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The AI Scam Stealing Your Child's Voice · Crime Night

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  Speaker 1: I want you to just imagine something for a second.
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  Speaker 1: It's a completely normal Friday afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Right, the work week is finally winding down exactly.
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  Speaker 1: You're stepping out of your car, maybe you're running a
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  Speaker 1: quick errand mentally running through your grocery list. The sun
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  Speaker 1: is shining, and everything is just, you know, utterly mundane.
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  Speaker 2: You're completely on autopilot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then your phone rings. You look down. It's
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  Speaker 1: an unknown number, or you know, maybe it's even your
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  Speaker 1: own child's number. So you answer, thinking it's just a
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  Speaker 1: quick hello, right, But instead of a telemarketer or a
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  Speaker 1: normal greeting, you're instantly hit with the sound of your
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  Speaker 1: own child screaming for help, sobbing, an absolute visceral terror.
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  Speaker 1: In a matter of seconds, your ordinary friday just shatters.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is the absolute definition of a nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: It's the kind of sudden, shocking scenario that just paralyzes
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  Speaker 2: you from the inside out, completely overriding your ability to
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  Speaker 2: think rationally.
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  Speaker 1: What makes this truly terrifying is that, as a criminal investigator,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you this isn't some hypothetical scenario from
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  Speaker 1: a thriller novel. This is happening right now to real
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  Speaker 1: people all across the country.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's becoming incredibly common.
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  Speaker 1: So in today's deep dive, we are examining a really
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  Speaker 1: chilling collection of investigative reports, cybersecurity research, and even congressional
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  Speaker 1: testimonies regarding a terrifying new frontier of extortion. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: about AI generated virtual kidnappings.
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  Speaker 2: It's a completely new brand of psychological.
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  Speaker 1: Warfare, it really is. Our mission today is to dissect
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  Speaker 1: exactly how this tech works, the specific psychological manipulation that deploys,
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  Speaker 1: and why perpetrators are currently slipping through these massive loopholes
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  Speaker 1: in our legal system.
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  Speaker 2: And most importantly, we need to talk about the one
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  Speaker 2: crucial offline step you absolutely must take today to protect
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  Speaker 2: your family.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this. We are looking at a case
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  Speaker 1: out of Scottsdale, Arizona. It's January twentieth, twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 1: A mother named Jennifer di Stefano walk us through the
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  Speaker 1: anatomy of this incident.
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  Speaker 2: Well, to understand the sheer terror of this event, you
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  Speaker 2: really have to picture the incredibly mundane setup. Jennifer is
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  Speaker 2: managing this bustling household with four.
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  Speaker 1: Kids, which is chaos on a good day.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely So it's a weekend and the family employs
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  Speaker 2: a classic divide and conquer strategy. Jennifer is running errands
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  Speaker 2: in town and pulling into the parking lot of a
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  Speaker 2: local dance studio to pick up her thirteen year old daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so she's alone in.
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  Speaker 2: The car, right, and meanwhile, her husband is about one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty miles away, way up in the mountains,
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  Speaker 2: taking their youngest son and their fifteen year old daughter,
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  Speaker 2: Brianna for some ski race.
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  Speaker 1: Training, which creates a physical distance. Yeah, as an investigator,
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  Speaker 1: I look at that and see a vulnerability that these
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  Speaker 1: operations exploit just.
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  Speaker 2: Perfectly, precisely. So, Jennifer is just stepping out of her
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  Speaker 2: car into the crisp January air and her cell phone rings.
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  Speaker 2: It's an unknown number. Her initial instinct is to just,
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  Speaker 2: you know, ignore it, like we all do, right, But
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  Speaker 2: in the back of her mind, this quiet anxiety whispers.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Brianna's up on a mountain skiing. What if
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  Speaker 2: someone is calling from a hospital.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't risk Let that got to voicemail.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, So she answers, and the moment she puts the
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  Speaker 2: phone to her ear, it's Brianna on the line, but
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  Speaker 2: Brianna isn't saying hello. She is sobbing, hyperventilating, barely able
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  Speaker 2: to breede. She cries out, Mom, I messed up.
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  Speaker 1: Man as a parent, your heart just stops. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: you probably don't instantly jump to a violent crime, right,
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  Speaker 1: You'd think of a car crash or a ski accent.
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  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what Jennifer thinks. She tries to soothe her,
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  Speaker 2: saying it's okay, Bree, calm down. What's wrong? Did you fall?
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  Speaker 1: Which is the natural reaction.
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  Speaker 2: But before she can even finish her sentence, a man's
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  Speaker 2: voice cuts into the audio, a deep, aggressive voice. He
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  Speaker 2: barks at Brianna to lay down and put her head back.
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  Speaker 2: Then Jennifer hears her own daughter cry out in the background, Mom,
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  Speaker 2: these bad.
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  Speaker 1: Men have me, help me, help me, Jesus. The sensory
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  Speaker 1: overload in that confined space for her car must have
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  Speaker 1: been absolutely deafening.
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  Speaker 2: It is meticulously crafted psychological violence, I mean. The man
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  Speaker 2: then takes the phone completely. He tells Jennifer he has
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  Speaker 2: her daughter. He demands one million dollars in cash.
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  Speaker 1: Million dollars yes, and.
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  Speaker 2: He explicitly threatens that if she calls the police or
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  Speaker 2: breathes a word of this to anyone, she will never
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  Speaker 2: see brion again. He graphically outlines his intentions to drug her,
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  Speaker 2: sexually assault her, and leave her for dead across the
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  Speaker 2: border in Mexico.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: All the while, Jennifer can hear her daughter pleading in
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  Speaker 2: the background until the audio goes muffled, which simulates the
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  Speaker 2: sound of Brionna physically being dragged away from the phone.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a digital ghost story, but the ghost has
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  Speaker 1: a gun to your child's head and is demanding cash.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how's a parent supposed to apply logic or
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  Speaker 1: critical thinking when their brain is flooded with the biological
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  Speaker 1: panic of hearing their own child's unique cry.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what's fascinating here is they aren't supposed to. They
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  Speaker 2: really aren't. What we are seeing here is the deliberate
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  Speaker 2: weaponization of evolutionary biology.
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  Speaker 1: So the panic is the point exactly.
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  Speaker 2: The panic isn't a side effect of the scam. It
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  Speaker 2: is the fundamental mechanism that makes the scam work. When
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  Speaker 2: a human being hears the distressed cry of their offspring,
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  Speaker 2: the amigdala, you know, the the brain's fear center completely
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  Speaker 2: hijacks the prefrontal cortex.
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  Speaker 1: Which is where logic, reason, and skepticism live right.
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  Speaker 2: The perpetrators do not want the victim thinking. Clearly, they
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  Speaker 2: rely on pure, unadulterated fear to drive every single decision.
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  Speaker 2: They need you moving fast, acting on instinct rather than analysis.
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  Speaker 1: But because their entire business model relies on the victim
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  Speaker 1: panicking and acting fast, what happens when a victim physically
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  Speaker 1: cannot get the money quickly? The whole algorithm of the
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  Speaker 1: scam just breaks down, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 2: It absolutely breaks down, and that is where the frantic
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  Speaker 2: negotiation that dance studio parking lot reveals the true nature
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  Speaker 2: of the crime. Jennifer is shaking, terrified. She pushes through
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  Speaker 2: the doors of the studio.
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  Speaker 1: She goes inside where the other parents are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's incredibly sharp under pressure. Honestly. She keeps
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  Speaker 2: the man on speakerphone, but she mutes her own microphone
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  Speaker 2: so we can't hear her environment, and she just starts
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  Speaker 2: screaming for help to the other parents inside.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's smart, because pulling other people into theis breaks
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  Speaker 1: the isolation the scammra is trying to build.
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  Speaker 2: It changes the entire dynamic. The other moms swarm her.
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  Speaker 2: One rushes outside to dial nine one one. The rest
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  Speaker 2: surround Jennifer, listening to this man deliver horrifying threat after
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  Speaker 2: horrifying threat. That has to be so surreal for those
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  Speaker 2: other parents, right, and then Jennifer unmutes her microphone. She
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  Speaker 2: begs to speak to Brionna again, but the man refuses.
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  Speaker 2: He doubles down on the demand for one million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: But she doesn't have a million dollars in a briefcase.
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  Speaker 2: No, And as Jennifer starts pushing back on the logistics,
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  Speaker 2: frantically asking how on earth she is supposed to access
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  Speaker 2: a million dollars in physical cash on a weekend afternoon,
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  Speaker 2: the scammer realizes his script has hit a wall.
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  Speaker 1: He realizes she literally cannot pull that off.
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  Speaker 2: Quickly exactly, so, completely unprompted, he drops the ransom.
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  Speaker 1: Let me guess a huge drop, like from one million
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  Speaker 1: down to fifty thousand dollars cash. And they always refuse
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  Speaker 1: wire transfers because they can be traced by investigators like me.
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  Speaker 1: Spot On.
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  Speaker 2: He tells Jennifer to gather the fifty and he's going
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  Speaker 2: to drive a white van to pick her up. He
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  Speaker 2: plans to put a bag over her head, drive her
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  Speaker 2: to an undisclosed location to exchange the cash for Brianna,
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  Speaker 2: and promises that if she is missing a single dollar,
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  Speaker 2: they are both dead.
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  Speaker 1: This is escalating so fast.
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  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, Jennifer's younger daughter is standing right there in
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  Speaker 2: the dance studio, frozen in terror, listening to a stranger
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  Speaker 2: threatened to murder her sister and her mother.
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  Speaker 1: The collateral trauma rippling through that room is just staggering.
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  Speaker 1: And here is where the timeline really splits. Another mom
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  Speaker 1: grabs the younger daughter's phone to call Jennifer's husband, knowing
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  Speaker 1: he is more likely to answer a call.
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  Speaker 2: From his other kid right because he's ignoring unknown numbers
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  Speaker 2: too exactly.
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  Speaker 1: It rings and rings, going straight to voicemail. Then the
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  Speaker 1: mom who ran outside to call nine one one rushes
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  Speaker 1: back inside. And this blew my mind. When I was
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  Speaker 1: reading the reports, the police dispatcher had told her immediately,
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  Speaker 1: this has to be fake. We're seeing a massive spike
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  Speaker 1: in these it's an AI recording.
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  Speaker 2: It's wild how fast the dispatcher knew.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And at the exactact same moment, someone finally gets
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  Speaker 1: a hold of Jennifer's husband. He had been in the shower,
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  Speaker 1: He answers, deeply confused by the panic on the other
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  Speaker 1: end of the line, because he is looking right at Brianna.
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  Speaker 2: She's just right there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, She's sitting right there in the ski lotch perfectly safe,
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  Speaker 1: quietly doing her homework.
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  Speaker 2: Which is such a massive relief but also so jarring.
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  Speaker 1: But here's where it gets really interesting. The dispatcher knew
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  Speaker 1: it was AI right. The husband answered the phone and
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  Speaker 1: confirmed Brianna was physically safe, but Jennifer still didn't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how is that possible?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that is the most insidious part of this technology.
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  Speaker 2: We are talking about a terrifying psychological threshold that Jennifer
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  Speaker 2: crossed in that parking lot. She could no longer trust
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  Speaker 2: her own senses because it sounded so real, exactly. She
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  Speaker 2: pushed back on the dispatcher's dismissal, because this wasn't just
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  Speaker 2: some generic recording of a girl crying. This was a dynamic,
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  Speaker 2: back and forth conversation. The AI had captured the distinct,
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  Speaker 2: unique quiver in Brianna's crime.
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  Speaker 1: Detail is just chilling.
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  Speaker 2: Even when someone finally handed Jennifer a phone and the
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  Speaker 2: real Brianna was on the line, Jennifer kept asking, is
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  Speaker 2: it really you? Are you really okay? She had to
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  Speaker 2: ask over and over before the reality actually sank in.
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  Speaker 1: It completely short circuits human trust.
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  Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture, looking through
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  Speaker 2: the lens of human evolution, our entire social fabric, our
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  Speaker 2: ability to survive as a species is built on recognizing
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  Speaker 2: the voices of our kin.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wired into us.
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  Speaker 2: It is an anshert, deeply embedded survival tool. To have
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  Speaker 2: that hijack, To have your own senses weaponized against you
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  Speaker 2: so flawlessly that you doubt the real person when they
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  Speaker 2: speak to you, I mean, it is a profound violation
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  Speaker 2: of our reality.
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  Speaker 1: So Jennifer finally realizes her daughter is safe, the fear
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  Speaker 1: turns to absolute fury. She tells the would be kidnapper
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  Speaker 1: exactly what she thinks of his extortion attempt, hangs up
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  Speaker 1: and literally collapses on the floor.
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  Speaker 2: The adrenaline crash must have been intense.
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  Speaker 1: Now. Discovering that Brienna was safe should have been the
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  Speaker 1: end into the nightmare, But surviving a virtual kidnapping plunges
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  Speaker 1: victims into an agonizing void of law enforcement accountability. Walk
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  Speaker 1: us through the police response, because as an investigator. This
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  Speaker 1: is where the story gets incredibly frustrating for me.
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  Speaker 2: I can imagine. So the entire agonizing ordeal lasted about
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  Speaker 2: four minutes, but the police never even showed up to
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  Speaker 2: the parking lot, unbelievable because the dispatcher had already labeled
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  Speaker 2: it a scam, they didn't dispatch a single officer to
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  Speaker 2: the scene. When Jennifer followed up with local law enforcement
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  Speaker 2: later that night, she was essentially told no harm, no foul.
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  Speaker 2: They basically dismiss the incident as a prank.
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  Speaker 1: A prank, I mean, after a man threatened to drug
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  Speaker 1: and assault her daughter. If law enforcement writes this off
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  Speaker 1: as a prank just because a physical crime didn't happen,
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  Speaker 1: aren't they completely ignoring the psychological assault. How does the
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  Speaker 1: legal system justify that response.
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  Speaker 2: It comes down to the archaic wording of our criminal codes.
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  Speaker 2: In many jurisdictions, extortion laws require the actual transfer of
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  Speaker 2: funds to trigger a major felony investigation.
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  Speaker 1: Right there needs to be material.
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  Speaker 2: Loss exactly, and kidnapping laws require physical movement or detainment.
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  Speaker 2: Because no physical kidnapping occurred and no money changed hands,
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  Speaker 2: the legal code simply doesn't have a robust category for
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  Speaker 2: virtual psychological terror. In the eyes of the outdated law,
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  Speaker 2: no tangible crime was committed.
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  Speaker 1: Which leads the victim feeling completely abandoned by the very
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  Speaker 1: system designed to protect them. And Jennifer couldn't let it go.
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  Speaker 1: She stayed up all night terrified they were being actively stocked.
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  Speaker 2: You feel so exposed.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the mystery I really need you to solve.
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  Speaker 1: She scoured Brianna's digital footprint to find out where they
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  Speaker 1: got the voice. But Brianna's TikTok and Instagram accounts were
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  Speaker 1: entirely private. She only had a few dozen approved followers.
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  Speaker 2: So she wasn't some public influencer.
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  Speaker 1: Not at all. There were a couple of athletic related clips,
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  Speaker 1: but absolutely nothing that could explain the sheer volume and
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  Speaker 1: emotional depth of the audio Jennifer heard. If her profile
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  Speaker 1: was locked down, how on earth did the scammer's cloneer
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  Speaker 1: voice so perfectly.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is where we have to talk about the
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  Speaker 2: data scraping economy. The criminals don't need Brianna to have
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  Speaker 2: a public YouTube channel. All they need are loose fragments
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  Speaker 2: scattered across.
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  Speaker 1: The web, like what exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps a public school volleyball game was streamed online and
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  Speaker 2: you can hear Brianna cheering in the background, or maybe
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  Speaker 2: a friend with a public profile posted a short video
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  Speaker 2: of them laughing at the mall.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, So you can control what others post.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Data brokers, these companies that legally use automated software
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  Speaker 2: to scrape and harvest digital footprints, pull all these fragments together.
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  Speaker 2: That data is frequently sold, leaked, or stolen, ending up
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  Speaker 2: on the dark web where scam networks purchase it in bulk.
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  Speaker 1: So even if you are incredibly careful, your friends or
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  Speaker 1: your school might inadvertently expose your biometric data. And the
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  Speaker 1: trauma this cause is doesn't just vanish because the call ends.
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  Speaker 2: No, the trauma is lasting. Brianna, the fifteen year old
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  Speaker 2: whose voice was stolen, continues to carry that emotional scar.
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  Speaker 1: It has to change how you see the world.
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  Speaker 2: Ironically, she is now in college studying AI and economics,
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  Speaker 2: learning to understand the very technology that was used to
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  Speaker 2: terrorize her family. And Jennifer quickly realized she wasn't alone.
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  Speaker 2: When she posted a warning to her local nextdoor community,
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  Speaker 2: her inbox just flooded with similar horrors.
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  Speaker 1: Really this in her local area.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, people reported fake arrests, fake medical emergencies. A friend
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  Speaker 2: of Jennifer's got a call from her eight year old
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  Speaker 2: son begging for his life using his private family nickname.
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  Speaker 2: And this kid didn't even own a phone.
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  Speaker 1: That is terrifying. It shows the sheer scale of this operation.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason law enforcement is treating these life shattering
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  Speaker 1: calls as pranks is that our legal framework is entirely
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  Speaker 1: outpaced by the cheap, fast, and borderless nature of the technology.
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  Speaker 2: It's a complete mismatch.
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  Speaker 1: Let's dick into the research from the cybersecurity company McAfee,
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  Speaker 1: because this is the part that truly exposes the mechanics
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  Speaker 1: of the threat. It takes merely three seconds of audio
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  Speaker 1: to clone a voice, less time than it takes to
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  Speaker 1: say hello, who's calling. Explain how three seconds becomes a
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  Speaker 1: fluent emotional conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the AI isn't just acting like a tape recorder,
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  Speaker 2: you know, cutting and pasting words together like an old
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  Speaker 2: ransom note made of magazine clings.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it's not pre recorded snippets.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. When the artificial intelligence software analyzes those three seconds
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  Speaker 2: of audio, it is mapping the micro tremors, the specific cadence,
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  Speaker 2: and the pitch variations of the voice. It builds a
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  Speaker 2: complex mathematical model of that person's.
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  Speaker 1: Vocal track that's incredibly sophisticated.
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  Speaker 2: And once that mathematical model is built, it is plugged
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  Speaker 2: into a text to speech engine. The scammer can type
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  Speaker 2: whatever they want into a textbox, like mom, these bad
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  Speaker 2: men have me, and the software generates a brand new
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  Speaker 2: waveform using that unique vocal fingerprint. That is how it
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  Speaker 2: mimics the quiver and the emotion in real.
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  Speaker 1: Time, and it is terrifyingly accessible. The software to do
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  Speaker 1: this costs as little as five dollars a month. But
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  Speaker 1: there is another technological trick here. How did Breonna's a
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  Speaker 1: actual phone numbers show up on Jennifer's caller ID? Because
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  Speaker 1: if I see my kid's name on my screen, my
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  Speaker 1: guard is completely.
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  Speaker 2: Down naturally, and that is achieved through a technique called spoofing.
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  Speaker 2: Utilizing voiceover Internet Protocol or VoIP, the scammers route their
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  Speaker 2: call through an Internet service rather than a traditional cop
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  Speaker 2: of phone line.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so they're bypassing the old systems, right.
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  Speaker 2: The critical flaw in our aging telecommunications infrastructure is that
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't automatically verify the true origin of a call.
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  Speaker 2: The stammer software simply tells the receiving network, Hey, display
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  Speaker 2: this specific phone number to the person.
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  Speaker 1: I'm calling, and the network just accepts it.
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  Speaker 2: The network just accepts the command blindly and displays your
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  Speaker 2: loved one's name on your screen.
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  Speaker 1: So what does this all mean. It's basically like someone
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  Speaker 1: weaponizing your fingerprint, but they can buy the weapon for
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  Speaker 1: the price of a cup of coffee, and the government
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  Speaker 1: just shrugs. And this combination of cheap voice cloning and
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  Speaker 1: caller ID spoofing has birthed a devastating new business model.
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  Speaker 1: FBI Research compares these operations to high volume call centers.
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  Speaker 1: They are not carefully stalking individual families. They favor volume
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  Speaker 1: over precision exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Operators sit in boiler rooms, cycling through thousands of scrape numbers,
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  Speaker 2: running a script, threatening, demanding, and moving on. Many of
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  Speaker 2: these scam centers originate outside the US, frequently in Mexico,
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  Speaker 2: which is why they heavily target Latino families in the
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  Speaker 2: US Southwest.
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  Speaker 1: Because the geographic threat makes sense to them.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it makes the threat of a loved one being
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  Speaker 2: dragged across the border instantly believable to that specific demographic.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: They don't need a high success rate because when a
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: victim does break down and pay, the average payout is
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: eleven thousand dollars.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: That is a massive return on a five dollars a
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: month investment, and the tactics are escalating. In late twenty
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: twenty five, the FBI had to issue a new warning
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: because criminals now pairing these AI voice calls with AI
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: altered proof of life photos.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is getting really dark. They are generating manipulated
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  Speaker 2: images of the loved one bound or injured and sending
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: them as vanishing messages.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Vanishing messages like on Snapchat or WhatsApp.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly the photo disappears from the phone screen before the
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: victim's brain has a chance to critically analyze the visual flaws,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: you know, like weird shadows or strange fingers, which are
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: common AI artifacts.
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  Speaker 1: Which brings us to the legislative lag. Why is the
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: government failing to stop this?
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: The pacing of technological advancement is simply moving faster than
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: the legislative process. I mean, while it's true that for
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: the first time all fifty states introduce some form of
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: AI related legislation in twenty twenty five, the federal landscape
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: remains heavily fractured.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: It's totally disjointed.
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  Speaker 2: There is no comprehensive, unified federal law specifically governing AI
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: voice cloning. Lawmakers are struggling to balance the desire to
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: regulate dangerous open source AI tools with the pushback from
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: the tech sector regarding innovation and privacy.
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  Speaker 1: So it's essentially the wild West right now.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: It really is. And while that complex regulatory debate drags
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: on Washington, average citizens are being terrorized in their local
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: grocery store parking lots.
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  Speaker 1: Because the government cannot currently protect citizens, the responsibility of
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: defense falls entirely on the individual. This is vital to
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: understand because these scams are no longer just psychological terror.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: They are escalating into real physical danger. Listen to what
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: happened recently in Kansas, OH.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: This case is horrifying.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Scammers spoofed a mother's phone number and faked her voice
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: in a hostage call made to her young children. A
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: man claimed he had a gun to their mom's head.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: The kids, acting perfectly rationally, hung up and called nine
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: to one one.
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  Speaker 2: Which triggered a massive, heavily armed police.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Respond right the police tracked the mother's phone location to
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: a moving car. Thinking they were intercepting an active mobile
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: hostage situation, they executed a high risk traffic stop. They
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: pulled the car over with weapons drawn, pointing firearms at
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: an entirely innocent woman who was just driving a friend
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: to pick up his car.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: She must have terrified.
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  Speaker 1: She had no idea her voice and her caller ID
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: were being used to orchestrate this chaos. Luckily, no one
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: was physically hurt that time, but you can see how
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: easily this digital prank turns lethal when armed officers are
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: acting on manipulated data.
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  Speaker 2: This raises an important question. Right the potential for a
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: tragic misunderstanding is sky high. This is why having an
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: actionable defense playbook is non negotiable for every single family
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: So, if I answer my phone today and I hear
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: my family member screaming, what is the actual playbook? From
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: an investigative insecurity standpoint, how do I defend myself in
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: that moment?
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: First, and I know this is the hardest but most
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: critical step, You have to force yourself to slow down.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: The scam is fueled entirely by your speed and your panic.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: If you stop moving fast, their high volume script starts
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: to fall apart.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, slow down. What next.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Second, while you keep the scammer on the line, immediately
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: try to contact the loved one on a separate device,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: like having.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: A coworker text your husband while you keep the scammer talking.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Precisely use a number you already have saved in your phone,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: never an number of the caller provides. Third, the National
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Cybersecurity Alliance recommends asking the caller to switch to a video.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Call because the AI can't do video yet.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Well currently, it is very computationally difficult for these volume
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: based scam centers to run a real time audio clone
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: and a real time video deep fake simultaneously. And finally,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: if they send you any proof of life photos or
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: audio clips, screenshot them or screen record them immediately before
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: they vanish.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Because that digital footprint might be the only evidence investigators
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: like me have to track the network exactly. Those are
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: great reactive steps, But the ultimate proactive defense that think
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: every cybersecurity expert is talking about is the family safe word.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: But I want to dig into the nuances of this
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: because it's wild. But you can't just use a pet's
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: name or your street address. The data brokers we talked
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: about can scrape that off your Facebook in two seconds.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be obscure.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: And UC Berkeley Forensis Professor Hanni fred goes a step further.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: He says, you shouldn't even speak this safe word out
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: loud anywhere near your smartphone. You have to share it
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: in person or write it down on a piece of paper.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Are we crossing into total paranoia here or is this
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: just standard digital hygiene now?
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Treating your phone as an active listening device is no
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: longer paranoia. It is simply the reality of the digital age.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Smartphones and smart speakers constantly harvest background audio data to
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: optimize advertising algorithms.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: So they really are listening.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: A safe word is entirely useless if it's been vacuumed
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: up by an app sold by a data broker and
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: ends up in the hands of the same networks running
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: these scams. And Professor furred as another crucial point, you
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: have to practice.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: It, practice the safeword.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you won't use this obscure word in your daily life,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: so you have to test your family occasionally. It has
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: to become pure muscle memory so that you remember it
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: during a crisis.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: That makes total sense. You have to train for the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: emergency before it happens.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And if you are targeted, you must report it. Even
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: if you figure out it's a scam in ten seconds
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: and hang up, local police might dismiss it because of
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the legal loopholes we discussed, but you need to bypass them.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Report the incident directly to IC three dot gov or
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: call one eight hundred dash Hall FBI begs.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: The Feds need the data right.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: These are decentralized international networks. Federal investigators cannot track a
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: threat they don't know exists. Every single data point, a
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: phone number, a screenshot, a recording of the AI voice
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: helps authorities map the operations and disrupt the call centers.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: So to pull all of this together, AI voice scams
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: are a cheap, volume based business model that weaponizes our deepest,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: most primal human bonds against us. They utilize three seconds
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: of scraped audio and call writ d spoofing to hijack
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: our amigdala and right now they are operating in a
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: fractured legal landscape where the law has not caught up
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: to the technology.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: The burden of protection is firmly on our shoulders.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: It is which brings us to your action item for today.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: The second this deep dive ends. We want you to
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: reach out to your family. Establish a secure, obscure, offline safeword.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Do not text it, do not say it near your
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: smart speaker. Have this conversation now before your phone ever rings,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: because the single strongest defense you have is the preparation
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: you do when your mind is clear.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: It really leaves us with a deeply unsettling reality to
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: ponder for our entire history as a species, Hearing the
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: voice of our child in pain meant one undeniable truth
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: they needed us. It was the purest signal of distress.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fundamental to who we are.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: But if our very own voices, the raw emotional sound
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: of our peers can no longer be trusted as proof
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: of our identity, how will the fundamental nature of human
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: trust have to evolve in a world where seeing and
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: hearing is no longer believing? How do we prove we
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: are who we say we are?
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: It makes you wonder if the digital ghosts can sound
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: exactly like the people we love most. Maybe the only
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: thing we can truly trust anymore is the secret word
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: we whispered to each other in the dark. Talk to
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: your families, everyone, Stay safe out there.