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The Murder of Mickey Bryan Part 5: Killer Cop · Gone Cold - Texas True Crime

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is advised. Joe Brian was released from a Huntsville, Texas prison in nineteen
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eighty eight after on a technicality, he was granted a new trial. The
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judge in his nineteen eighty six trial for killing his wife, Mickey Brian had
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denied a defense motion that called into question one of the motives strongly implied by
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the prosecution, a substantial payout. Being out of prison with nearly everything lost
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to him wasn't really much relief. The love of Joe's life was gone,
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as was his job, his home, and the trust, respect and friendship
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of Clifton residents he'd spent a decade gaining as the high school's principal. They
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didn't understand how or why Joe Brian killed Mickey, but the cops, the
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dis strict attorney, and twelve upstanding Bosky County men and women all said he
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did it, so they believed that he did. Clifton was a typical small
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Texas town, a law and ordered town full of folks who believed wholeheartedly in
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the justice system. As the result of this sort of blind trust, many
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called Joe guilty as sin. Though many of those experienced cognitive dissonance when they
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remembered Joe's exemplary standing in the community, still faith in the balanced scales of
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the justice system generally one out. Even Joe's twin brother had turned his back
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on him. Proving he didn't kill Mickey anyway had become his sole purpose.
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The seven day re trial, which took place in June of nineteen eighty nine,
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besides being moved to Comanche County, wasn't much different than the first,
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at least as far as the prosecution witnesses. Texas Ranger Joe Wiley, Harker
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Heights Police Sergeant Bob Thorman, and the victim's brother, Charlie Blue were again
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perhaps the most impactful. District Attorney Andy McMullen, and even Special Prosecutor Gary
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Llewellen returned to retry the case, but this time only five character witnesses came
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to support Joe Brian as opposed to the thirty six plus who'd shown up before.
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Seventy five miles from the courtroom where he was first tried, there wasn't
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a single juror familiar with Joe's impeccable reputation or genuine good nature. There were
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plenty of empty seats in the courtroom. The media was largely uninterested. Once
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again, Joe Dale Bryan, now forty eight years old, was found guilty
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and sentence to ninety nine years in prison. He was sent back to the
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same maximum security penitentiary in Huntsville he'd been released from the year prior. Nicknamed
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the Walls Unit, the last remnants of hope to clear his name or something
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Joe desperately clung to, But the bleak and grim conditions behind the walls of
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Texas's oldest prison didn't make it easy. When the father of a slain Clifton
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teenager visited the editor of the newspaper that had published detailed articles about Joe's nineteen
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eighty six trial that heavily and inarguably favored the prosecution's case. However, it
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gave the convicted man reason to fight. In the summer of nineteen ninety one,
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the managing editor of the Clifton Record, W. L. Leon Smith,
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was paid a visit by a desperate man, Don Whitley, whose seventeen
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year old daughter Judy had been murdered six years before, wanted answers and the
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Clifton Police. Don told Leon had walked away from the case, leaving it
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unsolved more by choice than by the lack of evidence. Pointing to a suspect,
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Don asked the newspaper man if he would attempt to enlist the help of
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the syndicated television show Unsolved Mysteries, who he hoped would conduct a proper investigation.
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While he was at it, Don insisted Leon should also mention the Mickey
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Brian case to the TV program. It had already been adjudicated. Of course,
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but Don's wife knew Joe Bryan, he said, and believed there was
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no way in hell he was responsible. Perhaps the two were connected, Don
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wondered, w Leon Smith was a good guy, an old school journalist who
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both believed in the truth and felt a genuine obligation as a reporter to serve
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his fellow citizen. Of course, he'd help to entice Unsolved Mysteries to take
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the cases. Leon began an endeavor of his own after contacting the show.
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He'd pour over the evidence himself and write something up to publish in the Clifton
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Record. When he contacted Joe Brian, hope and appreciation overwhelmed the inmate.
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Absolutely he would cooperate, Joe told Leon, somewhat to the reporter's surprise.
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Leon had assumed the courts got it right, but Joe told him he had
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nothing to hide and was excited at the prospect of also potentially helping the Whitley
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family with Judy's case. It too, was a case close to his heart.
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She'd been a student at Clifton High where he was principal. For two
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long days, w Leon Smith poured over the Mickey Bryan murder case file,
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of which he'd been granted access by Clifton Police Chief Jim Vanderhoof, who'd come
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on the job in March of nineteen eighty seven. Right away under his command
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and alongside a few other officers knew to the force, the Judy Whitley case
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was revisited, put back on the front burner, as vander Hoof put it.
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Also enlisted was the help of criminal intelligence officers from the Texas Department of
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Public Safety, Texas Rangers, and behavioral science agents from the FBI. They'd
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come up with a surprisingly complete picture of the suspect, Vanderhoof said, and
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evidence was being tested four years after the fact. However, no arrests had
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been made. Chief Vanderhoof liked Clifton Record editor W. Leon Smith and gladly
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let him see the Mickeybrian came because the Judy Whitley murder was still open,
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though virtually inactive at this point, Leon's access to that case file was limited.
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Because of this, he decided he'd craft many of the questions he would
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present to Joe Brian as ones that he thought would conjure up common denominators with
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Judy's murder. On September seventeenth, nineteen ninety one, Leon conducted his first
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two hour interview with Joe. While he was permitted to record the audio,
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no cameras were allowed, though guards agreed to snap a couple shots of the
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two men talking, separated by thick glass and steel mesh, using Leon's polaroid.
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A significant portion of the first interview concentrated on Joe's life inside the Walls
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Unit, his anger at God, which he'd quickly overcome as his faith was
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too strong to break. Joe spoke of it, lack of freedom and privacy,
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and his job working in the prison compliance office. Next, Leon asked
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him about something he had heard that Joe had been the target of a hired
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hit shortly after he'd come to the Walls unit. Joe confirmed it at three
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am on January thirty first, nineteen eighty seven. Joe told Leon. A
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guard woke him up and brought him to the captain's office. A lieutenant there
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told Joe that the Texas Rangers had informed them of a contract out on his
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life. I hope they'd do it and get this over with, Joe remembered
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thinking to himself. At the time, many inmates were coming in and out
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of the unit, which had been set up as a medical center briefly temporarily,
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Joe was in protective custody. Not long after, in the compliance office
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where he worked, an inmate came asking for Joe Brian. He went to
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the door and told a man that was him, and the inmate said,
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that's all I needed to know, turned around and walked out. Prison administration
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wished to move Joe to maximum security lock up, but because he'd known of
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another inmate being killed in another unit in max's security, he asked them not
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to. He'd have a better chance at running in jen Pop. Joe believed
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the hit was either never attempted or had failed because of the watchful eye on
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Joe as the result of the threat. As they continued the interview, Joe
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told Leon he'd found work in Houston while he was out of prison awaiting a
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new trial, at a private school there the only place he could find to
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hire him. He taught English to kids with behavioral or substance abuse issues.
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Knowing what he now knew, he wanted to keep them out of the penitentiary,
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Joe said, a natural at working with teenagers of any kind, He
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became principal of the school after only one month, but continuing that work became
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impossible not long after when he was convicted again. Now he planned to get
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that conviction reversed and then teach in the prison system, a job officials there
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had guaranteed him should he be freed. He wanted to use his unique experiences
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to help others, but first, Joe insisted he would hire a professional investigator
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to find out who really killed Mickey, who he described as his life.
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your podcasts. Though at trial Joe Bryan's defense team had strongly implied that the
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victim's brother, Charlie Blue, had planted the supposed blood spattered flashlight in the
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trunk of his car, they had not provided adequate alternate suspect. Upon his
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review of the Mickey Brian murder case file, one thing immediately caught the attention
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of Clifton Record managing editor W Leon Smith. Something that seemed particularly important Just
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after midnight on October sixteenth, nineteen eighty five, the day after Mickey's body
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was found, two men had been spotted at a local Ford dealership. One
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of the men was standing next to a van that had just been spray painted
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green over its original color of white. It had no license plates. The
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man told a Clifton police officer he'd painted the van for an upcoming hunting excursion.
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Each of the men had significant criminal records that included weapons convictions and one
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theft an invasion of privacy charges. It was just one of the many leads
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that hadn't been followed up on in the investigation of Mickey Brian's murder. Once
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Joe Brian was arrested and charged in fact, investigation into any other possibility came
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to a screeching halt. During his entry with Joe, Leon asked him to
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speculate his intentions weren't nefarious. Rather, he wanted to give Joe the chance
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to express his thoughts about the murder of his wife. Joe didn't know anything,
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really, he told Leon, but thought it was possible Mickey and Judy's
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murders could be connected. As far as Judy's case went, he remembered something
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from the time that had been spun by the famous Clifton rumor mill talk that
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a Clifton police officer was responsible and that there may have been a cover up
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as the result. When Leon mentioned there was a home in the Brians neighborhood
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that, after Mickey's murder, had become known as a drug house, Joe
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told him neither he nor his wife had known anything about it. He hadn't
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seen or heard anything that might put the couple in any danger, Joe continued,
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and to his knowledge, neither had Mickey. Interestingly, perhaps the intelligence
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the Texas Rangers were given about the contract on Joe's life was thought to have
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had something to do with someone involved in narcotics. At the time of the
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interview, Joe's case was in the appeals process and a private investigator had been
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approved by him to help out. A former Texas Ranger, Joe told Leon
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was also interested in working with the PI. During his questioning of Joe W.
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Leon Smith covered just about every base imaginable. Joe denied, ever putting
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the alleged blood spattered flashlight in his trunk. The flaps used to close the
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box in which the flashlight was found were folded all the way down inside,
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Joe said, and reached the bottom of the box. The money bag he
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found after the search warrant was executed was under one of those flaps, though
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Texas Ranger Joe Wiley insisted they'd gone away over every inch of Joe's car and
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the money bag was not there. It's unclear if a photograph of the box
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with the flaps folded back out and open was among the ones documenting the search.
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If one did exist, it apparently was not shown in court. As
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far as Unsolved Mysteries was concerned. Even after releasing his incredibly compelling three part
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interview with Joe, Leon couldn't get the TV show to come to town,
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further investigate and run segments on the Mickey, Brian and Judy Whitley cases.
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The Newspaperman did, however, walk away with a nagging feeling that not only
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had justice for Mickey not been served, but a great injustice against Joe had
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been committed. As a journalist, Leon felt compelled, if not obligated,
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to investigate himself. As Clifton Police Chief Jim Vanderhoof would not reinvestigate, choosing
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instead to concentrate on the Judy Whitley case. Though the lawmen did agree with
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Leon that Mickey's case merited for the review, Leon obsessively investigated. It was
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claimed at court that a cigarette butt had been discarded in the street by Peace
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Justice Alvin James and was tracked all the way up to the Brian home and
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into the kitchen by way of the soul of Ranger Wiley's cowboy boots. Leon
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attempted an experiment to replicate that occurrence. He waited for a storm to come
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and go, and when the ground was as wet as it had been the
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morning Mickey's body was discovered, he attempted to step on cigarette butts with his
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own boots to track them a comparable distance for an hour. Leon conducted this
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experiment, but said he could never get one to stick to his boots for
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more than a step or two. In interviews, Joe had told Leon when
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the cigarette butt was presented in court as evidence, it didn't even appear to
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have been stepped on. He and vander Hoof continued to trade notes on their
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separate cases, and Leon was granted uncommon access to publicly unknown details in Judy's
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case. Soon enough, the Chief of Police and the editor of the local
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paper were onto a potential alternate suspect for the murder of Mickey Bryan and a
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strong primary suspect in the Judy Whitley case, a former Clifton police officer.
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There was indeed truth to one of the rumors going around after Judy's murder.
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Dennis Murray Dunlap, a local policeman at the time of Judy's murder, was
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a, if not the primary suspect in the case. Dunlap was something of
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a wanderer, having moved from one small Texas town police department to the next
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for years. He was a police officer in Clifton for less than a year,
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but in that short pace period had managed to develop a reputation for harassing,
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intimidating, and stalking women while on duty and off. While Dunlap was
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never internally investigated for this behavior, he was looked at, albeit briefly and
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markedly inadequately, for the murder of seventeen year old Judy Whitley. Chief Vanderhoof
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had kept up with Dunlap's movements from town to town since he'd first begun looking
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into Judy's case in eighty seven, tracing his movements before that has proved difficult.
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The earliest newspaper reports about Dennis Murray Dunlap as a police officer are in
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December of nineteen seventy three, up in Galena, Ohio. He'd shot himself
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in the right thigh with a twenty two caliber revolver accidentally. By nineteen seventy
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seven, Dunlap was in Denton, Texas. In the fall of that year,
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twelve year old Susy Murrey Mages was abducted from Denton and later found murdered
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in Dallas. In nineteen seventy eight and into nineteen seventy nine, Dunlap spent
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a year as the police chief of Little Elm, a small town not far
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east of Denton. In nineteen eighty one, he lived in Lake Dallas.
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In June of nineteen eighty four, Dunlap was accused of sexual harassment in Newark,
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Texas, where he was the only police officer the chief. He resigned
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and skipped town as the result of the allegations. Dunlap arrived in Clifton after
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that and joined the force there. On January fifteenth, nineteen eighty five,
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at thirty eight years old, he married a local woman named Elaine in April
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of that year, though two weeks later she threw him out for watching her
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as she slept and stalking her. On June nineteenth, nineteen eighty five,
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seventeen year old Judy Whitley was abducted, bound, raped, and slain.
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By July thirteenth, nineteen eighty five, Dunlap had once again moved on.
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That's an important date as far as the Judy Whitley case is concerned. We'll
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get to that. Dunlap, anyway, changed wives about as often as he
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skipped town. His many divorces included accusations of neglect, absence, and extreme
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cruelty. In nineteen ninety one, Chief vanderhoof New Dunlap was living just southwest
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of Houston and suburban Nadville, and newspaperman W. Leon Smith began corresponding with
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him that fall. Leon was looking for police officers on the force when Judy
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was murdered and asking some questions he told Dunlap. The ex Clifton cop replied
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with brief answers to the standard questions. It was just a warm up for
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Leon. Eventually, over the course of four life, he interrogated Dunlap on
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paper, asking him to explain his being named a suspect and Judy Whitley's murder.
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Dunlap, when he finally answered the final letter now early nineteen ninety two,
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denied ever being told he was a suspect, and in fact had been
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told by then police Chief Rob brennand that he was not one. He moved
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away, he said, simply because he didn't like it there. Chief Jim
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Vanderhoof felt he didn't have the proof he needed to arrest Dennis Murray Dunlap for
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the murder of Judy Whitley since some of the evidence mysteriously vanished from headquarters.
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During the initial investigation, a fellow Clifton police officer suspected thirty eight year old
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Dennis Murray Dunlap of the rape murder of seventeen year old Judy Whitley, and
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no matter what he told w Leon Smith via handwritten letters in nineteen ninety one
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and ninety two, he was looked at in the initial investigation. Briefly,
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the rumor going around town that a policeman was being investigated for killing Judy was
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true, at least in part. According to detectives working the case, Dunlap
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knew specific details about the crime that he shouldn't have, things known only to
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them and the killer. Within weeks of the murder, Texas Ranger Joe Wiley
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took Dunlap to Texas Department of Public Safety headquarters in Waco to undergo a polygraph
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examination. Wiley said the results were inconclusive and any further investigation into the officer
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pretty much ended there. It should not have. Judy Whitley's sister, Patricia,
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met Dennis Murray Dunlap when he came into a convenience store where she worked.
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He asked her out and she agreed to the date. Although he was
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a police officer, he had kind of a bad boy look, disheveled,
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dirty blonde hair, cowboy boots under his police blues, and intense mysterious eyes,
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not to mention character. When they went to his apartment, however,
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Patricia decided Dunlap wasn't the guy for her after she noticed photos depicting women in
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bondage, wearing and bound by leather and chains. She was done with him
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after one date. Not long after that, Judy went missing, and the
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next day Dunlap delivered the news to the Whitley family that she'd been found deceased.
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He hadn't been among the authorities at the scene, but described the crime
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to the Whitleys in more detail than he should have known at that time.
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The policeman, not detective, immersed himself in Judy's rape and murder case,
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whether it was asking questions about its progression or consoling the family. Sometimes.
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Patricia later said it seemed like he'd appear out of thin air, like he
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was always around watching. Dunlap even insisted on being a pallbearer at Judy Whitley's
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funeral. For just shy of a month. He continued to be fixated on
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the Whitley family until one day he was gone. In the early morning hours
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of July eleventh, nineteen eighty five, the home of Judy Whitley's grandmother exploded
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and became engulfed in flames. The Clifton police had gotten word that Judy kept
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a detailed diary there that might contain clues as to the identity of her killer.
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Although the diary was just a rumor, Judy never kept one, The
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cop were scheduled to search her grandmother's home for it later on the day it
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burnt down. It was after the explosion and fire that Dunlap underwent a polygraph
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examination, which again proved inconclusive and more or less stopped the investigation into him,
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at least at that time. Two days after the explosion, Dennis Murray
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Dunlap handed over his badge and service weapon and left Clifton, Texas. He
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skipped town so abruptly, in fact, that associates of the man were left
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to clean his residence and discard of his personal belongings, including a Honda motorcycle.
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Physical items from the Judy Whitley murder investigation, tape recordings, and other
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materials vanished from the Clifton police evidence locker right along with him. Later,
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after finding similar duct tape as that used in the crime, when they cleaned
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out Dunlap's belongings, it too disappeared. Dunlap moved to an unknown place in
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the Dallas Fort Worth area and stayed for an unknown period of time before moving
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to Nedville. On April twelfth, nineteen ninety six, a call was placed
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to nine one one in Rosenberg, Texas, just southwest of Houston. Police
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responded to the scene at twelve fifty pm, where they found forty nine year
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old Dennis Murray Dunlap hanging in his garage. What Rosenberg police detective Brad Rawlins
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referred to as a nine knot noose was tight around his neck. The other
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end of the rope tied to a secured pole and draped over an ibeam.
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Five minutes before his girlfriend found his body, Dunlap spoke to her on the
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telephone and asked her to bring him a coke. Two suicide notes and a
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suicide tape recording were found at the scene. In one of the notes,
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he described being disgusted with his life and the rotten hand in that life he'd
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been dealt. As they searched Dunlap's apartment, they discovered the letters Clifton newspaperman
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W. Leon Smith had wrote to him, and it became clear their suicide
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victim was also a suspect in a decade old murder investigation. Authorities in Rosenberg
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promptly called and then released the scene of Dunlap's suicide to an investigator from Clifton.
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Sergeant Rex's childress drove the two hundred and twenty miles to comb through Dunlap's
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apartment, and over the course of several trips, interviewed folks who knew him.
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Texas ranger Christine Nix also joined the investigation. Dunlap was always in fear,
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the investigators learned, always looking over his shoulder, expecting law enforcement to
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come for him at any time, and it's no wonder for years. In
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a heroic effort, Clifton Police Chief Jim Vanderhoof had been anonymously mailing Dunlap newspaper
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clippings about Judy Whitley's ongoing murder investigation. Vanderhoof later said he wanted Dunlap to
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know he was being watched. After receiving the clippings, one associate of the
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man's said he'd become despondent and once remarked he was glad they didn't find the
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gray duct tape in the trunk of his police cruiser. Judy Whitley's mouth had
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been covered in such tape. The investigation into Dunlap intensified after his suicide,
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and after the public answered law enforcements please for information via the media, the
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picture of a violent and predatory man began developing. He'd once choked out a
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woman who refused to have sex with him, warning her that he could kill
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her if he wanted to. And she knew it. One of the many
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women he stalked in Clifton had filed several complaints against him, but nothing came
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of any of them. Dunlap apparently was known for killing household pets for no
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reason, including dogs and bunnies, interviewees told police, and often threatened to
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burn down houses. Witnesses told police he built bombs. Folks who knew Dunlap
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claimed he described to them in detail what he'd done to Judy, handcuffing her,
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taking her to the woods, handcuffing her to a tree, placing the
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tape over her mouth, and sexually assaulting her. She died while Dunlap raped
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her. Unable to properly breathe, He described it as gurgling on her own
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saliva, one individual said, listening as she struggled to breathe in her final
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moments. During the course of his four and a half year investigation, Clifton
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Record managing editors W. Leon Smith was able to collect evidence and information in
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both cases that had been missed or simply not investigated. After Dunlap's suicide,
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the Clifton Police and Texas Rangers began an intensive investigation of their own. Finally,
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and fourteen years after Judy Whitley was murdered on Tuesday June fifteenth, nineteen
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ninety nine, Rex Childress, who'd since taken over as police chief after Vanderhof's
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death in nineteen ninety seven, announced that Dennis Murray Dunlap was the killer and
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that the case was now cleared. Attempts at landing a posthumous indictment, however,
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had failed. The Whitley family, though they experienced some relief, were
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angered at law enforcement's failure to nail Dunlap while he was still alive. In
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the weeks following the heinous crime. Then police Chief Rob Brennan had actually told
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dun Lay it would be best if he left town, he later admitted,
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and the Merit at the time vehemently denied there was a police officer under investigation
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at all, but the Whitleys had suspected him almost since the beginning. The
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victim's sister, Patricia also suspected Dunlap for the murder of Mickey Bryan, and
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it wasn't something she had just plucked out of the clear blue sky. That
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and the hearing that should have landed Joe Dale Bryan a third trial next time
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