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Episode 24: War Is Primitive · The Social Evolution Podcast

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey everyone, welcome to the social evolution podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Patrick Barney, I'm one of the hosts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have their host, Curtis Frazier, sitting right next to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think today we want to talk about the primitive, the stupidity and primitive nature of war what with the strike on our ran
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[SPEAKER_00]: Iran and then Iran's strike back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is real and and all this current mentioned Venezuela.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know that no new wars right guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No new wars only Democrats want war.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Venezuela.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a little that's a little older at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, let's you know just to kidnapa.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a legally elected president of another country that's what America does why love how you know the uh... the right comes on says well they weren't you know in relation to uh... you know both places honestly they say that the leaders weren't treating their people right so america had to step in right and you know
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you put it like that, well yeah, I definitely agree with you that America is supposed to be the icon, the Bastien of Freedom and Justice here on Planet Earth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a shitty country and you're not doing your people right, you better watch out because America doesn't stand for that shit, you know, we're going to spread democracy and freedom and justice and the American way all across this globe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about North Korea?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we doing anything about North Korea?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm reasonably certain that every North Korean Except for the ones that are like in the military are probably and even, you know I'd say to some degrees some of those people too because I'm pretty sure he makes everyone serve in the military over there for at least some amount of time But I like I said I'm pretty sure that they're not happy either
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, considering how dark their country is at night, because nobody's got lights on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, how they only are allowed to have certain haircuts that are state-approved for men, women, you know, they're not the fuck outta here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me, they're the truth, they're people, we had to get on in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they have oil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you want to prevent them from getting nuclear arms mean while North Korea over here I guess we're not fucking with them because they already got nuclear arms because they said piss off We're gonna do what the fuck we want Iran has been on the verge of having nuclear weapons for like 30 years
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah 30 years exactly like every And you know, they've been they've been two weeks away from getting nuclear weapons for 30 Fugging years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had weapons of mass destruction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what Bush said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he said that about Iraq
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm sorry, my bad, Iraq, who also had weapons of master strategy, yeah, right, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's having endless war in the Middle East.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this, you know, you know what, we can call this instead of, you know, the war of Iran or the war of Israel or the war, we can call it Trump, the Donald J. Trump, war of freedom is what we can call the war of desert freedom, the Donald J. Trump, war of desert freedom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fucking more on you have to name everything after ever he doesn't feel valid anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I definitely think the true sign of security that your example of North Korea pretty much puts the lie to to any of this bullshit about like we're trying to you know help these people out like
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we were trying to help people in Iran, why the hell wouldn't we help people in North Korea?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why the hell wouldn't we help people who are being genocide in Gaza?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, why wouldn't we, why wouldn't we help Palestinians?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would we help the people that are being kept in concentration camps in China?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Weager Muslims being kept in concentration camps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is...
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not interested.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not too busy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're too busy with this other bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have oil.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like any, any like thinking person should be able to think of this the real that we are, you know, the reason why we prop up Israel so much is because we want an ally in the Middle East.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We want someone who is basically
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[SPEAKER_00]: the face of the United States in the Middle East.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's Israel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there are proxy in the Middle East and all these other countries around them have a bunch of fucking oil and we like oil.
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[SPEAKER_00]: we like money and oil equals money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oil equals money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And oil is more important than 175 people killed in the first attack on February 20.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Israel is really slash American bombing, which started the war, which killed the killed there supreme leader, the ayatola,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, I don't necessarily care about the death of some debug guy like Kameini who, you know, from what I understand was an audit crap, you know, it's just we can hold two ideas in our mind in the same time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, Kameini was not a good dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two, we shouldn't be bombing everyone and killing, you know, innocent people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, well, it's not like he was going to live forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, wasn't that dude like in his 80s or so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was pretty old like he was on what his fuck man like, how are they last out there when you're in charge of a country and you have the best medical care that they have to offer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're a little bit longer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're still.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why presidents make it to their 90s regularly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is still a finite number of years that an earth human can stay around this rock and He was reaching the we'll call it crunch time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like realistically He probably wouldn't have been leader there for more than another half decade and you know a half decade ago We were a year away from COVID and COVID was basically yesterday if you want to talk about the you know like The passage of time With examples
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, War in and of itself is a terrible thing the humans have been doing, basically since the first tribe bumped in and found out there were other humans on Earth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Most of the idea has been to kill them instead of trying to learn what they know and work together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, to be a civilized planet instead of this fucking war zone where we will literally eat our own kind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are cannibals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: cannibals exist if you listen to like you know your conspiracy theorist dumbfugs Yeah, they're serving babies at McDonald's well, but they're not they're not actually serving at least a My knowledge, you know of like as being a reasonable rational human being who doesn't believe someone who barely got out of high school And has a YouTube channel and tries to you know Selfices horses shit, right and say it's chocolate
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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, I mean, cannibals, some some Pacific island groups have practice cannibalism, some South American groups.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Typically, like you would eat your enemy to gain his spirit and his power.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so like that's a real thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like Arby's has people on the menu.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got the meats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just not that Yeah, Arby's is just serving the tasty tasty meats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love Arby's personally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Arby's is great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if I could get my Arby's to shave the meat for me the way I like it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would eat their meat for how do you like it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it chipped
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, chip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I like that, you know, like as thin as you can make it and like I've had I'm cut it with a knife and give it to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like that is not the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just not like I know I appreciate that you're trying but I think that's reasonable like a nice a nice super thinly sliced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Me is is pretty nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like shaved or chipped is what you tell the person at the deli.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Yeah, so you know last time I went there was been a while with I said Yeah, we just we just kind of bunch of me and I was like, okay So you're not gonna do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, they're not gonna do that So I went I went Nate somewhere else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I went to three fast food places that day and they all said things I didn't like so I went home and Made something else, but that's
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just me, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't need to get let's we're getting off topic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, now if they were kind of playing Arby's to a ran maybe that is a that's a mission I can get behind Get ready to come any and and make sure that Arby's is throughout Iran but in reality
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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, like returning to reality, we're the reason that Camini was there in the first place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, prior to, so let me look this up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, America has one of those great reputations of sending like the CIA and do another country to
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[SPEAKER_01]: You serve whoever the leader is and implant whatever whoever we want to see in charge because they're going to play ball with us So I'm not trying to like, you know, incriminate people or drop names here, but like I'm pretty sure that Kermit Roosevelt is dead, so I can say that without offending anyone right so you know like that he would be the worst of the Roosevelt as far as I'm concerned
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this says that Ayatola Community took power in June 1989, prior to that Iran and Iraq were war from 1981 to 1989, and prior to this war, I'm pretty sure Iran was a relatively stable democracy
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[SPEAKER_00]: The government were not unified in Iran at that time as they became under a community, you know Then we propped up Saddam Hussein in Iraq and Iraq and Iran went to war and we propped up a community So I kind of feel like all this destabilization is our fault and Oh, you're a communist Right
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, like our wars, you're a comedy, you're a fucking socialist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you think, you think all people are deserving of human rights, you fuck you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's, that's actually funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, a guy, so there, there's enough, there's a guy I have worked with who has a lot of this similar political opinions in me and we talk a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, and I heard him talking to another person
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the other person just said to him, you're a socialist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I overheard this, and I joined it, and I told this other guy, I was like, you know, I'm a socialist too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, no, you're not, not you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, yeah, I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was an opportunity for me to explain to him what's wrong with capitalism.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, actually, to him, don't understand what I was saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, I said, you know, capitalism is when you've got 10 people who work for a company.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's say the company makes a million dollars if you were to divide that money evenly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: among the 10 people, they need to make 100 grand a year, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right, but under capitalism, the one guy who's the owner, just because he's the owner, and just, you know, he does a smidgen of the work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the one who gets to say, well, I get 700,000 of this, and you guys,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get 3,000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 30.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you all get 30 grand of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's capitalism and he he this guy seem like oh, I'm like oh, he's like okay, I'm picking up all you're putting down So I mean, you know, I'm not saying he's becoming a socialist, but I feel like good I liked him a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like that a lot better than how capitalist like to explain at least they did when I was like the fifth grade, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know the cow metaphor I've never heard the cow metaphor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's like, you know, let's say you have a cow
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[SPEAKER_01]: and in communism, the government comes and takes your cow and that's it, you know, socialism, it's like, I forget exactly how it is, but basically you have a cow and either the government controls it or the government makes you produce milk for everybody else, but in capitalism, you buy a bowl and just make all the cows you want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That better and all the little kids are like, yeah, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If everybody had a cow and they all made milk would we all just buy each other's milk and that's the economy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I got that's so funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're communists for thinking around should be
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[SPEAKER_01]: run we should do it something and that we shouldn't prop up fucked up you know religious fundamentalist leaders you know all as historically when a religion takes over a government that country it really grows that's the point where that's the catalyst it becomes a true economic and so show the crowd
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, kind of like how we've increasingly become a Christian country and things have so much But yeah, we've increasingly become a Christian fundamentalist country and like everything is great here Everyone's happy like everyone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody goes into medical debt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody goes into school lunch debt
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody, you know, nobody goes bankrupt because they can't afford to buy insulin or whatever, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're definitely not locking up any foreigner who's trying to come over here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, we know, we won't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because, well, you know, you know, actually I had this not really conversation with my mother, but she started going over how my aunt went through all of the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Necessary channels to get over here from Russia and I was like, and of course this was 25 fucking years ago So my my aunt is Russian oh, okay, and Is that your dad's no no my my father has no siblings so be my mother's brother married or Russian woman
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and you know, I cut her off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, you know, she she went through all the channels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, yeah, I'm married in American Right, like do you know how much easier it is to get over here like that and it is to come here with your country from like, you know, that hates you and your poor and you're trying to move your family across like you understand That you should be able to get over here like you could literally be an illegal stow away on the boat and America would still let you in
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know that right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: None of that matters though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: None of that matters at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I ask her who Jesus would turn down which which one of our neighbors would Jesus say you're not technically our neighbor because you didn't go through proper channels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus would stand there at the board and say, oh no, you and your family, you need to turn around to get back into that chaotic chaotic governmental system which you live.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus, if you guys could all just get together and make that a better place, like are you
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jesus famously hated the Everyone the poor and the immigrant and the you know, he hated all those yeah You love my neighbor unless it's over this invisible line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't you hate that son of a bitch
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's not your neighbor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is your that is not your name when you're talking I don't she either hung up on me or just completely checked out and changed the subject But either way, it's like she told I know actually she told me that I don't know Jesus
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[SPEAKER_01]: So until I get to know Jesus, I have no right to say about what he would.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he obviously you don't I don't know Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus kept me alive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He would be do this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was famously unwelcoming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He famously did not want to help strangers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he said fear the stranger, rock the stranger, lock him in a box, definitely separated from his wife and kids, that's what he said about the stranger, that's what Jesus said about him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She just said, if you see somebody walking down the street with no shirt on, by God, you're wearing a shirt he learned it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you give them your shirt, you're a fucking communist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is not what Jesus wanted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what Jesus said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They said, you're a ruin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, y'all mean, he famously hated it when, you know, you gave your shirt to your brother, and, and that's not your brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's from the other part of the desert, which makes him evil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's so human.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's your duty to kill him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Outside or bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take his resources.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was, that was, that was Jesus' sin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Outsideers, bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Outsideers, bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: murder, murder, fine, murder, or fine of out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as long as they came in, I mean, we all know that Jesus was he never immigrated from anywhere in the entirety of his life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was conceived in one place and he lived there until he was crucified.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was not, he never moved his pregnant mom didn't have to cross any borders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if she did,
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[SPEAKER_00]: she filled out all the proper paperwork to do so he didn't go into other countries or nations like he wasn't baptized in a river between you know between two nations all that stuff I mean in reality no we are we are being extremely extremely
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, Jesus would want war with Iran.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He would be like, go in, take their oil, kill their women, take them in slaves, and yeah, they don't deserve it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if they deserved it, I would have their side in the war.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because as we all know, whatever there's a war, half the army's back by God and the other half isn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we have winners in loser side, because of because of Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We, we, we don't grasp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And be nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We support one another in every way that we can because the weakest among us, the worst, the lowest is our actual state of planetary prestige.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it is not based on the king on top, it's based on the peasant on the bottle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where we are socially economically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: should be the scale to which we judge one another and ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I under that, I don't know what it would take to get us humans on a war with other humans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for some reason, there is a constant war on this planet somewhere, multiple constant wars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Someone is trying to kill someone else over their made-up ideology that it really has no effect on them,
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[SPEAKER_01]: is not the same as whatever ideologies held by this area.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Resources that, you know, I mean, honestly, we should be sharing resources.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't need all of them for yourself over here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need them over here, over there, the monetary system, which is another made-up human reason to kill your brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, realistically,
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[SPEAKER_01]: everyone on planet earth is some number of cousin to you right you know like if you just go back I was listening to my kids mom talk about I'm related to this king and that king and we're royalty and I'm like okay So let's go back five generations
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, you have two parents and four grandparents and eight great grandparents and 32 great-great-grandparents and 64 great-great-great-great-grandparents.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it goes from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: four grandparents, eight great grandparents, 16 great great grandparents, 32 great great great grandparents.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's how it works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then you have to have 64 great great great great grandparents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they all only had one kid, now that we're back to there, you've got 64
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's not that big, but most of these families had like, you know, nine kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, five generations ago, we'd be at 128 of this level of grandparent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a lot of fucking people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like if they each had to say two kids,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, how many fucking cousins do you have on that level, you know, so many, it's like you go out to like your ninth, whatever removed cousin like we're pretty much all fucking related right is my point mathematically it is impossible for us to not all be to some degree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: related.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's all in a limited number of families.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's pretty, you know, we, we, the human race traces itself back to a single group of ancestors in the African River Valley, some 30, 40, I forget exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think homo sapiens have been around 200,000 years or something when it's something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh enough, we should be further than this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We should have gotten it right by now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We should have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We should be obvious this isn't working.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I got a little off topic there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My point is that, you know, 300, 350,000 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so 350,000 years of people breeding and making more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we're pretty much all related and yet we can't we can't seem to have figured this out yet no it's like i mean we're here it just in america alone we have rival towns in the same state right we have rival states
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[SPEAKER_01]: that are adjacent in this country like I was just thinking like you know if you're if you live in Ohio and you're not back in Ohio state whether you want to college there or not right is a relevant like I get it's Ohio state yeah I like I get a shit about Ohio state versus Michigan like I don't get it right except I don't give a shitty they're I don't watch any sports sports are fucking dumb
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, fortunately.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I wanted to go to the to the the Colosseum and watch people get eaten by lions, I'm not doing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't because I'm fucking civilized.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did deal with insurance people today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like every time I call somebody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they don't have a record of it but the last person I talked to said this was an all-well this is no I found it but you have to call this other number and oh no well I we can I'm going to move you over here and like the contractors like why are they where are they jerking you around like this I was like well it's you know their job is to protect that corporate dollar just because you have insurance doesn't mean that they should ever have to pay out for anything
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I actually read a pretty pretty neat little quote about medical insurance specifically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The quote sets something like that the crazy part about medical insurance is the total lack of a reason for existing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like it doesn't improve care, it doesn't make anything more efficient, it doesn't make things cheaper, it doesn't improve health outcomes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If it really is the opposite, literally all it does is put money into the pockets of middlemen who do nothing, you know, like they add nothing to the medical supply chain, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they don't do anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I supported Luigi Manjoni because that man killed hundreds of thousands of people just because I mean, I don't think we need to get money to there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Luigi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you mean that the healthcare CEO he killed killed hundreds of thousands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Support him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He killed a mass murderer.
26:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has a mass murderer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He chose money over human life countless times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And somebody chose their life over his.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm totally fun with man, Gianni.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like I get it pop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you don't know that he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a ledger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a ledger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are a lot of, there are a lot of details still to be worked out in his case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, either way, they need a scapegoat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure, though, they got a chart somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of those murders where they solve it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unlike the murders where they don't really give a fuck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, the murders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, we don't know who shot two-pock, and that's not really important right now.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't care about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We should try to figure out who killed Tute and Common.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, you can fucking figure that out.
27:34
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, all right, all right, all right.
27:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Fucking moron.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody died 30 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have no idea how to even start.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: But, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, our time is up, so I just want to reiterate that war is messed up, where this is a war of aggression and Iran, it's disgusting, it's all about oil, it's not about
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[SPEAKER_00]: helping anybody out or saving anybody, if that were the case, they wouldn't bomb just bomb indiscriminately and kill innocent people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They killed children.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they children like bomb like 7 to 12 or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, to fucking war crime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They fucking bomb to school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it would be a war crime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If only if we lose the war.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, like that, you know, you wonder, like, is the U.S. time coming, you know, when, like, our empire finally falls?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it seems like we pretty much ran the course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're coming up on our anniversary, you know, of 250 years and that's longer than anybody thought it was going to last.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's a quarter of millennia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I hope you've enjoyed our discussion of war and its horse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't agree with us, get off our ride.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, kill yourself, asshole.