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🌸 RHOP Recap: "Ray and Gordon on QVC" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome and welcome in Darlings and happy Martin
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  Speaker 2: Luther King day. It's Monday, and you know, one of
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  Speaker 2: the greats, one of the all time greats. I love
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  Speaker 2: celebrating Martin Luther King Junior and thinking of all the amazing,
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  Speaker 2: incredible things that he has done for our world and
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  Speaker 2: our humanity.
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  Speaker 3: So cheers to you, Martin Luther King.
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  Speaker 1: Welcoming in, Emily Cotta and Coretta Scott King.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, and Kreta Scott King.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, because behind every great man is King.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred, one hundred. Welcoming in, Emily. How are
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  Speaker 2: you when you're Romana Blue?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Thank you. It's actually a purple, but I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Remana Blue and I'm kidding it does really no Actually
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  Speaker 4: in this lightning, I'm like loving it's Ramona Blue. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah, thank you for recording this evening on this
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  Speaker 4: Monday evening because I'm getting my trees cut back tomorrow
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  Speaker 4: and it's going to be very loud, and so I
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  Speaker 4: was worried.
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  Speaker 2: She means she's getting Yeah, she's all like Jenna Lions
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  Speaker 2: up in there. If you're watching New York you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, but you're probably nass.
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  Speaker 4: She's like, she mimics, she's so sad. Cat.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So and when I get wax, I demand to record
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  Speaker 4: live and Amy wouldn't have it.
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  Speaker 1: And so this was the compromise.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if the Darling's a Tier two level
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  Speaker 2: were ready for it. However, the tier the Tier three Darling.
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  Speaker 3: Ready.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, I understand, like it gets really really loud,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and so thank you for doing that. Also,
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  Speaker 2: I'm loving recording in the evening. And just so you darlings, No,
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  Speaker 2: you know, today I did a lot. Maddie was out
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  Speaker 2: of school and so we went. I took her to
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  Speaker 2: the climbing gym. We did like a rock wall thing.
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  Speaker 2: She was really good at it. She really likes to
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  Speaker 2: do that. So I took her there today and I
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  Speaker 2: participated a little, not a lot, And then I took
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  Speaker 2: her out for a little lunch. Then her little friend
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  Speaker 2: came over for a playdate, which which keeps you occupied,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, You think, oh, this will
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  Speaker 2: be great. They're just gonna do their own thing.
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  Speaker 3: Mommy, can we use baking soda and a bath bomb
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  Speaker 3: and mentos and coke in the sink.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, what are you doing now? You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just like one thing after another, but I want
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  Speaker 2: to be Glinda, can I wear your dress?
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  Speaker 3: This is too big? You know. It's like it's a lot,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: And it's hilarous though, so but anyway, right now, if
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  Speaker 2: you're watching this, I have like oil on my hair
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  Speaker 2: because I'm kind of have like a little treatment going on.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, are you kidding me? It's like a
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  Speaker 2: little oil treatment. It's kind of dried now, but that's
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  Speaker 2: like what's happening. And by the way, I do do
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  Speaker 2: ads for this, but this is not an official ad
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 3: But I use the way.
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  Speaker 2: Hair oil, which is what I used now, And I
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  Speaker 2: can't really use a lot of hair oil on my
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  Speaker 2: hair because my hair is so thin and fine. So
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  Speaker 2: like if I use it, it's very sparingly or I
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  Speaker 2: use it as like more of a treatment. By God,
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  Speaker 2: is it great? By God? Is like the best smelling
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  Speaker 2: thing I've smelled in so long. So way you guys
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  Speaker 2: use my code. I think it's drama. I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 2: it's drama. But anyway, you know what I'll do, I'll
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  Speaker 2: link it. I'll link it in the notes. I think
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  Speaker 2: I had lips together.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, you're gonna link it in your teeth, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: link it.
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  Speaker 3: On my tea. I think it's linked in there.
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: But we're doing Potomac today and we're just delighted to
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  Speaker 2: be talking about it this evening and Emily before we
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  Speaker 2: discuss like the actual episode the night like I guess
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  Speaker 2: Sunday night after this aired, Karen posted that she is
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  Speaker 2: not coming back.
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  Speaker 3: She has posted right after.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so she posted on her social media. And this
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  Speaker 2: is after the fact that we know that she did
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  Speaker 2: not go to the reunion. We know she did not
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  Speaker 2: show up for that. We had a feeling that might happen,
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  Speaker 2: and so let me read what she wrote. Essentially, it's
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  Speaker 2: her resignation.
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  Speaker 3: Where did you go? Oh my god?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So it says, after much thought, in reflection, I've
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  Speaker 2: made the difficult decision to step away from the Real
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  Speaker 2: Housewives of Potomac. This journey has been nothing short of extraordinary,
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  Speaker 2: filled with unforgettable moments, personal growth, and of course plenty
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  Speaker 2: of grand dam energy. I am forever grateful to my
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  Speaker 2: loyal fans, Bravo and my amazing castmates for the memories
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  Speaker 2: and support over the years. While this chapter maybe closing,
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  Speaker 2: my story is far from over. I am excited to
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  Speaker 2: focus on new opportunities, my family, and continuing to elevate
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  Speaker 2: my brand in ways that reflect my passion and purpose.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you all for your unwavering love and encouragement. The
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  Speaker 2: Grand dam is not going anywhere, just evolving. Stay fabulous
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  Speaker 2: and always remember class and grace. Never go out of style.
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  Speaker 1: Good way to leave.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good way to leave. I think it was
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  Speaker 2: the right thing to do. It's so sad though. It's
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  Speaker 2: such a bummer, you know. It's just a bummer that
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  Speaker 2: this all happened, that she was in the state that
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  Speaker 2: she was in. And I'm not talking about just for
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  Speaker 2: that one event that obviously she's had some difficulties for
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  Speaker 2: a long time, and for her mental health and for
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  Speaker 2: her well being, I think it obviously is important for
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  Speaker 2: her to pivot into a more private life. But it's
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  Speaker 2: just really disappointing, I know, because we all really love her,
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  Speaker 2: and it's also disappointing that we lost a lot of
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  Speaker 2: respect for her because of what happened. And I just
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  Speaker 2: really wish her. I wish her the best. I wish
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  Speaker 2: her well, I wish her that she has an amazing
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  Speaker 2: recovery from her struggles and can use her platform for
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  Speaker 2: that reason.
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  Speaker 1: I think she'll be back. You give her two seasons, yes,
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  Speaker 1: one thousand percent.
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  Speaker 3: So at that point, how many five dollars?
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  Speaker 1: Five dollars? Bet?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I don't know. I can't disagree with
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  Speaker 2: you there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I could see her saying it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, at that point she will have level of veneers.
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  Speaker 2: It will be a whole new set on happened the
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  Speaker 2: other shot. I'm back appreciation. So Race is okay to
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: come back?
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  Speaker 1: So some here, well, eleven seasons, eleven sets of n ears.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, every season you get an upgrade, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she'll be back. She needs a break.
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  Speaker 4: Now, one could argue Shannon Badour might need a break,
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  Speaker 4: but Shannon's in a little bit of a different situation
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  Speaker 4: in that the nine to one one tapes weren't or
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  Speaker 4: the the police bodycam footage was not released, and.
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  Speaker 3: As well as the SNS.
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  Speaker 4: Right yeah, and then also, this is like not Karen's
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  Speaker 4: first rodeo.
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  Speaker 1: I forget how.
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  Speaker 3: Many times Shannon right, well, oh wait.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah this is Shannon.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, no, I think it's Karen's like it's not like
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  Speaker 4: strike I forget how many.
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  Speaker 3: It could be three, but it might be two.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever it is, like, it makes sense to me that
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  Speaker 4: and I would argue Shannon for her health.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe could have used it too, but it's one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason why again I think Shannon got off
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  Speaker 2: Scott Freeze because we didn't see the video footage. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't her. She didn't have multiple charges on her from
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  Speaker 2: previous times, and she was so lucky to get a redemption,
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  Speaker 2: like it was like a bonus redemption. You know, it
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  Speaker 2: was like a shield on traders because she had this
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  Speaker 2: whole horrific Alexis John thing, and so everyone had no
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  Speaker 2: choice but to get her back on that.
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  Speaker 3: You just had no choice but to feel bad.
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  Speaker 2: For so then it really erased a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 2: what she did in the eye in the eyes of
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  Speaker 2: our in our eyes in terms of our judgment.
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Also she did come in and say I made a mistake,
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing the work. I'm not you know, I'm kind
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  Speaker 2: of not drinking.
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  Speaker 4: But didn't Shannon stuff happen, Like she went to the courts,
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  Speaker 4: her kind her stuff was kind of done by the
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  Speaker 4: time they were recording, whereas Karen was still trying to
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  Speaker 4: like work things out, like she couldn't necessarily say a
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  Speaker 4: lot of this if based on.
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  Speaker 1: What her defense was going to be.
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  Speaker 4: Not that I agree with what her defense might have been,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm just saying like it was there.
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  Speaker 2: Were she didn't please pretty yeah, because Karen didn't plead guilty,
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  Speaker 2: whereas Shannon I believe did right, right, And.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, god, I should know this stuff.
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: But wait, we all should know it. You know, we
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: should all know it. Oh yeah, I just double checked.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, she pleaded no contest to the hit and
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  Speaker 2: run d UI incident, which is why it was able
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  Speaker 2: to be open and close the probation thing everything. And
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  Speaker 2: Karen wanted to fight it because they probably.
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  Speaker 3: Because she had.
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  Speaker 2: She knew that what was going to happen in terms
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  Speaker 2: of sentencing could be really bad coupled with the past,
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  Speaker 2: and so they wanted to do everything they could to
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  Speaker 2: try to, you know, save her from getting time or
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  Speaker 2: any extra time or what have you. So why don't
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  Speaker 2: we go ahead and get on into Potomac. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: here comes Ashley drag king style.
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  Speaker 3: That was fun.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't really see much of Ashley except in that,
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  Speaker 2: and she was really living her best life. And it
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: was funny to me that she was like nervous. I
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  Speaker 2: thought that was really cute that she was like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it was a whole new thing for her, and she's
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  Speaker 2: pretty nervous.
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  Speaker 3: And we haven't even seen it yet. We're just there waiting, right.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: Because next week that's the finale, right I believe?
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, which is great, a great finale.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, uh yeah, I I liked a lot. I liked
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  Speaker 4: a lot of this episode and then I but I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't expecting to like the Gordon and raciness as much
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  Speaker 4: as I did.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was about as endearing and delightful
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  Speaker 2: as anything's ever been I have. We we've struck gold,
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, I, why is he so much
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  Speaker 2: more believable to me than miakay?
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: That so much more?
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: You don't disagree, Okay, he always seems so much more
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  Speaker 2: level headed than Mia. I always feel like he's being
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: gas lit by her in every scene that he's in,
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  Speaker 2: and I never see well, obviously, we're never seeing him
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  Speaker 2: in a manic phase because she's thank god, she's at
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  Speaker 2: least respectable enough to not show him in that state.
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  Speaker 3: But he seems like a great guy.
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  Speaker 4: I mean see, this is where like I was really
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  Speaker 4: disappointed in Karen and Giselle at the end of the
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  Speaker 4: episode because I love Giselle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like it really is unwatch.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that Gordon comes off well in these scenes,
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  Speaker 4: but we're only seeing yeah, I mean, five minutes of
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  Speaker 4: him for the whole year, versus MIA's in a million scenes,
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  Speaker 4: and like there is a reason Gordon's entire family isn't
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  Speaker 4: speaking to him, Like there is a reason that he
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  Speaker 4: is completely alienated and they have left him with zero dimes.
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  Speaker 1: It's all on.
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  Speaker 3: Mia, Okay, I'm thank you.
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  Speaker 1: And we have seen scenes with Gordon where he is
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  Speaker 1: co signing what Mia is saying, like, yes, I did,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's not denying headlock.
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's for oh god, I see.
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  Speaker 2: I hate when I don't when these things don't come
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  Speaker 2: into my head immediately.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah on but like but no, I'm just saying, like
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  Speaker 4: I don't I want as much as I enjoy Gordon
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  Speaker 4: and Ray, I believe Mia, and I've also believe that.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's a confusing time. But even in that moment
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  Speaker 4: of him speaking with Ray, I was like, Gordon, we
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  Speaker 4: saw you in the kitchen saying talking through the ink separation,
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  Speaker 4: and sometimes.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: You are okay with it. We've watched that, and then
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you are not okay with it, and we have
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  Speaker 1: watched that. So I'm like, it is really confusing. But Gordon.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't coming off as an asshole, and that's also confusing
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  Speaker 4: as a viewer.
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  Speaker 2: That's the most confusing part. And not just an asshole,
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  Speaker 2: but just downright charming. I mean when he and Rae
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  Speaker 2: were like, you know, putting peach cobbler, I was like.
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  Speaker 3: These two you know, the high fived, they high fived.
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  Speaker 3: He was a great scene.
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  Speaker 2: It was such a lovely like Sunday evening, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just cozy up around the television set kids and let's
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  Speaker 2: just watch these two men talk.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, but like first twenty minute or twenty seconds
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  Speaker 4: of that solid without edit was just weather talk. It
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  Speaker 4: was just about the weather, you know, and had times
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  Speaker 4: when it's hotter and when it's not.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it was you know, it was maybe they
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  Speaker 2: talked about their shirts, like how they fit, how hard
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  Speaker 2: it is to get the right fitting shirt, you know
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  Speaker 2: all that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm bummed that they cut.
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  Speaker 2: I want to see all the footage on the floor
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  Speaker 2: that they cut and kudos to Ray, who is the
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Barbara Walters Potomac. I mean he was asking every single
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  Speaker 2: question and follow up that I would want to know
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  Speaker 2: and and didn't let it slide because whatever Gordon would say,
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  Speaker 2: he would follow follow it up with, oh, but okay,
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  Speaker 2: so you took a pre you know, the test, the
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  Speaker 2: parenting what is it called paternity thank you?
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  Speaker 3: Paternity test?
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  Speaker 1: He was paternity test.
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  Speaker 3: He was paternity tested. He was paternity test.
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  Speaker 2: And then he like kind of rambled and didn't really
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  Speaker 2: say and so Ray He's like, so who is the parent?
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  Speaker 3: You know? I am okay?
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  Speaker 2: And then just every follow up that Ray did was great,
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  Speaker 2: you know, certainly trying to help him with the when
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  Speaker 2: Gordon was saying basically trying to explain his side of
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: what happened when they were in uh Panama, and of
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: course Ray was like, so I heard that you know
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  Speaker 2: something happened, did you like go pick up.
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  Speaker 3: The kids or what have you?
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  Speaker 2: You know, this was it was confusing, but he made
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  Speaker 2: it sound good. So it sounds like he's painting the
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  Speaker 2: picture that he was worried that Ink was going to
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  Speaker 2: be around, and he was worried that Ink would go
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  Speaker 2: and take the kids and maybe more specifically Jeremiah, and
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: so because of that, he moved the kids to a
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  Speaker 2: safer place. Very odd considering that Ink is in Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: and is not there.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, I wasn't it all is odd it.
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  Speaker 4: I was glad that on national television Gordon had a
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  Speaker 4: chance to say what his side of that story was.
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  Speaker 4: I think that was fair. I'm still not totally buying it,
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  Speaker 4: and honestly, I'm not totally buying the paternity test.
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually not by Mia and Gordon, you know, full stop.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of confusion in between the two of them.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know who I believe Regardles, because I
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  Speaker 2: don't really know. I don't necessarily believe Mia either, But
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  Speaker 2: I do believe her that about all the things that
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: she said about, if you know, whether they're the locking,
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  Speaker 2: taking the money out of her account.
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  Speaker 3: Putting her in her account, draining her.
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  Speaker 2: Like all those really abusive type of things, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I absolutely do believe her on that. And then I
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  Speaker 2: believe Gordon and that she must have been stepping out
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: here and there and that must have been difficult still
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: being married, and that just is weird. Why not just
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: get divorced, But then you also have Mia maybe not
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: being as straightforward about some of the things when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to ink in general.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know one divorced couple in any situation were
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  Speaker 4: the first year of whatever the separation was, it would
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  Speaker 4: it didn't look.
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  Speaker 1: Completely bonkers, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Where there was moments where I was like wait what,
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  Speaker 4: and not even that they were getting back together. It's
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: just that maybe they're co parenting in a way that
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: like looks like nothing I would choose to do or
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: nothing I thought they would ever do. And so we
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: are seeing that in real time with those two.
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  Speaker 1: So but I get that, like.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: If you're Gizelle and you're asked to fully support, like
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: you know, I just think about the healing and a
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: thriving event and the love event where me as like
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: having a another roundtable about stuff and just I was
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: like what, I don't I don't care, like, just do
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: your thing. But I guess from the outside, I'm like, yeah,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: divorce looks insane.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I don't care who you are.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: It just and it's not it just it's totally normal
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: to look like chaotic.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I guess your life's out of control at that point
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: and especially if you have kids. And so yeah, but
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: when the thing that I got also out of Ray,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the Ray and Gordon conversation, but Gordon specifically is that
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I think that in his world, he doesn't want to
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: get divorced, so he's suggesting post marital counseling, and he's
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: suggesting that they stay together until somebody wants to get
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: married again. So that's his suggestion. That doesn't mean that
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: that's what they agreed upon, so.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Right, and we've seen him suggest that to MEA's face.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: So when when Karen like believes it hook line and
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: sinker and just starts this telephone, it seemed like she
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: was doing it out of being desperate to get the
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: cameras again off of her for the sake of the
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: dui stuff, which was such a bad move on her part,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: because when you go full throttle at somebody, what do
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: you think they're going to bring up at first? You know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: for the first second, let's talk about your dui, let's
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: talk about how you crash, let's talk about all this stuff.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Well, what the hell was Ray talking about with Gordon
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: where he's like, yeah, Gart, that kid, our kid isn't
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: mine or something like that.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: I was like the blue eye array thing.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, with when Karen's like, yeah, just so you know,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: it runs in my family, and right He's like, no,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: it doesn't.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: It was like, oh my god, is that not their kid?
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I mean no, I know, I think yeah, he was
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: probably joking about.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: But then you got the whole mister blue eye thing
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: when Karen is being seen with this mister blue eye.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: It was a little convoluted, and I got the point,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I guess, but very.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Weirdly, I thought that was very uncool. Array.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Oh you did well.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: He basically threw Karen under the bus, like I don't
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: know what's going on with that, but like if I'm
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: also their kid, I'm gonna be like, ah, dad, are
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: you saying that you're not my dad?
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Wait, you're okay. I misunderstood then what he was joking about.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: He was basically saying that.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: His kids aren't one of his kids might not be
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: one of his kids.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I've been there.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: You know, when Karen had the baby and said, just
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: so you know, it might have like blue or gray eyes,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: they run in my family, and raised like, no, they
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: don't like and so I know what it's like.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: And I was like, WHOA, So.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, are these rumors true?
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I mean because when Mia says you, you know, you
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: open your legs to every man who like brings you
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: a D, which was such a fun way to put it,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: you know, it's like bring me a D.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: But like, are these rumors true?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, according to you know, yes, she's honestly.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: We never that, but I've never given it any real
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: consideration until tonight, Like I always thought it was just
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: such bullshit.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, because nobody's ever like said yeah.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, like Giselle's like, yeah, yeah, we all know
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: she fucks around. Everybody knows that shoe's fast, go back
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: to sleep. What the real headline here is?
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: You know me? And I'm like.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: What, no, I know? And then Giselle did it again
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: with Karen because she was like, oh, good one, Mia,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, bring up something that we all already.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Know he's not talking about.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's so funny to me. It's like, no, actually,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: that's a really big deal and extremely fair to bring
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: up when Karen's trying to explode her world. When they're
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: like answer to us, it was I didn't realize they
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: were looking to bring her down by the end of
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: the season so hard. But it seemed like a planned
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: event between Gizelle and Karen, almost like now's the time,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: let's do the takedown of Mia. This whole season has
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: been about her. Let's go take her down. Are you
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: lying about this? Are you lying about that? Did you say?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: And where were you the night of the twenty? I mean,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: it was really like so many questions right at her.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: She didn't even get a chance to explain.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I did not like it because they're really just taking
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Gordon's word for it. And then it's it's like Gizelle,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: you know, with Candace's husband. I believe Gizelle on that
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: whole thing that went down, like however it went down.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: But I'm like, Gizelle, like Mia has told you just
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think I thought it was just
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: a really bad look all around because they haven't seen
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: what the audience has seen, and now they're gonna go
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: so hard in for Gordon based on Ray's conversation, which
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: by the way, I'm pretty sure Ray was half asleep
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: for and so then like he's gonna and when he's
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: telling Karen, I'm like, well, he already messed up two details, right,
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: there when he was telling the story and they're going
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: hard in on Mia based on that and not believe.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I was just like, this is.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: There is way more of the story, because I do
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: think Mia has one upper sleeve in terms of not
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: showing us the whole hand, and Giselle knows that and
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Karen knows that, and I think there's something way more
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: to it because I get that vibe.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, think about even just she even.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Just them going to Panama and then being like, yeah,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I think I'm going to go to Atlanta to see
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, my son is there. You know, It's a
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: weird thing to do. And then when Gordon says that
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: he had the kids for like twenty five days in
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: June and she had them for five and they asked
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: her about that, you know, I would really like to
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: hear what that was all about. I mean, was there
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: an emergency that she had to go to and she
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: had to be out of town? Was she shooting, you
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: know for the show like I or is that just
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: a straight up an exaggeration or an utter lie?
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: And on part of Gordon, what are we dealing with here?
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't I or is it just
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: an exaggeration of like maybe he had a he was
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: in charge of the kids for like four hours twenty
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: five days in a row or all day while she
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: was working, but she was around at night and in town,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Like I don't, who know.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: How is he counting that up?
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: I will say, like, I know this is controversial, but
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: especially after we've seen Gordon be so sweet, But I
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: do think that I believe Mia. I don't.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I guess, like what, especially with the kids and stuff.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: I do think that she's I get it, but I
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: believe Mia.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: I by the way, I don't think any.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Of them are going to be Parent of the Year.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I'm just putting that off too. I'm not saying like,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: but I'm just yeah.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Right, when Mia says that she, you know, had full custody,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: and she told that to Karen, and then we had that,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: you know comment from Gordon, that doesn't necessarily mean that
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: she doesn't have full custody.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: She could have been just watching.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Them, you know.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: And then it is interesting because Ray was like, yeah,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: she doesn't. That can't be right. She can't have full
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: custody unless a judge said that. It's like, well, yeah,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: of course, I mean, isn't that how it works. The
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: judge had to have said it, So I'm very curious
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: to see what the custody situation is.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: If she is.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Truly has full custody, then it wouldn't make sense if
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: that's true. What Gordon was saying about the kids being
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: with him that often.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Well, you can have full custody and the other parent
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: is still the custodial parent. And if you as the
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: one with full custody, or like, take the kids for
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: thirty days and that's what you agree to, Yeah, then
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: for that thirty days.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Well, Karen, after that scene with Ray, after Ray was
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: spilling the tea, she was like in her confessional, this
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: is ridiculous. She's making people pray over you and worry
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: about you, and you're not. I'm gonna from the truth.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: You're a fire. And she's just getting amped up. And
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking that's where I go back to. She knows something,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Hernasel knows something more than what we know, but we
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: can only judge on what we see, and that's kind
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: of like what we have to go with. But so, well,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: why don't we while we're at it, talk about Stacy
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: with the attorney because I'm like, my god, are you
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: putting this on?
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Or like is this real?
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: When she said the attorney's face had pure terror on it.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: When like, as she kept talking, I actually back and
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: watched the attorneys. The attorney's face never changed. That's just
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Stacy projecting some bullshit. Because Stacy, she's not dumb, but
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: like she really likes to. She likes to like she's
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: gonna be crushed under her halo because she wants to
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: be like this martyr perfect, like I just didn't know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: poor me, like I just wanted everybody to be happy,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: and like people are screaming red flag at her, and
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: she's like, but he's such a good guy, Like now I.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Know him so well. I know my husband would always
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: do the right thing.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: But didn't you just leave like an appointment with him
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: with the mediator who said that he has all the
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: stuff that you didn't know about and he was doing
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: things with money that you didn't know about, and you
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: know it is crazy. When the attorney made the example, well,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you really still want to get alimony
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: and you want that in writing, why wouldn't you do
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the same thing for child support? Don't you want the
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: same for your daughter. I thought, ooh, yikes. I mean,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: that's a really good point.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: She she's willing to see half of it, which is
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: that if he does change, I want to make sure
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: he may not want to give me money anymore, but
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: he would never do that to our daughter. And I
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: really respect the return the attorney for saying, you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: people change, because it might he might, you know, get
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: under the influence of someone else who's convincing him to
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: do something otherwise, and now he turns into a totally
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: different person with new priorities and now his daughters, you know, fifteen,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: and she can get a job, so forget it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: And I thought that's really smart.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And like, I mean, I know, you can go
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: back and fight these things back after the fact, but
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: it's so expensive to try to like undo these agreements.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: And she's like, I'm not going to ask for anything
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: like any child support, right, I mean why?
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, And now watching her through this TJ thing,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: it's like, Sacy, you got to start listening with somebody,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know who it's gonna be.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: But that's a goowpoint.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: She's on an island of her own and she's just
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: like I'm fine over here. I know what it's like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: and I will. I will leave this island and come
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: to you, TJ when I'm ready. And I know that
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: my ex husband is over there on that island. He's
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: totally fine.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I know how he is.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Even though I'm completely over here. She is just not
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: making great decisions and it's I don't want to see
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: her burned. But it really was eye opening to see
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: TJ just blow the roof off of it and be like,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I can't no more of this charade. I love you,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Like can I come over?
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: You know? Yeah?
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: But I mean it's like it's TJ like, no, no,
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: you can't.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: No, you can't come over to dry Oh my gosh.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is She's not in the end,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: She's not gonna end up with him, and she will.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: She is a transitional relationship for her.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: This is where I say Stacey is not dumb because
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: she is smart enough to keep boundaries up and protect
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: her kid and herself even though smart yeah, even though
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: she's in this relationship, and even if it's like a
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: subconscious move she's making to keep that boundary like I'm so,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I feel comfortable with her love.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: That she does that with Ariela. I mean, you don't
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: see that enough. I mean you well, yeah, the same
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: cast not enough, And I am very.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Happy that she's doing that.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I do feel like, you know, unfortunately TJ is gonna
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: get in his heart handed back to him in the end.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Now he what if she doesn't re up with Potomac?
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: You mean, because that's the only reason he's here is
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: for exposure.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: Because here's the other.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Thing, like I'm hearing is a lot of Hey, Stacy,
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: you change your whole life and everything you've been trying
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: to do so that I might hook up with you.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, there was no you know, like and if
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: he's not, I just think he's using her in this
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: platform and they're going to be best friends when he's
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: all that's his ever, that's his sope.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the narrative was always you know, him keeping her
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: at bay, but that's that shifted in this episode by
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: him saying I will wait for you, and you know,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: he basically is like, I'm done with this friendship thing.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Tell people that were dating, tell your husband that we're dating.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: So he actually said it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: He said it it.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't believe it, I know, but at least
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: he's trying to say, all right, it's stupid that we
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: continue with the charade and not discuss this openly with people.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: This is ridiculous, like everybody knows. All right, before we
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: continue on, I'm going to take a quick break. Let's
• 33:20
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• 33:24
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• 35:32
  Speaker 2: are back with the Real Housewives of Potomac. So we're
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: talking about TJ and Stacy. He's like, okay, well, well
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: she goes something very big is happening. My husband is
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: actually moving out of the family home. And then he's like, oh,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: this is great.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Can I come over?
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: No?
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: No, I can't.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I am not ready. And this is where it's like,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: she says she's mourning the person who she used to be.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I totally get it, and she's not sure on her
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: feet and that's jarring for her. And then in the
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: end she's like, let's be best friends and see where
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: it goes. I mean, it's just a it's just so weird.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I think that they're just dancing with the devil. You know,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: it's tough to watch these types of relationships happen when
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: someone else is coming out of a relationship. He's like,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: wanted to get with her to begin with because of QBC.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just okay, he sees an opening and it's
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: not for a relationship. It's it's I think he's using
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: her for access to things he does not have.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I wonder what TJ's dream actually is, Emily, have you
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: ever thought about that? Have you ever thought about Yeah?
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think there's anything real with TJ. No,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: we will ever know.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I would like to see him on QBC and
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: then I'll judge. I need to see him selling a
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: dice in. Here are my standards, a dice in. I
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: want to also see some sort of fashion, men's fashion,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: like maybe a shoe, maybe a loafer, but a smart loafer. Okay,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I want to Emily's. Your face is so disgusted. You
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: look like the guy the designer who wants to America
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Jaane's house. Okay, yeah, I'm free or whatever it is.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I hold on, let me give you a third one.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: We have vacuum, we have a smart shoe, a men's shoe.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: And thirdly, something that's a little more whimsical, something kitchen
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: me something like an amazing, the miraculous wine opener that
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: also is a massager.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: I will be thinking of when he's holding that dice in,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: that men's loafer and that massage er. I'll be thinking
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: of him drinking Ecto cooler out of a wine glass,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: slurping it. I will think of him telling Stacy that,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: like checking her at that party to be like, oh
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: you you're whatever he said, like you're going to hear it,
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: get it lately, like yell at her?
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: What did he do? It was gross?
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Ye?
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, one day, and then I'll also think of
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: him at the gym being grossed out by her when
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: she was just trying to have normal, like couple affection
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: and he's like, whoa, That's what I'll be thinking of
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: when he's on QBC, and therefore I've prejudged and I
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: don't care about him on KBC.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, I hear that, but I would love to see it.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: I would love to see his audition tape and.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Me, oh yeah, I'll watch that all day.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Oh I'm just having some fun, you know me. I'm
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: just I'm just I'm just getting you put some more
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: hair oil in. It's so good watch this. Let's see here.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do a little oil treatment.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, you don't deserve it after what you just
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: did to my blood pressure.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: A QBC personality, you have to be like born to
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: do that, you know what I mean. It's a special
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: kind of person.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I think it can be trained.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, it can be trained, but like.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, let me at it. I get what you're saying.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: There are people that are much better than others, and
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: the people that are really good seem like a naturally Yeah.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Well it's like any kind Okay, So singing, you can
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: be trained in singing. You can be trained in acting,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean that you have it.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: You know, we gotta get on.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: There is Ray and Gordon Sell. They need to smell
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: a smart loafer.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: They need it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: And mermaid tales they'd be like I wanted to fuck
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: one of these at my pool in the backyard.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: My wife was there. That's how good it looked.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Tell you what I've been there. I've been there one time.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: It was a green mermaid tail and that was I
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: was just that it was great. But it's green, and
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I mean I was like blue blue and green gray.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Kirna, who I you know, have the opposite problem
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: with all some of the times I will speed up
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: on peacock as I told, like, have you ever done
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: that with your cookies?
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: No?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know any I don't know where this is
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: going now at all.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, now cookies on your computer?
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you know how it's like erase cookies you
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: do you know you don't want to allow websites to
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: get you, you know, you don't want them to be
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: on your cookies. You can I didn't know there was
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: a whole cookie world. And you can go to a
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: cookies like website, like an app website, but it's cookies,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: and you can install certain cookies that are actually utilities.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: For example, there is for example, a very beautiful beautiful
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: usually is one that is for Peacock, and it allows
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: you to have the speed player, so you can speed
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: it up or slow it down, because it doesn't automatically
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: come with that, but Netflix does. So if you want
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: to watch something on a higher speed to get through
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: it quicker, you can do that. So my point being
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: is with Kirna, I don't speed it up. I need
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: to slow it down so I can hear what she's saying,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: because she's the fastest talker and so funny like so anyway,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: but I didn't do that, but I was able to
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: understand she said it very quickly. But her and grag
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: had a really first reliant arment. Again, the first argment
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: gragnond I was a really a group of RD so
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: I just feel bad for her because here we have
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: a big insight to who Greg is and what he
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: signed up for, and now things are going left because
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: it's one thing for her to be a career woman
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: and have her own beauty salon, you know, spa, and
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: it's another for her to like actually now be famous.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Like isn't it interesting how some people are like, no,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to be famous or on television.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: You'd think that everyone would be like fanning the flames,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: but it's really not what everybody wants.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: He wants a quiet life and he wants to be
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: home cooking.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I know. I The thing is like I like Greg.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Well have you've scene that they filmed together? I really
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: like him.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: I need to see him on QBC and then oh
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: my god, actually.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: He could be great. He would be great. He would
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: be so sincere.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: But yeah, Kida seems very upset.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: This was like their first big argument and they've been
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: together for a couple of years.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Well, and remember, like I don't think I can recall
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: this ever happening, but on camera they mentioned the show.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: He said did the show split them up?
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Or something like that?
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's also like his line
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: of work where he's not wanting to be at the
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: face of something on TV because he's having to work
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: with people in really vulnerable situations. But yeah, I really
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: like him and I liked them even though like there's
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: a little friction.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I just liked them.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: I hope.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, me too. I just wonder, now is that
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: going to change?
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I think so, don't you.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have that feeling. And it's going to be
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: like because Kirna is here to stay. I mean, she's
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: so solid. I feel like she'll be here for five
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: seasons at least. I really feel that, you know, at least,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: if not, you know, till the end or whatever.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: But she.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: We're going to be looking back on this in.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: A few seasons to Greg and like she was in
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: that kitchen with his like Bachelor Black Dishes, and then
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be her like in another relationship. That's gonna
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: be like, I don't know, he's completely different than Greg.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Like he's a businessman. He's he's like a mover and
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: you know, and a shooter or a mover whatever.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: And and we're gonna go back to Greg, who's like
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: and she's wearing his outfit, like the shirt from his
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: you know clinic.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, took you guys there. You can see. But you're right,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: they're not gonna end up together.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: I hate to say it.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but and she shouldn't.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Like if this is what she wants in terms of
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Potomac, and that's part of who
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: she is that you know, and she has it, she's
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: gonna choose that over him.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Sorry, yes, okay, few.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, and should I mean, I like Greg, but like.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: He's clearly yeah, she clearly.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Signed up for something that she wants, and it really
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Greg was I think plan B. Unfortunately, oh god, you
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: said it.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: You said it, and I you said.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think she knows that.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: I think she really likes Greg, But I think that's
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: really what she was looking for a lot of big
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: changes in her life, and she signed up for all
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: of them. And I think she likes being on the
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: show and having her own life and her own business
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: and her name, Like I didn't change my name, so
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: I can totally.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: There's that same thing. I'm so glad you brought it up.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: He doesn't even he doesn't even want to hyphen So.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a lot to put that on somebody.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: It is I think it is now, you know, I mean.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, and maybe maybe that's something that they'll
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: work through eventually.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: But and a lot of people do have it, I mean,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: because everyone has their opinions, so this is a very
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: common argument.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Probably what did you say yours is hyphened?
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: No?
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Sorry, my god? Straight up? What?
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Straight up?
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Straight up?
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Your name?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Jesus?
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I know, I'm just, I mean.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: I know, I just And no disrespect any hyphens. I'm
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: just saying, welcome to fucking QVC.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: That's my intro. I'm not selling hyphens. Are you saying.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Are you saying that you really look look down on
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: hyphens in the sense that.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, disrespect to anybody that.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: Did it, No, but like you wouldn't want that for you,
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: for me personally.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: But then it's like I also totally respect, but.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: I want you to did al want my hyphen is
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: never even a thing?
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, I get, I get it's a.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Whole thing, and it's so personal and having to change
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: your name whatever you want.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: To do, like, just do it.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Okay. The wind is whipping up over there, Hurricane Emily.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: She is dinner. It is dinner time.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, wait, hold on, one more thing about that, because
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I'd like to share my story.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: Oh yes, please, can I share?
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Hold on? And where is my.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, announcement? Announcement?
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: Hi, what about me?
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: My name is Amy Phillips. When I got married to
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Brett Ganel, I did not take his name girl. And
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: then I was like, I'll take it later, but like,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna change it right now because.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: That is such champaigne. I'd like, hell God, and then
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: it's curtains for me, Emily's playing curtains and scene.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: And then you guys.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, I mean I'll change it later. Okay.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: So then, oh God, why am I in slow motion
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: right now? What I did was I eventually, several years later,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I did change my name to Amy Phillips Ganell. It's
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: not hyphened. I made Phillips my middle name, and I
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: made Ganell my last name. And my middle name, which
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: is Madeline, is just floating out there in some way.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: And you know what, at the end of the day,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: my name is written all different kinds of ways, in
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: every type of way, and that's that. But it is
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: such a pain in the ass to change your name,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: and when you are known as a professional in your
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: field as that, it's difficult. You've established your career, so
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: changing your name is difficult. So but a lot of
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: it was like, I'm just going to make sure I
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: have Ganell at the end of my name anyway, for
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: the sake of my daughter, so that it's like you
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: can just see that we're connected in that way, you
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, I guess. But when I didn't
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: do it, Brett's joke was hilarious because he did not
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: carry respected whatever and someone would say something like does
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: she do you have his last name? And he's like,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: doesn't want it, doesn't want it.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: It's really funny now, but I get it, Like I
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: get that, like for somebody that thinks like that their
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: last name is the bloodline and they have the responsibility
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: of carrying it and all that I'm speaking on behalf of.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Jeff in that situation with Kierna, I understand it. Like, so,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: what's his name? Greg? I'm wasted, That's the other thing
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I got. I drink a lot of scotch.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh ship, who's no, You're right, Jeff, I'm
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: really attached to this guy.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: Amy doesn't know anything about the housewives, Emily said Jeff,
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: and she went right along with it.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: Okay, well I get it.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: It's just we both got our side absolutely.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Cool. So I think we talked about everything. I mean, wait,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: here's what I wanted to.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Really just investigate for hot sec is that at the
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: very end when they're like cash me outside, basically they
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: go out there and then MIAs like, talk about your drinking,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: your guys. You know, every man that opens up is
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: d to you. And then Karen's like.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: You watch your kids for five days and he did
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: a whole month? Is that true?
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: And She's like lies. And then Karen's like he said
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: when he got to Karas she didn't want and just
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: shut up actions to him, and she's like lies. And
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: then Karen said, Andrew Returnity just touched. And then Jizzy's
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: like yeah, and it's been in question for a whole year.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: And then Jacqueline says it was a whole kit.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: So is she referring?
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: And Jizzie's like, oh, you knew, so is Jacqueline's home kit.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: So's she gonna allege that that that's not like valid
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: because it's just a kit you can get and the
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: accuracy is only you know, seventy five percent.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Is that what she's gonna try and say?
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I mean I would.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: I just don't trust Gordon on this. I think Gordon
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: is capable of more than his sweetness might indicate. And
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: I think, like, yeah, get something that's sanctioned that both
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: parties understand what's going on. Like he also did the
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: thing that was behind me is back, And I don't
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: know if Mia did that to him. I don't know,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: but I think, like, get something where you both are
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: understanding that there's nothing, there's no tricks involved, Like this
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: is what it.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Is, right right, right, right right, pretty explosive ending, I
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: will say. And I'm really looking forward to seeing how
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: this ends. I heard that the reunion was really good.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: You know, Karen's ozepic thing.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Came out in this episode because Kierena is the one
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: who like put it on blast and Karen was like, well,
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Like I've been feeling bad
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: for her.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: She can't eat, she can't sleep, probably yeah, just putting
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: shots in her butt, but like and she admitted to it.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I mean it was it's semi gluetide it's the same
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: thing essentially, So what she's saying is, well, yes, I did.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, of course I'm pretty diabetic.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: And I mean and that was the perfect Karen response.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: It really was.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: With Giselle, she keeps getting these situations where she goes
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: hard for somebody and then realizes like, no, it's I know,
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: it's intentional in a.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Totally different way, but well, I mean that goes back
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: to the Mia thing too.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: With Gizelle is like she was so bummed because at
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: the Love event they huddled up and had that moment
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: where they're listening to Mia, and then a couple hours
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: later she's posting.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: On Instagram with Gordon and Ink and the kids. And
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: that's why it's so confusing.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: And I wanted to say to her at out on
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: that patio, Hey, Karen and Gizelle, both of you saw
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: with your own eyes, like in real time.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: After that, they're all.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: Hanging out like so even whatever Gordon is saying is
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: also contradicting what is being presented.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always sad when you know. Also cast members
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: just really don't think the best of you. But and
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: that's what's sababvious to us. But as I mentioned, I
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: think that there's way more that Karen and Giselle know
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: that's off camera that maybe she's not being truthful about,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: which is you know, is too much for me to
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: handle in my brain because I can't really get there.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like, okay, clearly Karen has got a lot
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: of shit going on off camera that Giselle is just
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: like hydroplating over in terms of like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: all her stuff on the side, Oh yeah, like hilarious.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, like that's on the side.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's on the side. That's a side thing.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Oh really, it's not completely consuming her life and her
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: career and her marriage. So oh and then I do
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: want to say that we were at the container store,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: and that's worth a engine because that's just a lovely,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: lovely place to be.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Yes, And with those flashbacks of Giselle when she was
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: a kid, man, she looks like your daughter's I just
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: never would have thought.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: That, I mean totally, and their daughter when she was
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: talking about college was like a mini me of Gizelle.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, it's happening. The evolution
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: is happening. She's turning her mother full on. I mean,
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: it was wild so cute.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, all right, Well.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: I think that's it for this EPP.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: What a fun romp. Thanks for listening to us. Just
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: zig and zag and have a good time. Don't forget
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Darling's listening to this on the Public. That Traders is
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: over on the Patreon if you want that, it's already up.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: And then of course we have Beverly Hills on Patrion
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: tomorrow as well as Southern Charm on Friday, and then
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: we're back on the Public on Thursday with Salt Lake City.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, sold on SLC is over on Patreon.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: There's so much to cover. There's probably more, Oh New
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: York too, so Emily, thank you so much for being here.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Oh and follow please follow over at Instagram. It's Drama
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Dollar Darwin, Darling Show Black. Thanks so much for everything.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Don't forget to plug that Instagram.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: If you don't know my idea, you know what. I
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: need to see you on QBC because.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to question it, ripping heads off.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: Buy the shit drama the pphens.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I have a gift Drama Darling