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Free Agent Priority & Trevor Lawrence Leadership | Jags Happy Hour: Thursday, February 23 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February twenty third. This is Jaguar's Happy
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Speaker 1: Hour and now the man you've all been waiting for
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Speaker 1: and Jay Peace Shadrick. Oh yeah, the weight is over
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Speaker 1: because the hiatus is over. Welcome back. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: It is Thursday. Yes, I am j P. Shadrick. That's
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Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato print Reber on the videos side today. No
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Speaker 1: Jeff Logaman, he's out and we'll be out next week
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Speaker 1: at the Combines. He won't see him for a couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks or hear from him in a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: We got a jam pack show here on tint, nexcel Am,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com, Jacks, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Well, it's
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Speaker 1: offseason business time. The franchise tag window is open. The
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Speaker 1: start of the league year begins mid March. We'll get
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Speaker 1: into some of the Jaguar possibilities throughout this show. We'll
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Speaker 1: hear from Pride of the Jaguars running back Taylor in
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Speaker 1: about five minutes time. See what he's been up to
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Speaker 1: this offseason. He's been busy on the pivot as always.
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Speaker 1: Senior writer John Osier. About four fifteen or so, we'll
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Speaker 1: hear from Johnny Oh and discuss some of that offseason
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Speaker 1: business and preview our trip to Indianapolis next week for
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Speaker 1: the NFL Scouting Combine and then NFL Network ESPN, Sirius XM,
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Speaker 1: Westwood One analyst Ryan Leaf joining us at four thirty today,
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Speaker 1: former number two overall pick in the nineteen ninety eight draft.
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Speaker 1: We've got the ninety eight draft on Lockdown today with
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Speaker 1: Fred Taylor the ninth overall pick, Ryan Leaf at number
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Speaker 1: two in that draft. We'll catch up with Ryan, see
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Speaker 1: what he's been up to and get his thoughts on
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars run in twenty twenty two and some of
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Speaker 1: the offseason moves that are possible in the NFL. And
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Speaker 1: of course we'll go around the NFL at the end
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Speaker 1: of the program today. So offseason is underway. We had
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Speaker 1: a few weeks down after the end of the playoff
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Speaker 1: front here in our offices, but they have been busy
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Speaker 1: over on the other side. Of course, that it was
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Speaker 1: a quick turnaround after the loss in the division around
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Speaker 1: in Kansas City two days later, the players are gone
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Speaker 1: and it's just a quick move forward to the offseason business.
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Speaker 1: And as we said, the league year begins in mid March,
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Speaker 1: so you got to get down to the salary cap
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Speaker 1: before then. There's a number of pending free agents for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars that you've got to figure out, Hey, did
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Speaker 1: we want to get these guys back? Can we send
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Speaker 1: some of these players early? Do you let him go
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Speaker 1: to marketplace and come back? And there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: questions around that, of course, And one of the biggest
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Speaker 1: names in that regard, of course, is Evan Ingram, who
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Speaker 1: has been a big topic this offseason already because of
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Speaker 1: his production. He had a career year in a one
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Speaker 1: year prove it deal with the Jaguars last season. He
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Speaker 1: was on Sirius XM Radio this week on Sirius XM
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Speaker 1: NFL Radio Channel eighty eight, and they asked him about
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Speaker 1: the possibility of the franchise tag being applied. In his thoughts,
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Speaker 1: it's a hypothetical, so it could happen, it could not,
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Speaker 1: but you know, if that happens, I think that that
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Speaker 1: will be a placeholder and you know, to get something done.
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Speaker 1: I think that's just kind of just the way I
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Speaker 1: feel about it. And if it does come to that,
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Speaker 1: you know, there'll be conversations have with my team and
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Speaker 1: who will before from there. But if that does happen,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be blessed either way, and we'll figure something
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Speaker 1: out long term that can you know, both sides will
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Speaker 1: be happy with well. He also said in that interview
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Speaker 1: that both sides are interested still as he you know,
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Speaker 1: he also said there hasn't been a lot of talk yet,
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Speaker 1: but they the talk's coming because the Elite year begins
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Speaker 1: in just a couple of weeks time. And what a
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Speaker 1: year it was. As we said, career highs and catches,
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Speaker 1: seventy three of those in yardage, seven hundred and sixty
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Speaker 1: six receiving yards, four touchdowns, and he was fantastic. His
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Speaker 1: first touchdown came Week eight in London and then he
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Speaker 1: finished things strong and a big piece of this passing
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Speaker 1: offense last year. And you know they're gonna have an addition,
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Speaker 1: hopefully in Calvin Ridley as well, to go with it.
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Speaker 1: So you know, you throw that in the mix and
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Speaker 1: then Ingram and everything else that's going on here in
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Speaker 1: this offense, and this is this is gearing up to
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Speaker 1: be a fantastic, fantastic offensive group. Trevor Lawrence going in
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Speaker 1: the year three, year two, in this offense, everything could
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Speaker 1: be adding up they'll have some different coaches around them though.
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Speaker 1: Wide receiver coach Chad Hall has joined the team and
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Speaker 1: passing game coordinator Nick Holes added officially today. That announcement
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Speaker 1: came out, replacing Jim Bob Cooter, and Cooter is now
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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis as the offensive coordinator there. Holes spent last
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Speaker 1: year at U and LV as the offensive coordinator a
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Speaker 1: number of years before that, about a decade with the
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Speaker 1: Raiders and a number of different roles a little bit
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Speaker 1: down the ladder in Las Vegas. But Holes now the
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Speaker 1: passing game coordinator for the Jaguars. He'll have some pieces
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Speaker 1: to work with. This is Jaguars Happy r on Tin
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Speaker 1: ten XEL and Jaguars dot Com. J P. Shadrick with you,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Loghman out this week. Our first round pick, quarterback
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Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf coming up at four thirty today. He was
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Speaker 1: a part of that nineteen ninety eight draft, as was
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Speaker 1: pride of the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor, who joins
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Speaker 1: us right now. Fred, it's good to talk to you.
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Speaker 1: Happy twenty twenty three and thanks for the time today, Man.
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Speaker 1: What's up? My pleasure to JP Man, I appreciate you.
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Speaker 1: Happy twenty twenty three. It's been a while, it's been
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Speaker 1: a few weeks. I guess we just had some time away.
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Speaker 1: It's the first showback unhappy hour since the end of
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Speaker 1: the postseason run. And you know, it happens quick, right
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Speaker 1: that you're losing the postseason. Then two days later the
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Speaker 1: players are gone and you're looking ahead to the business
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Speaker 1: of the offseason. And there is some business to attend
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Speaker 1: to for the Jags. Fred. They've got to figure out
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Speaker 1: the salary cap. They've got to figure out with what
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Speaker 1: like fourteen pending free agents something like that, how many
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Speaker 1: of those guys come back? This team won. So the
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Speaker 1: players say the right things at the end of the season,
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Speaker 1: we want everybody back. Well, it's just not possible that way, Fred,
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Speaker 1: So how do you prioritize some of those guys? JP?
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Speaker 1: You hit it on the head man. You know it's
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Speaker 1: a lot, it's a tall order, but it's a quick turnaround,
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Speaker 1: it seems. I know. The fans can get a bit,
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Speaker 1: you know, impatient, you know, after basketball is done and
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Speaker 1: baseball is a little slow, and fans want football, but
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Speaker 1: it's just the process of it all. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm with you. You won't be able to get everybody back.
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Speaker 1: It always sounds good at the end of the season,
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Speaker 1: but it's not possible. Why But I think you start
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Speaker 1: with you know, the salary cap, crunching those numbers, you
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Speaker 1: don't see where you are and see what type of
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Speaker 1: flexibility you have, and then you prioritize from there. You know,
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Speaker 1: I've been reading some stuff and I also thought at
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Speaker 1: the end of the season that Evan Ingram would be
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Speaker 1: someone that they would you know, target high on that
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Speaker 1: priority list. And then they have to figure out what
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Speaker 1: they want to do from a defensive standpoint, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think building around Trevor, they've done a good job
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Speaker 1: there at the receiving or and then you also add
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Speaker 1: you know Calvin Realley when he once he's reinstated, which
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Speaker 1: I thought was an amazing uh get and grab, you
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Speaker 1: know when nobody was thinking it. So um, you know,
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Speaker 1: they're they're tied at the running back position as well,
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Speaker 1: so they got to tighten up some other that areas.
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Speaker 1: But you know it's still so early to combine is
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Speaker 1: among us, so they'll they'll figure it out here shortly,
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Speaker 1: Fred Taylor with us. You mentioned Ridley and yeah, he
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Speaker 1: applied for reinstatement. I think the fifteenth was the first
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Speaker 1: day he could do it, and he applied. So there's
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Speaker 1: no real timetable on the decision from Park Avenue, New York.
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Speaker 1: If you know, if he's reinstated or win, that could be.
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Speaker 1: But when he's back, what can you expect from him? Fred?
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Speaker 1: Of me, he played five games two seasons ago. He
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Speaker 1: was suspended all of last year, so he hasn't played
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Speaker 1: football in a while now. Bucky Brooks told us on
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Speaker 1: a podcast yesterday, he's hearing that he's in fantastic shape
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Speaker 1: and all that. That's great, Fred, but that's a little
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Speaker 1: different than football shape, isn't it. And what can you
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Speaker 1: expect when he finally gets back out there. You know,
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Speaker 1: he's one of those guys who you know, he's simply
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Speaker 1: just a natural talent. You know, he's only in year five.
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Speaker 1: He's the guy who's you know, I love his run
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Speaker 1: after the catchability, has extremely soft hands. He's a standout
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Speaker 1: back at Alabama. He understands the game, he understands the position,
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Speaker 1: and he's a Florida boy. So so I'm always rooting
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Speaker 1: for him, and I think he will be reinstated. You know,
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Speaker 1: I mean, guys have done worse. I don't condone you know,
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Speaker 1: things that are against the rules. I think you follow
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Speaker 1: the rules. But at the same time, you know, a
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Speaker 1: bit of a touch file with what he did, considering
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Speaker 1: the direction of the NFL that the NFL is going
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Speaker 1: with gambling, et cetera. But again, I think he will
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Speaker 1: be reinstated. I think he'll be a weapon for the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: might just come in, you know, find his way into
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Speaker 1: the you know, the number two or the number one slot.
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Speaker 1: He's just that good. And I think he'll bounce back.
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Speaker 1: I think he'll knock the rust off and get back
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Speaker 1: into tip top form as he was when he h
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Speaker 1: you know, when he was at his best. Fred how
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Speaker 1: this is an offseason without much change. This is a
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Speaker 1: stable organization for the first time in a long time
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Speaker 1: in terms of the coaching staff. Only a couple of changes,
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Speaker 1: wide receiver coach, passing game coordinator. Everybody else's back there.
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Speaker 1: Most of the core of the football team should be
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Speaker 1: back around, as you know, a couple of free agents
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Speaker 1: here there, but the core nucleus of guys, quarterback, receivers,
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Speaker 1: a couple of the offensive linemen. Right, So that's that's
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Speaker 1: a huge step. If you can get to that point
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Speaker 1: where you're stable from one year to the next. It
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Speaker 1: just hasn't happened in a few years around here, and
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Speaker 1: you can't really underestimate the importance of that. Once you
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Speaker 1: begin the offseason program. You know, yeah, I'm with you
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Speaker 1: a million percent this time. I usually see a thousand percent,
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Speaker 1: but a million percent this time, JP, And that I
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Speaker 1: used to say it all the time. You know, consistency,
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Speaker 1: that's what it takes, or at least that's the foundation
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Speaker 1: of growing and going further and being finding that success,
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Speaker 1: finding your way deep in the playoffs in the super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: You gotta have consistency. You gotta have players in the
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Speaker 1: system that are returning each and every year. You know,
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Speaker 1: maybe a nucleus, nucleus of eight of the eleven guys.
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Speaker 1: Guys you wanted to make sure that they're returning each
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Speaker 1: and every year so that they can play fast. And
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Speaker 1: it doesn't take make much for a coordinator. They get
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Speaker 1: the younger or the newer guys, you know, are ingrained
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Speaker 1: and situated in the system. I always looked at a
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Speaker 1: team such as the Pittsburgh Stealers. They were the one
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Speaker 1: team that you know, for eight nineteen year period, you
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Speaker 1: see the same guys on that defense. You look on
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Speaker 1: the offense for the most part, it's the same guys.
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Speaker 1: It's a plug and play type of system, and you
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Speaker 1: have to have that consistency. So back in the day JP,
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Speaker 1: I can remember vividly, you know, under the Del Rio regime,
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Speaker 1: it was a new coach, like two or three new
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Speaker 1: coaches or someone fired each and every off season. I'm like,
11:23
Speaker 1: you're playing chess. These guys are puns and your you know, crazy,
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Speaker 1: you know, distractionary mindset. I don't know, you sort of
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Speaker 1: deflect from what you're doing by getting rid of everybody
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Speaker 1: else when you simply shoudgest start with yourself. And I
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Speaker 1: think we have so much integrity from top down now,
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Speaker 1: you know, starting with Doug Peterson and it trickles throughout
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Speaker 1: his staff, I believe. So I look forward to watching
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Speaker 1: this team grow over the next couple of years. Last
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Speaker 1: start with you here, Fred, what's going on with the
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Speaker 1: pivot these days? Still successful? It's it's everywhere on social media.
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Speaker 1: It really blasted off this past season. You're obviously a
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Speaker 1: huge piece of that. So what do you have on
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Speaker 1: the docket coming up with the pivot? The pivot is
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Speaker 1: making making its rounds. Man, We're still growing, still enjoying
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Speaker 1: the grind. You know, it's always we're always on the go.
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Speaker 1: We had to pivot pun intended and change our plans
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Speaker 1: this week. We were scheduled to go out to Denver
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Speaker 1: and knock out like three three shows out there. We
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Speaker 1: had hope to grab four or five, but the weather
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Speaker 1: was kind of tricky, so we decided to come here
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Speaker 1: to South Florida and shoot today. So we'll have a
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Speaker 1: shoot here at five thirty, trying to grab two when
12:44
Speaker 1: we go. We try to get at least two or better,
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Speaker 1: but sometimes you have that one big fish and you
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Speaker 1: just got to take it. But it's it's it's been fun.
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Speaker 1: I've learned a lot, you know. I enjoy the guests.
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Speaker 1: I enjoy I'm a fan boy a lot of the
12:57
Speaker 1: time of a lot of the guests, and I love
12:59
Speaker 1: picking their brain or ask questions about stories that we've heard.
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Speaker 1: So the Pivot is doing pivot things, man, and uh,
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Speaker 1: I never thought I would be on a podcast talking
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Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, but the time and it's fun. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: check it out. The Pivot. The Pivot. He's all over
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Speaker 1: ESPN now with that and everywhere social media. Check it out.
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Speaker 1: You're a TV star, Fred, You're look at every Like Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: I look up at the lunch room and there's Fred
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Speaker 1: Taylor talking to stephen A. I'm like, okay, that's that's
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Speaker 1: that's our ss, that's Ryan's connection. So you know, they
13:37
Speaker 1: see what we're doing and they see we like to
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Speaker 1: have a good time and we try to, you know,
13:42
Speaker 1: be open when we give our takes. So first take
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Speaker 1: has been really fun and cool. You know, the baby
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Speaker 1: to host that show and what do people think of
13:51
Speaker 1: us over there's a pretty much an open invitation, so
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Speaker 1: we enjoy that. But yeah, man, and you know what,
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Speaker 1: let me do this jap before we shut it down.
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Speaker 1: Yeah man, the duvall until we Die people sent me
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Speaker 1: a box to three hats. This isn't even my favorite one,
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Speaker 1: but it's nice because it has the Army fatigue and
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Speaker 1: I got on my favorite Jaguar hoodie of all time.
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Speaker 1: This is like I don't know, I don't know, eight
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Speaker 1: ten years old, but yes, shout out to these people. Man,
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Speaker 1: I think this was sweet. Whoever took that and ran
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Speaker 1: with it, congrats and I appreciate the hat, so big
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Speaker 1: shout out to y'all. Big shout out to you, Fred,
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Speaker 1: Thanks for the time. Always good to visit and we'll
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Speaker 1: talk again soon hopefully, Yes we will, JP, I'll see you,
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Speaker 1: Fred Taylor proud of the Jaguars running back. Yeah, he's
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Speaker 1: loaded up. He's got the camouflage bill on that at
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Speaker 1: he's got the military appreciation sweatshirts. You know who else
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Speaker 1: has loaded up as John Ozier, Jaguars dot Com senior
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Speaker 1: writer who joins us in just a moment. The twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty three season is on the horizon and you want
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Speaker 1: want to miss it, So lock in your seat to
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Speaker 1: Jaguars now for thirty It's Ryan Leaf. John Ozer is
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Speaker 1: Nexus Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. I
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Speaker 1: don't look at it like that. I think you know,
15:29
Speaker 1: we're paid to do a job and had jobs to
15:31
Speaker 1: put the best product we can out on the field.
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Speaker 1: And I've never listened to the noise. The noise doesn't
15:37
Speaker 1: determine the decisions that we're going to make as an organization.
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Speaker 1: And I think the best thing you can do when
15:44
Speaker 1: there's a lot of noises, put earplugs in, you know,
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Speaker 1: and just go buch your job. And that's what we
15:49
Speaker 1: tried to do. And again it's there's never one person
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Speaker 1: that makes these decisions. It's it's a group decision, organizational decision.
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Speaker 1: Doug and I are very much involved together in this process,
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Speaker 1: and we involved everybody underneath us to a m degree.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a lot of collaboration that people
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Speaker 1: don't don't see behind the scenes. Trip Vaalky Jaguars general manager.
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Speaker 1: A couple of days after the end of the playoff run.
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Speaker 1: He spoke I believe two days well three days after
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Speaker 1: the game. Players and Doug Peterson spoke two days after
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Speaker 1: the game. He was the day after. That's been more
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Speaker 1: Tuesday after the Divisional round Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour,
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Speaker 1: JP Shadrick no Jeff Logham in this week. He'll be
16:34
Speaker 1: out for a couple of weeks. We'll be in the
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Speaker 1: Indian next week, so we'll have a show from the
16:38
Speaker 1: Indian Indiana Convention Center right next to Lucas Oil Stadium
16:42
Speaker 1: next week at the NFL Scouting Combine. If you're ready
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Speaker 1: to renew your season tickets, the time is now renew
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Speaker 1: Awars dot Com senior writer John Osier joining us now
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Speaker 1: here on the desk in studio. Good to see it, Johnny, Ooh,
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Speaker 1: what's I've had a few full on experiences, I would say,
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Speaker 1: so you are well experienced, certainly. And we're back this week, right,
17:14
Speaker 1: we're back Tuesday podcast. Were Ye, we're everywhere everywhere you
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Speaker 1: want to be. I think that's taken, but yeah, we're
17:22
Speaker 1: That's what we are this week. Huddle up yesterday with
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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks and we'll be at the combine next week.
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Speaker 1: And how many how many combines if you had to
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Speaker 1: add them up, if you covered in your past? My
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Speaker 1: first one was oh one, and I've been at every
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Speaker 1: one of them except the ones they didn't have since
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Speaker 1: that meaning COVID twenty twenty one. They didn't have one
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Speaker 1: twenty they had one right before COVID started, and last
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Speaker 1: year we were back twenty one, So I guess twenty
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Speaker 1: one twenty first, I guess or in that range, because
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Speaker 1: uh I did. My first one was covering the Jacks
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Speaker 1: for the Times Union. No one was an Indie forever
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Speaker 1: and only had to drive there, So yeah, it's uh,
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Speaker 1: I don't have the same I did. I did cover
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Speaker 1: it before there was podium access, before coaches went on
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Speaker 1: the podium, and it was dramatically different. Friends of mine
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Speaker 1: and Pete Prisco, some other writers who covered it about
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Speaker 1: ten years before that, it will tell you it is
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Speaker 1: the most remarkably changed event over the last thirty years
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, because there was a time where I
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Speaker 1: think Pete has stories of being there with five or
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Speaker 1: six other writers. Maybe it's and it's the explosion of
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Speaker 1: coverage on that event and the NFL's ability to make
18:48
Speaker 1: what essentially is a is a very boring event to
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Speaker 1: cover because watching guys run forties is not that exciting.
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Speaker 1: But they have made it an event on the calendar
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Speaker 1: that you would have never dreamed. It was twenty years again,
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Speaker 1: and the funny thing is it must go now. Yeah,
19:06
Speaker 1: And we'll get into a lot of this, of course
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Speaker 1: next week in Indianapolis. Throughout our coverage on Jaguars dot com.
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Speaker 1: But it's really two different events. Now. Yeah, like we're
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Speaker 1: gonna go not cover the testing or the forties or
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Speaker 1: any of that, because that starts Thursday with different position
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Speaker 1: groups and goes for a few days after that, we're
19:22
Speaker 1: out of talent. On Friday, we're chasing GM and coach
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Speaker 1: and getting thoughts on the run last year and the
19:29
Speaker 1: offseason I had. And that's that's really that's the big
19:32
Speaker 1: mile marker for us in the off season. Yeah, it
19:35
Speaker 1: is turned into a convention information reset time, and by
19:42
Speaker 1: that I mean this is the time where everybody goes up.
19:45
Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing. Everybody goes up wanting
19:49
Speaker 1: to talk to their GM and their coach. It's a
19:52
Speaker 1: chance for the GM and the coach to answer some
19:55
Speaker 1: big questions or in most cases talk around a lot
20:00
Speaker 1: of big question down the road. Yeah, right, well, or
20:04
Speaker 1: address and again, our our big questions next week will
20:07
Speaker 1: be hey, Juwan Taylor, Evan ingram resetting, looking ahead to
20:12
Speaker 1: the draft. Well, nobody really expects Trent Balky to come
20:14
Speaker 1: out and say, hey, we're gonna do this, which that's fine,
20:18
Speaker 1: but you'll get an idea. You have a little better
20:21
Speaker 1: feel for the direction of the team and sort of
20:23
Speaker 1: what they want to do. You'll have things to talk
20:24
Speaker 1: about and uh and I discussion points and again the
20:28
Speaker 1: NFL has had a masterful job of that's the nice
20:33
Speaker 1: sort of lead up to free agency, and then free
20:35
Speaker 1: agency hits about two weeks after that. And the way
20:38
Speaker 1: you go, John Osha with us, it's Jaguars Happy Hour.
20:41
Speaker 1: It's our first show back after a brief hiatus after
20:44
Speaker 1: the playoff run. JP Shadrick with you, we mentioned a
20:48
Speaker 1: couple of those names. I think you know, the free
20:50
Speaker 1: agent list is what fourteen fifteen guys that are pending
20:55
Speaker 1: unrestricted free agents for the Jaguars. Who would be the
21:00
Speaker 1: number one priority of that list in your opinion? Well,
21:03
Speaker 1: as you mentioned a couple names there, and yeah, I
21:05
Speaker 1: think you can go either way. Yeah, I've gone back
21:07
Speaker 1: and forth. When I was asked right after the season,
21:12
Speaker 1: I said Juwan Taylor because I think he's really important
21:15
Speaker 1: their offensive line, and I think the offense, you know,
21:17
Speaker 1: and either two ones everybody everybody's talking about more than
21:20
Speaker 1: any or Juwan Taylor and Evan Ingram, but Art and
21:24
Speaker 1: Key's important, you know, those are the three that to
21:28
Speaker 1: me stand out uh Smoot would be higher on my
21:33
Speaker 1: list had not been for the Achilles, But he's an
21:36
Speaker 1: important He's an important entity out of Taylor and Ingram.
21:41
Speaker 1: I honestly have gone back and forth. Taylor's really important
21:45
Speaker 1: because offensive line play, you want to protect that quarterback
21:49
Speaker 1: and he had a very good season last year, and
21:54
Speaker 1: he's He's particularly important conceptually because remember last year they
21:58
Speaker 1: talked so much about wanting to resign their guys, and
22:01
Speaker 1: here is a guy. If you resign him, then you've
22:04
Speaker 1: resigned your two tackles. That's a foundation point. They wanted
22:07
Speaker 1: to do that last year. So it's important. Um. I
22:10
Speaker 1: guess the question there though, I mean, how much money
22:12
Speaker 1: can you really throw at the offensive line? That's the
22:16
Speaker 1: answer might be there's not enough money that you can
22:19
Speaker 1: throw it as much as you want at the offensive well,
22:21
Speaker 1: and that would put them in huge contracts at three
22:25
Speaker 1: of the five positions for this year. But then after
22:29
Speaker 1: this year, some of the contracts that got signed last
22:32
Speaker 1: year aren't necessarily as um as. They're not to the
22:41
Speaker 1: point where you have to keep those guys. If something
22:45
Speaker 1: if a situation where you thought Walker Little was absolutely
22:48
Speaker 1: ready to be that left tackle, then next year, Cam
22:52
Speaker 1: Robinson's contract is not as I can't find the work.
22:59
Speaker 1: You're right, it doesn't change you to him, so it
23:02
Speaker 1: gives you flexibility and then after next year you can
23:05
Speaker 1: make that decision. So again, I think they would love
23:08
Speaker 1: to get Juan Taylor back, and I would guess they're
23:11
Speaker 1: prepared to pay a very high number to do that.
23:14
Speaker 1: And yet at some point there's always a number you
23:16
Speaker 1: can't go pass. I think that's a huge question, and
23:20
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram at that position. I think they desperately, not desperately,
23:26
Speaker 1: but they very much want to get a long term
23:27
Speaker 1: deal done. I think he wants to get a deal done,
23:30
Speaker 1: and I think the tag bare minimum. I think they
23:35
Speaker 1: would use the TAG late in the process to give
23:38
Speaker 1: them time to figure out other cap situations to make
23:42
Speaker 1: it more workable to sign Evan too long toom Be,
23:47
Speaker 1: I would be shocked if Evan's not here. I would
23:51
Speaker 1: not be shocked if Juan's not here, even though I
23:53
Speaker 1: think both sides very much want that to happen too,
23:55
Speaker 1: because the number will be much different, right, I mean,
23:58
Speaker 1: the number the Jawan Taylor is going to command is
24:01
Speaker 1: gonna be in theory much higher. Well, and even the
24:05
Speaker 1: tag with Juwan eighteen million dollars. Yeah, and that's a
24:09
Speaker 1: big difference. Even in NFL money where everything is sort
24:12
Speaker 1: of play money, that's a big difference than the eleven
24:15
Speaker 1: I think it would be for well, I mean it's
24:17
Speaker 1: not playing money to the guy sign of the check. Well,
24:21
Speaker 1: but you know the point. Um, So even that that
24:26
Speaker 1: that seven millions a big difference in terms of trying
24:28
Speaker 1: to get to a cap number this year. And then
24:32
Speaker 1: the one people aren't really talking about that much. Arden
24:35
Speaker 1: keys pretty important in that. I mean he was as
24:38
Speaker 1: consistently and reliably as impactful as any Jaguars pass rusher
24:44
Speaker 1: last year. Uh, Andrew Wingard was important in terms of
24:49
Speaker 1: a lot of things in this locker room. Chris Manhertz
24:51
Speaker 1: is very interesting to me because you can say that
24:56
Speaker 1: he was the X number tight end, but he was
24:58
Speaker 1: important to that running game. And you know, you want
25:01
Speaker 1: to get guys like that back, you want to keep
25:04
Speaker 1: get like, yeah, guys like that in the fold. So
25:07
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting specifics to ask about next week,
25:10
Speaker 1: confidently will be asked about. I'm sure if there's not
25:13
Speaker 1: a resolution before next week, and they may not have
25:17
Speaker 1: an answer next week either or those questions that are
25:20
Speaker 1: sure to come in in the Annapolis, but it is
25:22
Speaker 1: one of the big pieces of the off season. I
25:24
Speaker 1: think his contracts would about eleven million dollars for next year.
25:28
Speaker 1: Next year the last year of his contract because he
25:31
Speaker 1: didn't didn't it told over to this year, so this
25:34
Speaker 1: will be his fifth year in the NFL. He's a
25:36
Speaker 1: first round pick, so here you go one year kind
25:39
Speaker 1: of prove it deal for Ridley once he is reinstated.
25:42
Speaker 1: And you know, we were talking to Fred about it.
25:44
Speaker 1: It's been a topic all offseason what he could bring
25:47
Speaker 1: to this offense. But first off, I just got to
25:49
Speaker 1: get him back reinstated. Second, get him pitching the ball
25:53
Speaker 1: around with Trevor somewhere. I'm sure they'll go on their
25:55
Speaker 1: own somewhere and do some of that like they did
25:57
Speaker 1: last year. Of course with the rest of the guys,
25:59
Speaker 1: I think they went to them amas or something that's
26:01
Speaker 1: not outside of the realm of possibility. And then the
26:04
Speaker 1: offseason program is mid April, the strength and conditioning, and
26:07
Speaker 1: then they're on the field for OTAs and that's how
26:10
Speaker 1: you start building that chemistry. Well, then that's the important part,
26:13
Speaker 1: is actually getting on the field together. I think The
26:16
Speaker 1: nice thing for the franchise end for him in this
26:19
Speaker 1: is they acquired him in very low risk fashion for
26:25
Speaker 1: the potential that he could have at the high end,
26:28
Speaker 1: and you have a situation where you have a very
26:32
Speaker 1: functioning offense around him, because I do think you'll bring
26:36
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram back. So now, if there are six key
26:40
Speaker 1: pieces in terms of the offensive skill positions around here,
26:43
Speaker 1: meaning quarterback, running back, and tight end and three receivers,
26:50
Speaker 1: you've got the other five all returning, all feeling like
26:54
Speaker 1: there was a lot of chemistry. So while you believe
26:58
Speaker 1: and while their reputation is that Calvin Ridley has the
27:01
Speaker 1: ability to be a one, if he's a three to
27:04
Speaker 1: start off with, well, then you're basically plugging him for
27:08
Speaker 1: the Marvin Jones role. And you saw last year you
27:12
Speaker 1: can function at a very high level with those other
27:14
Speaker 1: five playing a huge role and Marvin Jones making key catches.
27:19
Speaker 1: If that starts out as Ridley's role and he needs
27:22
Speaker 1: time to grow into bigger role, okay, then you're the
27:26
Speaker 1: tenth best offense in the NFL, which they were last year.
27:28
Speaker 1: I'm saying theoretically, as he grows, how much better can
27:32
Speaker 1: they get? I think It's an ideal situation for Calvin
27:35
Speaker 1: to come into, and I don't know if it felt
27:36
Speaker 1: his ideal when he first got traded because it was
27:39
Speaker 1: in November they weren't playing that well yet, and then
27:41
Speaker 1: the last two months I think you felt what this
27:45
Speaker 1: offense can be. So I think I think there's as
27:49
Speaker 1: little pressure on Ridley coming in as there possibly could
27:54
Speaker 1: be for a receiver coming in in his situation. Very
27:58
Speaker 1: good situation for Ridley. Johnny looking forward to going back
28:02
Speaker 1: to Indy with you. It's been a few years since
28:04
Speaker 1: I've been up with you, so um, this should be
28:07
Speaker 1: a fun week next week, once we get up there
28:09
Speaker 1: and settled. Yeah, it's really the week I think most
28:11
Speaker 1: fans know this where you really set the tone for
28:15
Speaker 1: the offseason. You get a lot more talking points and
28:19
Speaker 1: get a much better feel for the team is than
28:21
Speaker 1: right now, and it's it's a chance for GM coach
28:27
Speaker 1: other people to start to come out of the bunker,
28:29
Speaker 1: if you will. They've they've now had the conversations. We
28:32
Speaker 1: all want to know desperately what's going on. We'll probably
28:34
Speaker 1: till a couple of weeks ago. They really didn't didn't
28:37
Speaker 1: know their process. So now they're much more ready and
28:41
Speaker 1: much more ready, so it's a perfect time to have
28:43
Speaker 1: this kind of opportunity. Thanks for the time, Johnny, good
28:46
Speaker 1: to see you. Other forward to seeing you on Monday.
28:47
Speaker 1: Jes writing Jaguars dot Com. They've had he and Bucky
28:51
Speaker 1: have had Bucky Brooks might have heard of him. I
28:54
Speaker 1: have had reviews of position groups that have started on
28:57
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com. Quarterback was the other day. That was
29:00
Speaker 1: a pretty good year for that position group, Like running
29:03
Speaker 1: backs went up today. What's next, John, It'll be a
29:06
Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight end and I'm Johnny as you go
29:08
Speaker 1: through what you learn JP. Wow, were they healthy and
29:14
Speaker 1: consistent at so many positions and where they got injured
29:17
Speaker 1: they had to depth to cover for it. So see
29:20
Speaker 1: if that can hold true next year. That's John Ozer,
29:22
Speaker 1: Senior writer, Jaguars dot Com. Up next, Ryan Leaf joining us.
29:26
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. I
29:35
Speaker 1: don't think we even really clicked fully until probably halfway
29:40
Speaker 1: through the season. So just to look at that and
29:41
Speaker 1: the amount of growth that we had in one year,
29:44
Speaker 1: just to jump up we'll be able to make from
29:46
Speaker 1: year one to two is really exciting and Obviously, it's
29:50
Speaker 1: gonna take a lot of work, and it's the same
29:51
Speaker 1: thing that we did last year to prepare ourselves for
29:53
Speaker 1: this year. We gotta we gotta do that in the
29:56
Speaker 1: offseason and get together and we will and after we
29:58
Speaker 1: take a little bit of time really rest to get
30:01
Speaker 1: our minds right and get ready to make a run.
30:04
Speaker 1: That's Trevor Lawrence, of course, Jaguars quarterback after year or two,
30:07
Speaker 1: a career season four him and really the back half
30:10
Speaker 1: of the season was what the focus was after a
30:13
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30:16
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30:19
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30:22
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30:41
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Speaker 1: got the ninety eight draft covered today because Ryan Leaf
30:48
Speaker 1: is up next. He was the number two pick in
30:50
Speaker 1: that draft, and he's the hardest working man in show
30:53
Speaker 1: business these days. You're everywhere Ryan, NFL Network, ESPN, serious X,
31:00
Speaker 1: and Westwood one points. Bet, it's great to talk with you, man.
31:03
Speaker 1: How are you good to see you, brother? It's been
31:06
Speaker 1: a while. It's been a little bit. Was that November? Yeah,
31:09
Speaker 1: somewhere in there. We were out in La together, did
31:12
Speaker 1: the Southern Cow UCLA game at the Rose Bowl, and
31:15
Speaker 1: spend a little time together you and the family. Good
31:17
Speaker 1: to see you again, and and here we are. I mean,
31:20
Speaker 1: I don't know how you find time for other things.
31:24
Speaker 1: I mean you're working constantly and then you go speak
31:27
Speaker 1: to groups about your your path and everything that's come
31:30
Speaker 1: with it. So, um, your your plate is full right now.
31:34
Speaker 1: It feels like it is, but I don't I wouldn't
31:38
Speaker 1: have it any other way simply because you know, idle
31:43
Speaker 1: hands for me, you know, idle mind is not a
31:46
Speaker 1: good place to be for a long period of time.
31:50
Speaker 1: So I've kind of developed this this mindset of being
31:52
Speaker 1: a shark, you know, always moving, and uh, it's it
31:55
Speaker 1: seemed to have served me well over the last you know,
31:58
Speaker 1: eight years or so. Having a five year old helps
32:00
Speaker 1: that because now I'm chasing his little tail around everywhere,
32:03
Speaker 1: and you know, he's he's the most important piece of
32:07
Speaker 1: the puzzle right now. Ryan Leaf with us, we just
32:10
Speaker 1: started from Trevor Lawrence there, and you know what a
32:13
Speaker 1: season it was both ways it was. You know, he
32:17
Speaker 1: had just so many ups and downs this year. First
32:19
Speaker 1: half throwing interceptions, but four fumbles in a game in Philadelphia,
32:24
Speaker 1: things aren't going well. First and goal interception in London
32:27
Speaker 1: against Denver. That was really the turning point, he said,
32:30
Speaker 1: and then he started to protect the football and things
32:33
Speaker 1: went well the rest of the way. Then of course
32:35
Speaker 1: he has the four turnover game and the playoffs and
32:39
Speaker 1: turns it around and they rally back and win. So
32:41
Speaker 1: he really covered the gamut of this season. But you know,
32:46
Speaker 1: moving ahead, building off that, how do you build off
32:49
Speaker 1: a season like Trevor Lawrence just had. Oh well, I
32:53
Speaker 1: think there's a ton to build off of, right. I
32:55
Speaker 1: think there was an incredible success. There was a winning
32:57
Speaker 1: a division. There's getting to the playoffs, and there's also
33:00
Speaker 1: the mindset that one can struggle right and find a
33:03
Speaker 1: way to overcome the fact that I just you know,
33:06
Speaker 1: I only threw four interceptions a couple of times in
33:07
Speaker 1: my career, but I there's no way if I threw
33:10
Speaker 1: four him in the first half, there's I would have
33:13
Speaker 1: had the four to two to come back and do
33:14
Speaker 1: what he did in the playoff game against the Chargers.
33:16
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the individual that he is is he
33:18
Speaker 1: can throw it away, you know, put it behind him
33:21
Speaker 1: and move on, and the guys trust him and Doug
33:23
Speaker 1: Peterson's going to continue. You watch the jump from year
33:26
Speaker 1: one to year two. That's where I always, buddy, everybody
33:29
Speaker 1: looks at and I know this is year three for him,
33:31
Speaker 1: but he really didn't have a year one and everybody
33:33
Speaker 1: should understand that. Fully. Urban Meyer was an absolute just
33:38
Speaker 1: you know, dumpster fire for a young rookie quarterback like that.
33:41
Speaker 1: And so what Doug Peterson's been able to bring to
33:43
Speaker 1: the table this year and how he's performed, I think
33:45
Speaker 1: is so special. I expect to big leap a big jump,
33:48
Speaker 1: especially taking care of the football a year from now,
33:51
Speaker 1: and just hearing him talk like he gets his role
33:54
Speaker 1: in the organization and what he says matters and how
33:58
Speaker 1: he goes about that and I think that he has
34:00
Speaker 1: the respect to that locker room too. You have to
34:03
Speaker 1: earn that kind of thing, and I think he has
34:05
Speaker 1: so far, right, yeah, you do. I mean it's but
34:08
Speaker 1: I mean the performance in the second half alone in
34:10
Speaker 1: a playoff game, when everybody in in their dog would
34:13
Speaker 1: have just packed it in and said, oh, start licking
34:16
Speaker 1: their wounds, let's get ready for next year, you know,
34:18
Speaker 1: to stay the course. And so everybody in that locker
34:21
Speaker 1: room got to witness what I think everybody had seen
34:23
Speaker 1: all year long. The work ethic, you know, the championship
34:27
Speaker 1: quality level of him, and you know he's he's set
34:31
Speaker 1: himself up and with the coaching change, they've set themselves up.
34:35
Speaker 1: The young talent all around the roster. They continue to
34:38
Speaker 1: make great moves on the roster in terms of what
34:41
Speaker 1: they do putting together that kind of talent, young talent,
34:45
Speaker 1: in fact, hitting it right in the draft. The Jags
34:48
Speaker 1: are gonna gonna be a team, right, They're gonna be
34:51
Speaker 1: a team that that vis for a championship. And that's
34:54
Speaker 1: difficult and such a packed AFC. I mean, on the list,
34:58
Speaker 1: they're probably they're behind Kensley, They're behind Cincinnati, they're behind Buffalo.
35:03
Speaker 1: You could argue they're behind Los Angeles right with the
35:06
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in terms of play, but Trevor is going to
35:08
Speaker 1: take them to a new level, right and those I mean,
35:11
Speaker 1: the AFC over the next decade is going to be
35:14
Speaker 1: just so fun to watch because it's gonna be so
35:16
Speaker 1: darn competitive. Quarterbacks, pass rushers, everybody's got them in the AFC.
35:21
Speaker 1: It feels like Ryan Leaf is with us and well,
35:24
Speaker 1: I mean, the quickest path to the playoffs is to
35:26
Speaker 1: win the division obviously, so in the AFC South right now, Ryan,
35:30
Speaker 1: I mean, the Jaguars are the catbirds. See that feels
35:32
Speaker 1: like the Titans are trimming guys to get down to
35:35
Speaker 1: the salary cap. They did. They cut four guys the
35:37
Speaker 1: other day. And the running back isn't getting anything younger.
35:40
Speaker 1: By the way, Houston has a long way to go.
35:43
Speaker 1: New coach Indy doesn't have a quarterback. We'll see what
35:46
Speaker 1: they do. But I mean, the Jaguars should be in
35:48
Speaker 1: command of this division for a little bit, you hope,
35:52
Speaker 1: So I let's say so, I'd be interested to see
35:55
Speaker 1: what Indy does, whether they try to make a move
35:59
Speaker 1: to draft quarterback or if they try to make some
36:02
Speaker 1: big swing at one of these franchise quarterbacks that may
36:07
Speaker 1: go on the market, Lamar Jackson being one of them.
36:11
Speaker 1: What should they do? What should they do? In your opinion,
36:13
Speaker 1: then Ryan in Indy, I would trade away. I would
36:16
Speaker 1: trade away whatever they needed to to get Lamar Jackson
36:19
Speaker 1: if he's not given the exclusive tag, and and then
36:25
Speaker 1: you know, build around that. I think you add that.
36:27
Speaker 1: I think the defense is good, and I think what
36:28
Speaker 1: they have been looking for is a veteran quarterback. They
36:31
Speaker 1: just have been they needed a young, venturing quarterback. Carson
36:35
Speaker 1: Wentz wasn't the answer, clearly. That's something I would do.
36:38
Speaker 1: I'd look around. I understand that Bryce Young. It's just
36:41
Speaker 1: so hard to know whether or not a first round
36:46
Speaker 1: quarterback is going to make it or not. The right
36:48
Speaker 1: place doesn't matter. You could be the greatest player in
36:50
Speaker 1: the world. You don't go to the right place, Circumstances,
36:53
Speaker 1: all the things that there just isn't a Trevor Lawrence
36:55
Speaker 1: in this year's draft or Joe Burrow. So you know,
36:58
Speaker 1: why are you willing to take what you know and
37:00
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's is an MVP in this league? Or you
37:04
Speaker 1: want to go with a rookie that could become an MVP.
37:06
Speaker 1: I don't think there. If there was a Joe Burrow
37:08
Speaker 1: or Trevor Lawrence, then it's then it's a no brainer.
37:10
Speaker 1: I'm I'm calling Chicago if I'm the Colts and saying, hey,
37:13
Speaker 1: I need to move to number one, and so let's
37:16
Speaker 1: get it done. Ryan Leaf joining us. Let's stay on
37:19
Speaker 1: the quarterback conversation. Aaron Rodgers came out of his darkness
37:23
Speaker 1: retreat today. Have you ever been on one of those?
37:25
Speaker 1: Ryan Yes, solitary confinement? Yeah, that I guess that would qualify. Yeah,
37:32
Speaker 1: I'm sure it would. Um, So where do you think
37:34
Speaker 1: here's gonna What do you think he figured out about
37:37
Speaker 1: himself in his darkness four days or whatever it was.
37:42
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know, egomaniacs with a bit
37:48
Speaker 1: of a self esteem problem, which I think all NFL
37:50
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are. It's pretty tough being in your own head.
37:56
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know what that did for him.
37:59
Speaker 1: I would go crazy, and I rightfully did. An instance
38:02
Speaker 1: like that, the meditation part, being able to be still
38:05
Speaker 1: that there might be something to that. He's always kind
38:07
Speaker 1: of been a guy outside the box. It's helped him,
38:10
Speaker 1: it's made him who he is. Um. He said when
38:12
Speaker 1: he comes out, he's gonna have an answer to what
38:15
Speaker 1: his future holds. So I mean, I suspect we'll hear
38:17
Speaker 1: something here sooner or later. Um. I hope he does
38:22
Speaker 1: it sooner rather than later. I just right off seasons,
38:24
Speaker 1: with these off seasons, with with the you know, just
38:28
Speaker 1: dragging things out is so so self absorbed. I feel
38:31
Speaker 1: like there's no doubt about that. So, I mean, what
38:34
Speaker 1: would be his best landing spot if he decides to
38:37
Speaker 1: play and doesn't want to be a packer and you know,
38:39
Speaker 1: he's thirty nine years old now, So I mean not
38:42
Speaker 1: that you can't play at forty five. We just saw
38:44
Speaker 1: another guy do it. Um, but hey, he's no Spring
38:47
Speaker 1: Chicken anymore either. Well I wouldn't. I wouldn't because the
38:51
Speaker 1: precedent been set by Tom Brady. Lump it into like,
38:55
Speaker 1: oh this is this is possible. Now it's not. It's not.
38:58
Speaker 1: It's not normal, right, not normal to be able to
39:01
Speaker 1: do what he's what tom Brady was able to do.
39:04
Speaker 1: So I thought I saw a bit of a decline
39:06
Speaker 1: this year. I know he was banged up. I thought
39:09
Speaker 1: he had some weapons. I feel like the best chance
39:11
Speaker 1: for him to win a championship is to go back
39:13
Speaker 1: to Green Bay. I just don't think Green Bay wants that.
39:15
Speaker 1: I think they're in the same place they were when
39:18
Speaker 1: when Brett Farr was time was to move on, and
39:20
Speaker 1: now they're going to most likely you know, ship them
39:22
Speaker 1: off somewhere. I suspect that Nathaniel Hackett higher in New
39:27
Speaker 1: York once again had some you know, precedent in terms
39:31
Speaker 1: of trying to get Aaron Rodgers. Let's put it this way.
39:34
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has been to one Super Bowl in his
39:36
Speaker 1: eighteen year career. The Jets haven't been to a Super
39:39
Speaker 1: Bowl and over fifty years, so I mean there would
39:41
Speaker 1: be there would need to be a lot of shifting change.
39:43
Speaker 1: And also you're going to the AFC. Like, if he
39:45
Speaker 1: stays in the NFC has a much better chance to
39:47
Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl, I feel than he does
39:49
Speaker 1: if he goes to play somewhere in the AFC. Yeah,
39:51
Speaker 1: Like we just talked about all those quarterbacks. Everybody's lined up,
39:53
Speaker 1: they've got pass rushers and everything's kind of against you.
39:56
Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf with us last thoughts here combined next week
40:00
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis will be up there for Jaguars dot Com
40:03
Speaker 1: and Jaguars Radio from my Monday, will be on the
40:06
Speaker 1: air Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday in the Convention Center. What's your
40:10
Speaker 1: your biggest memory of your combine experience Back in nineteen
40:14
Speaker 1: ninety eight, Ryan Um that we that Peyton and I
40:19
Speaker 1: ran it. I mean we did whatever we wanted. We
40:21
Speaker 1: were gonna be the first or second pick in the draft.
40:23
Speaker 1: We was done, so we didn't work out, we didn't
40:26
Speaker 1: do anything. You know, we went to the medical things.
40:28
Speaker 1: I even skipped a medical thing for the Colts or
40:31
Speaker 1: an interview with the Colts coach because I had a
40:33
Speaker 1: medical thing. Medical thing was the only thing that was important.
40:35
Speaker 1: People need to see. We were we were okay. As
40:38
Speaker 1: long as we got a good bill of health, we
40:40
Speaker 1: were gonna be the first or second pick. So it's
40:41
Speaker 1: much different now. Even if you're at the top, you
40:43
Speaker 1: go and you work out and you you know, you
40:45
Speaker 1: you compete. In Peyton and I pretty much during that spam,
40:48
Speaker 1: I remember talking to one another going, yeah, I'm you know,
40:50
Speaker 1: I'm I'll have my workout in April for the scouts.
40:54
Speaker 1: But you know, and there wasn't big interviews, like the
40:57
Speaker 1: only two teams I even talked to was San Diego
41:00
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis and then I didn't end up making the
41:03
Speaker 1: Indianapolis meeting because of a medical thing. So it's not
41:06
Speaker 1: like it is now where you go and visit with
41:08
Speaker 1: almost every team and there's conversations and there's questions and
41:11
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and may have gone a long way
41:13
Speaker 1: to seeing maybe if I was the head case that
41:16
Speaker 1: I that I ultimately became my first couple of years,
41:19
Speaker 1: that might have gone a long way for you know,
41:21
Speaker 1: some of the some of the scouts during that process.
41:23
Speaker 1: But yeah, the most I remember is, you know, showing
41:26
Speaker 1: up after kind of being on the banquet circuit after
41:29
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl picking up awards and hanging with boys,
41:32
Speaker 1: after turning pro and drinking a bunch, and showing up
41:35
Speaker 1: at just completely you know, biggest job interview in my life,
41:37
Speaker 1: and I show up at two hundred and sixty eight pounds.
41:40
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I carried it okay, but no, it
41:43
Speaker 1: was it was not good weight, and so that should
41:45
Speaker 1: have been probably your your first red flag that this
41:48
Speaker 1: dude isn't this dude isn't properly ready for what's ahead
41:52
Speaker 1: of him. So, uh, you know, that's what I remember
41:55
Speaker 1: from the combine. Just kind of a meat market, but
41:57
Speaker 1: pretty much telling everybody to go, you know, kick rocks
42:00
Speaker 1: because I'm going to be the first or second pick anyway.
42:02
Speaker 1: Is it overblown? We do? We over I mean it's
42:05
Speaker 1: the NFL. It happens, right, everything's got to be a
42:07
Speaker 1: big extravaganza now in the off season. That's just the
42:10
Speaker 1: way things are built or have been building in the
42:13
Speaker 1: in the league, and this is one of those. I
42:14
Speaker 1: mean there's like a twelve hundred credential media at this thing, right.
42:19
Speaker 1: I think it's important for a couple of reasons. I
42:21
Speaker 1: think for the medical aspect of things, in particular with
42:26
Speaker 1: COVID over the last four years and understanding some of
42:32
Speaker 1: the heart implications and some things they may have not
42:34
Speaker 1: been tested for and stuff like that. So I think
42:36
Speaker 1: that's important. The medical side of things, I think the questioning.
42:40
Speaker 1: I think the stringent nature of the itinerary and the
42:43
Speaker 1: schedule to see how you conduct yourself in as you know,
42:48
Speaker 1: in a structured environment. I think that's usual. The on
42:50
Speaker 1: the field stuff, I like the testing aspect of things.
42:55
Speaker 1: I like the athletic testing type of stuff. I don't know,
43:00
Speaker 1: the throwing, the running, receivers running, that's not not so
43:04
Speaker 1: so that's just you know, we could all do that.
43:07
Speaker 1: I could go out in my underwear right now and
43:09
Speaker 1: throw the ball sixty five yards down the field. Right.
43:11
Speaker 1: It's just how just how it works, you know. So
43:15
Speaker 1: all the other stuff that comes with it, I think
43:16
Speaker 1: is important. The fact that the NFL has turned it
43:18
Speaker 1: into a moneymaker is just another example of the NFL,
43:22
Speaker 1: right kind of money making propaganda machine is what they are,
43:25
Speaker 1: you know, and they continue to do it. And to
43:28
Speaker 1: no surprise, you know, to no surprise to me. We'll
43:32
Speaker 1: be there next week. Ryan, good to see you, Thanks
43:35
Speaker 1: for the time telling Anna m Aguiver high and we'll
43:37
Speaker 1: talk to you again down the line, man, you bet. JP.
43:40
Speaker 1: Good to see you, thanks, brother Ryan Leaf joining us,
43:43
Speaker 1: And yeah, what a conversation there with a guy from
43:46
Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety eight NFL draft. He's really built things
43:50
Speaker 1: back well. He's all over media, NFL Network, ESPN, College Football, Serious,
43:55
Speaker 1: XMNFL Radio, Westwood won games. I mean, the guy is
43:59
Speaker 1: all over the place and really has a unique insight
44:04
Speaker 1: as to the process. He went through it it didn't
44:06
Speaker 1: go so well, and he's built things back, obviously. And
44:11
Speaker 1: good to hear from Ryan today. Plenty to come when
44:13
Speaker 1: we come back, we'll wrap things up. Monster Jam coming
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Speaker 1: Jaguar's Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. There's some
44:45
Speaker 1: veteran players I've never been to the postseason. You know,
44:47
Speaker 1: There's even some second third year guys I have have never
44:50
Speaker 1: been to the postseason. So how they handle these next
44:54
Speaker 1: couple of months is critical to their performance, their success.
45:00
Speaker 1: And then when we start the offseason program, you know,
45:02
Speaker 1: mid April again, you know just where they are, you know,
45:05
Speaker 1: mentally with you know, starting another season. But it's truly
45:10
Speaker 1: a reset, you know, at this point. Doug Peterson the
45:14
Speaker 1: two days after the end of the playoff run, welcome back.
45:17
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Our JP Shadrick No Jeff Laghman this
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Speaker 1: week or next. He'll be with us in a couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks. We've had a few weeks away for a hiatus,
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45:30
Speaker 1: We'll be at the Combine next week in Indianapolis, John Ozan, Now,
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45:46
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Speaker 1: Well that's on the other end of Tia Bank Field
46:17
Speaker 1: on the north west side. I suppose that is. It's
46:21
Speaker 1: the Miller Electric Center. If you're watching us on Jaguars
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Speaker 1: dot Com and Jaguars Social Media, a live look outside.
46:26
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful sun splash day on the first coast
46:29
Speaker 1: temperature in the eighties. I think partly cloudy sky, and
46:34
Speaker 1: there you have it. It is on track to open
46:36
Speaker 1: this summer and the football team will move in there
46:39
Speaker 1: ahead of training camp and be ready to roll. The
46:43
Speaker 1: fields are being leveled out. It looks like the building
46:47
Speaker 1: itself has glass on the outside now, so all the
46:49
Speaker 1: inside stuff starting to happen. I haven't had a chance
46:52
Speaker 1: to walk through it yet, been looking forward to whenever
46:55
Speaker 1: that first tour or whatever happens. They're starting to pour
46:57
Speaker 1: concrete outside the walkways into the stadium part and training
47:02
Speaker 1: camp as far as we know, this season will be
47:04
Speaker 1: held right there outside Tiaa Bank Field for the first
47:08
Speaker 1: time in a little while. And you know, that's part
47:11
Speaker 1: of a lot going on around the stadium these days.
47:15
Speaker 1: The four Seasons site, the shipyards has dirt moving there.
47:19
Speaker 1: No word yet on maybe there might be an official
47:22
Speaker 1: groundbreaking at some point, but there's nothing on the calendar
47:25
Speaker 1: as of yet. But they are moving some things around,
47:27
Speaker 1: at least starting the process there. There's a fence up
47:30
Speaker 1: and there's dirt being moved, so that's a good step
47:33
Speaker 1: in the right direction. Of course, the Stadium of the
47:36
Speaker 1: Future talk is beginning, but nothing official on that front either,
47:40
Speaker 1: So there's a lot to come in the years for
47:43
Speaker 1: the Jaguars around the stadium. Let's take a quick look
47:45
Speaker 1: around the NFL. We mentioned it briefly with Ryan Leaf,
47:49
Speaker 1: but in the AFC South this week, the Tennessee Titans
47:52
Speaker 1: whacked four veterans to get below the salary cap left
47:55
Speaker 1: tackle Taylor Lawan, wide receiver Robert Woods, kicker Randy Bullock,
47:59
Speaker 1: and linebackers at Cunningham. They cleared nearly thirty eight million
48:02
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space and forty two million dollars in
48:05
Speaker 1: cash off their books for next season. Woods was there
48:08
Speaker 1: one year after he was traded from the Rams. Lawan
48:11
Speaker 1: was a fourteen first round pick, but he had knee
48:13
Speaker 1: injuries the last two years and played only seven games
48:16
Speaker 1: over that span. Eric Bienemy named the assistant head coach
48:20
Speaker 1: and OC of the Washington Commanders. The press conference was today.
48:24
Speaker 1: He was the chiefs OC from eighteen to twenty two
48:27
Speaker 1: and the running backs coach there in from twenty thirteen
48:30
Speaker 1: to seventeen. He's had a number of head coaching interviews
48:34
Speaker 1: that have not gone his way, and he makes the
48:38
Speaker 1: move over to Washington to maybe a change could change
48:41
Speaker 1: his fortunes in the future. He said, he's focused only
48:44
Speaker 1: on this job at this moment. We mentioned it also
48:46
Speaker 1: with Brian Aaron Rodgers has emerged from his cave in Oregon,
48:49
Speaker 1: ending his darkness for retreat, a three hundred square foot
48:52
Speaker 1: room and a partially underground structure with a queen bed,
48:56
Speaker 1: bathroom and meditation map. He's not really roughing and it's
48:59
Speaker 1: full powered. The lights can be turned on from inside
49:02
Speaker 1: the room, so it's really a hotel underground. Well. He
49:06
Speaker 1: said he had scheduled the four days and nights in
49:08
Speaker 1: that isolation and looking for a better sense of where
49:12
Speaker 1: he is in his life. He's thirty nine years old.
49:14
Speaker 1: He's under contract for fifty nine point four million with
49:18
Speaker 1: the Packers this season. Coming up, Vants Joseph, former Broncos
49:22
Speaker 1: head coach, has been named the Broncos defensive coordinator, going
49:25
Speaker 1: back to Denver to work under Sean Payton. He'll do
49:29
Speaker 1: it for our program today thanks to all our guests
49:31
Speaker 1: and Fred Taylor. Prior to the Jaguars running back joining
49:34
Speaker 1: us at the top of the show. John Ozer Jaguars
49:36
Speaker 1: dot Com senior writer, former second overall pick in nineteen
49:40
Speaker 1: ninety eight and a media mogul these days. Ryan Leaf
49:43
Speaker 1: joining us as well. Our thanks to Brent Reebert, David Choe,
49:46
Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato. I'm JP Shadwick. We will catch you next
49:50
Speaker 1: time in Indie next week on Jaguars Happy Hour n