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Kyle Highfield | The Christian Reeve Podcast | #73 | · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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  podcast, shall we? Boom.
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  Hello. And welcome to another episode
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  of the Christian we've podcast today's Guest is a podcaster.
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  Professional translator and student.
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  All the way from the Netherlands.
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  He goes by the name Kyle Highfield.
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  Welcome to the show. How you doing Carl?
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  Hi Christian, I'm doing well, how are you?
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  Very good, very good. Now, first off the bat, I've got
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  to ask this because it's not obvious on your social medias or
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  anything like that. Where are you actually from?
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  All right. So I'm from the Netherlands,
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  right? Okay.
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  Okay. The sorry, but the accents
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  messing with me and please pick up a piece of take offense,
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  right? But like when I first heard it I
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  was thinking is Australia or Maybe South Africa or I'm
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  getting confused here because at first what I thought was that
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  maybe you'd relocated to the Netherlands because you know,
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  I've even interview people on the show that have done that and
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  you know, obviously most European countries are very
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  Multicultural so you get people from around the world anyway and
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  I don't know that just threw me for a second another.
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  Yeah, I get that, I get that more often than you think.
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  Okay, okay, but now, I am Dutch, I live in that.
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  Since I'm born here, cool. The accent is just something
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  that kind of came with the, with learning the languages.
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  Well, as you as you said, in my intro, I am a translator.
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  That's not with it. And not without reason, I'm very
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  interested in different languages so I also want to
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  speak them the right way. And where did you?
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  Presumably learn English at school then I would imagine or
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  elsewhere. You blasted.
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  That's a tricky question because of course I did take English
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  classes in school, okay? But I don't know if that is
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  where I got most of my my language skills.
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  So to say, I don't know. So so the first thing is that in
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  the Netherlands, we don't do a lot of TV series or movies and
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  all that, okay? So we listen to a, we watch
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  Watch English movies with that subtitles.
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  Yeah, that's pretty. And so as a child, you grow up
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  listening to English language with the translation and the
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  need. That's where you start, picking
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  up these at a very early age, what we use some of your
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  favorite programs to watch grown up then Pokémon without a doubt
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  Pokemon. I love you already.
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  Each Pokémon fine. It's, I had, I play all the
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  games, I had the training. Cause, what's what's this
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  series? The movies, everything.
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  How old are you? Now, if you don't mind me asking
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  21, tell you what, so right. So you would have been very
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  young because I'm 27, that's why I asked.
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  So you would have grown up or at least when you were getting into
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  Pokemon, you probably were getting into it around and say,
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  like the diamond and Pearl error.
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  Maybe maybe a bit before I leave.
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  Green, was my first game. Okay, that's what I was gonna
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  say, because I literally the undoubted that I literally grew
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  up with the original games like and the movies when they came
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  out, but I figured since you're sort of 21 that you're not like
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  that much younger than me. So there's just it's going to be
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  just like a couple of years afterwards.
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  So that makes sense, right? Because that actually, that
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  funny enough. That was the cutoff point for
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  me. Then I What?
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  Once leaf green came out, I played that excessively and then
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  I think I was holding what? I've been eleven twelve.
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  That's relatable, yeah. That that's when high school
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  happened, you know what I mean? Yeah, girls and other stuff
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  comes and you're just, you forget.
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  But that being said, since we're just talking about Pokemons, for
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  completely, unrelated low. Yeah, I've continued playing
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  those games. I think they have a lot of
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  replayability and, you know, I love you, you know, because I'm
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  restricted by not Of having the finances to do like modern
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  gaming and stuff. I always do like, Retro Gaming
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  on streams and whatnot. So what's the first game?
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  I played Pokemon? Actually the beginning of 2020,
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  when everything went into lockdown.
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  I downloaded an emulator, little my laptop, and I replayed
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  Diamond and Pearl. Yeah.
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  Like even before all of this stream and stuff, I was doing
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  this every couple of years, I find myself going back to and
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  go. Okay, let's play this.
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  Again let's play this again and is mandatory almost yeah it's
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  faster. I don't know what it is about
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  those games that are so replayable because when I think
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  about it in my mind that logically right, like like okay
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  I've never completed the game in so much as like catching them.
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  All out for me. Coming in the game, is kind of
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  catching all of the Pokémon as many as you can catch.
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  In the rare Pokemon be in the Pokémon League.
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  Team will leak doing all the story and then that's kind it.
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  And I know a lot of people going to argue You with me, right?
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  He's a really important fact, with this.
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  If you're using emulators, is actually impossible without
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  cheats to complete the game simply because obviously, with
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  the originals you need the consoles or, you know, the games
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  in their original format and then you have to buy both
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  versions of the get like, this is what I did Growing Up with
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  the Gameboy, so I literally have like Game Boy, Advance and Game
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  Boy, Advance SP set up, you know, Ruby and Sapphire or red
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  and blue. And I would trade the Pokemon
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  across, you know, For the right. That's that's what most kids
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  did, unless you traded with your friends.
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  That's what you did. And it quickly dawned on me,
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  even when I was a kid, but this, this is just long, this just
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  takes forever. Why would you do this?
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  Just and then I looked at someone's video on YouTube about
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  this, and they literally show you like, what you get, every
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  time you beat the game in its entirety, and it's literally
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  nothing. It's just, I suppose it's it's
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  just clouds. Like okay, I got like a little A
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  digital certificate that says feel more, but you don't get
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  anything cool. I don't know, DLC would be
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  called German. Let's say like you beat the game
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  and you got like extra levels or something, right?
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  Something unlocked but that's not the case now yeah you know
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  and okay I don't ever normally complain about Pokemon because
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  Pokemons amazing but that would be my only like you know thing
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  that I would complain about is like you make it, you know like
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  for example with the original games, you why not?
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  A bit difficult with that generation but they did it later
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  on. They did it.
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  Like if you take gold and silver gold and silver in my opinion,
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  are the best of like the original error because it's
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  like, you got to basically complete the game and then boom,
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  you get to play the whole of Canto, the original.
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  And you have to go through all that and they've tweaked, it and
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  changed it so that it's different.
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  And it felt like two games in one.
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  And I that just blew my mind when I was, like, yeah, I was
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  like, wow. So this won't be us talking
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  about. Pokemon the whole time.
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  I just it's it's might be that it might be.
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  It's not often that I talk about Pokemon aside from actually
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  doing those streams to be honest.
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  So yeah, me neither but it's great to find like-minded
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  people. What do you make of the new
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  stuff? These days that Pokemon go and
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  like the newer Generation stuff? I mean, I don't want to be one
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  of those people who's like, everything that came after I
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  grew up. Is bad.
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  But I mean if you look at them it's like I don't have to same
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  feel and I'm sure that for the children who grow up with
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  Pokemon now, it's the exact same.
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  As our Pokémon was too. If you, if you look at a vault
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  old, for example, is just a ball.
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  Like it doesn't make any more sense than an ice cream cone but
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  still it's, I don't know. You know, I actually agree with
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  you on this. I think you're very, you're very
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  right on this this whole Nostalgia thing.
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  We always look at what we grew up with rose-tinted glasses.
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  It's, you know, it's inevitable. But with that being said, and
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  I'm going to give a foreign against for new new against
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  that. Obviously I haven't played them
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  but I've seen other people playing them.
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  I've heard about them, I know enough to know that, like with
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  the newer Generations you know we've got an insane amount of
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  Pokemon and inevitably you have to introduce no new Pokemon
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  every generation. That's its that's inevitable.
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  But the coolest, the coolest that, the good things that I've
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  seen Is obviously the games becoming more and more and more
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  and more 3D, which like, the one thing I've always wanted and
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  what would actually draw me to go out and buy a new Pokemon
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  game would be if they made a sort of Skyrim Style, Pokemon
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  RPG, like, bats actually be amazing.
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  That's what I'm hoping for Wonder, and, like, the sort of
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  gay. And it would be insane.
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  But basically, to go from jet, like, region to region.
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  So you start in canto, go to Johto.
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  Go to Jose, and so on and so forth.
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  Right? Like this would take many many,
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  many years and you'd probably, I think, realistically you'd have
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  to do in DLCs or maybe you could even do the whole thing like
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  that. But that would be my ultimate
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  one in a Pokemon game because I think that like, you know,
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  they've done almost everything you could probably do as far as,
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  like, changing the systems changing the games, making them
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  more interesting. Making them more replayable,
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  right? Right.
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  And now that leads me to the negatives, right?
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  Obviously like I said, Like the fact that the games look better
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  and the quality is better in the 3D aspect is all good and
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  everything. I feel like that's where it kind
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  of ends with the good stuff because with the negativity
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  aspect it's like it sounds like really difficult to play the
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  games. Now, that's going to make me
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  sound like a big old guy and obviously for the younger
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  generation that would be look at me a bit like, always an idiot.
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  He doesn't understand like, you know, he's just a boom or some
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  shit, you know, and like that's a fair comment to make, but you
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  got to remember like when the Pokemon games first started,
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  they were really Ballistic, obviously.
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  And then with each generation, they got a little bit harder.
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  There was more to take on, but it was still stuff that you
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  could kind of get your head around it really simple example,
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  the weaknesses and the strengths aspect, you know, you could
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  always build up a team, but more or less could be any other team,
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  but it would take a lot of thinking on your part.
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  So, you know, and you will probably always have a weak spot
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  in your team, in some way, shape or form.
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  But ultimately, you could sort of balance the team.
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  So that it kind of worked like that way or failing that you
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  could probably have a Pokemon that, you know, knows, lots of
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  different attacks from different.
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  But, you know, I'm Goin with ya. But the issue that I've seen is
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  that now, there are Pokémon types that don't have like a
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  type. That that's something I read
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  about and like, some that don't even have weaknesses.
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  And I'm like, how does that work?
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  Like, how do you go about being that?
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  Like, if you're playing actually competitively, how do you play
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  competitively? A against teams of Pokemon that
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  don't have any weaknesses, like, how do you do that?
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  And that is where I kind of it draws me away and also makes me
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  less inclined. You know, when I am able to do
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  so to play the newer games, because I'm thinking, well, you
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  know, I I like a challenge, but if it's like so much of a
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  challenge that it's near impossible, it just puts me off.
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  I don't know. All right.
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  Yeah, I understand that, I get it but what do you make of that?
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  What do you make of the newer games?
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  As far as the stuff, I just laid out Yeah, I'm not sure about
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  then like the sword and shield came out.
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  I had to look at it. I haven't played it yet.
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  Actually. I don't know, I like the 3D
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  aspects of it but I've never done any competitive matches
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  battles. So I'm not sure about that, but
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  I do, I do see where you're coming from with.
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  If they do if they at the Pokemon they do not have any
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  weaknesses. What are you going to do?
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  Right. It's all planning out your team
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  and what you want them to be. Like I got DJ this Pokemon, I
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  sponge because like I have to be tall Terrier that just brings it
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  back now. Get that PTSD hearing that.
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  Yeah, it's all. It's all about that.
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  Nostalgia The eleventh eye recently replayed was it
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  Pokemon? I don't read or something and
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  then I did know. I did Pokemon Yellow.
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  That was it and it was a lot harder than I remember.
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  Like, I think I was actually better at playing the games when
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  I was a kid because as an adult, I don't know, like, I remembered
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  a lot of stuff, but there was stuff that I learnt this time
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  around. I never knew that is that it's
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  just pot or as I was playing live in a pool.
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  Last year it was some pause was like, how did I do this?
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  When I was 8, these are some difficult puzzles in there that
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  let sometimes she does, I don't know.
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  It took me some time to figure out.
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  It's crazy. Okay, let's actually move on the
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  right foot podcast, right? This was all right, yeah, let's
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  do. This is fun.
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  This is fun, right? You hosts a podcast called?
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  I know you, what is the podcast about and what kind of topics
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  do? You tend to discuss on that
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  show? Alright, so it is called, I know
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  you. And what we do is every episode,
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  I invite a guest with an interesting expertise and then I
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  have a chat with them. About set expertise and what
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  they have experienced and then what their General lives folks.
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  Well, okay, so it's very interesting and we meet a lot on
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  meet a lot of different people. For example, I've done an
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  episode on quarrel with the marine biologist, I said yeah, I
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  read about that. That was really cool awesome.
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  Right. And then then now I have an
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  interview scheduled with a world champion cooling.
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  All right. So so we Meet.
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  All these different kinds of people who have different kinds
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  of skills and then, I'm sorry. Now, please go.
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  All right, and then I'm just sitting there being super dumb.
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  Like I taught this marine biologist who's, like good at a
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  job. She knows his shit and I had the
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  audacity to tell her that girl move like claw machines.
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  But how did she react to that? Yeah, listen to the episode.
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  She then continued to roast me for like five minutes.
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  That's the beauty of it. Like, it's a comedy podcast, and
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  informative, comedy podcast feel.
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  Because after I'm done being all done, I actually asked for the
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  actual answers to the questions, right?
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  So you'll learn something. And you can see me being an
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  idiot. It's a great combination.
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  How do you land these guests? Like, what's your process for
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  finding guests? It's at this point, it's mostly
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  50/50 between reddits and just my personal Network.
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  I like, as I started out, I found this group of starting
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  podcasters, right? And so we have a Discord group
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  and then like, hey, I'm starting out as anyone want to be a guest
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  on my show. And that's how I got my first
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  couple of guests. Yeah, it's a real struggle.
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  When you're first starting, isn't it to get those first?
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  That's the show grows. It's easier to get higher
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  profile, guests on the show who have been your some of your
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  favorite guests to have on the show.
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  I loved every one so far. That's what I always say.
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  It's the politically correct answer.
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  Now I has I had this tabletop role-playing going on.
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  His name was Sam and we would just improvising the whole
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  episode. We did zero preparation.
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  We just went into it like all right, we're going to talk about
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  this then like during the episode, he was actually
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  quizzing me on his podcast which I said I had listened to which I
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  did. But not than that, Much detail.
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  So yeah, that was a great episode on tabletop role-playing
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  to incite, I didn't know shit. Have you have you ever had any
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  sort of like challenging guests and if so, like, how did you
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  actually never get it? I would say I'm hot really
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  challenging guess, although, I guess the main issue is that
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  sometimes they get the guests. A lot of talking about this
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  subject so much that it's kind of hard to get new questions in
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  because these are shut up, shut up, let me speak trying to host
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  a podcast here. No.
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  But at the same time, I can only appreciate that.
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  Effort and how much knowledge they actually have.
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  So that's fine. But I would say, that's the most
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  challenging thing for me is to stay a host of my own podcast
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  sometimes. What about the sort of the
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  podcast in general? As far as, you know, setting up
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  your research process. Everything like what the
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  challenges associated with just producing your podcast.
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  Well, I tried to do as much research as possible before I
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  have my guest on, because you want to be Pad and you want to
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  know what you're going to ask questions about especially when
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  you're talking about their personal life.
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  Because their expertise, they are very eager to talk about,
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  but the personal stuff you have to dig for that sometimes.
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  Yeah. Have you ever had any instances
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  then where you sort of probed, and maybe they were like, nope.
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  And then something like that hasn't happened to me yet, but I
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  kind of imagine being like, fuck.
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  Maybe we can move on to the next question, but that hasn't
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  happened to me yet. One thing I always do to get
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  around that is not always. But if I do have some questions
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  that I'm like all this, I'm not sure about this question asking
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  them, what I'll do is I'll ask them beforehand to be like is
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  there anything off limits like I did with you today?
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  Or is there any questions that you're uncomfortable with and a
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  few times? There's been people that been
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  that. Yeah, I don't want to talk about
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  this uncomfortable this and I just make sure not to include
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  that. So I feel like that Just a way
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  of getting around that in general.
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  So what I tend to do is I'll make a Google Document.
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  Hmm, well, I write down my questions and then I send them
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  that you have anything to add to this something else.
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  You'd like to talk about or anything you'd like removed.
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  And so that way are usually usually make that happen.
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  So skewed. Oh no problems there.
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  So far there was actually what its podcast time trying to set
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  up at the moment. And with a celebrity and that
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  was one of the things that they asked was that I send them the
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  questions which I never ever do. And the reason that I don't is
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  is not because I have anything to hide but it's just the kind
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  of, I don't know. I like to kind of keep my guest,
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  I don't want my guests to kind of calm with like, you know,
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  like set aren't. I don't want it to be robotic.
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  I want it to be conversational, like what this is, you know,
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  because for example, I don't even necessarily ask all of my
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  questions and a lot. My questions tend to be
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  ad-libbed and I said this to this person that I was in the
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  sociation, such as I was like, you know, I probably will ad-lib
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  because it's just, you know, I don't want it to be robotic.
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  It's it is an interview and it is supposed to be serious.
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  But at the same time, I want my guests to feel comfortable.
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  I wanted to be conversational. I think it's more interesting
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  that way to listen to oh, for sure.
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  Yeah you know I mean it's just because if you just listen to
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  like a podcast interview and it's just like Blah, blah, blah,
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  blah, blah. Okay next question blah blah
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  blah blah blah. Okay, now it's just I don't
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  know, I would hate that and you know, this isn't this isn't a
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  chat show. This isn't like, you know, it
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  because I've seen interviews like that and I'm like It's fine
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  for what it is. But like, I think you've got to
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  look at like the the medium that you're dealing with.
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  Like if you're watching like some, I don't know music awards
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  show and there's a guy interviewing a musician or
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  something, right. Fair enough.
• 21:34
  You know what to expect with that interview format, you know,
• 21:36
  it's going to be very quick. Probably about five ten minutes
• 21:39
  and it'll be quick fire. The won't be long winded.
• 21:42
  Answers that be it but you want long-winded with a podcast.
• 21:46
  That's what I was very adamant about.
• 21:48
  And setting up my podcast is, I need some comedy in there.
• 21:52
  I need something to be funny and I don't want it to be just
• 21:54
  question. Answer the question answer
• 21:56
  because we can do that. I could I could question
• 21:59
  somewhat on what Coral is and how long it lifts for, but you
• 22:03
  don't need a podcast for that. Like if you if I'm listening to
• 22:08
  podcasts I want there to be something more and I think I've
• 22:11
  figured that out nicely in my case.
• 22:14
  So what are your goals and aspirations for this show?
• 22:17
  Then would you want to? Do with it.
• 22:19
  What you want it to go, maybe it's better question.
• 22:22
  You know, I'd love if it eventually grew big and I could
• 22:28
  maybe get some income from it because I love doing it, you
• 22:31
  know, it's so much fun. But at the same time, I'm
• 22:35
  realistic and in a step that there are millions of podcasts
• 22:38
  out there and it's very difficult to make it, but you
• 22:41
  have to stay optimistic in a way, you know?
• 22:43
  Absolutely. So we'll keep we'll keep
• 22:45
  dreaming and eventually we'll get where we We set out to get
• 22:50
  like, yeah, I agree with you and I've said this to several
• 22:52
  different podcasts has that had on the show.
• 22:55
  So, sorry for everyone listening who, you know, finds it annoying
• 22:58
  that I say the same things over and over again.
• 23:00
  But you know what? It's true when you're when
• 23:03
  you're doing podcasts. Not everyone is as committed as
• 23:08
  they should be. And I've seen, you know, like
• 23:10
  I've said many times before I've seen many occasions where people
• 23:13
  set up a podcast and then like yeah I'm going to set up a
• 23:16
  podcast. I'm going to do this and I'm
• 23:17
  like, okay, chat to me again when you're done like 50, guys
• 23:22
  is true. You know, after this is episode
• 23:24
  73 of the podcast and the one thing that I always look at is
• 23:30
  the progression that occurs within that time, you know,
• 23:33
  because there has to be progression.
• 23:34
  Now has to change over time as to get better.
• 23:37
  You I mean, do the process. I always use is try to do one
• 23:42
  better than you did last time, try to always, you know, make
• 23:46
  every single show the Like for instance, if this is the first
• 23:50
  time someone is here in your show, make sure that they want
• 23:54
  more, you know, because if you just half-ass it or don't put
• 23:57
  the effort in or whatever. Then a person might come across
• 24:01
  it and be like, why should I bother?
• 24:02
  And that's not what you want, right?
• 24:04
  You want people to stick around. I always want my next episode to
• 24:08
  get at least one more downloads than the previous one.
• 24:12
  And so, so when that doesn't happen like, you know, you can
• 24:16
  help it but still you little Little bit disappointed.
• 24:19
  Dude, I know where you're coming from like, and this is the
• 24:22
  problem I have with analytics, just in general both on YouTube
• 24:27
  on anchor and all the platforms. Like it's so Random, like I'll
• 24:32
  have here's a good example, I had one episode the other day
• 24:35
  that got like, you know, 50 views on YouTube, which is good
• 24:39
  for me like I don't know. Ten ten downloads or something
• 24:44
  and then the next episode got like three here though and it
• 24:48
  had To do with quality or something like that.
• 24:50
  Episode that people enjoyed it, people really liked it, you
• 24:54
  know? It's just I don't know.
• 24:56
  I think it comes down to, you know, the audience is that the
• 25:01
  people because let's be real every time you have someone on
• 25:04
  your podcast and you're starting out particularly if it's another
• 25:06
  podcast or just so it doesn't, it doesn't even have to be
• 25:09
  another pocket. Just anyone in general, the idea
• 25:12
  is you want to gauge, you want to get into that person's
• 25:15
  audience. So with me you appearing on my
• 25:17
  show You know, benefits us both in different ways.
• 25:20
  So for anyone listening to this podcast, they'll go check you
• 25:23
  out. Maybe you'll gain some more
• 25:25
  subscribers, whatever, and vice versa, I might potentially gain
• 25:29
  some from your audience. That's The Unofficial unspoken
• 25:33
  agreeing, right? Let's let's not dance around it,
• 25:35
  right? But with that, it doesn't always
• 25:38
  work the way you want it to. And, you know, I find that a lot
• 25:41
  of people who aren't podcasters who just asked me about this
• 25:44
  podcast, they're all there. So fixated on numbers The time,
• 25:49
  you know, whether it be the you to the podcast or anything with
• 25:52
  the podcast, it's always. And I said this last episode, so
• 25:55
  I apologize. But it's like, who's the biggest
• 25:57
  guessed you had, you know, whose most famous guest you had and
• 26:00
  it's like, Don't get me wrong, I want to have celebrities in the
• 26:04
  show. That would be awesome.
• 26:05
  And I'm, I am trying believe me, but at the same time, like, you
• 26:11
  know, it's first of all - I want this to be about making good
• 26:16
  conversations and and making good content.
• 26:19
  So that every time my audience, you know, drops by to listen to
• 26:23
  this when it comes out like they're getting something good,
• 26:27
  you know? And just because you have a
• 26:29
  celebrity doesn't make anything good you know me.
• 26:31
  It's like because and I love what we were saying before.
• 26:34
  There's only so much that potential celebrities are
• 26:36
  willing to talk about you know. Yeah.
• 26:38
  What one complaint I always hear like when people were
• 26:40
  interviewing celebrities is like oh you know, I wish they'd ask
• 26:45
  them this or that. Don't you think they tried?
• 26:48
  They probably weren't allowed the pr manager?
• 26:51
  Probably. Absolutely.
• 26:53
  Not no way. Then there's also, the think
• 26:56
  there is plenty of interesting. Regular people out.
• 27:00
  There is one thing I noticed very quickly, you know, someone
• 27:05
  said to me recently and this is stuck with what a lot of things
• 27:08
  stick with me but, you know, you know how it is.
• 27:10
  Sometimes you just hear something and it just, that's
• 27:12
  it. It's, it becomes part of your
• 27:14
  Mantra. What you or your?
• 27:15
  What you think, right? And they said that every single
• 27:17
  person Has either a story to share or something that they
• 27:24
  know that you don't know. And that just blew my mind to
• 27:27
  think about like even when you meet someone who, okay, maybe
• 27:30
  maybe they're a bit of an idiot or maybe they're not.
• 27:32
  So, you know, they're not so bright but like, they'll still
• 27:35
  have something that you don't have.
• 27:39
  And that just blows my mind that fascinates me.
• 27:41
  And there's been so many times, like there's been times on this
• 27:43
  show when like, I interviewed someone and I hear something I
• 27:47
  do now that I didn't use To do before I go into every podcast
• 27:52
  with a blank mind. Now because I used to go in with
• 27:54
  like sort of certain expectations, like I'll probably
• 27:57
  go like this and we'll probably talk about this and blah blah
• 28:00
  blah. But the amount of times that
• 28:02
  people have shared things that I wasn't expecting yeah, I had a
• 28:06
  guy on one time who Like share the story about overcoming
• 28:12
  alcohol addiction which like he just dropped.
• 28:15
  You know, the fact that he'd he'd overcome and I was like Wow
• 28:18
  and I thought okay I got to take a risk and ask him about it and
• 28:22
  I did and he was cool about it and he shared any was really
• 28:26
  inspiring and I just think about stuff like that.
• 28:28
  Like yeah man that's what it's about like with this podcasting,
• 28:32
  in general, this journey it's about and this is probably the
• 28:35
  biggest takeaway that I get as well.
• 28:37
  And the reason I keep doing it is because I really Joy just
• 28:39
  learning from other people and speaking to other people and
• 28:42
  having conversations with other people.
• 28:44
  You know. Exactly.
• 28:45
  That's what I love most about doing all this man.
• 28:47
  That's what you do it for. I love, I love getting to know
• 28:50
  people. You know I'm very social person
• 28:54
  and the people you get to know along the way.
• 28:57
  It's just great, man. So many interesting stories out
• 29:01
  there. Just people who is sharing the
• 29:05
  thing of experience. Yeah, you never know.
• 29:09
  Know what you're going to get into before the interview.
• 29:12
  It's exciting to think about, isn't it?
• 29:13
  That I actually, I genuinely get really excited.
• 29:16
  Every time, the podcast is coming up.
• 29:18
  I like, yeah, come on, let's go. Let's go sure.
• 29:22
  Okay, man. So what are your goals for this
• 29:24
  year? And the reason I keep pressing
• 29:26
  this, this ghost thing is because I think everyone has a
• 29:29
  different approach to what they're trying to do.
• 29:31
  Like to give you an example with my YouTube, I've got three
• 29:34
  YouTube channels, right? And I set myself a goal at the
• 29:36
  beginning of the year, which is not something I normally We do
• 29:39
  normally just have like long term like I eventually want to
• 29:42
  do this, but this year I was like, you know what, I'll try
• 29:45
  and Manifest. This, this is what I'm aiming
• 29:46
  for and I said, like, I'll get 1000 subscribers and the main
• 29:51
  100 on the second 50 on the third.
• 29:53
  And I managed to get, I've already got one of those goals
• 29:55
  already. Got 100 over 100 on the second
• 29:58
  channel. So as ice, this is a good way to
• 30:00
  think about it, and especially I think if you tell your audience
• 30:03
  as well and you keep pushing that fact and keep encouraging
• 30:06
  them and keep trying to do these, like, ctas calls to
• 30:09
  Action. It does kind of push that along,
• 30:11
  especially when I started doing that on YouTube, just like doing
• 30:14
  little things like dropping a promo before the the podcast to
• 30:17
  say, hey, please subscribe. Hey, please check it out.
• 30:20
  Like I think that stuff helps. But yeah, what are your goals
• 30:23
  for this year? That what you trying to trying
• 30:25
  to achieve this? So for the podcast you me?
• 30:28
  Yeah. Let's take it to the podcast
• 30:29
  winner. Right?
• 30:30
  Right, right. So you know of course I like to
• 30:35
  dream big and I'd like to say well I want every episode to get
• 30:38
  100 Ives and downloads on release day.
• 30:41
  But at the same time, I realized that's not realistic, right?
• 30:45
  And so, I tend to have more, like, go with the flow attitude.
• 30:51
  Yeah. To it like, we'll just see how
• 30:53
  it does and if it does bad. Well, there's nothing we can do
• 30:56
  about it does. Well, that's great.
• 30:58
  Actually, I funny story that fits right in there I had to
• 31:04
  take a short break from podcasting because I was dealing
• 31:06
  with some personal stuff, you know, some things that I had to
• 31:09
  figure out and so I didn't check my stats for like a month,
• 31:15
  right? Which is like kind of my, the
• 31:17
  period of my break and after I checked the stats, it turned out
• 31:22
  that one of my episodes blew up in India.
• 31:26
  It at like 300 downloads in India.
• 31:29
  Cool. Do you know why was that was the
• 31:32
  person from India or No, not at all.
• 31:37
  No idea, cook down actually that happened to me one time but on
• 31:41
  YouTube, I had a guest called shoutout to John John Lannan
• 31:44
  who's like a podcaster comedian. And so, the Child author from I
• 31:50
  always was you from a get so somewhere.
• 31:52
  It somewhere in the stays. Sorry, I forgot right.
• 31:54
  Denver, I think Denver. Okay.
• 31:57
  Anyway, yeah. So two things happened.
• 32:01
  That was really weird. His episode blew up and One
• 32:04
  particular clip blew up which I think actually got more views
• 32:08
  than the actual podcast and the end, but nothing else did.
• 32:12
  So every other clip just, you know, tend to use 20 views but
• 32:16
  like the podcast got like 500. I think it's still my most
• 32:21
  viewed episode on YouTube and then this particular clip got
• 32:25
  like five or six hundred views. And I was scratching my head
• 32:27
  because I thinking like, okay I know that he's got an audience,
• 32:30
  I know people listen to him but like not that A like it's I
• 32:35
  don't understand where that came from and maybe it was just, he
• 32:38
  has a big Network, I don't know, but it was it was interesting
• 32:43
  and that's as a scientific mind and I'm sure you do the same.
• 32:46
  Like, you first thing you think is okay, how did this happen?
• 32:49
  How can I sort of try to maybe replicate this?
• 32:52
  Or is there something specifically I did in my
• 32:55
  Approach or, or was it the guest specifically, or what?
• 32:58
  Can I do differently to keep this this upward Trend and it's
• 33:03
  like I do. So for me, there's just real
• 33:06
  inconsistency with everything and that that sounds really -
• 33:09
  but it's not. It's just like there hasn't no
• 33:13
  pattern as established yet so it's I still see it as like
• 33:16
  being in the growing stage, really all right?
• 33:18
  Yeah. Oh yeah, me too, for sure.
• 33:20
  Although one thing that I've done that I think helped is in
• 33:24
  every episode before we get into the main interview.
• 33:27
  I do a segment that I call rewind, what I talk with my
• 33:32
  current guests about Last week's episode and resting, okay?
• 33:38
  And I think for some reason people then see like all right,
• 33:44
  maybe check out that episode after is then and I hope that
• 33:48
  continues like they then listen to the second episode that.
• 33:52
  Well, they talked about this week before this, maybe check
• 33:55
  that check out that as well. But what specifically do you
• 33:57
  talk about in this segment is? Do you sort of say like yeah
• 34:00
  like what will happen tonight? I quiz my guess.
• 34:04
  The episode. So I have like one get one
• 34:06
  question about one question about the main subject.
• 34:10
  Then one question about the guests, some personal question,
• 34:15
  they answered and then something else that was just random
• 34:19
  throughout the episode. But doesn't this presuppose that
• 34:21
  they actually watch the episode or yeah.
• 34:25
  But I know I tell them beforehand, like, is it okay?
• 34:28
  If I ask you a couple of questions about the last week's
• 34:31
  episode, it's okay. If you didn't watch it with it's
• 34:33
  just Get the listeners interested in last week's
• 34:36
  episode. All right, so that literally
• 34:38
  most of the time they're just given their off-the-cuff remarks
• 34:41
  of what they think of the subject.
• 34:42
  And maybe the person as well, just like, oh, maybe I feel this
• 34:45
  way all about this. Yeah.
• 34:47
  All I mean, if they want, I can give them the answers, but most
• 34:51
  people like, now that that's, we don't like that.
• 34:54
  That's just, I'll figure it out, you know?
• 34:57
  And that's, that's really nice. That's a really cool idea, man.
• 35:00
  And I've heard, obviously, similar things.
• 35:02
  There's some wrestling Costs that I listened to that do
• 35:06
  something similar. They have like a, I don't know
• 35:09
  if they do it anymore, but they had this thing where they had
• 35:10
  like viewer questions from the prick, like about the previous
• 35:15
  episode at the beginning of the next episode, and I always
• 35:17
  thought that was a cool concept. Like, especially if you've got
• 35:19
  that audience, like when I have a proper audience for this,
• 35:24
  that's something that I want to do as well when I get some more
• 35:26
  interaction, like one thing I was thinking about straightaway,
• 35:30
  particularly, when I was negotiating, these celebrities
• 35:32
  recently was, oh yeah. Like it'd be good to, you know,
• 35:36
  ask ask the fans, what they would like to know what
• 35:41
  questions they would like, for me to ask the guests, but I
• 35:45
  don't know that I still had a still don't have the audience
• 35:47
  yet, because the last time I did this, it was for the 50th
• 35:52
  episode of my podcast. So I did a special with shout,
• 35:55
  the Dutch deals and we literally just sat down and basically
• 36:02
  interviewed each other. Because we done like a series of
• 36:08
  like social media posts on both of our platforms to ask people,
• 36:12
  like, hey, what would you like to ask us?
• 36:15
  Let's do a nice Christian. Let's do an Ask Dodge deals, not
• 36:18
  one person sent in the question. I literally like we had a good
• 36:29
  time but I was so gutted by that and like that also spelled End
• 36:34
  of doing those as well because I was like no one's going to send
• 36:37
  in any questions. There's no, there's no point is
• 36:39
  just quizzing each other. Exactly.
• 36:41
  Yeah. It's so difficult to get
• 36:43
  engagement like that. Yeah.
• 36:46
  And it's weird because I know that there are people that
• 36:48
  listen to the show, okay, maybe not like Lo it's, but I know
• 36:52
  that there are people. So I was really perplexed by
• 36:55
  that, and, you know, obviously, I'm not going to sit cry about
• 36:57
  it but, hmm, buzzer, that's a bit of a shame.
• 37:00
  But, you know, you just gotta keep Truckin, keep trying and
• 37:02
  hope that maybe in the future, Future will be different, but
• 37:06
  yeah. Now when I was pretty
• 37:07
  interesting. Yeah, I do.
• 37:09
  I totally understand. I, I know the feeling we've all
• 37:14
  been there. We've all been there.
• 37:17
  What do you think of the key elements or necessary for a
• 37:20
  successful podcast? Well, first, you need to find
• 37:26
  out what, what your audience wants, right?
• 37:30
  And people say, people say if you're speaking to everyone,
• 37:33
  you're speaking to no one. I mean, that's something I read
• 37:38
  like in. Oh, sorry.
• 37:40
  And I do when I was doing like research and how to start a
• 37:43
  podcast. It was like, well, you need to
• 37:44
  find a niche market and I was like, I don't want to do that.
• 37:48
  Yeah. So I disagree with that fact.
• 37:53
  You can do about whatever you think is interesting and people
• 37:58
  will join in if they think the same.
• 38:02
  So so many people have said that to me, not just about podcasting
• 38:06
  but YouTube the like, oh, you know, you shouldn't do multi
• 38:09
  content because, you know, it's there's too many people from
• 38:13
  coming to your channel from different places and they'll be
• 38:15
  expecting to see certain stuff and it's like that I'm trying to
• 38:18
  get people to be like fans of me and my brand.
• 38:21
  That sounds like egotistical but that's not how it's supposed to
• 38:24
  be intense. That's exactly the best fun
• 38:27
  today. Yeah, like what I mean by that
• 38:29
  is, like, you want people to be interested in use that when you
• 38:32
  put any content out of any description, they're excited
• 38:35
  about that. Like, if I don't know, if I go
• 38:37
  watch much some of my favorite YouTubers, like, I don't know,
• 38:41
  KSI, for example, right? Sometimes there is stuff that he
• 38:45
  releases that, I don't want to watch, it's rare, but like there
• 38:48
  will be like, like okay, what he if he does like this, he does
• 38:51
  these Leo's once in a blue moon, where it's like the most
• 38:54
  dangerous sport series or something.
• 38:56
  Right. And I just don't like those
• 38:58
  videos because I don't like me, like sports.
• 39:00
  But everything else he does. I love.
• 39:02
  And technically, if it was anyone else doing it, I wouldn't
• 39:07
  sort of be interested than the Jean.
• 39:09
  Like, I'm not really interested in watching.
• 39:10
  Try not to laugh challenge has, but because it's him, and
• 39:13
  because it's the way he does, it is interesting to me.
• 39:17
  And that's the way that I approach podcasting and YouTube,
• 39:21
  and Saying it's like, okay, I'm just going to do what I want.
• 39:23
  Do what I like put it out and you know hope that people join
• 39:28
  me on this journey and support me, you know what I mean?
• 39:31
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 39:32
  And then what I also think is important is you need you need
• 39:37
  some good audio quality and you need to get the editing done,
• 39:42
  right? Because if it's if you have like
• 39:45
  a shitty microphone, like I do right now, sorry for that.
• 39:50
  Then it's like people will start listening with Susan
• 39:54
  expectations and then they may get annoyed.
• 39:59
  If your quality is not that good.
• 40:01
  I mean, I don't know if that's a fact, but that's something that
• 40:05
  I can imagine right? I sort of agree and disagree
• 40:08
  with you at the same time now, sound bizarre, but okay, bear
• 40:12
  with me. So I agree in the sense that yes
• 40:16
  especially with the podcast audio quality is probably the
• 40:20
  most important aspect. Because, you know, especially if
• 40:24
  not just a video side but the the audio only so you know,
• 40:27
  that's the only thing that people were interacting with.
• 40:29
  So if it's poor quality, it might put people off.
• 40:32
  But with that being said, you know, there's a lot of content
• 40:36
  creators, icy out there and podcasters who, you know, don't
• 40:40
  have the good quality stuff. Like, even when I started this
• 40:42
  podcast, I didn't have a professional Mike.
• 40:44
  I just had like some cheap thing I bought in Europe, right?
• 40:48
  It was terrible but I figured, you know what?
• 40:49
  I just want to start this. I want to do this.
• 40:51
  Like, I can get a better mic down the line, it will happen
• 40:55
  and lo and behold it did happen, you know, it happened.
• 40:58
  Eventually right now I don't want to discourage anyone from
• 41:02
  starting out with, with cheaper equipment.
• 41:07
  Yeah. But what I'm saying, though, is
• 41:08
  that the content? I know, I just said that, the
• 41:11
  audio aspect might be the important most important thing
• 41:14
  by actually disagree with that. I think the most important
• 41:17
  aspect is the content is like, what you're putting out there
• 41:20
  because people People, people, that support you and I've had
• 41:24
  the same. I've had people say to me like,
• 41:26
  oh yeah, I love what you do, but I wish you would, you know, you
• 41:29
  would do this. And I'm like, I want to like new
• 41:32
  gaming people say, oh, why don't you do new gaming videos and I
• 41:35
  might trust me, if I had a gaming PC.
• 41:38
  Good internet. I would do it.
• 41:40
  Okay, I would do it but I don't and I don't have the means to do
• 41:44
  so and I'm trying to put myself in a position where I can.
• 41:47
  It's just like, that's good. That's kind of what my First
• 41:52
  point was, if you're, if you are putting out content that your
• 41:56
  audience is interested in, then that's fine.
• 41:59
  So that's the first point. I made just need to have good
• 42:05
  content. That is what is this trash
• 42:09
  content? That's the lesson.
• 42:11
  Yep, actually, I think I think it takes time though.
• 42:14
  Like, I was listening to someone for sure.
• 42:16
  Absolutely. Like my older episodes earlier
• 42:18
  this week and I mean I still think that good but like you
• 42:22
  know I look at them and I'm like I feel much more confident now.
• 42:25
  I feel like it's much better now but that's that's just growth.
• 42:29
  That's just how growth works. You start being trash at
• 42:32
  something and you get better through time.
• 42:34
  I went to my first episode when I listen back like it's the
• 42:40
  first time I ever recorded anything.
• 42:43
  I was very nervous. You know, and you can hear that
• 42:47
  and then if you listen to the episodes, Put it now.
• 42:50
  It's like, all right I've done this before.
• 42:52
  I know what I want to ask. I know what we're going to talk
• 42:55
  about. So yeah, it's definitely great.
• 42:59
  That that just goes as well, doesn't it?
• 43:00
  Like I felt exactly the same because originally I didn't plan
• 43:04
  for this to be a interview podcast, like I figured like, oh
• 43:07
  I might be cool to have guests every now and again, but I plan
• 43:10
  for it to be discussion-based but then I just started getting
• 43:13
  guests more and more and it developed into what it's become.
• 43:18
  But yeah, those first. The say, 10, 15 episodes.
• 43:22
  I was nervous as hell. I was, you know, like I've been
• 43:24
  bought my 10th episode. I had this this musician from
• 43:29
  Estonia so basically I'll just quickly explain, I lived in
• 43:32
  Estonia for three years and I became a big part like a fan of
• 43:36
  all of the music. They're right.
• 43:38
  And this particular hero of mine who's a musician though guy
• 43:42
  called Mark, including has agreed to be on my show and
• 43:47
  like, for me, I felt like I just hit The jackpot.
• 43:50
  I was so excited. It was like my 10th episode and
• 43:53
  this guy's going to end. It didn't look like I was going
• 43:55
  to happen that it happened last minute and I was like, oh my God
• 43:58
  and I felt so nervous and so oh yeah, like like scare like
• 44:02
  panicking. Like oh my God, I hope I don't
• 44:04
  mess this up and then as soon as we started talking, it was fine.
• 44:08
  And I sort of just obviously the whole time.
• 44:10
  I was like, you know, but like I was I okay, just keep it
• 44:13
  professional. Keep it like what you do all the
• 44:16
  time they call and it'll be fine.
• 44:19
  And it was it turned out very good and I was, you know, after
• 44:22
  that, I sort of realized, like, do you know what you just have
• 44:24
  to approach every single podcast, like it doesn't matter
• 44:27
  who the guest is just consistency is key, I think but
• 44:32
  yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I agree with that.
• 44:35
  So, let's move it forward. What's it, like, living in the
• 44:39
  Netherlands? I know that's going to sound
• 44:41
  like a weird question. You were born and raised there,
• 44:43
  but like, so let's tell us on the Netherlands.
• 44:45
  Good. And the bad.
• 44:47
  You see that? That's always such a difficult
• 44:49
  question to. Honestly, I know, I know.
• 44:51
  It's like, what's it like, living in America, right?
• 44:55
  It's the same. Well, it's not the same, with
• 44:57
  the same kind of question, but all right, let's try well right
• 45:02
  now. It's shit.
• 45:03
  I can tell you that much. Okay, we're ready.
• 45:06
  We're in lockdown. Okay, let's forget about lot
• 45:09
  down for a second. Let's say, like, lockdowns not a
• 45:12
  thing. Like what?
• 45:13
  I need to get my frustrations out of the way for a second.
• 45:16
  Do it go for it? Go for it.
• 45:17
  Yeah, I I used to get a haircut every Two weeks.
• 45:20
  And now I haven't been able to get a haircut for like three
• 45:23
  months and my hair is just wild. This is a dude, what we've been
• 45:28
  shut since or like end of December and let the barbershops
• 45:33
  don't open till April so I'm like right?
• 45:35
  Yeah. But all in that then we're not
• 45:38
  in lockdown. It's a great country and I know
• 45:41
  that some people, you know, people in other parts of the
• 45:48
  world's few Europe acid Communist kind of place which
• 45:56
  are free healthcare, and you give all your money to the
• 45:59
  government. That's not the case.
• 46:01
  It's not, it's not true. It's, you know, everyone here
• 46:08
  makes a good living. If you if you get sick you don't
• 46:13
  die, you know, and you don't get 100.
• 46:19
  Of thousands. You don't get thousands of Euros
• 46:22
  in death, dude, just because she needs to adjust, dude.
• 46:27
  That's a very underrated Point as one underrated.
• 46:30
  But like, it's a very good point.
• 46:32
  Like, I often think about especially, you know, when I
• 46:35
  started living abroad and then I compared that to living in the
• 46:38
  UK. I sort of realized how lucky I
• 46:41
  am to be from here because, you know, things like healthcare.
• 46:45
  I mean, you take it for granted, you know, like the split is
• 46:49
  About America. Like I hate I have heard of
• 46:51
  people. Oh yeah you know it's cheaper
• 46:54
  for them to for example get a taxi to the hospital then it is
• 46:58
  to actually get an ambulance because we had around, you know,
• 47:01
  I like I've heard of instances where people have turned down
• 47:05
  surgery because they just can't afford it all like that.
• 47:09
  The doctors wouldn't operate on them because the person didn't
• 47:12
  have it, they couldn't say. Yeah.
• 47:14
  You know, I do. I think the differences between
• 47:18
  the UK and the Alongside very small at least smaller than
• 47:22
  people might think we're really small body of water away.
• 47:28
  Yeah. You know what?
• 47:29
  It's like it. I don't know.
• 47:31
  I go to university, right? Yeah, you're at work.
• 47:36
  What are you studying at University?
• 47:39
  Business management business management.
• 47:43
  What do you plan to do with that?
• 47:44
  What's the plan? No idea yet, if I want to, what
• 47:51
  if possible? I'd like to grow my own
• 47:52
  business, that I'm currently running, like, to grow it and
• 47:56
  maybe turn it into something big that I can.
• 48:00
  I mean I can make a living off of it right now but I don't have
• 48:04
  a lot of expenses yet and I hope that it keeps growing and you
• 48:09
  know, it will be something for the future.
• 48:12
  Yeah. So this is actually real quick
• 48:16
  so it's a translation agency, I mentioned it a preamble.
• 48:21
  Yeah. Talk to us a little bit more
• 48:22
  about this company. Like how did that actually come
• 48:25
  to be like obviously translating is like a very common thing but
• 48:29
  like right. How did this happen for you like
• 48:32
  alright accommodate I was working at Burger King.
• 48:38
  It was a new job at work there for like a month and then I got
• 48:41
  my first paycheck and it turned out I didn't quite make what I
• 48:46
  thought I was making so the very next day I went to my manager.
• 48:52
  I said I'm quitting. I'm not I'm not getting out of
• 48:54
  bed for this amount of money, right?
• 48:58
  Was it a situation where? Like was it an overtime thing?
• 49:02
  Like you worked a lot a ton of hours and they just didn't pay
• 49:04
  it or something or no, not really.
• 49:09
  It was more like I don't even know what happened.
• 49:11
  Exactly. Was it was a shit show but what
• 49:17
  what it came down to was they said you would get like bonuses
• 49:21
  for this and that and you would actually get paid more.
• 49:26
  Alright, so minimum wage or something.
• 49:30
  Went up with how old you are like your age.
• 49:33
  So an eighteen-year-old makes more their seventy-year-old,
• 49:36
  right? And they said that you wouldn't
• 49:37
  make as much or how do you say that you would make as much
• 49:44
  money as as if you were one year all then you actually were
• 49:47
  right. Okay.
• 49:48
  So that wasn't true, you didn't get the bonuses and it was just
• 49:53
  all these kinds of things that didn't really work out.
• 49:57
  And so I was done with it very quickly, right?
• 50:00
  Right? And then then I thought to
• 50:02
  myself, alright I'm Legit I should have before we get to the
• 50:05
  the translation think just because you a bit about Burger
• 50:08
  King because I didn't actually know that.
• 50:10
  Sure. Yeah.
• 50:11
  Like I know it's very quick in your life, you know.
• 50:14
  Like I don't know ask the obvious questions because you
• 50:17
  know I have friends that worked in the food service industry and
• 50:20
  I know how difficult it can be. I've worked in Hospitality of
• 50:23
  worked in retail those. So I do know I can relate a
• 50:26
  little bit but what would what were the kind of Worst things
• 50:30
  about working at this job, but why did it suck so much?
• 50:33
  I, it was, it was fun. I had a lot of fun there, but it
• 50:38
  is, I think, my time is worth more than four Euros an hour,
• 50:44
  right? If they I first went to to
• 50:49
  management, I said, well, I'm going to need a race and they
• 50:52
  were like, yeah, we can't do that.
• 50:54
  You're 17, you're further a month.
• 50:55
  We can't give you a raise. I was like, all right.
• 51:00
  I'll give you my two weeks notice.
• 51:02
  Yeah, that's really smart as well.
• 51:04
  I know that all sound like really obvious to a lot people
• 51:07
  listening but you know, this idea of valuing your time and
• 51:12
  understanding your worth as far as you know what your time and
• 51:16
  also your skill sets and everything like that.
• 51:19
  Like you know, there's so many people either, they don't
• 51:20
  realize like Yeah, just just the they should be negotiating more,
• 51:26
  they should be, you know, if a place won't give you what you
• 51:28
  want, go somewhere else, why stick with that place?
• 51:30
  That gives you nothing. You know, they're never gonna
• 51:32
  change their mind. If they say no the first time
• 51:35
  then they're not going to say yes the second or third time.
• 51:38
  You know what I mean? Get out of that go somewhere
• 51:40
  that will give you that money. Exactly.
• 51:42
  Yeah. And other than that, the job was
• 51:46
  a lot of fun. Like I had great co-workers when
• 51:49
  people weren't looking with have water fights in the kitchen.
• 51:54
  I guess it was all people your age then was it yeah that's
• 51:58
  awesome and the kids running the show.
• 52:02
  Yeah it was it was pretty great when your friends come in and
• 52:06
  you like you make an extra burger and you don't, you don't
• 52:09
  make them pay for it. You know.
• 52:10
  Did you get any sort of get me like, crazy customers or
• 52:14
  anything usual unusual? Yeah, absolutely, people yelling
• 52:18
  from but from the other side of the council asking where the
• 52:22
  food is, Is and why it's taking so long?
• 52:24
  Look, I don't know. Was there any particular
• 52:27
  experiences that stand out for you?
• 52:29
  Anything that just like the stock of you?
• 52:31
  Like, I don't know, particularly crazy customer or something
• 52:34
  super rude, or we're disgusting or something.
• 52:39
  Let me think about that. Well, one time I had, this is
• 52:45
  Lady as she paid in cash. So I gave her her change and she
• 52:52
  said that I hadn't given her enough to change.
• 52:54
  Now this was after she had gone back to her table and I don't
• 52:58
  care some money but I knew for sure that I did the right thing,
• 53:03
  right? And so she went to my manager
• 53:08
  and she's like, well, this guy is ripping me off and I was like
• 53:11
  that's bullshit. So, We went to count because the
• 53:18
  registers that account how much money goes out and in, right?
• 53:22
  So we had to check all of the all of the amounts of money that
• 53:26
  had gotten in there and to eventually the tomb and how much
• 53:30
  I had given it, right? And it turned out, I was right,
• 53:34
  of course, right. Yeah.
• 53:37
  It was this entire force about it.
• 53:39
  Like, I don't know, a couple of cents 50 cents, or something
• 53:42
  like that. It was crazy.
• 53:44
  I don't like people like make such a fuss over such small
• 53:46
  people, man. For sure, I've had the same
• 53:49
  thing. I remember one time I was I was
• 53:51
  working in the supermarket and it was like Christmas time so
• 53:54
  you'd expect people to be nicer around Christmas, right?
• 53:57
  Okay. If anything they'll worse at
• 53:58
  Christmas. But there was this one girl
• 54:00
  particular guy who came in and He basically, we had like a
• 54:08
  separate till set up, it was like an extra tool for Christmas
• 54:11
  time. And yeah, I'm I'm terrible at
• 54:13
  math. So I always have been just, I'm
• 54:15
  useless at maths. So I was taking me a while to
• 54:19
  like work out, the chip. Basically, he gave me more money
• 54:21
  than what I needed, because he wanted to see if it changed
• 54:24
  back, right? And that flummox me, I was like,
• 54:27
  oh crap. And I was trying to work out,
• 54:29
  and basically, he's just like, why?
• 54:31
  Why have you not, why have you not giving this money where you
• 54:34
  were Why is it taking so long? Why are you not giving the money
• 54:36
  to do? What?
• 54:37
  I don't understand. Get me a manager now over and
• 54:39
  like he just I don't know. I had this like sinking feeling.
• 54:43
  I was like yeah yeah. And you just get people like
• 54:48
  that all the time because in service it's like another I
• 54:51
  think they just forget that you're human, you know.
• 54:56
  Oh yeah. People yelling at you or you're
• 55:00
  just doing your job, it's like it's such an unreasonable thing
• 55:03
  to do. and it's like, I feel like there's this like Okay.
• 55:08
  Like if that was in the street, if that was just like, you take,
• 55:11
  take it out of context for a second.
• 55:13
  Yeah, it wouldn't be acceptable, you go at them, right?
• 55:16
  But all you just wouldn't do that necessarily.
• 55:19
  But for some reason in the context of a customer service
• 55:22
  situation, people just seem to, you know, forget about how to
• 55:28
  treat other human beings and just allow, oh, well, you know,
• 55:31
  I can treat them like shit. That's fine.
• 55:33
  And it's like, yeah. What I hate is people get, but
• 55:40
  there's so many of them. It's like many of the majority
• 55:43
  of people can maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration, but like a
• 55:46
  lot of people, I mean, you know, it's like I've said this before.
• 55:51
  So sorry everyone, listening. He's heard me say this a million
• 55:53
  times before, but like, when I made the shift, from from retail
• 55:59
  jobs to like you, no more Hospitality based stuff when I
• 56:02
  was at Uni, I remember, Thinking like how easy I'd had it at the
• 56:07
  supermarket because I used to complain years ago below.
• 56:10
  This heard this so much but I'd had it pretty pretty easy there.
• 56:14
  And then when I started serving people waiting tables bartending
• 56:18
  delivering coffee, you know serving like 500 people and
• 56:22
  middle of summer and it's boiling and you're understaffed
• 56:24
  and like you just see the worst side of the people and sand like
• 56:29
  even people who are sitting in the sunshine, who should be
• 56:33
  enjoying their time, We'll find stuff to complain about and
• 56:37
  we'll just be miserable and you're like I mean, because it's
• 56:41
  the difference between working out when people actually have a
• 56:45
  reasonable reason to actually complain or if they're just
• 56:50
  malcontents which I find is a lot of people in.
• 56:54
  It's a lot. Yeah.
• 56:55
  It's like you nothing will make them happy.
• 56:57
  Then of course there were also a lot of very nice people.
• 57:01
  People who are very sure. Fred Leon who make a
• 57:03
  conversation like Having a good day.
• 57:06
  What's it like working here? Like I hope you have a good day
• 57:08
  as well. Also, what surprised me is, how
• 57:14
  many people give their phone number to the guy behind the
• 57:18
  counter at Burger King? I gotta go.
• 57:22
  I had a couple of I was 17, right?
• 57:25
  Well, goes goes, yeah, I just, yeah, I had a couple of girls,
• 57:29
  just slip me their number on the receipt, all right.
• 57:36
  It must be the voice. Yeah, I bet I bet it's not, you
• 57:39
  know, well they might what accent is my accent?
• 57:42
  Is this noise in Dutch? I have I have a Southern accent
• 57:46
  which most people look down upon but it's fine.
• 57:49
  You never know man, you never know what the ladies like, you'd
• 57:52
  be surprised you'd be my guess when I hear my voice, I just
• 57:56
  want to, you know, end it all. But apparently some women over
• 58:00
  the years have been like, I like your voice.
• 58:01
  And I'm like, really what you like the sound of cats being And
• 58:05
  strangled, I don't understand like you have a nice voice we
• 58:09
  can say I want that wasn't me fishing for compliments by the
• 58:11
  way. That's just how I feel.
• 58:14
  I genuinely feel that way. Very pretty.
• 58:19
  No but it's like you know especially when you have to
• 58:21
  listen to yourself constantly when you're doing editing or
• 58:24
  costliest. I I can't hear myself talking
• 58:33
  Dutch but in It's fine. If I hit myself recorded in
• 58:38
  Dutch like stuff at that, that brings me walking.
• 58:43
  That brings me to another question and we'll get back to
• 58:45
  the translation agency stuff. Oh yeah, sure.
• 58:47
  Just one more question. Don't worry.
• 58:50
  It's not Burger King related. What was the reason for you
• 58:53
  actually deciding to do the podcast in English?
• 58:56
  Because this is something that I found a lot of podcast is that
• 58:59
  I've interviewed from Europe, have tended to do and don't get
• 59:03
  me wrong, like, I understand the appeal, Eel.
• 59:05
  And the the logic that of sense that it makes like, obviously
• 59:09
  I'm going to do an English or have more International appeal
• 59:12
  and stuff, but like one thing that always confuses me is like,
• 59:15
  why not have like say to you completely different podcast,
• 59:18
  one in, say Dutch one in English or or have a mixture or maybe
• 59:23
  even just only in Dutch. Like, what what was the decision
• 59:25
  making process behind only doing it in English?
• 59:29
  Well, first of all, like you said, there are so many more
• 59:33
  people who speak English. Advantage.
• 59:38
  And besides that, the thing I want to do is I want to have
• 59:42
  experts on with knowledge on a certain topic and I mean I'm
• 59:48
  sure I can find someone who plays Cooling and then Island
• 59:53
  somewhere but it's not going to be a world champion, right?
• 59:57
  And so the guess that I'm looking for there, they all
• 1:00:00
  speak English as well for the most part, so that was a factor.
• 1:00:05
  Then, I don't know. I feel like my level of any, my
• 1:00:08
  level of English is good enough to actually have a conversation
• 1:00:12
  in English with someone and have it.
• 1:00:13
  Make sense and I just feel comfortable speaking English.
• 1:00:19
  And I don't know, I never really even really considered doing a
• 1:00:22
  podcast in Dutch. I'm not sure.
• 1:00:24
  Do you not think it potentially alienate people who might be
• 1:00:29
  interested in your podcast, in your home country that don't
• 1:00:32
  necessarily speak it? Now, I know that's going to
• 1:00:34
  sound Bit dumb to. A lot of people listening to be
• 1:00:36
  like, well, surely most Dutch people speak English, but you'd
• 1:00:40
  be surprised that when I lived in Estonia, I remember there was
• 1:00:43
  a lot of people. I'd me sometimes, even in the
• 1:00:46
  city wouldn't speak English. It was normally older
• 1:00:49
  generations and that made sense, historically and stuff.
• 1:00:52
  But like, even sometimes younger people, you know, I remember me
• 1:00:55
  and young people that didn't speak English or only spoke a
• 1:00:57
  lot, and it made me think a lot about this.
• 1:00:59
  So, you know, need you ever think about that?
• 1:01:03
  Or, I mean, that could be b-but. The biggest part of my audience
• 1:01:09
  is from the United States, look right now, and then there's the
• 1:01:14
  Netherlands and then there's India.
• 1:01:17
  It's So Random, isn't it is the same for me?
• 1:01:19
  It's like, 50. Last time.
• 1:01:20
  I looked is like, 54 percent us and then like 20% English, like
• 1:01:26
  my people hate me. Illinois interests.
• 1:01:28
  Yeah, fine. I'll go to America.
• 1:01:32
  They'll appreciate me, right? It's funny how that split goes
• 1:01:36
  because sometimes you look at those stats and for those who
• 1:01:40
  don't use podcast to want to get into podcasts, I highly
• 1:01:43
  recommend checking out anchor because it gives you a really
• 1:01:45
  cool kind of breakdown of the analytics as far as like country
• 1:01:49
  by country is concerned. And I found some interesting
• 1:01:51
  statistics, they're like of like particular people from
• 1:01:55
  particular countries that listen to me and I might really like
• 1:01:57
  why do people from their listen to me?
• 1:02:00
  Like, right that's random said I have this this one guy in the
• 1:02:05
  ceremony. South Korea.
• 1:02:06
  We just listened to all my episodes.
• 1:02:08
  Oh, this is like the numbers. Don't go up to South Korea.
• 1:02:12
  It's just that one guy, I figure.
• 1:02:14
  This is a shout out to that guy if you by any chance ever finds
• 1:02:19
  this episode, I do to you. That's all he should be.
• 1:02:24
  For sure, will be for sure. Okay, man.
• 1:02:28
  Yeah, let's let's bring it back to the translation translation.
• 1:02:31
  All right, now because I did cut you off, but I wanted to push
• 1:02:34
  the more, the Burger King. For a little bit.
• 1:02:36
  So yeah, it's a translation agency that you've set up.
• 1:02:41
  Now I find this interesting because There are a lot of
• 1:02:45
  pretty professional translators that can't speak pans
• 1:02:49
  professional translators out there who tend to sort of do
• 1:02:53
  work on a freelance basis. So just project-by-project, what
• 1:02:56
  actually prompted you to set up an entire agency, as opposed to
• 1:02:59
  just doing it freelance. All right, so I started out as a
• 1:03:02
  freelancer and I was hired by this, by these companies, who
• 1:03:07
  then like, they get these big assignments and they cut them up
• 1:03:10
  and divide them between Freelancers.
• 1:03:14
  But, you know, I went to think about it and I was like, hmm.
• 1:03:19
  All these guys are doing is dividing these assignments.
• 1:03:24
  I could do that, right? And so I was like, wow!
• 1:03:28
  What the hell? I'm just going to try it and I
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  set up the agency and I was like, if it doesn't work, it
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  doesn't work. And I'll go back to freelancing
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  if it works. I can still continue freelancing
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  if I want but I have this on the side.
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  And that second scenario is the case right now where I do some
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  assignments that I give to other people and then on the side I
• 1:03:56
  can still do my own projects that I'm working on.
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  So yeah, that's kind of how that happens in like what's your
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  process like? As far as, you know, approaching
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  the translation of documents and text and stuff.
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  Well it's quite simple actually. Just have to look at the.
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  You just look at the documents and then you you see if there
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  are any special things that you have to take into account for
• 1:04:26
  that, specific document like vocabulary.
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  So, whatever, usually the companies sent these, like if
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  there are a lot of abbreviations, usually get like
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  a sheet that says what they all mean.
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  And that it's just sit down and do it.
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  But if I, but now the reason I ask is because like, sometimes
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  when you're when you're translating from from language
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  to language, like something is on even translatable.
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  Sometimes it's quite specific to a particular language or
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  culture. That's something I learned when
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  I was in Estonia that even to this day like I could I could
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  relate to other Estonian have been like, yeah, I get that but
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  like if I try to explain it to anyone that has never been
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  there, it's like Are you just going to be there and to get it?
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  It's right thing. It just it's like that, you know
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  that's that's funny. When you're translating
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  something from English to Dutch, right?
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  You run into that a lot because Dutch they use a lot of English,
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  right words. And yeah, well that's the end of
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  my sentence basically but that's the end of that chapter.
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  So, for example, if I have to translate the if someone said
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  you have to think out of the box like out of the box, we just say
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  out-of-the-box danken. And then thinking is thinking,
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  yeah, it's I know, I know what you mean like especially like I
• 1:06:00
  have a flatmate for instance who's Portuguese, doesn't speak
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  any English. He's learning, but he's it's
• 1:06:06
  hard for him. He's only recently come to the
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  UK and Sometimes I'll just say you know like a saying that I
• 1:06:15
  think nothing got off right and then he'll ask me all, what does
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  that mean? And then I'm like oh how do I
• 1:06:21
  explain that like because again it comes back to what I said
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  before about like some things are specific or he's just an
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  expression but like people know exactly what you mean straight
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  away. But it's very difficult to
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  explain it because it's more of like a way of summing up a
• 1:06:36
  feeling or a situation or like a metaphor for something and it's
• 1:06:41
  like How what? Why do I even start, right?
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  Yeah, so it's really like it. Hey, I have an idea.
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  If you're interested, I was a guest on a podcast.
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  Some time ago was a comedy podcast and we did a segment,
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  but I read out some Dutch words and I have them guess what?
• 1:07:05
  They meet. So I can, I can see if I still
• 1:07:07
  have a file and I can it can see if you what you Like see how
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  good you are in Dutch speaking Dutch or just figure.
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  I don't know if you can figure out what they mean, I'll give it
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  a go. I mean hosting, I know a little
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  bit too Duchess, probably German, but that's not really
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  nice. It's kind of similar but not its
• 1:07:31
  Similar you, maybe it will be an advantage.
• 1:07:38
  This would be interested to see if the most I know how it's a
• 1:07:44
  and Duchess there's this song by a guy called Lil Kleine and I
• 1:07:49
  know like like one verse from that song but I don't really
• 1:07:54
  know what I mean. I'm conducts.
• 1:07:57
  Yeah I think it is. It's a bit he's like yeah it's
• 1:08:00
  like as a bitch field didn't eat today.
• 1:08:02
  Beloved in done her, go ahead and Lead are laying down a dunk
• 1:08:06
  India's. You get done let's go and do
• 1:08:09
  something like that. Yeah yep it's I can translate it
• 1:08:16
  for you. He says if you bitch wants to
• 1:08:21
  hang out it's not a problem. I will go there because I have
• 1:08:25
  booze and drugs. That's us.
• 1:08:29
  Always says and then it just repeats that over and oh that's
• 1:08:32
  just for us. Straight to the point, isn't it?
• 1:08:34
  Yeah. Yep.
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  Yep. Good stuff.
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  Alright or have actually found the file still had it.
• 1:08:41
  Okay. So so just as a warm-up round,
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  let's let's do this one. All right, get in the car and
• 1:08:51
  we'll stop talked for guiding Spirits.
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  I'm Hayden. What say that again slower?
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  Didn't look on walls up to for guidance Vex.
• 1:09:04
  I'm here. It's one word, it's one word.
• 1:09:11
  Yeah, is it something to do with kids?
• 1:09:16
  Yeah. It's the when there's a
• 1:09:18
  carnivals parade for children. Oh yeah, two preparations.
• 1:09:23
  And that's what that word means because I heard Kindler.
• 1:09:26
  Now, I know in German. Yeah, Quinta sister is right
• 1:09:33
  cool. And so, in Dutch, you can, you
• 1:09:35
  can basically just keep adding nouns and it will still be one
• 1:09:40
  boot. That's ridiculous.
• 1:09:44
  That is ridiculous. Yeah, All right.
• 1:09:46
  All right. We'll we'll do one.
• 1:09:48
  I have some multiple choice once if you want.
• 1:09:50
  Sure. Okay, let's find next one is
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  kick it. This is it a the Frog.
• 1:09:59
  Be the soccer player will see, cauliflower.
• 1:10:05
  Say again. Kika.
• 1:10:11
  Is it cauliflower? Now it's a frog.
• 1:10:17
  I knew it wasn't a soccer bag says that NASA trick, testator
• 1:10:20
  it. Well, it was too obvious, right?
• 1:10:22
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:10:28
  All right. All right.
• 1:10:29
  We'll do one more or maybe more for one is fine.
• 1:10:34
  Spin that guys. Is it a pigeon?
• 1:10:38
  Be peanut butter will see a plumber?
• 1:10:42
  Say the word again. Pin that gas plumber.
• 1:10:56
  No, it's peanut butter. It literally means peanut
• 1:10:59
  cheese. Peanut, she sounds wrong.
• 1:11:07
  So, yeah, that's the crazy language that we call Dutch that
• 1:11:11
  Dutch is cooled Dutch messes with my head, man, because it's
• 1:11:14
  like, it sounds like to me, it sounds like German meet English
• 1:11:21
  but not because it's his own language.
• 1:11:26
  This is my head so much and danish is the same as well.
• 1:11:31
  Danish sounds weird in my head, it's Scandinavian languages are
• 1:11:36
  very similar to like Dutch and German.
• 1:11:39
  But I actually I actually learned Swedish in like a couple
• 1:11:43
  of months because was just so similar to touch everything in
• 1:11:47
  every aspect. Wow.
• 1:11:49
  I saw I didn't know that they were shared and in some straight
• 1:11:53
  paths and there probably are. Some shape or form and then do
• 1:11:57
  they have a lot of shared words, or was it just similar-sounding
• 1:11:59
  or something? No it.
• 1:12:02
  Yeah, similar-sounding. But then I also already knew
• 1:12:07
  German, right? And so some parts were similar
• 1:12:11
  to Dutch and some parts were similar to the German and you
• 1:12:13
  just picked up very quickly because it's all the same
• 1:12:16
  language, family. Cool.
• 1:12:20
  Yeah. Let's move it forward, right?
• 1:12:23
  Who do you draw inspiration from Christian Reeves.
• 1:12:29
  Ha ha ha, seriously. My favorite comedian actually?
• 1:12:38
  Jim Jeffries is, I don't know if you've ever heard of him.
• 1:12:43
  See the guy that does the Puppeteer in no?
• 1:12:47
  That's Jeff Dunham, I think. Okay, then.
• 1:12:50
  I don't know who this guy is. This is an Australian comedian.
• 1:12:56
  Oh, hang on. Is he the guy that does like
• 1:12:58
  really like how can I put this? Risk a human.
• 1:13:05
  Let's put it that way. I keep famous.
• 1:13:08
  You did a famous famously, did a joke about Islam.
• 1:13:10
  That was pretty brutal or something, I'm not sure about
• 1:13:14
  that. He is, he is famous for his
• 1:13:17
  routine on gun control. Hmm.
• 1:13:19
  I think I think I know the guy you're on about, right?
• 1:13:23
  And you still super funny but then then we hear him talk about
• 1:13:27
  live and the things he has gone through like substance abuse.
• 1:13:31
  And Fresh and things. Like he's very open about that.
• 1:13:36
  I think all around. He's just a very inspiring guy
• 1:13:39
  because he, he copes using comedy and that's great.
• 1:13:45
  Is that I think people should laugh more.
• 1:13:47
  Is that something that you do as well?
• 1:13:49
  Do you use comedy as a sort of way of therapy or two?
• 1:13:52
  Oh sure. Yeah, went up, like, when I get
• 1:13:57
  uncomfortable somewhere, I just start trying to be funny or I
• 1:14:02
  just start laughing just to get out of the situation.
• 1:14:07
  It's a defense mechanism, almost.
• 1:14:09
  It's not, it's not bad wave. Yeah, that it's kind of similar
• 1:14:12
  in the UK actually, there's this joke that like whenever you
• 1:14:15
  first meet another Englishman, like, you know it's the first to
• 1:14:19
  crack a joke, you know? I mean like break the tension
• 1:14:21
  break, the ice sort of speak it. Sort of thing is it's a weird
• 1:14:24
  thing that we always try to make each other laugh but it's like
• 1:14:27
  that's how I don't know. We at least feel comfortable
• 1:14:30
  around each other is by laughing like you.
• 1:14:32
  It's a good way of just making everyone feel at ease or
• 1:14:35
  suppose, right? Yeah, cool, man.
• 1:14:39
  Cool, cool. So, this is a bit of a deeper
• 1:14:43
  question, but I've been asking my guests, this lately, and it
• 1:14:46
  always gets a unique response. What is the biggest life lesson
• 1:14:51
  that you've learned so far? That's that's quite a lot to
• 1:15:00
  just lay down and someone man. It's well you're not the first
• 1:15:04
  you won't be the last so all right and also most people react
• 1:15:08
  that way as well go. Why do I begin exactly what I
• 1:15:14
  would do as well as exist? I would be life lesson.
• 1:15:23
  Maybe something that you live by specific is unique to your life.
• 1:15:29
  I'm thinking I'm thinking I wasn't prepared.
• 1:15:32
  I thought we were just having fun.
• 1:15:35
  No. The last lesson that I've
• 1:15:40
  learned is just be honest, right?
• 1:15:45
  If you don't like something, you can you should say is if I don't
• 1:15:51
  know, there's just so many situations in my life where I've
• 1:15:56
  talked, like just a simple white lie, you know, we're looking
• 1:16:00
  back. I think like, should've just
• 1:16:02
  been honest, we've been much easier.
• 1:16:06
  I think that goes for a lot of people because sometimes it's
• 1:16:09
  easier, not to say something or not to say what's on your mind,
• 1:16:12
  but it never works out in the long term.
• 1:16:14
  Yeah. And so, if you want to find
• 1:16:17
  long-term solutions to problems or you have issues with someone
• 1:16:21
  else, just communicate and be honest with each other.
• 1:16:26
  Yeah, couldn't agree more moment.
• 1:16:28
  Yeah, a lot of the time, I think it comes down to these simple
• 1:16:30
  things as well, you know, just you know in my life.
• 1:16:34
  It's It's always been that case I've got since I decided to just
• 1:16:38
  be 100% true for in my own life, it's it has been a lot easier.
• 1:16:43
  Like sometimes you will have people who can't face the truth
• 1:16:47
  or who were like, you know, they don't like hearing it but it's
• 1:16:52
  like that's their problem at the end of the day like yeah, truth
• 1:16:56
  and honesty in my opinion is a sign of respect.
• 1:16:59
  It's a sign of like you know you're you're trying to say to
• 1:17:02
  that person. Like, you know, I will tell you
• 1:17:05
  The truth regardless of whether it's bad or not, you know.
• 1:17:08
  And that's the problem that people don't want to.
• 1:17:11
  People worry. I think it's to comes down to
• 1:17:13
  judgment people. Worried what other people will
• 1:17:15
  think of them if they tell the truth and it's like that is very
• 1:17:18
  accurate. Yeah, you know, no one's
• 1:17:20
  perfect. It's I don't know where this
• 1:17:22
  this idea of perfection came from but you know, I mean we've
• 1:17:28
  all messed up like best thing you can do is just be honest
• 1:17:32
  about it owner. Absolutely.
• 1:17:33
  Yeah. And then for me, I would rather
• 1:17:36
  be upset by the truth and comforted by a lie and that's
• 1:17:40
  kind of a cliché A expression. But it's so true.
• 1:17:44
  This is true. I mean because and especially if
• 1:17:46
  you know that it's a liar as well.
• 1:17:48
  You just try to live by Ally it's like it's not gonna happen
• 1:17:52
  man. Like you got to face reality
• 1:17:53
  sooner or later. Yeah.
• 1:17:57
  Okay. As we draw things for it to a
• 1:17:59
  close for today. I just want to ask you one final
• 1:18:01
  question. All right.
• 1:18:03
  Do you have any upcoming projects or maybe some final
• 1:18:05
  thoughts that you'd like to share with us?
• 1:18:12
  You know, I don't have any any new project that I'm working on
• 1:18:16
  but I'm planning on just keep growing the podcast and keep
• 1:18:21
  working on that and then my business that's mostly it's so I
• 1:18:27
  if I if I can make it appeal to your listeners, I just asked
• 1:18:31
  them to go check out my podcast, it's some iqi podcast.com or in
• 1:18:36
  every, on, every podcast platform.
• 1:18:39
  It's cause I know you. And I'm calling I feel so yeah,
• 1:18:44
  that's all that I'm working on for now, but I'll let you know
• 1:18:47
  if something new comes up, excellent.
• 1:18:51
  Yeah. Want to say a massive.
• 1:18:53
  Thank you for appearing on the show.
• 1:18:55
  It's been an absolute pleasure. Having you and yeah, to all my
• 1:18:59
  listeners of the Christian Reef podcast.
• 1:19:02
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• 1:19:03
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• 1:19:32
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• 1:19:37
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• 1:19:40
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• 1:19:42
  One love. I'll see you in the next one.