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Father's Day, Around the World · Ridiculous History

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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the show, fellow Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so
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  Speaker 1: much for tuning in. Let's hear it for one of
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  Speaker 1: our favorite cat dads, our super producer, mister Max Williams.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you know what I like.
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  Speaker 3: I like boots and cats, boots and cats and boots.
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  Speaker 3: And that's how you approximate a techno beat.
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  Speaker 4: With words, Can you do it?
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  Speaker 3: That's Nold Brown and your Bembola and you go boots
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  Speaker 3: and cats and boots and cats. And you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think it's actually I got that that. I learned that
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  Speaker 3: from Siria. I want to say, I can't remember I
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  Speaker 3: came up somehow, but yeah, yeah, for sure, Cat dads, dad,
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  Speaker 3: dad's daddies, zaddies and daddies.
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  Speaker 2: We're here for all of you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I am I am called Ben Bollen in
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  Speaker 1: this part of the country dealing with dealing with some
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  Speaker 1: dad issues ourselves at this moment, we wanted to take
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  Speaker 1: a special excursion here on Ridiculous History in celebration of
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  Speaker 1: Father's Day. Noel, Max, We've all talked in the past
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  Speaker 1: about the importance of Father's Day. Always relationships with one's
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  Speaker 1: parents can be complicated. Right, the course of true love
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  Speaker 1: never did run smooth.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're.
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  Speaker 5: Talking about, right, right, right, right right, And we want
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  Speaker 5: to first off, thank everybody who has a father or
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  Speaker 5: is a father themselves in the crowd.
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  Speaker 1: And I'd like to take a moment, Noel, not to
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  Speaker 1: put you on the spot too hard, to let you
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  Speaker 1: know that you're you're doing a kick ass job as
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  Speaker 1: a dad man.
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  Speaker 3: Aw, thanks buddy, I appreciate that, and you know, all
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  Speaker 3: my career, Hey, thanks pal. And while my father has
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  Speaker 3: has moved on beyond this mortal coil, I do like
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  Speaker 3: to think of him as a Mufasa in the cloud
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  Speaker 3: situation sometimes and do try to still honor him on
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  Speaker 3: Father's Day, which is of course a highly commercial holiday.
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  Speaker 3: Let's not get it twisted, but I think it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of neat. And today we're gonna talk about we've done
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  Speaker 3: the history of Father's Day before, but today we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: do a bit of a Father's Day grab bag full
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  Speaker 3: of socks and neckties and wrist watches and all the
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  Speaker 3: fun stuff. We're gonna have some suggestions for Father's Day.
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  Speaker 3: Guess we're gonna talk about some Father's Day traditions the
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  Speaker 3: world over and maybe some famous zaddies, some famous dads.
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  Speaker 2: I think you got some in your back pocket, Ben, But.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is what we're gonna do on
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  Speaker 3: today's episode of Ridiculous Father's Day History, right.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Father's Day History.
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  Speaker 1: Please do check out our earlier episode. We're gonna republish
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  Speaker 1: this as a classic uh this weekend. You can find
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  Speaker 1: it as the origins of and backlash against Father's Day,
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  Speaker 1: wherein we dive deep into the history of this relatively
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  Speaker 1: whole marketing celebration.
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  Speaker 3: It's all Markeian for sure, but you know it's like,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we're gonna get into it, but in Germany
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  Speaker 3: it's just called Man's Day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's do it right now.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like it should just be a day of the week.
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  Speaker 2: Why not.
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  Speaker 3: There's a really cool article on the Rosetta Stone Blogs.
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  Speaker 2: You'll Remembermber Rosetta Stone.
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  Speaker 4: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I was actually an intense subscriber and also side note, folks,
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  Speaker 1: I did walk away from Duo Lingo with the not
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  Speaker 1: good quote AI stuff, but was like Pimslers back in
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  Speaker 1: the day.
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  Speaker 3: Rosetta Stone was also I just remember the big yellow boxes.
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  Speaker 3: And also it like I don't know, it had like
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  Speaker 3: it was giving Mayvis Beacon kind of vibes.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 3: It was like a golden age for tutorial software, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but big backlash against duo lingo.
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  Speaker 2: You're right.
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  Speaker 3: My kid actually told me about that, and I'm a
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  Speaker 3: little on the fence about it because it is sort
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  Speaker 3: of like a procedural thing that I could see parts
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  Speaker 3: of it being a reasonable use of AI.
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  Speaker 2: But anything anything.
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  Speaker 3: That removes the human element entirely from a thing that
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  Speaker 3: was founded on the human element, I do.
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  Speaker 1: It is a sticky It's a sticky situation, and the
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  Speaker 1: jimmy's a little little bit a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of the jimmy. So it's a So look,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to buy your father or the fathers
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  Speaker 1: in your life some kind of gift or recognition, our
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  Speaker 1: primary thesis here is that one doesn't need to wait
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  Speaker 1: for Father's Day. It is not a international agreed holiday.
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  Speaker 1: It's something that happens in different days, right, different parts
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  Speaker 1: of the calendar, in different parts of the world. As
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  Speaker 1: you were mentioning Noel, the German version monor dog.
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  Speaker 3: Is for actually be men are now if it's an o.
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  Speaker 3: It's an a umlaut. That would be men are men
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  Speaker 3: are talk literally like men?
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  Speaker 2: Or day do it?
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  Speaker 4: Do it one more time?
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  Speaker 2: Men are talk? There we go aka ascension day.
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  Speaker 4: Forty days after Easter?
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  Speaker 1: What is that?
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  Speaker 3: That's when then the Lord God ascended into heaven. Look,
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  Speaker 3: we're not calendar doctors called the sension day.
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  Speaker 2: So look the point is that's what happened. Okay, cool,
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  Speaker 2: thank you back for the facts.
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  Speaker 6: Yep, that seeking in the phone gets back and he's
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  Speaker 6: falling knowledge just for you right now here. Well, you're
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  Speaker 6: MAX with the facts.
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  Speaker 3: Forty days after Easter. It's indeed, Young Thorn Jesus, a
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  Speaker 3: young JC.
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  Speaker 2: Rolled a side stone in the I'm fairly stern on
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  Speaker 2: that one.
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  Speaker 3: Was it that way?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on the tape. You don't have
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  Speaker 2: to be. In fact. The second time, Oh, that's seeking.
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  Speaker 6: The phone gets back and he's falling knowledge just for
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  Speaker 6: your right now here, talking with the facts.
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  Speaker 2: It's still MAX with the facts. I think the factoids.
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  Speaker 2: Did I use factoids right?
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  Speaker 7: One time?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: The fact is that a third MAX with the facts
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  Speaker 2: right here.
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  Speaker 6: Oh that's the phone gets back and he's falling knowledge
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  Speaker 6: just for your right now here.
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  Speaker 2: Talking back with the facts.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, this.
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  Speaker 2: The troll if anything.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So, a factoid is something that appears.
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  Speaker 3: Be accurate and is not, and is often misused as
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  Speaker 3: like a micro fact because it sounds like it would
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  Speaker 3: be that, and I'm a little resentful And it's not
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  Speaker 3: because I do think a factoid sounds like a cute,
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  Speaker 3: little bite sized fact.
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  Speaker 2: It is not.
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  Speaker 4: I'm still learning English like Peru's non Peru right.
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  Speaker 1: Perus means both to scrutinize and to skim uh. It
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  Speaker 1: is a counter factual. It's a paradoxical word.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, wouldn't it be fun to try to learn English
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  Speaker 3: on an app like just see how they teach it
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  Speaker 3: to others?
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  Speaker 2: I would. I think that could be educational. I think
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  Speaker 2: it could be educational.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to give you next time we all
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  Speaker 1: hang out, I've got to give you, guys, my collection
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  Speaker 1: of foreign publications as travel guides to the United States.
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  Speaker 1: They are amazing, and they're pretty snarky. The German one
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  Speaker 1: is one of my favorites anyway. Germany, the way they
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  Speaker 1: do Men's Day forty days after Easter. It's not really
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  Speaker 1: about your family hanging out with you as a father.
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  Speaker 1: What it is more so is a bunch of dads
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  Speaker 1: get together and they go on a hike.
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  Speaker 4: They have bro.
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  Speaker 1: Hangs and they fun. Well, you know, they're Germans. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of beer on it. But apparently it goes
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  Speaker 1: back to the Middle Ages in Central and Western Europe,
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  Speaker 1: when guys were pulled via carts, which were you know,
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  Speaker 1: like a big deal at the time. Wagon situation right
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  Speaker 1: to the center of the village. It's like a little
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  Speaker 1: parade and everybody is celebrating them.
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  Speaker 3: And isn't there beer in the wagons as well? In
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  Speaker 3: the traditional version of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah then and now And if you are the guy
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  Speaker 1: in the village with the most children, most legitimate children
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  Speaker 1: by the way, uh, then respreader, Yeah you get a prize. Okay, cool,
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  Speaker 1: it is a small child.
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  Speaker 4: You get another child?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beer, is what it is? Now? I could,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. It's a ham. Oh
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  Speaker 2: you get a ham.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of like a small child. A small child
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  Speaker 3: and a ham way about the same.
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  Speaker 4: These are Noel Brown facts.
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  Speaker 2: Facts dare say.
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  Speaker 3: Uh. And apparently the amount of alcohol consumption uh is
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  Speaker 3: up there with the Big Binge drinking festival over there Octoberfest.
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  Speaker 3: But I will say, as a bit of a as
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  Speaker 3: one who was once a small Drummond boy and a
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  Speaker 3: bit of a Germanophile, been spending some time in Berlin
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  Speaker 3: these last few years.
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  Speaker 2: Drinking culture there is not unhinged at all.
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  Speaker 3: Like they let young people drink uh and and you
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  Speaker 3: can there's really no age restrictions for going into bars
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  Speaker 3: or places that serve exclude of the alcohol because there's
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  Speaker 3: a certain measured approach to drinking that I've seen, and
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  Speaker 3: everywhere I go, whatever the event is, it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 3: like it's an unhinged, boozy kind of country.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, it's not. It's not Bourbon Street by any means. Right,
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  Speaker 1: you will see people from old demographics sipping like a
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  Speaker 1: pilsner or a logger at lunch, and it's just like
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  Speaker 1: the way you might have a soda, you know.
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  Speaker 3: They're like they used to drink it back in the
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  Speaker 3: Middle Ages as it because everything else would have been feted.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's the right word, bad water, right, yeah, yeah, unclean.
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  Speaker 4: We we know.
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  Speaker 1: Also, we're we're all big fans of Germany as a country.
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  Speaker 3: Currently they're also currently apparently in mega doomsday prep mode.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about that on our recent Strange News episode
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  Speaker 3: of Stuff they Don't Want You to know, And I
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  Speaker 3: believe I made the observation that the Germans are nothing
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  Speaker 3: if not uh fastidious and prepared.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they are the atlas upon which NATO must stand.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: We also know that there are other Father's Day celebrations
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  Speaker 1: throughout the world.
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  Speaker 2: Japan.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, Japan, you want to do Japan?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, that is if i'm if I'm
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  Speaker 2: a Germanophile. I think you're a Japanophile.
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  Speaker 4: Do you mean a wiya boo?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I am a consummate tourist. Perhaps that's what we
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  Speaker 1: tell customs and Passport Control.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Japan with.
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  Speaker 3: A Costco card, thought it right.
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  Speaker 4: They won't even let my tote and chip slide. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: That's a joke for the few boy scouts in the crowd,
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  Speaker 1: all right. Japan has a thing on the third Sunday
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  Speaker 1: in June, so much more predictable than that weird ascension day,
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  Speaker 1: and still in June, and still in June.
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  Speaker 4: Great point. It is called Chee chee no height.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. This is where you will give a father in
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  Speaker 1: your life some flowers, some fancy food, some sweet desserts.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe some sake. And of course still they get clothing, ties, socks,
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  Speaker 1: they might get some sports items, calf cologne, perhaps cologne, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: what did you say, Ben? Cologne is meant to be discovered,
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  Speaker 1: not an ounce, not announced. I love that I've become
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a cologne guy myself lately.
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  Speaker 3: And Ben, I do love here the non gender treatment
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  Speaker 3: of flowers. It just seems like we think of it
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  Speaker 3: over here in the West. It's like something you give
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  Speaker 3: a lady or like to your date or to your mother.
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  Speaker 3: And I think flowers are for everybody. As someone who
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  Speaker 3: absolutely loves fresh cut.
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  Speaker 1: Flowers, that's interesting observation. Yeah, I feel like it's a
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  Speaker 1: decent housewarming present, right, because it's not you know, housewarmings
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  Speaker 1: in the US version are so fundamentally strange. It's like, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: you just moved to a new place. You had to
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  Speaker 1: move all your other possessions. Let me give you some stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Do you realize how much stuff you have?
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  Speaker 1: So let me give you another thing? Right, So, flowers
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  Speaker 1: being ephemeral are pretty cool. I gotta say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's this there's this drive I think in the in
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  Speaker 1: the human nature to acknowledge those folks who made your
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  Speaker 1: life possible, and that's why we see it. We see
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  Speaker 1: celebrations like Father's Day in Italy and the Philippines and
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  Speaker 1: India and France. Do you want to stick with Europe first?
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  Speaker 3: Gotta gotta do the Italy one, just because it's so
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  Speaker 3: fun to say. It is, which is celebrated on a
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  Speaker 3: religious holiday, Saint Joseph's Feast day, and this is not
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  Speaker 3: in June. This is March, March to nineteenth. So in
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  Speaker 3: this tradition we have young school children who actually write
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  Speaker 3: poems about their father, and it really hits home and
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  Speaker 3: emphasizes the idea of creating things like crafts and cards
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  Speaker 3: and drawings, which to me, I think are the ultimate gift.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if there's people out there that you
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  Speaker 3: want stuff, but I will take a homemade card or
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  Speaker 3: a beaded bracelet any day of the week.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate.
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  Speaker 1: I think homemade gifts are much better because really they
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  Speaker 1: are an exhibition of time and affection, and time and
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  Speaker 1: affection are the only true currencies of the world. We
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  Speaker 1: also got to shout out Saint Joseph, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: The reason it's all in Saint Joseph's Day in Italy
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  Speaker 1: is because Saint Joseph is, yes, the husband of the
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  Speaker 1: Virgin Mary and the legal, if not biological father of
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. So he's he's like the main earth dad,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And so that's that's great. And also again
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  Speaker 1: as we're going to see throughout this episode, uh, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of emphasis on getting together for a big
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  Speaker 1: family meal family.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: But Beto, now sorry, I think those close family style
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  Speaker 3: Italian dining is the best. And there's some really great spots.
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  Speaker 3: There's a whole little Italian kind of compound here in
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  Speaker 3: Atlanta near Georgia Tech where they have Anticho Pizza and
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  Speaker 3: which is really good Neapolitan style pizza.
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  Speaker 2: And then they also in that same you know compound
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  Speaker 2: thing have.
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  Speaker 3: A really good uh gelato place and an excellent family
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  Speaker 3: style byo b Roasted chicken place forgetting the name.
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  Speaker 2: Of now, but boy is it good.
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  Speaker 3: You can get like a like a spicy kind of
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  Speaker 3: blood orange infused roasted chicken.
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  Speaker 1: So I love that stuff. Let's also, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: while we're talking about Italy, the you know, the foundational
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  Speaker 1: place of Catholicism. Currently, let's stay Catholic. No, let's go
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  Speaker 1: to the Philippines.
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  Speaker 3: But really quickly, Ben, I just do want to point
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  Speaker 3: out that this family style meal might not be a
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  Speaker 3: roasted chicken or a giant a pile of meatballs seafood
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  Speaker 3: because they would well yeah, yeah for sure, or potentially
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  Speaker 3: meatless because they it happens during length during the Italian season,
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  Speaker 3: happens during length, so potentially.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't count as meat though, that is true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, pescatarian, but you're right, that doesn't count.
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  Speaker 3: Them's the rules. So yeah, sorry, Ben, Let's go to
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  Speaker 3: the Philippines, like you.
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  Speaker 4: Were saying, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The Philippines strong Catholic culture. Father's Day is a big
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  Speaker 1: deal holiday there. It was introduced not through the Spanish occupation,
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  Speaker 1: but through American culture, US culture, and it is celebrated
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  Speaker 1: on the third Sunday of June. It's very food based,
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  Speaker 1: and I got to tell you, if you've ever had
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  Speaker 1: the chance, or if you ever have the chance to
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  Speaker 1: meet a lola in someone who can cook Filipino food,
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  Speaker 1: you need to do your best to get on their
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  Speaker 1: good side and get invited to that cookout. You'll get
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  Speaker 1: the latron, you'll get the adobo. It's amazing. They're like
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  Speaker 1: the lumpia by the way, have you ever had things right,
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  Speaker 1: very very good little cigars?
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  Speaker 3: Now they're so good, they're a little tighter wrapped. In
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  Speaker 3: my hometown, Augusta, Georgia, they have like a big arts
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  Speaker 3: festival every year and they have like the different nationality
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  Speaker 3: food stands in the Filipino booth always a hot ticket
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  Speaker 3: because they make some excellent food. I believe the cari kari,
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  Speaker 3: which is like a peanut based stew. Any of those
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  Speaker 3: little glass noodle kind of situations are really great. And
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  Speaker 3: Lashan you mentioned being like a barbecue pork that would
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  Speaker 3: be roasted on a spit, super super wonderful food. We
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  Speaker 3: got some good Filipino food options here in Atlanta's well,
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  Speaker 3: why don't we take it to Sweden pen for fars dog.
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  Speaker 1: Dog exactly second Sunday in November.
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  Speaker 4: Right, this is uh.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, we're moving farther and farther away from June.
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  Speaker 4: You know what people are gonna people.
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  Speaker 1: This is again a situation where you see the father's
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  Speaker 1: being celebrated. Starts around the turn of the twentieth century,
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  Speaker 1: so early nineteen hundred's fathers get cakes and they get
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  Speaker 1: they get books that they may or may not read.
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  Speaker 1: No shade and they get ties. And the thing is,
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  Speaker 1: Sweden culturally leans into the idea of getting the same
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  Speaker 1: gift over and over.
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  Speaker 2: So if it's a humor of the Swedes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, very dry sense of humor. You could
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  Speaker 1: tell by their cuisine. I said, it don't cut it.
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  Speaker 1: So the idea is that as you grow as a
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  Speaker 1: patter familius, you get ties every year, and you get
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  Speaker 1: more and more ties as you age.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so many ties.
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  Speaker 3: That necessitates an entire rack, you know, and perhaps an
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  Speaker 3: electric ty rack, you know, where you can kind of
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  Speaker 3: like the library of ties.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: You know, remember the electric tyracts? People still have those?
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Is that a real thing? Absolutely?
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: That would have been a hugely popular Father's Day gift
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: back in the day. It's like a Sharper image type thing. Okay,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: see electric tie rack. It's sort of like a conveyor
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: belt of ties and they hang down and go around
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: in a sort of a ellipse, an elliptical orbit, the
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: electric diract. It reminds me of an episode of Mister
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Show about megaphone crooning. It's like a documentary about the
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: golden age of megaphone crooning, and the two crooners featured
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: have to keep coming up with new inventions to croon about, and.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: One of them was electric tyrack. It's so nice move
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: that ties from side to side.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I like the best parton that goes electric tyract baby
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: it loves it, or racking up electric ties, which doesn't
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: make any sense because the ties a lot electric.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I heard it. There's some bars there. We also know
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: that the third Sunday of June is when Costa Rica
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: celebrates Father's Day, and they did so by adopting the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: US custom in there again to the importance and I
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: think we're all agreed here. Handmade gifts are better than
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: stuff you buy, so children in Costa Rica will make
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: gifts for their dads. And again you gotta have the
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: big family meal, so you get your gayo pento, you
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: get your casado. Uh, this is one of my favorite parts. Actually, no,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: because I've seen this.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: The kids will do like a song, dance or a
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Quick Conner show.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Is there a theme around it is just something related
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: to the honoring of the final man.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Have you ever been to like children's theatrical performance?
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Depending well, as you've been interview, I know that for sure.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: But in Germany.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I do remember puppets were huge puppet theater for kids,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: and marionettes.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: And stuff were really really big, So I do remember that.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: And of course I've participated in like, you know, church
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: camp kind of things.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: So a brief tangent about my own patter familias many
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: years ago. Colonel, you know, the colonel they call him
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: not Kurt's hashtag, no Kurtz, I hope, but I don't
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: know too much about him. Uh he uh. He decided
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to uh do ride share stuff for a few years,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: and he was absolutely terrible at it because he wasn't
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: in a hurry and he.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Ordered to chat.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he just wanted to hang out.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: And so I've had I've gotten a few of those
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: as the uber driver from time to time.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: It's definitely a type, right, Yeah, it's doing it for
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: different reasons that doing it for the gig economy.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: So here's the story.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he clearly didn't need the money or the mission,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: but he met someone who was in a hurry to
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: see her grand nieces recital like a child, right, and
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: they were doing skits and they were doing a little
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: dancing or whatever, and this absolute legend says, yeah, okay,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I'll go with you because the lady is worried you
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: shall have to go alone. So he just shows up
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and uh, without getting any too many specifics here or
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: giving too many specifics. He is not the demographic and
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: now he's friends with everybody in that auditorium.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Of course he is. He is an abooliant fellow. I
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: love that story.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Ben.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I did recently go to like an elementary school pageant
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: type play where all of the kids were different barnyard animals.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: And boy was it cute, and boy was the sound horrible.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: What was your favorite animal?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Well, of course my other child, uh, not really directly,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: but my kid's baby Sis, who was basically frontons and purposes.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: My other kid was a was a pig. And the
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: joke in the song was that the pigs were really
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: neat and tidy. They were really tidy, fastidious pigs, fastidious brilliance.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: You're killing it today.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Like the Germans.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Your welcome bucker root.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: If you are familiar with the diaspora of South Asia
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and the Indian subcontinent, then you will probably recognize this.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: The third Sunday in June is Father's Day in many
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: major cities of India. Now India is huge. India's culture
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: is ancient. This is again an adaptation of the concept
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: of Father's Day as originating in the United States. Again,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: if you're the dad in an Indian family, you'll get
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: some books. You'll get flowers, which I think we both
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: agree is very cool, handmade car shirts, you get a cake.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: People bake a cake. There will be some special prayers
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: said on your behalf, which I think is cool. I
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: suspect strongly correct us here if we're off base. I
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: suspect there were a lot of prayers given to fathers
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: in Italy and Japan as well.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Oh especially yeah, of course during war time, no question
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: about it. And can I just say that the chuckle
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: that you heard from Ben was my actual child walking
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: past behind me and then me giving them the finger,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: because that's just how we roll. It was a good
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: natured finger.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I saw you both smiling.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: There was definitely smiling for sure. Nah, love that kid,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: and I expect an epic gift.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Speaking of which Ben, in this Rosetta Stone blog piece
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: that we are not shilling for Rosetta Stone, it ends
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: with a way of saying Happy Father's Day and tons
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: of different different languages which we are totally not going
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: to do, lest we humiliate ourselves and butcher the language
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: at hand. But I was just wondering, Ben, I had
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: a couple of things that I wanted to throw in,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: maybe as some action items for folks waiting till the
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: last minute for getting their father Father's Day gift recom
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I know that you had a couple things in your.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Back pocket too, So which orders shall we take it in?
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: No hop in the driver's seat for this one. I'm
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: very interested in hearing your ideas because I'd also love
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: a little bit of your council.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not my counsel, Ben, I'm referring to a
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: BuzzFeed list to call it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: All right, thank you, Nola.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I will say, though there's something on here this is
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: particular to our topic at hand or the genre of
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: It's fourteen Father's Day Gifts every history bus.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Dad secretly once and it just gave me some ideas
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: because I do remember, you know, my dad really did
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: love like history. So you might consider this book eighteen
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: sixty one, The Lost Piece by Jay Winnick about the
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Civil War. It is apparently a delights and a very
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: well written book and a New York Times bestseller, as
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: it turns out, one that I love from this list
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: though that I have thought about before, that kind of
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: falls squarely in that dad gift kind of thing, but
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: it's a little more creative. Is a fancy fountain pen.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Ah, Yes, the fancy fountain.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Pen, one that you can get little nubbins for like
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: it just you know, you don't. It's not disposable. It's
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: like one that you would It's like a nice thing
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: that you would cherish and remember who gave it to you.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: A rolex of pens, rightly, perhaps.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: You definitely could go that route. And I don't know
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: if you're in on the world of luxury pens, but
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: it is a pretty broad spectrum of like how much
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: you want to pay. You could get one super nice
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: that they've recommended hereby Scrivnier, a London company, for about
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: forty five bucks.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Scrivener's on the low end, by the way, That's exactly
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: it would seem so.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: But it does look very nice. And I have a
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: fountain pen that takes these little cartridges that I quite enjoyed,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: and as well, how do you feel about custom mugs?
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Ben Custom Mugs True.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Story one of my absolute legendary cousins told my one
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: of my many shady uncles, told him that he was
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: going to be a grandfather. On Father's Day, she got
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: him a mug that said best granddad ever. And then
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: she said, we are not taking questions because my family
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: is very strange.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Everybody all got him.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Then we've all got the odd balls, and then everybody's
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: doing strange. Excuse me, Well, we'll keep that back. Everybody's
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: doing well, including uncle Fireworks. I still don't know what
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that guy does.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Who are we talking about?
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: My uncle, my shady uncle who found out that he
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: was a grandfather.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: That is his nickname. Yeah, fireworks.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: See a bit of a pyromaniac as he likes to
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: do fireworks.
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: I mean that'd be a simple guest right there.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Well, he told me that he is involved with fireworks
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: in China.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I had an uncle, but he was more into firewater.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Fire water, I see.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: And then I had one more just to honor our pal,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: aj Bahamas Jacobs, the puzzler and something that we talk
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: about both on this show and our sister podcast. Stuff
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. It's a real catch
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: all for all of these things. There is a five
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: hundred piece puzzle of banned books.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Oh that's beautiful. Yeah, shout out to our buddy Roy
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Wood Junior. By the way, guy loves puzzles. That's the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: only thing I talked with him about. You do you
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: like getting a puzzle as a gift.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: It feels a bit like getting a homework assignment. It's
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: not my favorite, but I do think there are people
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: out there that love it. And this one features sixty
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: five different books that have at one point or another
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: been banned, including a lot of, as the BuzzFeed listical
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: points out, historically underrepresented authors. How many pieces in the
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: puzzle five hundred? Oh, so that's actually a pretty respectable number.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Some of the books here are like more modern ones,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: like The Hate You Get, which was pretty controversial, the
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: sixteen nineteen project. This book is gay ghost Boys, Catcher
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: in the Rye. You know, the obvious hits, things like
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: that to Kill a Mockingbird. But someone's here that I'm
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: not super familiar with, and it's actually The Kite Runner.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Didn't you know that was controversial?
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Got it? Interesting?
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Well, I think this is a little something for all
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: the history buff and puzzlers.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Nice, nice, well, Noel brought it back now before we uh,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: before we wrap up and go to our various celebrations.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Max, you had something to add.
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: Here, of course, because you know, while ridiculous royal deaths
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: might be over, we can still talk about them some.
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: And I was just kind of digging around because when
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: we're doing this topic, for some reason, my brain went
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: instantly to John the baby.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Maker and Yoko.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Forget John classic, who else.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: Has had a lot of children? And this one I
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: think is pretty hilarious. But Henry One had twenty seven children.
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: So who Henry One was is? He was King of
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: England eleven hundred to eleven thirty five.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: He was one.
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: I think he was the third son of William the Conqueror,
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: And if you remember, William Conqueror's eldest son was at
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: constant war with him, like literally they were trying to
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: kill each other across the first Channel. The second son
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: went out hunting and got shot with an arrow and then.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Huh in the knee, not the knee.
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: But also you know that's actually just reality. This Tyan
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: references say getting married exactly, it's like a shot on
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: the knee, That's what that's what it actually means, Like yeah, yeah,
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: I found that one out like not that long. I'm like, oh, okay,
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: that makes sense. But uh now the William Rufus, the
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: first one he became king, he got shot with an
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: arrow and his brother was like already halfway there back
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: to the castle by the time he got shot with
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: an arrow. And this guy, Henry One his son, is
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: the one who got like super drunk and basically when
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: I enjoy ride in a boat and crashed it and died.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: This guy, by the way, he had twenty seven children.
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: Twenty seven children, almost all them illegitimate, and he's the
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: one who died from eating lampreys.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: All right, so get that man a Ham.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Celebrate the village right, Once you've had a lampreys, you
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: can't go back to Ham. Sorry, Ham doesn't wriggle around
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: in your gutties.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Hilarious.
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: It's like from all the stories, like it was so
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: obvious that he was a lurser to them, and everyone's
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: also like they're also really disgusting. This guy just loves
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: them in your opinion, right, no, no, in their opinion.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Might I've never had a lamprey?
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: And folks with that, please please please remember that everyone
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: is imperfect right and the Again, as we said at
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the top, the course of true love never does run smooth.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: If you are lucky enough to be able to contact
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: your father or your mother for that matter, then please
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: do so. You don't have to wait for a specific day.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: It happens all the time all around the world.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: And can I just make a quick Morrissey ref friends
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Steven though that guy's dead to us. The Smiths are
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: not Johnny mar Rules. They have a song called please
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Please Please let me get what I want, and I
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: would add for Father's.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Day and again yes, well said, and again you know.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: The thing I want to hit here is that you
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: don't need a specific day. The fact that Hollmark has
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: commercialized specific times to celebrate a thing does not make
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: that celebration itself inherently invalid. We are so glad that
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: you hung out with us here. We hope that you
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: will tell your dad or tell your kids to tune
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: into the show, because every little rating helps us just
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: a tad our corporate daddies will occasionally write a good
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: letter to us and tell us we won't get fired,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: So please please please help us out. Shout out to
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the Smiths with the caveats that Noel described. Shout out
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: as well to our super producer mister Max Williams. Shout
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: out to our friends at well Balanced dot com, at
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: BuzzFeed and of course at Rosetta Stone and.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Oh Man aj Bahamas Jacobs.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: That guy.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: He's a great dad.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: By the way, He's just such a minch, you know.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I apparently we're going to be seeing a little more
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: of him since his son just got into Emory, as
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: he mentioned last on this show.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: And I think there I saw Instagram post. I think
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: the cowboy hats.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Of course, I pitched him an idea, uh for you
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: can find Aj on Instagram.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: You can find uh most of us there.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I pitched an idea for his next book, The Year
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: of Living Cowboy. We'll see if it uh, we'll see
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: where he goes with it. Also again uh, requisite contractually
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: obligated shout out to Jonathan Strickland aka the Quist.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a he's a dog dad tibble. He's got
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: a little Doug of course, named after a Shakespearean of course.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Of course, we also mentioned the Jonathan Strickland's father wrote
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: the Wishbone series for kids. I think that's great and
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: also it was a pretty well regarded fantasy and science
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: fiction writer. So happy Father's Day to Brad Strickland, right right,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: not Jonathan Jonathan. If you're hearing this, we're shouting out
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: your father, not Jonathan's.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: No one's father.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Jesus right God.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I hope it's very clear that we really like Jonathan's.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: We actually is the best.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we we text each other pretty often. Actually, A
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: big shout out, of course to the rude dudes of
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime, to Alex Williams who composed this slap and bop,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: big big shout out to you know, not just the fathers,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: but all the kids in the audience.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: And big shout out to the colonel and to you Ben.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: We'll see you next time, folks.
• 36:01
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• 36:05
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