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BONUS EPISODE: Pgh Sports Current Events - October 16, 2025 · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

0:00
SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome to another exciting edition of Pittsburgh Sports Memories Current Events.
0:05
SPEAKER_02: This is for October 14th from whenever we last did it.
0:10
SPEAKER_02: I think we're we're going short on this one.
0:12
SPEAKER_02: It's only been two weeks, but uh during football season, me and Tim will update more frequently since there's a lot more going on that's of consequence.
0:22
SPEAKER_02: So as usual, I'm your co-host, Steve Wirt, and I'm joined by Tim Hannon.
0:29
SPEAKER_02: Alrighty, Tim, let's jump right into it.
0:31
SPEAKER_02: Uh hey, hockey has uh be began in the last two weeks here.
0:36
SPEAKER_02: But the penguins uh opened the season pretty well.
0:39
SPEAKER_02: They played the Rangers, who I think are gonna be a pretty decent team.
0:43
SPEAKER_02: And uh they beat them three to nothing.
0:45
SPEAKER_02: And um the new goalie, can you pronounce Arturus Silvo Silvolis?
0:51
SPEAKER_02: I can't.
0:51
SPEAKER_02: Is that his name?
0:52
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
0:53
SPEAKER_02: They won they won three to nothing, he had a shutout, and then they beat the Islanders.
0:57
SPEAKER_02: Uh Jari was in net.
0:59
SPEAKER_02: And uh I don't know, Jari looked shaky from the highlights I saw, but I guess he made enough saves in the third period to pull it out, which is that's kind of the life of a penguin goaltender.
1:09
SPEAKER_02: It it doesn't really matter how many you let in as long as you stop the ones in the third period that you need to.
1:16
SPEAKER_02: So um, you know, then they got blown out.
1:19
SPEAKER_02: The Rangers came to PPG, like Mike Sullivan got his video tribute, and they uh blew the penguins out in the third period.
1:26
SPEAKER_02: It ended up being six to one.
1:28
SPEAKER_02: So they're two and three.
1:30
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know what they'll do tonight.
1:32
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know if that means they're two and one.
1:35
SPEAKER_02: Two and one.
1:35
SPEAKER_02: Did I say two and three?
1:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I meant two and one.
1:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:38
SPEAKER_00: Um as of as of this recording.
1:41
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
1:41
SPEAKER_02: Two and one.
1:42
SPEAKER_02: Maybe maybe I hope they don't go two and three.
1:45
SPEAKER_02: I I hope they make the, you know, I hope they make the playoffs, but um, we'll see.
1:49
SPEAKER_02: I I think it really comes down to the goaltending, Tim.
1:52
SPEAKER_02: If this new whatever Slavolis guy can be at least mediocre, that they have a really good chance at least making the playoffs.
1:59
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if they'll win in the playoffs, but they'll at least make it, and that's something, right?
2:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't I don't think they're I think they'll I don't think they're gonna be bad enough to have a shot at McKenna, like a legit shot at McKenna.
2:11
SPEAKER_00: I don't think they're gonna be good enough to make the playoffs.
2:13
SPEAKER_00: So and that's fine.
2:15
SPEAKER_02: Like I They're kind of like in the Philadelphia Flyers.
2:17
SPEAKER_02: They're like trying to rebuild while hanging on to the old guard at the same time, which sucks because because Malkin, yeah, Malkin and Letang really aren't that great, but Crosby still is.
2:30
SPEAKER_02: Crosby's still like a very good player, and that's the shame of it.
2:34
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that is a shame, but I think Crosby might play another, you know, maybe four to five years because he's just in such good shape and he's still playing at a high level.
2:46
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's enough time to get some of these guys.
2:49
SPEAKER_00: They have a lot of really good young players, like that Russian kid for the goaltender that he was so good in camp, and they they sent him down to Wilkesbury, which is great because you don't want him just sitting in the bench every night.
3:01
SPEAKER_00: You know, that Kindle who they drafted in the first round, he's playing at least for now, he'll probably only be here temporarily.
3:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think yeah, they're saying that they're probably only gonna get nine games because I agree.
3:12
SPEAKER_02: It's something with the contract.
3:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a it's a goofy arrangement they have worked up.
3:16
SPEAKER_00: But regardless, it's like there's a lot of hope for the future.
3:19
SPEAKER_00: And cool that they started off the season pretty decent, but I don't I don't expect that to last.
3:25
SPEAKER_00: And I'm okay with it not lasting.
3:27
SPEAKER_00: Like I I think that they're they're doing the right thing by voting for the future, and uh better days are ahead no matter what.
3:35
SPEAKER_02: It is this this is probably Letang and Malkin's last season.
3:38
SPEAKER_00: I it's Malkin's last season in Pittsburgh, 100%.
3:41
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he'll try to play again next year, but I think Letang, I think Letang will have a few more years.
3:48
SPEAKER_00: Like just that skill set that he has is hard to replace, and he'll hang around for a few more years.
3:52
SPEAKER_00: But Malkin's.
3:53
SPEAKER_02: He's had a lot of like serious injuries, like Letang.
3:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, I I don't know.
3:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I mean you could be right.
4:00
SPEAKER_00: Um but that's my prediction.
4:01
SPEAKER_00: I think I think Letang hangs around a couple more seasons.
4:03
SPEAKER_00: I think this is 100%.
4:05
SPEAKER_00: Malkin even keeps saying he was just saying in an interview the other night, this is my last year here.
4:11
SPEAKER_02: That sucks.
4:11
SPEAKER_02: I wish he would retire a penguin.
4:13
SPEAKER_00: Well, and it he might.
4:17
SPEAKER_00: I think when he says that he just he knows it's his last year in Pittsburgh.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: He it might be his last year, period.
4:22
SPEAKER_00: But I don't think he knows that yet.
4:24
SPEAKER_00: But it'll be an it'll be an emotional thing, I think, when we get to the end of the year, and everybody knows that.
4:31
SPEAKER_02: So uh moving one last comment on baseball before we wrap it up till February, Tim.
4:37
SPEAKER_02: Uh the Pirates went out and kept everybody in the management section of their team, and I'm not quite sure.
4:45
SPEAKER_02: They kept uh Charrington, and they as soon as the season was over, they kept Kelly, the the manager.
4:53
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's okay, but I mean, really?
4:56
SPEAKER_02: They couldn't even look at anybody else, and especially the GM should have.
5:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's kind of like I heard somebody say it's kind of like the Matt Canada logic after like the first year with Kenny Pickett, they're kind of like, oh well, we don't want to ruin all the progress.
5:09
SPEAKER_02: But you knew like Matt Canada wasn't like I even said halfway through that first, I said they gotta get a real offensive coordinator.
5:16
SPEAKER_02: So I I I don't know.
5:18
SPEAKER_02: The Pirates just are so maybe maybe it doesn't matter because like we said, next year is kind of make or break.
5:26
SPEAKER_02: Like I it's just if nothing happens, if they don't get a salary cap after 2026, I I think I'm gonna be done with baseball for for a while.
5:41
SPEAKER_02: As a serious as a serious fan.
5:46
SPEAKER_00: I I have nothing left to say.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: I mean they're they're not a serious sports franchise.
5:53
SPEAKER_02: No.
5:53
SPEAKER_02: They they make the Clippers like well, although the Clippers at least they cheated and they they spent all that money on Qui Leonard under the table to at least try.
6:02
SPEAKER_02: The the pirates don't even try.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: They're not trying.
6:05
SPEAKER_00: They're not a serious, they're they're not serious.
6:07
SPEAKER_00: You don't keep all the same people when you have all these years of losing.
6:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
6:11
SPEAKER_00: If you're serious at all.
6:12
SPEAKER_00: They're not serious.
6:13
SPEAKER_00: And to be fair, like Carrington is awful, but I don't see how you would get somebody else who would turn anything around because they're still going to work under the same constraints as Carrington's working under.
6:24
SPEAKER_00: So what's the point?
6:25
SPEAKER_00: It's it's like until the ownership changes, you can just keep it's just like shuffling.
6:30
SPEAKER_00: What's that phrase, Steve?
6:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh, um, you're rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
6:34
SPEAKER_00: On the Titanic, yep, that's exactly.
6:36
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
6:36
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't think of the phrase, but that's exactly what it is.
6:39
SPEAKER_02: So well, moving on from that dark thoughts to football Palooza, Tim.
6:47
SPEAKER_02: All right.
6:47
SPEAKER_02: Uh let's start with uh pit football.
6:50
SPEAKER_02: Um, so after losing two games in a row, the West Virginia and uh what was it, Louisville?
6:57
SPEAKER_02: All week, all you heard was Eli Holstein starting, Tim.
7:02
SPEAKER_02: Eli Holstein is starting.
7:04
SPEAKER_02: He's had a great week of practice.
7:09
SPEAKER_00: So did you hear his explanation for that?
7:12
SPEAKER_02: No, no, but beside the fact he was trying to mess with who are they playing that week?
7:17
SPEAKER_02: The Bill O'Brien.
7:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
7:19
SPEAKER_02: He messed with Bill O'Brien's head.
7:20
SPEAKER_02: Good for him.
7:21
SPEAKER_02: I I I totally love the fact that he messed with Bill O'Brien, who's not a very nice person, you know.
7:28
SPEAKER_02: So I I mean, yeah, cry me a river, Bill O'Brien.
7:31
SPEAKER_02: In Boston College, that team, that team looks like North Carolina does for Belichick.
7:36
SPEAKER_02: They look very disinterested in playing football.
7:39
SPEAKER_02: So I guess they got their NIL money, and there you go.
7:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, that's what happened.
7:45
SPEAKER_02: So Pitt, of course, starts Mason Heichel or Heinchel or whatever his name is, and they win 48-7.
7:51
SPEAKER_02: And I think really the big story in that game was that Cade Bell decided to run the ball.
7:57
SPEAKER_02: And that and they didn't, they still didn't have Desmond Reed that game, but they and I think that's been a big story, is they haven't been running the ball enough and being balanced.
8:08
SPEAKER_02: And people have said that, like, you know, this new kid doesn't feel like he has to be Superman.
8:12
SPEAKER_02: And I think that's what was happening with Holstein, is he was just trying to do everything and he was throwing a lot of really bad interceptions.
8:19
SPEAKER_02: And I think, especially at the end of that Louisville game, I thought he kind of hung his head and just you know, he looked beat.
8:27
SPEAKER_02: So good for them.
8:29
SPEAKER_02: Um, they win 48 to 7, but like I said, Boston College looked really bad.
8:32
SPEAKER_02: It didn't look very competitive.
8:35
SPEAKER_02: So they go on the road to play in Tallahassee against Florida State, and I think what were they at 20-point underdog, 12 point, 10 point?
8:43
SPEAKER_02: They were pretty good.
8:44
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Florida State was ranked in the top 25.
8:46
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah, they were pretty and like I think one of those, you know, they give those oh stat cast things.
8:52
SPEAKER_02: I think they had Florida State at 80% winning.
8:55
SPEAKER_02: So once again, those things are meaningless, they don't mean anything, they're never right, you know.
9:01
SPEAKER_02: So a pit only had a 20%.
9:03
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think I would have I don't know.
9:05
SPEAKER_02: I guess with Pitt starting the freshman quarterback two weeks in a row, everybody thought you know he'd fall apart.
9:10
SPEAKER_02: Well, he didn't.
9:11
SPEAKER_02: He um he played very well, he had over 300 yards passing.
9:15
SPEAKER_02: Um, he did have a couple interceptions.
9:18
SPEAKER_02: I didn't think the first one I thought was just an arm punt, basically.
9:24
SPEAKER_02: He threw it up and it was third down.
9:26
SPEAKER_02: The second one hurt.
9:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it was completely his fault, but it hurt because it looked like they were at least gonna get a field goal out of it, and the receiver fell down and he threw it.
9:35
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't like a really bad, like where you thought he just was staring the guy down.
9:41
SPEAKER_02: It was but it wasn't good either.
9:44
SPEAKER_02: Um but once again, like on that first drive, Pitt went for it three times on fourth down and converted all of them.
9:51
SPEAKER_02: And a couple one, a couple of them were on plays that I swear I was watching the Chiefs Lions game, and that that was right out of the Chiefs playbook.
10:00
SPEAKER_02: That one where they send Desmond Reed into the flat on fourth down, like off the edge, where he lines up in like a wing.
10:06
SPEAKER_02: That I mean, so I mean, I guess Andy Reed is stealing Cade Bell's plays, right, Tim?
10:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was totally, totally stole.
10:15
SPEAKER_02: Andy Reed's stealing everything from Cade Bell.
10:19
SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't, yeah, it's a little different with I guess Mason Heichel and Desmond Reed that you know Travis Kelsey and Brad Mahomes might be looking at.
10:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but but everything looked fluid, everything looked sharp.
10:30
SPEAKER_00: And that that kid, man, Mason Heinschel, I mean, he's just he looks confident, he looks I mean, he he's so young, too.
10:37
SPEAKER_00: You look at him, yeah, interview him, and I know this is me being old, but to me he looks like he's like a middle score.
10:44
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think he's only 18 or 19.
10:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's eighteen.
10:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he just learned how he just got his driver's license like last week.
10:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he can't even have a beer, he can't go drink or anything.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he so he's he's uh it's a it's a really good start for him.
10:59
SPEAKER_00: Um it does give new life into the season because man, it was starting to really fall apart quickly there.
11:05
SPEAKER_00: So Narduzzi Narduzzi in a Narduzzi's so insufferable, but he's a good coach at the same time.
11:12
SPEAKER_02: What was his explanation for force?
11:15
SPEAKER_00: Oh, just that he was like trying to like, ooh, look over here, no, look over here.
11:19
SPEAKER_00: It was that kind of thing.
11:21
SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
11:22
SPEAKER_00: And that's what I mean.
11:23
SPEAKER_00: He's insufferable, but he did the right thing.
11:26
SPEAKER_02: He didn't are insufferable.
11:28
SPEAKER_02: What about what what I don't remember Narjuzi being this aggressive.
11:32
SPEAKER_02: I he wasn't like super conservative, but man, going for it three times on fourth down.
11:37
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I read it's like fourth and one, fourth and two, but yikes.
11:42
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they've done it like I remember that game in 2017 against Miami where they could have kicked a field goal and they they went for it and had Kenny Pickett sneak around and he ended up scoring a touchdown.
11:53
SPEAKER_02: So I guess he has been aggressive in the past.
11:56
SPEAKER_02: And I thought I thought I heard in the broadcast they said Pittsby to ranked team eight out of the last nine seasons under him.
12:02
SPEAKER_02: So I mean, hey, here's a coach who actually wins games against ranked opponents.
12:07
SPEAKER_02: I bet there's some other teams in the state that might like that, huh?
12:12
SPEAKER_02: But then you're talking about yeah, but then we lose the Louisville, so you gotta you gotta take the good and take the bad, you know.
12:19
SPEAKER_02: You you you beat a you beat a talent, but that's isn't that the this is the most pit season ever.
12:26
SPEAKER_02: They do it 2016 on one of our podcasts.
12:28
SPEAKER_02: We went over it.
12:29
SPEAKER_02: It's like you lose the Louisville in West Virginia who aren't really that good, and you beat Florida State at home at in Fallahassee.
12:38
SPEAKER_02: It's it's a bit welcome to pit football, folks.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm I'm excited.
12:43
SPEAKER_00: I'm just excited about this kid.
12:45
SPEAKER_00: It's nice to have, and I liked Eli Holstein.
12:47
SPEAKER_00: We talked about that last episode we did.
12:49
SPEAKER_00: You know, is he done?
12:50
SPEAKER_00: We like him, but but Ben, he just the the throwing throwing the throwing the interceptions in the end zone, he did that like every single week, and it was just it just was too much.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: And I and it stinks for him, but um, yeah, this kid is looking really good.
13:06
SPEAKER_00: And I again it's two games, we can't get too excited because we were all you yeah, you had texted me, Steve.
13:12
SPEAKER_00: I texted you saying on Saturday, like, boy, this kid looks really good.
13:14
SPEAKER_00: And you said, Well, we said the same thing about Eli at this point last year, and you're right, we did.
13:19
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, we have to we need more of a sample size.
13:22
SPEAKER_02: I will say this about both quarterbacks.
13:25
SPEAKER_02: They look good when they're well, not I think Eli looks way better outside the pocket, has a better throwing when he's outside the pocket.
13:33
SPEAKER_02: And this kid could do that too, but do you when you see him throw, he looks it's the funkiest arm motion.
13:39
SPEAKER_02: Now, when he's in the pocket, it isn't as bad.
13:41
SPEAKER_02: And I think defenses are gonna start to figure this out like they did with they're gonna try and keep him in the pocket and make because that that's you know, make him beat you with passes instead of just scrambling around or running that wiki whack off that's like actually stand back there and have to complete passes, and we'll see, you know, if he can develop that way.
14:00
SPEAKER_02: If he can just, I think if he can just not throw interceptions, pit will be in the games.
14:05
SPEAKER_02: But an issue is becoming now is Pitt's offensive line got hurt, but I think their offensive line is kind of okay, like they can survive those injuries.
14:15
SPEAKER_02: The bigger problem is the defensive line.
14:18
SPEAKER_02: I think they were down to one defensive lineman in that Florida State game, and they had that, but they still stopped the run.
14:24
SPEAKER_02: I was kind of I thought Florida State would run all over them because I think that's another thing.
14:29
SPEAKER_02: Teams are figuring out like Pitt, it's a classic pit defense that they've always had.
14:33
SPEAKER_02: Like when Pitt has a good defense, it's always kind of undersized and good, like running sideline to sideline.
14:40
SPEAKER_02: But if you run at them, you can kind of push them around a little.
14:43
SPEAKER_02: And I've I've seen a lot of those pit defenses over the years, and I get the feeling this is one in there.
14:48
SPEAKER_02: They're starting a lot of freshmen.
14:50
SPEAKER_02: So that kind of concerns me.
14:52
SPEAKER_02: I because I think the defense has been decent.
14:55
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I know they gave up like 30 some points to Louisville, but I thought that's just because they're throwing the offense, just hung them out the dry in that game.
15:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was really a lot of turnovers.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: But but we'll see.
15:06
SPEAKER_00: We'll see.
15:06
SPEAKER_00: It's a really, really tough schedule ahead.
15:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
15:10
SPEAKER_02: I have that.
15:10
SPEAKER_02: There's uh the next three are Syracuse in the dome, NC State, who they always lose to, and then Stanford, who I haven't even looked up what Stanford's record is, but I think the bigger issue is they have to go to the West Coast to play.
15:27
SPEAKER_02: That's in San That's in San Francisco area and Stanford, and that's um, you know, ask ask Penn State about going to the West Coast.
15:35
SPEAKER_02: So it's a tough trip.
15:37
SPEAKER_00: And then after that, they've got Notre Dame.
15:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, those are the games that they're probably gonna lose.
15:42
SPEAKER_02: They never beat Miami, and they have Notre Dame.
15:45
SPEAKER_00: And they have and they have Georgia Tech, who might be the best team in the conference this year.
15:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Georgia Tech's really good.
15:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:51
SPEAKER_02: So I'm I think seven wins realistic for them, Tim.
15:56
SPEAKER_02: I mean, what are they at?
15:57
SPEAKER_02: Do they got four wins now?
15:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:59
SPEAKER_02: So three more wins, four more losses.
16:03
SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
16:04
SPEAKER_02: I I guess we'll see.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: I I'm I'm again, I'm just I think it's exciting that it's there's a little bit of new life into the season.
16:13
SPEAKER_00: It's like this reminds me of that Steelers season where Tommy Maddox came in.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:16
SPEAKER_00: It's like they weren't a whole they weren't like a terrible team without Tommy Maddox, but they it like breathed new life into them, and you had sort of like renewed hope that you didn't have before.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: And I feel that way about this pit season.
16:29
SPEAKER_02: So probably probably seven wins, and I've been saying that all season.
16:32
SPEAKER_02: They look like a seven-win team.
16:34
SPEAKER_00: It's realistic.
16:35
SPEAKER_02: So on to the Steelers.
16:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, after having their uh fun road trip to Ireland and beating the bye week, they they were merciless against that bye week, Tim.
16:45
SPEAKER_02: They they beat it good.
16:46
SPEAKER_02: Um, they beat Cleveland this week in a very boring game, um, quite honestly.
16:53
SPEAKER_02: Uh Aaron Rodgers looked good at times.
16:56
SPEAKER_02: Uh the good for him was that pass the Connor Hayward in the was that in the third quarter?
17:02
SPEAKER_02: I think it was.
17:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:03
SPEAKER_02: And that that there aren't a lot of quarterbacks in the NFL that can make that throw.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: We're running to your right, throwing back against your body, and he threw a bullet too.
17:14
SPEAKER_02: And that was after I think I texted you that he looked 40 years old because he had DK Metcalf open before that.
17:20
SPEAKER_00: Wide open.
17:21
SPEAKER_02: And he just I don't I don't think he just threw it.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: I think he tried to be too perfect or so.
17:26
SPEAKER_02: He like tried to finesse it in and it floated.
17:28
SPEAKER_02: But then he made it up.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: When DK Metcalf was open again, he hit him perfectly.
17:33
SPEAKER_02: So Aaron Rodgers is not a problem on this team right now.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: He looks like he's saying all the right thing, he's doing all the right things, he's playing his position well, he's not turning the ball over, which is a big thing.
17:45
SPEAKER_02: And I just I don't know what to make of the Steelers' offensive line.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: I didn't look, I meant to look up.
17:50
SPEAKER_02: Did Myles Garrett have any sacks?
17:53
SPEAKER_00: No, he had nothing.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: He was invisible, like he usually is against us.
17:57
SPEAKER_02: But but I thought I thought early in the game they were getting pressure.
18:01
SPEAKER_02: I thought Cleveland was getting pressure, and the offensive line looked a little discombobulated, but I think as the game went on, the offensive line kind of grew into the game.
18:10
SPEAKER_02: So I and they had a pretty good running game again.
18:12
SPEAKER_02: Like they were able to run the ball as the game went along.
18:16
SPEAKER_02: They I still like I know everybody, all the stealers, like I really Cam Scatabou for the Giants looks like a stealer, and I don't know who this other guy is.
18:26
SPEAKER_02: I like I had to go back and watch his highlights from Iowa, and it's like, was it just because the black and gold uniforms like, well, you know, he looks like a stealer because he's wearing black and gold.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: But he that um he doesn't, you know, he just he looks like a very like like fast running back, not a physical.
18:44
SPEAKER_02: And I I just I don't know.
18:46
SPEAKER_02: But they got Jalen Warren, Jalen Warner had a good game, and that uh he's not really gonna see the field.
18:52
SPEAKER_02: The rookie's not gonna see the field this year.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: That's pretty obvious, I guess.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Gainwell's been in there doing a really nice job.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: And and I'm I'm not ready to call anything on Caleb Johnson versus Cam Scadigue.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's like way too early.
19:04
SPEAKER_00: Like I know Cam Scadagwood looks really sharp right now for the Giants.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: He just looks like a Steeler Tim.
19:08
SPEAKER_02: He just looks he look he's physical, he's a hard runner, he looks like this guy you watch his highlights, he's like a glider, he's very fast, he doesn't look very physical.
19:19
SPEAKER_00: Like it's just Willie Parker didn't look like a steroid running back either, and he was pretty good.
19:24
SPEAKER_02: You know, I but but I don't know.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe it's gonna take him a couple years.
19:27
SPEAKER_00: Took Willie a couple years to it's like I said, it's way it's way too early.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: And and and he he got into the game this past Sunday, you know, all three of them, Gainwell and and Warren and Caleb Johnson, all three of them had I think they all combined for over a hundred yards.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: This this whole thing having the six, you know, the Spencer Anderson in there is like the tackle eligible.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's been working really well.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: They they really use Darnell Washington a lot as a receiver.
19:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was weird.
19:55
SPEAKER_02: I they like people are saying he's their number one tight end over John W.
19:59
SPEAKER_02: Smith.
19:59
SPEAKER_02: And like I guess are they gonna trade Pat Fryermouth?
20:02
SPEAKER_02: They're talking like people are talking like they're gonna trade.
20:05
SPEAKER_00: I I think I think it I think they just game plan for whatever you know.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: Cleveland has you talked about it being a boring game.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: That was expected.
20:11
SPEAKER_00: Cleveland, you know, Cleveland has a good deep defense.
20:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they do.
20:14
SPEAKER_00: They do.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: It's a really good defense.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: So getting being able to move the ball against them is not easy.
20:19
SPEAKER_00: And the first play of the game was that little roll.
20:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, they caught him.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: That was a good play design.
20:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he kind of caught him you know off guard with that.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, and that's you talked about Matt Canada earlier, and Matt Canada never would have yeah, come up with that.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: The the difference is so starting like the Arthur Smith is a real offensive coordinator, right?
20:39
SPEAKER_00: You can just see the difference.
20:40
SPEAKER_00: Like this guy knows how to call a football game, and we know did not have that before.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: And that that kind of I'm not making excuses for Kenny Pickett.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: Kenny Pickett did not play well, he did not deserve to be a starting quarterback, but it kind of stunk that he didn't have a real offensive coordinator.
20:57
SPEAKER_00: That's all.
20:58
SPEAKER_02: I will say this Cleveland does their tackles stink on their offensive line, but their guard, center guard, and they did get hurt and through the process of the game, are good.
21:08
SPEAKER_02: And we seem to be able to stop the running game, and that that rookie running back for Cleveland isn't bad.
21:13
SPEAKER_02: And I didn't think the rookie quarterback, I didn't think that Dylan, I never thought much of Dylan Great Gabriel, like through his college career, but he didn't look bad.
21:21
SPEAKER_02: He he really they just dropped a lot of passes on him, and then you know they got so far behind.
21:27
SPEAKER_02: I it was you know, I I didn't think he looked terrible.
21:30
SPEAKER_02: They maybe they have something there.
21:32
SPEAKER_02: I I doubt it.
21:33
SPEAKER_02: They they're so badly mismanned.
21:35
SPEAKER_02: That that that whole franchise, what a joke.
21:39
SPEAKER_02: I guess I could say that for four other people because like I just keep watching Baker Mayfield highlights, and like and he was good for them too, that one year.
21:47
SPEAKER_02: Like he beat the Steelers in Hinesfield.
21:50
SPEAKER_02: Like, I I don't understand why they didn't keep Baker Mayfield.
21:54
SPEAKER_00: I do.
21:55
SPEAKER_02: Because they're the Browns.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: Yep, because they're the Cleveland Browns.
21:58
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you could say that about Like two other teams too, like Carolina ran him out, and wasn't there another team that ran himself?
22:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: But the Rams didn't really run him out.
22:08
SPEAKER_02: No, they had Stafford, yeah.
22:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I mean the Carolina had had Baker and Sam Darnold.
22:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh, but but yeah, Cleveland because just so so Baker Mayfield, if the lead is the season ended today, Baker Mayfield's the MVP.
22:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean it's like it's Well he's like a he's like a Terry Bradshaw, it just took him a couple years to really develop.
22:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but like you said, it wasn't like he stunk in Cleveland.
22:33
SPEAKER_00: No, no.
22:34
SPEAKER_00: He had that he had that season where he got him almost to the AFC championship game.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: And then he got hurt.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: He got hurt.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: And then Watson became available.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: And typical Cleveland.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: They're like, no, no, we need we need the big shiny, you know, car.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: We can't just drive around like the the, you know, the sensible car.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: And and just imagine that imagine, you know, they made the playoffs two years ago.
23:00
SPEAKER_00: Imagine if they keep all those draft picks, keep all that salary cap space, yeah.
23:07
SPEAKER_00: Baker be their quarterback.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: Like just imagine.
23:10
SPEAKER_00: Imagine where they'd be right now.
23:12
SPEAKER_00: But it's just it's just it's such a Cleveland thing that they they they sank their team to sign a guy who's barely played for them.
23:20
SPEAKER_02: And when he's played, he's not been good.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: And when he's played, he's been terrible.
23:23
SPEAKER_00: What what a typical just garbage franchise move.
23:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh I feel bad for the fans in Cleveland.
23:30
SPEAKER_00: I legit feel bad for the fans in Cleveland.
23:32
SPEAKER_00: They deserve better than that.
23:33
SPEAKER_02: Well, pretty soon they'll have a dome.
23:35
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, there you go.
23:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:38
SPEAKER_02: Um the Steelers in the second half rested a lot of defensive players, but they still got people hurt.
23:43
SPEAKER_02: I think is Jalen Ramsey not hurt now, or I know he played.
23:48
SPEAKER_00: He was hurt coming in.
23:49
SPEAKER_02: Well, what a surprise.
23:50
SPEAKER_02: Like, I always hated that guy.
23:52
SPEAKER_02: But man, he's like you know who he is?
23:55
SPEAKER_02: He's the instigator in hockey, or like uh David Eckstein for the Cardinals and Angels, like the guy you hate when he's not on your team, or Al Tuve for the Astros.
24:06
SPEAKER_02: Like, he's like that guy you just can't stand when he's on the other team.
24:09
SPEAKER_02: But when he's on your team, you love him.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: Darius Casparetis.
24:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, how much we hated Darius Casparatus when he plays with the Islanders, and we all love them.
24:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like I love this guy.
24:19
SPEAKER_02: He's like makes plays every week, plays with one leg.
24:22
SPEAKER_02: The guy's a gamer.
24:23
SPEAKER_00: I mean he said he said after that game on Sunday, he said, I'm gonna tell my kids someday that I played in a game with TJ Watt and Miles Garrett, and I had two sacks.
24:34
SPEAKER_02: So I mean, say what you want.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that that guy's a gamer, and he's a really good player still.
24:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this this is fun right now.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, until they until they lose a game, they shouldn't.
24:46
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's what's gonna happen on Thursday.
24:48
SPEAKER_02: Uh bet the house, hot tip.
24:50
SPEAKER_02: 401k, kids fun.
24:53
SPEAKER_02: Take out a second mortgage, Tim.
24:55
SPEAKER_02: Open your fanDuel account, bet it all on Cincinnati, because there is no way the Steelers, and that's in Cincinnati, isn't it?
25:03
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
25:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but they always win in Cincinnati.
25:06
SPEAKER_02: They are going, they are going to lose, book it, done.
25:11
SPEAKER_02: It is a Thursday night game.
25:13
SPEAKER_02: It is Mike Tomlin.
25:14
SPEAKER_02: They're riding on top of the world.
25:16
SPEAKER_02: This would pretty much like really put them on top of the division.
25:21
SPEAKER_02: I I just I I they lose.
25:24
SPEAKER_02: They lose this game, and then it gets really like if they lose this game, which they probably will, it's not the end of the world, but it's gonna make like then they have three really tough games.
25:34
SPEAKER_02: They have the Colts, they have Chargers, and uh Green Bay.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: The Packers, yeah.
25:41
SPEAKER_02: And Green Bay's gonna be a revenge game for Rogers, so he'll probably want to play really well that game.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: For some reason, I don't know about the Packers and Chargers, but the Steelers beat the Colts.
25:53
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why, I don't know how.
25:56
SPEAKER_02: It's just like the Islanders that are Virginia Tech.
26:00
SPEAKER_02: Pitt always beats Virginia Tech, the Steelers always beat the Colts, except for when they had Justin Fields last year, but they will beat the Colts.
26:08
SPEAKER_02: And the Colts have been our good team this year.
26:11
SPEAKER_02: They found their quarterback.
26:13
SPEAKER_02: Speaking of finding a quarterback that like, wow, why is Brian Dable still a coach in the NFL?
26:19
SPEAKER_02: Like they're doing they're they're he I think he's gonna save his job because they're that well they I if I if I was in the NFC East, I would be happy as hell that he saved his job.
26:32
SPEAKER_00: I I think the moral of the story is that we rushed these quarterbacks in, you know, back in the day.
26:39
SPEAKER_02: They let the the Terry Bradshaws develop.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: Even Carson Palmer.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: Remember that like the Bengals for all the mistakes they've made over the years, that was really smart.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: They let him John Kitna was a starter for the first like year and a half or whatever, because they wanted to let him develop, and that's the way it used to be.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: And now it's like rush him in there, rush him in there, and now you're seeing all these guys on like second and third stints, like Darnold, like Baker, like um uh Danny Dimes.
27:07
SPEAKER_00: Even Gino Smith, like Gino, he he Gino has regressed badly this year, but but before that, yeah, Gino, like that's another great example.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: So like sometimes these guys just need some years to to just develop and not be rushed in there.
27:23
SPEAKER_00: Um sometimes it's also maybe a bad situation that they're in, they just need a different situation.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: Now it doesn't work for everybody, it's not working real well for Justin Fields right now.
27:32
SPEAKER_00: Um there's a bunch of other guys it hasn't worked out for either.
27:36
SPEAKER_00: Um, but but I I I don't know.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: I just I think there's a lot to be said for hey, can we just take our foot off the gas pedal and let these guys kind of come in?
27:45
SPEAKER_00: Like Cam Ward's really struggling right now, and I I like they fired their they fired their coach.
27:50
SPEAKER_00: I know.
27:50
SPEAKER_00: Well, the did you see that stat?
27:52
SPEAKER_00: The last four number one draft picks have all had their coaches fired in the middle of the their rookie season.
27:58
SPEAKER_00: What does that do for your progress?
28:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, but everybody everybody looks at um you know, like Washington last year, and that's what they all want.
28:07
SPEAKER_00: You know, they all think like, oh, the rookie or bet or the Steelers in 2004.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: But the Steelers already had like everything else in place, pretty much.
28:15
SPEAKER_02: They just needed a quarterback.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: I know, but they but they were six and ten in four.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: Same thing with Washington.
28:21
SPEAKER_02: Washington had a lot of good pieces already in place, and they just needed the well, they needed to change ownership, which perfect example.
28:29
SPEAKER_02: We were talking about when owner well, look, Washington's winning again since they changed ownership.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: Amazing how that happened, yeah.
28:36
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yep.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: But that's what everybody wants.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: Everybody wants what they did last year with Daniels.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: They want that like instant success.
28:43
SPEAKER_02: Even Houston kind of had that.
28:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes.
28:46
SPEAKER_00: So it's possible, it's just it's not likely.
28:50
SPEAKER_02: It's not likely.
28:51
SPEAKER_00: And so it's better to take your time.
28:53
SPEAKER_00: And I think the Steelers will be in a good position to do that if they indeed draft a quarterback next year, like everybody's expecting.
29:01
SPEAKER_00: Um, because they're a franchise that is patient.
29:04
SPEAKER_00: The other problem is that the way the NFL works, like to your point about Callahan, there you if you're a coach or a GM, there's no time, you're not given that leap to go to the ownership and to the fans and say, hey, this is gonna take a while.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: Like like what the penguins are doing right now.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: Hey, this is gonna take a while, everybody sit tight.
29:22
SPEAKER_00: This is gonna there's gonna be some rough play that you're gonna have to sit through.
29:26
SPEAKER_00: Um but but but we're gonna get through this and we have you know we have a plan.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: They can't do that because they'll lose their jobs.
29:34
SPEAKER_02: Well, coming back to this season, uh, can the Steelers win the division?
29:39
SPEAKER_02: I say after these next four games, they probably go two and two in some fashion.
29:44
SPEAKER_02: But somewhere they somehow they beat the Colts and they beat one of the other teams, probably the Packers.
29:50
SPEAKER_02: Probably or the Chargers.
29:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the Chargers, they might be the Chargers because the Chargers play like a similar type of game to the Steelers.
29:58
SPEAKER_02: But they definitely lose Thursday to Cincinnati.
30:01
SPEAKER_02: There's no way they win that game.
30:03
SPEAKER_02: And if they do, I will happily eat Crow next time.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: I mean they should.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: Like everything.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: Joe Flat.
30:10
SPEAKER_02: No, no, Tim, no, no, no.
30:13
SPEAKER_02: This is a Mike Tomlin game all the way.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: I said I i it it it's yeah, I I I don't blame you for feeling that way.
30:22
SPEAKER_00: You're right, on paper they should win, but yeah, you're right.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: It's just one of those games where they won.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: Cincinnati kind of has their backs against the wall and now they have Flacco.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: Tomlin was so upset.
30:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that they trade he was mad at Cleveland for trading them.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: He's like, what are they doing?
30:37
SPEAKER_00: Well, because he wanted to play against Cake Browning.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: Everybody wanted to play against Cake Browning.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: And now he has to play against somebody that's semi-competent in Flacco.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: Flacco has had a lot of you talked about losing to the Colts last year.
30:51
SPEAKER_00: That was Flacco.
30:52
SPEAKER_00: So Flacco's had plenty of success against us over the years, unfortunately.
30:56
SPEAKER_02: So going back to the division, uh, the Bengals are two and four right now, the Ravens are one and five, and the Browns are one and five.
31:04
SPEAKER_02: Are the Ravens cooked completely?
31:07
SPEAKER_02: No.
31:08
SPEAKER_00: I refuse to believe that.
31:10
SPEAKER_02: They can go nine and two, I think, and make the playoffs.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: Like I saw that on NFL primetime.
31:15
SPEAKER_02: They they said they can go nine and two, and they do play an easier schedule.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: Like it's kind of weird, like the Raven, but they have to now sweep the Steelers, which that probably isn't gonna happen.
31:27
SPEAKER_02: But normally Ravens Pittsburgh is a ha is a home and home series.
31:33
SPEAKER_00: Winning the division for the Ravens would take a pretty good collapse by us, which is possible as we saw last year.
31:39
SPEAKER_00: But them making the playoffs, I could definitely see them still making the playoffs.
31:43
SPEAKER_00: They just they they have a bye week this week.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: They'll get Lamar back, they'll get healthier, maybe.
31:49
SPEAKER_02: Well, their defense, I mean, are they gonna be able to fix their defense?
31:52
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: But but they're the Ravens, they just don't stink.
31:57
SPEAKER_00: Like, that's not who they are.
31:59
SPEAKER_02: Like I know I think they're I think there's a better chance, and I might eat my words on this one, and I just think I I see a maturity in this Bengals team that I've never seen with the Bengals before.
32:12
SPEAKER_02: Like, for for once in my life, I think this is an emotionally stable Cincinnati Bengals team.
32:18
SPEAKER_00: Like I'm not saying it.
32:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm seeing a porous offensive line that that's that's why Joe Burrow got it.
32:26
SPEAKER_02: I I think I think this team has a chance.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: I I I think the Bengals, if their defense isn't god-awful, they they held Green Bay down.
32:36
SPEAKER_02: No, it is.
32:37
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they held Green Bay down, they just couldn't stop the run.
32:42
SPEAKER_02: I I don't I don't know.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: We'll see.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: I mean maybe the it's I I don't think they're the Browns, obviously the Browns, but they had one more a win more, one more win than the Ravens.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: Well yeah.
32:53
SPEAKER_02: I just I just have more faith in the in the and what about Joe Flacco having to play the Packers on two different teams in the same like month?
33:01
SPEAKER_02: It was like the and the and he beat the Packers with Cleveland, but then he lost to him with Cincinnati.
33:06
SPEAKER_02: So who's next?
33:07
SPEAKER_02: Does he does he go back to the Ravens when they play Green Bay later in the year?
33:12
SPEAKER_00: I just I just have more faith in the Ravens as a franchise than they do in the Bengals.
33:16
SPEAKER_02: And I and I I I don't I don't history would tell you that's the true, but I just for some reason I I think the Bengals get it together this year.
33:24
SPEAKER_02: And I could be wrong.
33:25
SPEAKER_02: I could be I could eat could be like my Cincinnati prediction on Thursday.
33:29
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, but it I don't know.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: I think I think Cincinnati's cooked.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: I think Cleveland, well Cleveland's just Cleveland, but I think Baltimore has the best chance.
33:37
SPEAKER_00: If somebody's gonna come back and challenge us for the division, it'll be Baltimore.
33:42
SPEAKER_02: Baltimore's schedule is a lot easier.
33:44
SPEAKER_02: They do have to play us twice, but outside of that, they they still gotta play.
33:49
SPEAKER_02: Have they played Cincinnati yet?
33:51
SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
33:52
SPEAKER_00: And they probably haven't played Cleveland, so yeah, they have like Miami and Chicago, I think, are their next two games.
33:57
SPEAKER_02: So again Chicago's sneaky better than you think.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: That's not a gimme game.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: Fair, fair.
34:03
SPEAKER_00: But we have to play Chicago too.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: Like it's that's not a gimme game for us.
34:07
SPEAKER_00: Right.
34:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean they beat who'd they just beat Washington.
34:10
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
34:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so and the Bills lost to Atlanta.
34:14
SPEAKER_02: What the heck was that?
34:15
SPEAKER_00: Well, this is so yeah, what one one last point to make on the whole who can win the division?
34:20
SPEAKER_00: This year's completely upside down so far.
34:23
SPEAKER_00: You know, the the Colts are good.
34:25
SPEAKER_00: The you know, the Ravens and and and and the Bills and the you know, even the teams like the Lions, the Lions look so good.
34:33
SPEAKER_02: Even the Chiefs are 500, 3-3.
34:37
SPEAKER_02: The Chiefs here put this in put this in your little head and think about it.
34:42
SPEAKER_02: The Chiefs and the Carolina Panthers have the same record.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but at the end of the day, like Carolina's really good at home.
34:50
SPEAKER_02: I'll say this.
34:51
SPEAKER_02: Carolina does play a lot better at home than they do on the road.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: I I have a feeling the the Kansas City's like New England was all those years.
34:58
SPEAKER_00: So Kansas City's having an off year.
35:00
SPEAKER_02: But then maybe they can steal more of Cade Bell's plays, and they'll be a little bit more.
35:04
SPEAKER_00: Like what they did to Detroit the other night.
35:06
SPEAKER_00: Like they they're they'll be back, and then they'll be right in the thick of it, and then they'll be in the playoffs, and then they'll be in the Super Bowl.
35:12
SPEAKER_00: That's the way the season ends.
35:14
SPEAKER_00: This season ends with Kansas City in the Super Bowl, just like every other.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: So it'll be but it'll be like everybody for the next 17 years.
35:20
SPEAKER_02: It'll be a circuitous route.
35:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll be like, oh, this everything's you know, everything you know is wrong, everything's upside down.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: This is the upside down season.
35:28
SPEAKER_00: Anything can happen, you know.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: Oh, like like the the the Dolphins went on a run and are in the playoffs.
35:35
SPEAKER_00: Something crazy like that'll happen.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: And then the Chiefs will just be in the Super Bowl.
35:39
SPEAKER_02: That's that's how against like against like you know, Philadelphia again.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I yeah, I I won't even predict the the other side of it, but I that's how this ends.
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SPEAKER_00: Because I've seen the movie too many times with the Patriots.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like I know how the movie ends.
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SPEAKER_02: It always like you said, you got a good coach, a good quarterback.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, their defense doesn't suck.
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SPEAKER_02: So they're getting that Rossi Race back from suspension.
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SPEAKER_00: They'll they'll they're just gonna I bet they go on a run.
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SPEAKER_00: I bet they win like the next five games or something crazy.
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SPEAKER_02: But they're in a tough division.
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SPEAKER_02: They are in a very even the Raiders aren't terrible in that division.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and but the Chargers are starting to falter.
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SPEAKER_00: Denver, you know, I mean they're they have a great defense, but Bo Nix kind of Bo Nicks is doing the CJ Stroud.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, I was so good that first season, now I'm like kind of not as good the second season.
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SPEAKER_00: So I I I think, yeah, I I just just watch.
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SPEAKER_00: I I know like I said, I've seen this movie a bunch of times.
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SPEAKER_02: So all right.
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SPEAKER_02: Bet the house on the uh Raiders making the Super Bowl.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, it was Chris Burman's pick.
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SPEAKER_02: It was always Buffalo in San Francisco.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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