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1 HUGE reason for optimism with Bears offense (not named Caleb Williams or Ben Johnson) · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Wendy city podcast, present about fanside it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That man right there is Alex Shapiro, I am Kenneth Davis, and we talk bears in a fail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But of course, we're centered around the beloved and that is the bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And speaking of beloved, something is beloved by a lot of people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't say most, but I think it's most, but I'll be nice and say a lot is money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know who got a lot, a lot of money?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bears, right, talkly, down there, right, got paid, paid, paid, paid, a hundred and sixteen million dollars, 93 included, y'all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, that, that, that, that 93, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that
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[SPEAKER_01]: a creep, don't get fully great care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: T contracts for the most part.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Sean Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And um, but when you used to see these contracts, like let's just hypothetically say this was like 10 years ago, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and of course the big number would be lower because it always increases, but don't know right what it got in like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: $80 million and it would have been like 45 mil guarantee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to see that, basically, majority of his money is guaranteed, that makes you feel good for the type of effort and suffering physically that these gentlemen have to go through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, they're paid a lot, their bodies get wrecked, then their brains get wrecked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just be fully honest about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Donna right got paid Alex, how do you feel about them paying Donna right early and I know you're getting to why they paid them early, but how do you feel about the Donna right contract?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just a slam dunk to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not worried about the guaranteed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not worried about the money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not my money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I do care about is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you have a right tackle who last season, played at the level that you expected when you drafted him, 10 overall, or nine overall, whatever it was when they drafted him in 2023.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He played at that level and you are expecting now that he's gonna play at that level for you for a long, long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams and this offense and making sure this offense goes is everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ben Johnson and offensive coach is is run in the show here right we know the run game is important we know that Darnell right is a mall are in the run game if you get behind him you get him moving in space he's going to clear some space for you
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't gotta worry about the right side because Darnell Wright is incredible at recovery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he gets beat, he's got a knack for getting back and kind of be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, nothing to see here, we're all good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can correct himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has really developed, he's really developed, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know he's gonna be linked to Jalen Carter, his whole career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when he was drafted, we talked about this ad nauseam.
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[SPEAKER_00]: about yes, the bears need a three-sec, but man, they also need tackles, they also need tackles and keeping the quarterback upright is huge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the fact that you, you, to me, like you just don't have to worry about right tackle now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously injuries and health are an enormous X factor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to worry about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, injuries aside, I don't have to worry about right tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a phenomenal thing for a football team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially when left tackle is a question mark.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When left tackle is a question mark, you just be like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just...
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[SPEAKER_00]: go over here by Darnell or things are all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Things are real, real nice, no problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it helps cover up that left side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just a really big fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were big fans of Darnell, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: When he was drafted, way back in the day, when Josh Schrock put us on Darnell, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Before anybody else, way back in the day, we got on board.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the realization
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[SPEAKER_00]: of a development plan that worked, of a draft plan that worked, which hasn't happened very much in Chicago with first-round picks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it simply hasn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, think of how many guys have not gotten a second contract with the Chicago Bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you got a guy at a premium position, you developed him, he's playing at an unbelievably high level reward him with the contract, keep him here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a slam dunk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: what last bear to first round pick to get sent to a second day was calfolar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that I believe I'm correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the last bear was the last bear to sign the second contract was because they got a Mitch first one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mitch didn't just and didn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we could then let's not forget we didn't have first round picks because we'll back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with the crazy parts and just in fields they also miss a first run big because of your right you're right this is a crazy part too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you think about the fact that they almost got rid of cow fuller.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The transition tag the transition tag stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a big fangeo had to put fire in that young man because he was never been back here probably so to think about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now you get Daniel Wright being a bear to get his second.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, that 93 million I believe is the highest guarantee money for tackle that in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: God bless him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get your money, Daniel Wright.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, get you, get your breath, get paid totally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, the money has to start going somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've spoken last episode of the importance of the offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is early, but if you wait, that 93 million
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you were like taking a wait and see approach from last year and now they got to believe in them because I probably would have waited I'm the out of the show but if you waiting here the price goes up the price goes up every year I could have threw five more on it just to make sure I was right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, just I make sure he again, this is my thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How many years?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's been a league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm and again, I believe I'm correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He been the league three years, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a 2026 season, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is this fourth season, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Added old three is only one of those years has he been a proble or even questioned is this part of being a proble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I get first year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shake, shaky players all around you 24 set.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, you did not have a guard that was going to sit there and do what you need to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and that's something I, you know, let me add that to your question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't see here and talk about the benefit of Joe threw me a left guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I talk about the fact that during Daniel Wright's career, we said on here, he was the best offensive linemen they had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he and he wasn't he was he was a slightly above average if that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So imagine that and then there's nothing alongside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe I'm being too harsh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to pick up out it because he didn't have anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He definitely didn't have a pro bowler or a hall of fame or someone to help him and show guide him into like this is how you do it if you want to get to this level and that's the benefit of having, let's not, also at this last year you all said you're dominant this is another guy that was a north star to point and show you how to get to the bread.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Regardless of anything feels about your dominant, you can at least say he can show you
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me show you how to get to the second.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I try slow?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what, like Jonah Jackson is expected to be here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got two more years on his deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, you know, you're keeping those guys connected and who knows, maybe Jonah Jackson gets a contract extension after this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he plays well again, I don't see why you wouldn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, yeah, consistency man, that stuff matters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And having Jonah Jackson next to him matters, like that helps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That helps, like I realize this potential.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dan Rochard, lighten a fire under him, Dan Rochard in the Presby and like you know, Darnell's got to be a little bit more consistent consistent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also, again, he has more to work with in Dan Rochard, but I can see the growth in the players under him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And one thing that I didn't, I meant to say this last episode is for enough for God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a bouquet to the defense of backfield.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen what Al Harris can do with his guys, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the cult like the Catholic, y'all know him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm team Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but his instructors underneath him seem to be instructing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That hasn't always been the deal here in my opinion, with coaches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like the staff is a great staff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you see their work with players growth development.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I want to say that about our heroes, but you can see that in damn Rochard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I want to say this, I do want to put on my GM cap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the Kansas way too early draft discussions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They need to go and get them a guard next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even the top four and the top four rounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I want that guy to know who, I don't want that guy to know Joe Thuny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He may not be starting to replace Joe Thuny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He may be, somebody may go down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be a Jonah thinners, but I take advantage right now of having Joe Thuny on your team and get as many young guys, a young offensive lineman around him as you possibly can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the competition for Luke Newman, when he got the issue for Jordan, he'd take advantage of it, take advantage of it, and you're right, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because again, you could see it, you like, we're on a show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We ain't seen this.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're on a show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's times of so nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't talk about being in the offensive wilderness when it comes to offensive linemen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we were in the wilderness searching for a way out of the wilderness, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we're talking about this team can score 50 points of game and they better because the defense is going to give up 40.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't, that's crazy talk for bear's fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you're talking about leading,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at a Brad Big's mail bag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was talking about, they got him went through office was of course, that's what that's what that's what a berid anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we're not they're not getting paid yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't get paid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where most of your draft capital, everything is going to where you really even pro personnel when we just talked about the offensive line and they either traded for a sign last year.
10:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So look man, you
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, but this is facts.
11:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, usually we be lines I self about the bears being able to do so.
11:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be honest, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish I would.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, no, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're really good whiter seat for this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That part, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got her reps. That part's finally going to be the whiter seat for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just talking about Jake Hullis, why I received him when was Devon Hest, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, dog, Devon Hest, the Hall of Fame, a return game, return goat, whatever, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a lot of him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you look at what they got in that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How we take look, look, look at that why I received a rule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, correct to do a look at this why I received a rule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we're not talking about Darnell Mooney whiter, see for one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And by wearing Pringle whiter, see for two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Only think parable is Marshall, Jeffries, Bennett, Miller.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Only think a parable, Zach Miller.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mark tells us Miller around the team together, but they don't want to see him together.
12:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I could be wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they were on this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's great.
12:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't ruin it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, we'll start popping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of like, oh, we'll break it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we had this crazy injury in the.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy injury, which luckily they took him to the hospital.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There they was a save his leg, though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Taking to the right.
12:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I took care of the nearest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, shout out bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, shout out bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to put out Miller.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, you ain't seen these weapons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, like, this isn't, this isn't the 13th for your lead, while receiver, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this, no, you, this could be something, no, this is something, let's see if they can sustain it and if they can improve one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, that's why this move is so huge, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got all these weapons, you've got the quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want this to turn into a Joe Burrow situation, where he's always hurt because he's always running for his life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What you want this to turn into is a Jared Goff situation where the Lions did such a good job of investing in that offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had the coach, they had the players, they invested the money, they invested the draft capital and Jared Goff could turn his back to the defense and run that play action and no, I'm not going to be running for my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be able to turn around and have a clean pocket and I can operate this offense and Jared Goff played it in an MVP level for a long time still kind of does from time to time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that offensive line was so, so, so, so good for so long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ben Johnson gets that, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he came from the Lions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gets that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How about Tom Brady?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tom Brady who said, like, yeah, pay me less.
13:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So you pay the guys in charge of keeping me clean.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pay them more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They sure that they're getting paid to stay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You do not want to be the Bengals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to be the Lions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to be the Patriots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for the first time, it feels like forever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Since Ben Johnson really got into town since Ben Johnson got into town.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, yeah, we're getting into center.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a new left guard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a new right guard and now we're paying our right tackle.
14:02
[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're taking the steps to build that offensive line that will hopefully be consistent for a long time and keep that quarterback upright and make sure he's got three seconds for those long development plays to develop so that they can score 50 points again.
14:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Ben Johnson came into Halis Hall when he first arrived with a T-shirt that said, use your powder for all the dry powder that Ryan posed was keeping for those off, not spending an offensive lineman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to know about said offensive lineman, see our last episode about the journey in the forest of offensive lineman, just a few, add more to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have come through that have not lived up to what the expectations were that were placed upon them when they were brought into Halis Hall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mean, but that also infuriates me about Ryan polls that Ben Johnson had to come in and be like, Hey, you know that position you played in college.
14:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you spend some bread on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I know you found Braxton Jones once in the fifth round and he was a starter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know you've been trying to find more diamonds in the rough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I was going with Braxon.
15:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I get because you know those things that make me mad and my triggers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a trigger that you never really brought in competition.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still sharp and still.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but you always were saying that these were open competitions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I know there's always one lucky with that, but the fact that I get you found them, you could have helped him by having someone kind of, the same shit we just said about Darna and Wright, look what happens when you put pro-bowlers around young talent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could have done that with either competition for Braxton or put some pro-bowlers next to Braxton to see truly the value if Braxton had the value that you placed upon him after you gave him that position.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is that veteran?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to go down memory landing and who's the veteran from the Patriots?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where were you like?
15:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's finally competition for Braxton Jones and then like he took three snaps with the ones and it became like quick like very clear very quickly that like oh no the scientists was it Matt prior is that his name?
16:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so I think you hit that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think man remember the Matt prior era when he was going to be the the competition?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't help myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Matt prior, shout out, Matt prior spent one season with the Bears in 2020.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He started 15 games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Matt prior started 15 games for the Bears in 2024.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know how bad how beaten up, they look, two things that these offensive lines have been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bad and beaten up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, look at your face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The face that Alex has made of disgust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 15 games was meant prior actually a decent guard and a really bad tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can somebody remind me, somebody, I don't really remember, was meant prior a decent guard in a bad tackle because I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This offensive line, I'm looking it up, we had Coleman Shelton at Center.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had heaven Jenkins at left guard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had Matt Pryer at right guard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had, man, I can't even find the other guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even find who the heck were the tackles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tough, tough sledding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 15 games a apology where the tackle it had to be you said this twenty twenty four right twenty twenty twenty twenty four down on right Sure right tackle because he came in twenty twenty three there you go darn all right with you so then you say in Braxton and Braxton if he was playing guard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying a question in a guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah So think about the hours that was which is you threw out that Cuz that That culture Shelton era was was for for the bees knees
18:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not remember it was actually it was not the real it was for the bird member that don't remember That was good times remember remember seeing uh wait think about it That was that Ryan Bates here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I too remember Ryan Bates I'm out of more names of guys who I've forgotten remember Ryan Bates.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was seeing Justin riff for his life Because that was just his last season, right?
18:27
[SPEAKER_00]: twenty twenty four because you had twenty five.
18:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty five was Caleb's.
18:30
[SPEAKER_01]: No, because I think it's how we counted it.
18:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So twenty twenty five is Caleb's rookie year.
18:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty twenty six was last year last.
18:34
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, twenty twenty six is this year.
18:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So this year's twenty twenty six.
18:36
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18:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams, rookie season where he got sacked 157 times.
18:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Got you, got you.
18:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm counting it because the thing with any of these leagues well, outside of baseball is the year flip and how you count the champion, right?
19:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, right, it's like, right.
19:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where, that's where this throwing me up here.
19:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I hear you, I hear you, I hear you.
19:11
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, speaking of Caleb, looks phenomenal, has lost some weight.
19:18
[SPEAKER_01]: it's good to see.
19:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And also, I think, you know, I feel like, I feel like Domino Wright took his off season preparation has body looks even more serious too, which you want to see that when you give people buried.
19:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But Caleb looks good.
19:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You can see it in his face.
19:32
[SPEAKER_01]: But one thing that Alex and I did when we were talking shop or spoke about, you know, one reason that I like Caleb.
19:40
[SPEAKER_01]: more than Jayland Daniels just because Jayland Daniels is slight and Caleb, know how to talk to son of him, he had some thickness to him, and it just makes you wondering, again, this is Merchettismo Land.
19:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I won't have to be strong enough to do the things that he was doing as far as huge men grabbing him with both hands and him being able to run and spin out of it and him staying healthy while doing it.
20:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Now listen, this, he could do still do that.
20:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He could be better.
20:07
[SPEAKER_01]: This could just be me being a worry warp.
20:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because this could just be all improvement on him.
20:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I just want to make sure that he is physically able.
20:17
[SPEAKER_01]: to consider to continue to do what he wants to do, but probably he knows more than what I do and that he's doing what's best for him, but it's good to see him take his series, but it's not
20:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like you didn't think this.
20:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Like one thing and about all the like, all the BS that came with Caleb about him, Peyton is nails and how people like you say, he's so Hollywood, even though he's only.
20:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got his status.
20:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, oh my god.
20:42
[SPEAKER_01]: How much have we heard about Caleb's that?
20:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Zero.
20:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but Rome, now Rome daddy a pop out.
20:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'd love to be Roman Dunes, and I was like, got my son in the mall, right?
20:52
[SPEAKER_01]: We're on daddy and pop out.
20:53
[SPEAKER_01]: But Caleb's father was supposed to be all this issue and all this problem.
20:58
[SPEAKER_01]: All the, again, it was a civil war.
21:00
[SPEAKER_01]: People said crazy things do awards in general.
21:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what it was?
21:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It was 31 other NFL teams trying desperately to get Caleb Williams to not be drafted.
21:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Number one so that they would have a shot.
21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely.
21:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But just, to me,
21:16
[SPEAKER_01]: and like just watching it from outside and he never seemed like.
21:19
[SPEAKER_01]: what they were trying to say that he was, or I just some weirdo, basically.
21:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And regardless of, again, if you think, I don't care about that man's nails like that.
21:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, okay, particularly guys, I slings that rock, but like all that.
21:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, he, like, when I hear people like, I hear national people say, you know, him taking his sears, it's like, there's never been any issue where you definitely didn't think he was taking his sears.
21:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, he may not have been trained up on how to go about getting to the next,
21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: the next level.
21:48
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That could be right.
21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That could be a question as far as he may have been doing things because he didn't know how to do them properly because there was no one to show them how to do them properly.
21:57
[SPEAKER_00]: But now he does and he took it seriously, like by all accounts, he takes it very seriously.
22:03
[SPEAKER_00]: He put in the work to learn how to put in the work.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right?
22:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he wants like, everybody says they want to be great.
22:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody says they love football.
22:14
[SPEAKER_00]: There's levels to it.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And when Caleb Williams says, I want to be the best football player of all time.
22:21
[SPEAKER_00]: He means it means it and he also means like I'm going to do what it takes to become the best football player of all time, which The best football player of all time, which a lot of guys don't do they simply don't do
22:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody, look, most people don't want to put their name on it because people are going to be like, remember when you said this to what you had to back up with your saying, he already had the hype of a guy that could be, but for him to want it to and say it, but then also show that he freaky, like, I think we don't even talk about.
22:57
[SPEAKER_01]: No,
22:59
[SPEAKER_01]: We are so battered that I feel like we enjoyed last year.
23:03
[SPEAKER_01]: We love last year.
23:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Also last year was frustrating at times.
23:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think some of last year we block it.
23:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in a haze in some ways.
23:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it was against the lions.
23:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Two, oh, bro, it was, it was bad business.
23:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And but to see him go through it.
23:22
[SPEAKER_01]: and become so much better, but also consistently proved that he is probably, unless practicing my homes can reclaim it, the most clutch player within the NFL.
23:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want it.
23:29
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:29
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:32
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:32
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: That's got to one.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, this is the reason I'm saying it's first of all.
23:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Team Baby Go, patching the homes hasn't had the opportunities.
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's often, and with the players around him to show that Tennessee.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tracking the homes is the best quarterback within NFL.
23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell them to complete argue with your mama.
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm saying this.
23:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I'm going to say this shit and there's bias in this, I don't care.
24:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Patron belongs to me and I'm saying I'm being biased for Kayla, but the thing is this, that was different Alex, like every like all, like that's, particularly no, it makes it even more different.
24:11
[SPEAKER_01]: You were bad in the first three quarters of the, let me in the game after time, right?
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden, it was like, hey, go win it, right?
24:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, here, go win it, like, go win a football game.
24:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I do I never only there's only been one guy consistently in my life consistently.
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: There's been a guy that came close to he got hurt
24:35
[SPEAKER_01]: One guy in my life, that anytime you basically, not to say he didn't have to go through with loot losses, just like go in it and it was like, he probably about to do it.
24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was Michael Jordan.
24:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, Kevin was Michael Jordan's stop, all right?
24:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you didn't grow up with Michael Jordan, you don't know how it is to root for someone and they don't really lose like that.
24:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, even when the chips are down,
25:00
[SPEAKER_01]: He would go back like what Jordan went a title bro.
25:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a wrap.
25:07
[SPEAKER_00]: You went to a bull's game at home.
25:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You knew you were going to see a win and 99% of the time you were right.
25:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I know if some of the things with something you have to bit live through it, you can't really describe how crazy it was to watch Michael Jordan.
25:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, if you didn't see it, you wouldn't know because y'all players lose too much now.
25:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even trying to be an ass.
25:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying, and I said to somebody, they don't play enough either, but you put your
25:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You can tell me who the greatest NBA players have been over the last 20, 25 years, right?
25:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll tell you this.
25:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Did any of them stop any of the rest of them from eating?
25:50
[SPEAKER_01]: because yeah, people still make fun of Charles Barkley.
25:53
[SPEAKER_01]: They make, you don't know who how cold Charles Barkley was ill than a mug.
25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Michael Jordan compared to what people think because they didn't win titles.
26:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I still know Charles Barkley is great.
26:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I still know Reggie Millen was a bad ass man.
26:08
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, like some of these guys that were,
26:11
[SPEAKER_01]: even though Gary Peyton won a championship in Miami, but they stopped the Miss Seattle.
26:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I still know how how Cole Gary Peyton was.
26:20
[SPEAKER_01]: We will not mention Carl Malone and any faster with anything within the type of positive.
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm just saying this, everybody, think about it.
26:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was the last time in the NBA that they've had a back-to-back champion.
26:32
[SPEAKER_01]: It was what Golden State.
26:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe I'm pretty sure it was going to stay.
26:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it last back to back there?
26:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll take cover.
26:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Go back to back.
26:39
[SPEAKER_00]: They've won a bunch lately.
26:41
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm tough.
26:42
[SPEAKER_01]: No, the Seltas only have, oh, Jane Brown had to only won one.
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: They've always been to the conference finals for the most part.
26:49
[SPEAKER_01]: They won one.
26:50
[SPEAKER_01]: No, one more.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: They won one.
26:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just so what my point being everybody eats in the NBA now everybody Hey, it shows I go get you a title.
26:59
[SPEAKER_01]: There was no go get you a title.
27:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It was Jordan retired a lot of one got to Jordan came back He got to remort all right.
27:05
[SPEAKER_00]: That's who that's like Patrick Ewing is an eaten.
27:08
[SPEAKER_00]: There's there's no go get you a title Patrick Ewing
27:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, there was no, there was no, let's say Clyde Drexlin had to get traded because Jordan stopped him in and with the blazes, he had to run and give to his old college teammate.
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: With a lot of you want to go grab him when my Jordan was a bit, you got to grab him by before Mike gets back.
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they was all saying in the streets.
27:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Grab him before Mike gets back.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm lying.
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not what people say.
27:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I'm, and I know it seems like, oh, get off my porch.
27:34
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm telling you there was no sharing.
27:37
[SPEAKER_01]: It was this is mine, the rest of you aren't on this level.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't, uh, all year y'all can happen.
27:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't like that.
27:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, you had to be there.
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, look, I hope y'all see something something like that in your life.
27:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even saying it in the negative way.
27:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope Wimby's able to do that.
27:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm saying team Wimby.
27:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's my support.
28:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that was my extra point that's that's great.
28:03
[SPEAKER_01]: We did the extra power, but we happened.
28:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Taylor Williams is not Michael Jordan yet.
28:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but if he wins three superballs in a row, then takes a little time off to play baseball and then comes back and wins three more titles.
28:21
[SPEAKER_00]: He will be the next Jordan.
28:23
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's got work to do this.
28:25
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got work to do three three
28:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And then three more Chicago would blow up if he went to a world like, oh my goodness, if he will three dollars plus a step with the white socks minor league system, right, come on.
28:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see Caleb Williams play for the white socks.
28:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I see I'm gonna tell y'all this and this is the thing that by going back to the Jordan thing There's nothing worse than a proud Chicago sports fan.
28:54
[SPEAKER_01]: All right Because we hit you with hyperbole but facts too y'all do not want to see Chicago fans if the bears are Perennial contenders and they're winning it half time like you do not want to hear y'all You do not want to hear how crazy
29:12
[SPEAKER_01]: bears fans are going to be talking to them.
29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, and people that are fair weather fans jumping on the bear wagon is going to be the nation you will hate us right now and you watch it not always tell people this the net programming want the bears to be good.
29:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get it twisted.
29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: People like know they are one good good for TV.
29:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Watch ESPN.
29:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Now they love hyping the bears up at the beginning of the year.
29:33
[SPEAKER_01]: They love it because it's the middle of the country.
29:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the third largest city.
29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but then you have the whole middle of the region that follows the bears outside of the bears having fans.
29:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It all over the country and national.
29:45
[SPEAKER_01]: We see our show.
29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But so the part that I'm to be saying is this, you ought to be so good to see the seaboard hate on Chicago because they're tired of the bears winning.
29:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I, E, like a team, the bears be in the Super Bowl.
30:02
[SPEAKER_01]: When they were just in the Super Bowl regularly, and I'm referring to the New England Patriots.
30:07
[SPEAKER_01]: throughout the early 2020's 2000s, 2000s, I'm gonna have to say.
30:11
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, Clay Williams looks good, looks like he's progressing, got to see it when it's live, against opposing teams, but I don't know, like, man, I'm too, I'm so on team Caleb.
30:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He would really have to fall on his face to give me off.
30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And now, because I don't think it's BS.
30:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's really why I was talking about the clutch thing.
30:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause I think, and I know, I think Joe, I think he's going to become more efficient from the standpoint of staying within the framework of the play.
30:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you add to that that he is so clutch.
30:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you want to say he's the second most clutch play in the league, that's fine with me too.
30:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but he's so clutch and he's clutch has weapons because this is another thing to be clutch we've mentioned and I might say that color was clutch, but he is he only had devil has to and he some guys can win with that, but you usually came when titles with that.
31:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but you think about the weapons that he has it's going to be nasty work and we haven't even talked about.
31:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know this is one thing we said last year.
31:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we'll see it more this year.
31:11
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't even talked about using, particularly Darnale Swift, Zavion Thomas in the passing day.
31:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
31:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we haven't even gotten into...
31:21
[SPEAKER_00]: There's just a few more of us, man.
31:22
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to 21 this year.
31:23
[SPEAKER_00]: This is year two.
31:25
[SPEAKER_00]: They're scratching the surface.
31:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, what you, I, I just sent out Burton, Rome, Costa, right?
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I got, I, I, I'm a keep coldly in coke.
31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Or at least cold, fake block for a minute, or whatever, right?
31:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Just, you know, it did, yes.
31:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and then I got, I got, I got, Swift 50 back here.
31:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, I don't know where else will me Swiftie?
31:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, like, dude, that,
31:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And you got a quarterback this hot has fish grease with the decent.
31:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really a good offensive line.
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Calman, I'm going to get Biden.
31:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Darnell, right in punches in from four yards.
32:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Just go like that.
32:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I'm hyped.
32:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that the strength of schedule has improved due to their winning last season, but again, they can score with anybody.
32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no, Dom, they got almost beat the Rams, bro.
32:16
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
32:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Stay almost back.
32:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm almost back.
32:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a Super Bowl.
32:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
32:21
[SPEAKER_00]: At least the Rams.
32:22
[SPEAKER_00]: They still had to make a pass to the C.L.C.O.C.O.
32:25
[SPEAKER_00]: They were the B.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.O.C.OC.OC.OC.OC.OC.OC.OC.OC.OC
32:35
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
32:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Because no one at the beginning of your expected Seattle to win the Super Bowl, I think their defense unless they can have a real era of being being great would be a knack at the props that it deserves as being one of the better defenses within it.
32:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like almost like they they're overshadowed.
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
32:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
32:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
32:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do.
33:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, people are still talking about the Legion of Boom, not lasting this ass where we're after said, why don't those guys look different from those other guys talking about the last two months.
33:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, well, very, of course, those are office and live, but the team, they weren't like fat office and live, but you know, right.
33:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it was what, oh, that's not even cool to lie back.
33:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in the face of fact, they were sending, it was like everybody had, they had eight and a half, all over across the board.
33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: All 11 guys on that.
33:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I didn't have this.
33:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, yes, they rate was eight and a half.
33:37
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like that, that part dude, they were overwhelming people last year to say the least right.
33:45
[SPEAKER_01]: As we are now offices of football over here,
33:49
[SPEAKER_01]: all right again about defensive football now we care about his winning and scoring points of course we want the defensive to be good on different ceasers.
33:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, anything else before we get out of here, Alex, not sure point is Michael Jordan was the greatest watch hint was sublime apologies to our younger fans who never had the opportunity.
34:09
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a true joy if Caleb Williams wins a bunch of championships and maybe he'll be the next MJ but man, MJ was really art in motion.
34:16
[SPEAKER_00]: What a dream.
34:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And we, and we need to even talk about him defensively.
34:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we didn't even talk about the steals.
34:26
[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be next week, tune in next week to hear about Michael Jordan in the steals.
34:31
[SPEAKER_00]: He was so good.
34:32
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't even win a bunch of defense players a year.
34:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I was young, so I wasn't like deep in the stats like that.
34:37
[SPEAKER_01]: He definitely won one in the MVP.
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe the third, the year that he won a score 37 points.
34:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's next week's extra point.
34:45
[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about Michael Jordan's...
34:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope he got two of them.
34:48
[SPEAKER_01]: That fast won.
34:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Which again, we're talking about the guy that was leading the league in score.
34:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he said to himself to be better than if I'm going to be better than magic in Larry Burr, I can't be a good team defender.
35:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to be a good individual, a different thing.
35:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Back in the days, your best players weren't giving it all on both ends of the court like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even the goats, the back of the days, I've talked about Burr and magic, they weren't, yeah, Michael Cooper, all right, cool, get on them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh uh uh cornbread Maxwell get on them bird right that's what you know get on them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No Mike was like I got this and then he definitely still had a great defensive player alongside him and offensive facilitator and Scotty Pippa.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's enough for your dinosaur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One time defensive player the year nine time all defensive first team ten time scoring champion and three time steals leader.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean there will never be a player like him ever again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: three times still three times steel champion 10 times scoring leader nine time defensive first team come on what year could you tell me because i think i said all right what year was that the pizzer player the year war uh nineteen eighty eights it was eighty eight so he was still a young buck so what was Jordan average in that year oh god i don't know because i want yeah i want
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Michael Jordan, get a basketball reference dot cam.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my, Michael Jordan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if he won it in 1988, it was the 1987, 1988 season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's 37 points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He led the league in field goals and led the league in minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 40 point four minutes 13 field goals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He scored 35 points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He scored 35 points a game and was the defense of player the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so that's a pound.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how he just sees it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the season after he
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, for Alexapiro, I am Kenneth Davis.
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