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NFL Week 8 MNF Showdown | Giants @ Steelers | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear lifting. What's up everyone? Tyler Tamberline
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  Speaker 1: here aka Totag and Tambo back for another edition of
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  Speaker 1: the Monday Night Football Showdown Show here on the ship
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  Speaker 1: at Nation YouTube station. Giants Steelers gonna break it all down,
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  Speaker 1: Lots to talk about here, captains, roster, construction, ownership, position
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  Speaker 1: by position, fan duel, and more. Got my guys, Hoopster
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  Speaker 1: and title here with me. As always, if you haven't
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  Speaker 1: had a great week yet, I know lots of members
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  Speaker 1: over the nation did, but you still got time to
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  Speaker 1: get it done. Week eight, Let's make it great Hoopster,
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  Speaker 1: bring you in here first man. Giants Steelers fun one
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  Speaker 1: tonight to round out Week eight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, another one of these games that look not super exciting,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, as always, big prize pools around the industry.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk through it so you can find
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  Speaker 2: you know, the the Pittsburgh what they're favored by like
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  Speaker 2: six six and a half in this game. Giants have
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  Speaker 2: been an absolute train wreck recently. Pricing on DK at
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  Speaker 2: First Liance looks relatively soft, but I guess it would
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  Speaker 2: be hard to justify putting big price tags on some
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  Speaker 2: of these names. So you know, we'll go through break
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  Speaker 2: it all down so you can get to the Winter
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  Speaker 2: Circle lot tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, title, I'll bring you in before I go to
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  Speaker 1: the chat. But like man I always say it, I'll
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  Speaker 1: give you my thoughts on the slate. I will have
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  Speaker 1: to be talked into something tonight. It's just really tricky.
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  Speaker 1: There's you know, the Tracy Singletary stuff, the Nause Warren
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  Speaker 1: stuff and all that. It can make for some uniques,
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  Speaker 1: but it can also make for just a you know,
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  Speaker 1: a tough one to build out from and picking your
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  Speaker 1: captains and all that stuff. We'll do our best to
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  Speaker 1: break it all down. And how you do, my friend?
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  Speaker 1: How is your week so far?
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday wasn't great and I got some back on the showdown,
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  Speaker 3: but Mainslay a little tough, needed a couple pieces the center,
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  Speaker 3: Tillman's of the World e chanted a solid Kate out
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  Speaker 3: and National tight End. Oh my goodness, human psychology.
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  Speaker 2: That was one of the best part as we on
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  Speaker 2: it during the show. As soon as these mofos are going, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, man, I wish I could retract some
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  Speaker 2: of those words.
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  Speaker 3: I was sick of the same thing. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 3: what it's the theo Johnson and Pat Fryman. We're gonna
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  Speaker 3: keep it up today. I don't know, it's it's not
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  Speaker 3: a fun game. Thirty six and a half total, six
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  Speaker 3: point favorites, two bad quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 4: But it's a lot of money up top, and that's
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  Speaker 4: all that matters. So hopefully we can get up there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get after it here. We got go collect Sean,
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  Speaker 1: Nate Allen, our guy Tweezy all in there, you know Redfish.
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  Speaker 1: Nick came in and said, finally caught a live show.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's an old joke, but to Graham ever
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  Speaker 1: get a wheelchair hoop? Forget the wheelchair? Like like I
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  Speaker 1: always say, but should we do the giveaway today? Come
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  Speaker 1: up with something for the dumb d and then double
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  Speaker 1: the giveaway if some if he shows up himself, you know,
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  Speaker 1: three quarters through the way of the show, what do
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  Speaker 1: you want to give away today? Let's do it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do Yeah, we'll do a membership or a ticket.
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  Speaker 2: Well let's let's uh, let's ask the chat. Actually no,
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  Speaker 2: I can't really ask the chat because if it's a number,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna want a ticket. If it's a non member,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna want to member.
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  Speaker 1: I think let's do a ticket. Yeah, let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what's the let's pull.
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  Speaker 1: It up like, yeah, what's for Tonight's.
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  Speaker 2: Late obviously have the million maker, but it's got to
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  Speaker 2: be something a little bigger. What's the what's the single entry?
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  Speaker 2: Let's see the single entry? Will do one hundred dollars
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  Speaker 2: single entry.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, here here's the contest. And yes, never forget
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  Speaker 1: who does still owe us a shoey shout out Kenny
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  Speaker 1: for that. We're getting his ass soon. This is bullshit,
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  Speaker 1: but listen to this one hundred dollars single entry ticket
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  Speaker 1: giveaway tonight. The game is simple. If you're new or old.
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  Speaker 1: You're old, you'll especially know it, and we'll give away
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  Speaker 1: a month membership as well. We'll give away two let's
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  Speaker 1: pick two month membership, all access to the eighty five
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  Speaker 1: dollars month or and a one hundred dollars single you
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  Speaker 1: will pick. But let's do this. The guy Double D
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  Speaker 1: used to be in the chat. This is the fun
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  Speaker 1: in it. He's disappeared on us this season. We have
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  Speaker 1: not seen Double D the entire season. Yet. He used
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  Speaker 1: to be there for every single showdown show telling us
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  Speaker 1: about handbuilding his lineups at the factory, he'd have some weeks.
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  Speaker 1: We would wager does he have half them done? All
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  Speaker 1: of them done? What's the over under playing prices? Right
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  Speaker 1: with it? Let us know your best response to what
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  Speaker 1: you think happened to our guy double D that used
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  Speaker 1: to handbuild his lineups in the factory and show up
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  Speaker 1: no matter what, let's give it.
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  Speaker 2: Or was he the crane operator?
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  Speaker 4: He was factory? There's the Travis something was in there?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's Canadian?
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  Speaker 2: Double D? Was it was also a guess.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, that was the other we had. We had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people around last year, but that was
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  Speaker 1: the one title. We'll get to it.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hop right in. Let's get your grand Scheme overview here,
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  Speaker 1: and then you could take us into sort of the
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  Speaker 1: captains and how you're thinking about it from there.
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  Speaker 4: Grand Scheme overview very mispriced.
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  Speaker 3: Running back on the Giants side, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: DraftKings still thinks Devin Singletary was the starter. He's priced
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  Speaker 3: like it an eighty four hundred, but even though he
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  Speaker 3: came back after injury, Tyger and Tracy kept the starting role.
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  Speaker 3: He has four k less at forty four hundred. Big
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  Speaker 3: miss price right away to start it off after that.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously it's a low total, which is going to put
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  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers defense two bad quarterbacks. People like picking end
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  Speaker 3: on Danny Dimes. I think Steelers defense is going to
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  Speaker 3: be pretty highly owned, but it's just going to be.
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  Speaker 4: The main skill position.
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  Speaker 3: Guys, if you look at the stone right now, Malik
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  Speaker 3: Neighbors wide receiver one on the Giants will get a
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  Speaker 3: good amount of ownership. George Pickens on the Steelers wide
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  Speaker 3: receiver one, we'll get a good bit of ownership. Waddelle Robinson,
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  Speaker 3: he looks very fairly priced, a great full point PPR
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  Speaker 3: guy for DraftKings fair price, seget seventy eight hundred, not
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  Speaker 3: much competition in that area against Singletary's six hundred more,
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  Speaker 3: Jaylen Warren four hundred less. I have a little intro in,
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  Speaker 3: but both back up running backs. The tight Ends I
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  Speaker 3: mean fired with priced up a little bit at sixty two.
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  Speaker 3: I still think he gets some ownership. I do think
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  Speaker 3: tight Ends probably catch a little steam after yesterday, So
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  Speaker 3: that's an interesting point. As far as my favorite captains,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Tyrone Tracy's by far the most mispriced, and
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  Speaker 3: you can do a lot with them when you do
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  Speaker 3: play him up top. You can leave a bunch of salary,
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  Speaker 3: you can run five ones, you can there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of different scripts you can go there. They are six
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  Speaker 3: point dogs, though, and I do think Singletary will probably
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  Speaker 3: work in a little more than last week, So I
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  Speaker 3: think I prefer in the flex. I'll have some at
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  Speaker 3: Captain by far my two favorite captains.
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  Speaker 4: George Pickens, he just he looks good with Russ. Russ
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  Speaker 4: threw it up a bunch to him.
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  Speaker 3: He's a big play guy in a game that's not
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  Speaker 3: supposed to score many points, and scoring can be at
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  Speaker 3: a premium. I want guys that I know have that
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  Speaker 3: twenty plus point upside to break it. It's Pickings right there.
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  Speaker 3: It's Neighbors. Neighbors does feel if I have to leave
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  Speaker 3: off one though up top man he's expensive that Captain
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  Speaker 3: fifteen thousand. I'm gonna play some, but I do prefer Pickens.
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  Speaker 3: I think I prefer WANDL for a good bit less owned.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna play Nause. It's cross but one of the
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  Speaker 3: best touchdown props on the slate. Nobody is expected to score.
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  Speaker 3: Nause is the best though at plus one ZHO five.
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  Speaker 3: I'll let you talk about the quarterbacks. I think I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna play them both because they have rushing upside, a
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  Speaker 3: low scoring game, pricings fare, they can both spread it
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  Speaker 3: out a little bit. So I guess I just talked
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  Speaker 3: myself into some But I don't think Danny Dimes is
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  Speaker 3: good and I don't think Russell Wilson's very good.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think very many people on this
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  Speaker 1: slate at all are good. I'll have some more takes
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  Speaker 1: on the quarterbacks, so I think there's a different angle
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  Speaker 1: to look at for this slate when we get there.
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  Speaker 1: But some good ones coming in, maybe hoop if you
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  Speaker 1: got some early ones you like, But just real quick
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  Speaker 1: before you do that, I do want to know, just
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  Speaker 1: so everybody knows, you know, this is the setup here.
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  Speaker 1: The membership we're talking about giving away is the eighty
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  Speaker 1: five dollars that's still on if you want to go
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  Speaker 1: get signed up. It's everything we offer ship to Demiser
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  Speaker 1: for the six sports, eight major sports across the board,
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  Speaker 1: MLB about to round out but are still covering it
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  Speaker 1: for Showdown and then I am running the dry run
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  Speaker 1: over here on this side. Who But if there's any
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  Speaker 1: comments you see early that you want to flash up
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  Speaker 1: by all means go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is definitely a good one. Double
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  Speaker 2: d's OSHA violations building lineups while driving the forklift. He
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  Speaker 2: got a d w HB violation driving well hand building.
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  Speaker 2: I like that one.
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  Speaker 1: Putting the acronyms on him and everything.
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  Speaker 2: That's definitely going yeah. I mean it's a tough slate.
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  Speaker 2: I mean who it could end up being like a
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  Speaker 2: raw points sort of slate like twenty fantasy points. Could
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  Speaker 2: be the guy that you need in the captain spot.
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  Speaker 2: Wide receivers always have the advantage, so guys like Pickings neighbors,
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  Speaker 2: Wandel Robinson in a trailing game script, and then you
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  Speaker 2: have like the underpriced, like really underpriced Tyrone Tracy Junior
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  Speaker 2: like we talked about at forty four one hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 2: Like you could potentially play him up top and then
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  Speaker 2: just get five guys that are needed on this slate,
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  Speaker 2: the quarterbacks. I guess a little more interesting. Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: It's life comes at you fast. I mean I've shipped
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  Speaker 2: on this guy since I started doing DFS fantasy shows,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I don't know, twelve years ago, ten years ago,
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  Speaker 2: and now I'm potentially recommending him as the play I mean,
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  Speaker 2: guess he looked pretty good a few rush attempts. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the Jets might not be a very good team, so
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  Speaker 2: who the hell knows, But yeah, I think he's in
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  Speaker 2: play up there. Daniel Jones has looked like complete shit,
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  Speaker 2: and Steelers defense probably pretty good. I mean, it's gotta
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: be one of the more difficult spots for an opposing
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  Speaker 2: team to come in and score points in Pittsburgh primetime game.
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming some chili weather. So I don't know about
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, but an interesting talking point is a guy
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  Speaker 2: like you know, Devin Singletary who has a real price
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  Speaker 2: tag but a pretty relatively low projection. But yeah, let's
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  Speaker 2: let's talk through the dry run and seeho we get.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, will in a sec single day of the grindo
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  Speaker 1: quite different, say, this is the actual situation here where
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  Speaker 1: we've got i mean priced up. Yeah, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's anything like last night. That was obviously needing
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things to go your way for that
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  Speaker 1: to get there. But it happens. I saw another one
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  Speaker 1: here that made me laugh too. Is this even a
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: thing anymore? That he dropped everything to play on super Draft.
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: He doesn't need us anymore? Is that site still around?
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: Not to make fun of other sites, but we don't
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: ever hop on here and promote random sites just to
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: get the affiliate deals and stuff. Pretty proud of that,
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: to be honest. So I'm not sure if they're still
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: kicking it. But that's interesting if that's where our guy
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: double D ended up. I was trying to see there's
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  Speaker 1: any others here hit the ten hit ten leg parlay
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  Speaker 1: and is now residing in the Caribbean islands. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: what seems to be the ultimate thought. But this is
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: the dry run. George pickens up top Tracy, who title
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  Speaker 1: mentioned earlier. Obviously he keeps that share up with Singletary
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  Speaker 1: coming back last week. The tough part is to know
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  Speaker 1: if that share is going to stay that way, because
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: another week healthier and maybe he gets another shot. Malik
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  Speaker 1: neighbors sixteen percent, pretty spread out on these four Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: Then it actually goes to the Steelers d and sort
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  Speaker 1: of drops down from there. Let me see if there's
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  Speaker 1: any other Daniel Jones hops in there as well, So
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  Speaker 1: Top five or Pickings Tracy Wilson neighbors Jones whop any
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  Speaker 1: other additional thoughts when you see it that.
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  Speaker 2: Way, Yeah, I think when you just run it, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I meant the defense is going to pop up. I
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  Speaker 2: mean you look at it and they're I don't know
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  Speaker 2: in terms of projections, like somewhere in the eight to
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  Speaker 2: ten range in terms of where they stand, like just
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  Speaker 2: raw projections on the slate, So they'll start to show
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  Speaker 2: up in teams if you don't make that adjustment. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean kind of what I expected. I would say, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I like pulling up the flex and seeing if anything's
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  Speaker 2: out of line there, and I would say not really.
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  Speaker 2: Can you scroll down like a little bit more on there,
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  Speaker 2: just to see if there's Yeah, on the flex, guys
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  Speaker 2: going down, what is Calvin Austin. Yeah, No, that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's not too crazy. So nothing really out
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  Speaker 2: of whax. So yeah, if you can go back click
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  Speaker 2: back on the captains.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of double D week, By the way double ds,
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  Speaker 1: you look at it, maybe it's a sign that we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about Davie.
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  Speaker 2: It's a sign. Yeah, maybe it is a sign. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: nothing too crazy stands out here on the initial dry run.
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  Speaker 2: I mean kind of what we expect.
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  Speaker 1: So it's what you said, though, I will say this
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  Speaker 1: because it's tying together everything you said, at least how
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  Speaker 1: I interpreted it. Sometimes when we watch and listen to
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  Speaker 1: each other, we get ideas. But what you said is
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: probably true, right. The optimizer is going to look based
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  Speaker 1: on raw projections and think around these raw points. Pickens,
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  Speaker 1: Tracy Wilson, Neighbors d Jones pretty obvious, and because we
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: have Tracy at forty four hundred, who when you're not
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  Speaker 1: used to get captain, you can just jam him in
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  Speaker 1: the flex. I believe we're getting what almost eighty five
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  Speaker 1: percent or something of Tracy total, so it's just jamming
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  Speaker 1: him when you have him. It allows you to fit
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  Speaker 1: all these guys and not really need even though you're
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: getting twenty eight percent Austin. That just fills in in
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  Speaker 1: some of the spots you don't get Tracy again a
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  Speaker 1: dry run, but I think you nailed you. IP is
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  Speaker 1: just going to play for that. I think Nad's mentioned
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  Speaker 1: earlier too, made a good point is if you want
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  Speaker 1: to play for points, like there's a thirty six and
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  Speaker 1: a half point total, if you want to play for
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  Speaker 1: fifty points, you'll get a little bit different look, probably right,
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  Speaker 1: you'll still get a lot of these guys because of
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  Speaker 1: the pricing, but you may get a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a different lineup build there anything else who you want
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  Speaker 1: ded just.
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  Speaker 2: They're the one thing I was gonn add on. And
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  Speaker 2: it's like, if you just go in here and don't
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  Speaker 2: put anything in, like, you're gonna get a ton of Tracy.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna get Tracy and the Captain you're gonna get
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  Speaker 2: get him uh in the flax. I mean, he's the standout,
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  Speaker 2: you know, best value on the slate, and everyone's gonna
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  Speaker 2: see that. So without making adjustments, you're gonna be loaded
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  Speaker 2: up on Tracy each night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's possible as well. And then people
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  Speaker 1: are a lot of people are looking for Boswell captain tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I certainly think that's a possibility as well. So I
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  Speaker 1: have to look and see not getting much of him
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  Speaker 1: in a dry run. But again it's all how you
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: cap this stuff. You may not want thirty percent pickings
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  Speaker 1: up top. Maybe you do. I'm just saying if you don't,
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  Speaker 1: and you cap that the guys down here that you
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  Speaker 1: see at four two one one and Boswell fits in
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  Speaker 1: there just under one, they're all gonna start to pop
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  Speaker 1: up a little bit as well. Title any thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: it for you?
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  Speaker 3: I what are you doing with the I rarely ever
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  Speaker 3: play kickers, Captain. I'm not gonna do it today. Defense,
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  Speaker 3: I hate to do it as well. Steelers are gonna
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  Speaker 3: get ownership like maybe five percent, six percent?
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  Speaker 4: What are you doing there?
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  Speaker 3: I definitely prefer the skill position players, even the Slatons
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  Speaker 3: of the world Calvin Austen's of the world Van Jefferson, Like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a shot. I know, I prefer the
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  Speaker 3: skill position players that are lower owned. But defense, especially Steelers.
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  Speaker 3: What are you doing, Captain?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm probably just gonna have sprinkles, like I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: be heavier on these four or five captains than it's showing.
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  Speaker 1: It's just tons of It's to a big gamble tonight
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  Speaker 1: on a lot of this stuff really when you look
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  Speaker 1: at it, because the Tracy versus single I know we'll
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  Speaker 1: get there and we go position by position, but Tracy
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: versus singletary, what's the real split? Is it a Nause night?
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Is it a Jalen Ward night? Eric Warren Knight? Sorry,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Jalen Warren's priced up as well realistically, but has more upside,
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  Speaker 1: you think, or a bigger ceiling. Possibly if he gets there,
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  Speaker 1: he can get more explosive. Is a better way to
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  Speaker 1: put a kind of like out who put Gibbs yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: And enough he was? You know things like that. But
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: you have Darnell Washington's, you have THEO Johnson's, you have
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: these Van Jefferson and Calvin Austin the third. So there
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: is other value plays and things to make it work
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: where you can just play the good captains leave money
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: and or just use some of these lower own plays
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: down below to get different. So I don't think I'm
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: gonna do much more beyond the sprinkle. I don't see
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: anything that tells me like, oh I need to go
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: heavy boswell at the captain tonight. Just not not for
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: me right now.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my leen and I make like again, I'm
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: usually between like thirty sixty teams. I probably will X
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: both defenses and kickers captain. I do think Steelers d
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: get steamed. I mean they're good play obviously, Danny Dime stinks.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: It's a low total. They're giants are supposed to score
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: what fifteen points? That's an awful and they're talking about
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: leaving with their left tackling an island with TJ wandall
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: game where the lineman wanted that.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, good luck there.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: I don't expect that to actually be their game plan,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: but you got to wrap it out. Both quarterbacks. Pickens
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: neighbors have his price tag. He's the one I the
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: leased them. I mean, I'm going to play him. Of course,
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: his target chairs insane, but Danny Dimes can hardly get
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: him the football. I think the Steelers will be focusing
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: on him. He's gonna be owned. I think I'd rather
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: take Wandal or Slayton.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Who's there.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: All three of them are almost playing one hundred percent
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: of snap, so I'm not worried about that. Taking the
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: ownership and the price discounts, then you have more flexibility
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: after that.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm gonna keep the captain pool pretty tight.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll come back to you in a second there
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: who Just one quick thing on the quarterbacks I said
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: I would discuss, and that's realistically the setup there is.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Just it's not just that they have a little bit
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: of rushing upside, not that they have a bunch obviously
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: random games. In one offs, they Ken Russ does his
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: old runout and slide, Danny Jones does his run all
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: the way down the field, trip and fall. We've all
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: seen that, but they have opportunity, but it's actually more
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: because of how they spread it out and how hard
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: it can be to get that right on a slate
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: like this, Like we're stacking Danny Jones in the Captain
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: and you're putting two of Tracy Neighbor, Singletary Robinson Slat
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: and Theo Johnson. There's so many guys that he can
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: move it around, so you can actually get away with
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: like a Daniel Jones in the Captain, Neighbors in the Flex,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and just one more guy floating through there if it's
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: a three to three build, or you could even do
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: some two fours and just hope that it is Russ
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: and his crew in the flex. But Danny Jones does
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: the most. He's that raw points guy that Hoop was
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: talking about, and it's you know a little bit to
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Neighbors where he's needed still in the flex, but not
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: enough to the other cheapies that you need to have
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: them all. So same thing on the Steelers side, Russ, Warren,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Harris Pickens, Austin Van Jefferson, but Friarmouth and that's not
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: even naming like the Washington's and Millers and guys of
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the world. So that's why I don't have any problem
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: playing them up top. I think that's when you want
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: these guys, and it's perfect for a showtown slate. So
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I'll definitely have quarterback captains up top.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Hoop. Yeah, I mean, I'm fine with Russ. I think
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be I think I'm gonna pass on Daniel Jones, Like,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I just don't think he's a very good tough spot
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Steelers defense. Just I don't know, man, Daniel Jones is
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: so bad. He's just terrible. And it just reminds me
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: of week well, when we sat around done this show,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: not this show, the Sunday Morning Show, and talked ourselves
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: into Daniel Jones. All three of us didn't have much
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: interest coming in on the show, and then like we
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: talked ourselves into Daniel Jones and I played a lot
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: and I watched him. I'm like, man, that was a
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: pretty poor decision. This guy fucking sucks at football. So
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: probably out on Dan. And I know he did show
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: up on a million Maaker team, like not too long after.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: That, he did on more Millionmaker winners on main slates
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: than Patrick Maholmes over the last eight.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Well, good thing this is a showdown slipe because I
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: don't have much into.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Though he should be able to win a showdown slate
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah maybe, yeah, yeah, you're right, but I don't know.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I don't have much interest there. The wide receivers, Neighbors, Pickens, Russ, Nausey.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: That'll be my main main core most likely than Wandale.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I think Wandell's perfect for like a trailing game script
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: if you think the Giants are playing from from behind
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: in this game, which you know, if you believe in
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the line, it indicates that there's six point underdogs. I
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: think Wandale could could rack up a ton of targets,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: So that'll be like my my core group. I guess
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Daniel Jones will be the big I guess fade for me,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: potentially up top, not not not in Flex. Definitely playing
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: him in Flex, but I don't think I'll play him
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: in Captain.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Do you see this too? Title? You know, Danny Jones
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: just incredible on the road this season, horrible at home.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: He's actually better when he goes on the road. So
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: maybe it's the opposite of the old what was it
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the Ben Roethlisberger narrative. He goes on the road, you
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: gotta watch out. He's up to no good the night before,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: but if he's at home, he's kept in check. What
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: about that with Danny Jones? Any more thoughts there.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I haven't heard the name Ben Roethlisberg in a long time.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: But Dan, I mean, I think the samples so small.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Thist like, he's not good at the road or at home.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: So I'm playing him because none of the like you said,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: I think that you've play it out perfect. None of
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: these guys are really that good in this game. Like
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Fabers is good, Pickens is good. I think Slayton and
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: wond Mill are fine. But I mean they got to
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: get the.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Ball, so yeah, that could be true as well the Giants. Dude,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: that's probably true. All right, let's move on, hoopall I'll
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: go to you. Anything else at quarterback if not that
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: kind of rounded out, you can take us into running
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: back and how you decipher it on this slate because
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: it's a bit tricky on both sides.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously the one that stands out is
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Naji Harris. I mean another guy that I mean and
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: the Steeler guys I've crapped on for years, Russ and Nase.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Now you know, comes full circle obviously on Showdow where
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you have to consider some of these guys. But Nase's
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: clearly in the best spot, coming off a solid performance,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: got the touchdown late and what was needed. I think
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: they're on primetime last week ninety two hundred, Like Price
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: isn't really a factor on the slate, just because everything's
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: gonna look like you don't want to click it because
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: of the price, but you're gonna have to click somewhere.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: So definitely interested in him at ninety two. Jalen Moarren
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: not as in I mean I like Jalen Moren when
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: they're playing from behind, not playing with the lead. And
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: if you think the Steelers are playing with the lead here,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: you should play a lot of Nause. If you think
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: they're playing from behind, you should probably play some some
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Jalen Warren, But I definitely prefer Nause Overworn and Warren
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: to me, I just don't necessarily love in this game.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: We always talked about Tyrone Tracy a little bit. Forty
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: four hundred. I'd say one of the biggest miss Price
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: or is the biggest miss price on the slipe, but
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: that's coming with big time ownership, and there's there's a
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: low floor on the Giants today. The Steelers are kind
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: of rolling a little bit here Monday night football. The
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Giants look like shit, like there's there's an outcome where
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: they just get their ass kicked and all these guys
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: kind of bust. But at forty four hundred, definitely got
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: to consider Devin Singletary is an easy fade. At eighty four,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I'll definitely will not be clicking that name. And then
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: none of these other dudes are in place, So it's
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Nase Harris like by far for me, Tracy from Harris
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: to Tracy Gap, from Tracy to Warren Gap, and then
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not playing anyone else. In terms of the running.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Backs title, how do you got it? That's a good
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: breakdown for Hoop there, but I just think similar. So
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: what what's your thoughts at running back?
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Tracy? For sure number one?
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, so our ownership right now is and probably
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: industry ownership is too light.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: What do you think it gets to in.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: The flex fifty.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: To fifty range? I think, and I mean obviously like
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: the higher stake stuff he's going to be the flagship. Yeah,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: yeah in that one. Yeah, maybe it is like around
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: four What do we have it at twenty nine? But
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: it's coming off. Yeah, it's gonna be Uh.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I think it's too low across the industry right for
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: sure to what to what steam?
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like that's the question the ownership game.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: If he's forty five percent, I would prefer nause and
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: more and more because I mean forty fifty percent a
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: lot for running back.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: That's yeah, he's the start.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Low floor play man, it's still a low floor play.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're implied for very little points.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Singletary came back after injury, so that made sense for
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Tracy to get it. I still do expect Tracy to
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: be the starting running back. I think he looks better
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: at the eye test. He's younger. They drafted him like
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Singletary is getting older. He's a vet. It all makes sense,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: but he still said do something.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: If it was like thirty five percent, maybe even forty,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna play Tracy. I will say, I like warn
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: a little more than nausey because of that twelve percent
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: ownership gap we have on a slate that it's a
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: little hard for me to get difference. I'm gonna play Nause,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: you onna play Warren. You can play both together this game.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: If not many points are scored, both of them fall
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: in the box. Ones that could be enough for both
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: of them are in the winner. People don't like, especially handbuilding.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Playing those two together that's something that I definitely will
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: be doing. I know pricing is up there, but if
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Daniel Jones gets you ten, why can't those guys get
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: you eleven or twelve, etc. If both of them are
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: running touchdowns, Russ isn't throwing them, Pickens isn't catching them.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Stuff like that.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Singletary, Yeah, I would need a lot of teams to
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: probably get to Singletary.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: It makes sense. It's all the game theory leverage.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: But man, at that price take eighty two hundred or
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: eighty four hundred, good luck there. So yeah, it's really
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: the tracy. You didn't say anything about ownership Tamba, but
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: A what do you think he comes in in flex?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: And then what would be too high for you where
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: you want.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: To be under?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I just take what I get, Like, I don't think
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: it's gonna matter too much, but I think he gets
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: closer to forty for sure. Like it's we we just
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: did a first run here and we've got him almost
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: at thirty. It's just he's too cheap. People are gonna
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: believe in the price to set up the spot all
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: that stuff. They're still gonna play no matter what. So
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: it's gonna get even higher.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: If you just run stuff and don't change anything, you're
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: gonna get probably fifteen to twenty percent in the Captain,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and then you're gonna get another sixty uh in the fuck.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: So you're you're talking potentially eighty percent of your lineups
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: with these guys.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: So literally just did the dry run, you got seventeen
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: percent and sixty seven so we got eighty four percent. Yeah,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: that's he's going to go.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the reason why he's going to be
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: much higher on than we're showing or everyone in the
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: industry is around that thirty to thirty five percent number.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: It's going to be much much bigger than that, just
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: because when people blindly run teams, which a lot of
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: people do, you're just naturally getting a massive chunk of
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: this guy. Massive. Yeah.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: So I think that is the one side of it,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and then the other thing too, is just looking at
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the overall grand scheme of things. It's like I was
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: looking ahead. So Steelers have a bye week coming up,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I think, so there's gonna lay it all out there.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: They get a whole two weeks rest after this, and
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: then the Giants have to play the Commanders on a
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: short week a division game coming up, So title, do
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you look at anything at all like that or just
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: think about I guess the only reason I'm bringing it up.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: It's not narratives or anything. We've seen this happen plenty
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: of times and had good, good thoughts behind it. But
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: running back usage, like do you think the Giants give
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: a shit because they're already the worst anyway in their divisions?
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Or just play Tracy play whatever? Or do they look
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: at it like, well we can just use singletary more
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: this week and hold Tracy up some or do you
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: think there's any thought process around that with the game
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: they have upcoming anything at all?
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really interesting.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know if like half of these coaches are
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: so dumb that I think, like even if I thought
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: something good that they would probably go the other way.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Table I don't think is a complete donkey.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna answer the question because I really
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: don't know, and it would just it wouldn't mean much.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I have zero thought on the slate. I think it's
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: an interesting thing to look at, though, because I definitely
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: think it matters in a lot of cases. We've seen
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: look ahead spots, sleepy spots, whatever people want to call them.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, someone said, yeah, Sean Dable's job
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: on the line probably tries to scheme something up. So
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: to me, just run the best options he's got out
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: there and get the job done. It doesn't really matter
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: as much. They're worse in the division anyway, so I
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be fine. You'll have to find other
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: ways to get unique hoop kick it back to you,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: anything else at running back if not, take us into
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: these wide receivers. Obviously a lot of talk around Pickens neighbors,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: but you've already mentioned Wandale Robinson. The chat was talking
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: earlier about Steelers for years now just getting crushed in
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the slot. So maybe that's the thing too. So what's
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: your thoughts at wide receiver?
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Pickens Neighbors, you know, probably the two
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: highest upside plays on the slate, I'd say, I mean
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Pickens has looked pretty good I mean last year was
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: not great for him. This year looks good. Obviously, last
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: week looked good with Russ, So I think he's clearly
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: a strong option. Captain Flex, same with Neighbors. You know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Captain Flex, totally fine option. But again, the one that
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: continues to stand out for me is one Dale Robinson
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: because I think he can get there in so many
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: different ways. Seventy eight hundred. We talked about the vulnerability
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: with the slot coverage. He'll benefit from that, He'll benefit
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: from if the Giants are playing from behind, which again
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: that's kind of what the line indicates that he stands
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: out to me as a very solid option. You know,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Slayton Kelvin Austen is another guy. He's he's gonna be
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: on the slate.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Probably a mini a mini Tyrone Taylor in terms of
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: the ownership in the steam just because if you run it,
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: and we ran it and it was a pretty high number,
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: I think we ended up getting like what thirty percent
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: on that dry run.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: He's a guy that's just going to show up a lot.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Because of the price tag three K. There's not a
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: ton of super cheap options on the slate. There's not
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: like a you know, two hundred dollars play that that
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: stands out with a good projection. He's getting a solid
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: projection at at three k flat in terms of the
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: price tag. So he's a He's a guy that if
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: you just run teams, you're gonna get it. You're gonna
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: get a lot of him plan option though for sure,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: and then Van Jefferson as well. Four k. I think
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: he's all right. And then if you really want to
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: take a flyer on a guy, you know, Hiatt at
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: one thousand dollars like I think. I think last game
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: they threw a bomb to him. Obviously it didn't complete
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: because there's no bombs to Hiet that ends up in
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: a completion. I mean, that's kind of been the story
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: of this guy's career, where he gets these bombs and
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: they're never converted ever, I don't think. But at one
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: thousand and if they're gonna throw it deep to him,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: like I think you can include him in your playerpool,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: should not get much ownership at all, A one place
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: sort of guy, like, will you ever convert one of
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: these bombs? It hasn't happened yet, I don't think, But
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: maybe tonight's the night. Who knows, But it's pretty pretty
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: clean wide receiver position. Like you know the guys. It's
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Pickin's neighbors, Robinson, Slayton, Austin, Van Jefferson.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Title. I'm gonna ask you his question. I'm just counting
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: them up. Okay, this is the guy here, says Wandale,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: skilled receiver, huge ceiling guy, can produce it will two seasons,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: two years, sample size. How many times do you think
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: he's got twenty Fantasy points?
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: He was injured to begin last year. Diames can never
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: get them zero.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: He answer. The answer is zero. Literally no ceiling at all.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: It's it's a showdown slate and his price dictates ability
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: to put him up top. Not going to the captain conversation,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: because I think it actually works on this slate. But
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: when someone's saying he's a huge ceiling guy, he's not
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: like there's just no ceiling. But it's a one game slate.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: So if he gets you his eight catches for eighty
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and happens to get in the box, that could be enough.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: And so if you're going with them, I mean in
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the flex is where I like him a lot more
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: than up top. That's how I would use him. But
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: just to note it and it can bite me. But
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's kind of the setup. It just
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: got to know what you've got here, neighbors, is.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: You need you need one of these low scoring type games.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: You need like a twenty twenty three to seven type
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: game where eighteen fantasy points and and his little discount
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: from those top guys, like it's a little bit of
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: a discount you need. That's where a game which is
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: very viable. We have Steelers favored by six and what
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: thirty six point point total, so that would be the
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: argument for But again this is this could be a
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: gross one. It's a raw point sort of.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: That's just a number. Yeah, like Kenny saying here and
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: my buddy and one of the sharpest dudes out there
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: playing the highest stake since you're you're pinning exactly what
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: who just said. If it's a thirty six total, Wondale's amazing.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: If it's a if there's forty or fifty and you're
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: building for something different on this slate though, Wondale's not
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: your ceiling guy, and it's you know, one play, two
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: plays to a couple different dudes and he's done, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you may just need him in the flex so I
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: love him in the flex That's where I was going
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: with when I started it off. But mentioning the ceiling
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: of it, it's really you're really hoping for that that
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: shorter game just.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: To elaborate on the highest suck because I wanted to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: make sure I wasn't a donkey, and then like this
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: guy actually converted one of the bombs at some point,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: you know, no, not the case. He has one, two, three, seven,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: eight eight targets this year. How many catches you guys
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: think he has? Just catch it?
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Probably probably one because I saw it one of his
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: go ros last week and Dines literally dropped back, closed
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: his eyes, double coverage and chucked it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Damn you're out of bounds. So how are catchables when
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: I'm one?
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: He's got one catch this year, one catch at eight
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: eight targets, and it's probably pretty similar last year too,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: and he's actually getting playing time. It is funny, though
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: you can think at some point it's like the uh
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the nvs. Valdez scanling thing, like it's so many bombs
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: his way and like he's finally out of the league.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Though right I think it's not someone just picked I
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: thought something if someone picked his ass up because he
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: got caught and yeah, someone in the chat hopefully they
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: know on that because that that is like one of
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: the biggest mysteries Saints. He's with the Saints.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, gets weird, just saying it's it's no nobody, right,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: this is what people are looking at, Like what eleven
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: sixty eight can just get crushed in two minutes by
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Darius Slayton on the rights on the right slate, right,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Like eleven sixty eight is solid, but you know three
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: eighty and a touch or three one hundred one in
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: a touchdown or something like that. That's the other thing.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: So Darius Slayton, prime example, basically in the same situation,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: has five games of over eighteen, three of them over
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: twenty with a couple around thirty. That's again, break the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: break the Slaton we talked about, and he literally did
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: it earlier this season. Again, different injuries are in place,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: but if there's stuff on neighbors and it's not just
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the slot stuff, that's all I'm saying. I love Robinson
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: in the in the slot, that I love them in
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the flex tonight. I just I'm saying, you got to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: know what you're playing for and if you think the
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: game goes that way. I just think it's funny everyone
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: oughto assumes the total is the game. It's like, never
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that way. You know, the whole season, we see tons
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: of games. You're like, well, I didn't expect the Tennessee.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Remember yesterday Tennessee Detroit, like Mason Rudolph comes out balling
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: early on, and all of a sudden, the Detroit team
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: is putting up their team total in one half, and
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: then you got fifty something points just from that side.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: So good, you got a squaw. Glad you brought that up.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm beating the Titans. Yeah, I mean that's
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: definitely a nice.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Here get out here six and one dominating the league,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: like yes, so.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: No one's saying that. I think they're incredible. And say
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: you use the Titans win as like a way to probable.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, that was.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: That was just that was just strengthening.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: The point man the pack this week with the beat
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: up love.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, where is that in Green Bay? I was
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: curious thinking about that this morning, and I never Kenny.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: That's I always own my own stuff. I'm I'm but
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the Ravens played out in your competition. I told you
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: that and everyone in there playing that setup.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: That was that was a call on your party?
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Did say every time?
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: When the remember last year against the forty nine ers
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: when I called them the win too when the in
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: season super Bowl preview, bet the house on them because
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: it's not the real super Bowl. So the Ravens will
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: win when it's old. There's no way they lose this
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: game against Jameis Winston. Yet they do. Actually they lose
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: it quite easily and they didn't look good at all.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: But that's crazy. It's easy.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: It's easy as a Ravens fan though, because you have
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Mark Jackson as your quarterback. You know how the season
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: is gonna end.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, I mean imagine going Watson to start the year
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: and then d t r as the second guy with
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Jamis inactive, and then you, like like Flack Owen Richards
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: and stuff, you throw these guys out there like these
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: guys don't want to win. I get money in it,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: run like contract, you got it. It's clear as day
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: his contract is awful and he stinks. Do you want
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: to win or do you just want to sell the team.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I mean the leadership and everything from Jamis you could
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: tell the team was playing behind like that, was a
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: way better football team.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: It makes zero sense.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: There's our guy. Could be Travis with the crane. See
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the crazy from earlier we were talking about the man
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: good man.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: The Bills do look solid as well. Man, that's.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Allan's head. You know, he made one mistake. Now it
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: could start to before that he had no interception, So
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: maybe that'll be the straw that broke the camera.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes back to the same talking point, like
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: some of these coaches, some of these guys in the
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: front office just have to be the biggest morons. It's
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: got to be all I'm networking, right, it has to
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: be all networking. Why some of these guys get jobs,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Like why they continue to get second, third, fourth, fifth chances?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: It's just networking, right.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: It has to be bears, dude, fullback dive on fourth
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: down instead of running back and what are you doing?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Like why don't like that?
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Guys get away with that. Some of these spots men
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: are insane.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I know they all It's like they all want to
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: be the smartest guy in the room and they think,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: like if that play works, everyone's gonna be like, oh
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: my gosh, there's such a heroic call because handing it
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: off to your running back or your fall back or
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: your second running back isn't as sexy as giving it
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: to some dude that's never taken a handoff before. It
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: was literally the dumbest shit I've ever seen in my life.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Couldn't, couldn't do the I hope Jamis doesn't stay in
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: the Winter Circle too long because these interviews are just
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: a bit much too like wait, my movie, Like he
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: can't speak the proper like he has to say just
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the one liners and ship like, come on, too cheesy.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's I'm a big Jason Tatum fan.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: He's just as cheesy, but at least he's trying to
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: say real words. This man is just saying quotes and
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: shit like that. Faith he just like interface, it's just whatever.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: It's a it's the way she goes. He's a great
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: hype man though. If he ever watches like a team
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: stuff that he does with him trying to pull like
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the Ray Lewis stuff, he is very good at that.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: That's where I'll give him the credit. Let's move on.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Let's let's do a little more conversation here titled do
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: you want to talk further on these wide receivers how
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: you see it, and then if not, you can take
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: us into tight end after as well.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I do think it's clear. I would be cautious with Hyatt.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: He only got three snaps last week, and again all
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: of them are pretty much go routes. But good luck
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Daniel Dimes are connecting on a go round.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Not a recommended play by by any means. Just like
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: if you're looking for somebody else to mix in and
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: he's going to be, it'll be like unowned again, you
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: know what the result is going to be at the
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: end of the night, Like the result is going to
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: be a zero next to his name with a freaking
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: snowflake like like always, like that's not sure, that's how
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: it always is.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Three snaps was just because when neighbors came back like
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: it was neighbors are ninety three percent Slaton one hundred
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: percent of snaps one del eighty four like they were
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: almost nobody else.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: So I think it's clear as day those three. And
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: I like Wandale.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I mean that makes sense with his upside is a
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: dot is like three yards four yards? Why as a
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: PPR monster on DraftKings. But the reason I like Londale,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: especially a lot in the flex is it's so much
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: easier to lead money with him if he's somehow it'd
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: scored Neighbors or pickings or either quarterback or nause. You
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: have an ownership discount and can leave a bunch of salary.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: And it's a low scoring game, like any of these
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: dudes can bust. We saw Kamara what he score four
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: points in the in the smash spot on Showdown that
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: he was mega owned, like anyone can bust, especially these guys.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: So going wandale allows you to save money off of
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: any of those top guys, which is what I.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Like a lot. Darius Slayton, dude's been a beast.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Obviously, Neighbors coming back hurts him, but he played one
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: hundred percent of snaps last week. Me up for a
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: guy at five eight that's gonna play one hundred percent
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: of snaps and the Steelers defense will be more popular
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: four hundred less right there. So I think that's a pivot. Yeah,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna play neighbors again. I prefer Pickens. If I
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: had to pick a spend up, it's like it's apples
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: and apples. Though, Like both of these dudes are clear
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: wide receiver ones, big time target share, big time upside
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Steelers side. I love Pickens, the Calvin Austin and Man
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Jefferson stuff like I'm gonna play it, but I'm most
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: definitely not excited.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: I don't think Russell Wilson's great.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: I think this team wants to run the football, play
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: good defense, and when they do throw it, and more
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: times than not goes to Pickings. So to showdown slate,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: one grab, two grabs can change everything.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: I definitely don't love them. That love them, though.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say a couple things real quick
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: just to all transition it to tight end. Is because
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Darnell Washington. I know we're gonna talk about Pat Fryarmoth.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: It's still National tight Ends week. You got Theo Johnson
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: and Pat Fryer Mooth being the starters. But Darnell Washington
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: almost got me to the house last Steeler slate. And
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: he's right there at twenty eight hundred, which the reason
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I like him. To Hoop's point earlier, a lot of
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: people are gonna have three thousand dollars Calvin Austin the
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: third in their lineup two hundred bucks less. Washington's right there,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: and on this type of slate again playing for the
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: other setup and all of that. It'll do twofold for me.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I'm looking back to like what Kenny pulled up, what
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Hoop was talking about. Even if we get the thirty
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: six point total legit and it lands around that range,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I can have like a Neighbors or a Pickens in
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the captain with that guy in the lineup as cause
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: then it's probably a lower scoring game and maybe just
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: two catches in a touchdown is enough at twenty eight hundred,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: or maybe it's enough to beat the three K wide
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: receiver that everybody landed on instead, so I can get
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: a double. I don't have one day up top for that.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I can have a Neighbors or a Pickens or a quarterback,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: and I can have him down there instead of Calvin Austin,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: and even if it's a lower scoring game, I can
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: still find a way for it to get there. This
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: does feel like a slate, and maybe hoopball kick at
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: you at tight end first, because you've talked about this plenty.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: This does feel more like a slate where one of
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: these you already mentioned Hyatt as well, by the way,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: where these one to three K type guys could be
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: a part of it, right, just so you could fit
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: in the other four four or five of the other
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: main dudes that we've already talked about.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Firemouth at sixty two. I think definitely solid,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: fine option, especially in the like Russell Wilson captain teams.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I think you know that that's the way the best
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: to play him this Theo Johnson at at twenty four hundred,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: good with him, you know, trailing game script talked about
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: the Darnell Washington at twenty eight Fine with him, and
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: he's not going to come with like any ownership at all.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: What was it? One big player? I feel like he
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: had a couple of plays last week. Yeah, four for four,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: So four targets, four receptions twenty eight hundred. Are they
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: going to use multiple tight ends with Russ? Maybe that's
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: by design, like you know, maybe that's what they want
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: to do. So I think he's definitely a really solid
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: option at so looking like low ownership, what do we
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: what are we showing the ownership at Do you have
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: that number right there?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's sub ten right now. Yeah, Austin's obviously
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: going to be higher than what we have and that
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: we saw him Stanning in thirty percent the lineup.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so in on him and then you know, prew
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: it at at four hundred potentially, you know, he's the
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: one guy that's getting some sort of a projection all
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: the way down there. I don't think you have to
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: go there, but he was in the he was on
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: the field a little bit last week four hundred. Again,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: if you're playing Russ captain teams, don't hate that. But
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: really the main focus will be firemouth THEO Johnson and
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: then I do like that Darnell Washington call at I'd
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: assume five to eight percent ownership, probably somewhere in that range.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agreed. Title, I'll go to you on tight end.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: What's your thoughts?
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not too much more to Yeah, prew it for
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: your whop. He has on the field thirty snaps last
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: week Again he didn't really.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: They obviously want to run multiple tight ends a lot.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: It's clearly by design.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: You know, Connor Hayward got ten snaps, Washington played fifty three,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: was seventy one. Like, yeah, it's not eleven personnel team.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: They want to run the ball, jam the football, not
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: have Russ drop back as much as he wants, and
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: that benefits the sight ends right here, so totally good
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: with all of them. I like the Darnell play at
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: low ownership, the pivot off of Calvin Hawlson, like you said,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: was a little expensive at sixty two.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know THEO. Johnson Hoop always loves to you.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: I swear he's him and Dalton Schultz, he says on
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: the mainslight every time he did get in.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: The box last week.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: I thought of you, so I'll play some what the
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: price sakes big at sixty two.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: I don't love it personally, Tambo, do you I also
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: throw to you. Do you think these guys get steam?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Just really fried with I don't think THEO were that
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: from of what happened yesterday and people thinking tight End
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Day is gonna do it again.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: He's the clear guy that Jibby maybe not enough. Last
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: night we were talking about Kittle and Ferguson. We're talking
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: about two really good saying. The first time that we
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: could look at how would the steam be affected by
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: what happened Sunday was last night Sunday Night football actually
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: really good and they got a little steam. But they're
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: also legit dudes here not seeing it so much I
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: will say I didn't talk about this off the top,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: but move would be another guy I would certainly plug
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: into the captain. Lets me fill up the mill, avoid
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: some of those low end plays, and if it is
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a lower scoring game, he can definitely have that type
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: of line. I just looked up his numbers. He said eighteen,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: about as many times as won Dale Robinson has, and
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: he's way cheaper. And just to say it again, he's
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: also huge leverage because I think Pickens is gonna get
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: quite popular. Our our dry run had Pickens going in
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: the top almost thirty percent. I don't think he gets
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: anywhere near that. My point is, though, of we're if
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: it's telling us to take that much, other people are
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: gonna be comfortable taking twenty percent Pickens. So I think
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: that's kind of the point where friar Mooths would also
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: be some leverage to that. And now you can kind
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: of get that just back and forth game of Russ
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: hitting his tight end, doing a little bit with his
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: legs on the ground. You could run a two to
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: four like that with him up top, Russ and the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: flex and four giants, you could run a three, three, four,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: two five one whatever you want to run. I just
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: think it's going to be naturally unique tonight, and I
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: only really see him. I see him sub five percent
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: up top in the Captain, So it'd be a way
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: to change it up. And especially if you think it's
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: a lower scoring slate, it'd be a way to go
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense the Captain.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I almost might even like it more at captain than Flex.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna play some about but your point of it's
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: a dead range two at captain. Like if people are
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: going they don't love Slaton down there, Steelers d might
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: even be just as highly owning the Captain. I much
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: prefer Frarmouth and the Upside. Then the war people won't
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: go warn much but wan Dale stuff like that. It
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: is a dead range really at captain. I think a
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: lot of these high price nine point two k nause
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: and above is gonna where a lot of people go.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I'll stay with you on ds and kickers only because
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I'll give my point first and a kick like what
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: you just said is perfect And also another thing I hate.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: One thing I hate about defense captains. I've been all
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: for the two kickers in flex. I've been all four
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: kickers at captain. Quarterbacks break down. I think I'm there
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: more today, even with their ownership probably being up like Boswell,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I'd rather that and have Russ breakdown or the Giants
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: d show up a little bit or something and kind
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: of close them down in those spots. But the defense captain,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I can't remember very often when we get a defense
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: captain winner, and it's pretty unique. That's probably another reason
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: why I don't get it, because it's always going to
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: be like a five to one Steelers crush them, So
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: it's you can get Steelers if once I have them,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I could get Wilson, my running back of choice, Pickens,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: and I just got to pick one dude on the
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: other side, Like, if you're going there, I would probably
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: try and leave what is it ten man, I'd leave
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: up to nine thousand on the table, probably not because
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Hyatt versus Neighbors is risky, but at least from Slayton
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: to Neighbors. If I was going a Steelers five to
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: one with a Steelers captain. The way I figure out
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: from process how much money I can leave on the
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: table is what would I be comfortable with beating the
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: other guy? And it's probably Slayton beating Neighbors, So if
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: everyone could fit neighbors and if not, they're going Robinson.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I'll drop down to be good with Slaton. I know,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: you know, you could go as risky as you want,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and I don't think it's gonna be get chopped that
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: much less. But obviously you'll be chopped less than if
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: you just land on ten grand and put in neighbors.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: So title, I'll stay with you. But long Way is
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: saying it's tough to get to the defense up top anymore.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: It just never seems to pen out, and if it does,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: it's not really a good split.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like your example, the Slayton stuff.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Or you go Singletary and like you know, it'll be
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: really different and you jam in a sub five percent
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: guy with the Steelers captain. Maybe at Darnel Washington. You
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: just can't go Steelers d leave least seven hundred and
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: think you're good. So probably talk to me out of
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: I'll probably excel Steelers captain to or at least very minimal.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: As far as the flex though, I have interested in
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: all of them. And that's because, like, if this game's
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: low scoring, why we've seen nause Bus, We've seen quarterbacks
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: bus wan Dale cannot get there, Jalen Warren, et cetera.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Why can't they both these offenses still in the red
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: zone eleven from the kicker, defensive sacks, fumbles, all of that,
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: and they can outscore guys three thousand ahead of them,
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: two thousand ahead of them. Steelers D will by far
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: be the most popular of this range, but they're at home.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Daniel Jones stinks it's a fifteen total. I'm gonna eat
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: some of that chalk. I like the Kickers. They'll be
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: less owned, so I do prefer them if I have
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: to pick. And really, people aren't playing the Giants, and
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: they're significantly cheaper at two thousand from the Steelers. I
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: just don't think Russ is very good personally, So yeah,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be playing all four of them pretty heavily, I.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: Think in the flex.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good call. I like that breakdown.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: And also, you know, this is like Tim saying, this
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: is also just personal preference. I don't disagree with you.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I think that's why it could be a little bit
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: more popular than we usually see, and it's not too
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: popular to not play it. I'm just saying it's not
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: a if the Steelers D wins tonight and it's a
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: fifty way chop. I'm never mad about that. I'm not like,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: oh I knew it, I should have got to that.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I'm actually I own that and I'm good with it.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Last night solo ship or with Grinda, I didn't have
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Grinda in all my lineups, so over a one hundred
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: plus lineup, so that happens, I just move on. I'm
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: comfortable with it. I was never playing that, so I
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: just move on to the next slate. So it's more
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: of what you're comfortable with how you play. But when
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: you have something that you know what you're gonna be
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: comfortable with, you have your own process, You've built it
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: your way, and you're happy with it. That allows you
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: to not get mad when something like that happens. It
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: keeps your mindset fresh in the game, be able to
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: move on to the next slate. And that's just how
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I feel about it. So that's me hoop. Any thoughts
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: from you at the kickers and the defenses here?
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good, good little breakdown there in terms of the defense.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: I anticipation in probably right around the field on Giants defense,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: maybe a little under on the Steelers because I think
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: they probably get steamed here. I mean, people are gonna
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: look at this thirty six total, favored by basically a touchdown.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: People are gonna love that I'm not playing in the
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Captain Like I'm just I'm just not doing that, and
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of people will I mean not a lot,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: but I mean they're gonna captain Steelers defense is going
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: to be a higher on than we've seen a Captain
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: defense in a while. So I'll be off of that,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: fine with them in the Flex, Fine with the Giants
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: and the Flex. I really like Boswell. That should come
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: to nobody's surprise. But it seems like in these primetime games. Again,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: no numbers on this. This is just me thinking back
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: in my head, like it just seems like anytime the
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Steelers are on primetime, Boswell finds a way into the
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: winning lineup. It just really does. So I want to
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: prioritize Boswell for sure. Tonight I'll have some Greg Joseph
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: not gonna like force it in. Maybe a little under
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: the field on Greg Joseph. But out of all these again,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: it probably comes to nobody's surprise that Boswall is my
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: favorite out of the defenses and the kickers. But it
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: does really seem like he's been on the winning lineups
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: whenever they're on prime time. Maybe someone in the check
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: can dig that up. You check his game log solid man,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: he's averaging twelve and a half a Fantasy points per game,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: had a twenty six spot, has an eighteen spot, I believe. Yeah,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: I checked it out. You know that.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty solid man. So I know you check
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: the game logs for the Kickers, So I thought I
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: would bring that up. I wish my guy NYG fan
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: was in the chat. Dwayne. He's the man. He's always around,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: super sharp dude, underrated, not as many people probably know
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: who he is, but he does a little bit of content.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: He's in way up the rankings, has good success across
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: all sports. He's a Giants fan. He told me this
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: before that day, ball will bench a guy. It was actually,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: what's that dude's name titled Tyrod. He's like one game
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: he was playing, he's like, play the backup. He's like,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: he's going to get bench tonight, and he called it.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: It was like the same thing. He just he's seen
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: it happening and that's kind of the setup.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Is.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: But one thing I'll say is if you're gonna play
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: lock if you have one lineup and you're gambling, or
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: if you have one hundred and fifty and you want
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: to throw something in. I actually don't hate it, and
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I never ever recommend this, only because I have a
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: thought around it. If one that's stuck in my mind
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: from Dwayne, two Dave All like Sean says, seems to
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: hate this guy, like you could definitely see him get
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: in there, and three it's really I would just play
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: him in the flex if you're playing them, because they're
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: probably getting crushed and already down and somebody's already done
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: damage and they're going to continue to probably do damage.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: But it would be a spot where you could just
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: plug him in the flex if you land there. I'm
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: not wanting to be the guy that advocates it because
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll even get there. But if
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: ever there was a slate to do it, it could
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: be the night under.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: No I tweeted earlier from a rapport from Jordan Brandan
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: or whatever does Yeah, it says Daniel Jones not expected
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: to be on short leash Monday. These coaches lie all
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: the time, But does that singular tweet change your stance
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: at all of what you just said.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Leans more into it. If it wasn't if it wasn't
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: in in check, or it didn't have to be talked about.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: Then it was a reporter probably asked and then he
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: said who.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he came out and said that,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: that would be different than a reporter asking and then him.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: But if they're down thirty nothing, reporter.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: A lot of shit? Man, we know this. Oh what
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: was it? We just had it? Who was the guy?
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Pooka nakua. There's not even this guy is going to
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: be he's limited as ship this he barely got a
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: practice and we'll see what happens. Yeah, break the slate, Hawkins.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Remember when Remember when ship a Nation had him projected
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: six points higher than everyone else in the industry.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Remember that. I love that. Yeah, but yeah, we've seen
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Hawkinson's only gonna play the meaningful snaps. Okay, ten in
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: the first half. Ten catches in the first half was meaningful.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: A lot of meaningful snaps out there. So and this
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: is not a bout. I mean, that's what I'm saying.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: We were not. We never just throw a play out there.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: It's not a hot take, it's it's it technically could
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: come across that way, but I threw pure theory behind it.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying to put him in like guy didn'ta
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: that time in the captain slot and ended up getting
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: all the way there to ship the solo Millie. I'm
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: saying the fact would be is if Locke gets in,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: obviously has to do something. But it's the point of
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I would just use him in the flex. If you
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: were doing it, people are asking should they do it?
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: If you're doing it, I would put them in the
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: flex because I think enough has already happened to say
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: enough is enough. Let's just stop right now. We got
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: another game coming up next week. Let's get this guy
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: in and see what happens. That would be the take
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: and if it's a low scoring game or if it's
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: a Steeler smash or something like that, that might be
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the only points coming from that side. He would be
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: getting the ball in his hands every single time. So look,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I hate bringing it up because I never want to
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: be the advocate for it, but the chat brought it up,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: it did strike a memory for me, so I thought
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I would bring that up. But anything else, who if not,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: you can go right to the setup here when it
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: comes to FanDuel, I.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Think, yeah, so I did actually just pull up FanDuel
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: and it's crazy on a slate where DraftKings kind of
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: punts off the prices and makes everyone super cheap. Fan
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: kind of with the opposite, i'd say, like they have
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: guys like priced up. I don't, there's like no logic
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: to this shit, I swear, But like Neighbors sixteen to five,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: that's big on a non PPR site, But then Pickens
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: is like twelve five, so you get a huge discoun there.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Pickens is gonna be way more popular than Neighbors. Russell
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Wilson fifteen to five. You know it's up there, but
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: probably where it should should be. Daniel Jones fourteen, Naji
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Harris thirteen to five. So don't to me, the only
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: real price break in that top tier of guys is
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: probably Pickens at at twelve five. One Dale Robinson is
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: ten K. I think he's a horrible play on FanDuel.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I like him on DK, but ten K, like, I
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: just don't. I mean it's a huge difference. I mean
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: it really is.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Give who I say, vandaal socks butan w hoop crushes
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: one great on draftings been horrible on fandally.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, on DK.
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: But it's true though, like you're playing in on DK
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: to that whatever that stat line was, elevenceptions for seventy yards,
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: that's eighteen fantasy points on DK, you take that over
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: to FanDuel, it's.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Like what eleven or something. I mean, it's a massive,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: massive difference. So Boswall at eighty five stands out as
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: like a really really solid option to me. The Giants
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: running backs are not getting a break. Tracy eleven to
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: five and then Singletary ten to five. So singletary cheaper
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel versus DraftKings. So if you're playing on both sites,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: maybe you get some Singletary on FanDuel Friarmouth at eight K,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: great price tag, and then a bunch of the cheapies
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: that we talked about. Nothing really too big of a
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: difference over there, but I'd say pricing is much more
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: difficult on FanDuel versus DK. And as always, the quarterbacks
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: definitely have an advantage over here where I might not
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: play Daniel Jones on DK and the captain, I would
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: definitely include it in my MVP pool on a FanDuel.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Ye, you guys want to go look title and who
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: both for some some winners. We got to pick two,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: one for the ticket and one for the membership with
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: the double D comments but just to look interesting tonight
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: on the dry run on FanDuel getting a bunch more
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: pickings in the MVP than we are the quarterbacks, And
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: obviously we knew Daniel Jones would be down. But part
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: of that, you know, process of bringing one down, it
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: pops somebody else up. It's gonna be pickings in this case,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: and it's still giving us a little more of both
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks next up. But Neighbors is down the board a
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: little bit tracy maybe, like you said, just because of
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: the pricing, not even showing up, yeah, in the dry run,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: which is to me because that's just a natural way
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: to get different, Like if the Giants do get there,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I know it's a not a full point PPR, but still, uh,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: you know, if you got the Giants, our guy Takedown
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: earlier said hot take. You know, someone called it a
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: hot take, but giants win. Maybe if you've got that,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate something like that. That would be a
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: way to get different.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: One thay, the Giants have shown up in weird spots
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: and gotten wins over the course of the last I
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: guess a couple of years where they beat they beat
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: the hell out of Seattle. I think earlier in the year,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Like they can pop up and I wouldn't be surprised.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: You.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I think it's likely. Obviously not, but I think it
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: could happen.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Someone's got the stat out there, I'm sure, but I
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: think it's like the Steelers also haven't lost a Is
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: it a Monday night football game or a Frida nineteen?
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: I saw our guy.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: It's a healing Okay.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: You know, I love my sample size, and this is
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: a legit sample.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: You can't fuck with sixty years of information, eighty years.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Some years they don't even have but you know what
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, or they have one or something. But either way,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: the point being, it is a pretty crazy sample. But
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: just to note that, Yeah, the pricing is a little
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: bit different, so certainly something to consider there. Title. Did
• 56:41
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• 56:44
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• 56:47
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• 56:53
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• 57:00
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• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah title, what do you got there? Man, Let's let's
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  Speaker 1: The best ever was they like torched it before it
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• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I swear he actually meant it.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Like where is the statue? Okay, stadium, there's no fucking way.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, talk about the title.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: We need to find I don't know, I don't know
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: the answer, I hope it's not.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know where they did it, like someone I
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: saw on Twitter, like outside of the stadium.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: If if that's outside the I gotta take that thing down.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: It looks like a burned face. Man, it looks like
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: years old.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Like someone said he got a statue of antwine walker
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: in his name.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: If that's outside of the stadium. But they need to
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: look at his face. His face looks like he's his
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: body's on fire. He's like, oh my gosh, someone come
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: and save me, like I'm burning to death.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: But this is a live photo with the statue behind
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: him and his face says it all of like what's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: going on? Like this a thing? I think it's outside
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: the stadium?
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: He said, that is truly outside of the stadium. That
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: is like a massive failure.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Like who looked at that and was like yeah, let's go,
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: let's go with that and unreveal it to all that.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: But it's like crazy though, because you see all these
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: statues come up and it looks like identical to the person,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: like there would never be a question, so why don't
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: you just like if they went through the standard statue
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: producing company, like you get something good, like what the
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: is this.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: That was a great comment. Man, you had me right away.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: That's right outside I don't know if this is.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: That's where it's at, right outside.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: The front, not far from the man. That is an
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: epic failure, epic failure.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Wherever this is, Yeah, that's where it's at. So I
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: don't know. You guys saw the statue. It's one of
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: the most interesting things I've ever seen in a while.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: And there is some amazing if you want to go
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole and X or something like that
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: and just read through all the stuff, it's literally one
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: of the crazy Do you guys remember the Cristiano Ronaldo one?
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: Someone just said that I did. I got to look
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: it up.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just as bad. I think I just killed it.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: But we turned the show right off the rails now.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: But it's worse.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: We already got the important stuff, by the way, Yeah,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: this is That's what I'm saying, though, Like every statue
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: that comes out is like really good. Seriously looks like
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: a full on replica of the person. Like, how is
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: this one so far off? It's not even.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: His face is like not even what is that?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: It's like it does even him the face. Yeah, the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: same company.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: But okay, well that if that's true, that makes a
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: hell of a lot of sense. Like how can how
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: can you say, all right, yeah like this company did Ronaldo?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: We want like why like you gotta say, hell, no,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: I'm going complete opposite of this thing.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'm trying to find other ones.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: If there's never been anything worse. Yeah, that that Dwayne
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Wade one is certainly, in my opinion, the worst one
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: that we've seen in a while.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: So there's no I mean, you just can't even tell
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I mean not even close.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what Philly's talking about. If you want
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: to go down a rabbit hole, just do that. It's
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: absolutely insane looking at them. Halt breaking it all down.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think we covered enough on this one
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: that we got right down to the statues. Hopefully, uh
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: you know, we can find some w's up top tonight
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: and move off these statues. But I will say interesting
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Slate will be in the discord. We'll have everything up
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: over at ship at Nation. Congrats to the winners. We'll
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: get you taken care of. Like I said, for Crazy
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Psycho whatever it was, reach out info at and then GK.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Fifer we'll get you set up in the discord. Just
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: reach out to Hoop for that one hundred dollars ticket
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: that's gonna move for this one guys, for title for Hoop,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: for myself, Totech and tambo Let ship.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: It still no doubt an no Mists still