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How Deep Suffering Creates Success | JohnJay Van Es · The Hannah Hammond Show

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  I'm just working on winning and winning and being a best me and
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  being successful and I try to stay away from being negative
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  and just kind of drive and push and push and push.
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  Every morning I have my rituals and one of them is, you know, I
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  manifest, I write things down, I put things out in the universe
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  and I keep going over what I'm grateful for.
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  And my, I'm just so grateful for what I have.
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  But I do want more, you know? Like I feel like it's wrong to
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  want more, but I'm really happy with what I am, grateful for
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  what I am. You have to enjoy the journey
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  and be grateful for where you are now and live in the gain,
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  not the gap. A few people I know in my life
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  that have exited with nice paychecks eventually start
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  something else. There's that drive to do
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  something else. Entrepreneurs are very good at
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  being here and wanting to be here.
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  Like they're very, very good at being here and wanting to be
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  there. And then every time you get
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  there, then the goal post moves and all of a sudden you're here
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  and you want to be there. The pain is the purpose, the
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  mess is the message. And if we can get in there and
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  provide the right support and the right mentorship and the
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  right love for these kids, those kids can go on to become the
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  greatest impact makers out there if they just have that right.
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  That's what we do. We try to chase the impact.
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  I mean, we got some great kids that have gone off into the
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  military and some have become pilots.
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  There's a guy, he went to the radio station and he says if you
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  guys wouldn't have done that, I wouldn't have been missed.
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  Welcome back everyone to the Hannah Hammond Show.
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  I'm here with John Jay from John Jay and Rich and you have a
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  radio show that hosts on what, 20 different markets nationally
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  get a million plus views a week. Tell us about your show.
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  Yeah, we're based in Phoenix. I think we're on a 24 cities
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  across the country, but the beauty of that, that's kind of
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  cool to say. But on the iheart app, you can
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  hear us all over the country, all over the world.
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  I think, you know, it's like I know that we have 300,000 people
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  listen to us just in LA and we're not on in LA.
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  That's crazy. That's pretty cool.
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  Like our live list and people listening live on the app.
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  It's pretty cool. And you know, I met you through
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  when I first started my podcast, I reached out to you to be one
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  of the first guests on the show because Robert Kiyosaki was the
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  first one. I think you were going to be
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  what, number 2 or Yeah, I. Was pretty excited, they blew me
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  off. No.
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  Well, first you blew me off and then I blew you off after that.
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  Well, I blew you off. I just forgot to get back to
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  you, Right? Right.
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  And then you ended up calling me back on your live radio show on
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  your your. Calling you out for blowing me
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  off exactly because I was bragging about, I brag on my
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  radio show about I've been doing a lot of like when if I was
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  going to do your, your interview, I think that would
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  have been my third interview as a podcast guest.
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  And now for some reason, I've done so many of them.
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  So now my ongoing joke on my radio shows.
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  I'm a great guest. I'm a great guest and like, and
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  then Hannah blew me off and I was so excited to be your guest,
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  but I really don't know if I am a good cast or not, so.
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  Well, you're you're amazing. I mean, we just did a podcast.
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  So I guess now, now, yeah, they'll thank you.
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  Yeah, but you called me on your show and I was live on kiss FMI
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  think it was. I started getting text messages.
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  People were like, I just heard you on John, Jay and Rich.
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  I was like, oh gosh, I should have said that.
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  You were great. Crazy stuff that I said, but but
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  yeah, it's it's super exciting and you're just hilarious and so
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  fun. And I don't know, I think where
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  I first started my podcast, someone had had you on their
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  show at the studio and that's how I found out about you.
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  And I know I've heard you on the radio too.
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  I hope so. You grew up here, right?
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  Yeah, exactly. That would suck of you.
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  Yeah. Well, I pretty much lived under
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  a rock, so I, you know, didn't listen to a ton of radio, but I
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  remember hearing you on the radio for sure.
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  And I was reading about you and you, I mean, you're obviously an
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  entrepreneur. You're the host of radio show.
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  You're a big philanthropist. You have love up and love pop,
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  which I'm super excited to hear about those foundations because
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  living a mission driven and purpose driven life is
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  everything that you I believe in.
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  And I think we can what is our purpose but to make an impact
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  and try to try to make the world a better place, right?
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  And use our skills and our passions and gifts to be able to
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  do that. So, but I, when I was reading
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  about you, I read that you wanted to be on the radio from
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  the time you were like a little boy and you actually pursued
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  that passion and fulfilled that passion.
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  And here you are getting millions of views a month and
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  you, you're, you did it. So like, how did that stem in
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  you as a child? And what was that journey like
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  for you to actually ultimately end up there?
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  Like was it an easy road or what did you have to go through to
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  get? There, it's just kind of funny
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  how things work out and I have the evolution of my career.
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  I got one point I want, I've always wanted to be on the
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  radio, but I I didn't know how to go about it.
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  And I think I was very insecure because I remember one time I
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  was trying to rehearse some comedy act I heard on a a
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  comedian do and I did in front of my dad.
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  And my dad was like, that's not funny.
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  And it just crushed me, right? Because I remember my dad
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  thought my cousin Robert did something that was funny and I
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  thought Robert was a goofball. And my dad goes, that's funny.
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  And I was like you, all I want to do is make my parents laugh.
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  I used to make my sister laugh all the time and it was great.
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  But later, so I, I, when I look back at my career, I see that I
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  did almost everything you can do in radio but be on the radio,
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  right? I start off as an intern in
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  promotions. I hung the banners, I drove the
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  van. Then I got into promotion
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  marketing where I help put deals together.
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  I help you to work out trade deals with restaurants and you
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  know, TV's and stuff like that in the music business and
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  dealing with a lot of the artists and entertainment.
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  Then I got into sales where I did a lot of sales.
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  And when I was in sales, I remember earlier I was talking
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  to you about success coaches. I had hired a success coach.
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  I think I was about 2223. I hired a success coach.
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  I would meet with him once a week just like a like a shrink,
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  you know, back in the day, you know, mental health wasn't
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  talked about as much. But I looked at, I told myself
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  he was a success coach and I'm with them all the time.
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  And I just tried to, I just, I just had a goal to just be the
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  best I could possibly be in sales.
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  And then at that time, you know, my wife and I, we were engaged
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  and I was like, I wasn't happy. You know, I remember I was, I
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  was making, I was making about, in fact, I know exactly how I
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  was making. I was making $42,000 a year.
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  I had a nice condo on the beach in San Diego and I wasn't happy.
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  And my wife says, my fiance, well, what do you, what do you
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  want to do? What's the ultimate goal?
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  And I said, well, I want my own radio show.
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  I said, but I think that's impossible.
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  That's you have to to go get your own radio show.
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  You got to go to a small town in Kentucky and do overnights,
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  midnight to five. Then once you figure out how to
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  do that, then they usually put you on afternoons in mid days.
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  And so before I got my own morning show, it would take
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  forever. And, and she was like, well,
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  what else you want to do? And I said, or I'd like to write
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  or perform for Saturday Night Live.
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  She said, well, let's go that angle.
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  So I looked at how you get to be on Saturday Night Live.
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  And one of the ways they used to get people to turn out live, it
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  was two ways. They would go to Second City
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  Chicago, which is Improv Droop Troop or you'd go to the
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  Groundlings in LA. And I lived in San Diego at the
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  time. So I went to the Groundlings.
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  I auditioned there and they took me in and I started performing
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  with Groundlings and improv troupe and go to school to
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  Groundlings and that kind of stuff.
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  And and then I found a Long story short, I got a job offer
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  to go to Cincinnati. So my first radio job on the air
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  was my own morning show in Cincinnati.
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  Yeah. So it was pretty crazy.
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  And the story I like to tell is, so I told you I was making
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  42,000. So they thought I was a top
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  sales guy. So they said, hey, we know
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  you're top sales guy. You know, we don't have a lot of
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  money for this position right now.
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  How much would you like, how much would it take to get you
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  here? And I was like, I'll take 75,000
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  and they go, we'll give you 65. I was like, done.
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  I just gave myself this friggin $25,000 raise and.
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  That was nice. I was making bank.
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  Yeah. And so when was that?
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  That was 1996. OK, that's when I was born.
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  Wow. Wow, that's so you've been in
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  radio for almost 30? Years.
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  I've been on the air for 30. I've been on the radio since
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  1990. Yeah, in radio since 1990.
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  That's crazy. And why?
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  Why did you What made you want to be on the radio when you were
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  a kid? Yeah, a couple things.
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  One is I, I loved listening to the radio.
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  I was listening to the all the new music that was coming out.
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  I listened to the DJs. My dad one time we were driving
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  cross country. We moved, we moved a lot when I
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  was a kid and we were in AU haul and he was driving it.
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  And I remember him, there's no radio in the car.
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  And I remember him pretending to turn on the radio and act like
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  a, the BBC Radio. And also he gave himself an
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  English accent. And I was like my, my father's
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  in the Netherlands and he speaks or he spoke, he passed away.
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  He spoke 7 languages. So also he was like doing these
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  accents and going hello, this is BBC One.
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  And he was turning the radio and I was like, I remember it was
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  the front seat. And I was like what?
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  And then he gave me a tape recorder and I would record my
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  sister, I would interview my mom.
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  I would do all kinds of things like that.
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  And then and I, I didn't really know really it was the radio
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  until later. And then, of course, you know,
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  like everybody, Howard Stern was the biggest thing in the world.
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  And I was like, that's what I've been doing my whole life behind
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  the scenes. That's what I want to do.
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  That's so cool that you followed your passion that you knew so
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  young right away. You know, like for me it was a
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  lot of a big journey of I have no idea what I want to do and
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  what is my purpose here and what am I passionate about?
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  And it was just super lost. So that's cool that you had a
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  path and you literally just stuck with that path and you
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  were pretty dialed in and laser focused on getting there.
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  I was laser focused on radio, but I it took me a long time to
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  get to the on. Airport like.
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  I knew I, I was like, I, I, I felt like I was too insecure to
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  say, hey, I, I think I, I think I'm funny.
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  I think I can entertain people, you know, and I still have that.
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  I still get on the air sometimes and think, God, every time I
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  crack open the mic, I I have like AI know I have a beginning,
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  middle and end in my head and I hope that it's funny.
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  Yeah, you know what I mean? So that's what I try to do or or
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  emotional. You said that you were, you
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  always want to make your dad laugh, your parents laugh and
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  your dad was like, that's not funny.
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  Those things when we're a kid become big wounds in Austin that
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  usually drive us to into adulthood.
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  Like they changed the trajectory of her whole life.
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  I remember my dad, it was when I was 7 years old and I6 or seven,
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  I can't remember exactly, but I asked him for an Oreo Mcflurry
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  from McDonald's and it was telling you how much I love
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  food, still love my Mcflurries. And he said no, like we can't
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  afford it and you can't have that.
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  And I told him I'm going to be rich so I could buy myself
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  Mcflurries. And that, that moment, like
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  literally drove me to have an incessant will and desire to get
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  rich. OK, hold on.
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  So I'm a little kid and my dad's watching.
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  I'm want, I wanted. We have one TV, there's only
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  three channels and I'm watching TV.
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  My dad comes in and puts it on the news.
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  I said what are you doing? I wonder why I'm watching what?
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  And he goes no. And I'm never forget.
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  I yelled at him, when I grow up I'm going to get my own TV and
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  you can't watch it. And I just bought 100 inch TV
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  about two months ago. Hell yeah.
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  Literally the same exact thing. I pointed him and yelled at him
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  totally. Yeah, that was amazing.
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  And that's. But now I wish he was alive
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  today because I would love for him to watch my TV.
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  Yeah, yeah, someday. Well, he's watching.
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  He's watching down. But also, you know, with my dad,
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  I, I mean, I did get him to laugh like as in adulthood, I
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  made my dad laugh, my dad laugh a million times.
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  Like it was fantastic. Like to get to that level, I
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  remember there was a, there was a, a CD out back in the day by
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  a, a group of guys called the Jerky Boys.
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  And all they would do is crank all people.
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  And I remember I was listening to stuff all the time to get it,
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  just to get information. Just got like the way you listen
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  to motivational books and podcast.
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  At the time I was listening to every stand up comedian.
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  I was watching every video I could on anything.
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  And I put in the Dirky Boys and they were just crank calls and
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  they were hilarious. And I remember I picked up my
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  dad as a sales guy and I just bought a used 5 Series BMW
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  because I remember as a sales guy I was like, I want to look
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  more successful that I am more successful than my competitor.
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  So when I pull up to somebody and I'm competing against
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  another radio station that the client was going to go, that guy
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  is in a Volkswagen. That guy's in A5 series BMW.
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  He knows more than that guy. He must do better than I was
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  playing all the subliminal games you can play in sales, right?
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  So I just remember my put put the CD in my my BMW and I
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  remember my dad laughing uncontrollably to these guys.
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  And I was like, that's just the goal to make my dad laugh.
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  My mom, I can make her laugh all the time, all the time, my
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  sister all the time. But my dad was a lot of hard
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  work. And I feel like that's paid off
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  for me on the radio because sometimes I think, you know,
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  there's the easy way to make someone laugh.
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  There's always the easy joke. I always think it's better to
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  let the audience go there on their own, you know what I mean?
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  So like, instead of just a simple punchline, it's so much
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  more fun to get the audience to get there, you know?
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  And that was how my dad was. Give me an example of that.
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  What do you mean get the audience to get there?
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  Geez. Well, you know, there's a lot of
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  things you can't say on the radio, right, With FCC
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  regulations. So you got to be clever about
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  how you say things. So sometimes you just have to
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  use different words to get somewhere.
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  But that is a good example to ask me to come up with an
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  example. I don't know.
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  You got to give me. I got to go over that.
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  That's a bad improv. I can't even.
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  Give you no, that's OK. Well, like, you know, when
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  someone walks into a party, if you walk into a party and you
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  know, you, you grab your crotch and go, hey, everybody.
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  Like there's people that do jokes like that.
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  I think it's better to walk into a party and slowly get to like
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  the room to like you and then and then you're the funny guy to
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  everybody. It's like a slow process, right?
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  So that's kind of what I try to do on the radio is this slow
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  intimate Radio's very intimate, right?
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  A lot of times people are addressing, you know, you, you,
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  you were talking to a group of people.
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  A lot of if you listen to if you listen to radio, someone's going
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  to be like, hey, everybody, what's up, Good morning.
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  How's everybody doing? But in reality, you're talking
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  to one person, you're talking to one people, but a million
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  people, but one person at a time, They got their headphones
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  on or they're in the car that the cubicle.
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  That's why podcasts sometimes are so great because it's so
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  intimate, right? one-on-one.
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  So I try to talk to one person at a time.
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  So getting that one person to follow me down the road as I
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  tell a story. Yeah, no, I get it, 'cause
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  you're building trust and rapport with people and then
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  you're, Yeah, you're not just trying to crack a joke.
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  That's formatted to make someone laugh in that moment you're
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  actually building that relationship.
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  And then you, you're just, you're like the funny person or
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  you're, you're entertaining. Build trust with them.
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  But there are a lot of comedians that come out now and just tell
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  dirty stuff right away. And to me, that doesn't work for
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  me, 'cause you, I don't know you well enough to do.
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  I mean, if Dave Chappelle comes out and tell you, I've seen 10
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  Dave Chappelle specials and now he's got my trust already, I get
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  him already. But if you're a new comedian, if
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  you're a new radio show, you got to start off slow and get people
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  to love you, to like you. To love you yeah.
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  Did you You know a lot of comedians come from a lot of
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  trauma, you know, like a lot of the funniest people have have
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  been through a lot of the greatest pain from what I've
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  experienced or or her and. And that comes out in their
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  sense of humor. And I know, you know, I've used
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  humor in my life to like cut off from my emotions or to just make
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  make circumstances funny when they're not or whatever.
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  Did you feel like that was the case for you at all or were you
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  just kind of always like a a funny guy or did you go through
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  a lot of? So my mother's Mexican and my
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  father's in the Netherlands and my Mexican uncles were freaking
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  hilarious, right? And I struggled with my weight a
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  lot from when I was 8 years old to 8 to about 16.
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  I was pretty chubby and I used to get bullied a lot.
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  I got bullied a lot. And one of the ways that I think
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  I could defuse the bullies was by making them laugh.
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  So I was always that guy, but they would kick the shit out of
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  me, right? But then I would always get it.
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  And then I, I could see them laugh and eventually maybe the
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  bully, you know, a couple weeks later, put his arm around me in
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  the hallway. What's up, man?
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  How you doing? You know that that kind of
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  stuff. So I, I did that would be my
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  trauma. As far as my sister and I joke
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  about this a lot because I think her and I, like I had the best
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  parents. My sister's amazing, but they
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  had problems. My parents, you know, they would
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  get, they got divorced. They split up a couple times,
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  but I can't, I don't really remember.
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  My sister said I was clueless because I was.
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  I'd just watch TV and they'd be fighting another room.
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  But I never paid it. I didn't know.
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  Yeah, you just tuned it out. Yeah, but I don't, I don't think
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  I had any kind of trauma like that.
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  It was just mostly my own personal weight stuff.
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  I mean, same with me. I was telling you on when you
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  were on your podcast that I struggled with eating disorders
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  my whole life. That's because my brothers and
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  their friends would make fun of me for being chubby when I was.
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  They would. Oh, yeah.
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  But that's where it came all came from so.
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  You can relate to that. Oh yeah.
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  Oh yeah. I'd go with the Overeaters
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  Anonymous. I thought about going to that
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  it. Was brutal going there.
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  It was weird. When you were a kid or when you
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  were an. Adult.
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  I went when I was an adult because I was, I'm the kind of
• 16:36
  guy like I mean, I would throw if I throw something out of the
• 16:38
  freezer in the microwave and it's not, it's not ready, I
• 16:40
  still eat it. Like I would be like that too
• 16:42
  and. I would binge.
• 16:44
  I can binge like crazy. So finally somebody brought that
• 16:46
  up to me. So I went to an over eaters
• 16:47
  anonymous meeting and I remember I there was, I'd never seen
• 16:51
  anything like it was like 1215 of us in this room.
• 16:54
  And they were like, tell everyone to tell their story.
• 16:56
  And when it came to me, I was like explaining how I could go
• 16:59
  through the drive through Taco Bell and then I'd go right to
• 17:01
  McDonald's and then I'd go to Dairy Queen.
• 17:03
  And then I got this lecture from the guy running it that that's
• 17:06
  triggering people. And I shouldn't say that I'm
• 17:08
  like, but you're telling me to tell my story.
• 17:10
  And. It was such a weird song.
• 17:12
  I only went to one meeting and I was like but I I'm not.
• 17:15
  I don't think it helped me, but I just maybe I feel bad for the
• 17:18
  other people there. But it was very emotional.
• 17:20
  But I've had struggles with my weight in my entire life.
• 17:23
  I would say the last five years. I'm pretty happy with what I am
• 17:27
  where I am right now, you know? But I'm still, you know, look in
• 17:30
  the mirror and I see fat kid all the time.
• 17:32
  Oh God, yeah, me too. I mean, that was that was always
• 17:36
  my biggest addiction above all else.
• 17:37
  I'm like, don't, don't need drugs, don't need alcohol.
• 17:41
  Just give me the sugar, the carbs, give me the food.
• 17:43
  And it was always my coping mechanism for and you know, we
• 17:46
  didn't grow up with a lot of money.
• 17:47
  So like, I wasn't introduced to macros and healthy meat and
• 17:51
  healthy veggies. It was like pot pizza and
• 17:54
  Cheerios and, you know, fried doughnuts.
• 17:57
  My family was very low income. I mean I I don't know it until I
• 18:01
  look back at it. Like I remember my mom would
• 18:03
  make dinner sometime that she would make a tortilla with a
• 18:05
  slice of American cheese on top and ketchup.
• 18:08
  Like that was our dinner because that's all we can afford.
• 18:10
  But I loved it. I didn't know till later.
• 18:14
  The cheese crisps and all. All that stuff.
• 18:16
  Yeah, my brothers are six and eight years older than me, so I
• 18:20
  was little. And they, you know, they were
• 18:22
  like, adults to me. And they would have their
• 18:25
  friends over and they'd all be making fun of me.
• 18:26
  And he'd be, like, tip a cow and he'd throw me, you know, throw
• 18:29
  me to the floor. And yeah, yeah, it was brutal.
• 18:32
  And then he'd like grab my, you know, grab my rolls and twist
• 18:35
  them and like leave bruises all or grab my cheeks and like RIP
• 18:38
  my cheeks. It was my cheeks.
• 18:40
  All my whole life, since I was little, probably like forever.
• 18:44
  As long as I could, as long as I can remember, yeah.
• 18:47
  But I've done all the diets, I've done taking the diet pills,
• 18:50
  I've done everything I you could possibly do to.
• 18:53
  I mean, at one point I was 360 lbs.
• 18:56
  I'm about 250 right now. I should be about 2:30, which I
• 19:00
  hope I'm there probably by next week if the.
• 19:03
  Yeah, with the registry, I know. That's what I'm telling you.
• 19:06
  It's a it's a game changer. I just fear.
• 19:10
  Yeah, I mean, obviously I got better, better over time and
• 19:12
  started working out. I, I never was fat, you know, I
• 19:17
  was just, we were, all of us were chunky because we, we just
• 19:20
  weren't healthy kids. But I wasn't like I, I was like
• 19:22
  huge. But regardless, it was just the
• 19:25
  mental, the mental thing of feeling like, you know, looking
• 19:28
  in the mirror. And when I started starving
• 19:30
  myself when I was 15, I was 100 lbs and I thought I was fat
• 19:35
  because that's how messed up I was emotionally.
• 19:38
  And I would not be in a bikini. Like even at 100 lbs I was like,
• 19:41
  you're too fat to be seen. Yeah, wild that you could see
• 19:44
  that when you look at yourself in the mirror and you'd be, I
• 19:46
  mean, you had to have been bone thinned 100 lbs.
• 19:49
  I was, yeah. I didn't have.
• 19:50
  To see I was never bone thin. I still think I, I can't think
• 19:52
  of, you know, here's where it's really funny.
• 19:54
  When you look at a picture of back then and you thought you
• 19:56
  were fat. Like for me, if I look back, I
• 19:59
  was so fat back then. When I look at it now, I'm like
• 20:01
  damn, I look good. Right I.
• 20:02
  Know And I'm like, I can't believe I thought I was fat back
• 20:05
  then. That's what drives me nuts.
• 20:06
  Well, it's, it's a mental game and obviously you, you have, you
• 20:09
  know, you can be fat and, and some people are fat and they
• 20:13
  don't think they're fat, right, right.
• 20:14
  And so it's all kind of in your head.
• 20:16
  But when you have this body dysmorphia like I've had because
• 20:20
  of that, that trauma from, you know, growing up, it's hard to,
• 20:25
  to realistically be able to see. So you have like even today I
• 20:28
  have to ask people to tell me like, do I look normal?
• 20:33
  Because I I have dysmorphia. So when I do.
• 20:36
  You have someone tell you if you don't look, are they honest with
• 20:38
  you? Well, I try to like have my
• 20:40
  friend like my best friend. People that knew you back then,
• 20:43
  like they know what you or they know what you've been through.
• 20:45
  Oh, no, just now people that are close to me, I'm like, you gotta
• 20:47
  like tell me if I do too much with my face or like if my, you
• 20:50
  know, if I get lip filler and I look like a psychopath or if I
• 20:53
  look too skinny or too fat. Like you got to, you got to tell
• 20:56
  me these things because what? Do you have on your face besides
• 20:58
  lip filler is. That I have lip filler.
• 21:00
  Well, I'm, I haven't been to my appointment in a year because I
• 21:04
  work so much. I haven't had any time to
• 21:06
  schedule it and I'm always three months booked out.
• 21:08
  And so I haven't been back for a year.
• 21:09
  So like my, my filler's kind of gone.
• 21:13
  So I'm going tomorrow for my annual appointment for Botox
• 21:17
  'cause I'm starting to see like, you know, these little wrinkles.
• 21:19
  I'm almost 30 now. I got to maintain.
• 21:22
  I work with two women and Kyle on my show.
• 21:25
  Since she was 26 she's been getting Botox and whenever she
• 21:28
  starts to see it move here, she gets done again.
• 21:31
  Right. Look, it's starting.
• 21:32
  Yeah, Yeah. But no, I just have lip filler
• 21:35
  and Botox and I have a nose job and I have veneers.
• 21:39
  So like, that's why when people you, you called me on your radio
• 21:42
  show and and someone whoever was with you was like, Oh, you're
• 21:44
  really beautiful. I'm looking at your page and I'm
• 21:46
  like, I don't take credit for it.
• 21:48
  Like remember that Kylie Jenner, that Kylie Jenner meme from
• 21:52
  before you know, she had her fiddler and her all her things
• 21:55
  done did. The nose job hurt.
• 21:56
  No, I mean, it's like any surgery, you, you just get on
• 21:59
  painkillers and. I have sleep apnea, you know,
• 22:03
  and I and it's really bad and I had like a broken thing.
• 22:05
  Like they're legitimate how people get nose jobs.
• 22:07
  But like I'm fine with my nose, but they said I'd have to get,
• 22:10
  they have to break this open and do a nose job.
• 22:12
  And I'm like, someone told me it was so painful and like, forget
• 22:14
  it. I'll just wear a machine when I
• 22:15
  go to sleep. For me, I will go through any
• 22:19
  amount of pain to feel good in my own skin so I don't even
• 22:23
  think. About Do you feel good in your
• 22:24
  own skin? I do now.
• 22:25
  Yeah, I feel, I feel great. Like you like the nose job?
• 22:27
  You like veneers? When you say veneers, what did
• 22:29
  your teeth look like before? They weren't, I mean they
• 22:31
  weren't crooked, they just were smaller.
• 22:34
  And well, another thing from my brothers, they would say I had
• 22:36
  buck teeth growing up because you could kind of like squeeze
• 22:40
  and my tube front teeth came down a little bit and so you
• 22:43
  could squeeze them and so you could squeeze them.
• 22:45
  And so yeah, I just just traumatized.
• 22:48
  I had all these insecurities. And so but that's The thing is
• 22:50
  like, I don't promote the fakeness.
• 22:53
  People call. It's like fake.
• 22:54
  I'm like, OK, I'm an open book about everything I've had done.
• 22:56
  Like I have hair extensions, I'm a natural brunette.
• 22:59
  Like I, you know, I but I post pictures of what I look like
• 23:01
  before on my website, you know, so I'm not, I'm not hiding it.
• 23:03
  I'm not pretending to be. And that's part of my journeys.
• 23:05
  Like I was so insecure. I was suicidal at one point in
• 23:08
  my life. And so if you have to do certain
• 23:11
  things to feel better in your own skin and feel confident
• 23:15
  enough to show up in the world, then do it.
• 23:17
  Oh, I agree with you, do whatever, whatever makes you
• 23:19
  feel better. But it's funny, so, so many
• 23:21
  things you brought up that I have.
• 23:22
  I feel like I have this similar story.
• 23:23
  Like for my, I had a huge gap in my teeth right here, huge like
• 23:27
  David Letterman gap, you know, like like the girl from White
• 23:30
  Lotus Gap, you know what I'm talking about.
• 23:32
  And one time I was going to, I didn't have money and I was
• 23:34
  going to the dentist and I ripped an I ripped an ad out of
• 23:37
  the back of one of these newspapers to go to get a
• 23:39
  dentist cleaning. So when they get my teeth
• 23:41
  cleaned, I remember the guy goes, the dentist cleaned my
• 23:42
  teeth and he said, and people, my sister used to make fun of
• 23:45
  the gap in my teeth. My friends would make fun of the
• 23:46
  gap in my teeth always. And the dentist cleaning my
• 23:49
  teeth, He goes, I'll never forget this.
• 23:51
  He goes, if you ever get disgusted with your smile, he
• 23:55
  said, I can fix that. I was like, what do you mean?
• 23:58
  I know he goes, you really do this.
• 23:59
  So he puts temporary veneers over these two teeth, right?
• 24:02
  Because I have this huge gap. And I was like, OK, I'll check
• 24:05
  it out. And I met my wife, my girlfriend
• 24:08
  the next day. So she only knew me with no gap.
• 24:12
  So I was terrified that the veneer, the fake veneer was
• 24:16
  going to fall off. So eventually when you know I
• 24:18
  propose and we get married, I go to the dentist and I put the
• 24:22
  real veneers on. So I have 4 real veneers.
• 24:24
  They drill your teeth down in the nubs and they put them.
• 24:26
  So I've had these 4 veneers for 30 years.
• 24:29
  So she doesn't know me with my real teeth, but I'll show her
• 24:31
  pictures. Sometimes they pop up in my
• 24:33
  memories. I'm like, oh wow.
• 24:34
  But I kind of wish I, I wish I kept them 'cause now I feel
• 24:38
  secure. No, no, no, I'm OK with the gap
• 24:41
  because now all these people became famous with gaps in their
• 24:43
  teeth. Right.
• 24:44
  No, it, it's, it's crazy these things.
• 24:46
  And you know, this is all like the inner stuff that really,
• 24:50
  really drives us and shapes us to who we are.
• 24:52
  And people don't really talk about it that much, right?
• 24:54
  And so I like to talk about it because this is success that
• 24:58
  gets this stuff that ultimately creates who we become and what
• 25:01
  we do. And some of us, some people heal
• 25:05
  and become they, their, their mess becomes their message.
• 25:08
  And some people don't heal and they just use that pain to keep
• 25:11
  driving them. But they don't actually ever end
• 25:13
  up being happy and fulfilled. And they become successful with
• 25:16
  this root inside or they don't become successful and they
• 25:18
  become addicts or they just have mediocre lives and they don't
• 25:21
  ever go for their dreams because they're so insecure that they
• 25:24
  don't, they don't go for it. And so I just love to talk about
• 25:27
  these things because it is the rawness of humanity.
• 25:30
  And people get on, you know, people watch the show and like,
• 25:33
  oh, you're a millionaire. Oh, you have a radio show.
• 25:35
  Oh, you have all of these things, right?
• 25:37
  And then they think of their shame or their guilt or their
• 25:40
  not enoughness that that makes them stay stuck in whatever they
• 25:45
  are. That's not what they want to be.
• 25:47
  And it's really like those things are the greatest gift.
• 25:51
  Like all of those traumatic memories are the gift.
• 25:54
  That's where the message lies. And that's what when you look
• 25:58
  back like when I was literally thinking the other day of just
• 26:01
  like on my walk, I was like, God is so good.
• 26:03
  Because when I was going through those times, I was miserable.
• 26:06
  I was in so much pain and suffering and I hated God and
• 26:10
  hated life and hated everything, hated myself and didn't
• 26:13
  understand why any of it was. But then now I'm like, oh, all
• 26:18
  of that was the greatest gift I could have ever had.
• 26:20
  And that's why now I actually can have a purpose and can't
• 26:23
  have a mission and can't have so much love and empathy and joy in
• 26:26
  my life because I know what it's like.
• 26:27
  And I think if you don't go through that suffering, you
• 26:30
  really can't like really realize your potential and have
• 26:33
  gratitude for this life experience.
• 26:35
  So. You couldn't be where you are
• 26:36
  now if you wouldn't have had all.
• 26:37
  That yeah. Like what do you think for you?
• 26:40
  Well, yeah, I, I, but I, I mean, your, your stuff's a lot more
• 26:44
  traumatic than mine. That well.
• 26:45
  I. Mean.
• 26:46
  So Doctor Gabermate, another book guy I study, he I read his
• 26:52
  book called The Myth of Normal, and he says trauma comparison is
• 26:57
  the worst thing ever because there's no such thing as your
• 27:00
  trauma was worse than my trauma. Because he says you can, you can
• 27:03
  have, you know, a person that was raised in a trust fund
• 27:06
  family with everything and everything looks good on paper,
• 27:09
  but they could have the same pain.
• 27:11
  Because he says the primary root of all trauma, that opens the
• 27:15
  door for the bigger trauma that could be much bigger, right?
• 27:19
  Like someone may be raped and beaten and like have horrible,
• 27:23
  horrible trauma. And some people may never have
• 27:25
  experienced that. But the, the pain is the same.
• 27:28
  Because he said the primary trauma isn't that big stuff.
• 27:31
  The primary wound is not feeling seen, hurt or protected by
• 27:36
  someone in your family when you're a child.
• 27:38
  And like, that's the that's the wound and that's the primary
• 27:41
  pain. And that pain is the same for
• 27:43
  everyone. I feel like I've compared trauma
• 27:45
  before to try to make somebody feel better.
• 27:47
  Do you know what I mean? Like, hey, at least this look
• 27:48
  at, look at this side, this person had this, we had this.
• 27:51
  I know, and that's what he argues is.
• 27:54
  Is bad. Is bad because it doesn't.
• 27:56
  Just because someone experienced worse things than you doesn't
• 27:59
  mean that they have more pain than you.
• 28:00
  Right. Oh no, no, that's that's not
• 28:02
  good. It's fascinating.
• 28:03
  So you've done a lot of work on yourself.
• 28:05
  Yeah. Yeah, I've just done all my
• 28:07
  stuff has been like, I'm just working on winning and winning
• 28:11
  and being a best me and being successful and how can I manage
• 28:15
  people? What are the right things to
• 28:16
  say? How can I speed you?
• 28:17
  How do I put it out in the universe the right way?
• 28:19
  I've tried all kinds of different things and I don't.
• 28:22
  I try to stay away from being negative and just kind of drive
• 28:25
  and push and push and push. Have you ever felt like you
• 28:27
  would achieve something and then you would feel different when
• 28:30
  you achieve that thing and then you didn't?
• 28:33
  Yeah, because I always wanted, I always feel like my partner Rich
• 28:36
  and I have worked so hard on this radio show and we've hit
• 28:40
  certain milestones that we had to do it more with more grit
• 28:45
  than most people. And, and everybody has their own
• 28:48
  path, everyone has their own story.
• 28:50
  But I always, I, I feel like, like, let's say syndication, we
• 28:52
  wanted to be our, we want our show to be syndicated so badly.
• 28:55
  What does that mean? That means like, so we were at
• 28:57
  one point we were based in Tucson and we wanted to be on in
• 29:00
  Tucson and Phoenix and we worked so hard to be on it.
• 29:03
  We wanted to be Arizona's morning show was our pitch,
• 29:05
  right. So let's just get Phoenix and
• 29:07
  once we get Phoenix, I said then, then we'll be Arizona's
• 29:10
  morning show and then we get Yuma and Flagstaff, we go.
• 29:13
  So we worked so hard to get it. And when it happened, it was so
• 29:17
  like uneventful that it just happened.
• 29:20
  And I look back and I'm like, wait a minute, we, we, we did
• 29:23
  that. And then, and then we picked up
• 29:25
  randomly Colorado and then we picked up Oregon and, and it was
• 29:29
  we had to fight for those cities, whereas other shows
• 29:33
  sometimes also they get put on a 25 markets in one day.
• 29:36
  And we were like, we would get one market here, then we get San
• 29:39
  Diego, then we got Denver, then we lose San Diego, then we lose
• 29:42
  Vegas. And it's like, how come these
• 29:44
  other guys just get 50 stations at one time?
• 29:48
  And we are like duct taping things to make things happen.
• 29:51
  So after when I look back and I'm like, wow, we, we've been on
• 29:54
  the air 25 years and we have all this.
• 29:56
  I don't remember there ever being a yeah, yeah, we did.
• 30:02
  You know what I mean? We're just there, which is
• 30:04
  there. That hasn't happened yet, you
• 30:06
  know. That's it.
• 30:08
  That's everything. The the destination never comes.
• 30:11
  Yeah, I think that's it. Like I'm still hoping like we
• 30:14
  just signed the new five year deal, right.
• 30:15
  So we got five years and, and, and I love what I do.
• 30:19
  So I could do a 10 year deal, but in these next five years,
• 30:22
  I'm hoping that one of those things happens where they're
• 30:25
  going to go. We're putting you guys on in 25
• 30:27
  cities tomorrow. But at the same time, that's not
• 30:29
  where technology is going. It's all in an app now.
• 30:32
  Like you could look like I was telling you, you we have 300,000
• 30:35
  people listen to us in LA every day.
• 30:36
  So it's like we don't really need to be on those cities, but
• 30:39
  that's where ego comes. And that's why you got to, you
• 30:41
  kind of got to check your ego a little bit, you know?
• 30:44
  And, and so I got to go. It doesn't matter if I'm didn't
• 30:46
  get Salt Lake City because I had people listening to us on the
• 30:49
  app in Salt Lake City, right? But not a physical radio
• 30:52
  station. That's why I have to let that
• 30:53
  go. Yeah, no, that that was the same
• 30:55
  thing for me as I always thought.
• 30:57
  Like, you know Dan Sullivan, do you know him?
• 31:00
  Have you read his books? Is he a Olympian?
• 31:02
  No, he's an entrepreneur, coach or author.
• 31:05
  Yeah, so some of his books are. Ben Hardy wrote them.
• 31:10
  But it's Dan Sullivan's teachings.
• 31:11
  Who? Not how.
• 31:12
  And 10X is easier than two X in the gap in the game.
• 31:14
  No, never heard of them. I know Dan Sullivan, The
• 31:17
  Olympian. OK, I don't know who that is.
• 31:19
  I don't follow sports. But he says entrepreneurs are
• 31:24
  very good at being here and wanting to be here there, right?
• 31:29
  Like, they're very, very good at being here and wanting to be
• 31:31
  there. And then every time you get
• 31:32
  there, then the goal post moves and all the sudden you're here
• 31:35
  and you want to be there, boy. That's good.
• 31:37
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 31:38
  That's how every morning I have my rituals.
• 31:40
  And one of them is, you know, I manifest, I write things down, I
• 31:43
  put things out in the universe and I keep going over what I'm
• 31:46
  grateful for. And my I'm just so grateful for
• 31:48
  what I have. Right.
• 31:50
  I am. And.
• 31:50
  And I don't want to be selfish and want more, but I do want
• 31:54
  more, you know? Like I feel like it's wrong to
• 31:57
  want more, but I'm really happy with what I'm grateful for what
• 31:59
  I have. Well, that's the key, is
• 32:00
  gratitude is everything. And that's the prison that I
• 32:03
  think so many of us high achievers live in is we're
• 32:08
  always wanting to be where we're not.
• 32:10
  And the trap is when you think that getting somewhere where
• 32:15
  you're not is going to make you feel differently inside because
• 32:20
  if you keep setting goals, you all know when you hit that goal.
• 32:24
  And and Tim Grover talks about this in his book Relentless.
• 32:26
  He was the coach for Kobe Bryant and all.
• 32:28
  Right. So you do know sports.
• 32:29
  And I have that book. I've read that book.
• 32:31
  You know him. Yeah.
• 32:33
  You know what? I did, yeah.
• 32:34
  I I DM Ed before and he DM me back I got so excited.
• 32:37
  He's amazing. I love his book.
• 32:38
  Yeah. But have you met him face to
• 32:39
  face? I have a picture with him.
• 32:41
  Oh wow, he's awesome. I mean, I'm not like friends
• 32:43
  with him. I wish, but I I had a whole
• 32:45
  event with him and I got to have like lunch in the area and have
• 32:47
  a picture with him and get a signed book.
• 32:49
  I have a signed book, but that book was my favorite book.
• 32:52
  I read it when I was 18 and I remember I read it when I got my
• 32:55
  first real estate Commission check and I had that feeling.
• 32:58
  He talks about the feeling of when a true champion wins a game
• 33:04
  that he would coach. They usually feel this dopamine
• 33:09
  hit in this high, like all alone.
• 33:11
  They usually celebrate alone, like they're not out partying,
• 33:14
  they're not doing this. They usually feel this rush
• 33:16
  alone and it's very, very temporary.
• 33:19
  And then it's immediately followed by usually anxiety and
• 33:23
  like, Oh my gosh, now what? Now I got to push more.
• 33:26
  I got to go, I got to train harder.
• 33:28
  I got to hit the next thing. And so they're living in this
• 33:30
  perpetual state of I'm not there and they don't actually.
• 33:35
  It's a very lonely life and a very lonely you, you sacrifice a
• 33:40
  lot, like true champions or or sacrifice a lot.
• 33:43
  And they, they generally have this insatiable hunger to
• 33:46
  continue to be somewhere that they're not.
• 33:48
  And they just keep pushing and driving.
• 33:50
  And so I noticed this when I went to a mastermind and someone
• 33:54
  was speaking called the life, a topic called the life after the
• 33:57
  exit. And so you know me, I became a
• 33:59
  millionaire by 25, which little Hannah thought that once I
• 34:03
  become a millionaire, I'm going to be happy.
• 34:05
  I'm going to love myself, I'm going to have amazing friends
• 34:08
  and this amazing life. Well, then I got to 25, got
• 34:11
  became a millionaire and I was like, I did it.
• 34:14
  And I'm like, now what? Like I don't feel any different
• 34:16
  inside. OK, so now I just must need to
• 34:18
  have 10 million. Like that's the easiest thing to
• 34:20
  do is just move the goal post, right?
• 34:22
  But then what I realized is I'm just going to perpetuate my
• 34:26
  suffering forever because it never comes.
• 34:29
  The destination never comes. Like this feeling I'm searching
• 34:31
  for never comes. And in this life after the exit,
• 34:34
  these, these entrepreneurs had sold their, it was tech
• 34:37
  companies, they'd sold for, you know, tens, 20s, hundreds of
• 34:42
  millions of dollars. And almost everybody was lost,
• 34:45
  depressed, like didn't know their purpose, didn't know their
• 34:48
  anxiety, didn't know what to do next in their lives.
• 34:51
  Because their whole life they had just kept pushing for more
• 34:54
  and more and more and they didn't actually enjoy any of the
• 34:56
  journey. And so, so I love that.
• 34:59
  That's why a big part of my message is you have to enjoy the
• 35:02
  journey and be grateful for where you are now and live in
• 35:06
  the gain, not the gap, because we live in this gap of here I
• 35:10
  am, I want to be there. Why am I not here?
• 35:13
  And so you live in this like perpetual state of misery and
• 35:15
  discomfort. But if you instead measure up
• 35:18
  against where you came from, here I am, I want to be there.
• 35:21
  That's great. Let's shoot for the moon.
• 35:23
  But I came from here and I'm so freaking proud of where I've
• 35:25
  come from. And I, I love this journey and I
• 35:28
  love today and I'm not missing anything.
• 35:29
  And like this thing that I'm going for is coming out of a
• 35:32
  place of abundance and love of what I do and what I, the impact
• 35:35
  I want to have. And like, that's so important
• 35:37
  because you said that like I love where I am.
• 35:40
  I still want more and that's OK. But as long as you're not
• 35:43
  suffering in the journey. Absolutely happy in every aspect
• 35:47
  of my life right now. But it's funny, the life after
• 35:49
  the exit thing there everybody, a few people I know in my life
• 35:53
  that have exited with nice paychecks, eventually start
• 35:57
  something else. Of course, like I just had this
• 36:00
  conversation with my buddy. He he just sold, he made-up a
• 36:04
  billion and and now he's trying to do the next thing and he
• 36:09
  goes, yeah, you know, you relax for a year or two and you do
• 36:11
  something. But there's that drive to do
• 36:13
  something else. And they made me think of that
• 36:15
  guy. You're you're that Brian Johnson
• 36:16
  guy who's trying to live to be 500 years old.
• 36:18
  You don't know that guy. Oh yeah, no, the the, yeah, the
• 36:21
  guy. He's alive right now.
• 36:22
  Like the the kind of reddish brown hair.
• 36:24
  He had, I think he created PayPal or Venmo or something.
• 36:28
  He sold it for a couple 2 billion.
• 36:30
  So he's spending all this now. Now he's doing he's selling
• 36:33
  supplements he's selling and I buy it all 'cause I thought that
• 36:37
  oh, he has 2 billion that he's doing this for real like this is
• 36:42
  this stuff, these products must be good.
• 36:44
  And then I found out no, he's. Making money, making money.
• 36:48
  I don't know if they're good buy I buy, I buy all this stuff,
• 36:51
  but. Yeah, no, it's you can't.
• 36:53
  You can't, I don't know. You can't take the beast out of
• 36:56
  the lion. You know, it's like a lion's
• 36:59
  always going to be a lion, no matter how.
• 37:01
  True, I'm trying. I feel like I'm a lion, but I'm
• 37:03
  also like calming down lion. Like I'm, I'm trying to
• 37:07
  experience life a little bit more, you know, and I'm at this
• 37:10
  certain place in my life and my career where back in the day I
• 37:15
  couldn't, I, I, I didn't want to take vacation.
• 37:17
  I would just work. I would just do the, I wanted to
• 37:19
  do the radio show nonstop. And then technology came up.
• 37:22
  Well, you can do the show from here.
• 37:23
  You can do the show from there. And I still didn't do it.
• 37:25
  I would do the show for a month in San Diego, you know, my part
• 37:27
  in San Diego. And, and now I'm like, well, I
• 37:30
  don't want to do it, but the technology's so good that I can
• 37:32
  actually do the show from anywhere.
• 37:34
  I can't tell, right? So I'm loosening up a little
• 37:37
  bit. We're doing a lot more traveling
• 37:39
  and stuff and plus with my kids a little bit older, but I want
• 37:41
  to get back to Tim Grover real quick.
• 37:42
  What what I remember with Tim Grover, I was very much into him
• 37:47
  and there was something that bothered me about him.
• 37:49
  I forget. What are the three things that
• 37:50
  you are? There's your killer, your Do you
• 37:52
  remember what they? Are, Oh yeah, shoot cleaner.
• 37:55
  Cleaner. I didn't like those names and I
• 37:59
  wanted to change those names, but because I remember I would
• 38:02
  have my son read the book and we would drive and do everything it
• 38:06
  was in the book. But those names, those this
• 38:08
  never worked for me. I thought he could have come up
• 38:10
  with better. I agree the the names were were
• 38:13
  odd, but the principles were still good.
• 38:15
  Over these. And I also, I remember
• 38:17
  specifically remember how we talked about, yeah, the cleaner
• 38:19
  was the top 1 and I was just like, that doesn't sound good.
• 38:23
  No, I'm a cleaner. Cleaner, I think that, you know,
• 38:25
  you're cleaning, you know, closer maybe would be better
• 38:28
  because of closing deals. Yeah.
• 38:31
  And I always thought if I ever got to interview him, if I could
• 38:32
  tell him that if you get mad. But he's tough, too.
• 38:36
  But he had a great story, too. I I remember his book, too.
• 38:38
  Like, I think you know where where he came from, the Middle
• 38:41
  East and his dad. We were carrying the suitcases
• 38:43
  on the street and the taxi cab dropped them off and they didn't
• 38:46
  have any money. Great story, though.
• 38:47
  Yeah. Michael Jordan's trainer.
• 38:49
  The Tim Grovers of the world, the David Goggins of the world,
• 38:52
  right? They're just suffer like just
• 38:55
  keep suffering, keep going, don't be a little bitch, right?
• 38:57
  And they which I stopped cussing this year, but just to prove
• 39:00
  point of how they how they act. And I'm like, yes, you have to
• 39:04
  work really, really hard and suffering is a part of success
• 39:08
  and winning. But I'm trying to shift my life
• 39:12
  to why can't we win and actually enjoy it?
• 39:15
  Like why can't we create amazing big things and be the best we
• 39:19
  can be and be a champion and actually love it.
• 39:22
  And so that's, that's what I'm shifting to it.
• 39:24
  Was no cussing a New Year's resolution or what?
• 39:26
  What made you want to stop cussing?
• 39:27
  Yeah, you know my videographer, he doesn't cuss at all.
• 39:31
  And my best friend doesn't cuss at all.
• 39:32
  And I noticed that. I noticed that.
• 39:34
  I cussed non-stop. I got to be in front of a pastor
• 39:38
  like F this and F that and that because that's just how I was
• 39:41
  raised. I didn't even notice I was doing
• 39:42
  it. And so he told me that it's just
• 39:44
  another form of discipline, like to be able to control the words
• 39:47
  that are coming out of your mouth.
• 39:48
  I'm like, as I'm being on a podcast and speaking and
• 39:51
  selling, I really want the level of discipline to choose and be
• 39:55
  conscious of the words coming out of my mouth.
• 39:56
  And I was unconsciously cussing. So it's like, if I want to cuss
• 40:00
  like I just did, I wanted to say that because I was proving a
• 40:03
  point, but I don't want to unconsciously.
• 40:06
  Say things that I'm not even choosing to say.
• 40:08
  That makes sense. But I saw this interview with
• 40:09
  Tony Robbins, he started cussing out of nowhere, right?
• 40:13
  And it went in his speeches and stuff.
• 40:14
  Because I've, I've been following him since I was 18
• 40:16
  years old and I saw this interview where he said
• 40:18
  sometimes dropping the F bomb makes it more powerful and
• 40:21
  really cuts through. So I always I always.
• 40:24
  Thought, but it's intentional. Right.
• 40:25
  You're right, it's intentional. Right.
• 40:26
  Yeah, so I get that. Yeah.
• 40:28
  So for me right now, I'm just reprogramming my brain to
• 40:31
  actually have the awareness of every word that I'm saying so I
• 40:34
  can be intentional about every word that I'm saying.
• 40:36
  That's great. So I I will cuss to use a point
• 40:39
  or to make an impact if needed. But yeah, that's why.
• 40:43
  So what what we're like because you, you, I want to talk about
• 40:47
  your foundations because you were texting with Kurt Warner.
• 40:49
  Oh. Yeah, right.
• 40:50
  Yeah, that's how that's how it started.
• 40:52
  Just talk about that. So my wife and I were going to
• 40:56
  church with Kurt and his wife. We would go to see this guy was
• 40:59
  telling you about Terry, Chris and that one of the speakers of
• 41:03
  the church was coming from Colorado and he had it
• 41:07
  eliminated the foster care situation in Colorado.
• 41:10
  There were no kids in foster care in Colorado.
• 41:12
  It's like, how can we do that? So it was like we're pitching
• 41:15
  empty nesters. If you have an empty room, you
• 41:17
  know, adopt, you know, bring a kid in and foster a kid.
• 41:19
  So we had started this foundation.
• 41:23
  My partner Rich and I, We were helping kids out all year long.
• 41:27
  We were doing Christmas. We'd come into their house and
• 41:29
  give them everything they needed.
• 41:31
  And then so Kurt was my son Kemp, my middle son, Kemp's
• 41:36
  football coach and Kurt, you know, Super Bowl champion and
• 41:39
  all that. And so Kurt was gone doing an
• 41:41
  NFL something for the NFL. And he was texting me saying,
• 41:44
  how's what's going on with the game?
• 41:45
  Give me updates on the game. And so I was texting, I said,
• 41:49
  oh, Elijah, his son just threw a bomb to Kemp, my son sort of
• 41:53
  touchdown. Game over.
• 41:53
  We went. And he texts back, he goes love
• 41:57
  up. And then he goes, oops.
• 41:58
  He goes, I mean love. It is what he meant to say was a
• 42:00
  typo. And I was just staring at it and
• 42:02
  I was like, you know, I said you should use love up because he
• 42:06
  has a foundation where he'd helps people.
• 42:08
  I go and I wanted to give him I go.
• 42:10
  You could you could use this for your foundation.
• 42:12
  Why don't you say love up can be like, you know, like pay forward
• 42:17
  or take time out of your day and just love up or just think about
• 42:21
  whatever you believe in God, the universe, Muhammad or Buddha and
• 42:24
  just kind of love up once a day. And he said back he goes, LOL.
• 42:28
  And this is on a Saturday and I couldn't stop thinking about it.
• 42:31
  And so I was like, well, if he's not going to use it, I'm going
• 42:33
  to use it. So on Monday on the air, I
• 42:36
  brought this story up on the air on Tuesday.
• 42:39
  I was like, hashtag love up. This guy comes in and he brought
• 42:42
  a T-shirt. It was a Gray T-shirt.
• 42:44
  I still have it and had red words, hashtag love up on it.
• 42:47
  And I put the T-shirt on and took a picture and I put it on
• 42:49
  Instagram. I'm like, hey, look at this.
• 42:50
  I was talking about love up. Do something nice for somebody
• 42:52
  today, you know, buy their coffee at Starbucks, you know,
• 42:55
  pay for it, right? So about a month later, the guy
• 42:59
  comes to the radio station and he has a check for me for like
• 43:03
  $25,000. I was like, what is this?
• 43:06
  And he goes, that's your cut of all the shirts I sold.
• 43:08
  I was like, what the hell? And he goes, yeah, man, I was
• 43:11
  like, Oh my God. So I started doing, we started
• 43:14
  doing more. We started selling like crazy.
• 43:16
  And then Blake, my wife, was like, remember that service he
• 43:19
  went to about foster care? Why don't we take this
• 43:21
  foundation love up and skew it to help kids in foster care in
• 43:25
  Arizona? So we, that's what we've been
• 43:27
  doing now for over 10 years. Yeah, for over 10 years.
• 43:30
  So what we do is the start of the Christmas.
• 43:33
  We help kids at Christmas that are in foster care.
• 43:35
  We try to give them a great present.
• 43:37
  We throw, I mean, we come into their house and we upgrade
• 43:39
  everything we could possibly do. We give every kid as much as we
• 43:42
  can. We pay for electricity, we pay
• 43:44
  for food. We, if the parents are, if the,
• 43:47
  the foster parents don't have beds, we get them beds and we
• 43:50
  have a huge Christmas party for like 500 kids.
• 43:52
  We shop for every kid for everything they want.
• 43:55
  We put, we put all these toys that we have buffets of food,
• 43:58
  Santa, Missus Claus. We do this whole thing for all
• 44:01
  these kids in Arizona foster care.
• 44:03
  Then let's go to the end of the year.
• 44:04
  Kids when they age out, when you're 18 in foster care, they
• 44:07
  say see you later. So we try to get all the kids
• 44:09
  that are aging out and graduating and we have a huge
• 44:12
  graduation party and we have guest speakers.
• 44:13
  We'd love to have you as a guest speaker sometime.
• 44:16
  They love to laptops, computers, backpacks with stuff with to set
• 44:20
  them up for their future. We did have a couple programs
• 44:23
  with a couple business like Sam Fox.
• 44:25
  We had, we had kids going to work for him to work.
• 44:28
  They had jobs. We had all kinds of programs
• 44:30
  like that. And then we do stuff throughout
• 44:32
  the year. We try to get the, you know, I
• 44:34
  guess if there's a statistic like 7 out of 10 kids in prison,
• 44:37
  we're in the foster care system. And a lot of times when a kid
• 44:40
  sees a cop in foster, like a kid in foster care sees a cop, they
• 44:44
  take off running. So we started programs.
• 44:46
  We call it fun with the fuzz. So we had these kids in foster
• 44:49
  care meet the police, talk to the police, go to lunch with the
• 44:51
  police, kind of get to know the police.
• 44:53
  That's that foundation. The other foundation is Love
• 44:56
  Pomp. That's our dog rescue.
• 44:59
  Now that started after one of our somebody in our neighborhood
• 45:01
  found a dog and called me while I was on the air.
• 45:04
  And I was like, and they said, we found this Chihuahua.
• 45:06
  It's by your elementary school your kids go to.
• 45:07
  And I said to Blake, can you pick up that dog?
• 45:09
  And she sent me a picture and I posted it and I had these people
• 45:12
  say Hey, we'd love that dog. Oi went to go meet them at the
• 45:15
  bank. I was like, meet me at this bank
• 45:17
  arking lot and I'll give you the dog.
• 45:19
  And when I gave the dog to these people, the joy from the dog and
• 45:25
  the people, they were so at a level 10, I was like, what the
• 45:29
  heck? This is magic.
• 45:30
  There's something about this. I brought that up on the air the
• 45:32
  next day. And then it was like, can you
• 45:35
  help me? My mom's going to go folks home
• 45:36
  and she can't take this dog. Hey, there's a stray dog in this
• 45:39
  apartment complex. And I started bringing in dogs,
• 45:41
  and I was flipping dogs. And that's before I knew all the
• 45:45
  rules, right? Like, I broke so many rules.
• 45:48
  Not knowing it now, since then, you know, my wife has studied
• 45:52
  all this and we've, we had at 1.35 dogs in our house.
• 45:56
  It was chaos. My kids received with two or
• 45:59
  three dogs. We had a dog have 18 puppies in
• 46:01
  the laundry room. We had, we had it was chaos.
• 46:04
  Since then we had people donated, we had different
• 46:07
  corporations donate and we were able to get a brick and mortar
• 46:10
  and we had this beautiful shelter we got and it's, you
• 46:12
  know, different sponsors and now we know all the rules.
• 46:16
  And then People magazine did a story on us and we've, it's been
• 46:19
  a, it's been quite a ride. And now we've got different
• 46:21
  programs to that shelter, too. I love it.
• 46:24
  I want to. I really have, you know, being a
• 46:27
  kid that just wanted love and mentorship and guidance and all
• 46:31
  of that growing up and didn't feel like I had that in my
• 46:35
  household. That that big part of my mission
• 46:36
  is to help underprivileged children and just teach them
• 46:40
  financial intelligence and emotional intelligence and give
• 46:42
  them love and people that they can really look up to that are
• 46:45
  good people. And so I want to get involved in
• 46:47
  your foundation. That'd be great.
• 46:49
  I would love that because I've been looking for one to align to
• 46:52
  align with because I want, you know, percentage of all my
• 46:54
  company profits to go to causes that I am passionate about.
• 46:58
  And then also my whole team, like they all have different
• 47:00
  purposes and causes based on their life experiences.
• 47:03
  But that's one that I haven't really found a great
• 47:06
  organization to align with yet. And I have a friend, her name is
• 47:11
  Catherine Bell. She's in the capital raising
• 47:13
  world. She was a foster care child and
• 47:16
  she adopted twins from foster care as well.
• 47:20
  And so she's big into that. I'm not sure which organization
• 47:24
  she's a part of, but I want to get involved with her too.
• 47:26
  But she told me the story because you just mentioned when
• 47:29
  they turn 18, you know, they're just giving up.
• 47:32
  And she's like, she was talking to me.
• 47:33
  We had lunch. She goes, do you know what they
• 47:34
  call those kids? I was like, what?
• 47:37
  She said like black trash bag babies.
• 47:40
  Yeah. I was like, why?
• 47:42
  She goes well, 'cause you turn 18 and they give you a black
• 47:44
  trash bag full of your stuff and say good luck.
• 47:46
  That's. Exactly.
• 47:48
  What they do and they, I think she said some crazy statistic.
• 47:50
  I'm don't remember like 70% or something of homelessness comes
• 47:54
  from foster children. And so I really have a deep
• 47:58
  heart for that. And I, I saw a motivational
• 48:01
  speaker at one of the masterminds I'm in and she was
• 48:06
  shared her story. You know, she's a a black woman
• 48:08
  in America that was sold by her mother for drugs into
• 48:15
  trafficking as a child and like and overcame all of this stuff
• 48:20
  and now has been to the White House and is running these big
• 48:24
  affordable housing community development projects.
• 48:26
  And like is this huge success story.
• 48:28
  So it's just, you know, again, the pain is the purpose, the
• 48:33
  mess is the message. And if we can get in there and
• 48:36
  provide the right support and the right mentorship and the
• 48:39
  right love for these kids, those kids can go on to become the
• 48:42
  greatest impact makers out there if they just have that right.
• 48:46
  That's what we do. We try to chase the impact.
• 48:48
  I mean, we got some great kids that have gone off in the
• 48:50
  military and some have become pilots.
• 48:53
  We've met. We some kids have come back to
• 48:54
  us. I there's a guy that went, well,
• 48:58
  I didn't know this at the time, but he, he went to the radio
• 49:00
  station and he wanted to do some advertising with us.
• 49:02
  So why let's do the commercials and like, what product is this?
• 49:05
  And he's like, he told me the product.
• 49:06
  He's like, yeah, you know, back in the day when I was a little
• 49:10
  kid, because you guys came into my house and you blessed us with
• 49:14
  a Christmas wish. And now the dude has got like
• 49:18
  3,000,000 followers on Instagram.
• 49:20
  He's got all these different companies.
• 49:22
  He's traveling around the world. He says if you guys wouldn't
• 49:24
  have done that, I wouldn't have been this.
• 49:26
  So he was the recipient of a John Jane Rich Christmas wish.
• 49:29
  That's his name is Josh. Josh Snow.
• 49:31
  You ever heard of him? He's big time.
• 49:33
  He's all over Instagram. Yeah, the teeth whitening.
• 49:36
  Yeah, that's him. Yes, that's insane.
• 49:38
  Yeah. That is wild.
• 49:41
  Yeah. Oh my gosh, he's huge and.
• 49:43
  I should interview him in here. Yeah, he should.
• 49:47
  The the Tony Robbins was the same thing, you know, the person
• 49:50
  that dropped off the meal on Thanksgiving.
• 49:52
  And so it's like, and those people who they had the people
• 49:56
  who make the greatest change are the ones that went through that.
• 49:59
  Like they experience something and that's why they have such a
• 50:00
  big passion for it. And they can go and then they'll
• 50:02
  actually be listened to from people that are experiencing
• 50:04
  those things. What, what?
• 50:06
  What got you you and Blake passionate about the foster
• 50:10
  system? Well, we've had quite a story.
• 50:15
  You know, her and I, we, we got married, we tried to get
• 50:18
  pregnant. We couldn't get pregnant for the
• 50:20
  longest time. We eventually got, she got
• 50:23
  pregnant with twins. We had twin girls and on
• 50:27
  Valentine's Day on the year 2000, they, they didn't survive.
• 50:32
  They were born in 28 weeks. And so we couldn't get pregnant
• 50:35
  for a long time. So we, we went the, we went
• 50:38
  through many different routes. So we have three kids, One of
• 50:43
  them is adopted, 2 of them are through infertility.
• 50:47
  Like her sister carried our second kid, which it's my sperm
• 50:53
  and her egg, but her sister carried them first.
• 50:56
  And then after a couple years, you know, they did some tests on
• 50:59
  my wife and she was able to carry a baby.
• 51:02
  So she carried our other son, which is weird.
• 51:04
  Which is weird because he is the twin of our second son and
• 51:08
  they're three years apart. Oh, because the the IVF.
• 51:11
  Or yeah, so that was a big thing for us is to to, to, to help as
• 51:17
  many kids as we can in foster care and adoption.
• 51:19
  Big fans of that. How was that like?
• 51:22
  How did you guys get through that?
• 51:24
  Which part the the death? Yeah.
• 51:27
  The therapy, lots of therapy, lots of, I mean, it's still
• 51:31
  emotional every every Valentine's Day, right?
• 51:34
  Right. Yeah, Yeah.
• 51:36
  So it was it's it's pretty, it was pretty tough.
• 51:37
  We've had some some struggles, but now it's wonderful.
• 51:41
  You know, it's kind of like what we were talking about.
• 51:43
  Like if we would have gone through that, we would have
• 51:45
  these three boys that we live for right now.
• 51:47
  Like, I mean, these three boys are, are incredible gifts.
• 51:51
  All three of them. They're fantastic.
• 51:53
  Best, best thing we've ever done.
• 51:55
  I'm, I'm one of things when I always tell you about every
• 51:58
  morning, I tell you about what I'm grateful that I have.
• 52:00
  I specifically, specifically pray to God and thank God for
• 52:06
  those three boys and for her, for my wife every day.
• 52:09
  I do. And I write it down.
• 52:10
  I write it down and then I say it out loud because I want to
• 52:13
  make sure that I'm clear that so they don't take them away from
• 52:15
  me. Yeah.
• 52:17
  Yeah. And do you, you know, with me
• 52:19
  saying all this stuff of like your, your suffering is your
• 52:22
  gift and and, and your suffering and pain lies your greatest gift
• 52:27
  and your your greatest message. That can be easy to say for some
• 52:30
  people. But some people who have been
• 52:31
  through such a loss like that, you know, losing carrying your
• 52:35
  children and losing your children maybe wouldn't agree
• 52:39
  with that and and not understand that.
• 52:41
  Do you feel like you have resistance towards that or do
• 52:45
  you feel like that it's happened for a reason and and?
• 52:48
  I feel like it happened for a reason.
• 52:50
  I feel, I feel like, you know, like again, I, I personally am
• 52:55
  so happy with my family unit. I can't imagine it any other
• 52:59
  way. Like it's exactly, it's the
• 53:02
  dream family for me. So I'm very happy for whatever I
• 53:05
  had to go through. Now I don't have to sit there
• 53:06
  and I can lock it up, you know, I can lock up that.
• 53:08
  I don't know if you do that, I can lock up a little tragedy,
• 53:10
  put it away and just move forward.
• 53:12
  I know that my wife can't do that.
• 53:13
  Stuff I can do easily. I don't know if it's a guy thing
• 53:16
  or a girl thing, but I'm just like, all right, I don't need to
• 53:18
  worry about that. And I just focus on the
• 53:20
  positive, focus on the future, focus on the now.
• 53:22
  Try to be present, try to be where my feet are.
• 53:25
  As she says, be where your feet are and and I move on.
• 53:28
  Yeah, you know. I do that too.
• 53:30
  I lock it up very easily. Oh, you do.
• 53:32
  Oh yeah. I have to really work hard to
• 53:35
  tap into my emotions. Yeah, I'm like that too.
• 53:38
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 53:39
  I, I'm trying to learn empathy. Yeah.
• 53:43
  Yeah, right. It's like get it together, suck
• 53:45
  it up, move on. But you're you're OK.
• 53:48
  But but I think that's also you just like you said with their
• 53:51
  parents yelling growing up. But it's just the the brain
• 53:54
  shuts it off. That's probably.
• 53:55
  What happened to me, right, Because my sister was like,
• 53:56
  don't you remember? I'm like, my sister is younger
• 53:59
  than me. I was like, no, I don't remember
• 54:00
  that. And she was like, you know, my
• 54:02
  mom and dad would fight over stuff.
• 54:03
  Then my dad kicked us all out of the house.
• 54:06
  I'm like, what? I mean, I remember we lived in
• 54:08
  LA. We lived in an apartment.
• 54:09
  But yeah, right now you're unlocking all these memories.
• 54:13
  You're right. My childhood sucked.
• 54:14
  Yeah, I know, I know. You're like, I had a great
• 54:17
  childhood. I love her.
• 54:19
  No, it's crazy because that health guy, I was just watching
• 54:23
  the All In podcast. Do you watch that?
• 54:25
  Boy, that sound familiar? Who's all?
• 54:26
  Who's that? Who hosts?
• 54:27
  All in some some billionaire guys and David Sachs from the
• 54:31
  White House. Three guys, Three guys, right?
• 54:34
  Yeah. One of them is the tech guy.
• 54:36
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, OK.
• 54:38
  Yeah, but I was watching that podcast this morning and the the
• 54:40
  health guy, what's his name? I don't.
• 54:42
  I I know exactly what you're talking about.
• 54:44
  Yeah, I've had a couple people tell me about it and I looked it
• 54:46
  up, but I've never listened to the whole thing.
• 54:48
  It's good. It's just nice.
• 54:49
  It's like macro what's going on in the world and just keep your
• 54:53
  because I don't watch the news so I can keep my finger on the
• 54:55
  pulse and they have a, a, a logical viewpoint of everything
• 54:59
  so I can actually. Trust.
• 55:00
  Is it a daily podcast? No, once a week, yeah, but he
• 55:03
  had the the longevity guy on there and he said he just did
• 55:07
  5MEOD Mt. Have you heard of that?
• 55:12
  He did 5 it's called. It's called 5MEOG MDMT.
• 55:17
  It's it's basically excretion from a toad, a poisonous toad.
• 55:23
  And it's a it's the strongest psychedelic in the world.
• 55:28
  Was it the Brian Johnson guy? Is that who he?
• 55:30
  Asked Brian Johnson. That's what, Yeah.
• 55:33
  But anyway, apparently he did it for longevity and hell.
• 55:36
  I saw him, is that where he posted Instagram where he was
• 55:38
  lining a blanket? Yeah, apparently he did it live
• 55:40
  I. Didn't know what he was.
• 55:41
  I was like, what's he talking about?
• 55:42
  He did something that was like the most and like, I think it
• 55:45
  was awful for him, wasn't it? Or I thought it was or it was
• 55:48
  like he was scared. He was something.
• 55:50
  Well, yeah, I was watching the podcast.
• 55:52
  I didn't finish it, but he said it was the most, you can't
• 55:54
  really explain it and but he said it was the most, I don't
• 55:58
  know, visceral like you just you're pure consciousness, but
• 56:03
  you lose, you have a whole death of the ego.
• 56:05
  So you, you're it's a full out of body experience.
• 56:08
  I don't know how. I don't like drugs.
• 56:10
  Yeah. You know, earlier you were
• 56:12
  talking about weed and stuff and, and are eating disorders.
• 56:15
  So I have this friend of mine, in my entire life, I've known
• 56:18
  him. He smokes pot 24 hours a day and
• 56:20
  he's very successful, right. And I you know how when people
• 56:24
  get high, they get the munchies and they eat.
• 56:26
  That was me. Yeah, you would get high in
• 56:28
  binge. Oh yeah.
• 56:29
  OK, he would get high in binge. I wouldn't get high and I would
• 56:33
  eat more than him. Like we would go to In and Out
• 56:35
  Burger. We would go to a burger place in
• 56:38
  LA called Tommy Tommy Burger. And we would drive back to San
• 56:41
  Diego, hit In and Out Burger on the way back.
• 56:42
  And I could eat more than him and I was never high.
• 56:45
  And he like that that was that was how much I could eat.
• 56:48
  I know I believe you. I could eat that much.
• 56:50
  Any single person that's ever met me and hung out with me
• 56:53
  enough has said that they've never seen anyone eat.
• 56:55
  That's what they. Say about me.
• 56:57
  Yeah, well, if. You ever fall off the wagon and
• 57:00
  we want to go have an eating cup of it.
• 57:02
  Yeah, that's funny. But no, what what what I was
• 57:05
  saying about that, that psychedelic, because it's
• 57:07
  supposed to be done in a healing.
• 57:09
  It's not that you you wouldn't do it for fun, right?
• 57:12
  It's not something you would do to like, have a good time with
• 57:15
  your buddies. It's supposed to be a healing
• 57:17
  thing. But people have said that it
• 57:20
  will bring up memories. It can.
• 57:23
  It can bring up memories from your childhood that you do not
• 57:27
  remember. And why do you want that?
• 57:30
  Like what is it? Is that?
• 57:31
  Good well, right, that could be pretty traumatizing for some
• 57:34
  people because people will, you know, have been sexually abused
• 57:38
  and they don't remember it and then they do it and they
• 57:40
  remember it. But it's a way to I I guess it's
• 57:44
  I haven't, I haven't done it, but apparently it's like a way
• 57:46
  to heal because there's another book by Gabramate that says it's
• 57:49
  called the body keeps score. Actually, I don't think it's
• 57:52
  from him. I think it's someone else, but
• 57:53
  the body keeps score. So when when we're kids, 'cause
• 57:55
  I, I dissociated a lot as a kid and I don't remember a lot.
• 57:59
  I have like very select memory from most of my childhood and I
• 58:03
  didn't have a terrible childhood, but but my brain
• 58:06
  blocked out most of it. But your body remembers it even
• 58:10
  if you don't. So like you're inside your
• 58:13
  brain, your soul, like the memories are there and it, it
• 58:17
  creates, you know, sickness inside of you, it creates
• 58:20
  addiction, like the compulsive eating, like it comes from
• 58:23
  somewhere right inside. And so just because you don't
• 58:26
  remember it, your body remembers it and it's showing up in your
• 58:29
  behaviors like it and not you, but just people, right?
• 58:32
  This is what causes these things.
• 58:33
  And a lot of people that go through things in their
• 58:35
  childhood that isn't necessarily ideal, their brains block it off
• 58:39
  and dissociate from it. But then it shows up in their
• 58:41
  future where they're depressed or they have anxiety or they're,
• 58:44
  they have addiction problems or whatever.
• 58:47
  And so this is a, yeah, a way to kind of try to heal from that
• 58:51
  and like release some of that in in your body.
• 58:53
  Go. There positively like, can you
• 58:56
  come out of it with like these amazing positive memories?
• 58:58
  Oh my God, we had the best Christmas.
• 59:00
  We had the best days. We had them.
• 59:01
  Or does it happen all sad? No, some people, some people say
• 59:05
  they come out, it's like all love and light, you know, they
• 59:07
  come out feeling so much love. And well, like when I did
• 59:12
  psychedelics in a healing manner, it was the most
• 59:16
  transformative part of my, my healing process, more than like
• 59:20
  any other therapy or anything like that.
• 59:22
  Because it just really, it conceptually, it sounds very
• 59:25
  simple of what I came out of it with, but the feeling like I
• 59:30
  couldn't have been put in that state without the medicine, you
• 59:33
  know? Where in your career was were
• 59:34
  you when this happened? Oh, that was recently.
• 59:37
  That was, I mean, that was what actually ended the eating
• 59:40
  disorder. The psychedelics.
• 59:41
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean all of it
• 59:44
  together, but that was when it really went away.
• 59:46
  I mean, I still had a little bit of like the food cravings and
• 59:50
  thoughts and then the peptide crush that.
• 59:52
  But the, the medicine journey that I did with a shaman was the
• 59:57
  main thing that like the binge eating stopped after that.
• 1:00:01
  Did you do it here? Yeah.
• 1:00:02
  And it was just crazy because it was it was such a it was
• 1:00:05
  visceral. It was like an out of body type
• 1:00:07
  experience. But it was.
• 1:00:08
  But I still, I, no, I wasn't out of body.
• 1:00:10
  I was in my body. But it was like I felt all of
• 1:00:14
  the pain and suffering of myself for the first time because I
• 1:00:18
  blocked it all off. So I was just never emotional,
• 1:00:20
  like not a crier, you know, get over it.
• 1:00:22
  Move on. Go do something with your life.
• 1:00:23
  Like that's how I treated myself.
• 1:00:25
  And so I never grieved in my life over anything or like felt.
• 1:00:30
  Real pain and suffering because I just kind of ignored it and,
• 1:00:33
  you know, coped in some way. But this was the first time
• 1:00:36
  where I actually was able to feel it all.
• 1:00:38
  And it hurt. And I was like, bawling my eyes
• 1:00:41
  out for hours, which I've never. Yeah, it's like, good luck
• 1:00:44
  trying to give me a shred of tear.
• 1:00:46
  But but I felt it all. And I actually felt compassion
• 1:00:50
  and empathy for me. And since then you still have
• 1:00:53
  the same emotions. Like you feel yourself being
• 1:00:55
  more emotional since then. Oh no.
• 1:00:57
  Or is it just that? No, it was, well, no, it was, it
• 1:01:00
  was just in this moment. But I felt that.
• 1:01:02
  But then I also, I started to feel the pain and suffering from
• 1:01:04
  my brother, who, you know, he hurt me a lot growing up.
• 1:01:08
  And then and then I felt it from my dad and then I felt it for my
• 1:01:10
  mom. And then I literally felt it for
• 1:01:12
  the entire world. Like it was like this.
• 1:01:15
  It just kept expanding and expanding, expanding.
• 1:01:17
  I just started. I was crying harder and harder
• 1:01:19
  and harder and harder, like my whole bed was soaked in tears
• 1:01:23
  for hours of crying. Yeah, it was.
• 1:01:25
  Was. Shaman still there?
• 1:01:27
  It was insane. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:29
  And it's a whole day. Right.
• 1:01:30
  No, I, I've actually done that before really 'cause I know
• 1:01:33
  people that have done it and they keep telling me how
• 1:01:35
  transform it is. It is, and how it brings back
• 1:01:37
  all these emotions and all this stuff, these breakthroughs.
• 1:01:39
  And they wouldn't be this if it wasn't for that moment.
• 1:01:42
  Yeah, that's how I felt on it, you know, and when I.
• 1:01:45
  Cost a lot of money too. Yeah, it is a little bit pricey.
• 1:01:49
  It's just such a healing thing. And when I came out of that, I
• 1:01:54
  had so much empathy for everyone in my family.
• 1:01:57
  I would truly forgave them and for myself.
• 1:01:59
  And then the the severe, like binging it just kind of it just
• 1:02:03
  went away. That's great.
• 1:02:04
  Yeah, it was gone. But it also could be the GLP 3.
• 1:02:07
  No, no. But this was before I was on
• 1:02:08
  that. Oh, OK.
• 1:02:10
  Yeah. So it it really was beneficial.
• 1:02:12
  So like right now you've been on this GLP 3 for how long?
• 1:02:15
  The red red to tide or whatever. It is Greta.
• 1:02:18
  Like maybe three months. Pretty much.
• 1:02:20
  So like right now, are you hungry or not hungry?
• 1:02:23
  I'm rarely hungry. And when does that kick in?
• 1:02:27
  Because I'm hungry all the time. I know I, I'm, yeah, sometimes
• 1:02:31
  I'll get hungry and like I'll feel hungry, but really only
• 1:02:33
  when I'm hungry, you know? It's like I used to feel hungry
• 1:02:36
  all the time, or not even. Hungry, but like I'm on day one.
• 1:02:40
  Yeah, I know. You got to give it some time and
• 1:02:41
  you, if you have to your body, you got to like get it into your
• 1:02:44
  body and it kind of builds up over time and you slowly build
• 1:02:47
  it up. So it takes a little bit.
• 1:02:49
  But I'm only one shot in. Right, you got to just be be a.
• 1:02:52
  Little no patience for this. I know I don't have patience
• 1:02:54
  either, but no, it's, it's amazing.
• 1:02:55
  It's a game changer. Health is everything and I think
• 1:02:59
  you'll be really happy. But yeah, I always these damn
• 1:03:02
  doctors are so expensive. When you do like a real dose,
• 1:03:07
  they starts to get pretty pricey.
• 1:03:09
  I got a guy. Yeah, I I love it.
• 1:03:13
  I love it. But, well, cool.
• 1:03:15
  Well, you're awesome, John. Jay, I want to get involved in
• 1:03:18
  your foundation. It would be.
• 1:03:19
  Great love to have you be a part of it.
• 1:03:21
  Just check out our dog rescue too.
• 1:03:23
  I would love to. I can't take a dog.
• 1:03:26
  No, just come check. It out, but how?
• 1:03:28
  Many people in your office? How many people work in your
• 1:03:30
  office? I'm not in office.
• 1:03:31
  We have team members all over the country.
• 1:03:33
  We have. People like where a few here in
• 1:03:35
  like. Oh, in this city?
• 1:03:36
  Yeah, 1516. Because we do this thing where
• 1:03:40
  like companies like you did come take over the shelter for the
• 1:03:42
  day and walk the dogs, clean the dog shelter, post stuff on on
• 1:03:46
  our social media. Like if your company would say
• 1:03:48
  it's a cool thing, like Target's done it, who else discoveries
• 1:03:51
  that? Who else did it?
• 1:03:52
  Like a lot of companies, right? You know, Marcus, yeah, they
• 1:03:55
  come and just take her for the day or you should just come
• 1:03:56
  visit the shelter. But also we could show you the
• 1:03:59
  next time we do something. You should come to our dog Mom's
• 1:04:01
  Day. That's a lot of things.
• 1:04:03
  She has a my wife has a very nice upscale event with people
• 1:04:08
  you probably know or will know. And it's right before Mother's
• 1:04:11
  Day and it's really nice event for dog moms I know or
• 1:04:15
  chinchilla moms. Chinchilla moms though, I love
• 1:04:18
  dogs. Let me.
• 1:04:19
  What are you doing? Are you showing to the puppies?
• 1:04:21
  That's Channel 12. What's that air?
• 1:04:23
  That air stay? Oh, they're so cute.
• 1:04:29
  OK, I'm in. You got me, got me.
• 1:04:34
  Well, thanks for having me, I. Can't wait.
• 1:04:35
  Thanks so much.