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Jaguars Reporters: March 23 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: I want to come in and be that spark. I
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Speaker 1: want to I want to bring the juice. UM. You know.
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Speaker 1: I want to create trade, energy, play sparks plays, um.
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Speaker 1: You know I love doing that. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters
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Speaker 1: presented by t I A A Bank with Brian Sexton,
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Speaker 1: Sean Oshan, Ashlyn Sullivan and J. P. Shadri. Jaguar Reporters
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Speaker 1: pretended by t I A A Bank starts right now.
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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Reporter podcast, wrapping up a busy free
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Speaker 1: agency week. We hope you listen to us on Friday
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Speaker 1: and we have a breaking news episode here on Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: It's not really breaking news, but it's a new episode
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Speaker 1: at the least, and that's exciting. We have twelve free
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Speaker 1: agents to talk about. Five team in the building yesterday,
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Speaker 1: so let's go general impressions. Brian Sexton, yesterday was more
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Speaker 1: offensive day and we heard everyone talk about the need
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Speaker 1: for speed is real. Well, big picture generalization is that
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Speaker 1: they found a group of twelve guys that not only
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Speaker 1: fit their salary structure, fit their offense, their defense, their
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Speaker 1: special team, whatever role it is, that they're going to
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Speaker 1: play um and make them more competitive. And you know
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Speaker 1: we've talked about this. Now, if you think eight nate
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Speaker 1: is a bit of a reach, or if you think
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Speaker 1: maybe that's the high water mark, why would you go
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Speaker 1: spend fifteen million dollars a year on a tight end
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Speaker 1: or twenty million dollars a year on an offensive tackle.
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Speaker 1: You're not at that point yet. So I thought that
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Speaker 1: their general approach, they got really good players, not maybe
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Speaker 1: elite players, but guys who can step in lift the
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Speaker 1: level of performance of this roster at a number that
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Speaker 1: gives them the ability to protect their salary cap for
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Speaker 1: the future. Because I really think JP what I'm looking
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Speaker 1: for is three years from now, they're going to have
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Speaker 1: a lot of guys hopefully to pay and a quarterback
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Speaker 1: to pay and along the way here, why would you
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Speaker 1: waste money on a guy in in a prime year
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Speaker 1: of his career When if you're thinking eight nate might
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Speaker 1: be a reach, then why would you pay fifteen dollars
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Speaker 1: for a guy that maybe pushes another team over the top.
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Speaker 1: They had to rebuild the base of their roster right
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Speaker 1: and and fill some spots immediately and get some players
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Speaker 1: out of this situation that they don't know. They didn't draft,
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Speaker 1: they didn't pick up guys that they you know, even
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Speaker 1: in free agents that they may not know them completely.
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Speaker 1: But it felt like to me yesterday that in the
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Speaker 1: last two days these guys talked that the personalities of
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Speaker 1: these guys really matched what Urban and Trent Balky wanted
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Speaker 1: to do. That's why Ryan Stamper and Marcus Pollard I think,
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Speaker 1: are involved in a little bit of that process and
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Speaker 1: we'll see that a lot as the draft comes up
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Speaker 1: to how do they fit with their personality? Are they
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Speaker 1: the type of person player you want in this organization?
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Speaker 1: And it felt like, especially yesterday when, um, when some
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Speaker 1: of those guys step up to the microphone and guy
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Speaker 1: like Marvin Jones has been in the league for what
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Speaker 1: eight nine years now, Um, that is a guy you
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Speaker 1: want in your building because he's been through some life,
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Speaker 1: he's played football at a high level, and he can
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Speaker 1: help some of these younger guys John come along, and
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Speaker 1: I think that's an important part of the piece. It's
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Speaker 1: tough to find that a lot in free agency though. John, Well,
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Speaker 1: they did what they set out to do in the
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Speaker 1: sense of they wanted to as you as you guys said,
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Speaker 1: get better, and they also wanted to bring in guys
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Speaker 1: they were familiar with. They didn't want a whole lot
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Speaker 1: of risks in terms of personality type being brought into
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Speaker 1: the building because there's enough of that in the NFL anyway,
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Speaker 1: So they tried to minimize that. Uh, you know, I
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Speaker 1: can't expand too much on what you guys said, because
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Speaker 1: he covered it. They needed to get the roster better.
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Speaker 1: When they looked at this roster, they said, right now,
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Speaker 1: there are situations where we have to get better to
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Speaker 1: be able to line up. To use that old word,
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Speaker 1: they can line up better than they could before, but
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Speaker 1: let's not underestimate Shaquille Griffin, Malcolm Brown. Those are two
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Speaker 1: spots on the defense. If you get better on the
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Speaker 1: nose and you make your whole secondary better, Yea, there
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Speaker 1: was no reason for them to go out and sign
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Speaker 1: big time linebacker. They've got that, they have pass rushed.
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Speaker 1: If they get those two spots better and safety a
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Speaker 1: little better, all of a sudden, that defense with some
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Speaker 1: of the playmakers. You think Miles Jack won't benefit from
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Speaker 1: these guys who came in. Yeah, he won't be a
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Speaker 1: better player with better players around him. So they lifted
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Speaker 1: this thing a little bit in the last few days yes,
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Speaker 1: despite the splash, had a bunch of things that they
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Speaker 1: needed and checked off the list. And we sometimes forget
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Speaker 1: right here, right now, that this team was one in
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Speaker 1: fifteen last we have forgotten that. We haven't talked about it,
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Speaker 1: but we look, there's no point in continuing on. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we knew what last season was. Last season was getting
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Speaker 1: yourself set up to bring in Trevor Lawrence. Right, it
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Speaker 1: was an razor, right, wiping on the board. You're you're
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Speaker 1: just trying to you they were, That was what it
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Speaker 1: was about. They knew it was going to change this year.
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Speaker 1: There there's no doubt in my mind. They knew it
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Speaker 1: was going to change. So why even bother looking at
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Speaker 1: the numbers last year doesn't matter. The systems knew, the
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Speaker 1: coaches knew, the roster is going to be new. Move on. Yes,
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Speaker 1: you had a lot of work to be done, is
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Speaker 1: the moral of the story. And you got a little
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Speaker 1: bit closer in free agency. So let's hear from a
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Speaker 1: few of the new guys. We're going offense. On Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Reporter podcast today, we have heard coach Meyers say he
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Speaker 1: wants this team to be fast and it's added some
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Speaker 1: pieces to do just that in free agency, one of
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Speaker 1: the most interesting was investing in a return specialists, but
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Speaker 1: one of the best in the league, which I'm all agnew.
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Speaker 1: It definitely means a lot to me just to know
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Speaker 1: my skill set is being valued as it is. Um.
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Speaker 1: I feel like special teams is a very important aspect
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Speaker 1: of the game, and you don't really realizing that, realized
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Speaker 1: that until something catastrophic happens. And but you know, I
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Speaker 1: want to come in and be that spark. I want
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Speaker 1: to I want to bring the juice. Um. You know,
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Speaker 1: I want to create, create energy, play spark plays. UM.
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Speaker 1: I love doing that like that. That stuff's fun to me.
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Speaker 1: It was kind of weird last year without fans. Um.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm running a big return back and it's
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Speaker 1: the quiet, so it's just like that's going on. But
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm here. We're gonna have you know, hundred
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Speaker 1: sent capacity. So I can't wait to the house call
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Speaker 1: that first one and in the stadium. Staying on the
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Speaker 1: offense train. Here we go to free agency and Philip
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Speaker 1: Door said is someone who's been around the league and
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Speaker 1: played for multiple teams, but it's coming back from a
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Speaker 1: foot injury that made him miss the entire season, so
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Speaker 1: one excited to be here in Jacksonville and too just
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Speaker 1: excited to be back playing football again. Oh I know
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Speaker 1: he want to speed. A lot of teams won't speed.
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Speaker 1: They needs to be and um, and I can run.
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Speaker 1: So that was definitely one of one of the big
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Speaker 1: factors that made me come here, but not the only thing.
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Speaker 1: But um, I would say it's probably up there. And
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Speaker 1: we wrap it up here with a guy. Frankly, I
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Speaker 1: was absolutely blown away by this guy. Had the chance
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Speaker 1: to speak to all of them, and Marvin Jones came
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Speaker 1: in here with a plan and extremely professional. This is
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Speaker 1: a guy, like JP said, you want in your locker
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Speaker 1: room and that veteran presence, frankly was missing, and you
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Speaker 1: have found it with this guy. Oh well, I mean
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Speaker 1: it feels good, you know, obviously because I'm still here
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Speaker 1: and I'm still playing at the top of my game.
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Speaker 1: So um, you know, just like I just I just
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Speaker 1: uh met everybody, met the young receivers and um, they
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Speaker 1: they didn't know I was thirty one. So they're like, man,
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Speaker 1: you look you look like you look like us. I'm like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, so now I'll show you the way I
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Speaker 1: said you had to I had to get there. So
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Speaker 1: I'm here. I'm here to be that mentor. Um and
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Speaker 1: and you know, for for them to follow, for them
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Speaker 1: to follow me, um, you know, UM, I love that
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Speaker 1: and I love that type of pressure and um. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So it feels good. All right, John, We just heard
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Speaker 1: from three offensive guys, and coach Meyer has said multiple
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Speaker 1: multiple times, I want to pay play fast, I want
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Speaker 1: to play fearless. You can still add some pieces in
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Speaker 1: the draft, but you're feeling a little better about the
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Speaker 1: offense now with these additions. There's a question. I thank you.
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Speaker 1: Marvin Jones is the one that stands out, and from
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Speaker 1: from listening him slenn Us, they had a chance to
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Speaker 1: get to know him a little better than we all did.
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Speaker 1: With guys who have been in the league ten years,
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Speaker 1: which he has, there's often reasons they've been in the
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Speaker 1: league ten years. They know how to approach it, they
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Speaker 1: know how to keep their bodies right, they know how
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Speaker 1: to prepare. You know, just talent doesn't keep you around
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Speaker 1: this thing. It's clear that he's one of those guys
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Speaker 1: who knows how to be in the league. On defense,
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't got Tyson Alola. He's the same kind of guy.
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Speaker 1: You can't just be an NFL player because you're a
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Speaker 1: good leader, but these guys certainly bring that to the table.
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Speaker 1: And I think Marvin Jones, with this young receiving corps,
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Speaker 1: he's going to play a huge role on the field.
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Speaker 1: I usually stay away from Hey guy is leadership guy
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Speaker 1: and that matters, but this might be one of those
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Speaker 1: cases where that really does matter. Yeah. The Philip door
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Speaker 1: set one, to me, is is interesting because he's this
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Speaker 1: will be his fourth team in the NFL at a
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Speaker 1: very short period of time. I remember he started an
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Speaker 1: ind Anapolis, has that blazing speed, and then was traded
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Speaker 1: I think he was part of the Jacoby Brissette deal
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Speaker 1: and was traded over to the Patriots as part of that,
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Speaker 1: and then last year this the whole season with that
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Speaker 1: foot injury. So I don't know if you could really
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Speaker 1: call this rolling the dice because you've seen him in
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Speaker 1: NFL action really play well and play at a high level.
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Speaker 1: But he is coming off that foot injury. That's a
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Speaker 1: big unknown. Can he live up to that? So I
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Speaker 1: think they're they're taking a little bit of a shot
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Speaker 1: on Philip Dorset, but it's a calculated risk for this team. Guys, right,
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Speaker 1: it's the contract. Look at it. It's not like you're
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Speaker 1: breaking the bank. For Philip Door said, you're bringing in
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Speaker 1: a piece and you're not. You know, if it's it
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Speaker 1: doesn't work, it doesn't work. It didn't break the bank
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Speaker 1: really for anybody. I mean they they didn't set the market,
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Speaker 1: which is what we've become accustomed to the Jaguars doing
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Speaker 1: over the years. Um that they didn't break the bank
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Speaker 1: JP because there's still number one in the league in
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Speaker 1: salary cap rooms. Which look they got or they lifted
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Speaker 1: the roster up as John alluded to. They protected and
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Speaker 1: preserved their salary cap and will into the future for
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Speaker 1: you know, two or three or four years down the
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Speaker 1: road when we expect there to be a number of
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Speaker 1: guys that you want to resign. I mean, all of
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Speaker 1: these guys just fit. They were smart signings. I don't
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Speaker 1: know much about Rudy Ford, right, but why is he here.
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Speaker 1: He's here to provide a special team boost. Great, you
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Speaker 1: need guys like that, and rather than draft somebody and
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Speaker 1: hope to teach them and bring them along, this is
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Speaker 1: a guy that will do that for you and the
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Speaker 1: guys that you bring in on the draft. So I
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Speaker 1: mean it was a very smart week for the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: and a different approach and different approaches work uh in
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Speaker 1: different ways. I think this fits perfectly with where they're at.
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Speaker 1: Specific to doors set all right, say as to play
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Speaker 1: there with advocate he doesn't work out, Well, you've got
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Speaker 1: Chanel sorry, Colin Johnson, and you've got Marvin Jones, and
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Speaker 1: I would expect them to. It wouldn't surprise me at
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Speaker 1: all if they draft a player at that position. So
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Speaker 1: Doors said is very much he has. He has blazing speed.
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Speaker 1: He might give you four huge plays next year because
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Speaker 1: of that speed. So it's really sort of a gravy
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Speaker 1: acquisition in the sense that if he gives you what
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Speaker 1: you hope for, that explosive nous, fantastic, but you're not
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Speaker 1: necessarily depending on him to be one of your main
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Speaker 1: two guys. Yeah, not wide receiver one that hopefully is
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Speaker 1: Marvin Jones with the contract that they paid him and
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Speaker 1: brought him into do Alright, that is our headlines offensive
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Speaker 1: focus for free agency. And before we all pick the
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Speaker 1: we go learning more about some of our free agent picks.
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Speaker 1: We have four guys you want to tell you about JP,
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Speaker 1: but he got I'm gonna go with Rudy Ford and
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Speaker 1: students for the Rudy Ford is from a small town
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Speaker 1: in North Alabama. It was about ten miles south of Huntsville.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I will say this. He's from Big
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Speaker 1: Cove and it's a small place. He went to New
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Speaker 1: Hope High School. The high school is three hundred students, right,
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Speaker 1: tiny class three a school, same high school as Howard
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Speaker 1: Cross by the way, one long time, tied end for
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Speaker 1: the Giants, right, and went to Alabama as well. I
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Speaker 1: went down to Auburn, was a starter for a couple
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Speaker 1: of years, led the Auburn team and tackles for a
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Speaker 1: couple of seasons, then kind of waned office senior season.
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Speaker 1: Then he goes in the National Football League. It was
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Speaker 1: with the Cardinals, and of course we know him most
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Speaker 1: recently with the Eagles. You know, he played last year
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Speaker 1: only eight games, but he was like fifth in the
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Speaker 1: league and special teams tackles had eleven total special teams
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Speaker 1: tackles last year, so you know, he didn't get a
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Speaker 1: lot of defensive time, hasn't had a lot of defensive
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Speaker 1: time in his career. And as you you pointed out earlier, Brian,
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Speaker 1: it's a special teams acquisition, but he has that uh
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Speaker 1: and I think in the combine he was the leading
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Speaker 1: a bench press guy for for defensive backs and safeties
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Speaker 1: that year when he came out. So he's got strength,
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Speaker 1: he can fly down the field, and he has that
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Speaker 1: just you know, that mindset of going down and destroying
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Speaker 1: the guy with the football. Now you know that'll be
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Speaker 1: a lot of on punt returns. There's not many kickoff
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Speaker 1: returns these days, but he'll be on that team as well.
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Speaker 1: But I just like the fact that he came from
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Speaker 1: a really small school in high school, worked his way
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Speaker 1: in the SEC, was you know, a late round draft
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Speaker 1: pick and has found a niche in the NFL and
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Speaker 1: it got him to a free agent contract that was
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Speaker 1: third team in the NFL. So that's a little bit
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Speaker 1: about Ford. I think, as you mentioned, it's going to
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Speaker 1: be I think that's a bigger acquisition. They haven't really
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Speaker 1: had a core group of special teams guys the last years.
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Speaker 1: You need a handful of those guys who can play
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Speaker 1: all the teams. Yeah, I mean you want a guy
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Speaker 1: to be Montell Owens and and Jaguars fans will remember
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Speaker 1: Montell Owens, who, by the way, is moving back here. Um,
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Speaker 1: but Montell was a guy who was a running back
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Speaker 1: and they found him. I mean, I didn't even think
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Speaker 1: you'd make the team. And yet, you know, Jeff Logaman
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Speaker 1: kept pointing out through the course of the preseason games.
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Speaker 1: You know that year, look at this guy on teams,
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Speaker 1: look at this guy on teams, and of course then
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Speaker 1: it becomes a three time you know, Pro Bowl Special
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Speaker 1: Teams performer, and he really set the tone on special teams.
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Speaker 1: That's the key, is that you need somebody who says, hey,
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Speaker 1: you guys, you're all like me, the bottom of the roster.
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Speaker 1: You can be replaced, but if your hair is on
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Speaker 1: fire and you're willing to take the coaching and then
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Speaker 1: take down the return man, you could make a career
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Speaker 1: in this game. And he has. So those guys are
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Speaker 1: so critical because field position is a huge part of
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Speaker 1: the game that gets overlooked so often. Field position, field position,
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Speaker 1: field position. Yeah, and I asked him, Um, because coach
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Speaker 1: Meyer is known for special teams and how much it's
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Speaker 1: a big deal of this game. And I asked him,
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Speaker 1: you know, you just got a contract, a big time
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Speaker 1: contract to come in here and be the special teams guy.
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Speaker 1: He's like, the commitment they have for this team to
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Speaker 1: special teams is huge. I feel like I'm a really
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Speaker 1: important piece and at time special team you don't feel
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Speaker 1: like that. He's like, here, I feel like that, John Well,
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Speaker 1: And they showed that with Jamal Agne as well. I
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Speaker 1: mean they feel like they need to be better on
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Speaker 1: special teams. Yeah, it's the old thing. When you are
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Speaker 1: coming in as they are and you're trying to establish things,
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Speaker 1: meaning the regime is trying to establish things, you need
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Speaker 1: players who are going to be the symbol of that
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Speaker 1: and to be the voice in the locker room. Clearly,
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Speaker 1: Ford is that guy. Agnew is that guy on the
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Speaker 1: other side of special teams, if you will, in terms
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Speaker 1: of being the returners. So it's putting your money where
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Speaker 1: your mouth. I'll say this to you know, Urban Meyer
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Speaker 1: and and Nick Saban and guys like that are known
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Speaker 1: for putting starting offensive or defensive players on special teams units. Right.
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Speaker 1: Damian Harris was on the punt block team in Alabama, right,
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Speaker 1: and had a few blocks in his career. Zeke Elliott
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Speaker 1: was on kickoff coverage at Ohio State, and like, you
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Speaker 1: can't do that here in the NFL, but you go
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Speaker 1: out and get specialized guys that can go. Basically they're
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Speaker 1: special team starters even though they don't get starting monikers here,
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Speaker 1: you know, and you go with um, if you pair
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Speaker 1: Rudy Ford with who was the best special team's performer
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Speaker 1: last year, Who's the guy who stands out immediately that
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Speaker 1: made the most plays on special teams? We're here, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: andrewingered to me, well, they haven't had a tandem like
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Speaker 1: that here since you know, two thousand ten when they
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Speaker 1: brought in cassim oz Good from San Diego, right and
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Speaker 1: the Chargers to pair with Montell and they were really
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Speaker 1: good on special teams for a while because of those
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Speaker 1: two guys. When you've got two of those guys that
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Speaker 1: can do it, now, yeah, now you really have a
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Speaker 1: tempo center. So absolutely, all right, Rudy Ford is one
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Speaker 1: of them. I know so much more about him now
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Speaker 1: thanks to JP. Thank you, kind sir, John who you
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Speaker 1: got Well, I'm probably gonna go all back to high
17:00
Speaker 1: school for Carlos Hide. But I'll go back to his
17:03
Speaker 1: last time with the Jaguars. And you know, I got
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Speaker 1: letters from fans or not letters. I'm not you know,
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Speaker 1: we're not in the nineteen forties. I got emails from fans.
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Speaker 1: Why do we resign this guy? It didn't work last time.
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Speaker 1: It was a bad taste. It was not a great
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Speaker 1: moment a two thousand eighteen for Carlos Hide and the Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: But he addressed it and said, look, um, it's a
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Speaker 1: new era. He's really not resigning with the same team
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Speaker 1: that he left in terms of NFL, so fresh start
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Speaker 1: for this guy. He knows urban Meyer. It feels like
17:42
Speaker 1: obviously he knew he was coming here immediately as soon
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Speaker 1: as urban Meyer came to Jaguars head coach. This to me, guys,
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Speaker 1: is an example of the NFL for these players is
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Speaker 1: not necessarily about the logo. It's about who's there. It's
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Speaker 1: about who they're around. And for Carlos Hide, he feels
18:04
Speaker 1: like this is a fit. Yeah, no doubt. By the way,
18:07
Speaker 1: Send yourself address stamped envelope to John Osier one t
18:11
Speaker 1: I A bank Field Drive, Jacksonville, Florida, three zero two,
18:14
Speaker 1: and he will get back to you somewhere. There's a
18:17
Speaker 1: reddit group, a Reddit group that will decide to bring
18:21
Speaker 1: back mail, kind of like they pushed up the game
18:24
Speaker 1: stop stock and John, you will be inundated with sacks,
18:28
Speaker 1: burlap sacks filled with pieces of you. You'll have to
18:31
Speaker 1: get interns to help you sign your your name sign
18:35
Speaker 1: me up for That would be this summer for vacation.
18:41
Speaker 1: So anyway, Carlos Hide, he's, as he said, Urban was
18:44
Speaker 1: the big name, but he's got multiple connections here. Bak.
18:47
Speaker 1: He got him in the league, drafted him in San Francisco,
18:50
Speaker 1: and then Schottenheimer last year had him in Seattle. So
18:53
Speaker 1: it is the perfect set up for him. And it's
18:56
Speaker 1: a as you said, John, it's a new regime. It's
18:59
Speaker 1: a new world here. You know, does he bring a
19:01
Speaker 1: different attitude, that's my question, because he did not have
19:04
Speaker 1: a good attitude when he was here. He was behind
19:07
Speaker 1: Leonard and t J and I get it totally, but
19:12
Speaker 1: he was not a pleasant person when he was here.
19:14
Speaker 1: The last time. Now he alluded to the fact that
19:18
Speaker 1: he was going through some things, and you know, he
19:20
Speaker 1: didn't share all those and that's fine, you know, you
19:21
Speaker 1: don't have to do that. But when they signed him,
19:23
Speaker 1: my first reaction is not that guy again. However, when
19:26
Speaker 1: you go and you watch him play in Houston, uh
19:29
Speaker 1: and we saw it. He brings power and quickness to
19:33
Speaker 1: the whole and a downhill mentality, So I can understand
19:36
Speaker 1: why they want to bring him in. Uh And And
19:38
Speaker 1: as John said, he's not coming back to the same
19:41
Speaker 1: locker room and the same players. So you know, he's
19:43
Speaker 1: got a fresh slate. Let's see what you do with it.
19:45
Speaker 1: He's thirty years old. He's a role player as far
19:48
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. He's going to be a guy who's
19:50
Speaker 1: going to carry the ball with James Robinson um probably
19:54
Speaker 1: what fifteen times a game if if that's what the
19:56
Speaker 1: game plan calls for. So you know, it's low, it's
20:00
Speaker 1: it's low money. It's what is it, three million, it's
20:03
Speaker 1: six two years? Yeah, yeah, okay, fine, right, you want
20:07
Speaker 1: to bring some power in. He's as good a power
20:09
Speaker 1: back as you could bring in. And I will give
20:11
Speaker 1: him the benefit of the doubt and say that with
20:14
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer here was the head coach, he'll come in
20:16
Speaker 1: with a different attitude, all about a fresh start. And
20:18
Speaker 1: I do for the next year that's the Jaguars played
20:21
Speaker 1: the tex sas Carlos Hide had himself a game. We
20:24
Speaker 1: were saying, what the heck happened to Carlos Hide? And
20:27
Speaker 1: why is he like this now? So place? He was
20:30
Speaker 1: also here in two thousand eighteen. Guys, It's not like
20:34
Speaker 1: he was fine solo on having a tough year in
20:36
Speaker 1: terms all that stuff that year. Yeah, but he stands
20:40
Speaker 1: at the only one that was a bad fit. He
20:42
Speaker 1: still he wasn't here all that long. He stood out
20:45
Speaker 1: for the way that he was in the locker room.
20:47
Speaker 1: I mean it's it was like he's coming back to
20:51
Speaker 1: what he sees a new situation. If he was going
20:54
Speaker 1: back to the you know, to the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah,
20:59
Speaker 1: for him, this is no different than that. Soppen. We
21:03
Speaker 1: will see what's happens, all right, Brian, what about you?
21:06
Speaker 1: Can you sing the fight song of Philip Dorsets High School? Oh? Crap,
21:11
Speaker 1: I know it's don't tell me. They're gonna be so disappointed. St.
21:16
Speaker 1: Thomas Aquinas a lums unite um. They put out a
21:23
Speaker 1: lot of talent, there's no doubt. Ut Thomas and Palm Beach. No,
21:27
Speaker 1: it's not copy. Uh. Here's the thing that stands out.
21:32
Speaker 1: And you know, Dorset was a first round pick of
21:34
Speaker 1: the Colts in two thousand and fifteen. He's averaged twenty
21:38
Speaker 1: five catches in three five yards and two touchdowns in
21:41
Speaker 1: five seasons of action. Last year obviously you mentioned he
21:44
Speaker 1: didn't play. Um, yeah, he You look at his career
21:48
Speaker 1: numbers catches, uh, four yards, eleven touchdowns. That's a good
21:53
Speaker 1: season by Michael Thomas right in New Orleans. So everyone,
21:58
Speaker 1: whether it's the Colts or the pay Treats or the Seahawks,
22:01
Speaker 1: they have banked on his speed and he's made some
22:04
Speaker 1: plays here and there that had made you go wow, um,
22:08
Speaker 1: low risk, high rewards signing. You know, the Dorset reminds
22:12
Speaker 1: me of a couple of guys in this group who
22:14
Speaker 1: are all promising players who are still looking to capture
22:19
Speaker 1: their potential right uh to play at a high level
22:23
Speaker 1: and to prove that they belong in the NFL um
22:26
Speaker 1: for four or five more years. And I thought he
22:30
Speaker 1: presented himself well yesterday. He's clearly got the speed right,
22:33
Speaker 1: assuming that the foot is there. Speed is why he
22:36
Speaker 1: has stayed in the league for five years, because when
22:38
Speaker 1: you look at numbers like this, he's never had more
22:41
Speaker 1: than thirty three catches in a season and never more
22:44
Speaker 1: than five yards. Right, so he's never put a big numbers.
22:48
Speaker 1: You'd say, well, I can go find another guy. I
22:50
Speaker 1: can go find Keelan Cole from Kentucky Wesleyan who can
22:53
Speaker 1: give me these kinds of numbers at less than this
22:56
Speaker 1: guy is gonna cost me. However, what this guy brings
23:01
Speaker 1: is that tantalizing prospect of speed that you can't find
23:06
Speaker 1: in many places. You can't coach it. So hopefully the
23:10
Speaker 1: year off has given him the ability to recapture the
23:13
Speaker 1: explosive nous and be able to come and be on
23:16
Speaker 1: the field. Look, he's probably never going to be more
23:19
Speaker 1: than a twenty five average, twenty five catch guy, because
23:21
Speaker 1: you've got other you got Morvin Jones and Leavisca Chennault
23:24
Speaker 1: and d J. Chark and Colin Johnson. But if he
23:26
Speaker 1: gives you twenty five catches where he averages sixteen yards
23:30
Speaker 1: or seventeen yards per catch, man at the number that
23:33
Speaker 1: he's playing for, he's giving you something for sure. Yeah,
23:37
Speaker 1: if he flips the field four times, is he worth it? Oh?
23:41
Speaker 1: Without doubt? Change the box. Yeah, I mean if he
23:43
Speaker 1: takes it from the opposing thirty five three or four times.
23:47
Speaker 1: That's which you sign a guy like this for that
23:49
Speaker 1: kind of speed where all of a sudden the momentum
23:51
Speaker 1: changes in a game, and with that speed, he's capable
23:53
Speaker 1: of doing that, is he? You know, I'm curious can
23:57
Speaker 1: he do the different things? We're always kind of trying
24:01
Speaker 1: to compare people to Percy Harvon right, similar size, right,
24:04
Speaker 1: I mean it's for doorsets five tin Percy was like
24:08
Speaker 1: five eleven on something like that, right different. I know
24:12
Speaker 1: that the speed and like they moved Harvon all over
24:15
Speaker 1: the place in the backfield slot out. Do you know
24:18
Speaker 1: he was thicker? Heah he. You know when you used
24:21
Speaker 1: to put Jimmy Smith next to Keenan macartello, you could
24:23
Speaker 1: always tell the difference because Jimmy had the lower body,
24:26
Speaker 1: big legs um and and Harvon is that way? I mean,
24:30
Speaker 1: this guy is more of just a straight down the
24:34
Speaker 1: field burner. Here. Here's what he'll do. He'll take the
24:37
Speaker 1: safety down the field who's scared of his speed and
24:39
Speaker 1: clear out the middle for whoever you have a tight
24:41
Speaker 1: end or for Labisco Shetion alt in the middle of
24:43
Speaker 1: the field. This guy will take the safeties away because
24:48
Speaker 1: his speed will scared in the round. Stuff with him.
24:50
Speaker 1: I would be interesting because of his speed to get
24:53
Speaker 1: around the corner. Maybe too. I don't know they're gonna
24:56
Speaker 1: use the double reverse. Hell, give me a calling it now.
25:05
Speaker 1: Don't be surprised when it happens. He's spoken into existence,
25:11
Speaker 1: all right. Bringing at Home with Marvin Jones, he joked
25:16
Speaker 1: that he is now the oldest guy in the wide
25:18
Speaker 1: receiver locker room, but looks the youngest. Noted still at
25:22
Speaker 1: the height of his career despite his age, which is
25:25
Speaker 1: not old but just funny. That's jp you were the
25:28
Speaker 1: guy that called him old in the press contra I said,
25:30
Speaker 1: don't take this the wrong way, but you are the
25:32
Speaker 1: old man of the room. Yes, he smiled, He didn't.
25:37
Speaker 1: This guy can play nine touchdowns last year, played in
25:40
Speaker 1: every single game, started obviously, and every single game, and
25:44
Speaker 1: stat wise, one of the best years of his career.
25:48
Speaker 1: This is the guy that you want in the building.
25:50
Speaker 1: And something that stood out to me is we talk
25:52
Speaker 1: about leadership and you're like, hey, he's a great leader.
25:54
Speaker 1: Coach Meyers said it last Friday that his phone has
25:57
Speaker 1: been blowing up about this guy's leadership cape abilities. But
26:01
Speaker 1: I asked him about about the wide receivers, and I
26:03
Speaker 1: was like, what do you know about him? DJ Charcoal
26:05
Speaker 1: discussion all He's like, actually, just I just sat down
26:07
Speaker 1: with them. I just spoke with them. Granted, let's remember
26:10
Speaker 1: that when free agents come in here, it's not for
26:12
Speaker 1: a week's stay there here maybe five hours, four hours.
26:17
Speaker 1: They have a lot to do while they're here. They're
26:18
Speaker 1: seeing coaches, going over things, meeting the media. And Marvin
26:23
Speaker 1: Jones took the time to sit down with these two
26:26
Speaker 1: guys his very first day and get to know them.
26:29
Speaker 1: I don't think I've never heard of that happening before.
26:31
Speaker 1: We take that you say hi and by, but that
26:34
Speaker 1: stood out to me. You know, you your preach leadership
26:36
Speaker 1: and he's doing it well. Free agencies different than it
26:38
Speaker 1: even was in two thousand and seventeen. I mean, I
26:40
Speaker 1: can remember seventeen. You had Calais Campbell standing over in
26:43
Speaker 1: the coaches offices, and as all those guys came through
26:46
Speaker 1: from that big free agency class, you know, he was
26:49
Speaker 1: there to greet them and talk to them. You know,
26:51
Speaker 1: he and a J boy had a long conversation and
26:54
Speaker 1: they were spending the time together. Um COVID has changed
26:57
Speaker 1: that a bit and just the rapid nature of building
27:00
Speaker 1: your team. Um, Marvin Jones here, here's my reaction to him. Okay,
27:04
Speaker 1: they're not going to draft a receiver in the first round,
27:06
Speaker 1: right because you're adding Marvin Jones or even maybe the
27:08
Speaker 1: second Marvin Jones and Philip dor said to La Visca,
27:12
Speaker 1: Colin and Djo it's a group. Okay, you got that group.
27:16
Speaker 1: Now you go find another receiver somewhere down the road.
27:19
Speaker 1: But the other thing they just said to me was
27:20
Speaker 1: they are going to throw the ball a lot here
27:22
Speaker 1: a lot with a quarterback going to throw it a lot.
27:27
Speaker 1: So the mentality of run first, which was here seventeen, eighteen,
27:31
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty gone. Yeah, this team is gonna throw the
27:34
Speaker 1: ball side note, John, have you googled his American idol performance?
27:40
Speaker 1: I have not. I was assuming that you would take
27:44
Speaker 1: care of that angle force for Jaguars reporters would cover
27:47
Speaker 1: that is American idols that on TikTok. Is that one
27:50
Speaker 1: of those TikTok they have a TikTok channel And it
27:54
Speaker 1: was from the two thousand eighteen season. It was like,
27:57
Speaker 1: I don't know if it made it on the finalized show.
27:59
Speaker 1: It was kind of like behind the scenes, but they're
28:01
Speaker 1: like Katie Perry. You know Katie Perry, she's a hit maker.
28:05
Speaker 1: John she was blown away, kissed a girl and she
28:08
Speaker 1: liked it. Right, Yeah, alright, that Joe turned my Mica off.
28:19
Speaker 1: Do yourself a favor and google Marvin Jones American Idle performance.
28:23
Speaker 1: It was thrilling. But there's some guys and all kidding aside,
28:28
Speaker 1: we've all been through free agency enough where there are
28:31
Speaker 1: some guys who when they walk into a building, you
28:35
Speaker 1: can tell that they are going to own it in
28:40
Speaker 1: terms of being there for the media, in terms of
28:42
Speaker 1: being a leader. You know you've been closer to him
28:46
Speaker 1: Slenn than any of us just by having a chance
28:48
Speaker 1: to talk to him. He strikes you as there's a
28:51
Speaker 1: little bit of Laius when Calais came in, of immediately
28:55
Speaker 1: becoming a veteran leader, as if he's been here for
28:59
Speaker 1: eight or nine years and he has that personality type.
29:02
Speaker 1: When Klaius got here, it was as if he had
29:05
Speaker 1: spent all ten years with the Jaguars. You need those
29:08
Speaker 1: kind of guys. That strikes me that Marvin James might
29:10
Speaker 1: be that kind of guy. I could not agree more.
29:13
Speaker 1: Slam Duncan. Yeah, and I'll say this to just to
29:16
Speaker 1: get it out there. I said earlier. You know, he's
29:18
Speaker 1: lived a lot of life. I didn't know about American idol.
29:21
Speaker 1: That's one part of it. But not that long ago,
29:25
Speaker 1: he and his wife lost an infant son, um, so
29:29
Speaker 1: he and he almost quit football, and there was a
29:32
Speaker 1: point where he didn't want to do this anymore. He
29:35
Speaker 1: didn't want to do a lot of things anymore. And
29:37
Speaker 1: he explained yesterday that he quickly, after getting together with
29:42
Speaker 1: his family, decide, you know what, this this is the
29:45
Speaker 1: right thing to be around. So it's not just a
29:49
Speaker 1: football player catching touchdowns. Um. He has his priorities in order,
29:54
Speaker 1: and I think that will go a long way in
29:56
Speaker 1: this locker room. How many times did Jamal Agnew say
29:59
Speaker 1: he's an incredible thought? I heard it at least three times,
30:01
Speaker 1: and that that I left thinking, Okay, I can't wait
30:04
Speaker 1: to talk to him and find out what he does
30:06
Speaker 1: with his kids and why and what makes him such
30:09
Speaker 1: an incredible father. So important to find out what kind
30:13
Speaker 1: of people they are, and you find out by the
30:15
Speaker 1: way that you treat your kids. Over All, this seems
30:17
Speaker 1: like a really cool guy, and it was funny. After
30:19
Speaker 1: the interview. One more side note. He he looked at
30:22
Speaker 1: the cameras. He goes, oh my god, those are red cameras.
30:24
Speaker 1: He's like, and I saw you guys walking around with
30:26
Speaker 1: ari cameras, Like you know what those are. He's like, yeah,
30:28
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really into the production side of TV and
30:31
Speaker 1: and this is awesome. You guys have this equipment. We're like,
30:34
Speaker 1: what great? We're going to be asking you to be
30:36
Speaker 1: in front of these quite a bit. Yeah, like get
30:38
Speaker 1: used to this, You're like in this. There's more where
30:41
Speaker 1: this comes from. So yes, overall, Marvin Jones safe to
30:44
Speaker 1: say and pressed us and this podcast, I would say
30:48
Speaker 1: it was pretty impressive for this week when stuff John's sleep.
30:56
Speaker 1: Can you see what breaked off quickly? Actually before he
31:01
Speaker 1: can do anything to dissuade you from your positivity. Yeah,
31:04
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