and the kids.
• 53:28
  But even in the middle of all this wonderful thing and beauty,
• 53:31
  there is still hard. Unfortunately, my ex-husband
• 53:34
  still stays intertwined. And so sometimes that comes into
• 53:37
  play and you know, like court stuff and things are still going
• 53:41
  on that can get overwhelming. But but yeah, like, I just had
• 53:44
  this like week where it was just really hard.
• 53:47
  And I think part of it is just that neural loop from.
• 53:49
  And it's so important that people recognize that that you
• 53:54
  can have everything go the way that you want.
• 53:56
  And whether it be that one or two areas just is going to be a
• 53:59
  struggle or some of it is your baggage.
• 54:01
  And you have to be willing to look yourself in the mirror and
• 54:04
  unpack that closet and be like, oh, like this here, whether it's
• 54:09
  your fault or not that something happened.
• 54:11
  Like you have to sift through it, be willing to let it go.
• 54:14
  You have to do the work, as I always say to myself in my head,
• 54:16
  right, We're going to have to do some work now.
• 54:18
  Right, you know, I as a child, I was actually molested several
• 54:22
  times. You know, like these, all these
• 54:24
  different crazy things have happened.
• 54:26
  Like, like I said, I, you know, I had a great, I had a, you
• 54:29
  know, hard marriage, hard divorce, like.
• 54:33
  And you know what? Those make the most interesting
• 54:35
  people. Well, it always does feel like
• 54:38
  if you have to go through. Yeah, I mean, if they let let it
• 54:43
  grow them, right? Because unfortunately a lot of
• 54:45
  people go through things like that.
• 54:47
  And my husband's parents was was people like that.
• 54:50
  Like my husband's another person whose story is insane.
• 54:52
  Like I'm going to plug him that you guys should have him on the
• 54:55
  show because he has a crazy, crazy story of like where did
• 55:00
  you come from based on your ranking?
• 55:03
  And just to be such a giving, loving man that he is with like
• 55:08
  he's 0 bitterness. Like I struggle with some
• 55:11
  bitterness and unforgiveness towards certain things.
• 55:13
  We like. He doesn't even have that and
• 55:17
  just he's, I mean, he's by far the.
• 55:19
  Strongest person I've ever met at that myself.
• 55:22
  I used to be a very hateful person, like everything was
• 55:25
  negative. It's my way or the highway.
• 55:27
  Pretty much the antithesis of that.
• 55:29
  Now. I did in that I did a 180 but it
• 55:32
  took about well till right now talking to you I'm still
• 55:37
  working. I think too, the other thing is,
• 55:39
  like, you can get there like even my daughter with autism,
• 55:42
  right? Like we've gotten so far and 90%
• 55:45
  of the time she's phenomenal. Yeah.
• 55:46
  But every once in a while, like whether it's a full moon thing,
• 55:49
  whether it's something she ate, whether it's sometimes we don't
• 55:52
  know what it is, Like she just kind of reverts to some of the
• 55:56
  initial days with the tantrums and the aggressions and, and
• 55:59
  things like that. And I think it's like that for
• 56:01
  all of us. I think some of us carry more,
• 56:03
  but more baggage or have more trauma than others and have to
• 56:07
  be willing to and, and, and you have to be willing to look at
• 56:09
  the science of it too, you know, because I think there's a lot
• 56:12
  more information on that nowadays than there used to be.
• 56:14
  And so you don't have to sit there and be like, this is just
• 56:17
  how I am or this just happened to me.
• 56:19
  You don't understand. It's like, no, like, yes, like
• 56:22
  this happened to you. Yes, it'd be so much harder for
• 56:24
  you than maybe the person who's like trauma is just like your
• 56:27
  average trauma of life because everybody has challenges.
• 56:31
  But it's like there is science behind it, you know, like the
• 56:33
  grooves and the neural loops of your brain.
• 56:35
  And it is learning how to like interject those and and cut them
• 56:39
  short. But that's one thing I'll give
• 56:42
  Chris credit for. He grew up.
• 56:43
  He hasn't talked about it because, you know, we've been
• 56:48
  sharing your story. But he grew up in a horrible
• 56:50
  environment and he's one of the most positive people I've ever
• 56:52
  known. And I've known him for 30 some
• 56:55
  years. I mean, he's the same person
• 56:58
  mentally, spiritually, physically that he was when I
• 57:01
  met him. I mean, he's just always upbeat
• 57:05
  and especially when things get bad, you know, like when we had
• 57:09
  challenges in the beginning with this show, he would always be
• 57:11
  the person that would be like, it's going to be fine, you know?
• 57:13
  It's going to stick it through. Yeah, I'm losing my mind.
• 57:16
  I'm cussing. I'm saying words you don't even
• 57:18
  know exist and he's over there going, dude, it's me, mellow up
• 57:22
  we're going to get. Through it, right?
• 57:23
  Yeah, 'cause I'm a big. Believer.
• 57:24
  I love that about him. Thank you.
• 57:26
  I'm I'm a big believer in in in who you are in your life right
• 57:31
  now. Who I am right now in my life is
• 57:32
  is defined by how I was brought up.
• 57:34
  Everything happens for a reason. I don't I've never played the
• 57:37
  blame game. My brother plays the blame game
• 57:39
  all the time. I never have because what's the
• 57:41
  point? What's it just all all it's
• 57:45
  it's, it goes nowhere. So it's just you have to accept
• 57:48
  the fact, OK, you know, I went through these things in life,
• 57:50
  but those things in life, I had two directions to go and I went
• 57:53
  this way instead of that way. And because I went this way,
• 57:56
  then those are just stepping stones that make you the
• 57:59
  character, make you the man that you are.
• 58:00
  Even at 55, you still grow, you still learn, you still evolve.
• 58:04
  I'm more patient now than I was when I was raising my kids.
• 58:08
  And now it's because we have why you have my 2 grandsons.
• 58:10
  And it's just, it's different. My wife tells me all the time
• 58:12
  there's Anthony's rule, but it's it's.
• 58:15
  You don't. You don't, you don't see it when
• 58:19
  you're when you're when you're raising your own kids, you know,
• 58:21
  because you just you don't. We didn't have examples.
• 58:23
  So we were kind of like pulling out things out of the air.
• 58:26
  And I even told my son in the older he remembers the
• 58:29
  conversation. We was at a baseball game and I
• 58:32
  was trying to get him to choke up on his bat and step into the
• 58:34
  pitch when he swung and I was sitting behind home plate and
• 58:36
  and he wasn't listening. So I literally got up behind
• 58:38
  home plate with all the parents like, dude, pick up your leg,
• 58:41
  pick up your leg and then step this wing, step this wing.
• 58:43
  He was so pissed on the way home.
• 58:45
  And then he finally told me why. And I was like, oh, I was like,
• 58:48
  OK, you got to give me some grace, dude.
• 58:49
  I'm a first time dad. Like I had no example.
• 58:51
  I said, so I'm going to make mistakes, but I will never do
• 58:53
  that to you again. I will never call you out again
• 58:55
  in any way, shape and form like that.
• 58:56
  Because I didn't realize what I was doing was embarrassing.
• 58:59
  I thought I was being a helpful father, trying to remind my son
• 59:03
  step into the pitch. So you're going to drive her
• 59:04
  further? See that's so cool.
• 59:06
  Just like she did though to take his side and understand where he
• 59:09
  was coming from is so advanced in parents.
• 59:13
  You know, forward thinking. The parents didn't think like
• 59:15
  that. No, I think it's so important.
• 59:18
  That's so cool man, that's a great story.
• 59:19
  Yeah, I think it's so important, like what you mentioned, Chris,
• 59:22
  you know, about evolving and growing and like how you're
• 59:24
  different at 55 than you were when you were raising your kids.
• 59:27
  It's like some people just don't have a growth mindset, right?
• 59:30
  And it's, and that's what that is like it's just so important
• 59:33
  that you know, you are like, it sounds like that's what you do.
• 59:37
  You know, it's like you're willing to always say like I
• 59:39
  haven't peaked, right, Like I haven't, there's no target.
• 59:42
  Like I'm still learning and growing and involving in in the
• 59:45
  different aspects. A lot, a lot of it's because of
• 59:47
  my wife. My wife puts me in check all the
• 59:48
  time and she's been together 30 years.
• 59:50
  So it's, you know, she'll, she'll reel me in when I need to
• 59:53
  be reeled in and she's really good.
• 59:55
  At SO that's awesome. We got about 5 minutes left.
• 59:58
  So where, what else you want to share and where to talk about
• 1:00:00
  what you have upcoming so we can drive people to you and all that
• 1:00:03
  kind? Of yeah, so originally I got
• 1:00:05
  back into modeling thinking that I was gonna do that as a side
• 1:00:08
  thing because I really wanted to get into my podcast and as well
• 1:00:12
  as some life coaching. And the premise behind that is,
• 1:00:16
  like I mentioned and we touched upon in different ways, I am,
• 1:00:20
  I've gone through just about everything you can possibly go
• 1:00:22
  through, you know, from being an immigrant, sexual abuse stuff,
• 1:00:26
  traumatic childhood, you know, narcissistic divorce, things
• 1:00:29
  like that. And so I just want to be able to
• 1:00:31
  share from that platform and be able to whoever I'm trying to
• 1:00:34
  help, whether it be through our podcast episode or coaching.
• 1:00:38
  I can look them in the face and say, I know what it's like to be
• 1:00:41
  in your shoes, but here's how we can move past that and, and get
• 1:00:44
  you into where you want to be. And but then eventually, totally
• 1:00:48
  by happenstance, the modeling thing became kind of a bigger
• 1:00:50
  thing. And I ended up being booked as a
• 1:00:52
  core extra for Superman. Cool.
• 1:00:54
  Who comes out on the 11th? So I've got to be on set.
• 1:00:59
  Yeah, thanks. I got to be on set for seven
• 1:01:01
  days. I got to be a police.
• 1:01:03
  Police officer. There's going to be a scene
• 1:01:05
  where he's like walking through a crowd and he goes into a
• 1:01:07
  building and there's a police officer by the door.
• 1:01:08
  So one of the days I was that police officer.
• 1:01:11
  So sometimes it might be me, sometimes it might be not.
• 1:01:13
  When does that come out? It comes out July 11.
• 1:01:16
  Awesome. But I don't really know like if
• 1:01:18
  and when I'll make I know that my back, you know my me walking
• 1:01:22
  towards Superman. So my back and my hair made the
• 1:01:26
  previews. So we'll see what we know where
• 1:01:28
  I end up there. But I also got to work on Happy
• 1:01:31
  Gilmore too. So that comes out and I again
• 1:01:33
  have no idea how the final edits will work.
• 1:01:37
  Couple of the TV shows, Friends and Neighbors, which is a big
• 1:01:39
  show that everybody's been talking about.
• 1:01:41
  So the did you end it We. Did we watched the?
• 1:01:44
  OK, so the episode at the end where they have the body dead in
• 1:01:47
  the in the house, the big, the big fat guy is like dead on the
• 1:01:50
  ground of the house. If you watch that again, the
• 1:01:52
  medical examiner in the back behind the detective talking,
• 1:01:55
  that's me. So you get to see me on that.
• 1:01:59
  So, yeah, so I have some of those fun products coming out.
• 1:02:01
  But the biggest thing is definitely the podcast coming
• 1:02:03
  out, The Brian Samois show, BRY is my girlfriend's name.
• 1:02:07
  And then and Samois show, we're gonna have a website, Brian
• 1:02:10
  Samois, where we're gonna launch initially more of the podcast
• 1:02:13
  stuff, but then eventually some blogs and the coaching, the life
• 1:02:18
  coaching stuff that I'm excited about.
• 1:02:19
  Cool. That's honestly.
• 1:02:21
  So how do people find you online right now?
• 1:02:22
  Just. So you can find me on Instagram,
• 1:02:24
  Samaua Kormanik S AM UAKORMANIKMICKEY.
• 1:02:31
  No, I'm just kidding. That's me OU A/C.
• 1:02:35
  So Samaua Kormanik on Instagram that's probably and then the
• 1:02:38
  same thing for Facebook. So that's mainly the two places
• 1:02:40
  right now. And then I am on a couple
• 1:02:43
  episodes of my husband's podcast, which is called Mind
• 1:02:46
  Body Marathon and The Runner. The runner tie there.
• 1:02:50
  Yep, Yep. So there's an episode called I
• 1:02:53
  Hate Running. OK, which is me.
• 1:02:55
  I'll check it out. Everybody hates running.
• 1:02:57
  Everybody hates running for the first.
• 1:02:58
  Month. No.
• 1:02:59
  I've been running for like 12 years.
• 1:03:00
  I still hate it. But I did run 12 miles today.
• 1:03:03
  I have a full marathon coming out because my brother, who I
• 1:03:06
  love dearly and love to have him visit, who usually comes from
• 1:03:09
  Luxembourg only for like a handful of days, he's like, hey,
• 1:03:12
  I'll come for 10 days if you and I do this full marathon and it's
• 1:03:15
  a trail marathon, which I've never done, no.
• 1:03:18
  The trails are simple because we're running Nick and I
• 1:03:19
  runners. We've probably done marathons,
• 1:03:21
  but the trail ones are so much more fun because you're up and
• 1:03:25
  down as terrain. It's not.
• 1:03:26
  Yeah, I don't. I mean, I think our definitions
• 1:03:28
  are fun and different. My definition of fun is dancing
• 1:03:31
  and Zumba and it's. Going to go by quicker because
• 1:03:34
  you have so many different things to look at.
• 1:03:36
  Why? I hope so.
• 1:03:39
  Run with music it'll. Help.
• 1:03:40
  Yeah. But yeah, so check out, if you
• 1:03:41
  guys are runners, check out Mind Body Marathon.
• 1:03:44
  It's on Spotify and all that. But the episode I hate Running,
• 1:03:47
  I'm on that one. And then there is an episode
• 1:03:49
  where my daughter is on, We did one on autism and Naomi pops in
• 1:03:52
  at the end so you get to see her as well, OK.
• 1:03:54
  Real quick. Yep.
• 1:03:55
  Everybody give a shout out to Michael because he watched the
• 1:03:58
  whole episode and he's. Michael.
• 1:04:00
  Great show tonight guys, so thank you very much.
• 1:04:02
  Michael, thank you. That's awesome.
• 1:04:04
  So we wrap everything up with don't let the bad days when
• 1:04:07
  somebody will miss you, Somebody Loves You.
• 1:04:10
  Don't leave a home in somebody else's heart because.
• 1:04:11
  You're feeling bad. Today, go talk to somebody, go
• 1:04:15
  to bed tomorrow, it's going to be a better.
• 1:04:17
  Day. Tomorrow's always a new day, and
• 1:04:19
  that's what I always try to remind myself.
• 1:04:21
  Always a better day for my Chris Dunham and Sumoa Kormanic.
• 1:04:24
  This is the Chris and Mike show and take next time see you, love
• 1:04:28
  you please. Love you too man Aw.
• 1:04:32
  So there you go. We don't want to fly in this
• 1:04:40
  door to you. Look the table, go inside, feel
• 1:04:48
  the teeth for your life long, your journey.
• 1:04:52
  This is the place where you will go.
• 1:04:58
  Feel the trail behind your eyes. Feel the sound and need.
• 1:05:04
  Take a moment, look at you and see it.
• 1:05:08
  Fight the battle. That's you Mark Wheel.
• 1:05:13
  Fight the battle, but you Mark Wheel.
• 1:05:17
  Who is this baby to your feet? The.
• 1:06:39
  Come down here. You haven't found something.
• 1:06:42
  You see your sands from fighting.
• 1:06:47
  Wait for the dead. Wait.
• 1:06:49
  It's. Closer out here.
• 1:06:51
  But in the wind you ain't no creature.
• 1:06:55
  We're playing found and you took your grits on the almighty day.
• 1:07:02
  You got a dream. Who in your life to keep our
• 1:07:07
  soul in every man. Take your turn behind your eyes.
• 1:07:15
  Feel the soul revolution now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:07:25
  yeah, yeah. Take a moment.
• 1:07:28
  We will see you see him quite the better with you.
• 1:07:33
  More clear You gotta, you gotta you gotta you gotta
• 1:08:04
  you gotta.