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Saga Book Club #11 - Volume 11 · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:02
  Tad Eggleston: Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to the Saga Book Club on 22 panels. I have Matt, I have Belle, I have Marisol, I have Psychocomicology's Lee Woods.
• 0:14
  Tad Eggleston: Also, Modern Age Comics, Lee Woods.
• 0:17
  Tad Eggleston: He wears a couple of different hats.
• 0:20
  Matt: And you need to consider So, like, we can hit, like, an applause button when you.
• 0:26
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I think about it.
• 0:29
  Tad Eggleston: Maybe one day.
• 0:30
  belle price: That would be so charming.
• 0:31
  Matt: Wow!
• 0:32
  Tad Eggleston: I have a good keyboard that I keep meaning to move into the closet that's just at my left.
• 0:38
  Tad Eggleston: And then I could, like, wire it into the computer and do funny stuff.
• 0:43
  Tad Eggleston: But… but that hasn't happened yet. One day.
• 0:49
  Tad Eggleston: One day I will become cool.
• 0:52
  Tad Eggleston: Maybe.
• 0:54
  Tad Eggleston: Probably not.
• 0:56
  Tad Eggleston: I think the coolness ship Sailed a long time ago.
• 1:01
  Tad Eggleston: But anyway… Saga, Volume 11.
• 1:06
  Tad Eggleston: And I have to start with, this is just, like, the most kick-ass cover.
• 1:13
  Marisol: It's possible.
• 1:15
  belle price: Oh, yeah.
• 1:16
  Tad Eggleston: Ugh.
• 1:19
  Tad Eggleston: It's… it's… it's just… totally, totally, like, the intensity that Hazel is showing.
• 1:28
  belle price: Oh my god, I just had a thought. Do you think that the volumes are the age that she is?
• 1:33
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know that they are, because we had… we've had two… like, time jumps.
• 1:41
  Matt: Yup.
• 1:43
  belle price: Right.
• 1:44
  Matt: But some of them might coincide.
• 1:46
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, they're, they're, like, I think most of the time in the ballpark?
• 1:54
  Tad Eggleston: But, you know, we had a time jump,
• 2:03
  Tad Eggleston: Was it between Volume 2 and 3, or was it between… yeah, between Volumes 2 and 3.
• 2:08
  Tad Eggleston: You know, she went from, like, infant to toddler.
• 2:12
  Tad Eggleston: And then we had another time jump After Marco died.
• 2:19
  Tad Eggleston: So, I, I think…
• 2:24
  Matt: copy.
• 2:25
  Tad Eggleston: Right. But she wasn't 9 at that point, I think she was closer to, like…
• 2:31
  Tad Eggleston: 7 or 8, when he died.
• 2:34
  Tad Eggleston: And I feel like she's 12 or 13 now. I don't remember…
• 2:38
  Matt: End.
• 2:40
  Matt: of Volume 9. She was that age.
• 2:43
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 2:44
  Tad Eggleston: I don't remember if they actually give us an age at any point.
• 2:48
  Matt: Yeah, I don't either.
• 2:49
  Matt: It's an interesting thought, though.
• 2:51
  belle price: She's in middle school now?
• 2:53
  Matt: Ish, yeah.
• 2:54
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, as much as… as much as she, like…
• 2:57
  Tad Eggleston: does school, yeah, I'd picture her as a middle schooler, like a 7th or 8th grader.
• 3:03
  belle price: Okay.
• 3:06
  Tad Eggleston: Just old enough to think that she knows shit.
• 3:10
  Lee Woods: Yeah.
• 3:10
  Matt: I'm finally old enough to know I don't know shit.
• 3:15
  Lee Woods: I had a real thought of that.
• 3:17
  Lee Woods: Squad.
• 3:18
  Tad Eggleston: Squire definitely, definitely is, is, is, like… Getting into that.
• 3:28
  Tad Eggleston: I… I know shit.
• 3:32
  Marisol: Oh, yeah.
• 3:33
  Marisol: I love his little ACAB shirt.
• 3:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 3:36
  Matt: Yeah.
• 3:37
  Marisol: It was beautiful.
• 3:44
  belle price: I did not notice that until right now, shut up, that's so great.
• 3:48
  Tad Eggleston: now?
• 3:49
  belle price: And also…
• 3:50
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean…
• 3:51
  Marisol: It's concerning that we're seeing him, like, form his own, you know, literal handgun for the first time.
• 3:57
  Matt: Oh yeah, that too, that's great.
• 4:00
  belle price: That's awk.
• 4:00
  Tad Eggleston: I mean… great.
• 4:02
  Tad Eggleston: is, I guess, one word for it.
• 4:07
  Matt: But it makes you realize that not all robots can do that, only royalty can.
• 4:11
  Lee Woods: Hmm.
• 4:11
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah…
• 4:16
  belle price: It's sick.
• 4:19
  Marisol: Also, this ship just being a giant…
• 4:21
  Matt: Fucking camera.
• 4:22
  Marisol: It's hilarious.
• 4:23
  Matt: Oh, that one.
• 4:24
  belle price: Oh, yeah, that was a great.
• 4:25
  Tad Eggleston: Polaroid.
• 4:26
  Marisol: The Polaroid. Yeah.
• 4:29
  belle price: And it's a cruise ship, is my favorite.
• 4:32
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 4:33
  Marisol: So funny.
• 4:34
  belle price: I love that, the vibe.
• 4:37
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, I think part of the reason is that, like, Fiona doesn't really like drawing… like…
• 4:47
  Matt: mechanical leak.
• 4:48
  Tad Eggleston: mechanical things, like, she… she's not big on cars, she doesn't want to do your typical spaceship, so from the get-go, it was finding ways to…
• 4:59
  Tad Eggleston: To make it more interesting for her.
• 5:03
  Tad Eggleston: I do love the return of Petrichor.
• 5:06
  Matt: Bye.
• 5:07
  Marisol: Yes.
• 5:08
  belle price: so much.
• 5:10
  belle price: It was a.
• 5:11
  Marisol: I think the bad bitch of the series.
• 5:13
  belle price: Yes.
• 5:16
  belle price: Yes.
• 5:18
  Marisol: I want that… I want that frame as a poster in my bedroom of her coming through that portal with the mask and everything. This one, yes, yes.
• 5:26
  Matt: without ones.
• 5:29
  Marisol: Yeah, without the little word balloons, just to have just the standalone image.
• 5:40
  Marisol: That'd be so cool.
• 5:42
  belle price: I need the…
• 5:43
  Marisol: them to sell prints of the frames and the individual panels. I mean…
• 5:48
  Tad Eggleston: They mostly just do covers, unfortunately, but they do sell prints. Damn it. They have a threadless store.
• 5:55
  Matt: I think it's sad that she works digitally and can't sell original art.
• 5:59
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I mean… But I don't know if she could…
• 6:05
  Tad Eggleston: I don't… I think the look of Saga requires her to work…
• 6:10
  Matt: No, I get it.
• 6:10
  Tad Eggleston: Digitally.
• 6:12
  Tad Eggleston: But it does open up the ability to easily do lots of prints.
• 6:21
  Marisol: Yes, that's true.
• 6:23
  Tad Eggleston: So, ho- hopefully…
• 6:25
  Matt: She hasn't pulled her on her time yet, though, so she's not gonna do that.
• 6:29
  Tad Eggleston: They're… they're convinced… what, she hasn't what?
• 6:31
  Matt: Falling on hard times.
• 6:34
  Tad Eggleston: Well, also, they just don't have time to think about it yet.
• 6:38
  Matt: I'm sure. They're probably very busy.
• 6:43
  Tad Eggleston: I mean… BKV is either writing this or, you know, Dune.
• 6:51
  Tad Eggleston: and… and… she's… Drawing this, or raising children.
• 6:58
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, he's also raising children, but… Hers are younger right now.
• 7:04
  Matt: Yeah, and it's different for the mom.
• 7:05
  Tad Eggleston: It is.
• 7:08
  Tad Eggleston: Most of the time.
• 7:11
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I immediately took a dislike to the pawn shop owner.
• 7:20
  Tad Eggleston: Even though she's initially made out to, like, be friendly.
• 7:25
  belle price: I don't like her.
• 7:26
  Marisol: You know…
• 7:27
  Tad Eggleston: Like, even before we got into the other stuff.
• 7:31
  belle price: just this panel at the bottom with her kind of off-kilter is, like, very unsettling. Like, that.
• 7:37
  Tad Eggleston: That one, but honestly, the one where she's… the one where she's drooling over the ring.
• 7:43
  belle price: is the one where I'm like.
• 7:44
  Tad Eggleston: N-na-na-na-na-na-na-na.
• 7:50
  Tad Eggleston: - now…
• 7:52
  belle price: What's the body language at the top, too. This whole page, really, is, like, all of her…
• 7:58
  Marisol: It's suspicious.
• 7:59
  belle price: Yeah, she's sus.
• 8:01
  Lee Woods: Yeah.
• 8:02
  Tad Eggleston: But this is one of those… What?
• 8:04
  Lee Woods: Like I said, I definitely felt uneasy with her, but I don't know if I really disliked her.
• 8:10
  Lee Woods: Now that I think about it.
• 8:12
  Tad Eggleston: Well, that's… that's fair.
• 8:15
  Tad Eggleston: like, you can tell that Hazel's immediately intrigued by her.
• 8:20
  Tad Eggleston: And, and, and… I mean, obviously intrigued by what she's offering, but like…
• 8:27
  Tad Eggleston: Also, in no way, shape, or form, like… doesn't trust.
• 8:36
  Tad Eggleston: And then… then we gotta go through this again.
• 8:42
  Tad Eggleston: Which, I guess it makes sense to see the falling out with Petracor.
• 8:48
  Tad Eggleston: So it also is… like, I have never been more proud of Alana than when she's saying.
• 8:55
  Tad Eggleston: Spend the rest of my life going after…
• 9:01
  Tad Eggleston: Revenge? Are you insane? There's nothing he would want less.
• 9:08
  Tad Eggleston: That's not the life we want to give our kids.
• 9:17
  Lee Woods: That was a brutal reminder, at least for me, like…
• 9:22
  Lee Woods: even, like, kind of on the second read-through of, like, oh, yeah, I just remember…
• 9:27
  Lee Woods: Marco being impaled, like, I remember the hole in the chest, but I completely forgot they did, like, they beheaded him.
• 9:34
  Lee Woods: I was like.
• 9:35
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, we didn't see them behead them… behead him, we just saw them fuck by his skull.
• 9:40
  Lee Woods: Yeah. Yeah.
• 9:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, which is, which is an.
• 9:44
  Marisol: An unsettling image in and of itself, like… I mean, we're not…
• 9:49
  belle price: Orange.
• 9:50
  Tad Eggleston: Shaddling.
• 9:50
  Marisol: But we're more.
• 9:51
  belle price: It's like salt in the wound.
• 9:52
  Marisol: question.
• 9:53
  Matt: John can't shame, Marisol.
• 9:56
  Marisol: Yeah, kink shaming, I'm kink questioning at the best.
• 9:59
  Tad Eggleston: No, no, that's the one kink shame I'll do.
• 10:03
  Tad Eggleston: Fucking in front of the skull of your ex-fiance? Not cool.
• 10:09
  Matt: Okay, so is it just because it's Marco's skull, or would a different skull be okay?
• 10:13
  belle price: She's fine.
• 10:14
  Tad Eggleston: I actually… I'm gonna say any skull.
• 10:17
  belle price: That'd be a real question.
• 10:17
  Tad Eggleston: That is… that is freshly…
• 10:20
  Tad Eggleston: severed. Like, if you took the skull, you shouldn't be fucking in front of it. Like, if you got a skull… I mean, that just leads to the question.
• 10:28
  Marisol: of where you've got it.
• 10:29
  Tad Eggleston: Antique skulls…
• 10:31
  belle price: Skull source!
• 10:32
  Tad Eggleston: What happened?
• 10:33
  Marisol: Yes!
• 10:33
  Matt: Check your privilege.
• 10:34
  Marisol: Is yours…
• 10:34
  Matt: Let's goal.
• 10:35
  Marisol: Ethically sourced?
• 10:36
  Matt: I don't think so!
• 10:38
  belle price: Vegan skull?
• 10:39
  Matt: studio apartment?
• 10:40
  Tad Eggleston: We need ethically sourced skulls.
• 10:45
  Marisol: No, no, damn well that wasn't. Put it back.
• 10:49
  belle price: Oh, okay.
• 10:49
  Tad Eggleston: Only ethically sourced skulls can be fucked next to.
• 10:57
  Matt: Amazingly.
• 11:00
  Matt: I love it.
• 11:01
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, technically, all skulls are sustainable, because, like, as long as there are people, you can get more skulls.
• 11:09
  Marisol: This is true.
• 11:10
  belle price: What about, like, the vegan question of it all, you know?
• 11:13
  Tad Eggleston: Well, this is what I'm saying. Ethically harvested.
• 11:16
  Marisol: I have to have died.
• 11:18
  Tad Eggleston: of natural causes… Or because somebody else killed them.
• 11:22
  Matt: Murder is a natural cause!
• 11:25
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but.
• 11:26
  Marisol: I mean, you're not wrong, but I don't like it.
• 11:33
  Matt: Too funny.
• 11:37
  Marisol: Oh, man.
• 11:38
  Tad Eggleston: If you murdered them, just know.
• 11:43
  Tad Eggleston: That… that's too far.
• 11:46
  Matt: When you order for a living.
• 11:48
  Matt: It's gotta be kind of hard.
• 11:50
  Tad Eggleston: Now, if…
• 11:51
  Matt: 40 years old.
• 11:52
  Tad Eggleston: The Will wanted a side hustle, where he sold skulls to people who had that kink.
• 12:00
  Matt: So it's okay to be a skull supplier.
• 12:02
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, you don't want to be wasteful. I mean, seriously.
• 12:06
  belle price: He left…
• 12:06
  Tad Eggleston: It's a whole body for them to find. What other things could he have done with that body? I mean, it had a nice hole on it. Hole in it. I'm certain they would have given him money at Sextillion for that body.
• 12:16
  Matt: Probably.
• 12:17
  belle price: Oh my god, the way that Lee… this is my favorite, because that's how I feel as well.
• 12:25
  Lee Woods: I've just…
• 12:26
  Matt: That kind of makes sense.
• 12:28
  Lee Woods: I could even go as far as to say, okay, like, the skull taking, and
• 12:33
  Lee Woods: sex with the school president. I was like, okay…
• 12:36
  Lee Woods: Culturally, like, there was a time, like, Vikings and things and pirates, like, okay, culturally appropriate, sure, looking back at it, but we just keep going. I can't…
• 12:47
  Tad Eggleston: But what do you know about intergalactic cultures, Lee?
• 12:53
  Lee Woods: Do what?
• 12:53
  Tad Eggleston: Do you study intergalactic cultures?
• 12:55
  Lee Woods: You know what? That is a blind spot for me.
• 12:58
  belle price: Oh my gosh!
• 13:02
  Lee Woods: Ophelia, let's just keep going with that.
• 13:07
  Tad Eggleston: Somebody else change the subject, please.
• 13:12
  Marisol: Hazel, you guys!
• 13:13
  belle price: We're not even on that page, we're looking through the beaded curtain!
• 13:17
  belle price: Bill.
• 13:18
  Marisol: Yes.
• 13:18
  belle price: Okay.
• 13:19
  Marisol: eavesdropping along with Hazel in figuring out that maybe there is a way to bring back Marco and Sir Robot.
• 13:26
  Matt: The skullfucking was in the previous volume.
• 13:29
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it wasn't even it.
• 13:30
  Marisol: That's true.
• 13:30
  Matt: It wasn't even this volume!
• 13:33
  Tad Eggleston: But Bell missed it, so, I mean…
• 13:35
  belle price: We were so close to moving on.
• 13:39
  Marisol: I'm trying here.
• 13:41
  Tad Eggleston: And to be fair, Matt, there was no skull fire.
• 13:44
  Matt: Well, you know what?
• 13:46
  Tad Eggleston: In front of us.
• 13:49
  Tad Eggleston: And it's straight!
• 13:54
  Lee Woods: So, here's my attempt to try to change the subject.
• 13:57
  Marisol: Yeah, someone else try.
• 13:59
  Marisol: You have better.
• 14:00
  Lee Woods: Well, I would like to know for, like, those that read, like, that last panel regarding,
• 14:07
  Lee Woods: Bringing Marco back.
• 14:10
  Lee Woods: What was your initial response to that? Was it like, yeah, like.
• 14:15
  Lee Woods: let's bring back that possibility, or did you feel for, I can't believe I'm blanking on the name right now. Alana.
• 14:22
  Lee Woods: did you agree with Lana to be like, no, let's not do that? Like, what was your initial response?
• 14:26
  Marisol: Oh, I immediately… I immediately thought it was a trick.
• 14:29
  Matt: Yeah, yeah, I was…
• 14:30
  Marisol: There is no way… Yeah.
• 14:33
  Marisol: There's a convenient way, magically, to bring someone back from the dead as they were.
• 14:40
  Lee Woods: Right.
• 14:40
  Marisol: And not as some sort of… soulless corpse, shambling about.
• 14:47
  Tad Eggleston: I… I was very much… It was too good to be true.
• 14:50
  Tad Eggleston: very much in the danger Will Robinson, this way lies only heartbreak.
• 14:58
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 15:01
  belle price: It was kind of like, it was…
• 15:03
  belle price: it was, like, kind of… I wanted to believe it, I really did, but what Alana called bullshit, I was like, yeah. But especially because of the other panels of where she was, like, kind of being suspicious, I was like, okay, like, with that buildup, yes.
• 15:15
  belle price: But, like, honestly, I felt for Hazel, and how she reacted.
• 15:20
  Tad Eggleston: It's like, that's also a reason.
• 15:21
  belle price: bill.
• 15:22
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I think there was, like, a split second where I really, really hoped.
• 15:26
  Tad Eggleston: Particularly when she had this… this explanation that went against what…
• 15:33
  Tad Eggleston: what Marco had said about curing death, But… I also went, like…
• 15:42
  Tad Eggleston: Turning back time that far also seems really problematic.
• 15:48
  Marisol: Yeah… I guess one…
• 15:52
  Tad Eggleston: It's something to go back a few seconds in time, but, like, years?
• 15:58
  Matt: Yeah, exactly. Oh, but you need a lot of the stuff, and then I can do it.
• 16:02
  Tad Eggleston: Right… Yeah…
• 16:08
  Lee Woods: Yeah, because I initially was like, yeah, let's bring Marco back. Obviously, he was one of my favorite characters before, and like, so, like, I definitely had that glimmer of hope. It's like, yeah, let's chance it. But now that I'm thinking about it, I don't know my first read-through where I was in terms of, like, the Game of Thrones lore.
• 16:28
  Lee Woods: For those of you that remember The Witch, and specifically, but…
• 16:34
  Lee Woods: I'm also, like, the Fullmetal Alchemist is, like, even if you brought them back, they wouldn't be the same.
• 16:39
  Lee Woods: Right. So, like, at least in my head, after they denied it. Because, yeah, I agree with y'all, like, it definitely, like, on the second read-through, seems like a ruse, for sure.
• 16:49
  Tad Eggleston: Well, also, having read enough Brian K. Vaughan in my life, I just didn't believe that, like, that was something he'd do. Particularly not, like.
• 17:00
  Tad Eggleston: In a simple way.
• 17:04
  Matt: the volume starts with Marco.
• 17:08
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 17:08
  Matt: He's been brought back for us.
• 17:11
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 17:11
  Matt: That's like planning this.
• 17:12
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, we were totally set up to want to have.
• 17:16
  Matt: him go.
• 17:16
  Tad Eggleston: back.
• 17:17
  Matt: Yup, it's, like, brilliant.
• 17:20
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, even though we saw him proposing to Gwendolyn.
• 17:24
  Matt: Without him.
• 17:25
  Tad Eggleston: rig. Right.
• 17:26
  Matt: It's still Marco.
• 17:28
  Tad Eggleston: Though, though, I gotta tell ya, I, I think… Is it possible to… As I saw…
• 17:43
  Tad Eggleston: Like, how linearly do we want to go through this? Because as I see these pages where Sophie and the Will are put back together, I wonder to myself.
• 17:53
  Tad Eggleston: like… I didn't think it was possible for me to dislike the will more.
• 17:59
  Tad Eggleston: But I was wrong.
• 18:03
  Marisol: He always days himself just a little bit deeper.
• 18:05
  belle price: You hate this fucker.
• 18:07
  Tad Eggleston: Well, like, he didn't even dig himself this time. The fact that, for whatever reason, this wonderful, sweet girl that represents the only good thing he ever fucking did in his life sacrificed herself for him just made me go…
• 18:24
  Matt: She didn't know she was sick.
• 18:25
  Tad Eggleston: No.
• 18:26
  Matt: yourself.
• 18:26
  Tad Eggleston: No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 18:31
  Matt: I was…
• 18:32
  Tad Eggleston: supposed to die.
• 18:34
  Marisol: This is what we can get.
• 18:36
  belle price: For LionCat. There were costs for LionCat.
• 18:39
  Matt: That's right.
• 18:41
  belle price: We're still paying the price.
• 18:43
  Lee Woods: Yes.
• 18:46
  Marisol: I felt really bad. Gwen knew what that thing was.
• 18:51
  Marisol: Will and Sophie did not is the horrible thing.
• 18:55
  Tad Eggleston: Well, no, I've never particularly liked Gwen.
• 18:59
  Tad Eggleston: Gwen's, like, a conniving…
• 19:02
  belle price: So funny.
• 19:03
  Tad Eggleston: The fact that she might also succeed in ending the war just, like…
• 19:09
  Marisol: I know, it's just…
• 19:13
  Tad Eggleston: I do also totally hate this rampage that fucking… Gale goes over. Gale.
• 19:20
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 19:21
  Tad Eggleston: all these good people… She's just… to them.
• 19:24
  Marisol: And as he keeps going, he just looks more and more unhinged.
• 19:28
  Tad Eggleston: buzz.
• 19:29
  Matt: It was like that Ginny took the chance and stabbed the guy instead of…
• 19:34
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 19:34
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 19:35
  Matt: pushing it out, I thought that was awesome.
• 19:37
  Tad Eggleston: It was totally awesome, and, like, but then he just makes it even worse when, like, he turns to her family and is like, you know, it's probably worth it, because…
• 19:48
  Matt: You know what?
• 19:49
  Tad Eggleston: He was right. You were never getting out of here.
• 19:52
  Matt: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:54
  Lee Woods: Where'd you also, too, I looked at…
• 19:55
  Marisol: Gail's just an asshole.
• 19:58
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 19:59
  belle price: And when we get that flashback that he's, like, revealed to have liked Alana in the past, it's like, you're just even more of a dick.
• 20:05
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, it's like, so how much of this shit is just…
• 20:08
  Matt: Personal.
• 20:09
  Tad Eggleston: did lover.
• 20:12
  Matt: Too much of it.
• 20:14
  Lee Woods: It also made me wonder, too, anatomically, is he human? Because it looked like he was stabbed in the heart, but yet…
• 20:22
  Lee Woods: was totally.
• 20:23
  Matt: He'll stand up here in the shoulder.
• 20:24
  Tad Eggleston: It's in the shoulder.
• 20:26
  Matt: Yeah.
• 20:28
  Lee Woods: Okay.
• 20:29
  Marisol: A little too high up.
• 20:30
  Matt: You start talking about anatomy, I'm like, I don't know what he does in front of skulls, dude, stop.
• 20:35
  Lee Woods: We already saw him on, like, the crossbar, so we know.
• 20:40
  Marisol: Oh, man. We know too much about Gale.
• 20:44
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 20:44
  Lee Woods: And here.
• 20:45
  Marisol: Honestly.
• 20:45
  Lee Woods: enough.
• 20:47
  Marisol: Yes, too much, yet not enough.
• 20:50
  Matt: pissed me off.
• 20:51
  Matt: Oh, not this. I'm talking… where she gives the…
• 20:55
  Matt: She tries to tell the kids about the… bringing things back.
• 20:58
  Matt: You're way ahead of me.
• 21:00
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.
• 21:01
  Matt: That's okay!
• 21:04
  Tad Eggleston: I'm flying backwards and forwards, yeah. No, the fact that she, like, lies even more to them…
• 21:12
  Matt: Excuse me?
• 21:13
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 21:14
  Matt: And she drugs them, and, you know…
• 21:17
  Marisol: Convinced.
• 21:17
  Matt: Convinces them of her bullshit really makes me hate her.
• 21:21
  Matt: Right.
• 21:23
  Marisol: This pumpkin-headed bitch.
• 21:29
  Tad Eggleston: But then this, this scene with, with Petrichor is also heartbreaking.
• 21:33
  Matt: Yup.
• 21:35
  belle price: Marisol, you said some pumpkin-headed bitch, and I went literally and laughed really loud, but I was muted, so you guys missed that, but that was beautiful. I totally had you on that one, that was fucking hilarious.
• 21:46
  Marisol: Thank you, thank you.
• 21:47
  belle price: Sorry, you did miss.
• 21:48
  Marisol: I get a couple good ones in sometimes.
• 21:50
  belle price: Oh, you're hilarious.
• 21:58
  Marisol: Also, what is this area that Petrikor's supposed to be in? Is it, like…
• 22:02
  Matt: It's a spaceship.
• 22:03
  Marisol: A little pocket space? Or… a ship?
• 22:06
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it looks like… It looks… So much.
• 22:11
  Marisol: What's the inside of a yarn basket.
• 22:15
  Marisol: It's like…
• 22:19
  Matt: Yeah. And I love how she's got weapons and needles in the pincushion.
• 22:23
  Tad Eggleston: Alright.
• 22:23
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 22:25
  Matt: It looks like one of the buns from the orange lady's hair.
• 22:30
  Marisol: That's funny.
• 22:31
  Matt: Look at it, bitch.
• 22:34
  Matt: Nice.
• 22:36
  Tad Eggleston: And then our, our, our Amazon warehouse.
• 22:39
  Tad Eggleston: Fulfillment!
• 22:40
  Marisol: Yo.
• 22:41
  Matt: That's great.
• 22:43
  Marisol: Peeing in the grates.
• 22:44
  Matt: And I know that the conditions for those workers is horrible, so I'm like, oh my god, thank you for calling this out.
• 22:50
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:51
  belle price: Nope.
• 22:59
  Marisol: And the, like, what are they, floor managers basically being, like, Dementor-looking ghouls wearing…
• 23:05
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 23:06
  Marisol: reflective vests. Yeah.
• 23:09
  Matt: Dement… caution dementors.
• 23:11
  Marisol: Yes.
• 23:14
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 23:15
  Marisol: They're horrifying.
• 23:17
  Tad Eggleston: Fair enough.
• 23:20
  Matt: I like that Alana made the right choice.
• 23:23
  Marisol: Yeah, to not take fate away.
• 23:24
  Tad Eggleston: No, I'm more and more proud of Alana as we go through.
• 23:30
  Tad Eggleston: I love this, this artifact.
• 23:33
  Matt: Oh my god.
• 23:33
  belle price: That's so nice.
• 23:35
  Matt: Favorite panel, this might be it for me.
• 23:38
  Tad Eggleston: the… the…
• 23:39
  belle price: Alright, let's talk about geology.
• 23:40
  Tad Eggleston: the bottom.
• 23:41
  Matt: The top, the ancient TV head, oh my god.
• 23:43
  Tad Eggleston: Cause I think I like it even more on the bottom.
• 23:46
  Matt: Either, I just love it. It's great.
• 23:51
  belle price: I like it on the top, I like the full scope of it. I like getting.
• 23:54
  Marisol: a full picture.
• 23:55
  belle price: Personally.
• 23:55
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 23:56
  belle price: Because I think that it's just, like, it introduces the idea of archaeology in Saga. Like, there's fucking archaeologists in this world. Like, I love that there's, like, PhD-level researchers, like, pulling this shit out.
• 24:05
  Tad Eggleston: I don't totally disagree with you, but seeing that it's, like, this…
• 24:08
  belle price: Huge.
• 24:09
  Tad Eggleston: Rock that's been taken from somewhere else, like…
• 24:14
  Tad Eggleston: it solidifies that even more for me. They're not in some cave, they're in, like, a museum that they moved this to.
• 24:24
  Marisol: This was taken from a bigger piece, supposedly.
• 24:26
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 24:30
  Marisol: And I'm loving that the contraceptor looks like a remote control.
• 24:34
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 24:35
  belle price: Please, too, it sent me.
• 24:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 24:37
  Marisol: Yes.
• 24:39
  belle price: Mitch, please.
• 24:40
  Marisol: Love her.
• 24:42
  Marisol: In the worst way.
• 24:43
  belle price: font list.
• 24:44
  Tad Eggleston: foreplay and get to the facial.
• 24:48
  Matt: Tad just wants the money shot.
• 24:51
  Tad Eggleston: I was just reading the script.
• 24:55
  Matt: No, I know, I'm teasing.
• 24:56
  belle price: -
• 24:57
  Marisol: Also, there's…
• 24:58
  Tad Eggleston: So, love her eye as she, as she reads.
• 25:01
  Tad Eggleston: Like, how many.
• 25:03
  Marisol: I was gonna say…
• 25:04
  Tad Eggleston: R.
• 25:04
  Marisol: Her expression looking at this super long scroll.
• 25:09
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 25:14
  belle price: I wonder how much control they have over their expressions.
• 25:18
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 25:19
  Marisol: seen from Sir Robot, maybe…
• 25:22
  Marisol: to varying degrees, because I don't know if that was just because he got messed up, but a lot of his…
• 25:28
  Matt: facial.
• 25:29
  Marisol: Internal dialogue was very, very on display.
• 25:33
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 25:34
  Marisol: Or if it's… can be more of a selective thing.
• 25:38
  Marisol: Because it seems not impulsive, but.
• 25:42
  belle price: unpredictable?
• 25:44
  Marisol: Yes.
• 25:45
  Marisol: Unpredictable and a little uncontrolled.
• 25:52
  Marisol: Yeah, like Matt was saying, like, your expressions, like, micro-expressions.
• 25:56
  Tad Eggleston: How did we feel about a squire blowing the head off of a lying cat? Not…
• 26:02
  Marisol: I'm worried about him.
• 26:04
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 26:05
  Matt: I'm not, he saved his sister!
• 26:08
  Marisol: Yeah, but… This is a slippery slope, especially with how fragile he is.
• 26:16
  Marisol: After everything they've been through.
• 26:17
  Matt: Is he a serial killer?
• 26:19
  belle price: Him and his little ACAB shirt, he's gonna get into a lot of messes, that kid.
• 26:22
  Matt: Courtney Hills is the first sign.
• 26:25
  Marisol: Except this.
• 26:26
  belle price: This guy's eyes are just hollowed out, too. I hate Gale.
• 26:29
  Marisol: Oof! Ugh!
• 26:30
  belle price: He's like.
• 26:31
  belle price: unsightly. Like, you see him in the flashback, and he's, like, so cherubic and, like, adorable, and you're like, oh, it's little Gale! And then you see him now, and he's, like, dead.
• 26:40
  Tad Eggleston: this feels.
• 26:41
  Marisol: Sir, you're looking.
• 26:42
  Tad Eggleston: Baseball Steiner, though.
• 26:44
  belle price: You're right.
• 26:46
  Matt: We'll have the special.
• 26:47
  Tad Eggleston: I just rewatched Spaceballs recently, doesn't this look like the Spaceball stuff?
• 26:51
  Matt: It absolutely does.
• 26:54
  Marisol: That's funny.
• 26:58
  Marisol: God, I swear, Gail looks like he's been using hard drugs.
• 27:06
  Tad Eggleston: I hope her kid's taking care of my guitar.
• 27:09
  Tad Eggleston: Sorry, I wasn't.
• 27:14
  Matt: Bell and I were talking about that earlier.
• 27:19
  Tad Eggleston: And of course, it's after he blows the head off that, like, he speaks for the first time in years.
• 27:27
  Matt: Yeah, and now you talk?
• 27:29
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, one sec.
• 27:29
  Matt: Great.
• 27:32
  Lee Woods: I… I'll go out and say this. I like… Squires…
• 27:41
  Lee Woods: progression here. And what this said to me, a little bit more on, like, a clinical side.
• 27:48
  Lee Woods: Right, he went from this sort of selective mutism phase, And now he's… Maybe the… Mutual.
• 27:58
  Tad Eggleston: He's maiming animals, Lee.
• 28:00
  Matt: You know… He doesn't feel powerless anymore.
• 28:03
  Lee Woods: Yeah, and I think that was the part that was interesting to me, is that now that there's some element of confidence.
• 28:11
  Lee Woods: there's some element of protection, like, this sort of sibling, I don't know the ages, but I would imagine some sort of brother-to-sister protection there, from a dynamic perspective.
• 28:23
  Lee Woods: But even then, I think the part that was most intriguing to me, which I think is the concern that y'all share, and please correct me if I'm wrong here, is now how much, like his father he is.
• 28:37
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 28:37
  Matt: Potentially, yeah.
• 28:38
  Marisol: Cause… In these panels, with the cop here, It feels like he's gone… From 0 to 60, Real quick.
• 28:48
  Marisol: on, like, killing the lion cat to protect Hazel, and now he's willing to murder this cop.
• 28:57
  Marisol: In order to get this… Wonder dust they need to bring… potentially bring their dads back.
• 29:05
  Lee Woods: Yes.
• 29:07
  Lee Woods: And that was…
• 29:08
  Marisol: I do like how the cop is real with them, and like, hey.
• 29:12
  Marisol: She tricked me, too. She's kind of caught my balls in a vice, too.
• 29:16
  Marisol: Y'all should just get out of it while you can.
• 29:22
  Marisol: He was all set to just let them go on their merry way.
• 29:25
  Matt: Yeah, can I make a point about the cop? He starts this volume, Prince Robot, with an ACAB shirt on. He encounters a law officer who's actually gonna let him go and do the right thing.
• 29:37
  Matt: Whether his intentions are good or not, it doesn't matter. He's not interested in them.
• 29:45
  Tad Eggleston: It's almost like we're introducing the complexities of humanity.
• 29:51
  Matt: Yeah, it's like, oh, there are good cops.
• 29:54
  Marisol: Yes.
• 29:55
  Tad Eggleston: Or there are bad cops who are good cops, because remember, he's gotta do it this way rather than arresting her, because if he arrests her…
• 30:04
  Marisol: And then he gets brought down.
• 30:05
  Tad Eggleston: He did, well…
• 30:07
  Lee Woods: Yeah.
• 30:09
  Marisol: And it's a whole big mess.
• 30:12
  Tad Eggleston: I, I, I also, I love the, the ship captain, with the…
• 30:17
  Matt: Yup.
• 30:20
  Tad Eggleston: You put your hands on my underage daughter?
• 30:23
  Lee Woods: Oof.
• 30:24
  Marisol: Oh, boy.
• 30:27
  Lee Woods: Yeah, and just to finish my thought there, just very quickly.
• 30:30
  Tad Eggleston: Sorry.
• 30:31
  Lee Woods: No, it was a very good sort of highlight, too, like, the nature versus nurture, too. Like, despite all these years of being with the sister and Alana, that there stood this sort of,
• 30:43
  Lee Woods: the word that comes to mind is pompousness of, like, his dad, and how that's still a sort of part of him. So I thought that was really cool, really well done.
• 30:52
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 30:57
  Tad Eggleston: Now, I am really… Fascinated.
• 31:01
  Tad Eggleston: by Petracor Going Home.
• 31:04
  Matt: Why didn't we get translation on this?
• 31:09
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 31:11
  Tad Eggleston: Again, it's Esperanto, so, like, you can translate it if you want. I don't know that you really need to.
• 31:17
  Matt: Yeah, no, I get it.
• 31:19
  Marisol: I love the… black with the bone. Essentially.
• 31:23
  Tad Eggleston: It's like, oh, wait, no, it's you, Petracor, it's been so long, I love you, you're alive.
• 31:30
  Tad Eggleston: And, and… And, no, Petrographo is dead, I'm Petrichor. And mom's like, yeah, I don't care, you're my kid!
• 31:41
  Matt: Right, yeah.
• 31:42
  Tad Eggleston: Why are you changing? Whatever the hell your name is, you're here. That weapon. Vengeance!
• 31:47
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, my kid.
• 31:51
  Marisol: Be careful.
• 31:52
  Tad Eggleston: Day and have dinner.
• 31:58
  Tad Eggleston: you know…
• 31:59
  Tad Eggleston: And then, no matter how life-changing figures cross our path, sooner or later, we supposedly all become our parents.
• 32:13
  Tad Eggleston: I was NOT proud of Hazel here.
• 32:16
  Matt: Yeah.
• 32:19
  Tad Eggleston: I didn't do anything. It was all my brother's fault.
• 32:22
  Lee Woods: again, typical sibling. Like, it was so good.
• 32:27
  Marisol: They did it.
• 32:28
  Matt: He's the one with a cannon Arm.
• 32:39
  Tad Eggleston: I think we've, we've commented.
• 32:41
  Marisol: The look Squire gives her.
• 32:43
  Tad Eggleston: I, I love, I love the design of the police.
• 32:46
  Matt: Me too.
• 32:47
  Marisol: Oh, yeah.
• 32:48
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 32:51
  Tad Eggleston: Though I do wonder, like, is it something that you undergo when you become a police officer, or just all police officers…
• 32:59
  Tad Eggleston: that race.
• 33:00
  Matt: Yeah.
• 33:01
  Tad Eggleston: And, like, what about people that are that species and don't want to be? I mean, he talks about his own family, so…
• 33:09
  Tad Eggleston: So, like, is his wife also a police officer, or just.
• 33:13
  Matt: No, no, she works at the Interior.
• 33:14
  Tad Eggleston: a weaver.
• 33:18
  Tad Eggleston: Do what?
• 33:19
  Matt: She works at the incinerator.
• 33:27
  Tad Eggleston: You know, there are definitely… I think there are definitely questions that we're not supposed to ask.
• 33:33
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 33:36
  Tad Eggleston: A plainclothes like me?
• 33:38
  Tad Eggleston: He's in plainclothes.
• 33:41
  Tad Eggleston: Finally. Again, if all of the cops are fire guys…
• 33:50
  Marisol: But it makes it kind of easy to know who's a cop.
• 33:52
  Matt: Yeah, exactly.
• 33:53
  Tad Eggleston: I… I…
• 33:56
  Matt: I feel like there's more to that story.
• 33:58
  Marisol: Hell yeah.
• 33:59
  Marisol: I need more lore on these fire guys.
• 34:04
  Marisol: What's their deal?
• 34:09
  Tad Eggleston: And then,
• 34:14
  Tad Eggleston: Getting the job.
• 34:16
  Tad Eggleston: By, by, by, by playing the family card. But only 30 minutes.
• 34:23
  Lee Woods: Oh, they said preteens.
• 34:25
  Lee Woods: Pardon?
• 34:26
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 34:26
  Lee Woods: So the painting was, like, what?
• 34:29
  Marisol: 12.
• 34:30
  Tad Eggleston: Two preteens, yeah.
• 34:31
  Lee Woods: Okay.
• 34:33
  Marisol: And it took me way too long to realize that this guy had a beaver tail.
• 34:42
  Marisol: I don't know how I missed it.
• 34:45
  Tad Eggleston: I love that they're on a pyramid-shaped planet.
• 34:52
  belle price: the geology there, and the physics there, this reveals so much. I'm going into geophysics, man. This is my jam. This.
• 35:01
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 35:01
  belle price: I love the space… the space scenes, because I… they're, like, so cool.
• 35:06
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 35:08
  Lee Woods: Nerd.
• 35:08
  Tad Eggleston: Don't know how possible they are.
• 35:10
  belle price: Exactly, but I like looking at them.
• 35:12
  Marisol: I can hypothetically.
• 35:13
  belle price: I can hypothesize.
• 35:15
  belle price: Right?
• 35:17
  Tad Eggleston: This… Oh, cool.
• 35:18
  Marisol: I don't care how it works.
• 35:19
  Tad Eggleston: Chapter 65 is the most adorable lioncat pose.
• 35:25
  Matt: Yeah, it is.
• 35:27
  Tad Eggleston: Probably since he was lounging with… with.
• 35:32
  Matt: Sophie?
• 35:33
  Marisol: Sophie.
• 35:33
  Tad Eggleston: Sophie, way back on… on that drug planet.
• 35:41
  Marisol: Lion Cat's just adorable.
• 35:43
  Tad Eggleston: He is.
• 35:49
  Tad Eggleston: It's so sad that they live in this tent city after having that wonderful, wonderful rocket ship.
• 35:58
  Marisol: Wonderful rocket ship treehouse.
• 36:04
  Marisol: And here comes more pain.
• 36:08
  Tad Eggleston: This is…
• 36:13
  Tad Eggleston: again, like, I, I had no idea that, that I, I could… Like the will less.
• 36:24
  Tad Eggleston: Then… Like, and we have their escape scene in between Petrikor showing up.
• 36:34
  Tad Eggleston: on the planet with the Will, and Sophie, and Lion Cat, and Gwendolyn.
• 36:39
  Tad Eggleston: But, I kind of love that Hazel, like, whacks him with her wings to save the cop.
• 36:52
  Tad Eggleston: Fix them up, Xism.
• 36:55
  Tad Eggleston: It's like… But then we come back, and this is just… This is brutal.
• 37:03
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 37:04
  Marisol: Like, Petracor's here on a mission, and… Understandable one, but… Still.
• 37:10
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 37:11
  belle price: This series of pages was, like, a what-the-fuck moment for me. I was going, what the fuck? What the fuck? Like, literally out loud to myself on my couch.
• 37:18
  Tad Eggleston: That's right.
• 37:20
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 37:22
  belle price: I was like, what?
• 37:24
  Tad Eggleston: And I felt so much for Alana here, looking for the kids.
• 37:28
  Matt: Yup.
• 37:29
  Matt: You've got 30 minutes. Go.
• 37:32
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, this issue was just so…
• 37:35
  Matt: Intense.
• 37:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 37:37
  Marisol: We see more of… Gwen's life slipping away as her hair gets whiter?
• 37:43
  Marisol: Right. So remember, when they were trying to pick the lock, Hazel said that there was a lightning spell
• 37:48
  Marisol: And that it takes some of your life every time you use it.
• 37:52
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 37:54
  Marisol: And I like that we get that visual with…
• 37:57
  Marisol: Gwendolyn's hair getting more and more white.
• 38:00
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 38:02
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and that she essentially opens up, like, the crash helm Things, so that the lightning.
• 38:11
  Tad Eggleston: Comes down, and then… yeah, huh.
• 38:17
  Marisol: Such a baller move.
• 38:21
  Tad Eggleston: Squire's so… Sad. Hazel.
• 38:25
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 38:25
  Tad Eggleston: Angry.
• 38:28
  Marisol: And I still love how Squire's pictures on his face are still drawings, but they've gotten much more sophisticated and detailed as he gets older.
• 38:37
  Tad Eggleston: Right. Hmm.
• 38:39
  Matt: Why did you call some Brobot?
• 38:41
  Marisol: Yeah, that's cute.
• 38:43
  Marisol: Little robot.
• 38:51
  Tad Eggleston: Man, she… like, the… the… the, like, simmering anger in this panel before she hits him.
• 38:58
  Tad Eggleston: It's just…
• 38:59
  Lee Woods: This site, Marco.
• 39:01
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and this is also one of those places where Fiona, who does such great backgrounds, knows when to just drop the solid color in, and…
• 39:12
  Matt: Yup.
• 39:14
  Tad Eggleston: None.
• 39:15
  Marisol: That's all you need.
• 39:15
  Tad Eggleston: Allow anything to distract from what you're looking at.
• 39:20
  Marisol: It's like the solid red we got in Squire's face a couple pages back.
• 39:24
  Marisol: Right.
• 39:27
  Marisol: Very clear and definite anger.
• 39:32
  Tad Eggleston: And, like, look at this positioning. She's… she's clearly done some,
• 39:38
  Tad Eggleston: martial arts training somewhere. That's something that's happening.
• 39:41
  Marisol: I mean, Petracor trained her a bit.
• 39:43
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, Petracor did some training. I bet you Mom continued training.
• 39:47
  Marisol: Oh, for sure.
• 39:48
  Tad Eggleston: I think we sometimes forget how much of a badass Alana is.
• 39:55
  Lee Woods: Oh, yeah, and she threw a body into it, because you see, hitting with the left hand, that left shoulder's back? Oh, yeah. Sorry, martial arts kicking in. Yeah, that's a…
• 40:04
  Lee Woods: Oh, that's all it.
• 40:06
  Matt: Picking in, was that a joke?
• 40:10
  Matt: Pun intended.
• 40:12
  Marisol: Goddammit, Matt.
• 40:13
  Matt: Sorry!
• 40:15
  Tad Eggleston: I do love…
• 40:16
  Marisol: out of you.
• 40:18
  Tad Eggleston: They both admitted that they weren't okay.
• 40:21
  Tad Eggleston: And then they hugged. That… that was… It was very sweet.
• 40:33
  Tad Eggleston: And…
• 40:35
  Marisol: Despite all the fuckery, that little moment between them, at least to me, Sure.
• 40:41
  Tad Eggleston: That was a.
• 40:41
  Marisol: They're… like, healthy… Communicating with each other.
• 40:49
  Marisol: That might not tell Alana everything they do, or everything they're feeling.
• 40:54
  Marisol: But they share that with each other, at the very least.
• 41:11
  Tad Eggleston: And then this is just… the arrow.
• 41:16
  Marisol: Do we have to?
• 41:17
  Tad Eggleston: Because they're.
• 41:18
  belle price: I was so proud of them for making it to the…
• 41:20
  Tad Eggleston: Come back.
• 41:21
  belle price: the ship.
• 41:24
  belle price: point where I reached with my dad, I was like.
• 41:27
  belle price: And hear me out. I know this is gonna sound… this is gonna sound horrible, but my dad and I reached the conclusion… I reached the conclusion that Sophie was only a means to an end to make the will look like a good guy, and now there is no reason for us to like the will. And I'm officially anti-will. I am announcing it now. I have officially turned anti-will.
• 41:43
  Tad Eggleston: I think.
• 41:44
  belle price: I hate this guy. I hated the Will, but, like, this is… this solidifies it, like, so if he's gone, the Will's a fucking loser. Like, he's done. You're done.
• 41:52
  Tad Eggleston: But also, like…
• 41:54
  Tad Eggleston: We don't know it yet. We're starting to know it because of Alana's, or because of Gwendolyn's reaction, but where I really know that there's something…
• 42:03
  Tad Eggleston: Really, really sinister about that arrow.
• 42:07
  Tad Eggleston: is… Petrichor's reaction.
• 42:11
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 42:13
  Marisol: Her apologizing.
• 42:14
  Tad Eggleston: I'm… I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, as she…
• 42:19
  Tad Eggleston: And then you start having the blood drip.
• 42:24
  belle price: You know Patrick.
• 42:25
  Marisol: I would murder one person.
• 42:27
  belle price: Yeah.
• 42:28
  belle price: Yeah.
• 42:30
  Tad Eggleston: I, I love how, how,
• 42:34
  Tad Eggleston: Just awestruck they are that they get their own room.
• 42:37
  Matt: Yup.
• 42:42
  belle price: And Lioncat… Lioncat having a talking scene.
• 42:47
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 42:49
  Lee Woods: Hmm.
• 42:51
  Tad Eggleston: She's gonna be fine, lying.
• 42:53
  Marisol: The expression on the lion cat's face, ugh.
• 42:57
  Lee Woods: Yeah.
• 42:57
  Marisol: It hurts my heart.
• 42:59
  Tad Eggleston: This is one of the most… I mean, even… even though…
• 43:05
  Tad Eggleston: Half the people that are in pain, get, like… You couldn't wish it on…
• 43:12
  Tad Eggleston: more appropriate people. The other half of the people
• 43:17
  Tad Eggleston: that are in pain or dying, it's like, no, I don't want Lying Cat to feel like that, and no, you.
• 43:24
  Marisol: Right?
• 43:24
  Tad Eggleston: Take my Sophie!
• 43:30
  Marisol: I don't want Lion Cat to be sad, I don't want Sylphie to die, but fuck the will.
• 43:34
  Tad Eggleston: But also, I really don't want to feel even a scintilla of bad for Will.
• 43:44
  Marisol: No, because he doesn't deserve it.
• 43:45
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 43:47
  Marisol: He's a terrible person.
• 43:49
  belle price: Anti-will. I hate this guy. Anti-will.
• 43:51
  Marisol: I will.
• 43:52
  belle price: Get outta here. Get outta here.
• 43:54
  Tad Eggleston: Then this room is just amazing.
• 43:57
  Tad Eggleston: The bunk beds… the couch…
• 44:03
  Marisol: the little curtain for Alana's bed.
• 44:05
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 44:08
  belle price: Their pure joy, juxtaposed by the pure sadness in the next page.
• 44:13
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, well, I mean, this whole sequence… this whole sequence from… from…
• 44:19
  Marisol: It's so good.
• 44:20
  Tad Eggleston: them running, like, from, from… I mean, it goes back and forth. You've got their hug.
• 44:27
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, really, it starts before that. Like, like, the…
• 44:31
  belle price: Like, that was a proper Squire and, Hazel adventure. Like, a proper adventure where we were like, oh, are the kids gonna be okay? And then they were fine.
• 44:39
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, starting on… I guess it's 109 in the trade, it alternates pages.
• 44:47
  Matt: Nope.
• 44:48
  Tad Eggleston: You know, so, like, once Lioncat's been…
• 44:52
  Tad Eggleston: You know, before that, it wasn't quite alternating. It was like doing two pages, but once it starts alternating, it's like…
• 44:59
  Tad Eggleston: It's like… Here, here's the major attack.
• 45:04
  Tad Eggleston: Where are the kids?
• 45:08
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I'm pissed off because you… you knocked out my boyfriend, I'm gonna end you, except that Petrichor's a badass, and now… now Sophie's upset because Gwendolyn got hurt.
• 45:20
  Tad Eggleston: Kids are angry at each other, they beat each other up.
• 45:24
  Tad Eggleston: Gwendolyn's down, the Will is down, but the Will's got that crazy… so now Petrichor's going down, too. The kids…
• 45:34
  Tad Eggleston: make up… Acknowledge that they're all hurting.
• 45:40
  Tad Eggleston: Sophie… lets the will know that he's okay… she's okay, and… Suddenly the wheel's on fire.
• 45:50
  belle price: Because, Patrick…
• 45:51
  Marisol: Core continues to be a badass.
• 45:53
  belle price: Yo!
• 45:53
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 45:53
  belle price: I mean, the one where Petracor got stabbed, I was fully, like, I don't know if this.
• 45:57
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I thought.
• 45:57
  belle price: end well. I, like, that for me was like, oh my god, it's reaching a climax, but the kids made it up on the next page, which totally.
• 46:03
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, no, I thought we were losing Petrichor, but Petrichor was taking the wheel with her.
• 46:09
  Tad Eggleston: And then Alana's got the kids, and she makes certain that Squire knows that he's a good boy, Will's.
• 46:18
  Marisol: earnings.
• 46:20
  Tad Eggleston: And Petrikor goes to… to… do that final shot, and you're like, hell yes!
• 46:27
  Marisol: Yep.
• 46:27
  Marisol: There's the money shot.
• 46:29
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, you know, the, the, the Alana and the kids are running for the ship, they look hopeful for the first time in God knows how long. I mean, the smile, the, the, the, like…
• 46:40
  Tad Eggleston: The smile in Hazel's eyes in this bottom corner is just… Outstanding.
• 46:46
  Tad Eggleston: Right?
• 46:48
  Marisol: Oh, yeah.
• 46:49
  Tad Eggleston: And then Sophie catches the arrow, and you're like, okay, well, she saved Will, and that sucks. But you're like, for a split second, you're happy for Sophie, but then you see Gwendolyn, and then you see Petrichor, and you're like, oh fuck, what the hell is going on?
• 47:05
  Marisol: And you're backpacking.
• 47:06
  Tad Eggleston: They made it! They made it! And Alana's like, wait a minute, we get our own room? We're not… You know, even better than we thought.
• 47:19
  Tad Eggleston: And then, like, you find out, oh no, no, no, she's… Sophie's dying.
• 47:25
  Tad Eggleston: dying.
• 47:27
  Tad Eggleston: And then…
• 47:29
  Marisol: An arrow that has…
• 47:30
  Tad Eggleston: Oh!
• 47:31
  Tad Eggleston: Rolling around on the bed, you know…
• 47:36
  Tad Eggleston: But the close of that day was the first time since Dad's death that we'd managed to secure the most elusive of victories.
• 47:44
  Tad Eggleston: and then… It says an actual happy ending on the page.
• 47:52
  Tad Eggleston: where you see Sophie die.
• 47:56
  Tad Eggleston: with… I mean, just, like… I'm certain that, like, like.
• 48:02
  belle price: Like, because.
• 48:02
  Tad Eggleston: Josh, Josh told us to share that this… that this… this one made him cry, and I'm certain that this sequence is one of the parts that…
• 48:12
  Tad Eggleston: This volume made him cry.
• 48:15
  belle price: I'm sorry, Josh.
• 48:15
  Marisol: Oh, how sweet.
• 48:17
  belle price: I can't.
• 48:17
  Tad Eggleston: I hate the wheel too, but I don't hate…
• 48:19
  belle price: This one was good. I don't either, but…
• 48:22
  Tad Eggleston: No, I mean, overall, it was a fantastic volume.
• 48:25
  Tad Eggleston: But man, those last, like, 12 or so pages were just, like, ugh.
• 48:37
  Marisol: It was a lot of emotional whiplash, and I was not ready for it.
• 48:41
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, and that's right! It's not even the last issue in…
• 48:45
  belle price: Nope, then we get my little flashback, where we get.
• 48:47
  Tad Eggleston: That was 65!
• 48:50
  belle price: ill.
• 48:52
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 48:52
  belle price: Look how.
• 48:53
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 48:53
  belle price: Look how Rubic he is. Look how rosy-cheeked and perky, perky, bushy tail.
• 48:57
  Tad Eggleston: No, he's… he's the dwee…
• 48:59
  belle price: But I ain't.
• 49:00
  Tad Eggleston: on Alana.
• 49:02
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 49:03
  Tad Eggleston: Lana's too cool for him.
• 49:08
  Marisol: And now he's on drugs.
• 49:08
  belle price: bugs.
• 49:09
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 49:13
  Tad Eggleston: But I do like that we find out what, what…
• 49:16
  Tad Eggleston: what Goose has been up to.
• 49:22
  Marisol: Did not expect to see her alive again, that's for sure.
• 49:25
  Tad Eggleston: No, I did not.
• 49:26
  Marisol: Yante?
• 49:26
  Tad Eggleston: see her alive.
• 49:30
  Tad Eggleston: I think where I was even more…
• 49:34
  Tad Eggleston: Shocked, though, was it when it turned out That, that she'd actually reformed.
• 49:51
  Marisol: For a split second?
• 49:52
  belle price: Strategy?
• 49:52
  Marisol: Bottom scene.
• 49:53
  belle price: Oh, sorry.
• 49:54
  Marisol: Sorry. For a split second, I thought that bottom scene with the fire poker hitting Gale at the back of the head, I thought the head to be…
• 50:02
  Marisol: Goose, but no, he's knocked down on the ground. Also, he's tied…
• 50:06
  Tad Eggleston: It's out cold.
• 50:07
  Marisol: He would have to get a running jump start to hit that high.
• 50:10
  Tad Eggleston: It winds up being… And…
• 50:20
  Marisol: Yeah, how the hell do you say her name?
• 50:23
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know for certain.
• 50:24
  Marisol: And fiance?
• 50:26
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 50:30
  Lee Woods: Yeah, in my head, it's Beyonce.
• 50:33
  Tad Eggleston: Yanthe?
• 50:34
  Marisol: Same.
• 50:35
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 50:36
  Tad Eggleston: But yeah, no, it's so crazy to me that they've created this place where they…
• 50:42
  Tad Eggleston: They try to take the nonviolence to a new level.
• 50:46
  Tad Eggleston: By… by capturing the evil people, and then feeding them whatever they feed them to…
• 50:54
  Tad Eggleston: So I'm almost curious as to what's gonna happen with Gale now, particularly given…
• 51:00
  Marisol: form program look like?
• 51:01
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 51:02
  Tad Eggleston: Well, particularly given that they started, like, they set it up to make him, for the first time ever, at the beginning of this issue.
• 51:12
  Tad Eggleston: They actually make him… like… sympathetic.
• 51:22
  Tad Eggleston: You know, he's like the dweeb that's… that's… That's… that's…
• 51:27
  Tad Eggleston: Trying to make friends with the cool girl, and getting… completely… blown off.
• 51:37
  Marisol: Hmm.
• 51:38
  Tad Eggleston: But then he also manages to get rid of all of that sympathy in that last panel when he calls her a fucking C-word.
• 51:47
  Marisol: Yep.
• 51:47
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 51:50
  Tad Eggleston: You know, and you wonder, well, wait a minute, is he sympathetic, or was that, like…
• 51:55
  Tad Eggleston: Was that a face he was putting?
• 51:56
  Marisol: Just a mask.
• 51:58
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 51:58
  Tad Eggleston: Was it a mask, or, or is he… like, because there's the other option, which is that, like.
• 52:06
  Tad Eggleston: They're both real, but it… you know, he's so used to getting rejected that, like, it hurts a lot quickly now.
• 52:16
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 52:21
  Tad Eggleston: And then… then, of course, we get to see him in all of his… his… Dead-eyed.
• 52:29
  Tad Eggleston: Glory.
• 52:39
  belle price: The face, he makes it her in the bottom… bottom right.
• 52:43
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 52:43
  Marisol: Yep.
• 52:44
  belle price: That's kind of, like, awful. He's kind of real for that, though.
• 52:48
  Tad Eggleston: It is.
• 52:50
  Marisol: It is not a pretty sight.
• 52:53
  belle price: No, but it's also, like, wow.
• 52:56
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 52:58
  Marisol: Like, that's rude, my guy. Come on.
• 52:59
  Tad Eggleston: I just realized that all the photos are pictures Dolph took.
• 53:08
  Marisol: Oh…
• 53:09
  Tad Eggleston: And most of them from…
• 53:11
  Marisol: Oh no, I'm sad.
• 53:13
  Tad Eggleston: from… Like, the time that we knew him.
• 53:20
  Marisol: Aww.
• 53:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I mean, cause… Cause look at it, you've got…
• 53:26
  Tad Eggleston: Actually, I wonder… I wonder if we get that… hint earlier.
• 53:32
  Marisol: I don't think so.
• 53:34
  Marisol: No, it just shows… pretty good.
• 53:35
  Tad Eggleston: it not actually winding… winding up giving anything away, but it would have been fascinating if they had.
• 53:44
  Marisol: Yeah, we have a picture of Marco… Insert a robot…
• 53:50
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, you got Marco, You got Sir Robot on the beach.
• 53:54
  Matt: I love that Goose calls it a sadhole.
• 53:57
  Lee Woods: Yep. I fucking love food.
• 54:00
  Matt: funny!
• 54:01
  Tad Eggleston: Big ol' sadhole.
• 54:04
  Marisol: He's the best.
• 54:07
  Tad Eggleston: I love that Goose was originally just a character in one of Fiona's notebooks that she showed Brian, and…
• 54:17
  Tad Eggleston: Like, like, he was the character that…
• 54:22
  Tad Eggleston: wasn't part of this… I mean, so much of this story has been in Brian's head since the beginning.
• 54:28
  Tad Eggleston: But not Goose.
• 54:30
  Tad Eggleston: Everything goose is… is…
• 54:33
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I don't know if, like, some other character was repurposed in some way, but, like…
• 54:38
  Lee Woods: No.
• 54:41
  Marisol: We're happy he's here.
• 54:42
  Tad Eggleston: And I like this, it's almost like the Han Solo goosh.
• 54:47
  Matt: He's gonna shoot first.
• 54:48
  Tad Eggleston: vest, and the booth. I like his fishing.
• 54:50
  belle price: I wonder if he keeps little pebbles he finds that he finds special in the pockets. That's what I'd like to think.
• 54:55
  Marisol: And he does with it! Oh my god!
• 54:58
  Marisol: Yes!
• 55:01
  Marisol: I need that to be true!
• 55:10
  Tad Eggleston: We're addicted to violence.
• 55:12
  belle price: He's so cute when he's holding the gun up, though.
• 55:15
  Marisol: Also, holy hell for Gail having a garage in his watch.
• 55:20
  Tad Eggleston: Dan.
• 55:23
  Tad Eggleston: picture upshur and off, though, is also just so heartbreaking.
• 55:33
  Marisol: It's so good.
• 55:34
  Marisol: It's so sad.
• 55:36
  Marisol: And I… I love how…
• 55:39
  Marisol: the main photos that we can see clearly in the background of, like, people who are identifiable are the ones of Marco, Sir Robot, and then Dolphin Upshur together.
• 55:52
  Tad Eggleston: Right. Right.
• 55:55
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, they're clearly, like… We've got them up to remember them.
• 56:09
  Marisol: It's almost like an homage to Duff's work as a photographer, and also a memorial for all of them.
• 56:15
  Tad Eggleston: The way it's over his shoulder in this shot…
• 56:19
  Marisol: Yes!
• 56:21
  Tad Eggleston: As he, as he says, forgiveness? Ugh.
• 56:25
  Marisol: Almost like the little angel on his shoulder.
• 56:28
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 56:31
  Marisol: So good.
• 56:36
  Tad Eggleston: And then we get some early…
• 56:37
  Marisol: I'm not ready for us to be caught up on this, y'all.
• 56:39
  belle price: I'm not either, my dad and I were.
• 56:41
  Marisol: I'm not ready.
• 56:43
  Tad Eggleston: I know.
• 56:44
  Lee Woods: I'm caught up, and I hate every second of it.
• 56:47
  Marisol: Well, particularly.
• 56:49
  Tad Eggleston: cuz… We still don't have the solicitation on…
• 56:54
  Tad Eggleston: on the next saga, so it's gonna be at least September.
• 56:57
  Lee Woods: Yep.
• 56:58
  Marisol: Haha!
• 56:59
  Tad Eggleston: They've said that it's this year.
• 57:02
  Tad Eggleston: So… I feel like we'll have to go month by month, issue by issue.
• 57:09
  Tad Eggleston: Once it… once we get there.
• 57:12
  belle price: That's so exciting.
• 57:12
  Marisol: Yeah, huh.
• 57:13
  belle price: Cannot wait.
• 57:14
  Tad Eggleston: what we do, what we do, because I don't necessarily want to take months off, so we're gonna have to, like, start figuring out, okay, what are we gonna read this month while we wait for more Saga?
• 57:25
  Marisol: in between.
• 57:26
  Lee Woods: And not necessarily.
• 57:28
  Tad Eggleston: get into, like, series or anything, because we want to be able to easily just drop it when there's more Saga. So, like, graphic novels only.
• 57:36
  belle price: Red Handed by Matt Kent.
• 57:37
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I love… love red-handed.
• 57:40
  belle price: We should read that, because that's what got me back into comic books after years of not reading at all, and I would talk about that.
• 57:45
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, Bell, you should, you should go listen to my conversation with Matt Kent.
• 57:52
  Tad Eggleston: Because he's… he's amazing, and he's the first guest I've ever had that I discovered I discovered that,
• 58:00
  Tad Eggleston: he'd been wanting to be on my podcast for almost as long as I'd been wanting to have him on my podcast.
• 58:06
  Tad Eggleston: Because he's friends with Derek Gould, and Derek had told him about the Comics and Baseball podcast.
• 58:16
  Tad Eggleston: So also, we're working… we're working hard on bringing Matt to Chicago.
• 58:24
  Tad Eggleston: This summer. So…
• 58:26
  belle price: Oh, wow.
• 58:27
  Marisol: Honey.
• 58:27
  Tad Eggleston: We will arrange for you to meet Matt. You'll manage to move here in time, and…
• 58:32
  Tad Eggleston: That's lovely. And other Matt, you'll just have to come visit your daughter at the appropriate time to meet Matt Kent.
• 58:38
  Matt: If I have to…
• 58:45
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, Matt and I hit it off. I'm actually… I got his permission to use some,
• 58:52
  Tad Eggleston: Some mind management stuff for…
• 58:54
  Tad Eggleston: This is the spoiler out there for the 22 Panels ad in the next American Nature Presents. It also has…
• 59:04
  Tad Eggleston: Some mind management art in it.
• 59:07
  Matt: Awesome.
• 59:08
  Tad Eggleston: This is so… Because that's coming back.
• 59:12
  Tad Eggleston: And the first issue is amazing.
• 59:16
  Tad Eggleston: So… Bell, have you read Mind Management?
• 59:22
  belle price: No.
• 59:23
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, imagine red-handed, on a global scale, Across 50 issues.
• 59:33
  Matt: Government agency.
• 59:35
  belle price: I'm gonna read that.
• 59:37
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah. I mean…
• 59:39
  belle price: I have so many things to read, but I'll read that. I'll move that.
• 59:42
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, that might be a thing to do in between, is we'll shift to mind management for 3 months, because there are 3 omnibus.
• 59:50
  Tad Eggleston: additions.
• 59:51
  Marisol: Belle, the to-be-read list never ends.
• 59:53
  Tad Eggleston: No, it doesn'.
• 59:54
  Matt: I'm good.
• 59:54
  Tad Eggleston: Particularly not.
• 59:55
  Marisol: It only grows.
• 59:56
  Tad Eggleston: Because I have a long enough to be red list on my own.
• 1:00:01
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 1:00:03
  Marisol: Yeah, and then you tell everyone you know, and you get them hooked on other stories.
• 1:00:08
  Tad Eggleston: That's right.
• 1:00:09
  Marisol: I…
• 1:00:09
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, half of my book clubs… half of my book clubs are to give me an excuse to read things that I haven't read before, and half of my book clubs are to get me to reread things, or give me an opportunity to re-read things that I wouldn't…
• 1:00:23
  Tad Eggleston: Be able to squeeze in otherwise.
• 1:00:28
  Marisol: Well, this is why I'm also happy that I share comics, like, every other week or so with one of my coworkers, who's also into comics.
• 1:00:37
  Tad Eggleston: Well…
• 1:00:37
  Marisol: Tried…
• 1:00:38
  Tad Eggleston: sometime.
• 1:00:39
  Marisol: I tried to get him into Saga, and it was just not his thing.
• 1:00:44
  Tad Eggleston: You know, it makes life.
• 1:00:45
  Marisol: I know.
• 1:00:46
  Tad Eggleston: person ever.
• 1:00:47
  Tad Eggleston: I suppose with 8 billion people on Earth, it's fair that 4 or 5 of them would not like Saga.
• 1:00:54
  Matt: Yeah, that's about right.
• 1:00:55
  Marisol: I got him to read the first volume, though, and he's like.
• 1:00:58
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:00:59
  Marisol: Interesting concept, very interesting story, you know, just not my style. I'm like, alright, fair enough, I'm glad you gave up.
• 1:01:05
  Matt: Fucking front of skulls?
• 1:01:07
  Tad Eggleston: Damn?
• 1:01:08
  Marisol: I'm glad you gave it a shot, and we're willing to do that. And now we're going through, like, absolute Batman and Superman together.
• 1:01:16
  Tad Eggleston: See, the best absolutes, though, are Wonder Woman and… Martian Manhunter.
• 1:01:24
  Marisol: No, I need those.
• 1:01:26
  Marisol: My wallet says no, but my heart says yes. I mean, absolutely.
• 1:01:30
  Tad Eggleston: Martian Manhunter is…
• 1:01:34
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, Lee disagrees with me, he's more of a Wonder Woman, and, like, I find it hard to disagree with him, because, like, I love Kelly Thompson, and Hayden Sherman is doing amazing things, but, like, I think Absolute Martian Manhunter, like, transcends superhero comics.
• 1:01:52
  Tad Eggleston: Whereas I think Absolute Wonder Woman is just…
• 1:01:56
  Tad Eggleston: One of the all-time great superhero comics.
• 1:01:59
  Marisol: Well, suffice to say, more of the Absolute Universe is on my list to be read, because right now I have his issues of, Absolute Flash.
• 1:02:09
  Marisol: And…
• 1:02:10
  Tad Eggleston: Which is Chef Lemie.
• 1:02:11
  Marisol: name of… I think, kingdom come, that I still have to give back to him eventually.
• 1:02:17
  Tad Eggleston: I still need to read Kingdom Come.
• 1:02:19
  Matt: You've never read Kingdom Come?
• 1:02:20
  Tad Eggleston: I haven't. It's one… it's one of my… one of my handful of blind spots.
• 1:02:26
  Tad Eggleston: large, large handful, but, but, like, on the list of the smaller handful of ones that tons of comics people have read and I haven't, versus the ones that, like.
• 1:02:39
  Tad Eggleston: I wish I'd read.
• 1:02:42
  Tad Eggleston: That people are like, what book is that?
• 1:02:47
  Marisol: I know, he showed it to me, and I'm like, huh.
• 1:02:50
  Tad Eggleston: No, I mean, it's, like…
• 1:02:52
  Marisol: But I'm excited to keep going with it.
• 1:02:55
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:02:56
  Marisol: It's a fascinating art style.
• 1:02:58
  Tad Eggleston: Well, it's Alex Ross, isn't it?
• 1:03:00
  Matt: Yes.
• 1:03:01
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 1:03:02
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:03
  Marisol: That's his favorite artist, so…
• 1:03:07
  Tad Eggleston: Most of the time, I like them better with covers.
• 1:03:11
  Tad Eggleston: Though I do love marvels.
• 1:03:21
  Tad Eggleston: You know Alex Ross's Too, don't you?
• 1:03:24
  Matt: He's in Chicago?
• 1:03:26
  Tad Eggleston: He actually, like, like… The comic shop he shops at is… is Dreamland in Libertyville.
• 1:03:35
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, he doesn't…
• 1:03:35
  Marisol: way.
• 1:03:36
  Tad Eggleston: doesn't shop a ton, but, like, Charlie's always got Alex Ross
• 1:03:40
  Tad Eggleston: Sign stuff, because he's been going there since before the world knew who he was.
• 1:03:46
  Marisol: Whaaat?
• 1:03:48
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:03:49
  Tad Eggleston: Damn.
• 1:03:52
  Tad Eggleston: I haven't bumped into him there.
• 1:03:54
  Tad Eggleston: But a couple of times.
• 1:03:55
  Marisol: I imagine that Alex Ross Stein stuff is worth a pretty penny.
• 1:03:59
  Tad Eggleston: A couple of times I've gone in, and Charlie's like, yeah, you just pissed Alex Ross.
• 1:04:08
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 1:04:10
  Marisol: Yeah, I imagine that signed stuff is worth a pretty penny.
• 1:04:13
  Tad Eggleston: Generally, but he's… he does enough signing that it's… it's not quite like Stan Musial signs stuff in St. Louis, where, like, everybody's got one.
• 1:04:24
  Tad Eggleston: But… but, you know, he's done enough signing through the years that it's not, like, an automatic…
• 1:04:33
  Tad Eggleston: it'll be ridiculously… I'll make it, like, a $50 or $100 book, because it's Alex Ross, but…
• 1:04:42
  Tad Eggleston: Like, what book it is makes… matters, too, because…
• 1:04:46
  Tad Eggleston: A portion of the value is the book rather than the signature, because again, he does a lot of signing.
• 1:04:53
  Matt: Yep.
• 1:04:55
  Tad Eggleston: But yeah.
• 1:04:56
  Tad Eggleston: Bill, what are you drawing?
• 1:05:00
  belle price: I'm working on the second painting in this series. I did one in the winter, and this is the spring one, and they're little mined, like, tangled things.
• 1:05:09
  Marisol: I do, I just kind of.
• 1:05:10
  belle price: doodle. Like, really…
• 1:05:12
  Tad Eggleston: jerk it.
• 1:05:12
  belle price: Shit.
• 1:05:14
  belle price: Very nice.
• 1:05:15
  Tad Eggleston: Very.
• 1:05:16
  belle price: Yeah, it's more so, like, the… like, the very, very sharp…
• 1:05:22
  belle price: contrast in the lines that I enjoy, and getting a lot of.
• 1:05:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:05:26
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:27
  Marisol: Great!
• 1:05:27
  Tad Eggleston: You're gonna have to do art with Kelly when you're out here, because she sometimes does stuff like that.
• 1:05:32
  belle price: There's a craft club at UChicago that I was told about.
• 1:05:35
  Marisol: Hell yeah.
• 1:05:36
  belle price: secretary of the geo department, and I'm totally gonna… she's like, I bring my sewing machine in, and I'm like, oh, that's totally happening. Like, there's no room in this two-bedroom apartment for my sewing machine, but there is at UChicago, and she's coming with me.
• 1:05:49
  Tad Eggleston: Nice.
• 1:05:50
  Tad Eggleston: And we'll have to talk sweatshirts. I mean, I found a brand of sweatshirts.
• 1:05:53
  belle price: She's like, bye.
• 1:05:54
  Tad Eggleston: now, but… but…
• 1:05:56
  belle price: Heck yeah.
• 1:05:57
  Tad Eggleston: But… like…
• 1:06:00
  belle price: I would make my dad some collared shirts, and then we could do Tad sweatshirts. All the things. All the things you're getting.
• 1:06:06
  Marisol: There you go.
• 1:06:07
  Tad Eggleston: You get to do my sensory clothing. If I can't find the stuff that I like, we'll work, and we'll just have you make it. Do you make cargo pants?
• 1:06:17
  belle price: Cargo pant, I wish, I wish.
• 1:06:22
  Marisol: I mean, given enough time and thread, you can put pockets on anything. Oh, yeah.
• 1:06:27
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, so.
• 1:06:28
  Marisol: for everybody.
• 1:06:29
  Matt: Spoken like Rob Liefeld.
• 1:06:31
  Lee Woods: Yup.
• 1:06:33
  Tad Eggleston: Any, any more… Any more Saga thoughts, other than…
• 1:06:39
  Tad Eggleston: It's always hard to get caught up on Saga.
• 1:06:42
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 1:06:44
  Tad Eggleston: You know, this is… this.
• 1:06:45
  Marisol: I'm sad.
• 1:06:46
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I think I've said it before.
• 1:06:48
  Marisol: This was…
• 1:06:48
  Tad Eggleston: For the longest time, I would reread all of Saga in between… anytime they went on Vacationpalooza, because, like, the idea that I had to wait more than a month for Saga just…
• 1:06:59
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. It's hard.
• 1:07:00
  Marisol: It's appalling.
• 1:07:01
  belle price: Awful.
• 1:07:02
  Marisol: This ended really bittersweet, this issue.
• 1:07:06
  Tad Eggleston: This… this volume.
• 1:07:08
  Marisol: volume.
• 1:07:11
  Marisol: I mean, I'm glad we got to see Alana and the kids happy.
• 1:07:15
  Marisol: It's been a long time coming.
• 1:07:17
  Tad Eggleston: Some level…
• 1:07:18
  Marisol: The possible comfort is.
• 1:07:20
  Tad Eggleston: such a big deal, and I hope… I hope that they get to keep
• 1:07:24
  Tad Eggleston: most of it, I mean, you know that there will be drama because they're… Pre-teens, teenagers.
• 1:07:31
  belle price: I mean, the kids are also going to be working, possibly.
• 1:07:34
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 1:07:35
  belle price: Boat, so… or, excuse me, ships.
• 1:07:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but I'm hoping that it's not gonna be…
• 1:07:41
  Tad Eggleston: I'm hoping this could be more family restaurant-type working than, like, work working.
• 1:07:47
  Marisol: That makes sense.
• 1:07:48
  belle price: I hope so.
• 1:07:49
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 1:07:51
  Marisol: A little more casual about the child labor.
• 1:07:54
  Tad Eggleston: I'm hoping that the fact that… that, like, the ship captain is… and, like, I know I've read the next volume, but I don't remember at all.
• 1:08:05
  belle price: He has an underage daughter, he said, so she also.
• 1:08:08
  Tad Eggleston: So I'm hoping because of that, it's more like, everybody's gotta pull their weight in some way, but no, we're not having you sew soccer balls together with your teeth, we're having you sweep the floors, or wash
• 1:08:22
  Tad Eggleston: is, or…
• 1:08:25
  Marisol: In a way, like, age-appropriate work for them.
• 1:08:28
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:08:30
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 1:08:31
  Marisol: But they're still contributing, but not doing heavy lifting.
• 1:08:35
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:08:37
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:08:38
  Marisol: Now we are free to hate on the willed.
• 1:08:41
  belle price: Yes, I hate this!
• 1:08:42
  Lee Woods: I scream.
• 1:08:47
  belle price: I remember the episode we recorded where Lee was like, I don't like the will. I've only agreed with it more and more as time has gone on. I hate that guy.
• 1:08:57
  Tad Eggleston: But, I mean…
• 1:08:59
  Marisol: There's a man work.
• 1:08:59
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 1:09:00
  Marisol: But you see is what you get.
• 1:09:02
  Tad Eggleston: You know that the will is gonna be going after Petrichor now.
• 1:09:05
  Matt: Yup.
• 1:09:06
  Marisol: Oh, yeah.
• 1:09:07
  belle price: And that makes me mad.
• 1:09:08
  Tad Eggleston: It does.
• 1:09:11
  Lee Woods: I… actually, I… I like… like that dynamic, because I like Petrichor more, and I think Petracor is… I don't know why, in my mind, she's a better combatant than the Will.
• 1:09:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I mean, if she wins…
• 1:09:26
  belle price: Oh, yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Tad Eggleston: I'm all for it. If he winds up adding Petrichor to his scalp list… Yeah.
• 1:09:32
  Matt: It's skull business?
• 1:09:35
  Marisol: Oh, God.
• 1:09:37
  belle price: Right, how many…
• 1:09:38
  Matt: Fuck.
• 1:09:39
  Marisol: You say that, Lee, that Petrichor's the better combatant. I'm pretty sure in one of the early volumes, we saw a,
• 1:09:48
  Marisol: what the fuck is it called? A,
• 1:09:51
  Marisol: Like a little flashback panel of patrichor pre-transition fighting in the war.
• 1:09:57
  Matt: Yes.
• 1:09:58
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:09:59
  Marisol: So, when.
• 1:09:59
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah.
• 1:10:00
  Marisol: that she would be the better combatant, because the will is just…
• 1:10:03
  Marisol: A mercenary, he's not trained the same way.
• 1:10:07
  Tad Eggleston: Marco was no slouch.
• 1:10:10
  Marisol: No.
• 1:10:10
  Tad Eggleston: Robot was no slouch.
• 1:10:13
  Marisol: But again, they've all been trained by.
• 1:10:15
  belle price: fighting in the war.
• 1:10:16
  Marisol: Yeah, by the war, by their militaries. The Will is just a mercenary.
• 1:10:22
  Lee Woods: Yeah, and I think where.
• 1:10:23
  Marisol: And from what I…
• 1:10:24
  Lee Woods: Sorry, Gwen.
• 1:10:26
  Marisol: from what I would think about that, he does not have the same formal training that the others do.
• 1:10:33
  Marisol: So yeah, maybe he's a bit scrappier, and maybe a little bit more resourceful in certain regards, but he's… strikes me as not as disciplined as them.
• 1:10:44
  Marisol: Does that make sense?
• 1:10:45
  Tad Eggleston: I hope so.
• 1:10:48
  Lee Woods: Yeah, I definitely saw Marco just being more of a pacifist, which got him messed up, killed, and then…
• 1:10:56
  Lee Woods: Yeah, I…
• 1:10:56
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, they fought pretty hard in that…
• 1:11:01
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, they fell off cliffs.
• 1:11:05
  Tad Eggleston: You know, Marco was not being a pacifist in that… in that final battle. I mean, I guess… I guess he didn't deliver the killing blow.
• 1:11:15
  Lee Woods: Yep.
• 1:11:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:11:23
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:11:26
  Marisol: What an issue, though.
• 1:11:28
  Tad Eggleston: I still wish that, like.
• 1:11:32
  Tad Eggleston: Will had pulled, like, a Romeo and Juliet. Oh, wait a minute, there's no… there's no… there's no…
• 1:11:41
  Tad Eggleston: There's no antidote for that poisoning? I can't live without Sophie, let me jam my hand on that arrow, too!
• 1:11:51
  Matt: I thought what she's thinking, Tad.
• 1:11:54
  Tad Eggleston: It is!
• 1:11:54
  Lee Woods: ending.
• 1:11:55
  belle price: An actual happy ending.
• 1:11:58
  Marisol: Yep.
• 1:11:58
  belle price: Repeated.
• 1:11:59
  belle price: Lee, couldn't have said it better.
• 1:12:02
  Tad Eggleston: Matt, you want to take us out?
• 1:12:06
  Matt: We'll continue after the next page.
• 1:12:13
  Lee Woods: Although we ended that on a fuck-will note while Josh is…
• 1:12:15
  belle price: Yup!