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Never Had a Friend That's Green · Large Nerdron Collider

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Speaker 1: The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of My
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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hi everybody, Welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider
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Speaker 1: podcast podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel casting and with me, as always,
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Speaker 1: is the ever animated Jonathan Strickland. Thank you. I'm glad
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Speaker 1: I haven't been a race yet. Hey, Ariel, I got
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Speaker 1: a question for you now, Ariel. Later in this episode,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking a lot about the color spectrum.
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Speaker 1: It plays a part in one of the things we're
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Speaker 1: going to talk about a couple of times. So here's
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Speaker 1: your scenario, or as the Quister would say, So Ario,
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Speaker 1: you're a wizard, Ariel, but like a Tolkien wizard. So
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Speaker 1: what color do we associate with you? You are Ariel?
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Speaker 1: The green green? Yeah's my favorite color. I had a
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Speaker 1: feeling that was gonna be it because I've known you
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Speaker 1: for like twenty years and I knew that green was
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Speaker 1: your favorite color. So don't kill me. I do love Tolkien.
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a green. I don't think so.
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Speaker 1: I think there were two blue ones. There was you know, Gandalf,
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Speaker 1: the Gray sorrom On, the white Radigas the brown brown,
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Speaker 1: and then and then there were a couple of blue
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Speaker 1: ones who went off to the east and you never
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Speaker 1: heard from you never heard from them at all. But
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Speaker 1: even even in like the notes, you never hear back
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Speaker 1: from those. You don't know whatever happened to those. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I do not believe there was ever a So and
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Speaker 1: So the Green in Tolkien. Yes, so I would be
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Speaker 1: Ariel the Green, the Bright and cherry. But what about you? So,
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Speaker 1: I think I think Ariel the Green, you would have
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Speaker 1: to be like related to things like like like woodlands
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Speaker 1: and meadows and like very nature kind of oriented. Maybe
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Speaker 1: not as much an animal focus as Radagast was, but
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Speaker 1: more like, yeah, yeah, I would go with Jonathan the turquoise,
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Speaker 1: kind of seaside. That's what I'm thinking I want to be.
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Speaker 1: I want to be a beach wizard like like think
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Speaker 1: think like think like Gandalf, but he's moved to key
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Speaker 1: West and really let himself go. That's what I'm aiming for.
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I've seen pictures of Gandolf with Oh no,
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the wizard from Sorting the Stone from
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Speaker 1: Disney start in the stone with like the sunglass like
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Speaker 1: vacation and the big straw hat and yeah, yeah, that's
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Speaker 1: what I imagine that you'd look like if you were
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Speaker 1: Jonathan the Turquoise, but younger because you're younger. I got goals,
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Speaker 1: Like that's that's kind of like my retirement goal right there. Well,
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Speaker 1: there we go, another question answered, and now we get
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Speaker 1: to trek into the dark mysterious dangers of this week's
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Speaker 1: geek news. Yes, and our first news story is about
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Speaker 1: The African Queen. I mean the Juncle Cruise movie. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about the Mummy, which is
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Speaker 1: what this trailer made me think of over and over
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Speaker 1: and over again. As I was watching, I went, this
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Speaker 1: is the Mummy, but on a boat you see it?
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Speaker 1: To me, it reminded the first trailers is the second
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Speaker 1: trailer I believe that they've released, and the first trailer
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Speaker 1: made me feel this way too, Like the front end
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Speaker 1: of the trailer feels very much like the old classic
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Speaker 1: movie The African Queen with Katherine Hepburn, and then the
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Speaker 1: back half felt very like Pirates of the Caribbean. I agree.
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Speaker 1: Parts of the Caribbean is the perfect one to kind
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Speaker 1: of compare this to as well, because there is is
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of action in this trailer that is
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Speaker 1: incredibly similar to the stuff you saw in the Pirates movie,
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Speaker 1: So definitely a Pirates of the Caribbean kind of flavor.
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Speaker 1: The reason why I say the Mummy, I'm thinking about
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Speaker 1: the Brendan Fraser Mummy movie, right because you've got the Skipper,
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Speaker 1: who's essentially the same role as what Brendan Frasier was
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Speaker 1: playing in the Mummy, Emily Blunt's character, who's essentially Rachel
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Speaker 1: Wise's character from the Mummy, and you've got a so
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Speaker 1: far nameless third male character, third character who happens to
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Speaker 1: be male, who might as well be the brother character
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Speaker 1: from the Mummy, right, Like, like they don't there's there's
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Speaker 1: like zero time spent on explaining who that person is.
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Speaker 1: There's no indication that. I mean, I don't know if
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Speaker 1: he came along with Emma Stone's character or if he
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Speaker 1: came along with Dwayne the Rock Johnson's character. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: but he's there probably for comedy relief, Yeah yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I like Dwayne Johnson and I like
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Speaker 1: him in funny action Boobies, So I kind of want
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Speaker 1: to see it, but I don't. Now I'm going to
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Speaker 1: be thinking Mummy all the time. Darney and Jonathan, Well,
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Speaker 1: you know you need to watch it again. Watch it
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Speaker 1: again and watch some of those special effects, because I
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Speaker 1: swear when you watch it, you're gonna think, yeah, this
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Speaker 1: is parts of the Caribbean meets the Mummy set aboard
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Speaker 1: a boat. I mean, that's what this is. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I guess parts of the Caribbeans technically said aboard boats
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Speaker 1: all the time, but you get what I mean. And
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Speaker 1: I think you're really going to get that. And also
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Speaker 1: to me came across as more intense and creepy than
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Speaker 1: I anticipated. Like as I was watching the little action
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Speaker 1: sequences play out, and obviously we don't know how much
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Speaker 1: of the film those take up or whether that's you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe that's almost all of the action sequences. We don't know,
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Speaker 1: but some of them look pretty intense and scary, like
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Speaker 1: to the point where I was like, when I think
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Speaker 1: of the Jungle Cruise, I think of something that is
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Speaker 1: like really appealing to little kids. I loved it as
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Speaker 1: a little kid. I don't I'm putting myself back in
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Speaker 1: that mindset. I don't know if a little as a
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Speaker 1: little kid, I would be able to watch this movie
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Speaker 1: and not be just totally freaked out. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: definitely think this is geared towards older children or you know,
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Speaker 1: adults are age where it's something we grew up with,
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Speaker 1: because we talked about in an earlier episode how they're
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Speaker 1: making the entire like Adventure Extended Universe, Disney Adventure Extended Universe,
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Speaker 1: which would have Hired to Caribbean, Hotted Mansion. All of
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Speaker 1: those things innately are a little bit scary for young children.
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Speaker 1: That's fair, yeah, I mean, like even Jungle Cruise has
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Speaker 1: moments in it that if you're very little, you might
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Speaker 1: not understand. For example, my parents still love to tell
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Speaker 1: the story about how when I was I don't know,
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Speaker 1: three years old, and that Disney World that we rode
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Speaker 1: the Jungle Cruise ride, and and back then, you know,
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Speaker 1: there's a hippopotamus that that rises up out of the
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Speaker 1: water and a bins his mouth, and in the old days,
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Speaker 1: it was framed as an attack on the boat, and
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Speaker 1: the skipper would pick up a little air rifle that
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Speaker 1: would just shoot little puffs of air, but it sounded
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Speaker 1: like a gun fire. A couple of times in the
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Speaker 1: hippo would go under, and um, and my parents love
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Speaker 1: to tell the story that when that happened when I
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Speaker 1: was a little kid, I got very sad and said,
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Speaker 1: they shot the happy pot us. That's adorable. Apparently I
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Speaker 1: made the skipper apologize. So and now they don't shoot
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Speaker 1: the hippopot happy potus is anymore. The happy pot uses
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Speaker 1: don't get get filled with lead every on every ride.
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Speaker 1: Well recently did he announce that, like a lot of
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Speaker 1: its other rides, they're retrofitting it to fit a more
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Speaker 1: modern age. Takes out some of the references that are
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Speaker 1: very outdated and problematic. Now, Um, and I did notice
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Speaker 1: that in the second trailer. The first trailer had reference
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Speaker 1: to some of those items in the ride, like shrunken
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Speaker 1: heads and stuff like shrunken heads, and the indigenous people
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Speaker 1: that whose territory they were going through that ended up
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Speaker 1: being the first trailer ended up being actors. They don't
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Speaker 1: show any of that in this second trailer. A friend
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Speaker 1: of ours has a friend who is one of those people.
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Speaker 1: So I wonder if they're going to leave that in
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Speaker 1: or if they're going to take it out to match
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Speaker 1: the changes they're making to the ride. Mm, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: it is interesting. I mean, I'm honestly in favor of
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Speaker 1: Disney updating their rides to be less like like xenophobic
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Speaker 1: and less you know, ethnocentric on on the white experience,
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Speaker 1: because if you if you went to Disney back in
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Speaker 1: the day, pretty much every experience was kind of framed
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Speaker 1: through the eyes of the you know, of of white people,
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Speaker 1: which clearly, whether intentionally or not, left a lot of
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Speaker 1: people out. And I'm very glad to see Disney actually
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Speaker 1: taking steps to address that and to make it a
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Speaker 1: more inclusive place. I mean, that's the spirit of the park, right,
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Speaker 1: is that everyone belongs and everything, So it's good to
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Speaker 1: see them actually making moves to do that. I know
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Speaker 1: some purists get antsy when the park makes changes, and
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Speaker 1: sometimes the changes don't always make sense on the surface,
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Speaker 1: but these kind of things I totally get behind, and
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Speaker 1: I mean I kind of do understand because you've got
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Speaker 1: all of these great memories for you built up, right,
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Speaker 1: So like when they replace the Mailstrom with Frozen, which
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Speaker 1: I understand why, you know, they've got to keep it
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Speaker 1: current to the kids who are going now, like, but
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Speaker 1: I was sad because I have all of these fond
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Speaker 1: memories of the Mailstrom. So I get it on an
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Speaker 1: emotional level, you get that that disnified version of the
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Speaker 1: fairy Tale, which also I mean, like, I know you
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Speaker 1: have issues with the Hans Christian Andersen Little Mermaid one,
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Speaker 1: which happens to be my favorite of the Disney movies.
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Speaker 1: But I totally get great music. I get where you're
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Speaker 1: coming from, though, So I'm like, yeah, there's some valid
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Speaker 1: there's some valid points of view. We don't mean to
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Speaker 1: dismiss anyone, but um, yeah, I'm very curious to see
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Speaker 1: how this movie shakes out. I don't I don't know
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Speaker 1: that I'm hooked. I like Emily Blunt, I like Dwayne
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Speaker 1: the Rock Johnson. I don't know if I like the
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Speaker 1: third guy because we never learned his name or what
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Speaker 1: he does. But I don't know, Like, maybe this movie
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Speaker 1: will grab me the kind of the way the Pirates
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Speaker 1: of the Caribbean, the first one grabbed me. But but
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Speaker 1: I'm not quite feeling it yet. Yeah, me neither. It's
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Speaker 1: not like Marvel where I'm like, well, I have to
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Speaker 1: watch that. It's It's okay, it's a Disney movie. It's
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Speaker 1: an action it might be fun. So Uh, speaking of
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Speaker 1: things that might be or not kid friendly. Uh. I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure how to segue into this, but there's a
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Speaker 1: movie coming out called The Lost City of d starring
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Speaker 1: Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum, which I didn't hear about
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Speaker 1: until this week. Honestly. Yeah, and this one made me
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Speaker 1: immediately think in the article points this out too, But
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Speaker 1: this one made me immediately think of a classic romantic
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Speaker 1: adventure film from the nineteen eighties called Romancing the Stone.
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Speaker 1: Like as I was looking at the still the still
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Speaker 1: image of on the article, I was like, oh, is
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Speaker 1: this like a modern version of Romancing the Stone, which
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Speaker 1: has a romance author get pulled into this wild, crazy
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Speaker 1: adventure that could have been ripped straight from the pages
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Speaker 1: of her own book, and she ends up having all
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Speaker 1: these experiences with this this rapscallion character, and of course
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Speaker 1: the two ultimately fall for each other. Spoiler alert for
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Speaker 1: a movie that's been out for forty years. But um,
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Speaker 1: this one looks like again Neil Sandra bull explaining a
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Speaker 1: romance author and and and Tatum Tanning Chatum as I
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Speaker 1: like to call him. That's fair, Like I I'm I'm
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Speaker 1: guaranteed to get names wrong every single time, but he's
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Speaker 1: playing He's playing the model who serves as the cover
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Speaker 1: model for her books, and the two of them are
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Speaker 1: on a book tour together and then they get pulled
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Speaker 1: into some wild, wacky shenanigans. So I will say Channing
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Speaker 1: Tatum has grown in my heart outside of the Magic
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Speaker 1: Mike movies, no offense anybody who likes them. I just
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Speaker 1: did not. But I think he's a really funny guy
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Speaker 1: and I think he will do great in a rom com.
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Speaker 1: And Sandra Bullock, I mean, if you look at Miss
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Speaker 1: Congeniality or The Proposal or anything like that, are they
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Speaker 1: great cinema? No, But they're perfectly enjoyable potato chip rom coms.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a fun plays for an afternoon, totally
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Speaker 1: plays to her strengths. Yeah, and I think I think
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Speaker 1: if it, if it kind of pulls up the spirit
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Speaker 1: of Romancing the Stone, that could be a really fun movie.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Sandra Bullock also obviously has a lot of
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Speaker 1: comedy action in her in her Wheelhouse too, so uh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think it could be a lot of fun. Like
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Speaker 1: but the first thing I thought was, wow, they've they've
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Speaker 1: sort of rebooted Romancing the Stone and I'm here for
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Speaker 1: it because that was a fun movie. I enjoyed it
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Speaker 1: as well. Now I will say it looks like it
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Speaker 1: might be pretty steamy according to some posts that Channing
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Speaker 1: Tatum made on Instagram, so where he was wearing nothing
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Speaker 1: but a towel in the makeup room. Yes, uh, And
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Speaker 1: he's like, I'm going to have to warn my parents
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Speaker 1: before they watch this movie. So I guess you've been warned.
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Speaker 1: Are you gonna warn us about Cobra Kai season four?
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for saving me throwing me a lifel. Yes,
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Speaker 1: Cobra Kai season four. I think he's finished rap filming wrapped,
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Speaker 1: but we just got the first trailer for it. It's
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Speaker 1: like a nothing trailer, and anybody who's watched the series
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Speaker 1: knows what's going to happen. But if you're like me
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Speaker 1: and you have never seen an episode of Cobra Kai,
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Speaker 1: despite the fact that we did a mesh up about
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Speaker 1: it once upon a time, I was able to watch
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Speaker 1: this trailer and figure out what it had up. And
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Speaker 1: in season three, Yeah, so Terry Silver is coming back.
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Speaker 1: We knew that. We knew Crease called him. We know
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Speaker 1: Creases the Big Bat and Johnny and Daniel have kind
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Speaker 1: of teamed up. Sorry for anybody who hasn't watched it yet,
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Speaker 1: but it's very obvious. Um yeah, so for those who
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Speaker 1: for those who may not be up on their Karate
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Speaker 1: Kid lore, Crease is the guy who ran the Cobra
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Speaker 1: Kai do jo back in the original Karate Kid film
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Speaker 1: and was Johnny's sense and then Terry Silver was a
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Speaker 1: Vietnam war vet buddy of Creases, who in Karate Kid
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Speaker 1: three comes in too secretly act as kind of like
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Speaker 1: almost like a double agent type. He brings he's training
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Speaker 1: Daniel to fight in a different style that Miyagi won't
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Speaker 1: teach him, but it's secretly to undermine Daniel and to
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Speaker 1: cause him to uh suffer and feel payne. And now
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Speaker 1: this bad guy who was like a scenery chewing bad
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Speaker 1: guy in Grannie Get three is u is back for
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Speaker 1: the Cobra Kai series in some form. It's really interesting
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Speaker 1: to me because when I was watching through season three,
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Speaker 1: one of the fan theories was that Tory Nichols, who
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Speaker 1: is kind of like the main female antagonist, Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: she's the bad girl. She's one of the love interests,
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Speaker 1: and Chris kind of takes her under his wing a
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Speaker 1: lot of people were theorizing that she might be the
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Speaker 1: daughter of Terry Silver. Um. I don't think that's been confirmed,
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Speaker 1: you know, because Season four hasn't come out yet, but
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Speaker 1: it would be interesting. I also think it's funny because
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Speaker 1: her last name is Nichols and Nichols to Silver. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that would be funny. Well, we're going to talk now
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Speaker 1: about the most recent trailer for m Night Shyamlon's Old
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Speaker 1: a film that has a very small cast, takes place
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Speaker 1: largely as far as we can tell, at a single location,
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Speaker 1: that being a beach, and the the premise appears to
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Speaker 1: be that when people go to this beach, they begin
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Speaker 1: to age rapidly, and thus they have a very limited
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Speaker 1: amount of time to figure out what's happening and how
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Speaker 1: they can escape before they die of old age. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's I don't know. So I am very hit or
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Speaker 1: miss on M Night Shyamlon's movies. Yeah, we know there's
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Speaker 1: going to be a twist. I don't know what it is.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's pretty obvious, sometimes it's not at all. Um,
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Speaker 1: but this one's it's interesting to me because I was like,
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Speaker 1: okay at the beginning of this movie, looks okay, it's intriguing,
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Speaker 1: and then the end of the trailer looked super super
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Speaker 1: scary to me, so I don't know if I'll be
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Speaker 1: able to sit through it. But one of the little girls,
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Speaker 1: who looks like is maybe six or seven at the
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Speaker 1: beginning of the trailer gets pregnant, So I can only
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Speaker 1: imagine that the island does more to propagate people, to
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Speaker 1: turn them old than just simply age people. I sure
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Speaker 1: hope so, because the other the other implication is absolutely
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Speaker 1: horrifying and not in a way that I would ever
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Speaker 1: want to be depicted in a movie. So yeah, I
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Speaker 1: don't know. Like I'm not, I'm not the hugest fan
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Speaker 1: of his work. Like there's certain movies that I do
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Speaker 1: find entertaining. I mean, obviously The Sixth Sense is still
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Speaker 1: one of those movies that I think was exactly the
17:37
Speaker 1: right movie at the right time to become a spectacular hit.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, like like You, a lot of his other
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Speaker 1: later films are real hit or miss with me. Some
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Speaker 1: of them are more interesting to me on an intellectual level,
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Speaker 1: but I don't find particularly entertaining to watch. Like Unbreakable,
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Speaker 1: I think is a really interesting movie, but I don't
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Speaker 1: I don't actually want like watching it, like I can't.
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Speaker 1: It's a long movie and not a lot happens in it. Um.
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Speaker 1: I guess I don't like watching it either, because I've
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Speaker 1: only watched it once. But it was interesting when I did. Yeah, no,
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Speaker 1: it was a neat It was a neat take on
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Speaker 1: the superhero genre. But like a lot of his movies also,
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Speaker 1: they tend to have very low replay value because they
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Speaker 1: are so reliant upon twists that once you know the twist,
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Speaker 1: there's there's less reason for you to watch it again
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Speaker 1: unless you're just watching to see. Okay, well, let's see
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Speaker 1: where all the indicators are as to what the twist is,
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Speaker 1: like the stuff that I didn't notice the first time
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Speaker 1: around because I wasn't aware that there was a twist.
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Speaker 1: He also has a habit of either writing himself or
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Speaker 1: some version of himself into the narrative, or using the
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Speaker 1: narrative as a way of addressing something specific about himself,
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Speaker 1: like not not a universal sperience, but something very specific
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Speaker 1: to him that rubs me the wrong way as well. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's interesting. I hadn't, I guess noticed that you gotta
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Speaker 1: watch Lady in the Water, So I have not watched
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Speaker 1: that one, now, yeah, that one. That one is the
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Speaker 1: one I'm specifically talking about. But yeah, I got you. Well,
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Speaker 1: I might wait to see what the reviews say before
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Speaker 1: I watch it, kind of spoiler it for myself because,
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Speaker 1: like I said, it's it looks very scary. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if I could sit through it. I stood up
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Speaker 1: in the front row. Sorry if I've told you all
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Speaker 1: listeners this many times. When I watched Signs in the
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Speaker 1: movie theater back when it first came out, I stood up.
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Speaker 1: I was in the front row of the theater because
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Speaker 1: that's all that was left. And I stood up and
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Speaker 1: screamed when the alien ran across the TV screen of
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Speaker 1: the kid's birthday party, Um, and everybody laughed at me.
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Speaker 1: So that's my threshold for h I am one movies. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you had your own little carry white moment there in
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Speaker 1: the theater. They're all going to laugh at you. Well,
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Speaker 1: we're going to take a break, and when we come back,
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Speaker 1: we will have that animated discussion that Ariel was kind
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Speaker 1: of alluding to at the opening of our show. All right,
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Speaker 1: as Jonathan and I flail wildly at each other to say,
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Speaker 1: who's going to come back in from that break? Uh,
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Speaker 1: we are. We are rusty. You throw one holiday in
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Speaker 1: there and suddenly we're like, no one knows how to
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Speaker 1: come back from a from a break one holiday that
20:38
Speaker 1: didn't even really affect our taping schedule regardless. Okay, So,
20:43
Speaker 1: as Jonathan said, I alluded to this in the intro,
20:47
Speaker 1: but we're talking about animation styles, and this was kind
20:51
Speaker 1: of inspired by the fact that um I finished Modoc
20:55
Speaker 1: on Hulu recently and it was very robot Chicken and
20:59
Speaker 1: the humor was for me, like, some of it was funny,
21:03
Speaker 1: some of it was kind of boy humor that didn't land.
21:05
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's because it's me or
21:07
Speaker 1: if it's because of the media that it was being
21:09
Speaker 1: presented in. I love stop motion animation, which is what
21:11
Speaker 1: modoc is, but I wasn't sure if that was affecting
21:14
Speaker 1: the humor level. So I was like, we should have
21:16
Speaker 1: a conversation about animation in general. So that's what we're
21:21
Speaker 1: gonna do. Yeah. So my general perspective on animation is
21:26
Speaker 1: that to me, the story is the most important thing,
21:30
Speaker 1: Like the story needs to be good and then the
21:33
Speaker 1: animation just needs to support the story. And that animation
21:36
Speaker 1: could be in any format. So I enjoy pretty much
21:40
Speaker 1: all types of animation, right Like I like stop motion animation,
21:44
Speaker 1: I like hand drawn animation, I like computer animation. And
21:49
Speaker 1: the thing I don't like is when people um equate
21:55
Speaker 1: a style of animation with quality of animation, not not
21:59
Speaker 1: just the quality of the art, but the quality of
22:02
Speaker 1: the experience of seeing it, because it makes me think
22:05
Speaker 1: of like when Pisar was first doing movies for Disney,
22:09
Speaker 1: before Pixar became part of Disney, there was this general
22:14
Speaker 1: feeling that because Toy Story was such a huge hit,
22:19
Speaker 1: that the era of hand drawn animation should be over
22:23
Speaker 1: like computer animations. Where it's at and and John Lester
22:27
Speaker 1: is a man of many, many faults, but one of
22:30
Speaker 1: the things he said that I agree with is that
22:34
Speaker 1: it wasn't so much like to him, it was never
22:36
Speaker 1: the thing about it being computer animation, about that being
22:39
Speaker 1: the distinct thing that set apart Toy Story. It was
22:43
Speaker 1: that the story had a lot of heart and that
22:46
Speaker 1: the animation was just their way of telling the story.
22:48
Speaker 1: But that if the story was bad, it wouldn't matter
22:51
Speaker 1: how good the computer animation was, because he would just
22:53
Speaker 1: look at and go, well, it looks neat, but I mean,
22:55
Speaker 1: what else is there? I agree, I honestly was kind
22:57
Speaker 1: of sad when Disney moved to a lot more computer
23:00
Speaker 1: animation and Pixar style animation. I really like the two
23:03
Speaker 1: D stuff. And even though as as Disney so a
23:09
Speaker 1: lot of like Disney's earlier stuff all looks the same.
23:11
Speaker 1: If you look at like snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella,
23:15
Speaker 1: they all have a similar style. Even when you get
23:17
Speaker 1: into like Lion King and Aladdin and later stuff, well,
23:20
Speaker 1: yeah you have yeah, you have certain artists whose whose
23:24
Speaker 1: technique carries through from one movie to the next. So
23:27
Speaker 1: you look at those early ones and you're seeing a
23:30
Speaker 1: lot of animation that was rhodoscoped on top of actual film,
23:34
Speaker 1: which is also why if you're ever really bored, you
23:37
Speaker 1: can go down the YouTube rabbit hole and look at
23:40
Speaker 1: the various clips of different Disney animation that's all the
23:44
Speaker 1: exact same sequence. Like there's this one dancing sequence of
23:48
Speaker 1: you know, a young woman holding her skirt up that's
23:50
Speaker 1: been used multiple times as used in Snow White, and
23:54
Speaker 1: it was used in Robin Hood, and it was all
23:56
Speaker 1: because they were all using the same reference film and
24:00
Speaker 1: rotoscoping the animation on top of it, so it's literally
24:04
Speaker 1: the same animated sequence, just with different characters. But yeah,
24:08
Speaker 1: there was a lot of There are a lot of
24:10
Speaker 1: eras where like there was also the Dawn Bluth era,
24:13
Speaker 1: right like A Fox and the Hound and uh, Oliver
24:17
Speaker 1: and Company. There was that era as well, where it
24:19
Speaker 1: was very distinctive. That also was an era that I
24:21
Speaker 1: don't actually don't like the movies from that era. Yeah, well,
24:25
Speaker 1: in same with like if you get to I guess
24:29
Speaker 1: Home on the Range, this one where they really played
24:32
Speaker 1: with their their animation style and it's just I don't
24:35
Speaker 1: particularly enjoy it, or I guess even kind of Treasure
24:39
Speaker 1: Planet they go a little more stylistic or or Hercules.
24:42
Speaker 1: Hercules is a great example, didn't Didn't Treasure Planet and
24:46
Speaker 1: Atlantis both come out around the same time too, like
24:49
Speaker 1: those I think so, yeah, I think I've ever even
24:52
Speaker 1: seen Atlantis. I would say, I think you're either in
24:55
Speaker 1: the Treasure Planet or the Atlantis camp. And I'm totally
24:57
Speaker 1: making this up, but based on my friends, they've either
24:59
Speaker 1: watched one or the other. In the Treasure Planets, yeah
25:02
Speaker 1: that's the one I saw. Yeah, No, I actually really
25:05
Speaker 1: liked the Hercules design, but that's because I felt like
25:08
Speaker 1: they were taking some inspiration from uh Greek art, like
25:14
Speaker 1: only a little bit only in the it was very
25:17
Speaker 1: disgnified version of that. So don't like it wasn't like
25:21
Speaker 1: drawn straight from the urns or whatever. But I didn't
25:24
Speaker 1: like that they were doing that. Yeah, me too, But
25:27
Speaker 1: I feel like there's less of that now that so
25:30
Speaker 1: much of Disney animation and Pixar movies are I guess
25:33
Speaker 1: luca Is is a good example of not that, but
25:35
Speaker 1: a lot of them feel very similar in the animation
25:38
Speaker 1: style again, so yeah, yeah, I would say that, like
25:40
Speaker 1: Tangled and Frozen look pretty similar to each other. Yeah
25:47
Speaker 1: that was a Pixar one though, So yeah, Brave was Pixar.
25:51
Speaker 1: It was one of the Pixar movie les. So like
25:53
Speaker 1: when people rank the Pixar movies, that one gets a
25:56
Speaker 1: pretty that one usually ends up in the lower half
25:59
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. Well, which is unfortunate because
26:01
Speaker 1: I thought the Brave was a really interesting take on
26:05
Speaker 1: a story. But at the same time, I was like, yeah,
26:07
Speaker 1: it's hard for it to match up against things that
26:09
Speaker 1: are just so joyful like Toy Story or um uh
26:14
Speaker 1: you know, so so emotionally uh involved, like finding Nemo
26:20
Speaker 1: but um, yeah, for me, all the Disney stuff like
26:24
Speaker 1: like that falls into different categories, but again mostly based
26:28
Speaker 1: on the quality of the storytelling, not necessarily the art.
26:32
Speaker 1: So I can still watch like classic, the Classic Sleeping
26:36
Speaker 1: Beauty cartoon and still enjoy that just as much as
26:39
Speaker 1: if I were to watch Little Mermaid, which of course
26:42
Speaker 1: has a place in my heart because I was growing
26:44
Speaker 1: up and that was my favorite Disney film, or Tangled,
26:47
Speaker 1: which is probably my favorite of the more recent Disney films.
26:52
Speaker 1: Um but outside of Disney animation, there's tons of animation
26:55
Speaker 1: that I absolutely love, including stuff like stop motion and beyond.
27:02
Speaker 1: So same now, except for for me, the animation is
27:07
Speaker 1: since it is a part of the storytelling. You can
27:09
Speaker 1: have an amazing story and it can be such I
27:12
Speaker 1: don't want to say ugly animation, but it's what my
27:15
Speaker 1: brain construses ugly animation, like very gross humor animation. So
27:20
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like Ren and Stimpy or some SpongeBob or
27:26
Speaker 1: even Invader Zim. I think Invader Zim was the first
27:28
Speaker 1: cartoon that kind of broached that ugly, more grotesque style
27:34
Speaker 1: for me that I enjoyed. But like, you can take
27:40
Speaker 1: a good story or good storytelling or good humor and
27:42
Speaker 1: ruin it for me by making the characters so unpleasant
27:46
Speaker 1: to look at that I don't appreciate it. I can
27:50
Speaker 1: get that. I also think that you can use quote
27:54
Speaker 1: unquote bad animation as a part of your storytelling to
28:00
Speaker 1: make jokes, right, So like Robot Chicken does that a
28:03
Speaker 1: little bit because a lot of the times they're using
28:05
Speaker 1: figures that don't have full uh pose ability, but that's
28:10
Speaker 1: part of the joke, right, although most of the time
28:12
Speaker 1: they end up making their own puppets that are similar
28:15
Speaker 1: to but not actually the toy figures. Uh the same
28:19
Speaker 1: sort of thing with Like I think of shows like
28:22
Speaker 1: Archer where that animation style is pretty limited. It's not
28:26
Speaker 1: like it's not as fully animated as some other series
28:30
Speaker 1: are umoetically pleasing to me, it is, yeah, but there
28:35
Speaker 1: are some where it's like the limited you know, they'll
28:38
Speaker 1: do limited animation and that's part of the gimmick, right,
28:40
Speaker 1: Like that's I think of Space Ghost, like they were
28:44
Speaker 1: reusing animation with Space Ghost Coast to Coast. They were
28:47
Speaker 1: using a ton of animation from old Hanna Barbara cartoons,
28:50
Speaker 1: and that to me worked really well because it it
28:54
Speaker 1: was feeding back into the loop of this is a
28:59
Speaker 1: a uh, let's put on a show kind of approach,
29:04
Speaker 1: and so it and that the tone well right, it
29:09
Speaker 1: supported the tone. So I think, I think, really like
29:14
Speaker 1: it comes down to having that right mix of animation
29:18
Speaker 1: style and the storytelling where they complement each other and
29:21
Speaker 1: support each other. That's what makes good animation. Not necessarily
29:26
Speaker 1: that you're looking at something that required, you know, more
29:30
Speaker 1: hours of work or more experts to put it together.
29:34
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you can get really beautiful animation that way,
29:37
Speaker 1: but it doesn't necessarily translate into a truly enjoyable experience.
29:43
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean, I will say like I
29:45
Speaker 1: watched the New Animaniacs and the it felt kind of
29:50
Speaker 1: rent and stimpy to me, so I didn't enjoy it
29:51
Speaker 1: as much. I still enjoyed it, not quite as much.
29:54
Speaker 1: I still haven't seen them. I actually did like the
29:59
Speaker 1: the retro Rows style Disney cartoons that also had a
30:02
Speaker 1: bit of a grotesque in them, especially if Goofy's in
30:04
Speaker 1: the cartoon. Goofy is pretty grotesque in those cartoons. I
30:08
Speaker 1: like them all, but Goofy I don't. But also I
30:10
Speaker 1: don't like them making Goofy so gross to me. He's
30:12
Speaker 1: so heartfelt. Yeah, I really enjoyed those cartoons. I don't
30:17
Speaker 1: understand that particular decision to change Goofy that way, but man,
30:21
Speaker 1: once they did it, they they really went all in.
30:24
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is interesting. You know, I know we
30:31
Speaker 1: have a lot of artsy friends and I'm hoping probably
30:33
Speaker 1: also artsy listeners, So I'd really love to hear what
30:35
Speaker 1: you all think. What kind of animations do you like
30:37
Speaker 1: or not? Like, I know, like a lot of comic
30:39
Speaker 1: book animated movies also use very limited, uh animation in
30:46
Speaker 1: their storytelling to feel more like a comic book, and
30:49
Speaker 1: like I like that. Yeah, Invincible kind of feels that
30:52
Speaker 1: way at times. Yeah, definitely, definitely, but also very very
30:57
Speaker 1: gross at moments. No, Invincible Invincible. If you want to
31:01
Speaker 1: talk about graphic violence, Invincible is got. It's got that
31:04
Speaker 1: going on, like that, you don't have any idea of
31:09
Speaker 1: how graphic it's going to be until you get to
31:11
Speaker 1: the the end of the first episode and then you're
31:14
Speaker 1: just like, WHOA, this is different from what I thought
31:17
Speaker 1: it was gonna be. The first episode is so endearing. Well,
31:22
Speaker 1: and that's the thing, right, That's that's what makes that
31:25
Speaker 1: last moment really have an enormous impact. It's not just
31:29
Speaker 1: because it's over the top graphic violence. It's that it's
31:32
Speaker 1: following this story that up to that point. It's kind
31:36
Speaker 1: of lulled you into this sense of a different kind
31:40
Speaker 1: of story. Um. And obviously I came at it without
31:44
Speaker 1: having read the comics, so I knew like what it
31:47
Speaker 1: was about. I had heard things about it, and I
31:50
Speaker 1: knew that there were elements of violence in it. I
31:52
Speaker 1: just had no idea of the extent of it until
31:55
Speaker 1: I watched it. Yeah. Same, I think this has been
31:59
Speaker 1: really good. Like I said, I'm really interested to see
32:01
Speaker 1: what other people think about animation styles. It's always so
32:03
Speaker 1: interesting to hear other people's opinions on this. It was
32:06
Speaker 1: interesting to hear your opinion on this, Jonathan, uh So,
32:09
Speaker 1: make sure to write us. We'll tell you how to
32:11
Speaker 1: do that at the end of the show, and when
32:13
Speaker 1: we come back from this break, we're going to take
32:16
Speaker 1: a piece of classic animation and mash it up with
32:18
Speaker 1: comic book property that's currently in the news. You know, Ariel,
32:38
Speaker 1: when we had our animation discussion, there was one thing
32:40
Speaker 1: that I should have mentioned that I really really really
32:43
Speaker 1: love that uh is sort of cheesy and you don't
32:49
Speaker 1: really see it anymore. And that's stop motion animation that
32:52
Speaker 1: is integrated into live action movies. So I'm thinking of
32:56
Speaker 1: like the old Harry hells and stuff. Yeah, I will
33:00
Speaker 1: have a deep love for that, like stuff from like
33:02
Speaker 1: Clash of the Titans and that kind of thing, The
33:05
Speaker 1: original Clash of the Titans, not the remake, the original
33:08
Speaker 1: Clash of the Titans, Like I mean, that's the like
33:12
Speaker 1: inception of Origen or drunk Collider. That was the very
33:15
Speaker 1: third first thing we did was take his Clash of
33:17
Speaker 1: the Titans and mash it up with Thor. Yeah, this
33:19
Speaker 1: time we're doing something a little different. We're not doing
33:21
Speaker 1: those no, No, we are taking Aladdin quote unquote classic
33:26
Speaker 1: animation and mixing it up with Green Lantern. Yes, so
33:31
Speaker 1: we're specifically taking Disney's Aladdin. Obviously, the the story of
33:35
Speaker 1: Aladdin predates the Disney film, but we are specifically taking
33:40
Speaker 1: that as our point of inspiration. Now, the reason we
33:43
Speaker 1: picked green Lantern is because, as you alluded to before
33:46
Speaker 1: our break, it's in the news because we have heard
33:51
Speaker 1: about the HBO series that will feature a green lantern
33:56
Speaker 1: and and not not the green lantern I wrote about
34:00
Speaker 1: Momsha yeah, no, me neither. It's featuring Alan Scott, who
34:04
Speaker 1: was kind of like the first, kind of like he
34:07
Speaker 1: was the first screen Lantern as far as I understand,
34:10
Speaker 1: sort of the Golden Age of comics Screen Lantern Um
34:13
Speaker 1: played by Jeremy Irvine, uh, who has been in various
34:20
Speaker 1: things well. And and so for those who don't know
34:24
Speaker 1: Alan Scott, that version of Green Lantern, as as Aeriel said,
34:28
Speaker 1: was from the Golden Age of comics, and uh, the Flash,
34:32
Speaker 1: the original version of the Flash was also from the
34:34
Speaker 1: Golden Age. And what happened was that the comic book creators,
34:38
Speaker 1: they're looking like, comic books had had their heyday, they
34:41
Speaker 1: had sort of died down, and now we were going
34:43
Speaker 1: into a new era of comics, the Silver Age, which
34:47
Speaker 1: is where most of the characters we associate with comic books,
34:50
Speaker 1: like classic DC characters, most of them actually really came
34:54
Speaker 1: out of the Silver Age, not the Golden Age, right,
34:57
Speaker 1: And they had brought back a character called the Flash,
35:01
Speaker 1: it was not the exact same one as from the
35:03
Speaker 1: Golden Age, and that one had started doing really well.
35:06
Speaker 1: So they were looking at other Golden Age properties they
35:09
Speaker 1: had and said, who else can we do? And that's
35:11
Speaker 1: when they brought in the Green Lantern, and this time
35:14
Speaker 1: it was how Jordan's not Alan Scott. Alan Scott's version
35:19
Speaker 1: of Green Lantern is a little different like in the
35:22
Speaker 1: original comics, the Alan Scott Green Lantern his powers didn't
35:26
Speaker 1: work on would just like Dr Who. So maybe we
35:29
Speaker 1: should have done a Green Lantern Doctor Who mash up
35:31
Speaker 1: instead of Green Lantern in Aladdin, but it's too late now. Also,
35:35
Speaker 1: his his motto was different, so it wasn't the in
35:38
Speaker 1: Brightest Day and Blackest Night, no evil shall escape my
35:40
Speaker 1: sight both that everybody knows. Yeah, yeah it was. It
35:45
Speaker 1: didn't even rhyme the original one. Um. But yeah, it's
35:49
Speaker 1: It's funny because Jeremy Irvine in a in a tweet
35:52
Speaker 1: about being cast as Allan Scott, actually quoted that version
35:57
Speaker 1: of the Green Lantern oath. But that was that was
35:59
Speaker 1: a How Jordan's era oath. But yeah, it's interesting that
36:02
Speaker 1: they're going back to the Golden Age one, not the
36:07
Speaker 1: Silver Age, which is again the one I think most
36:09
Speaker 1: people would associate with the character of Green Lantern. I
36:13
Speaker 1: am very curious about that. Me too, me too. Um.
36:18
Speaker 1: I I hope that HBO gives me something that is
36:24
Speaker 1: somewhat uplifting as opposed to a Game of Thrones version
36:26
Speaker 1: of Green Lantern, even though there's certainly a lot of
36:29
Speaker 1: darkness in Green Lantern. Obviously that's what they're fighting. So yeah,
36:33
Speaker 1: so we are now going to mash up Green Lantern
36:39
Speaker 1: with Aladdin, Disney's Aladdin. Hilarity will surely ensue an Ariel.
36:46
Speaker 1: You know what question I'm about to ask you? Who
36:47
Speaker 1: goes first? I guess I can. Okay, all right, so
36:52
Speaker 1: this is you like my surety there? Okay, this is
36:55
Speaker 1: al Laddin in the Cave of Lanterns. And Jonathan said
36:59
Speaker 1: that we are doing a Disney Aladdin. I'm mostly doing
37:01
Speaker 1: the Disney Aladdin, but with a few other surprises. Learning okay.
37:05
Speaker 1: So Senestro had been thrown back in time due to
37:08
Speaker 1: his latest bouts with the Green Lanterns. When he finally
37:11
Speaker 1: landed in a place and time, he found himself in
37:13
Speaker 1: a vast desert without his ring, and without that ring,
37:16
Speaker 1: he could not raise himself up to power in the
37:18
Speaker 1: strange land by force in an effort to return back
37:21
Speaker 1: and defeat hal Jordan's. However, he was not completely lost.
37:24
Speaker 1: You see, he was once an anthropologist, true and his
37:28
Speaker 1: once friend Abin Sure, another green lantern, had studied Earth
37:32
Speaker 1: history as a part of his stint as a green lantern,
37:34
Speaker 1: and had many discussions about it with Sinestro before his death.
37:38
Speaker 1: I guess Aben Sir found it interesting, like dr who
37:40
Speaker 1: did fun Earth interesting? So Sinestro knew all was not lost.
37:45
Speaker 1: He would have to integrate himself into the graces of
37:47
Speaker 1: the local leaders and work his way up the chain
37:50
Speaker 1: until he could gain enough power in the region, Planet, etcetera,
37:53
Speaker 1: to rule, or until he found his ring to do
37:56
Speaker 1: the work for him. He searched for days in the
37:59
Speaker 1: desert before or finding the city of Agriba. Once there,
38:02
Speaker 1: he endeared himself to the local sultan as a trusted advisor,
38:06
Speaker 1: using his knowledge of culture's technology in the future to
38:08
Speaker 1: wow him, all the while searching for his ring. Soon, however,
38:12
Speaker 1: the drudgery of being the Sultan's adviser took so much
38:15
Speaker 1: time that he found himself not being able to sneak
38:17
Speaker 1: away to locate the ring, so he found a youth
38:20
Speaker 1: named al Laddin to help him. The kid was desperate
38:23
Speaker 1: and no one would miss him once the ring was found,
38:25
Speaker 1: so Seinestra sent al Laddin to the next place on
38:28
Speaker 1: his search list a fabled cave known as the Cave
38:31
Speaker 1: of Wonders, with the instructions to find the ring and
38:35
Speaker 1: bring it to him. Also, do not put the ring
38:37
Speaker 1: on or touch anything. Once al Laddin was in the
38:40
Speaker 1: Cave of Wonders, he found the ring, but upon picking
38:42
Speaker 1: it up, the force was too powerful and it threw
38:45
Speaker 1: him back into an old oil lantern. The cave collapsed
38:48
Speaker 1: around al Laddin, leaving Seinstra to think he was dead.
38:51
Speaker 1: Then a magical thing happened. A blue being popped out
38:55
Speaker 1: of the oil lantern that al Laddin had bumped into.
38:57
Speaker 1: He introduced himself as Ganneth, the Blue Lantern, and proposed
39:01
Speaker 1: a deal to al Laddin. He would use his great
39:03
Speaker 1: cosmic powers to give al Laddin the life he desired
39:07
Speaker 1: in a calm heart, if Aladdin would help him defeat Sinestro.
39:10
Speaker 1: Ganneth had been lying in waiting the lamp and thought
39:12
Speaker 1: Senestro would come down into the cave. Get greedy, grabbed
39:15
Speaker 1: the lamp and Powi, but obviously no dice. Aladdin gave
39:18
Speaker 1: the ring Sinestro had wanted to Ganneth for safekeeping, and
39:21
Speaker 1: they escaped the cave. Al Laddin and Ganneth put a
39:25
Speaker 1: planet emotion to stop Sidestro. However, during that time, al
39:28
Speaker 1: Laddin fell in love with the Sultan's daughter, and Ganneth,
39:30
Speaker 1: being tied so closely to emotion as a blue lantern,
39:33
Speaker 1: felt compelled to help him. While Ganneth was helping al
39:37
Speaker 1: Laddin get the girl, he let his guard down and
39:39
Speaker 1: Sinestro got his ring back. Sinestro became all powerful and
39:42
Speaker 1: Ganneth couldn't defeat him. Ganneth through al Laddin a ring
39:46
Speaker 1: and said here, put this on, and all of a sudden,
39:48
Speaker 1: al Laddin became a green lantern. Just then, Jasmine, the
39:51
Speaker 1: Sultan's daughter, pulled out her ring and also became a
39:53
Speaker 1: green lantern, and together al Ganneth and Jasmine defeated Sinestro,
39:57
Speaker 1: and Ganneth was free to return to his own time
39:59
Speaker 1: and play guarding the galaxy, the universe whatnot. But before
40:04
Speaker 1: Ganneth did, he tasked out to help the rest of
40:06
Speaker 1: the Lantern Corps protect against the Darkest one hundred and
40:09
Speaker 1: one Nights. He teamed up with Scheherazad, Ali Baba and
40:12
Speaker 1: Sindbad and the rest is history. I like it, thank you.
40:16
Speaker 1: It is very different from mind, which I also like.
40:21
Speaker 1: I am excited for years Okay, they're singing in it
40:24
Speaker 1: all right. This one is called but what if the
40:29
Speaker 1: Genie were green? Hal Jordan has a problem. He's gone
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Speaker 1: from test pilot to mechanic after his insubordinate behavior got
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Speaker 1: him grounded by the military. He's stuck with his feet
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Speaker 1: on the ground, head in the sky. It's okay, I know,
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Speaker 1: nothing's wrong. Wait no, I'm sorry. That's that's This must
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Speaker 1: be the place a k A naive melody by the
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Speaker 1: talking heads. Anyway, Hal has found himself in a job
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Speaker 1: he doesn't really like, working for a company that he
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Speaker 1: has mixed feeling is about. He has a crush on
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Speaker 1: the CEO of the company, Carol Ferris, but she's the
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Speaker 1: daughter of the man whom How feels caused his own
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Speaker 1: father's death. This is all actual backstory for How Jordan's
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Speaker 1: d C comics. He's not where he belongs, is what
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Speaker 1: I'm getting at, and he could be so much greater now.
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Speaker 1: Working for the aerospace company Ferris Aircraft, How gets an
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Speaker 1: assignment to go out and work on some planes in
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Speaker 1: the Middle East, and while on his way to a secret,
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Speaker 1: remote location so secret he's not actually allowed to fly
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Speaker 1: into the air base, he gets lost in a sudden
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Speaker 1: sandstorm along a desert road, and fearing for his safety,
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Speaker 1: he stops driving and hunkers down until he can actually see.
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Speaker 1: And when he finally can, he sees something amazing. Ahead
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Speaker 1: of him is a strange hill, looks a bit like
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Speaker 1: a tiger's head with the mouth opening into a cave.
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Speaker 1: Drawn to this, how it gets out of his sand
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Speaker 1: covered vehicle, makes his way to that cave, and inside,
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Speaker 1: how's he's something truly phenomenal. The cave is filled with
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Speaker 1: various treasures. There are jewels and ornate decorative weapons, and gold,
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Speaker 1: so much gold. But before he lays a hand on anything,
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Speaker 1: he hears what sounds like a weak voice calling for help.
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Speaker 1: Hal breaks into a run, heading as quickly as he
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Speaker 1: can to find out who is in trouble. And then
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Speaker 1: he sees something truly amazing. A bald man with skin
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Speaker 1: that's kind of the color of fucia, kind of like,
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Speaker 1: you know, like a sort of purple Yule Brenner. He's
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Speaker 1: wearing a weird outfit and he's holding out a ring
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Speaker 1: in his palm. Take this how Jordan's, he says. The
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Speaker 1: ring glowing seems to call out to Jordan's He finds
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Speaker 1: himself compelled to take it from the strange man, slipping
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Speaker 1: onto his finger, and then the man says something really odd. Well, sinestro,
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Speaker 1: the para lax full of fear and Dougleason, but your
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Speaker 1: luck levels just hit max because the bunch of friends
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Speaker 1: you're now in, you got willpower in your corner. Now,
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Speaker 1: defending the week will be your thing. You'll make all
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Speaker 1: the little kids say Wow. All you gotta do is
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Speaker 1: wear this ring in You'll say I got mad powers
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Speaker 1: now the best I've ever seen. You can fly right
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Speaker 1: up to towers. Pal you're joining in the cor that's green.
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Speaker 1: Then the alien who's named, by the way, is Aban, Sir,
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Speaker 1: totally dies. How confused as to why a musical number
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Speaker 1: launched and then promptly fizzled out, has the ring on
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Speaker 1: his finger and nothing happens. So he points his finger
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Speaker 1: with great willpower. Nothing. He waves his hand around, nothing.
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Speaker 1: He nudges the corpse of ab and served with the ring. Nothing. Sighing,
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Speaker 1: he rubs his hands together in a nervous gesture that
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Speaker 1: we totally saw him do earlier in the movie, even
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Speaker 1: though I forgot to mention it before now, and in
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Speaker 1: the process he rubs the ring. Suddenly the ring glows
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Speaker 1: a deep green, and the cave reverberates with a voice
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Speaker 1: that says, in the brightest day, him blackest night, no
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Speaker 1: evil shall escape my sight. Let those who worship evils
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Speaker 1: might be where my power. Green lanterns light and out
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Speaker 1: pops a genie. A green Genie, How now really thrown off? Says,
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Speaker 1: did I lose my marbles in that sandstorm? The genie
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Speaker 1: laughs and explains it no. How, Jordan has just found
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Speaker 1: himself inducted into the Green Lantern core. Each member has
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Speaker 1: a special ring which houses a genie and aspect of
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Speaker 1: willpower who acts as a liaison between what the wearer
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Speaker 1: wants and how it all comes out. Just then, the
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Speaker 1: cave begins to rumble, and How begins to run towards
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Speaker 1: the entrance, but he's never gonna make it. The genie says, hey, buddy,
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Speaker 1: you can tots fly now use the ring. How waves
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Speaker 1: his hand some more and nothing really happens, and then
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Speaker 1: out of desperation, he says, I wish I could fly,
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Speaker 1: and he feels his feet leave the ground, and soon
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Speaker 1: he is being out of the cavern and like this
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Speaker 1: crazy display of agility that you just know is going
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Speaker 1: to get turned into a theme park ride somewhere at
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Speaker 1: some point. Anyway, he emerges from the cave genie into now.
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Speaker 1: How says the genie, there are a few provisos, a
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Speaker 1: few quid pro quos that we have to go over.
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Speaker 1: Sure you got this power now that you are also
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Speaker 1: tasked with using it to protect others. How, looking down
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Speaker 1: at his ring and at the ground far below his feet,
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Speaker 1: feels a sense of determination. This feels right. He can
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Speaker 1: live up to the wishes of his dearly departed father,
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Speaker 1: and he can be the hero that he had always
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Speaker 1: dreamed he might be. What follows is a montage of
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Speaker 1: How performing heroic deeds, helping people escape dangerous situations and
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Speaker 1: defeating dangerous enemies. And after months of adventuring, How turns
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Speaker 1: his eyes back home. See, there's that woman there that
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Speaker 1: he loves but hasn't figured out how he's want to
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Speaker 1: talk to her. Her name's Carol Ferris, and so Hal
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Speaker 1: turns to the genie of the ring, who really really
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Speaker 1: sets him up. All right, So we're back at Coast City,
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Speaker 1: where Carol Ferris is getting ready to head into Ferris Aircraft,
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Speaker 1: the aerospace company where she's the CEO, but she hears
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Speaker 1: a ruckuss outside, so she looks out and she sees
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Speaker 1: something she can't believe. It's the Eiffel Tower. Yeah. In
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Speaker 1: a moment, it appears as though Carol has somehow been
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Speaker 1: transported across the world and they're singing, it's the genie.
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Speaker 1: Carol Ferris, welcome to Paris thanks to Hal Jordan. What
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Speaker 1: a guy. Watch him fly whenever he wants. He fought
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Speaker 1: the Seinestro core till they don't want anymore, and now
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Speaker 1: he's at your door with croissants. And then the song
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Speaker 1: ends abruptly because we got a budget. Carol, dazzled by
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Speaker 1: Hal's genie, but more with the fact that Hal finally
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Speaker 1: worked up a way to ask her out, points out
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Speaker 1: that she doesn't date employees of her company, but she's
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Speaker 1: gonna make an exception. Oh. We also see in the
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Speaker 1: background of her closet this weird jewel is glinting at us.
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Speaker 1: It kind of looks like a sapphire. But that's an
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Speaker 1: obscure hint to a sequel that only people who are
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Speaker 1: big Green lantern fans are even going to understand. We're
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Speaker 1: just going to leave it here the end. Oh I
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Speaker 1: love that. You see, my mine always end up being
47:25
Speaker 1: origin stories where I just leave out the villains because
47:28
Speaker 1: those are always the parts in origin stories that I
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Speaker 1: like the least. I like. I like learning how the
47:35
Speaker 1: hero became the hero, but then they always have to
47:37
Speaker 1: throw in like, well, now the hero has got a
47:39
Speaker 1: face off against the villain, and that always feels like
47:41
Speaker 1: the part that doesn't work in those movies for me.
47:44
Speaker 1: So like Iron Man, aunt Man, all those kind of things.
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Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm just gonna skip it. See.
47:50
Speaker 1: I felt like in Doctors Strange, though, they gave the
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Speaker 1: villain a decent enough backstory and walk through his motivations
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Speaker 1: and they were genuine, So I agree. I agree. I
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Speaker 1: think by Dr Strange they had done the formula enough
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Speaker 1: where they were able to address that a little bit.
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Speaker 1: It still wasn't as integrated as I would have liked,
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Speaker 1: but it was better, right Like you look at Iron
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Speaker 1: Man or the First Captain American movie, or you look
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Speaker 1: at um you know, uh, aunt Man was the same.
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Speaker 1: Like a lot of those movies. The interesting stuff is
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Speaker 1: finding out how the character became the hero, and then
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Speaker 1: you have to have them have some sort of confrontation
48:37
Speaker 1: with a comparable villain, but you can't spend an equal
48:41
Speaker 1: amount of time establishing the villain, right, Like, that's just
48:44
Speaker 1: not really possible unless you want your movie to be
48:48
Speaker 1: like Peter Jackson length um, which is kind of why
48:51
Speaker 1: I wish the First Captain American movie had been split
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Speaker 1: into two, because I felt like the first half of
48:55
Speaker 1: that movie is fantastic, and the second half I could
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Speaker 1: I could just stop once it gets to the point
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Speaker 1: where they do the montage. I agree. I think a
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Speaker 1: lot of I think a lot of Marvel villains and
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Speaker 1: d C villains feel a bit rushed. Yeah, but the
49:08
Speaker 1: exception of like like the Vulture in Spider Man was great. Right,
49:14
Speaker 1: it's the villains that you don't expect to be really
49:17
Speaker 1: interesting that turned out to be the fascinating ones. But
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Speaker 1: or Loki obviously, But Loki is kind of an anti hero.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, he's an antihero. He's only sometimes villainous, which
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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll see in the series, which starts off
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Speaker 1: very soon. So that's exciting. So we are going to
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Speaker 1: end this episode now so that we can get ready
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