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Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane 7-24-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's that time of year. Bertol Berto filling in
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  Speaker 1: for Vic and Mos today. We will be out at
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  Speaker 1: Broncos camp for the first time tomorrow. But the man
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  Speaker 1: who's been there already, of course, he has joins us
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  Speaker 1: on the Ramos Law hotline car accident. He need Ramos
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  Speaker 1: Law medical doctor and attorney Ramas Law dot com. It
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  Speaker 1: is Jeff Lagwall of ESPN dot com.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, Leggy Ornim Fellas?
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  Speaker 3: What year is this? What number of training camp is
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  Speaker 3: this for you?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: For the Broncos. I believe it's twenty two and I
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  Speaker 4: think it's forty overall.
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  Speaker 3: Damn, forty is a lot so much? How how much
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  Speaker 3: does it changed?
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  Speaker 2: How much?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, it's it's compared just in the last
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's changed the last ten years. But how
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  Speaker 3: much of it has changed in the last thirty years?
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  Speaker 3: Training camp in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: I'm probably still wearing the same shirt, have a lot
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  Speaker 4: I got a lot less hair and they hit a
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  Speaker 4: lot less.
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  Speaker 2: I think that would be too.
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  Speaker 1: So like you head into a training camp and every
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  Speaker 1: training camp's kind of got a theme.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Last year obviously it was the quarterbacks and bone Nicks
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  Speaker 1: is the rookie and he's battling for the job. What
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  Speaker 1: do you see as the theme this year heading into camp?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think the theme is you don't really have
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  Speaker 4: a theme other than you know, this team retained more
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  Speaker 4: players from last season than any other team in the league,
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  Speaker 4: and I think that's the I think they're basically saying
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  Speaker 4: they're in a position made the playoffs, ready to see
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  Speaker 4: if they can push farther with roughly the same roster.
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  Speaker 4: And when they chose to make improvements on a wild
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  Speaker 4: card team, they went right at the defense, which was
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  Speaker 4: already good. So those are the things I think that
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  Speaker 4: stick out to me.
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  Speaker 2: And look, they're not doing much.
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  Speaker 4: I mean this looks like a lot like mini camp
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  Speaker 4: right now as they ramp it up. But when you
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  Speaker 4: see the starting eleven on defense on the field just
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  Speaker 4: moving in drills, Uh, it's an impressive group. If if
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  Speaker 4: it stays healthy, Uh, they're gonna be a problem for people.
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  Speaker 3: How much is this offense going to look the same
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  Speaker 3: or look different compared to I mean, Sean Payton talked
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  Speaker 3: about the install and how long it's going to take
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  Speaker 3: and how but how how different do you think the
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  Speaker 3: offense is going to look this season compared to last well.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they know, I think they want Evan Ingram
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  Speaker 4: involved and involved a lot at tight end. I think
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  Speaker 4: they'd like to open up that part of the offense.
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  Speaker 4: They've that group has been you know, the least productive
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  Speaker 4: tight end group in the league and back to back
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  Speaker 4: seasons and for this offense to be everything it has
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  Speaker 4: been in the past with with Sean Payton and New
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  Speaker 4: Orleans especially, the tight end component has been a big
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  Speaker 4: part of it. And you know, I think they want
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  Speaker 4: that here and they believe they need it, and it would,
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  Speaker 4: I think they believe open up a lot of other
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  Speaker 4: things we haven't seen yet, which you know, some more
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  Speaker 4: big impact runs out of play action and more impact
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of the field. If it isn't Courtland
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  Speaker 4: Sutton doing it. You know, I think they just see
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  Speaker 4: that's where the biggest improvement can be made if they
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  Speaker 4: if they can get that position involved the way he
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  Speaker 4: did in New Orleans. You know, over the years, I
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  Speaker 4: think they'll feel like, you know, they'll they'll have the
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  Speaker 4: kind of impact they're going to need to really challenge
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  Speaker 4: in the afc.
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  Speaker 1: UH Leggy Sean Payton talked about it yesterday. Bo Nick's
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  Speaker 1: sophomore slumps year two walls. He seems very unconcerned, are you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I disagree slightly with him that they somehow don't exist.
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  Speaker 4: That was his uh uh. You know, he was just
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  Speaker 4: having a hard time off the top of his head
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  Speaker 4: naming people. That took a huge plumber. And he's right
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  Speaker 4: about that. If you if you had a really good
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  Speaker 4: rookie year quarterback, you're probably gonna have it proved good
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  Speaker 4: year and year two no matter what. But there is
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  Speaker 4: an adjustment, and we've seen it over the years.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It's just if you're the Broncos, you want to limit
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  Speaker 4: that that sort of market correction as people get more
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  Speaker 4: used to you and and have studied you more. Yes
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  Speaker 4: he you know, as he said yesterday, they study you
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  Speaker 4: during the season, but they study you in terms of
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  Speaker 4: how you know, they'll play him that week. In the
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  Speaker 4: off season, they study, you know, what are some of
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  Speaker 4: the big picture things we want to do to to
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  Speaker 4: to make it difficult on the quarterback. And that's kind
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  Speaker 4: of what what happens now, especially in the first month
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  Speaker 4: of the season. And you know, and Sean Payton said
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  Speaker 4: it yesterday too, it's it's very important for this team
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  Speaker 4: to get off to it a better start than it
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  Speaker 4: has and to do that, you know, part of that
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  Speaker 4: is going to be how bo Nicks deals with what
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  Speaker 4: defense as have decided over the last three months that
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  Speaker 4: he won't like very much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, on top of that, when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to what what exactly does that mean? You know, I know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, is it just giving different looks? Like the
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  Speaker 1: way I think the Broncos can counter is if they
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  Speaker 1: have an actual running game where play action could actually
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  Speaker 1: work because they might be scared you might run the
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  Speaker 1: football Like it feels like they can counteract some of
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. But I guess what are the specifics that
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  Speaker 1: you think he's gonna have to deal with this year
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  Speaker 1: as opposed to last year?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think that you know, and we haven't
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  Speaker 4: seen it yet, but my gut is just from talking
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  Speaker 4: to some defensive coaches that I know, is I think,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a lot of Sean Payton's offense is based
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  Speaker 4: on you know, a lot of the movement routes through
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  Speaker 4: the middle of the field, you know the crossers, you
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  Speaker 4: know some of the overlaps, and you know things between
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  Speaker 4: the numbers, and I think defenses initially at least, will
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  Speaker 4: try to push as much of the action outside the
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  Speaker 4: numbers as they can, because that'll challenge bo Nix's arm strength,
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  Speaker 4: it will challenge the time he has in the pocket
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  Speaker 4: to make those throws. They will want to take away
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the quick hit things that he had
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  Speaker 4: a lot of success with last year, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: flash routes and the you know out turn around, you know, boom,
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  Speaker 4: the balls there. They want to take away. They will
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  Speaker 4: want to take away some of that.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously the Broncos know that Sean Payton it's not his
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  Speaker 4: first rodeo with all this, and a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: try to take a lot of that stuff away with
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  Speaker 4: the Saints too. That's where the tight end comes in.
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  Speaker 4: You start having an impact in contested situations. With a
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  Speaker 4: tight end in the middle of the field, it's a
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  Speaker 4: lot harder for defenses to dictate sure, to make you
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  Speaker 4: push the ball outside when you don't want to.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think the Broncos will have a thousand yard
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  Speaker 3: rusher of this season? Do you think Sean Payne will
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  Speaker 3: hand the ball off that many times this year?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've always said he has said he'd like
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  Speaker 2: to run the ball more.
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  Speaker 4: But I am in the I'll believe it when I
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  Speaker 4: see it department, you know, And I think they might
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  Speaker 4: just spread the snaps around so much that it would
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  Speaker 4: be difficult, you know, to say they're gonna have a
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  Speaker 4: thousand yard rusher. But I do think, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: quote unquote starter when games open, I think Dobbins will
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  Speaker 4: be that guy the most often.
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  Speaker 1: Who do you think as far as new addition to
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  Speaker 1: the team is going to catch the eye of people
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  Speaker 1: in camp most.
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  Speaker 4: Craig Relaw, you know, and if you you know, if
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  Speaker 4: you care about defense, if you if you don't mind
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  Speaker 4: not watching the ball for ten minutes. I watched him
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  Speaker 4: for about four seconds yesterday, and that's that's a different
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  Speaker 4: kind of player than they've had at linebacker, you know
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  Speaker 4: for a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: That's a big guy with movement skills and and really
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  Speaker 4: good reactions to the ball, understands what he's looking at
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  Speaker 4: all of that. If he if he's healthy, fifteen sixteen,
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  Speaker 4: seventeen games this year, this defense goes from already one
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  Speaker 4: of the best two or three in the league to
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  Speaker 4: a really elite level.
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  Speaker 1: Does that a play to Hufanga too?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean that their energy. Guys, their experience,
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  Speaker 4: they've played big games, they've been on good teams. You
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  Speaker 4: can just tell they bring that air you know, of
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  Speaker 4: success with them. And I think that's part of the reason.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I've always been a draft first guy, but
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  Speaker 4: if you're going to go in free agency and you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have to you know, all the time in the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: you want to bring success in. You know, you want
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  Speaker 4: to bring people who've had success, know what it takes,
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  Speaker 4: you know, know what the requirements are for success. And
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  Speaker 4: I think that's what those two guys bring, and along
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  Speaker 4: with really good abilities if they're both healthy, really good
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  Speaker 4: chance this is the best defense in the league because
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people thought it was the defense in
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  Speaker 4: the league last year.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you think the Broncos went strength for strength,
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  Speaker 3: Because I mean, obviously the defense was was the primary
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  Speaker 3: unit and they're like, let's just let's add all let's
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  Speaker 3: just get better on the defensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you think the Broncos made that decision? What
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  Speaker 3: is just the free agents available or they're like, let's
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  Speaker 3: just yeah, we are a defensive team, let's keep doing it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't think Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 4: Ever, say he's a defense you know, he coaches a
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  Speaker 4: defensive team. But I think he understands and believes. I
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  Speaker 4: think he believes he can scheme a lot of things
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  Speaker 4: on offense. You know, if he has the right players,
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  Speaker 4: the guys he wants. I think he's always gonna believe
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  Speaker 4: he can scheme things on offense to fix, to repair.
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  Speaker 2: But he knows.
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  Speaker 4: Look at the AFC, look at what you have to
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  Speaker 4: navigate to even get to the conference championship game. The
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  Speaker 4: list of quarterbacks is just epic. I don't remember a
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  Speaker 4: time really when it was quite like this. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you can have a franchise quarterback and not make the
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  Speaker 4: playoffs very easily, as Joe Burrow and the Bengals last year,
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  Speaker 4: but to navigate that, you have to be impactful on defense.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's what he sees. If you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: make that.
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  Speaker 4: Little extra push, yeah you're gonna need touchdowns and you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna need a good quarterback, but you're gonna have to
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  Speaker 4: limit somebody else's franchise quarterback on downs that matter. And
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  Speaker 4: if you look at it, Buffalo did the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: They attack some deficiencies on defense, third downs, some pass defense.
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  Speaker 2: They did the same thing. Really, the Broncos.
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  Speaker 1: Did lady last thing. Real quick, we're just going through
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  Speaker 1: this the NFL Top one hundred, which is voted on
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  Speaker 1: by the players, the quarterbacks that are on this list.
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  Speaker 1: Bo Nicks just came up at number sixty four. Best
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  Speaker 1: player in the league is voted on by the players.
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  Speaker 1: That's in front of Tua, Dak Donald and Jordan Love.
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  Speaker 1: Do you agree with that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think there's some recency bias in there. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's Dak didn't play. You know, the seasons Dak had
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  Speaker 4: and two ahead last year impacted by injury. So there's
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  Speaker 4: always recency bias when you ask quarter current players about
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  Speaker 4: current players.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, I think that's what you see.
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  Speaker 4: I think bo Is is probably a little high if
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  Speaker 4: you were if you were asking gms to rank the
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  Speaker 4: top one hundred players, he finishes in the top one hundred,
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  Speaker 4: I would guess from my GM folks I talked to,
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  Speaker 4: But maybe not that high. Yes, that's the one I
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  Speaker 4: would say if I'm if I'm a general manager at
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  Speaker 4: ten thousand feet just looking at it, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with the data or whatever, that that's the one you
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  Speaker 4: would challenge. And some of that is just the length
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  Speaker 4: of resume.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff we at ESPN dot com. He joined us every
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  Speaker 1: single Thursday. And uh, Jeff, I won't bother you in
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  Speaker 1: your bubble tomorrow, but I will see you tomorrow at
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  Speaker 1: Broncos camp.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm easy to spot, as you know, Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: Leggwild always appreciate.
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  Speaker 2: It, buddy, Thank you. Take care of fous. We see
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  Speaker 2: it all.
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