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The Phantom of the Opera · The Art of Costume Podcast

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But after this performance Christine is like the fuck is
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going on in my life and she has Rowell really what she's
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thinking, she's like the fuck is going on.
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It's true though. That's what I was thinking too.
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I like it. What is this day?
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That she's having hello and welcome to the art accosting
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podcast. I'm Elizabeth Joy glass and I'm
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the Angel of Music Spencer Williams defense.
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I don't think Creeper Creeper. I thought Angela music was good.
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Angel music is a Creeper, I didn't realize that.
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So I watched it this week. Okay.
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Clearly I'm new to this universe.
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How was your week Spencer? It was good last night I went
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and saw Moulin Rouge the Pantages.
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Yeah, so good, I had so much fun.
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The costumes were incredible. The sets I was blown away by the
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sets. I've just like still I have a
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hard time Time processing. What's happening on stage?
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Like at these big Productions where I Lurie saw like a
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windmill and stars and I saw that in your your Instagram.
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Yeah. Sorry I was like is that old
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windmills on the stage like the whole time, my mom's like, hey,
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you're gonna love this song and I was like, how the hell they
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get the windmill up there. You not seen the movie?
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Oh yes I have. Okay, it's just been a long time
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though but also was fun was we went with my mom's.
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And they brought along my now. Good best friend, Paige.
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She listens to the podcast. So, shout out to page.
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Hi, Peyton, that's fun. It's so much fun.
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It's so weird meeting people in person.
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I'll listen to the podcast. It's like a weird experience but
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we appreciate it obviously. Love that we just talked about
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the podcast little bit so that was super cool.
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All got really into the theater mood this week.
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Week. Good.
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Good. I'm glad it was a great start
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for our movie this week. Spencer, what did we watch this
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week? We, I finally saw For the First
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Time, The Phantom of the Opera and this movie was insane,
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right? Right.
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I forgot just how Wild this movie was.
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Yeah. And also for the first time
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fully Understood just how big of a creeper, the Phantom is?
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Oh, yeah, he's horrible. I the whole time.
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I just kept thinking, she been not end up with this guy.
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At the end of this movie, are gonna be so mad and text
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Elizabeth, because he's supposed to be like, oh, you're so sorry
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for him. And I'm like, yeah, that she
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grew up in a shitty time. He had a like, nobody should
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have to live like that but he's straight up.
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Murdered a man and then try to coerce her into being with him.
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Yeah, I would almost feel bad for him if He didn't murder so
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many people up until they didn't murder.
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Extort the people who owned the who own to the Opera, he's like,
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oh, why aren't you paying me does it?
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And it's like to they don't even know who you are.
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Just this crazy guy who lives in your basement.
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You like shut up and it's like you don't even go here but yeah
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I've never seen a phantom production or seen the movie so
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I've been wanting to do it for years its just never worked out.
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I knew the music already. Like I already know the
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soundtracks, I was ready to go. Yeah, so as finally, I'm sure
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most people be like Spencer, don't watch the movie.
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First. Go, see a play.
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It didn't work out that way. So here we are.
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Yeah, I've only seen the movie. I've never seen the Stage
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production. Oh well.
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You and I should go. That would be fun.
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We should the more reason for you to come visit me as fam with
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the Opera on stage and we can go to New York which is like Like
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oh yeah, that exists not far away from me together.
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Spencer, I don't know how the map works.
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All right, let me give you a little summary here from his
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Hideout. Beneath a 19th Century.
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Paris, Opera House, the Phantom wearing a mask hides.
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His ugly face to strong-arm management and to give him his
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Starlet, the key role But instead, Christine falls for the
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Arts, benefactor Raul terrified at the notion of her absence to
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Phantom. Annex a plan to keep Christine
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by his side while role tries to foil this game and that is the
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Phantom of the Opera. That's pretty much it.
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Folks. If you haven't seen it, not good
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luck trying to watch it. You'll probably have to run it
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off Amazon. Yeah, that's what I did.
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I just steal my brother's PS4 to play my Blu-ray DVD of it
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because I used pay for it. Well, I rented it.
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So family needs a bra, my Amazon account.
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Let me know, good to know, good to know.
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Let's go behind the Wardrobe, though.
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We have director Joel Schumacher who apparently started his
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career as a costume designer. I found out while doing the
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research for this and I confirmed it with IMDb.
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He did a couple films, nothing. I Recognized right?
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But he did. He was a costume designer for a
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hot second. Remember Elizabeth from our
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house and episode. Joel actually worked of Houston
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and like Andy Warhol. So that's why the name sounds
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familiar, right? Well, I knew him as a director
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right back. He was like, she's had a, he's
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had a crazy life. He's had a yeah, he's had a
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crazy life. Also, we have costume designer
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for Phantom of the The Opera's Alexandra burn, she's back back
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back again. She is back.
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You all know her from Hamlet. 1996 for which she got an Oscar
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nomination, Elizabeth, Oscar nomination, the Elizabeth the
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Golden Age and Oscar win, Finding Neverland, I'm asking
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nomination Thor, the Avengers and The Avengers Age of Ultron,
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Doctor Strange murder on the Orient.
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An Express Mary Queen of Scots, Oscar nomination, Emma, Oscar
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nomination, and an incredible episode Down by the Arctic ice
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in blogcast that you can listen to later.
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And also I want. No, no, that's it, that's it.
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That's you do Guardians of the Galaxy 2.
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Mmm. It's a good question.
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I don't know. Skipper what she did do gar?
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Oh, she did do Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Yes, that was the other episode. We had her right?
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We had with her as a costume designer.
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Guardians of the Galaxy. I knew I was forgetting
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something. Gosh.
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All right. Uh, but Alexandra, she did an
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incredible job on fan of the Opera.
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So I was since I had my Blu-ray DVD, I was watching the extras.
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Okay. And apparently, I guess I
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couldn't confirm this, but according to the extras, this
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was the most expensive independent film made.
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At the time, I believe it. I assumed this was Like a big
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like studio production, but no, it was, it was Andrew Lloyd.
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Webber had been talking to Joel Schumacher for years and years
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and years about making a Phantom of the Opera movie, apparently,
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originally, they wanted to use like the the First cast and then
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got just didn't work out. And then finally 2004, we get
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the Phantom of the Opera and Alexandra had her work.
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Cut out for her. She had to make 300 original
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costumes for the principal characters.
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And then had another 2,000 more from stock for the theater.
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Patrons, masquerade, performers. The three operas performed
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within the movie and two ballets.
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Yeah, I was before you and I, you and talked.
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I was exhausted watching this movie as I who we have quite the
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Soda. Yeah, you look at this and like
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hoof only they've known about Kovac so much.
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There is so much going on and if you have the ability to watch
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the extras I highly recommend you do so because it's really
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interesting but unfortunately because this is the early 2000s.
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There's not a lot of information on it, I had always assumed this
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was an Oscar nominee or winner. It It was not right.
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I actually looked that up today. I was like this has to be Oscar
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winner, not even a nominee. Know, I wondered why?
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And I'm like now I have to watch Finding Neverland because it
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came out. It's she designed it as well and
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it came out the same year and that was nominated.
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But not this. I'm like, how is Finding
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Neverland better. Yeah.
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In some people's opinion that not I'm sure it's incredible.
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It's Alexandra burn. She was nominated for an Oscar
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so much Goodbye. Mike, how was it better than
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this? Yeah, I noticed series of
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fortunate events. The the first one of Jim Carrey
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was on that list to, by Colleen Atwood.
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Let's fight away. Costumes are incredible.
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But I was like, I don't know. This fan of the Opera movie.
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There was the lot of costumes. Yeah, it was a lot of have a lot
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of work, a lot of coordination, a lot of coordination.
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She really pulled it off. So let's just say, if we did a
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patreon episode on 2004, this would have been on our snubs
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list. Yeah.
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Yeah yeah would have been but Spencer I think we need to take
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a little a little break you break.
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And then are you ready to creep into the Phantom of the Opera?
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I'm very excited. I've been creeping all day
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waiting for this moment. Okay, good.
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All right. Elizabeth.
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I ready to head to the opera house and see some costumes.
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Absolutely, absolutely. And it just starts off.
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It starts off. We have mini driver as Carlotta.
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Oh my gosh. Yeah, I was in Certainly
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captivated obsessed. I was like, is this my one
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costume to rule them all over five minutes in?
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I don't know, but like instantly.
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I was like, wow. Look at all these costumes this
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it is just wild and Theatrical and she has like, I don't know
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if she's supposed because like the guy behind her looks Roman.
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I don't know if she's supposed to be like I guess Like An
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Egyptian queen. I don't know what Opera they're
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practicing it. What it is Hannibal.
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I believe. Eve.
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Oh okay, doesn't really mean anything to me, but me either,
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if it does to you, I hope that's correct.
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But it is just bright, colors, and gold, and feathers, and
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everything everywhere. Yeah, it's so complex.
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I mean, she has enough costumes here to fill out like a 300
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movie. Yeah.
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With all the armor and helmets. It's a really impressive right
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off the bat and Minnie Driver was On this, she was easily my
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favorite character like a mock at about her and then I see her
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in a movie. And I'm like, wolf, girl, yes.
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Miles ahead of the other characters for me in this
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iteration and there's not enough of her in it.
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Yes, right. I was all mad.
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Every time she wasn't the lead. I was like now.
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Christine's cool. But yeah, carlotta's cooler,
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right? We just been off of Just
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Carlotta Carlotta of the Opera Carlotta of the Opera the year.
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Years of her, becoming a prima donna.
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Yeah. But we're introduced to a lot of
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characters very quickly. We have any rozum as Christine
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and Jennifer Ellison as Meg, her bestie and they're wearing these
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slave girl costumes, right? I was like okay those are
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interesting, beautiful, but was like are we trying to do a slave
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girl? Inspire thing it was giving me
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like Princess Leia actually is They kept thinking yes like
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almost two colors and that red a draping off of her is almost
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like Princess Leia to a tee. Absolutely.
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Especially just like the top. Yeah.
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Lit. Like the bottom and we have
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Simon callow as Andre and Karen Hines as Furman.
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Who they're immediately. Just objectifying all the young
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ladies because they are the new yeah, owners of the theater and
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they Look very nice. Yeah, this production how nice
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this production needs to be shut down everyone.
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Here's a creeper, right? We have slavery on stage.
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A guy living in the basement. We have some misogynist onstage,
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like, what's happening in this opera house every problem was
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16? Okay, I did not know Emmy Rossum
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was in this. She I saw her and I was like,
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holy shit. Look at her Shake 16, believe
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it. She looks like a Maybe.
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But then also it made me wonder, like, how old is her net.
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How old is she? Now, because unlike Angeline,
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she still looks this thing. I think she's like, early 30s.
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That's crazy, right? She did really awesome in this
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film. Yeah, she does incredible.
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She was apparently saying Opera from like the age of eight.
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So like she was kind of made for this role for, then it's free
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because both of her male interests are like double her
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age. I was like, yeah, not a fan
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that's not a fan. Man, that would not have flown
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today. You know that like throw-up
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emoji? That was like, who me?
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Like the first half of this movie?
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Yeah. But anyway, getting back to
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Andre and Furman, I love just how like they were, like yes.
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We are going to dress as rich as possible.
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Our first day. Yeah, there I loved it.
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They were giving you like all the Furs bowties, Big Top Hats.
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They were just rich and they want.
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Want to know it very luxurious are like we are ready.
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Yeah. They're ready to manage this
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nightmare very quickly. We get to yet another musical
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number think of me or Christine. This is the dress.
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I think everybody knows from this film, this beautiful white
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and like gold star pattern down that she is just seeing her
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little heart out in No, it was so beautiful.
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She looked like an angel. Just every Nova was right?
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The Fabrics the like embroidery on it stood out just right in
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the lighting the hairpins match perfectly.
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Yeah. It was just beautiful.
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It was like art, you know, which probably goes to like Joel
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Schumacher to as a director to just whole thing.
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Just felt like an art piece. Absolutely.
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And a lot of there's a very famous portrait of them and pris
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Elisabeth of Austria Area that a lot of people think it was the
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inspiration for this, look, I couldn't find it confirmed, but
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it's like, the dress is very similar.
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The hair is almost exactly the same.
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So, a lot of people think, like, that's where the inspiration for
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this dress came from. I mean, it looks exactly the
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same to me. So, I don't know what to say.
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But yeah, you're like, yeah, yeah, it works for me.
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Yeah, just so great. I could have watched Emmy just
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saying all day. Long right?
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Cut out all the like creepy stuff that's happening.
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You just have her sing. Hmm.
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Yeah. Coker concert.
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Because we have the creeper played by Gerard.
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Butler answer. But we have Gerard Butler plays
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The Phantom very handsome. Yeah, I guess I won.
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His face is covered. I guess something about his
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hair? I don't know.
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Like the way is makeup was done or something.
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It was like a little For me. But I recognized this costume
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though, it's just like such an iconic look actually like the
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two of them together when they're in a cave for the first
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time without ever seeing found a lot of off, bruh.
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I was like already 100% familiar with the scene, so it's clearly
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such iconic costume with the white mask.
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You know, that's such a look, I've known that since I was a
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kid, you know, like living in LA and seeing fan of the Opera
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posters all over town. Oh yeah, it's definitely her her
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undergarments going down to the cave.
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Look is super iconic and Alexandra, said about this look
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to variety that as Christine goes down into the lair.
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Joe wanted her look to become more magical and mysterious
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which meant more shine to the fabric more sheer and exotic,
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which like it does get like more like dreamlike and Fantastical
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like the longer she's down there.
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Yeah. And I love It's like the layers
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like full of water to because he's like the clothing kind of
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like swim like kind of trail behind her to which adds like
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more like dragging to. It also works that entire all
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the layer scenes are really cool.
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Yeah, I really want to visit this opera house because
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apparently there is actually a lake underneath it.
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Oh yeah, this is a real opera house.
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I did not know that. Yeah, well that sounds like fun.
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I know I have some water. I want to, I really want to read
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the book Because I had read most of it in like high school and
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then I don't remember why I didn't finish it, but the book
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is even more wild than the musical.
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I guess that makes sense. I did not know up until ten
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seconds ago that there was a book.
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So yeah, this is taking a lot of information right now.
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The musical is based on the book, that makes sense.
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I should have known What I was not expecting, was Carlotta in
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this pink. Look, I was screaming in my
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bedroom. I was like, yes, is this is like
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the hot pink version of Cruella de Vil?
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It's perfect. Yes, it is.
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And she comes in because she's just so pissed that like they
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went on with this charity event without her and they're just,
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they're like, yeah, Christina is great.
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But also like she's our main attraction right now.
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Like we can't lose her. And she just has like bubblegum
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pink and like these, like Rich purple's, and just like the pink
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fur is, what really gets me? Oh yeah, that's what drew me.
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And I was like, yes, I love this.
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Look, there's like so much detail on it to, there's like
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bows and the bottom of it. Lots of like, lots of like
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ruffle detail. Lots of feathers.
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Yeah, there's Everett she's wearing everything.
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She's literally wearing every textile in.
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Closet and it just, it just works though.
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You know, I was not expecting this from this film.
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I was thinking it's going to be like, kind of like a dry period
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film. That know.
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There's some like no rely fashion moments.
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Yeah, I mean the whole films like super wild, but like the
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costumes. Excellent.
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Yeah, it's nice. And then we immediately have the
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pageboy and Carlotta. I loved Christine.
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Has the pageboy because she just looks so silly in the blue,
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trousers, and the striped vest I actually didn't recognize at
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first, when I was watching it, I was like, oh my gosh, that's
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Christine. Yeah, why does he look like
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that? And then Carlotta, looks like
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she's ready to roll up to one of Marie Antoinette's parties,
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right? This is what I thought.
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The Marie Antoinette film was going to look like it was this
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look right here. Here that's like huge hot pink
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with the hair towering. That could like touch the
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ceiling. It is flawless.
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I just cannot believe that this film was not nominated for an
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Oscar and costume design. You know what?
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What's 2004 thinking? I don't know, it's a great
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question. The sounds like we need to do an
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investigation. I'm ready.
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But I really, I really love this look of carlotta's because it's
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like I feel like Alexander brand just kept adding things to it.
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Yeah. Like she didn't stop.
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But she didn't stop until they filmed the scene even when they
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were on set, she like ran up and hot glued something and it ran
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back to the backstage. Absolutely.
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But after this performance Christine is like the fuck is
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going on in my life and she has Rowell.
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That's really what she's thinking, she's like the fuck is
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going on. It's true though that's I was
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thinking to, I like it. What is this day that she's
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having? Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
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I love Christine and that like, white look with the red cape,
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it's like the red is so striking against like, the white snow,
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the white snow. And against, we have Daddy,
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Patrick Wilson as Raoul our favorite Ghost Hunter Spencer.
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I love Patrick Wilson. And I'm a writer die, for man
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circles. So I was so stoked on this bomb
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in this eye. At first, I was having a hard
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time with the hair but by the end of it I was like I love him
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in this hair right thing about it.
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You get used to it. You get used to it.
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Yeah, I remember seeing this as a kid and also being like what's
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with the hair, but it's so real. And they were talking about him
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being like a Suave romantic hero, which is like, yeah,
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that's what he is. Giving like like Fabio like
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Romantic novel Vibes. And his costume is just like so
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like, you know, Prince like, I don't know, it's just very put
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together where he's like, you know, he's the knight in
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shining, shining armor all the time.
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Yeah. It's always proper.
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It's always put together. Also, he was apparently was a
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like, he came from a theater backgrounds.
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Yeah, I kind of read that a little bit, which I was like,
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that's interesting. But I do love this.
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Look, it's another one of those iconic.
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Especially with just the red cape.
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Yeah with like the red rose against the all white it's just
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like so striking it kind of reminds me of like yeah blood I
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don't know like she's having a rough time.
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The Phantom just hung someone downstairs with no one really
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seems to care. He's creeping behind a statue
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creeping on their conversation and then he's mad about how
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their conversation goes. Even though he just hung
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somebody and still, no one is bringing that up.
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I would be in the theater. Hello, are we going to address
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the hung guy? I guess I should say like that.
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Are we gonna address the murder than, just a curse on stage
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please. Anyways, about wild night and
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they're like, we gotta take a break, even the Phantom is like,
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I gotta take a break and plan my scheme my schemes.
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Even the Phantom was like, I need to go lay down.
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Let's take a break with them, everyone.
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Spencer Elizabeth. It's our favorite favorite
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activity. Again we got a ball.
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We got a masked ball. Might be say.
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This is probably one of the most impressive ones we've seen on
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this podcast, like hands down. I So this was so does this
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happen with for you with like older movies now where you get
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nervous about the fact there are so many people in a scene like
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ever since covid is definitely something that was goes through
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my head. Yeah, this was one of those.
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Since the opening scene in this scene gave me like, post covid.
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Like, wait, why are there so many people Vibes?
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But it's gorgeous. Its complex, Alexander talks
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about this a tiny bit. Bit in the special features
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where she says, you know, we work we kind like color coded,
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it, black, white gold, and silver.
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And when you see like, what the main characters are wearing, it
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really lets them pop, but it's like the costumes compliment the
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opera house, they compliment, you know, all the dancers
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complement each other. It's just like stunningly
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coordinated. Yeah.
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So like Grand gilded and Looking at every single character all of
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their costumes are just so unique.
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You know this so much work went into this scene.
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I was having such a good time like looking at everyone's
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headpieces, their mask just like the details on the altar like
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tops. It was so impressive.
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Yes. I also love like the camera
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work. It really like Zooms in on some
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of these dancers and you get really good.
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Looks at their costumes. Yeah, I mean we could do like an
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entire podcasts on this ball. Seen honestly.
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Yeah yeah, we could and but I agree if you though, I loved how
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like it gave the main characters, like their chance to
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pop to amongst this crowd. Yeah, cuz we have the two
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managers. One has like a chicken head and
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is an all black. So he really pops with like the
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red chicken head and and Andre has these like huge cooled Ram's
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Horn, right? I actually prefer the chicken
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head. Actually if we're being accurate
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and pretty sure that's a rooster.
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No probably. Okay, you're right Spencer.
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Okay, I think I would pick the rooster head over the the horns
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because it's giving me real like Chronicles of Narnia Vibes.
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But I do love those headpieces. Their stunning and their
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girlfriends are almost like dress up like their poodles to
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if they're here. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. Absolutely.
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And then I love Carlotta and her.
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I guess that's how I think that's her husband.
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Who's the other singer, right? She did seem upset when he, you
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know, she seems like devastated. He's always like behind like two
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steps behind her. Yeah.
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So I feel like that's her husband.
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But they look great together. They do and she looks great.
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I love like the black runaway stand.
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It's like the look of her dress. It's kind of looking like the
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Marilyn Monroe, like, happy birthday dress.
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Yeah. The stones kind of like ombre on
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her side. The silhouette of it.
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Yeah, gives her like such a cool shape.
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I love that dress, love it. But then we also have our newly
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engaged, couple Rowell and Christine.
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Just looking fabulous, Alexandra, set variety of out.
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This Christine's masquerade gown, she said I wanted it to be
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light and buoyant and it had to have moved.
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Movement and it was Christine moves in that dress.
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Yeah, she does see moves. It's so beautiful to.
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This is like Alexandra. Burn like classic to.
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Yes, because she's still doing stuff like this today.
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With, like, Emma, we just watched just a colors, the
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flowers, the silhouette. This is just like her specialty
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right here. The little details.
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Like this dress was is gorgeous without that bustling and fat
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like flower detail in the back. Yeah, it's like that's one of
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those things like oh she could have gone away without doing
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that but then we wouldn't have liked this beautiful shot of
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them from the side, showing the bustled silhouette, you know, it
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just you never would have missed it but then you do miss this
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like just beautiful craftsmanship and Raul.
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I love his outfit but I can't stop thinking that looks like a
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Michael Jackson. Look, oh my gosh, true.
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Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah.
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Serving. Just don't say such a prince
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Vibes but like fairytale friends, right?
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Yeah. Not Prince the musician.
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But up now, a fairytale Prince. Yeah.
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And I'm he's entire Vibe throughout this entire thing.
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Yeah, honestly. And then we got the Phantom.
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He's back to creep. Wearing all red and Celine.
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I was like, oh, here's this guy again, or in tight pants, and
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his boots all And a skull mask. This is a super super simplified
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version of, what is in the Stage production?
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Oh wow. That's what it looks like in a
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Stage production. Hmm.
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Oh yeah. Oh, that would have definitely
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stood out. Yeah, I don't know.
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I mean, I'm, I've never seen the Stage production, so I don't
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feel like I could really speak to it.
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But like, I feel like for this film, what he wore made sense,
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perfect, it's perfect, because, I mean us, you know, for a stay
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Each production, it's got a everybody's got to be able to
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see it. So it makes sense that it's like
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that Wild on stage and then this is just like The Logical
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simplification of it. Yeah, it's pretty cool.
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The pants are a little tight for me but it wasn't thousands.
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That's what everybody's heard were really tight pants, but
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that's Opera than take place in the 2000s.
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That's true, that's true. It's a, it's a pretty cool.
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Look at me. Of the talk about red costumes
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on this podcast, remember had a red one on our mail.
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Like, yeah, so that's pretty cool.
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And he was signaling some danger.
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So yeah, appropriate for Christine.
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Let's all just take a moment to remember she is 16.
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Yeah. And Christine can't catch a
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break. She's like I'm gonna go see my
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dad at his grave and a phantom was like great this is a good
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time to play Lord Voldemort in a cemetery with Christine All
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right, leave her alone right? Christine is wearing a beautiful
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black dress in the cemetery if some Red Like Roses with her
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also and it just contrast is so well against the cemetery Sasha
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it's like her morning. Good morning look and I really
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love the because it's like a cape and then also like a scarf
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with a little that she like puts up over her head a little bit
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and it just gives her such like a forlorn.
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Silhouette. Yeah.
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Like she is almost a ghost herself.
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Trying to figure this out. Yeah, she looks so good.
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And her skin is just like so pale like it's works.
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If all of her costumes. It's really cool.
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It's so cool. Not so cool.
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Is the Opera the Phantom creates.
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Yeah. No offense to the Phantom but
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honestly wasn't a big fan of his screenplay.
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He had going on here was yeah it's kind of creepy creepers got
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The creep, I guess. Yeah I guess so.
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So Emmys look, Christine it was. I liked it it was kind of giving
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like a little bit of like bright a Dracula a little bit but like
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really muted down. Yeah, but I do love how like
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they've carried like this color palette with Christine from the
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beginning to the end, like this always like kind of like Browns
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Golds and whites but then always like a contrast of red Which is
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in her hair at this point. Absolutely.
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This is like a very controlled silhouette as well and it's like
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oh this is one. He like is really trying to like
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take advantage of her. Take like exactly what he wants
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from her and like right now she's like, oh, I guess this is
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what I'm gonna do and she gets taken back down into his lair to
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wear that beautiful. Yet creepy wedding gown Now, I'm
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he has for her as far as wedding gowns go.
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That's a nice one. It's pretty good.
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Oh yeah. Unfortunate that she's in a
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creepy man's basement dungeon full of water and her boyfriend
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currently being tied up to a gate, but I think the fan of has
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good taste, like, I'm not going to deny him that wardrobe.
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Yes, good taste in wardrobe but Yeah.
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It's so like I love that they put her in the wedding out of
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the end because it makes her look so innocent.
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And it's like, oh you shouldn't have to do this.
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You shouldn't have to do this. And I love how it's just like
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such a stark white to because it really gives Alexander like to
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chance to like really break down a costume as it like a moves
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through like disaster dirty water and it's just like slowly
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is like just getting ruined as they struggle through these
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dirty dungeon Ins. Yeah, very cool, very cool.
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But that brings us to the end of The Phantom of the Opera
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Spencer, how do you feel about it after our conversation
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relieved? I mean I still really love this
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movie is really good. Yeah, me too me too.
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But after talking I'm like this movie feels kind of gross now
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but the costumes which is so good like I can't handle good
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talking about it. You know.
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And I know Emmy Rossum. I mean even Gerard Butler who
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plays The Phantom. Like he does really good in it.
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Everyone in his films, really good.
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It's not them. It's the actual storyline.
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That's kind of weird. Actual story line is very, very
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strange and creepy, but yeah, I love it, too.
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It's like, it's like conic and I was looking up like the box
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office information and it looks like it didn't do terribly.
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Well, I think internationally it made over 100 million.
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I think I believe it. Cost 70 million to make.
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So it's like I think it may be made a little bit more than
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double its budget. So like it's not like it did
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like incredibly but it's now like such an iconic like classic
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film. I feel like yeah, I really had a
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good shot like a really had a good time watching it and it
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makes you want to go see like the actual stage play.
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Hmm and I'm probably listening to this stupid soundtrack for
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the rest of the month or so. So, your life, Spencer.
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Are you ready for our favorite game?
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I am, let's do it. The one costume to rule them
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all. Spencer was your one costume to
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rule them all. Mine was easy this week.
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It was carlotta's hot pink costume.
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Yes, once he came storming in with the pink Puffs, the bows,
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the fascinator, the gloves, just everything, head to toe
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Elegance. I immediately was like, okay,
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well, there's my one costume to rule them all.
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Like, I don't have to keep thinking about that.
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It's just so good. I was, that's when I was like,
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okay, we made a good. It's like picking this film
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because originally I was a little hesitant.
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I was like Phantom of the Opera. Yeah.
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That's not jazzed and it's not Jazz but like I loved it was
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really good. Yeah, I love that.
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That costume is a whole mood and I love it.
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Yeah, my one cosmin to rule them all is Christine's think of me
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down the white with the gold stars and, you know, the
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matching star hair pins in her hair.
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R like this is the costume that like I always think about
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whenever I think of Phantom of the Opera I like its iconic.
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Like you associate it with family, the Opera I love that
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it's possibly based off that painting and it's just, it says
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everything it needs to. Yeah it's beautiful.
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And I feel like this look is like so iconic.
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It's been replicated so many times.
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Like, I mean, you see, you know girls, our age going to like,
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People and gain dresses now, if like the same pattern in fact?
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Yeah. You do, you know, like it's a
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such iconic piece so that's definitely like a good one
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We are keeping the spooky Vibes going.
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The soft spooky Vibes, soft spooky.
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We are weren't playing spooky season yet.
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