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Credlin | 28 October · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Pedo Krendland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the program. Here is what's coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight on Kredline. A very solid win now for
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Speaker 2: the LMP and Queensland as David Christophooley sworn in as
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Speaker 2: Premier hits the ground running to we'll get you the
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Speaker 2: latest seat count tonight and work through the federal implications
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Speaker 2: of Saturday night's win. There's some real lessons here for
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Speaker 2: the looming campaign. The left ramp up there, push to
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Speaker 2: influence courts, Victorian magistrates actually being trained on how to
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Speaker 2: avoid imposing sentences that will result in violent criminals being deported.
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Speaker 2: Legal expert Chris Merit with more plus another flashpoints of
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Speaker 2: verging in our regions. Prime agricultural land sold off to
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Speaker 2: foreign companies to be used for carbon credits. Now this
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Speaker 2: will do little to reduce our carbon footprint but seriously
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Speaker 2: jeopardize Australia's food security, not to Benshu could lightly be
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Speaker 2: the death knell, death knell for smaller farming communities. And
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Speaker 2: yet another scandal himngulfing the Prime Minister, this time over
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Speaker 2: perks he's begged for and got from former corn to
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Speaker 2: CEO Alan Joyce, probloke who spent years trying to burnish
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Speaker 2: his working class credentials, is now exposed as an out
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Speaker 2: attached freeloader who loves the celebrity high life and a freebie.
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Speaker 3: If you're the Transport Minister and you're picking up the
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Speaker 3: phone to one of the most important stakeholders in your
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Speaker 3: portfolio asking for a free upgrade, then again, I think
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister would be able to answer those questions
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Speaker 3: more effectively than anyone else, because I'm not aware of
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Speaker 3: anyone else having done it.
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Speaker 4: Are we coming back to the Prime Minister in the moment?
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Speaker 2: First, it wasn't quite the landslide the Poles that originally predicted,
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Speaker 2: but don't let that diminish what's been a very strong
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Speaker 2: win for the l ANDP in the weekend's Queensland election.
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Speaker 2: By anyone's measure, seven and a half per sent swing
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Speaker 2: to the Liberal Nationals is a terrific result. So put
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Speaker 2: it into perspective. The Labor Party took office federally at
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Speaker 2: the last election with a swing of just three point
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Speaker 2: six percent, so what David Christophully has achieved on the
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Speaker 2: weekend was double the swing that put Anthony Albaniasy into
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Speaker 2: the lodge and for the conservative side of politics. This
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Speaker 2: win is even more impressive when you consider that while
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Speaker 2: the Sunshine State is normally strong for the Coalition federally
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Speaker 2: at a state level, the center right has only been
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Speaker 2: in office for just six years since nineteen eighty nine,
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Speaker 2: so six years of l and P rule in that time,
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Speaker 2: in twenty nine years of labor rule, and it was
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Speaker 2: Labour's failures in government to turn the tie for Chrystofooley,
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Speaker 2: who campaigned relentlessly on just four issues what he called
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Speaker 2: the four crises, the youth crime crises, the health crisis,
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Speaker 2: the cost of living crisis and housing afford to bits,
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Speaker 2: all of which he said, if you elect me Queensland,
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Speaker 2: I will fix it and I'm prepared to resign if
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Speaker 2: i don't get the results. I'm promising you now, if
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Speaker 2: nothing else, that's a sign that he's serious about making
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Speaker 2: a difference.
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Speaker 4: The new Premier got to work.
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Speaker 2: On Sunday morning and today after being sworn in, he's
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Speaker 2: already removed Labour's old head of premiere in cabinet, the
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Speaker 2: longtime ALP operator Mike Kaiser. He's got his head down
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Speaker 2: working through all the briefing materials to set up his
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Speaker 2: ministerial structure to get everyone focused on delivering change, not
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Speaker 2: just announcing it. Still, I wish the Coalition hadn't been
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Speaker 2: so ready to acquiesce to Labour's unaffordable and unsustainable policies
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Speaker 2: like fifty cent public transport fairs, a shameless bribe from
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Speaker 2: Stephen Miles to try and hang on to power. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: it's now all locked in because the L ANDP matched it.
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Speaker 2: Then there was that completely confected a ball scare directly
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Speaker 2: copied from American politics, falsely alleging that the L ANDP
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Speaker 2: would roll back women's rights. Now, not a single coalition candidate,
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Speaker 2: not one, had any plans for a private member's bill
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Speaker 2: on abortion, and Chris Fool he had no intention whatsoever
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Speaker 2: of distracting his government by allowing such a bill to
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Speaker 2: come forward from his side.
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Speaker 4: But never let the facts.
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Speaker 2: Get in the way of a good scare, campaign says Labor.
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Speaker 2: A lesson here for Peter Dutton is that not getting
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Speaker 2: on top of these issues early allows the myths to run,
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Speaker 2: and that's in part why the L andp's big pole
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Speaker 2: lead was whittled back. No coalition campaigner should ever expect
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Speaker 2: a fair fight from modern Labor. It's a sad thing
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Speaker 2: to admit, but they have no record to runner, no
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Speaker 2: plan for the future, so fear is all they've got
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Speaker 2: and they will start to gear up on it. On
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Speaker 2: abortion fed even though it's not a Commonwealth issue.
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Speaker 4: You think I'm making it up.
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Speaker 2: Here was Labour's most senior Queensland minister, Senator Murray what
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Speaker 2: on this very point on Sunday morning.
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Speaker 5: I mean I saw Peter Dutton in a range of
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Speaker 5: his colleagues try to shut down the debate quickly. It's
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Speaker 5: not the Labor Party who are wanting to reopen this debate.
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Speaker 5: We've got to settle position with the laws have been
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Speaker 5: passed here in Queensland, as they have pretty much across
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Speaker 5: the country. The only people I see wanting to relitigate
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Speaker 5: whether abortion should be a crime or not are members
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Speaker 5: of the LMP. So you know, if Peter Dutton is
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Speaker 5: that concerned about this issue, maybe he could have a
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Speaker 5: word to some of his senior shadow ministers who keep
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Speaker 5: wanting to reopen this debate.
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Speaker 2: Grubby politics from a grub there, and that's why you're
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Speaker 2: going to take the lies head on. You got to
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Speaker 2: call it out because this is an issue that's deeply
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Speaker 2: personal to so many and Australian's warner respond from our
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Speaker 2: political leaders that's mature, it's dignified. Does an import American
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Speaker 2: hatreds here? And that's in part what I said to
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's own assistant Minister Pat Gorman on Saturday night.
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Speaker 2: There is no legislative or regulatory mechanism for abortion to
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Speaker 2: be dealt without a Commonwealth level and I think that
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Speaker 2: that looks to me to be opportunistic.
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Speaker 6: Well, I agree, I don't want to see a federal
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Speaker 6: election about this. But you've got Matt Canavan, Senator Alexantik
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Speaker 6: who already have bills in the Parliament that they're proposing
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Speaker 6: on this issue that's been on the no no, no, no,
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Speaker 6: no no.
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Speaker 7: On sky.
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Speaker 4: Let's be careful. And they are not to do with abortion.
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Speaker 2: They are to do with babies born alive as a
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Speaker 2: result of an attempted abortion. That is a legal issue
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Speaker 2: about what, at what point does bring the Federal Parliament
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Speaker 2: into its health. It's not to do with abortion. It's
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Speaker 2: to do with medical aid to a baby born alive.
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Speaker 4: Very different thing. You're in the past. Women, do you
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Speaker 4: think a child.
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Speaker 2: That survives a late term abortion should be left to die.
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Speaker 2: What do you think, Pat Gorman?
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Speaker 4: Do you think I think?
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Speaker 6: And I agree with you, and I was agreeing with
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Speaker 6: you sixty seconds ago. We should not be bringing the
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Speaker 6: Federal Parliament of federal elections into this baby.
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Speaker 4: Is born alive and I don't think I want the
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Speaker 4: baby to have medical care.
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Speaker 6: And what we're seeing right here is again Liberal party
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Speaker 6: operatives trying to bring this into the federal parliament debate.
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Speaker 4: I disagree with.
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Speaker 2: I think this is a meriicul issue that almost everybody
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Speaker 2: can agree with.
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Speaker 4: What that feel, Duck and Weave.
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Speaker 2: There is no social mandate to recriminalize abortion anywhere in
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Speaker 2: this country.
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Speaker 4: There's not.
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Speaker 2: There's not, But there is a growing demand from people
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Speaker 2: on all sides of the debate to recognize the legal
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Speaker 2: rights of the baby born alive after an attempt determination
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Speaker 2: and to ensure that a child is not left to
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Speaker 2: die without medical care. If we can't fix this, we
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Speaker 2: will be treating a dog better than we treat these babies.
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Speaker 2: And we should be mature enough as a country to
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Speaker 2: fix these laws without allowing it to degenerate into US
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Speaker 2: style politicking. Look still on Queensland. If you want to
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Speaker 2: know why the Greens did so badly, ask the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: He'll tell you it was all about.
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Speaker 8: Him gaining a seat off the Green's political party. I
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Speaker 8: think sends a message as well that people who elected
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Speaker 8: Green's Party representatives to state and federal Parliament expected them
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Speaker 8: to play a progressive role, not to play a blocking role,
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Speaker 8: to seek to bring people together, not to divide people.
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Speaker 8: And I think there's a big message in this result
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Speaker 8: for Adam band.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't anything to do with alban Easy.
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Speaker 2: The Greens did badly because the Coalition preferenced them last.
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Speaker 2: If only Labour had shown as much principle, there probably
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Speaker 2: be no Greens left in the Queensland Parliament. The Greens
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Speaker 2: only sneak into lower houses of Parliament when the two
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Speaker 2: mainstream parties give them their preferences. But a year back,
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton said that under his leadership the Coalition would
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Speaker 2: never preference the Greens ahead of Labour, and on this
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Speaker 2: David Chris A Foley followed his lead. It's decade since
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Speaker 2: the Greens cared about genuine conservation. For years there have
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Speaker 2: been cultural Marxists. Now they're radical activists since October seventh.
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Speaker 2: They're basically the Gaza Party, running protests that left Jewish
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Speaker 2: Queen's Landers to afraid to tell work colleagues of their
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Speaker 2: heritage or where the kipper the skull cap. Anthony Albaneze
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Speaker 2: Is is only Prime Minister because he has taken Green
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Speaker 2: preferences in his own right. At the last election, only
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Speaker 2: three out of ten Australians Action voted for him. So
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Speaker 2: forget the spin, look at the facts, and with a
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Speaker 2: federal election looming, this is now a leadership test for
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Speaker 2: alban Easy.
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Speaker 4: Will he, like Dutton and Chris A. Fooley, put the.
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Speaker 2: Greens last or will he talk tough but just like
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Speaker 2: Gillard did before him, take their vote to stay in office. Look,
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Speaker 2: let's stay on the PM and his character. What are
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Speaker 2: this news that he's accepted at least twenty two upgrades
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Speaker 2: from quantas to score a seat at the porty end
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Speaker 2: of the plane, including when he was the Transport Minister
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Speaker 2: in the right at Guillard governments. Now this is a
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Speaker 2: hugely significant revelation for a few reasons.
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Speaker 4: The first that these were.
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Speaker 2: Upgrades from economy to business or economy to first on
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Speaker 2: private trips, So in one of the examples Albanezi and
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Speaker 2: his son, Well, they got upgraded to business on a
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Speaker 2: private trip to Europe. Now that would have been about
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Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars each.
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Speaker 4: That's unheard of.
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Speaker 2: The second thing is that he scored these upgrades not
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Speaker 2: because they were offered, but because he picked up the
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Speaker 2: phone and called the Quantus CEO begging for them, begging
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Speaker 2: or demanding. Again, you're what you pick up the phone
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Speaker 2: to one of the key stakeholders in your portfolio.
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Speaker 4: Third, during much of the.
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Speaker 2: Time he accepted this largess he was the minister in
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Speaker 2: charge of regulating the aviation sector. Now, don't buy the
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Speaker 2: bs around today that every politician does this.
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Speaker 4: They do not.
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Speaker 2: As one of my former colleagues and the Abbott office
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Speaker 2: reminded me with this text over the weekend. He says,
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Speaker 2: it might be worth recalling that in twenty thirteen, Quantous
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Speaker 2: sought out the Prime Minister asking for a loan that
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Speaker 2: was public at the time. After that request, Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: Abbott flew to Europe for a family Christmas holiday and
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Speaker 2: the Abbots flew Economy. Now I can tell you Quantus
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Speaker 2: tried to upgrade them and the Prime Minister repeatedly declined
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Speaker 2: as well. My friend friend reminds me that you Peter
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Speaker 2: Credline issued a direction to all Prime ministerial staff that
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Speaker 2: they must refuse any upgrade from Quantus. He says, we
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Speaker 2: all understood that boundaries were needed. Noney Moore freebies to
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Speaker 2: the tennis freebiz to Taylor Swift, almost any event, going
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Speaker 2: almost three dozen upgrades on private family flights, a four
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Speaker 2: and a half million dollar beach shack, even talk of
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Speaker 2: holding his wedding at the lodge or Kiribilly House. Anyone
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Speaker 2: who Australians are asking themselves, is Alban easy in this
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Speaker 2: for us or himself?
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Speaker 4: Honestly it stinks.
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Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to Camber now for the headlines
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Speaker 2: Sky News at political reporter cam.
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Speaker 9: Redden Friends in high places of revelations. Anthony Alberanzi had
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Speaker 9: a direct line to the then Quantus boss Alan Joyce,
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Speaker 9: which he would use to secure guaranteed flight upgrades on
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Speaker 9: personal travel have him as an outlier in Federal Parliament.
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Speaker 4: I didn't have that sort of relationship with Alan Joyce.
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Speaker 4: I certainly do not ring Alan Joyce.
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Speaker 10: No, I don't have the Quantus CEO's number in my phone.
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Speaker 9: The upgrades from economy to business or first class were
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Speaker 9: granted during his time as a Transport minister in the
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Speaker 9: last Labor government, even as leader of the opposition over
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Speaker 9: the course of a decade.
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Speaker 3: Strange arrangements when you can pick the phone up to
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Speaker 3: the CEO and ask is the Transport Minister for an upgrade.
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Speaker 9: Following his election victory at the weekend, David Chris so
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Speaker 9: fully has been sworn in as Queensland's forty first Premier
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Speaker 9: and I will well truly.
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Speaker 7: Serve the people of Queensland in the Office of Credit.
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Speaker 9: Federal Labour says there are lessons to take from Stephen
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Speaker 9: miles defeat.
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Speaker 7: But there's was the government that had been there for
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Speaker 7: almost a decade.
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Speaker 6: Ours is a government in its first term and so
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Speaker 6: there are obvious differences.
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Speaker 9: Saturday's result has seen the Greens go backwards, losing one
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Speaker 9: of its two Queensland seats. Party leader Adam Band playing
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Speaker 9: down the federal implications.
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Speaker 10: When governments use their power to implement Green's policies, people
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Speaker 10: vote for it.
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Speaker 9: Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: Well, it seems like a tight race early on Saturday night,
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Speaker 2: didn't it, But it turned out to be a very
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Speaker 2: decisive win for the lymp and Queensland. There are still
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Speaker 2: a number of seats up in the air, so for
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Speaker 2: a breakdown on where things stand tonight, here's the Sky
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Speaker 2: News chief election analyst Tom Connell.
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Speaker 11: There is still more absent and postal vote to come,
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Speaker 11: but it's not going to change the results. You can
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Speaker 11: see sixty four percent counter it's going to get above
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Speaker 11: eighty percent, but you've already got a clear result of
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Speaker 11: six percent more than that swing to the L and
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Speaker 11: P and the swing basically is against Labor. So pretty
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Speaker 11: neat transaction in terms of a swapping there of votes,
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Speaker 11: because we've still got four seats that are in doubt,
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Speaker 11: so what are they? Morani, Gaven, Mulgrave and South Brisbane.
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Speaker 11: Now Mourani is going to be a cliffhanger between the
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Speaker 11: KAP and the LNP. It's going to go down to preferences.
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Speaker 11: It's too tight to call right now. We need to
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Speaker 11: see some absent but a possible L and P gain there.
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Speaker 11: Gaven as well is going to be something where postals
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Speaker 11: that point nine to two margin will come right back.
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Speaker 11: Absent might just squeak Labor ahead so label will be favored.
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Speaker 11: It's a potential L ANDP gain. Mulgrave and South Brisbane
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Speaker 11: are the really tough to call contests and.
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you why.
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Speaker 9: Now.
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Speaker 11: When we look first of all at South Brisbane in
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Speaker 11: this seat, you can see the primary vote actually has
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Speaker 11: the Greens then Labor. Now, if it plays out that way,
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Speaker 11: it's simple Labour get preferences from the LNP and it's
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Speaker 11: easy win fifty seven seven point seven percent or nearabouts.
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Speaker 11: But if we get enough of those preferences from one
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Speaker 11: nation to lift the L and P above Labor, then
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Speaker 11: suddenly it's an L ANDP Greens contest and the Labor
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Speaker 11: preferences help the Greens get elected. Now that's only going
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Speaker 11: to happen if the L and P vote comes up.
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Speaker 11: But there is more postal vote that surged so far
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Speaker 11: for the L and P. So that's a possibility and
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Speaker 11: one we will be keeping an eye on in terms
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Speaker 11: of weather, that is a possibility. The other one, let's
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Speaker 11: go to Cans because this is the seat of Mulgrave.
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Speaker 11: We saw this is quite a big margin twelve point
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Speaker 11: two percent, So how is it up for grabs. Look
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Speaker 11: at the primary here in the swing twenty four percent
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Speaker 11: in terms of the swing against Labor, what's going to
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Speaker 11: happen is either KAP gets up with all these preferences
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Speaker 11: and finishes second, then it's a tight contest as whether
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Speaker 11: they get ahead of the L ANDP or we're going
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Speaker 11: to see the L and P defeat the Labor Party.
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Speaker 11: So if Labor stays second, the L and P win.
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Speaker 11: If KAP comes up, they could actually take that seat.
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Speaker 11: So that's too hard to call, given not just those
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Speaker 11: parties but all those ones even on the second page,
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Speaker 11: a big field there, and it's too hard to say
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Speaker 11: before we get one by one those parties excluded and
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Speaker 11: their preferences attributed there. Why don't we take a look,
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Speaker 11: just finally as well, at the performance of the Greens.
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Speaker 11: They were speaking about getting extra seats at this election.
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Speaker 11: Well it looks as though the opposite has happened. This
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Speaker 11: is before the election, South Brisbane and Maywell were the
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Speaker 11: seats they held they wanted to pick up as well
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Speaker 11: McConnell and Cooper by getting more of that primary.
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Speaker 4: Well, let's have a look what's actually happened.
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Speaker 11: A good example is the seat of McConnell. You can
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Speaker 11: see here what the Greens always want to do is
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Speaker 11: finish second and then get help from Labor to beat
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Speaker 11: the LNP. That's their formula.
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Speaker 1: They're way off.
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Speaker 11: They've lost on the primary vote and they're way off
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Speaker 11: being able to get ahead of Labor with nine whole
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Speaker 11: percentage points. So as a result that seat has gone
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Speaker 11: away there from Green's hands to what I should say,
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Speaker 11: they haven't picked it up and Labour's hanging on to
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Speaker 11: it and that's not going to change in terms of
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Speaker 11: the federal implications. It's worth looking at those two seats.
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Speaker 11: Brisbane three point seven percent is the Greens margin. Have
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Speaker 11: a look at the swing, so not that big one
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Speaker 11: point two percent two point four, but they're going backwards
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Speaker 11: in terms of their support. And the other one with
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Speaker 11: biggest swings has been the seat of Ryan. So you
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Speaker 11: can see there these are the state seats and how
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Speaker 11: big the swing has been against the Greens on primary
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Speaker 11: vote in the overlapping ones point one but then four
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Speaker 11: point nine and six point nine albeit a tick up
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Speaker 11: Infernie Grove.
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Speaker 9: So this will be a discussion point.
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Speaker 11: The l and P and Labor to an extent will
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Speaker 11: be zeroing in again on these Queensland seats to think
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Speaker 11: perhaps they're not so secure in Green hands.
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Speaker 2: Thank you Tom how good to see fantastic and Alsis
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Speaker 2: on Saturday night as well.
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Speaker 4: Let's bring in my panel Sky.
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Speaker 2: On his host, national affairs editor at the Daily Telegraph
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Speaker 2: as well, James Morrow have Sky's political reporter.
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Speaker 4: From Cambra, Cam Reddin. Well, Cam, we'll start with you
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Speaker 4: if I can. I mean, he's hit the ground running
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Speaker 4: the premiere he got.
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Speaker 2: Sworn in today. He's already bounced the former labor guy.
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Speaker 4: And I'm not making this up.
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Speaker 2: This guy's long got labor political jobs behind him before
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Speaker 2: moving into the public service to run pre and cabinet.
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Speaker 2: He's gone and he's restructuring the front bench. The portfolios,
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Speaker 2: it's the administrative orders, they call them hugely important. What
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Speaker 2: goes with what portfolio? And it's all about the legislation
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Speaker 2: he's banking up. He wants it all passed by Christmas.
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Speaker 2: He's bringing the parliament back. I mean David Chris of Fuole,
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Speaker 2: he means business.
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Speaker 9: It's a new government and a new start. Peter, you
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Speaker 9: only get one chance at a first impression in an
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Speaker 9: election win like this, and David Chris a fully sure.
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Speaker 9: He copped some flak throughout the campaign for being a
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Speaker 9: small target. But one thing I guess that does do
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Speaker 9: is it focuses the narrative once you finally hit the
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Speaker 9: government benches. So it's no surprise that crime is by
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Speaker 9: far and away the priority, and that he wants to
19:42
Speaker 9: get moving to get those laws around adult crime, adult time,
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Speaker 9: early intervention for youth as well passed by Christmas. That
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Speaker 9: was one of his core election promises, basically a day
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Speaker 9: one promise if you like. So it's no surprise that
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Speaker 9: he was wasting no time even yesterday before this swearing
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Speaker 9: in laying the groundwork for that. And I suppose Peter,
19:59
Speaker 9: when you such measurable targets around that, we know that
20:02
Speaker 9: number two hundred and eighty nine thousand, six hundred and
20:04
Speaker 9: fifty seven, that's how many crime victims there were in
20:07
Speaker 9: the last financial year in Queensland. He says, if he
20:09
Speaker 9: can't get that down, he'll resign. So if you hit
20:12
Speaker 9: those marks and he stayed relatively scandal free, then he's
20:15
Speaker 9: already a long way towards the second term, even though
20:17
Speaker 9: he's just got there.
20:20
Speaker 2: And James my point before about preferences in the Greens
20:22
Speaker 2: labor out today almost fiddle labor trying to claim this
20:27
Speaker 2: is a victory that they have pushed back on the
20:29
Speaker 2: Greens or they take their preferences. The yell and P
20:32
Speaker 2: put them last. The yell and P preference changes, they
20:36
Speaker 2: were the game changer here. Nothing coming out of camera
20:39
Speaker 2: made a difference.
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Speaker 1: Well exactly right here. And I mean it's all very
20:43
Speaker 1: well and good for them to talk tough about this
20:45
Speaker 1: sort of thing, Peter, but when it comes down to it,
20:47
Speaker 1: you know they will take those preferences. And we know
20:50
Speaker 1: that we basically have the Greens and Labor and kind
20:52
Speaker 1: of an informal coalition already. For all the muscular, hairy
20:56
Speaker 1: chested talk by Anthony Alberinezi about the Greens were very
21:00
Speaker 1: much peas in the pot here. So come the next election,
21:03
Speaker 1: I would love to see them take the lesson of
21:06
Speaker 1: this election, which is that you know, you don't need
21:09
Speaker 1: the Greens if you stand up to them. Most people
21:12
Speaker 1: actually reject what the Greens are, and particularly what they've
21:15
Speaker 1: become over the last year or so, which is just,
21:18
Speaker 1: you know, I think, abhorrent to most people. But we
21:21
Speaker 1: won't see that sort of spine, we won't see that
21:23
Speaker 1: sort of backby on Fred.
21:26
Speaker 2: Just quickly Cam Stephen Miles looks like he'll stay on
21:30
Speaker 2: there was some talk of an open voter or a challenge,
21:34
Speaker 2: but Cameron Dick now seems to have pulled out and
21:37
Speaker 2: the Unions Gary Bullock in particular, he's a heavyweight up there.
21:41
Speaker 2: He's the guy they say that pushed out Anastagia palichet
21:45
Speaker 2: four miles. He's now putting miles under preciated dump Cameron
21:50
Speaker 2: and Dick. I mean, it was a terribly ungracious speech
21:54
Speaker 2: we saw on Saturday night from the then premier. He
21:57
Speaker 2: had to eat humble pie. Yes, today, but it looks
22:01
Speaker 2: like he's here to stay.
22:04
Speaker 9: It almost felt like we'd been taken back in time
22:06
Speaker 9: in the DeLorean Peter and we were watching the labor
22:08
Speaker 9: launch rather than what was supposed to be a concession speech,
22:10
Speaker 9: because it seemed like one of the first things you
22:12
Speaker 9: learn when you're doing public speaking, or if you're a
22:14
Speaker 9: comedian or in whatever public capacity, you talk to your audience,
22:18
Speaker 9: and those speeches, whether they're concessions or victory speeches or whatever,
22:22
Speaker 9: their speeches to the people, to the voters, to Queenslanders,
22:25
Speaker 9: Whereas that really sounded like the kind of speech that
22:28
Speaker 9: was designed for behind closed doors, for the lave of
22:30
Speaker 9: faithful to say, hey, I'm a fighter, give me another
22:33
Speaker 9: go at this in four years time, So it just
22:35
Speaker 9: didn't really fit the occasion. Not to mention there was
22:37
Speaker 9: no actual concession of course Peter either, But it looks
22:41
Speaker 9: like Stephen Miles did enough to keep himself around for now.
22:44
Speaker 9: See how he goes in a couple of years time
22:46
Speaker 9: and whether those polls are abble to narrow and if
22:48
Speaker 9: he's able to sort of keep up that appearance that
22:50
Speaker 9: he did during the campaign to make himself look a
22:52
Speaker 9: little bit more electable and perhaps save some of the
22:54
Speaker 9: furniture on the way, James, I want to go to.
22:58
Speaker 2: This upgrade scandal engulfing the Prime Minister. Yes, politicians will
23:04
Speaker 2: often accept upgrades that are all disclosed, but it's usually
23:08
Speaker 2: when they've bought an economy ticket, a taxpayer funded economy ticket.
23:12
Speaker 4: They've accepted the upgrades.
23:13
Speaker 2: The taxpayer is better off if they are not paying
23:15
Speaker 2: for the business class seat. It's all disclosed, but it's
23:18
Speaker 2: very unusual for anyone to accept an upgrade on a
23:21
Speaker 2: privately paid trip, very very rare, and just disclosing it
23:27
Speaker 2: doesn't remove what I would regard as the taint, particularly
23:31
Speaker 2: in the case of the bloke administering the laws, regulations,
23:35
Speaker 2: the legislation and everything to do with the aviation industry.
23:38
Speaker 2: Only we like the Health minister turning up and never
23:41
Speaker 2: paying for anything at the doctor, or getting an operation
23:44
Speaker 2: for free, or the Minister in charge of Trade getting
23:47
Speaker 2: imported free vehicles and running off with a BMW or
23:51
Speaker 2: something like that. The idea that you buy an economy
23:55
Speaker 2: seat to London and you get put into first class
23:59
Speaker 2: because you're you're ring the boss of the airline demining
24:02
Speaker 2: for it.
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Speaker 4: I think this is.
24:04
Speaker 2: Outrageous and I think because he was in that portfolio,
24:08
Speaker 2: I think this is a corruption allegation. It's an absolute
24:11
Speaker 2: a cloud over his integrity and I think it's very serious.
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Speaker 1: Peter, I agree one hundred percent. Look, this stinks to
24:18
Speaker 1: high heaven here. Now, it's not about just the upgrade
24:22
Speaker 1: per per se, just an upgrade. That sort of thing
24:24
Speaker 1: happens all the time, load management whatever, frequent flyers, they
24:28
Speaker 1: all get, you know, upgrades, free upgrades whatever. If your politician,
24:31
Speaker 1: you can't say fine, you you can say no. But
24:35
Speaker 1: the points that you make though, is that he was
24:38
Speaker 1: the guy regulating quantis in a highly regulated market. This
24:43
Speaker 1: is why this stinks. And the fact that he was
24:46
Speaker 1: calling and saying, oh, hey, Alan, look I'm just on
24:49
Speaker 1: a QF one to London. You know, could we maybe
24:52
Speaker 1: get the fam bumped up to business class. Well, that
24:56
Speaker 1: is outrageous. That should be happening at all, because you
24:59
Speaker 1: know that is a benefit, and it's a big benefit
25:02
Speaker 1: flying in the back of the plane versus the point
25:04
Speaker 1: and we all know that, and so you know, for
25:07
Speaker 1: him to make that call is just outraged. And as
25:11
Speaker 1: you say, to contrast that with the behavior of Tony Abbott,
25:13
Speaker 1: he would fly to Europe with the family in economy
25:16
Speaker 1: and say no, no, no, no, no, I'm not taking that.
25:18
Speaker 1: It's fine, we will sit up the back. That's fine,
25:21
Speaker 1: totally different. He refused, exactly. And you know, and this
25:26
Speaker 1: and aviation is such a highly regulated business. You know,
25:31
Speaker 1: the whole thing with Katar, the whole thing with Virgin
25:34
Speaker 1: You know, the amount of Commonwealth money that flows through
25:36
Speaker 1: Quantus is unbelievable and it's just a disgrace and it
25:41
Speaker 1: cuts through with people because it's like the house, it's
25:44
Speaker 1: like everything else. We know, this guy loves his perks.
25:46
Speaker 1: We know he loves all the you know, the fancy
25:49
Speaker 1: stuff that goes along with the office, and I think
25:51
Speaker 1: that this cuts through. I think it is damning and
25:53
Speaker 1: I think it needs a lot more investigation.
25:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I Taylor the Perk minister, that's where he is now.
25:59
Speaker 4: I think it's terrible.
26:00
Speaker 2: I think it's all of this in aggregate form cuts
26:04
Speaker 2: through with punters in a way that not much else does. Hey,
26:06
Speaker 2: let's go to the canned a visa of US commentator
26:11
Speaker 2: provoclateur Candace Owens. Tony Burke has announced he's canceled her visa.
26:17
Speaker 2: She was meant to be here for tour CAM. What's
26:20
Speaker 2: the Minister's reasoning.
26:23
Speaker 9: It's all a character assessment on this one, Peter. He
26:26
Speaker 9: believes Tony Burke that after having spoken to his department,
26:30
Speaker 9: getting a brief on what she was potentially going to
26:32
Speaker 9: say on this tour, and also speaking to the Anti
26:35
Speaker 9: Semitism convenor or representative as well in that regard, Tony
26:41
Speaker 9: Burke has just made a character assessment on this call.
26:43
Speaker 9: He says that he doesn't want to take the risk
26:44
Speaker 9: given some of the things that Candice Owens has said
26:46
Speaker 9: about the Holocaust and religion and transgender people and other
26:51
Speaker 9: things broadly, He's just made the call on this and
26:54
Speaker 9: said it would be a safer path, if you like,
26:56
Speaker 9: if she makes those comments outside of Australia, even though
26:59
Speaker 9: you can find them on He doesn't want her making
27:01
Speaker 9: them in person in Australia.
27:04
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I look to him now at to
27:06
Speaker 2: punt some of the radical Islamist preachers in his own
27:09
Speaker 2: electorate along with Owens. I think fair is fair across
27:12
Speaker 2: the board. Let's go to the US. Seven days to go, James,
27:16
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what we're in the countdown.
27:17
Speaker 4: Absolutely no.
27:19
Speaker 2: Trump packed out the famed Madison Square Garden in New
27:22
Speaker 2: York City today, nearly twenty thousand supporters. He out a
27:26
Speaker 2: cast one thousands on the stage. Even Millennia, we haven't
27:28
Speaker 2: seen much of hers.
27:29
Speaker 4: She was there. Have a look.
27:32
Speaker 9: They spent ten years telling you Trump is a hater.
27:35
Speaker 4: Do you feel that on him?
27:36
Speaker 9: No, you don't.
27:37
Speaker 7: America's not.
27:38
Speaker 9: It's just going to be great. America is going to
27:40
Speaker 9: reach heights that it has never seen before. The future
27:44
Speaker 9: is going to be amazing.
27:46
Speaker 12: Please welcome Oaront, Commander in Chief, my husband, President.
27:52
Speaker 13: Goma, Jenny Tom Next Tuesday, you have to stand up
27:57
Speaker 13: and you have to tell Kamala Harris Pamala you're fired,
28:04
Speaker 13: Get out, Get out.
28:06
Speaker 10: You're fired.
28:09
Speaker 2: New York's about his left laning as Melbourne. So they
28:11
Speaker 2: get twenty thousand people. That's a lot of momentum coming
28:15
Speaker 2: out of that rally.
28:15
Speaker 4: It's huge.
28:17
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean, look, New York hasn't gone for
28:19
Speaker 1: a Republican candidate since I think Ronald Reagan in nineteen
28:23
Speaker 1: eighty four, if my memory serves correctly. But that said,
28:26
Speaker 1: new York state is you know, a lot of different
28:28
Speaker 1: New York. CIT's the city, which is of course very liberal,
28:31
Speaker 1: but a lot of people in liberal New York are
28:33
Speaker 1: not so happy with the settlement anymore, the liberal settlement anymore.
28:36
Speaker 1: Plus you've got upstate New York. It's a very big state.
28:38
Speaker 1: And at the last governatorial election in twenty twenty two,
28:41
Speaker 1: Kathy Hochel, the Democrat, only one fifty three to forty seven,
28:45
Speaker 1: which is, you know, not huge. So I'm not saying
28:48
Speaker 1: it's in play. But the bigger point here though, is
28:51
Speaker 1: just Peter about the momentum of this campaign, and the
28:53
Speaker 1: Trump campaign just has a big days and the narrative
28:58
Speaker 1: is much bigger, much more moment whereas Harris, you know,
29:02
Speaker 1: she hasn't had a good day on the trail. I
29:04
Speaker 1: think for days, if not weeks, look.
29:08
Speaker 2: At everything I've watched her closely over the weekend, beyond
29:12
Speaker 2: say Michelle Obama and others. They're not talking up her
29:15
Speaker 2: record because they want to hide from her record, or
29:18
Speaker 2: they're really running. James is a big Dia tribe on Trump,
29:22
Speaker 2: and I think further amplifying this gender split. We're seeing,
29:25
Speaker 2: you know, Democrats and women and Republicans and men.
29:29
Speaker 1: And you know, on that gender split. It's really interesting
29:31
Speaker 1: because I think they're exacerbating the gender split because the
29:35
Speaker 1: way they talk to men and about men, I think
29:38
Speaker 1: is turning off an awful lot of men. I mean,
29:40
Speaker 1: if you look at what Michelle Obama said on the weekend,
29:43
Speaker 1: you know, if you read more in Dowd's column in
29:45
Speaker 1: the New York Times, it's all these sorts of caricatures
29:47
Speaker 1: of men that men just say, look, you know you
29:51
Speaker 1: don't like me, you don't want me. I'll go over
29:53
Speaker 1: here because you want me to act like something different
29:55
Speaker 1: to who I am and caricature me as this sort
29:58
Speaker 1: of you know, ogre and you know everything else. And
30:01
Speaker 1: so I don't think it's working. And more than that, Peter,
30:04
Speaker 1: the joy is gone from the campaign. Where's the happiness,
30:06
Speaker 1: where's the fun, where's the late touch? Everything is now
30:10
Speaker 1: just stop the fascist Donald Trump. That's all they have now,
30:14
Speaker 1: and I just I can't see it working for them.
30:19
Speaker 4: It's fascinating. I'm watching every minute of it like we
30:21
Speaker 4: all are. Thank you both. See you next week and
30:23
Speaker 4: we'll see you of course in the United States.
30:25
Speaker 2: James, All right, after the break, what's going on in
30:28
Speaker 2: Victoria when magistrates are actually being trained on how to
30:32
Speaker 2: impose sentences so violent migrant criminals are spared deportation. Plus
30:38
Speaker 2: the worrying trend that seeing prime agricultural land sold off
30:42
Speaker 2: to foreign companies and used for carbon credits. Welcome back
30:50
Speaker 2: to the calm, the growing concerns the prime agricultural land
30:54
Speaker 2: will be lost to foreign companies buying up large swathes
30:56
Speaker 2: of our best land just to earn carbon credits. I'll
31:00
Speaker 2: explain what's happening on the ground in a moment, but first,
31:04
Speaker 2: it's almost weekly now that we've got news story about
31:07
Speaker 2: the push to drive our judiciary further to the left.
31:10
Speaker 4: Just the other week it was revealed.
31:11
Speaker 2: That a manual commissioned by the New South Wales Judicial
31:15
Speaker 2: watchdog and endorsed by the Australasian Institute of Judicial Administration,
31:20
Speaker 2: explores the idea of quote therapeutic jurisprudence with the goal
31:25
Speaker 2: of reforming the law so that it has a positive
31:27
Speaker 2: impact on the well being of defendants.
31:30
Speaker 4: This included calling for judges to be.
31:32
Speaker 2: More trauma informed when dealing with Indigenous descendant defendants and
31:37
Speaker 2: even to consider aspects of the Islamic faith after quote
31:42
Speaker 2: as it quote offers clear moral and ethical guidelines.
31:47
Speaker 4: So that's new South Wales. Well, today we.
31:49
Speaker 2: Read in Victoria magistrates have actually been trained on how
31:54
Speaker 2: to avoid imposing sentences that would result in violent migrant
31:57
Speaker 2: criminals from being deported from Australia. Joined me now to
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Speaker 2: discuss what the heck's going on Legal Affairs contributed at
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Speaker 2: The Australian, Chris merits, Well, let's start with Victoria. Under
32:09
Speaker 2: federal law, Chris, A legislation says you can deport a
32:14
Speaker 2: non citizen if they've been in Australia for less than
32:17
Speaker 2: ten years and that they've been sentenced for more than
32:20
Speaker 2: a year in prison.
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Speaker 4: So what's happening here.
32:23
Speaker 2: The judges are being trained to hand out sentences just
32:28
Speaker 2: below this threshold.
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Speaker 14: Look what this shows is a weakness in the law.
32:36
Speaker 14: The problem is that the policy decision on whether convicted
32:40
Speaker 14: pedophiles foreign pedophiles should be deported at the end of
32:44
Speaker 14: their sentence has effectively been abrogated from Parliament and sent
32:48
Speaker 14: back down to magistrates for goodness sake, and it's a
32:52
Speaker 14: problem in the law. This is easily fixed, and I'm
32:55
Speaker 14: surprised that the law has been structured the way it
33:00
Speaker 14: has been. But instead of focusing on the amount of
33:04
Speaker 14: time that a foreign pedophile is sentenced to less than
33:09
Speaker 14: a year, you get to stay in Australia at the
33:12
Speaker 14: end of your sentence more than a year and you've
33:14
Speaker 14: got to go home. The focus should be on whether
33:16
Speaker 14: they're convicted of an offense that carries a penalty of
33:21
Speaker 14: a year or more. That would ensure that all foreign
33:24
Speaker 14: pedophiles leave the country at the end of their sentence.
33:27
Speaker 14: That shouldn't be a decision taken by a judicial officer.
33:31
Speaker 14: That's a policy decision, and it's bad for the judiciary
33:35
Speaker 14: to send those decisions down to the magistracy.
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Speaker 2: Chris, you make a good point because if you are
33:43
Speaker 2: an MP and you are convicted of a crime that
33:47
Speaker 2: carries a sentence of twelve months or more. Even if
33:51
Speaker 2: you yourself don't serve that sentence, but it carries that sentence.
33:57
Speaker 4: You're out.
33:59
Speaker 2: So why and that same principle apply to this legislation.
34:04
Speaker 2: And I guess it begs the question the government should
34:07
Speaker 2: remedy this loophole and if they won't do it, the
34:09
Speaker 2: Opposition should put the bill into the Parliament and shame
34:11
Speaker 2: the government this side of Christmas to do the right thing.
34:16
Speaker 4: Look, at least we.
34:17
Speaker 14: Now know about this. The question of whether Victorian magistrates
34:22
Speaker 14: are actually being trained to do this, I don't think
34:25
Speaker 14: that's the point. They're being informed about the consequences of
34:29
Speaker 14: a weak law, and there would be some magistrates who
34:34
Speaker 14: might think it's a good thing to take advantage of
34:37
Speaker 14: that weak law, and I don't think that should be allowed.
34:40
Speaker 14: I think Parliament has clearly made a decision and the
34:44
Speaker 14: way this law could be implemented would be against the
34:49
Speaker 14: intent of Parliament. Parliament once rid of these people.
34:52
Speaker 2: At the end of this sentence, just on this who's
34:55
Speaker 2: signing off from this training, Who thinks this training is
34:58
Speaker 2: a good idea to tell magistrates? This is how you
35:01
Speaker 2: circumvent the will of the Parliament. Who's come up with
35:04
Speaker 2: this idea.
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Speaker 14: Look, it depends on what exactly was said at these
35:08
Speaker 14: training courses. If it was this is how you circumvent
35:12
Speaker 14: the Lord, this is how you keep pedophiles in Australia,
35:14
Speaker 14: that's a borrnch. But I would expect that what would
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Speaker 14: happen is that they would be told that this is
35:21
Speaker 14: the consequence of you sentencing somebody to less than a year.
35:26
Speaker 14: You can ensure that, if you're feeling compassionate on that
35:31
Speaker 14: particular day, that a convicted foreign pedophile can stay in
35:35
Speaker 14: Australia forever. That's not I imagine that that's not what
35:41
Speaker 14: Federal Parliament intended.
35:44
Speaker 2: Now it's a Paul and Chris Merrit, thank you. We'll
35:47
Speaker 2: stay across this issue. I tell you what stuff is
35:49
Speaker 2: going on in our courts. Were needed to expose it,
35:51
Speaker 2: and we will after the break the carbon push, it's
35:53
Speaker 2: forcing farmers off the land. If we're not careful, it'll
35:57
Speaker 2: also start impacting our food security. Explain what's happening in
36:00
Speaker 2: a moment lost a bit later on my prediction for
36:03
Speaker 2: when I think we're going to head to the polls
36:04
Speaker 2: for the federal election.
36:06
Speaker 4: I've seen a few more science today and I reckon.
36:08
Speaker 4: My prediction is on the money welcerbacks still come.
36:16
Speaker 2: The trend in Queensland's out of suburbs will have sent
36:19
Speaker 2: a shockwave through labor over the weekend. But first, another
36:23
Speaker 2: flashpoint is emerging between farmers and the growing green industry
36:28
Speaker 2: that's largely going ignored.
36:30
Speaker 4: The concern comes.
36:31
Speaker 2: From farming communities over decision made by the Foreign Investment
36:34
Speaker 2: Review Board back in twenty twenty two to approve the
36:38
Speaker 2: purchase of farming properties in the Korengamite area. This is
36:41
Speaker 2: in southwest Victoria to German company munich Re. This is
36:46
Speaker 2: all for the purpose of timber plantations which can then
36:49
Speaker 2: earn carbon credits. Now, beyond the fact that farmers in
36:53
Speaker 2: the area are rightly concerned about what this means for
36:55
Speaker 2: their communities and livelihoods, the broader implications is that one
36:59
Speaker 2: of our prime agricultural areas will cease to now produce food,
37:05
Speaker 2: impacting of course food security and jobs and the impact
37:08
Speaker 2: particularly on towns in rural Australia. Joining me now to
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Speaker 2: discuss this, councilor elect for the kurrymungal Ward. Importantly, also
37:16
Speaker 2: he's a dairy farmer in the region. Jamie Vogels. Jamie,
37:20
Speaker 2: thank you for your time up front ial declare, I've
37:23
Speaker 2: got a sister who's on a dairy farm down that way,
37:26
Speaker 2: not this specific area, but I know from her and
37:29
Speaker 2: her husband's experience. I mean this is fantastic dairy soil,
37:33
Speaker 2: high rainfall. Of course you produce some of the best
37:36
Speaker 2: high quality dairy and meat in the country. This is
37:40
Speaker 2: a concern that will lose this area away from food
37:45
Speaker 2: production into timber. But worse than that are carbon credits
37:49
Speaker 2: for a foreign player.
37:53
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: Thanks Beata and first level declared that on councilor elect
37:57
Speaker 12: not councilor at the moronment and don't speak on behalf
38:01
Speaker 12: of councilors or the Kranenwatshire as a dairy farmer. The
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Speaker 12: massive issues with with what's happening at the moment the
38:10
Speaker 12: rapid influx of of blue gums into area which.
38:14
Speaker 7: Is prime agricultural land for for mainly dairy.
38:19
Speaker 12: Roughly what the Foreign Review Investment Borders approved two hundred
38:23
Speaker 12: million dollars in Southwest Victoria for blue gum plantations.
38:29
Speaker 7: This has been targeted not across the whole of.
38:32
Speaker 12: The Southwest Victoria, which is a large area, has been
38:34
Speaker 12: targeted pretty much in the Hayshbury area, which is outside
38:40
Speaker 12: of irrigation, the the probably the highest producer of.
38:47
Speaker 7: Dairy. So you know, we've we've we've.
38:50
Speaker 12: Got issues from from community level through to industry level
38:55
Speaker 12: from from this.
38:58
Speaker 7: Disapproval.
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Speaker 4: All right, let's just.
39:02
Speaker 2: We'll get into the community impacts at the moment. But
39:04
Speaker 2: what's pretty counterintuitive here. All of these gums, these blue
39:09
Speaker 2: gums that are planted, will be used to offset carbon
39:12
Speaker 2: output for this German company. But your soils are some
39:16
Speaker 2: of the most carbon efficient in the country. So if
39:19
Speaker 2: we take dairy out and we import our dairy then
39:22
Speaker 2: from another area.
39:23
Speaker 4: In Australia or overseas.
39:25
Speaker 2: We are currently getting dairy products from some of the
39:29
Speaker 2: best low carbon soils in the country, but will then
39:33
Speaker 2: import dairy from areas where they've got higher carbon soils,
39:37
Speaker 2: so we'll lose that current carbon efficiency carbon benefit. But
39:42
Speaker 2: of course a lot of the profits here and all
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Speaker 2: the benefits of these carbon sinks are involved with a
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Speaker 2: German company, not even Australia.
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Speaker 12: So these carbon credits will be owned by Germany and
39:57
Speaker 12: have to be purchased back by Australian companies.
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Speaker 7: Government department staff set their carbon So that's.
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Speaker 12: A complete negative for productivity and for economic value and
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Speaker 12: probably with one of the one of the other things
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Speaker 12: that drives the cost of living. As these companies purchase
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Speaker 12: these carbon credits, they just passed the costs.
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Speaker 7: On, so over the cost more to buy.
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Speaker 12: And we are extremely carbon efficient the whole country, not
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Speaker 12: just here, but if you look into it as a
40:29
Speaker 12: country for agriculture, were probably up there with the top
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Speaker 12: three of most.
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Speaker 7: Carbon efficient in food production in the world.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 12: And the world's got one on atmosphere. The milk production
40:40
Speaker 12: for the world's not going down. It can produce, it'll
40:42
Speaker 12: get produced in other countries that are much higher increasing
40:46
Speaker 12: the carbon.
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Speaker 7: Yeah into the atmosphere.
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Speaker 2: And of course there is labor intensive so therey means
40:54
Speaker 2: a lot of jobs in your region. I mean I
40:56
Speaker 2: grew up in a little country town. And when jobs
40:58
Speaker 2: start to go there's not enough young kids in the school,
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Speaker 2: and the school shuts down, there's not enough people buying
41:04
Speaker 2: at the supermarket, it loses jobs or leaves town. The
41:07
Speaker 2: post office goes as well. Give people an understanding of
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Speaker 2: what's already happening to a lot of little towns in
41:14
Speaker 2: around these big plantations.
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Speaker 8: So yeah.
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Speaker 12: I was just talking to one of our service providers
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Speaker 12: today and he's saying, with one particular farm leaving, that'll
41:24
Speaker 12: be fifty k straight out of his income. And you
41:28
Speaker 12: can exacerbate da out through how much is happening with
41:31
Speaker 12: the two hundred meion, we're probably looking at about ten
41:33
Speaker 12: thousand hectares going to blue gums, which are wood pulp trees,
41:38
Speaker 12: not construction timber as well. So with all the money disappearing,
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Speaker 12: probably every hundred hectares would equate to one job on
41:48
Speaker 12: farm with a three time job multiplier through the economy
41:51
Speaker 12: as value add to our products as well as economic
41:57
Speaker 12: turnover of dairy turns over about six thousand dollars the
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Speaker 12: heck there per year, and with the trees we cannot
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Speaker 12: find out a proper figure, but but there once you
42:09
Speaker 12: let the subsidy farmers in that sort of distort the
42:12
Speaker 12: market and probably servize.
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Speaker 7: Everyone if they're going to keep farming.
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Speaker 12: So we're looking at two hundred tons of carbon offsets
42:20
Speaker 12: as why they're making it viable whether it was not
42:23
Speaker 12: a viable option to do wood pop trees without the
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Speaker 12: carbon offsets, so as you lose all this economic value
42:32
Speaker 12: out of our area and all these jobs out of
42:34
Speaker 12: the area. Then you start to look at closures or
42:39
Speaker 12: of schools and and other facility. The football clubs can't
42:44
Speaker 12: get teams together, the netball clubs suffer. We can't get
42:48
Speaker 12: volunteers for the CFA as well as ses and other services.
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Speaker 7: So that's sort of it's a big issue that's sort
42:58
Speaker 7: of just just started.
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Speaker 12: There's a three year program I think they're doing out there,
43:02
Speaker 12: and neck there's in and we're already seeing a lot
43:05
Speaker 12: of issues starting to rear their heads.
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Speaker 2: I got to leave there, Jamie, but I'm sure my
43:12
Speaker 2: viewers are watching you, listening to you and saying, thank
43:14
Speaker 2: God you've got yourself on the council, because I don't
43:17
Speaker 2: think many people around the country understand the scale of
43:20
Speaker 2: what's about to hit. You are part of the partner,
43:22
Speaker 2: the canary in the coal mine, and more will come
43:25
Speaker 2: Jamie Vogel's councilor elect there. Thank you for your time.
43:29
Speaker 2: All right, we'll keep saying with that issue. And I
43:31
Speaker 2: was happening elsewhere, but I was right across that issue.
43:34
Speaker 2: Wasn't said because my sister lives down that way.
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Speaker 1: All right.
43:36
Speaker 2: After the break, the massive uptick in government advertising by
43:39
Speaker 2: labor tells me a fair bit about election timing, plus
43:43
Speaker 2: what will be the lesson labor learns from Queensland that
43:47
Speaker 2: they'll then copy at a.
43:48
Speaker 4: Federal level after break.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's bring in my panel now joining me
43:56
Speaker 2: Liberal Senate of for Queensland, the LMP's James McGrath, A
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Speaker 2: Allen MP, Lowerhouse MP Keith Pitt Well Jens to you both.
44:04
Speaker 4: I know you're l and p members.
44:05
Speaker 2: Congratulations on a terrific result on the weekend and that
44:09
Speaker 2: swing James McGrath is just strengthening seven and a half
44:13
Speaker 2: percent now could even be higher comfortable majority. One of
44:18
Speaker 2: the things that's interesting, and this will worry the labor
44:19
Speaker 2: strategists federally, is the impact on the labor vote in
44:24
Speaker 2: the outer suburbs.
44:25
Speaker 4: It's basically collapsed. This will worry them.
44:31
Speaker 15: It'll worry them a lot because the labor vote collapsed
44:33
Speaker 15: across Queensland, particularly in the regions and their outer suburbs.
44:38
Speaker 15: Now Labor, in my view, is going to go into
44:41
Speaker 15: minority government at best for them after the next election,
44:45
Speaker 15: so they need to try and win seats. They're not
44:47
Speaker 15: going to win seats here in Queensland with what happened
44:51
Speaker 15: on Saturday, and seats like Blair look very interesting for us,
44:56
Speaker 15: Like Art which is always going to be a bit
44:57
Speaker 15: tough for us up in the far North, it looks
44:59
Speaker 15: like that looks good for us. But if this is
45:01
Speaker 15: replicated across Australia, those mortgage belt suburbs, they're turning on labor.
45:09
Speaker 4: And of course, Keith, you can see you play out
45:11
Speaker 4: in this campaign.
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Speaker 2: Dirty tricks, scare campaigns like the abortion stuff, but also
45:15
Speaker 2: big spending money that Queensland can't afford. This will be
45:19
Speaker 2: the charmers playbook. Money Australia can't afford. They haven't got
45:23
Speaker 2: a record to run on, they haven't got a plan
45:24
Speaker 2: for the future, so they'll try and buy and scare
45:27
Speaker 2: their way back into the lodge, won't they.
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Speaker 16: Well, we saw medi scare, we've seen what happened with
45:35
Speaker 16: what they've done on abortion, which was just disgraceful, Peter,
45:38
Speaker 16: Absolutely disgraceful, particularly for our female volunteers on the booths.
45:42
Speaker 16: Scare campaigns work, That's why they do it, and I'm
45:45
Speaker 16: sure they'll do it again, something new and bright and shiny,
45:48
Speaker 16: probably around nuclear I would have thought, Peter.
45:50
Speaker 4: But they'll also target.
45:51
Speaker 16: The green seats in Queensland and elsewhere because the Green's
45:54
Speaker 16: they're right off the boil.
45:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, just on nuclear Keith, I mean, I think if
45:59
Speaker 2: you live within our one hundred k's fifty k's of
46:02
Speaker 2: a nuclear power plant, if you said every household you'll
46:05
Speaker 2: get free electricity for the eighty year life of that
46:08
Speaker 2: nuclear power plant. I think people will be putting up
46:10
Speaker 2: their hands to move near a nuclear power plant.
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Speaker 16: Oh, that's exactly right.
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Speaker 7: But not only that.
46:17
Speaker 16: Look at the opportunities to build new areas with new housing,
46:21
Speaker 16: with new jobs, with highly paid jobs, highly skilled jobs,
46:24
Speaker 16: new industries and those types of incentives will certainly add
46:28
Speaker 16: to the incentive for people to move there. Look, I
46:31
Speaker 16: think this is blue sky thinking. It's a great policy
46:33
Speaker 16: from the Coalition, and the potential to build regional Australia
46:36
Speaker 16: in particular with new city centers and all things that
46:39
Speaker 16: go with them, hospitals and schools and all the rest,
46:41
Speaker 16: will be a great outcome for the country.
46:45
Speaker 4: James I made the point at the top of the show.
46:46
Speaker 2: When Tony Abott was Prime Minister, he was offered private
46:50
Speaker 2: flight upgrades. He knocked them all back. Eating think it
46:53
Speaker 2: was a good look that he would take an upgrade
46:55
Speaker 2: on a private flight, pay for it himself. He says,
46:58
Speaker 2: sit where you pay for But not so the Prime
47:00
Speaker 2: Minister not only does he take the upgrades for private trips,
47:04
Speaker 2: but he picks up the phone and calls the biggest
47:07
Speaker 2: stakeholder in his portfolio and either begs for them or
47:12
Speaker 2: demands them. Now, this would be corruption if it was
47:15
Speaker 2: a private company, If this was happening in a boardroom,
47:18
Speaker 2: this would be corruption. What's going to happen with this
47:20
Speaker 2: when the Parliament returns?
47:24
Speaker 15: Oh, this thinks most of us are just happy for
47:26
Speaker 15: our Quantus flight to take off on time and land
47:28
Speaker 15: on time. But we've got this Prime Minister who thinks
47:31
Speaker 15: it's perfectly normal while he is the Transport Minister or
47:35
Speaker 15: the shadow Transport Minister to make these phone calls. You
47:39
Speaker 15: can be guaranteed that the Opposition are going to target
47:43
Speaker 15: the government over this in the coming week. We've also
47:46
Speaker 15: got estimates next week, so I'm pretty sure that some
47:48
Speaker 15: questions are going to be asked there in relation to
47:52
Speaker 15: this very cozy and I'm being polite relationship between the
47:56
Speaker 15: Prime Minister and Quantus because it does lead to perceptions
48:01
Speaker 15: of badness where someone is doing this is what was
48:08
Speaker 15: quantus wanted in What did quantus want in return for this?
48:11
Speaker 7: That's the question.
48:12
Speaker 2: Yes, we're legally we're legally dancing around it here because
48:16
Speaker 2: we're on television. But of course when you're in the Parliament,
48:18
Speaker 2: when you're in estimates, you've got a bit freer hand
48:21
Speaker 2: to call it what it is. Hey, poor old Broken Hill,
48:23
Speaker 2: Keith Pitt. That is what is ahead of the rest
48:26
Speaker 2: of the country if we keep going down this crazy
48:29
Speaker 2: renewable path without the proper firming backup power, isn't it, Peter?
48:36
Speaker 16: Can you imagine what to be like ten days without electricity,
48:39
Speaker 16: no hot water, no lights, no cooking, absolutely nothing in
48:43
Speaker 16: terms of security, no communications, no health systems, no medical
48:47
Speaker 16: And it's worse than that. They look at the window
48:48
Speaker 16: and see giant solar and wind factories that are at
48:51
Speaker 16: Broken Hill and they've still got no power, and they've
48:54
Speaker 16: got giant batteries and they've still got no power, and
48:57
Speaker 16: they've been filled up by diesel generators and then the
49:00
Speaker 16: still the generator from the local pharmacy and they lose
49:02
Speaker 16: all of their refrigerated stock, things like echelon. I would
49:04
Speaker 16: imagine this is what the future looks like. Under a
49:07
Speaker 16: bow on an Albanezy plan.
49:09
Speaker 7: It is a disaster.
49:10
Speaker 16: It should never happen and it's got to be stopped.
49:15
Speaker 2: James, a lot of speculation about election timing in February
49:19
Speaker 2: next year. They've got to put out those twenty thirty
49:21
Speaker 2: five emissions reduction targets. They'll go after agriculture for the
49:25
Speaker 2: first time in a big way. They'll go after transport.
49:28
Speaker 2: They have to do them unless they're in caretaker mo.
49:31
Speaker 2: They've got a March budget deficits as far as.
49:34
Speaker 4: The eye can see.
49:35
Speaker 2: They've just ramped up by a third the spending of
49:38
Speaker 2: government advertising.
49:40
Speaker 4: I reckon they're going to go early.
49:42
Speaker 2: I reckon they're going to call it Australia Day, early
49:44
Speaker 2: February for a March election.
49:46
Speaker 4: What do you think.
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Speaker 15: I'd love that to call an election today for early December,
49:54
Speaker 15: to get rid of this terrible Labor government. But I
49:56
Speaker 15: actually think you're on the money because when you look
49:58
Speaker 15: at the money that's been spent on government government advertising,
50:01
Speaker 15: it's a lesson.
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Speaker 7: Out of queens Land.
50:02
Speaker 15: What did Labor try to do here? They tried to
50:04
Speaker 15: buy the election. They did so much TV advertising and
50:07
Speaker 15: even had a standard the EKA with the Labor Party's
50:11
Speaker 15: central campaign message that was funded by the taxpayer. If
50:15
Speaker 15: you're a beating person, Chuck, I would start to look
50:18
Speaker 15: at dates in March.
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Speaker 1: Got to go.
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Speaker 2: I think you're spot on, Jas, Thank you again, well
50:24
Speaker 2: done on the weekend.
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Speaker 4: That's it for me, see tomorrow night. Here's the Bolt Report.