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  Speaker 1: get back into on the radio program here this morning,
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  Speaker 1: all sorts of Seahawks talk. We got Matt hasselback, we
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  Speaker 1: got Greg Bell coming on today. We've got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different angles that we're going to discuss. I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: really anticipating talking much baseball, if any at all today,
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  Speaker 1: and yet we have one of the most legendary Mariners
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  Speaker 1: in the news here today. I think in a lot
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  Speaker 1: of circles, one of the absolute favorite Mariners of all
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  Speaker 1: time has made a really big push in the Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame voting that took place yesterday. He didn't come
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  Speaker 1: close to getting in. You need seventy five percent of
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  Speaker 1: the vote. He only had forty six point one percent
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  Speaker 1: of the vote. But he also wasn't closed. He was
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  Speaker 1: a lot closer to getting in than he was to
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  Speaker 1: being taken off the ballot, because you need five percent
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  Speaker 1: of the vote in order to stay on the ballot,
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  Speaker 1: So he had no fear of that going into yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: But the leap that he took is what is significant.
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  Speaker 1: He went from twenty percent of the vote to forty
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  Speaker 1: six percent of the vote. And so a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people out there think that this is the type of
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  Speaker 1: momentum that you require.
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  Speaker 2: It's so silly.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, people just automatically assume that, because I am
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  Speaker 1: a professed seamhead that I love the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 2: I can't stand it. I really can't.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's just I mean, I love the Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame, don't get me wrong, But the process in
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  Speaker 1: which they go through is just so silly that twenty
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  Speaker 1: six percent of the voters decided Felix wasn't worthy last time,
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  Speaker 1: but he suddenly is this year. It's pretty dumb really
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  Speaker 1: on its face, but he is. The bottom line is
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  Speaker 1: he's trending in the right direction.
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  Speaker 2: To get in. Yeah. I mean, it's the biggest jump
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  Speaker 2: from like a first year to a second year since
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  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty seven. So that's good. At the same time, time, like,
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  Speaker 2: so a bunch of you last year thought no, no,
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  Speaker 2: definitely not yeah, well not even yeah. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I guess you can only vote yes or no. I
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  Speaker 2: guess I just don't understand. I've I read a couple
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  Speaker 2: of things that people were saying there was a bigger
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  Speaker 2: influx of new voters this year who may be more
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  Speaker 2: willing to look at the analytics. Yeah, that may be
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  Speaker 2: more willing to I don't know, just not you know,
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  Speaker 2: hold things the old school guys might have been like
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty wins or one hundred and sixty wins.
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  Speaker 2: That's not good. I mean, we're Hall of Famers win
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  Speaker 2: three hundred games. You know. It's like, well, but he
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  Speaker 2: played on crap teams. I mean, what do you expect.
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  Speaker 2: He got felix. There's a term for it. He got
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  Speaker 2: Felix a ton of times. And so I think there's
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  Speaker 2: something too. Maybe there's a new some new voters, maybe
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  Speaker 2: some of the others are starting to come around to
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  Speaker 2: the analytics and the fact that during his peak years five, six, seven,
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  Speaker 2: eight years, whatever it is, he was the most dominant
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  Speaker 2: or one of the most dominant, if not the most
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  Speaker 2: dominant pitcher in the game. And so I'm glad that
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  Speaker 2: he got a boost. If it would have had been
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  Speaker 2: heading the other direction, I would have been disappointed. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't expect him to get in. To go from twenty
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  Speaker 2: percent to seventy five percent would have been absurd. Then
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  Speaker 2: I would have thought, well, something fishy's going on. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Felix is stuff in the ballot box.
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  Speaker 1: Yea, Felix, what'd you do hand it out to Turkey
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  Speaker 1: Legs right before the vote?
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  Speaker 2: I know what you're doing. That's what it is, turn
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  Speaker 2: their we into King's score members. But yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: it's a good sign that he's heading in that direction.
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  Speaker 2: I think that it's I think that there is some
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  Speaker 2: absurdities that come with the Hall of Fame voting, and
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  Speaker 2: I think that some people slip through the cracks and
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  Speaker 2: other people maybe get in that aren't as deserving. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad that he just is moving in the right direction.
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  Speaker 1: The conflict of the listener right now that loves Felix
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  Speaker 1: and hates analytics is really worth studying because the only
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  Speaker 1: chance Felix was going to get in is because and
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned this yesterday when we talked about it in
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  Speaker 1: One Last thing, he is going to be an analytics darling.
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  Speaker 1: And it's because of all those close games that he
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  Speaker 1: didn't win, and that's seven years of dominance that might
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  Speaker 1: have been overlooked because he was tucked away in the
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  Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest. He's going to get in because the analytics
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  Speaker 1: nerds are going to pour over their numbers and they're
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  Speaker 1: going to arrive at the conclusion that for a decade,
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  Speaker 1: we don't like I mean, these analytics people don't even
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  Speaker 1: like wins. They don't even look at it as a category.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a value to them. Yeah, I think they do.
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  Speaker 1: I do, I really think they do. But that's the
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  Speaker 1: analytics community. So you know, if you want Felix in,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to have to rely on those people that
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  Speaker 1: annoy you, because that's what's going to bolster his chances.
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  Speaker 1: That's the only thing that's going to give him a
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  Speaker 1: chance to get in. And I think eventually he will.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same thing that got Edgar in
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  Speaker 1: after all those years of waiting. The analytics people. The
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  Speaker 1: influx of analytics driven voters got Edgar in eventually when
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  Speaker 1: he really for years didn't look like it was going
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  Speaker 1: to happen. But I think Felix is going to be
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  Speaker 1: buoyed by those same people. And as you said, you
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  Speaker 1: have a lot more that retire and leave, and so
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  Speaker 1: you have younger people replacing them, and odds are that
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  Speaker 1: those younger people rely on the analytics data far more
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  Speaker 1: than they do over the old school methods for trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out who's a Hall of.
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  Speaker 2: Famer or not. And unfortunately, I can pretty much guarantee
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  Speaker 2: that there's going to come a point in time that
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  Speaker 2: the analytics nerds will not vote someone in because the
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  Speaker 2: analytics didn't put them in that category for them. Whereas
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand the difficulty between it goes even to
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  Speaker 2: the Sam Darno coo, how can you not look at
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  Speaker 2: the entirety of the thing like use analytics. They weren't
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  Speaker 2: even around when I played, so I am ignorant to
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  Speaker 2: really depth of them. You could throw out some of
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  Speaker 2: these five letter you know stats, and I don't even
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  Speaker 2: know what the hell they're measuring. And yet I understand
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  Speaker 2: that there is a benefit to being able to crunch
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  Speaker 2: these different numbers. That said, there is a benefit to
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  Speaker 2: being able to trust your eyeballs. If you are a
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  Speaker 2: baseball person and be like that guy is the best
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  Speaker 2: player on the team, and if you watch that every
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  Speaker 2: single day for a decade, there's a chance he should
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  Speaker 2: get a vote, even if these sabermetrics or the analytics don't.
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  Speaker 2: Don't yell that he's better than this guy based on
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  Speaker 2: this number better. I so to me, it's I just
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  Speaker 2: can we please marry them both? Can you please say that, yes,
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  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold wasn't good at first, and yet he is good. Now,
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  Speaker 2: can you please say that that you know Felix doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have enough wins, but then again, a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: isn't his issue. And then do we have to please
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  Speaker 2: not go down this path all the way to the
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  Speaker 2: end where it's like, well, if if you don't have
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  Speaker 2: this whip number, then you can't make the Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Fame at some point in time. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: hear that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the other thing is great, was he great enough
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  Speaker 1: for long enough? You know, because there's no doubt. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think there's a baseball person on the planet that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't recognize Felix Hernandez achieved greatness in his major league
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  Speaker 1: career and for a substantial period of time. But did
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  Speaker 1: he do it long enough? I mean, that's the other
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  Speaker 1: issue that I have that they far more reward longevity
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  Speaker 1: the voters a long time being really good versus a short,
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  Speaker 1: maybe less than a decade, stint of being great. I
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  Speaker 1: think Hall of Fame should recognize greatness. I think Don
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  Speaker 1: Mattingly and Dale Murphy are no brainers for the Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame and yet they've gone through the entire process
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  Speaker 1: and are still on the outside looking in. On that
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  Speaker 1: Felix kind of belongs in this same category. He wasn't
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  Speaker 1: great into his thirties, and so that usually held against him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Carlos Beltran.
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  Speaker 1: I had to look up just how great Carlos Beltran's
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  Speaker 1: career was, and it was outstanding. But I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: tell you right now, I never at any point in
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  Speaker 1: my life watching baseball, thought Carlos Beltran was.
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  Speaker 2: Better than Dale Murphy.
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  Speaker 1: Or Don Mattingly. Never, at any time did I think
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  Speaker 1: that that was the case. And yet cumulatively, Carlos Beltran
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  Speaker 1: dwarfed both of their numbers throughout his career, so he
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  Speaker 1: was good for longer.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think he was ever as great as
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  Speaker 2: those two guys were. Well, I just remember him in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs a couple of times, being like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: he was he was that guy, right, he was that
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  Speaker 2: guy when all of a sudden the lights were the brightest.
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  Speaker 2: And again the argument of does do you a reward
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  Speaker 2: the accumulation of stats or the greatness the peak stats
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  Speaker 2: when somebody was both both? And so if somebody is
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  Speaker 2: accumulat doesn't equal whatever measure you think, then look back
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  Speaker 2: and think about And I'm not saying one year you
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  Speaker 2: can't have one awesome year when it's I young and
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  Speaker 2: be like I should be in the Hall of Fame. No,
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  Speaker 2: But if you were in the conversation for Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Fame for five years, six years, seven years, but you
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  Speaker 2: didn't accumulate great stats over the course of ten twelve years,
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  Speaker 2: then it's then there's a debate to be had. It's not.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the problem with some of the voters. Someone
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  Speaker 2: be like, Nope, I'm all about the accumulation of stats.
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  Speaker 2: Others are like now, I like, really, who was the
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  Speaker 2: greatest for their era? Can we just meld the two please?
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  Speaker 2: I just never liked the process. I just never liked
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  Speaker 2: the process.
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  Speaker 3: I get that.
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  Speaker 2: I heard last night.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: I think it was Tony corn Cornheiser that said that, And.
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  Speaker 4: I like Tony corn Tony Cornhole at.
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: First, Tony corn Tony Cornoll buck Neelius uncle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he said yesterday, he goes it's the only real
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 2: I disagree with that. I think the NFL's process is better. Yeah.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: Now they're still leaving our guy out and I want
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: to strangle them all.
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  Speaker 3: A large mistake over there.
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  Speaker 2: But major League Baseball, I think, is all.
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  Speaker 5: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Pete Rose, and I know Paul McCartney used to tell
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: me never drop names. But Pete Rose I considered a friend.
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  Speaker 1: And he his theory was either you're a Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Famer or not. Should take one vote. Yeah, now, fifteen
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  Speaker 1: years plus a Veterans committee and a and a you know,
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  Speaker 1: analytics committee and everything else and you know, and then
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  Speaker 1: we've got a review. If you didn't get in for
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  Speaker 1: thirty five years and you're already dead, should you have
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  Speaker 1: been in? I mean, he's like, either you're a Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Famer or not. One vote yes or no. You're
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  Speaker 1: either in or you're not. That that was his his theory.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: You didn't get better.
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  Speaker 2: Felix didn't get better from last year to this year.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 5: And yet his.
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  Speaker 1: Percentage jumped up twenty six percent overnight. And I think
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  Speaker 1: it's just a little bit of shortsightedness, weirdness. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: why are you voting because a guy needs to pay
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  Speaker 1: his dues? Why does he need to suffer for me?
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  Speaker 1: You're not a you're not a clear cut enough Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Famer that you should be let off the hook
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  Speaker 1: in the first decade that you're eligible.
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  Speaker 2: We gotta make you squirm. That's the kind of Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Famer you.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just silly, it is.
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  Speaker 2: I can't take it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty six percent more people vote for Felix Hernandez
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  Speaker 1: this year than last year.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: To me, he's Hall of Famer just if I haven't
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  Speaker 1: cleared that up. And obviously you feel you both feel
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  Speaker 1: the exact same way. But we shall see. That was
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  Speaker 1: a good sign yesterday, no doubt about it. All right,
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, back to the Seahawks and Rams. Something
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: we discussed a little bit yesterday, but it's gonna warrant
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: conversation all week long. The Zach Sharbonnat injury. What's it
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: gonna do to Ken Walker's workload? We'll discuss Sports Radio
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  Speaker 7: So you've picked off Sam Donald four times at your
• 12:51
  Speaker 7: place and twice up there. Why have you been so
• 12:55
  Speaker 7: successful picking the ball off against Sam Donald?
• 12:59
  Speaker 8: Our singing like we know what type of quarterback he is,
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  Speaker 8: and our D line pastor like you know, going back
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  Speaker 8: Glass in the wild Card.
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  Speaker 9: You know we got after him. The pastors got after him.
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  Speaker 8: He was in Minnesota, and you know that's always gonna
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  Speaker 8: be in the back of his head, you know what
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  Speaker 8: I'm saying. So the D line can get after him,
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  Speaker 8: we can make plays on the ball that's gonna win
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  Speaker 8: us the game.
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  Speaker 2: Do you see him get rattled?
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  Speaker 9: I fight our D line can rattle any quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 8: We got some guys on that D line on the
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  Speaker 8: edge and an interior man.
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  Speaker 9: So I feel like our d line can be expacted for.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Another cool continuing a lazy narrative out there. That was
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: Skip Bayless interviewing Cam Curl. I'll give you this Cam.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: That was an elevant interception.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah it was good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of kind of sealed that game for your team.
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  Speaker 1: That was phenomenal against the Chicago Bears.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think Cam necessarily was all that insulting
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  Speaker 1: with that answer. Pretty much just said we feel they
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  Speaker 1: can do that to any quarterback out there.
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  Speaker 2: We can rattle them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Sam Donald gets rattled either. Don't think
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  Speaker 1: that's in his makeup. He throws for our interceptions. Probably
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  Speaker 1: just made some bad throws, but usually Sam, after he
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: makes a mistake, very very next play, he lets it rip.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning to you all, Happy Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: It is hump day.
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  Speaker 1: We're count down the days to the NFC Conference Championship game.
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  Speaker 2: Let the trash talk commence.
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  Speaker 1: Chill AFC Conference Championship game will be played Sunday as well.
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  Speaker 1: That'll be the first game and it will be the
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots at the Denver Broncos, who, of course
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  Speaker 1: will be starting Jared Stidham in that game instead of
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: the injured Bo Nicks. By the way, information that I
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  Speaker 1: know Bucky will be excited to hear. Mel Kuiper's mock
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  Speaker 1: Draft one point zero is out today, officially out today.
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  Speaker 1: He's just like me with my tree at Christmas. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's just a guy that just celebrates draft miss all
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  Speaker 1: year round.
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  Speaker 10: I just love it good. I love his spirit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: hard as always. Fill Mel has been known for being premature.
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  Speaker 10: I bet he's known for it when it comes to
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  Speaker 10: this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Hey wait, well, college football Indiana celebrates its national championship. Meanwhile,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Little Mendoza, Fernando's brother Alberto transferred to Georgia Tech yesterday. Meanwhile,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Duke and Miami have themselves a Demand Williams junior situation
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  Speaker 1: on their hands, and it looks like this one's going
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: to go further than ours went up here in Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: So certainly something where monitoring. You dubs college basketball team
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  Speaker 1: has another tough Big Ten opponent to face tonight. They'll
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  Speaker 1: be on the road against Nebraska. Actually is that maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's not.
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  Speaker 2: On the road. Damn it, we looked that up.
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  Speaker 1: They're taking on Nebraska tonight at six o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: Is the game against the corn Huskers. We'll get that
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  Speaker 2: information for you. Sorry about it.
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  Speaker 1: I meant to write that down and I didn't. But
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  Speaker 1: you dub versus Sat Nebraska. They are on the road.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I think.
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  Speaker 3: It's Pinicole Arena.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you dub at Nebraska tonight. Nebraska undefeated, rank seventh
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  Speaker 1: in the country. Kracking will be taking on the Islanders
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  Speaker 1: six point thirty. They'll drop the puck on that crack
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  Speaker 1: and need a win. We'll talk to al Kiniski about
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  Speaker 1: it later on in the show. Felix Hernandez moved a
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  Speaker 1: lot closer to make the Hall of Fame yesterday. He
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  Speaker 1: went from twenty percent of the vote to forty six
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: percent of the vote this year. It might seem like
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: a far cry from the seventy five percent that is needed,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: but Andrew Jones and Carlos Beltran, two guys that did
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: get into the Hall of Fame yesterday, also started with
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: very humble percentages when the process began. And look where
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: they are now. They are in Cooperstown. So actually a
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: good day on the Felix Hall of Fame watch yesterday.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller also avoided arbitration with the Mariners. He agreed
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: to a deal with an option next year in his
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: arbitration proceedings in his arbitration years, So actually a little
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: good news on a couple different fronts for the Mariners
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: organization yesterday.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk to Greg with the Bell tolls.
• 17:29
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• 17:51
  Speaker 1: All right, joining us Now our Seahawks insider Greg Bell.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: You doing all right?
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: Bell? Fine?
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, good morning to you.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: Everything.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we just want to hasn't been a customary morning.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I don't want to give away any information, but hasn't
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: been a customary morning for Greg here today?
• 18:11
  Speaker 12: No?
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: Is it morning?
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's morning. It's morning.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: First I will say that.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Uh, well, do you want to reveal it or do
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you want to not reveal it?
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: Uh, that's fine.
• 18:28
  Speaker 13: I'm a medical center, Okay, I'm admitted, admitted with a
• 18:32
  Speaker 13: hand infection out of nowhere that they're trying to avoid
• 18:35
  Speaker 13: surgery on.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I got IVS dripping.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't want you to have to mention
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: that information.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: But it does really paint a picture about Greg Bell.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I got talk about a Seahawks insider. He's like, I
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: got IVS hooked up to me. But I am coming
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: on the radio show. It's Conference Championship week, by gum.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I still like, still my commitments, A man of his word. Well, well,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: sorry to hear that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Sorry, it's not exactly an ideal morning for you, but
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: it is good to hear from you, and so we
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: might as well do this thing here today. Well, you
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: don't have zach Sharbon he sitting next to you in
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the hospital, do you.
• 19:18
  Speaker 14: Okay, Oh, we did mention this yesterday with you, but
• 19:25
  Speaker 14: we were just discussing it on the show again here
• 19:28
  Speaker 14: this morning.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: So I'll start with it. And that is just how
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: large will the workload do you think be for Ken
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Walker after twenty four hours to investigate this?
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: I would think season high, Chuck.
• 19:42
  Speaker 13: I mean, this is his time, and because they paced
• 19:45
  Speaker 13: him through the whole season, this is actually a He's
• 19:50
  Speaker 13: fresher than a lot of times at this point of
• 19:53
  Speaker 13: the year. And we've we talked about managing the foot
• 19:56
  Speaker 13: issue that he had in August in September, and he
• 19:59
  Speaker 13: had fewer percentage a lot lesser percentage of offensive snaps
• 20:04
  Speaker 13: than did Jack Charbonnay For most of the season, two
• 20:07
  Speaker 13: minute drills and third downs were Charbonna's goal line. With
• 20:11
  Speaker 13: Charbonna's he had twelve touchdowns. Charbonny did first double digit
• 20:15
  Speaker 13: a season with touchdowns in Seattle since Marshawn Lynch in
• 20:19
  Speaker 13: twenty fourteen. So Walker's been kind of idling in half
• 20:24
  Speaker 13: the game. I mean, he'll do between the twenties and
• 20:27
  Speaker 13: then walk off the field.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: So if he's ever.
• 20:31
  Speaker 13: Been ready for a full oad in January, it's this year.
• 20:34
  Speaker 13: This is the first season he's played all seventeen games,
• 20:37
  Speaker 13: and that was a big thing for him that he
• 20:39
  Speaker 13: wants to be able to go into his contract negotiation
• 20:42
  Speaker 13: to talk about that. He changed agents this week, which
• 20:45
  Speaker 13: I thought is interesting. He had David Canter and his
• 20:49
  Speaker 13: group down in Florida. He got ridy, he fired and
• 20:54
  Speaker 13: changed agents from the ones he had since his rookie year.
• 20:57
  Speaker 13: So he's got an eye toward what's next, and he
• 21:00
  Speaker 13: has a gigantic chance to prove to the league what
• 21:04
  Speaker 13: his worth is. The Seahawks have the ability, of course,
• 21:08
  Speaker 13: to get him re signed before free agency starts in March.
• 21:12
  Speaker 13: They've been waiting to see if he could last an
• 21:14
  Speaker 13: entire season and be productive, and we saw the San
• 21:18
  Speaker 13: Francisco game last weekend how productive he is right now.
• 21:21
  Speaker 13: If he can get anything close to that, it's really
• 21:24
  Speaker 13: going to help Seattle's chances get to the super Bowl,
• 21:27
  Speaker 13: especially with Darnold still managing the injury.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I mean, yeah's just pretend that he can
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: go out there and carry the rock. Twenty twenty five times,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: maybe still catch it to you know, three, four or
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: five times out of the backfield. There's gonna have to
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: be a time when he's not when he has tap
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: his help and he has to come out. So is
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: George Olawney back from being injured or is it the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Velis Jones or is this one where you nope, if
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: he's if he's too tired, we're just going to pass
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: or maybe hand it off to Rashid.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: No, there'll be a second running back come in.
• 22:00
  Speaker 13: Elis Jones was the one who came in in the
• 22:02
  Speaker 13: San Francisco game last weekend. Cam Akers, the former Rams
• 22:06
  Speaker 13: lead running back, is still on the practice squad. We'll
• 22:09
  Speaker 13: find out more today. If George Hallani comes off injured
• 22:12
  Speaker 13: reserve and is designated to return to practice, they have
• 22:15
  Speaker 13: to do that before you can even get on the
• 22:17
  Speaker 13: field of practice.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: Then they would have to add him to the active
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: roster BEFO you could play.
• 22:21
  Speaker 13: The obvious move would be sharpening onto injured reserve and
• 22:25
  Speaker 13: then Halani off of I R under the active roster
• 22:27
  Speaker 13: to play on Sunday. They just haven't gotten to that
• 22:30
  Speaker 13: step yet. He's got to practice a few days before
• 22:32
  Speaker 13: they get there.
• 22:33
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• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, he had one terrible game against the sea
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Hawks in which they they won that game, and then
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: he had one excellent game in which they lost to
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks. So is in the game of chess? I mean,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: what is Mike McDonald? What did he learn from the
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: first two performances against Matt Stafford.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Well, he learned well.
• 23:25
  Speaker 13: As I mentioned yesterday, he learned that he gave his
• 23:27
  Speaker 13: defense too much in that second meeting and confused him.
• 23:31
  Speaker 13: It was a short week, a Thursday game after Sunday game,
• 23:34
  Speaker 13: and he said that really he thought was the reason
• 23:37
  Speaker 13: they gave up five hundred plus yards thirty seven points.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: The Stafford that played in November.
• 23:43
  Speaker 13: Is actually against them in Inglewood is actually more what
• 23:46
  Speaker 13: Stafford has been here the last four or five weeks.
• 23:49
  Speaker 13: As I mentioned yesterday, he's been under sixty percent three
• 23:52
  Speaker 13: of the last four games. He was under fifty percent
• 23:54
  Speaker 13: in Chicago the other night, and an MVP candidate that
• 23:58
  Speaker 13: the most important game of the season and that it's
• 24:01
  Speaker 13: not normal to be under fifty percent.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: So there's something up with him.
• 24:05
  Speaker 13: And there's some encouraging signs that for the Seahawks that
• 24:09
  Speaker 13: this is not the same Rams team that rampaged in
• 24:12
  Speaker 13: here with the thirty seven points and five and eighty
• 24:14
  Speaker 13: one yards a month ago, especially offensively and even defensively.
• 24:19
  Speaker 13: They gave up a lot of yards the game after
• 24:21
  Speaker 13: that inst Atlanta, they could have lost easily their first
• 24:24
  Speaker 13: round playoff game, give it up about thirty points to
• 24:27
  Speaker 13: the Panthers, and then you saw what Caleb Williams and
• 24:30
  Speaker 13: the Bears did with the game on the line, And
• 24:31
  Speaker 13: they were even moving down in overtime heading into field
• 24:35
  Speaker 13: goal Rams until Williams got greedy and threw the ball deep.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: The Rams are a different team now every game.
• 24:42
  Speaker 13: No two games are the same, so we'll see where
• 24:44
  Speaker 13: it actually ends up on Sunday, but the Seahawks won't
• 24:48
  Speaker 13: be the same. They probably aren't going to go thirty
• 24:51
  Speaker 13: seven points and they probably aren't going to score thirty
• 24:54
  Speaker 13: eight on Sunday either, but it's a different Rams team.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: I'm with you.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that I've I've seen Sam Darnald
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: the last few weeks. When I've seen him, I mean
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: obviously last week in the playoffs, and what in two weeks,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I think he's looked like he's missed some open guys,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: which usually he doesn't majority of the season he had,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: so it could be from that finger injury when he
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: hit his his finger on a helmet or whatever. But
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I think you have to go into it assuming he's
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: going to be this Matt Stafford, and so how does
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: this defense, what adjustment does this defense make because you
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: have to be able to contain Pukunaku if I think,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: if I don't think you can expect all the things
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: to go well or right down the stretch for you
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: to win a game if you allow him to catch
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: you know, two hundred twenty five yards and a couple
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: of touchdowns.
• 25:40
  Speaker 13: Yeah, Yeah, they got pressure Stafford and affect him, and
• 25:43
  Speaker 13: that's the key to the game.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: He's at an age where he's not.
• 25:46
  Speaker 13: Going to elude past rushers anyway.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: That'll be the key.
• 25:51
  Speaker 13: Can they get Stafford to throw the ball more quickly
• 25:53
  Speaker 13: than he wants to and Nakua can't run twenty yard
• 25:57
  Speaker 13: crossing routes because that takes time to do. And if
• 26:00
  Speaker 13: you've got the front floor they've been doing is what
• 26:02
  Speaker 13: they've done most of the season, then the Seahawks would
• 26:06
  Speaker 13: be in good shape of getting Stafford to get the ball.
• 26:09
  Speaker 13: Problem that Thursday night game is they weren't doing it
• 26:11
  Speaker 13: a few times this season. That was a large reason
• 26:14
  Speaker 13: why mccooh went wild. Deep crossers behind the linebackers in
• 26:18
  Speaker 13: front of the safeties is what really killed the Seahawks,
• 26:21
  Speaker 13: and they were hoping that pressure can take a lot
• 26:24
  Speaker 13: of the deep game away.
• 26:26
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  Speaker 2: There's something I mean. Rams seemed to be talking a
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: little bit of trash this week.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Which is a little surprising. Seem like San Francisco was
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: as well. How do the Seahawks players, how's that locker room?
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: It sounds like that they do kind of like to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: mix it up that that does kind of stir it
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: up for them. How do the Seahawks players in twenty
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: twenty six respond in your estimation to trash talk.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: On the field, they're right in it. I mean they're
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: like they're major. They major in it.
• 27:04
  Speaker 13: Yeah, on the field, not so much, not so much
• 27:07
  Speaker 13: between games, and McDonald really does try to steering away
• 27:10
  Speaker 13: from that. But they do their fair share during the games.
• 27:16
  Speaker 13: But McDonald really does try to discourage him from the
• 27:19
  Speaker 13: extracurriculars and to focus on themselves. He calls it noise,
• 27:23
  Speaker 13: and he really tries to minimize the noise during the week.
• 27:26
  Speaker 13: You're right, the other teams have been wolfing then in
• 27:28
  Speaker 13: between games, and some of that's a product because there's
• 27:31
  Speaker 13: six games between games and then Seahawks game seven. But
• 27:36
  Speaker 13: oh yeah, you'll see Wheerspool and Woolen and even Ernest
• 27:41
  Speaker 13: Jones yelling across the line at as former players, and they'll.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Be wolfing quite a bit Saturday the Sunday.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Is there sample size? We've seen two games this year.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I guess we can include the postseason game last year
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: with Sam Darnold against their Rams. I mean, the low
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: hanging fruit for a lot of people is just to
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: think that this guy's his turnal is, that's who he
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: is versus the guy that's won fifteen games so far
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: this season and is sitting with his team with home
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: field advantage to the Super Bowl. So which is it
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: for you or what are your opinion on this? Is
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: this an issue a RAMS issue or is it just yeah,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: he's throwing a few picks against them and yet that
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: happens to every quarterback.
• 28:21
  Speaker 13: Well, it wasn't a Rams issue when they scored thirty
• 28:23
  Speaker 13: eight one in overtime. So I think that game really
• 28:28
  Speaker 13: boosted the trust in the locker room that this guy
• 28:31
  Speaker 13: can win. I mean, that was a game for the
• 28:32
  Speaker 13: division title. They lose that game, they don't win a division,
• 28:35
  Speaker 13: they don't have home playoff games, they're not playing this
• 28:37
  Speaker 13: title game in Seattle. They don't have the number one seed.
• 28:41
  Speaker 13: And he came through. They were on sixteen of rashichha
• 28:44
  Speaker 13: Heat's pumb return helped them, But.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: That RAMS game really told them.
• 28:49
  Speaker 13: Something in the locker room. I think the results speak
• 28:53
  Speaker 13: for themselves. It's wins and freaking losses, is my buddy
• 28:56
  Speaker 13: ken Walker used to tell me. And twenty nine wins
• 29:00
  Speaker 13: in the last two years. Yeah, he've got his first
• 29:04
  Speaker 13: playoff win last week. But you in the NFL. You
• 29:07
  Speaker 13: don't accidentally win twenty nine games in two seasons. You're
• 29:11
  Speaker 13: as a quarterback with the guy in then has the
• 29:14
  Speaker 13: ball in his hand all the time, you're doing something right.
• 29:17
  Speaker 13: And that's something more times than not for the Seahawks
• 29:20
  Speaker 13: is when he doesn't turn the ball over, they win
• 29:22
  Speaker 13: rather easily. And that's what they did both games against
• 29:25
  Speaker 13: San Francisco. That will be the key again Sunday. You
• 29:29
  Speaker 13: give the ram you give any team, but if you
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: give the Rams a short field, they're going to score touchdowns,
• 29:33
  Speaker 13: not field goals.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: And that's going to be the key.
• 29:37
  Speaker 13: Just don't give them short fields. And they have a
• 29:38
  Speaker 13: defense to Seahawks that we've been talking about super Bowl
• 29:42
  Speaker 13: quality that's not going to give up too many eighty
• 29:44
  Speaker 13: plus yard seventy five plus yard drives to allow seven points.
• 29:48
  Speaker 13: That'll be the key on Sunday, Just don't give them
• 29:50
  Speaker 13: short fields.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: In the NFL's toughest beat rider Greg Bell with us
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: right here on chalking back in the morning, I'll close
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: with this. I mean, the head coaching cycle, the obvious
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: names have kind of already come off the board. It
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't look like Mike Tomlin is interested in coaching anywhere
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: going forward. And now it sounds like teams like the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Ravens and the Steelers and the Bills are willing to
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: kind of wait. Are they waiting for more names to
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: become available? Are they waiting for Clint Kubiak? Is it
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: looking pretty clear that he's going to land one of
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: these jobs this offseason.
• 30:28
  Speaker 13: I've been hearing that the Ravens are really interested in him,
• 30:31
  Speaker 13: and they may be waiting for him. But I'm just
• 30:34
  Speaker 13: not sold that this is his time or the opportunity
• 30:38
  Speaker 13: for him. I don't know that. But he again, has
• 30:42
  Speaker 13: only been in jobs for no more than two seasons.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: He has to have all that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 13: Much of play calling experience in the league. He's thirty
• 30:50
  Speaker 13: eight years old, the same age as Mike McDonald. I
• 30:53
  Speaker 13: wouldn't say it's a slam done, but I have heard that.
• 30:56
  Speaker 13: I've been told that the Ravens are particularly interested, and
• 31:00
  Speaker 13: that that may be why they are waiting in particular
• 31:02
  Speaker 13: in that particular instance. But we'll see. He doesn't strike
• 31:07
  Speaker 13: me off the top as a head coach right now.
• 31:11
  Speaker 13: But look, Ben Johnson, Mike McDonald, Sean McVay back in
• 31:16
  Speaker 13: the day when he was like twenty years older.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: Whatever, he was thirty years old.
• 31:20
  Speaker 13: But the trend is to go inexperienced and younger, and
• 31:24
  Speaker 13: that Kulbeck would fit that boy.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: That'd be something.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: If your first head coaching job in the NFL and
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: you're an offensive minded head coach, you get to coach
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: either Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: That's not bad. It's not a bad way to get
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: it going.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, rest up, recover, and we will talk
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: to you soon, hopefully from the comfort of your own
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: bedroom tomorrow morning.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: I hope. So Ruby here in the hospital is pretty
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: mad at me.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Oh no, oh, no, oh no, I have a good one.
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• 32:03
  Speaker 1: That just we didn't even know that was happening. So
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: at that point you're like, well, do we let him go?
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Does he want to do it? I don't think he
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: would have answered his phone if he didn't want to
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: do it, right?
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Were we not good friends right there? What happened? No,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: We're good friends. He wanted He's type is gonna want
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: to stick to I think he made his commitment. He
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: wants to do what he can do. It's he just
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: plugged into an IV. Yeah, and his roommate probably I'm
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: sure he said, Hey, you gotta do an interview on
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the radio real quick. Who gets mad when you do that?
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like he's in a Starbucks.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: The problem was he had had a roommate I guess
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: in the yeah, yeah, medical center.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe the roommate's a RAMS fan.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Why don't maybe the roommate Now just learn more about
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks plan on Sunday.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I'm excited about it.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: They have something to talk about.
• 32:51
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• 33:43
  Speaker 15: That we use.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Man, we're really proud of Mike Holgern and Hugh Millen
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: and the group. But man, it was like we had
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the number one pick in the analyst draft this year
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: for the postseason, and we landed quarterback Matt Hasselbeck with
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the selection.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: It was a no brainer. I was really I'm really
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: glad that we sucked so much last year in order
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: to get this number one draft pick. You know, I mean,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I put in a lot of effort to tank our
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: our show last year. But it's worked out. We got
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Hassleback out of.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: It, joining us now former quarterback of your Seattle Seahawks.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: It's number eight to eight throughout the postseason. Matt Hasselback.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Good to see you.
• 34:21
  Speaker 16: What I was reminded of tank for two That was
• 34:23
  Speaker 16: the thing for the Jets fans one year. So I
• 34:27
  Speaker 16: was picked one eighty seven when I came out in
• 34:28
  Speaker 16: the real draft, So I appreciate that.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: What's it feel like to go number one?
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 34:33
  Speaker 16: I really appreciate it. Like pick one eighty seven, Tom
• 34:36
  Speaker 16: Brady was one ninety nine. He still got the chip
• 34:38
  Speaker 16: on his shoulder. I was one eighty seven, six thrown pick,
• 34:41
  Speaker 16: probably still have that chip on my shoulder as well.
• 34:43
  Speaker 16: So it felt good. I appreciate you, Bucky. That's uh,
• 34:46
  Speaker 16: that's big a tear to my eye.
• 34:48
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Well it took a lot for me, basically just a
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: snore on the air and whatnot. But I did it
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: because I knew you were waiting there, you're ready to
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: come out.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: His analysis was horrible, man, I mean he really worked.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Art is shocking for you. So we paid off.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I mean give us your reaction to
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: what you saw Saturday night from the Seahawks.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Against the forty nine ers.
• 35:12
  Speaker 16: All let's just talk about the first play, like the
• 35:15
  Speaker 16: kickoff return. I've been in the locker room like so
• 35:18
  Speaker 16: many times, you know, you hear the talk about special
• 35:21
  Speaker 16: teams and they'll say, all right, kickoff return team, you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 16: give us some good field position.
• 35:26
  Speaker 15: Let's see if we can get out to the thirty five.
• 35:28
  Speaker 16: You know, like that would be crazy, you know, like
• 35:30
  Speaker 16: take it to the forty you know something like that.
• 35:33
  Speaker 16: You don't even like dream big enough to be like
• 35:35
  Speaker 16: we're taking this one to the house, you know, and
• 35:38
  Speaker 16: maybe these guys do Jay Harbaugh company.
• 35:39
  Speaker 15: They've been incredible. Rashi Shihi coming over in the trade.
• 35:43
  Speaker 16: I mean, to be in that stadium at that moment
• 35:46
  Speaker 16: when you take the opening kickback in such a big game,
• 35:49
  Speaker 16: it just had to be. It had to be one
• 35:52
  Speaker 16: of those moments that you just remember forever like that.
• 35:54
  Speaker 16: That's what it was. And playing it with a lead
• 35:56
  Speaker 16: against the Niners is the key. They're not built to
• 35:59
  Speaker 16: come from behind, So that was a great start.
• 36:02
  Speaker 15: It was like just a commanding just a runaway win.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Loved it. How big is it when you do something
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: early in a game like that. I mean, whether it's
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: against a division foe or in a playoff game, but
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: just the idea of like, oh, the shell shock part
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: of it. You're coming in on the road, you're hobbled
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: with injuries like the Niners were, and they you know,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: it's not one of those all right, we got to
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: hang around and then hope for something at the end
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: where we can pull this thing out. You just find yourself.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're out there, your offense hasn't even you know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: your team hasn't even came on the field yet, and
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: you're already down seven zip.
• 36:35
  Speaker 16: Well, it's huge against that team in that matchup, right,
• 36:37
  Speaker 16: they're already, like you said, they're beat up, and your
• 36:39
  Speaker 16: quarterbacks beat up, Like your quarterback hasn't thrown a football
• 36:42
  Speaker 16: in two days. Going into that game. You don't know
• 36:44
  Speaker 16: if Sam Darnold can play, you know. As teammates, you know,
• 36:47
  Speaker 16: and I've had the oblique injury. Like as a player,
• 36:49
  Speaker 16: you're not sure either, Like you're not in pain, so
• 36:51
  Speaker 16: you're like, oh, I should be good to go. I'm
• 36:53
  Speaker 16: not in pain, but like you don't know if the
• 36:54
  Speaker 16: muscle that you need to throw works. And so like
• 36:57
  Speaker 16: when the other phases step up and you make a
• 37:00
  Speaker 16: team like the Niners one dimensional, like they got a
• 37:02
  Speaker 16: great Kyle Shannyon has known for this like kind of
• 37:05
  Speaker 16: creative run game, you know, build everything off the run
• 37:08
  Speaker 16: game play action, you know, smoking mirrors all that, Like
• 37:11
  Speaker 16: you can't do that anymore. You turn them into a
• 37:13
  Speaker 16: drop back passing team with our pass rush, with our
• 37:16
  Speaker 16: front four.
• 37:16
  Speaker 15: You're turning those guys loose. It's huge. Now, I don't
• 37:20
  Speaker 15: know that it's as big in every game.
• 37:21
  Speaker 16: You know, you play a team like you're about to
• 37:24
  Speaker 16: play and you could be up twenty one. Nothing in
• 37:25
  Speaker 16: the game's not over, you know, like that's you got
• 37:28
  Speaker 16: a gun slinger back there with with major, major weapons
• 37:31
  Speaker 16: on the outside, and you know, you know, a whiz
• 37:34
  Speaker 16: kid head coach, play caller, designer. It's a little different.
• 37:37
  Speaker 16: Every game is different. But for that game in San
• 37:40
  Speaker 16: fran rivalry game, they're chippy. They'd like to talk a
• 37:43
  Speaker 16: lot of smack. You know, you just embarrass them and
• 37:47
  Speaker 16: you bullied them. That was pretty cool.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck is with US number eight at eight throughout
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: the postseason, right here at Chuck and Buck in the mornings.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: So now that he's the number one pick, he might
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: not analyze with that chip on his shoulder. It might
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: go to his heads. So we'll see. We'll test him
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: here over the next few weeks. I'll put that to plural.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Sam Donald. I mean, had I not
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: known he had an oblique injury, I wouldn't have been
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: able to tell. Did you pick up on anything that
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: he was doing differently to maybe protect it or anything
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: the coaching staff was doing differently to protect him.
• 38:21
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I thought he was cautious early, which is understandable.
• 38:24
  Speaker 16: You know, I think there was a sack in there
• 38:26
  Speaker 16: where normally you'd see him just kind of cut it loose,
• 38:29
  Speaker 16: maybe even throw it away, you know, And that's all
• 38:32
  Speaker 16: part of it. I do think one of the things
• 38:34
  Speaker 16: that was encouraging. It seemed to get better, not worse
• 38:36
  Speaker 16: as the game went on. So that's that's encouraging. And
• 38:39
  Speaker 16: I think, you know, the extra rest. I think it'd
• 38:41
  Speaker 16: be also really interesting to read about and to hear
• 38:46
  Speaker 16: how many.
• 38:46
  Speaker 15: Reps Drew Locke gets this week.
• 38:48
  Speaker 16: You know, like, if Drew lock is still taking a
• 38:50
  Speaker 16: bunch of reps this week, then that tells you something.
• 38:53
  Speaker 16: If it's you know, business as usual and Sam Donald's
• 38:56
  Speaker 16: taking all the all the snaps in practice, you know,
• 38:59
  Speaker 16: that tells you something else. But no, he had a
• 39:01
  Speaker 16: couple of throws in that game that out route uh
• 39:03
  Speaker 16: to the left hand side, that first big one that
• 39:06
  Speaker 16: was huge, and then obviously the touchdown on the move
• 39:08
  Speaker 16: to his left to JSN and back of the end zone.
• 39:11
  Speaker 15: That was another one where it was.
• 39:13
  Speaker 16: Like, Okay, we're good, he's got he's got the throws
• 39:15
  Speaker 16: that he needs today, and and and and also I
• 39:19
  Speaker 16: think you just played a clean game, you know, which
• 39:21
  Speaker 16: is which is another thing you need to do when
• 39:22
  Speaker 16: you have a defense playing the way that our defense
• 39:24
  Speaker 16: is playing.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it helps when you're up thirty five by the
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: end of the game. Certainly, how would he feel the
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: following week? I mean, since you've had this injury before,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe there's treatment that's done that you know,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: numbs it so he's not feeling it as much. But
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: when you wake up that next day and after practice
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: again the next week, what did it feel like for you?
• 39:43
  Speaker 16: Yeah, that's the thing about this kind of an injury.
• 39:45
  Speaker 16: It's really not a pain tolerance thing. It's just more
• 39:48
  Speaker 16: about does the muscle work, you know, And that's that's
• 39:51
  Speaker 16: the you know, I've I've played with some injuries that uh,
• 39:53
  Speaker 16: you know that were like really really painful and you know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 16: broken bones and stuff like that also, but this one
• 39:59
  Speaker 16: is just like you just no, I'm fine, I'm totally
• 40:01
  Speaker 16: good except for one thing, and that's kind of throwing
• 40:04
  Speaker 16: a fastball. And one thing I do know I can
• 40:08
  Speaker 16: speak to this is that the athletic training sort of
• 40:12
  Speaker 16: team that's in Seattle with the Seahawks is as good
• 40:16
  Speaker 16: as it comes. And even on the orthopedic side, you
• 40:20
  Speaker 16: share you know, Ed Calfane doctor ed Calpane. You share
• 40:24
  Speaker 16: a head orthopedic with the Mariners, So there were a
• 40:28
  Speaker 16: lot of times with in my you know, injury where
• 40:32
  Speaker 16: I had someone who was really experienced in dealing with throwers,
• 40:37
  Speaker 16: and that's not always the case on every NFL team,
• 40:40
  Speaker 16: And so I do think that's an advantage that the
• 40:42
  Speaker 16: Seahawks have and that Sam Donald in this case has Matt.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I'm going to stay on the Sam Donald thing and
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: just kind of because I he see all kinds of
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: analysts and talking heads out there that want to stick
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: to this turnover issue that he has or whatever, and
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: to me, it's, well, that's the risk that you take
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: for the reward that you get. I mean, this team
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: has been about as potent as anybody as far as
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: being able to put up points quicken in a hurry
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: throughout the course of the season. And so when you
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: watch him, do you want more more of a hesitation
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: to make sure that you don't turn the ball over
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: or do you want him just to rip it? And
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: what did you see last week in the limited amount
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: of throws that he made while the game was still
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: somewhat up in the air.
• 41:24
  Speaker 15: Yeah, well, let's just.
• 41:25
  Speaker 16: Talk about you know, all the games really, I mean
• 41:28
  Speaker 16: Buffalo lost because they turned the ball over. Chicago lost
• 41:31
  Speaker 16: because they turned the ball over. San fran You know,
• 41:33
  Speaker 16: obviously you saw how they played CJ.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Stroud.
• 41:37
  Speaker 16: He's out in four interceptions in the first half. So
• 41:40
  Speaker 16: like that is a formula, and that is a thing.
• 41:42
  Speaker 16: But playing defensive and playing kind of scared, playing like
• 41:46
  Speaker 16: you're at you know, a sixteen and a half year
• 41:49
  Speaker 16: old a driver's head, Like, that's not the safest way
• 41:52
  Speaker 16: to drive. It's not the safest way to play quarterback.
• 41:55
  Speaker 16: The safest way to drive is to be a little
• 41:57
  Speaker 16: bit aggressive, be decisive, and you know, like in you know,
• 42:03
  Speaker 16: cut it loose a little bit in a sense. And
• 42:05
  Speaker 16: I think that's the same thing for a quarterback. Throw
• 42:08
  Speaker 16: whatever throw you want to throw, but throw it with
• 42:10
  Speaker 16: one hundred percent conviction. Don't throw it like it's you know,
• 42:13
  Speaker 16: a grenade or like yeah, maybe you know a bunch
• 42:16
  Speaker 16: of people get hurt here, like or like it's horseshoes,
• 42:18
  Speaker 16: like it's kind of close.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: It's not that.
• 42:20
  Speaker 16: Like you need to be a confident, precise, have a
• 42:25
  Speaker 16: plan thrower, and and if you do that, like good
• 42:29
  Speaker 16: stuff happens.
• 42:29
  Speaker 15: And even even sometimes an incompletion can happen.
• 42:33
  Speaker 16: But this idea of like a fifty to fifty ball
• 42:36
  Speaker 16: or like, oh I got pressure in my face. I
• 42:37
  Speaker 16: got to get the ball out of my hand, can't
• 42:39
  Speaker 16: take a sack, Like no, it's not just that, like
• 42:42
  Speaker 16: you got to throw it somewhere with conviction. And then
• 42:45
  Speaker 16: I do think there's this there's this saying that always
• 42:48
  Speaker 16: always helped me when I had a good defense and
• 42:52
  Speaker 16: I had a good punter, Like it's okay to let
• 42:54
  Speaker 16: our punter punt, It's okay to give our defense a
• 42:58
  Speaker 16: long field to but what's not okay is to have
• 43:02
  Speaker 16: a sudden change and give our defense a short field
• 43:04
  Speaker 16: to defend and not let our punter do his job.
• 43:08
  Speaker 16: And in that mindset too, is like it's a it's
• 43:11
  Speaker 16: a freeing thing to know, like, hey, listen, if this
• 43:15
  Speaker 16: series didn't work out, let our kicker kick, let our
• 43:18
  Speaker 16: punter punt in. I'll get the ball again next next,
• 43:22
  Speaker 16: next time around.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: It's number eight at eight.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck with us throughout the postseason Wednesdays at eight
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: o'clock right here on Chuck and Buck in the morning,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the other quarterback Matt Staffords had an
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: MVP year. He's forty years old. For goodness sake, he's
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: seen it all. He's won a Super Bowl. I mean,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: there's no chance, I don't care how good the defensive
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: opponent is that he's gonna wet himself on the field
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: on Sunday or soil his armor.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: But have you had, I know, you've had that experience
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: where you're getting ready for a big game and you
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: watch the film and you put on the film of
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: that Seahawks defense and the way that they played last week.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: What's Matt Stafford thinking right now?
• 44:03
  Speaker 16: Well, you know, it's interesting how his season started like
• 44:06
  Speaker 16: he had a back injury and missed all the training camp,
• 44:09
  Speaker 16: and you know, he's almost forty, and people were freaking out.
• 44:12
  Speaker 16: You know, I was like, oh, this doesn't look good.
• 44:14
  Speaker 16: Whatever he did, he looks like he's aging in reverse.
• 44:17
  Speaker 16: This is the best I've seen him look.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: During a year.
• 44:20
  Speaker 16: At the end of the year, you know, whatever a
• 44:24
  Speaker 16: lickxir he's on, I need to get on it myself.
• 44:26
  Speaker 16: That dude is aging in reverse and looking as good
• 44:28
  Speaker 16: as I mean, he's the best year he's ever had, really,
• 44:30
  Speaker 16: and so he's on fire. Last time we played this game.
• 44:35
  Speaker 16: You know, I don't think he's intimidated by this defense.
• 44:37
  Speaker 16: You know, whether he should or shouldn't be. I don't
• 44:39
  Speaker 16: think he is, because the last time he played him
• 44:41
  Speaker 16: in Seattle, he had no Devonte Adams and he threw
• 44:44
  Speaker 16: twelve completions to Puka Nakua for two hundred and twenty
• 44:47
  Speaker 16: five yards and touchdown like he had no issue.
• 44:50
  Speaker 15: I don't think he's.
• 44:53
  Speaker 16: I don't think he's, you know, necessarily concerned about it.
• 44:56
  Speaker 16: I would say this though, if I'm the Seahawks defense
• 44:58
  Speaker 16: and I'm watching him. He is a gunslinger, and there's
• 45:01
  Speaker 16: a saying in quarterback rooms catch the ones he throws
• 45:04
  Speaker 16: to you. If you just catch the opportunities that a
• 45:10
  Speaker 16: quarterback throws to you with over tips and overthrows, you
• 45:13
  Speaker 16: would lead the league in interceptions every year.
• 45:16
  Speaker 15: So this is one of those games for the defense.
• 45:18
  Speaker 16: Where it's not about batting balls down or celebrating when
• 45:22
  Speaker 16: there's an incompletion. It's going to be one of those
• 45:24
  Speaker 16: games where when the ball comes our way and we
• 45:27
  Speaker 16: have an opportunity with a gun slinging quarterback, we got
• 45:30
  Speaker 16: to turn those incompletions into interceptions. And that's what the
• 45:33
  Speaker 16: mindset has to be because he is.
• 45:35
  Speaker 15: Not afraid to throw it anywhere, and he's proven that.
• 45:38
  Speaker 15: He proved it last week in Chicago.
• 45:40
  Speaker 16: Chicago had many opportunities to come away with interceptions and
• 45:45
  Speaker 16: the ball just hit the ground.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Well, if he doesn't share for you his youthful secrets,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I've got the perfect recipe.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: For looking older. If you ever wanted that, I got
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: it down.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like no sleep, drink too much vodka, Fountain
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: of Age, data side path and I mean, yeah, that
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: is a wonderful comedy.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can write it down for you. If
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: you do want to look older, Matt, don't do it.
• 46:10
  Speaker 15: I'm good, I'm good, Thank you though good.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I mean this defense is playing well. Seahawks defense is
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: playing well. One of the ways in which that happens, obviously,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: is keeping Matt Stafford off the field or getting them
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: off the field as soon as possible, and then on
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: the other hand, holding on to it as long as
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: you can and going down and getting points. Ken Walker
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: is going to be thrust into the just plain and
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: simple number one guy, Zach Sharburney out, how big of
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: an ask is that to ask somebody that averages thirteen
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: carries a game. You know, he usually gets a couple
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: of catches in there too, But you're saying, hey, dude,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be more than twenty maybe more than twenty five.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to carry the water on this thing.
• 46:51
  Speaker 16: Yeah, there's a lot of things that I think the
• 46:52
  Speaker 16: Seahawks have done this year that they don't get credit for.
• 46:55
  Speaker 15: You mentioned the defense quickly.
• 46:56
  Speaker 16: There not a lot of penalties on these guys, Like
• 46:59
  Speaker 16: they're not not not defensive passing interference. I think they
• 47:02
  Speaker 16: practice well and I think that's one of the reasons
• 47:04
  Speaker 16: that they're not penalized a lot.
• 47:06
  Speaker 15: I think they also show a lot of poise.
• 47:08
  Speaker 16: You know, they were baited into so many things this
• 47:10
  Speaker 16: last game against the Niners, and they were above it.
• 47:13
  Speaker 16: It was like the Mission over the Bs, you know,
• 47:15
  Speaker 16: mob mentality type thing like that.
• 47:17
  Speaker 15: I think another area that the Seahawks are next level.
• 47:20
  Speaker 16: You mentioned the running back situation ken Walker and Zach
• 47:23
  Speaker 16: Sharbonet all season long. Part of it was to share
• 47:26
  Speaker 16: the load in a little one two punch, but I think
• 47:28
  Speaker 16: another part of it was to make sure that ken Walker,
• 47:31
  Speaker 16: the number one running back, was as fresh as he
• 47:33
  Speaker 16: could be going into the end of the season. Here
• 47:36
  Speaker 16: we are a long season, two more games to go.
• 47:39
  Speaker 16: He's you know, he hasn't had to carry all the
• 47:41
  Speaker 16: water by himself. It's been the Charbonnet show at times.
• 47:45
  Speaker 16: So you know, if he does have to carry the
• 47:47
  Speaker 16: load for this next two games, I think he is
• 47:50
  Speaker 16: as fresh, you know, with load management. I think the
• 47:53
  Speaker 16: Seahawks are next level, you know, chessnut checkers in that regard.
• 47:56
  Speaker 16: At the same time, I do think there's some good
• 47:59
  Speaker 16: talent in the running back room that if they need
• 48:03
  Speaker 16: to kind of share that load of what sharbon Ay was.
• 48:07
  Speaker 15: I think they can do it.
• 48:08
  Speaker 16: So best game that that ken Walker had on the
• 48:12
  Speaker 16: year was last week, reminding me of Shawn Alexander a
• 48:15
  Speaker 16: little bit, like we're running outside zone way to the right.
• 48:17
  Speaker 16: The moment he gets the handoff, he's cutting it all
• 48:20
  Speaker 16: the way back to the left and no one's there
• 48:22
  Speaker 16: and it's a touchdown. So, you know, I think the
• 48:25
  Speaker 16: running game's coming on at the right time. And terrible,
• 48:28
  Speaker 16: terrible injury for Zach Scharboneay, but again, I think the
• 48:32
  Speaker 16: Seahawks in a way have sort of planned and prepared for,
• 48:37
  Speaker 16: you know, this kind of a situation.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: And he's been waiting for four years to be able
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: to carry the load for this team. Here's your opportunity.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see you tap your helmet one time.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I mean you're getting every carry as far as I'm concerned.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck with us right here on Chucking Buck in
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  Speaker 1: the morning. So I do want to ask you something
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: in the other AFC game, how hard is it going
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: to be for Jared Stidham to step into that situation
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: on Sunday and beat the Patriots one win away from
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.
• 49:03
  Speaker 16: I think everyone's counting Jared Sidham out, but I don't
• 49:06
  Speaker 16: think they should. You know, my first three years in
• 49:07
  Speaker 16: the NFL as a backup to Brett Farv, my last
• 49:10
  Speaker 16: three years in the NFL as a backup to Andrew Luck,
• 49:12
  Speaker 16: and I always felt, always felt like I was ready
• 49:15
  Speaker 16: to go, liked had they called on me, I was
• 49:17
  Speaker 16: ready to go. And I think that's the case for
• 49:19
  Speaker 16: most most backups. Now, some guys are asleep at the wheel,
• 49:23
  Speaker 16: or they don't have the talent or like whatever. But
• 49:25
  Speaker 16: Jared Stidham, if you remember, was drafted by the New
• 49:28
  Speaker 16: England Patriots to be the heir apparent to Tom Brady.
• 49:31
  Speaker 15: They believed in him.
• 49:32
  Speaker 16: Even this offseason they kicked the tires on Stidham and
• 49:36
  Speaker 16: considered bringing him back to New England to back up
• 49:38
  Speaker 16: Drake May like Josh McDaniels, Mike Vrabel, they really like
• 49:42
  Speaker 16: him as a player. I thought he was a really
• 49:43
  Speaker 16: good player in college at Baylor and Auburn. He didn't
• 49:47
  Speaker 16: he didn't like the world on fire in college. But
• 49:50
  Speaker 16: at the same time, I think that the you know,
• 49:53
  Speaker 16: he was probably a better athlete than they used him in.
• 49:56
  Speaker 16: So I think, you know, you're gonna see it's a
• 49:57
  Speaker 16: good fit with Sean Payton in that offense. So not
• 50:00
  Speaker 16: a game I would gamble on, but a game I
• 50:03
  Speaker 16: do think the Patriots come out on top. But I
• 50:05
  Speaker 16: don't think it's gonna be because the quarterback, because I
• 50:08
  Speaker 16: do think he'll be ready.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: All right, I gotta ask you. We do it on
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: zoom with Matt so you can't see this. It's a visual,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: But he's got this entire like a war chest of
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: you know, footballs and helmets and everything. What is your
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: most prized possession on your shelf behind you?
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  Speaker 9: Man?
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  Speaker 16: You know that's I don't know, that's a good question.
• 50:29
  Speaker 16: I would say all the stuff on the bottom, or
• 50:31
  Speaker 16: like recently from my kids, Like, you know, my girls
• 50:33
  Speaker 16: played lacrosse in college. My middle daughter's still playing, she's
• 50:37
  Speaker 16: at Stanford, but a lot of like my older daughter,
• 50:39
  Speaker 16: four national championships in four years, one two lost to
• 50:43
  Speaker 16: so like, you know, I was just quick story about that.
• 50:46
  Speaker 16: My girls were teammates. They lost the national championship there,
• 50:50
  Speaker 16: you know, freshman sophomore year or whatever, and they were
• 50:53
  Speaker 16: crying and I'm like, oh, girls, it's okay, I'm proud
• 50:56
  Speaker 16: of you, great year whatever.
• 50:57
  Speaker 15: And they're like, you have no idea what it's like
• 50:59
  Speaker 15: to be so close dad and not win at all.
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  Speaker 16: I'm really really, I know you're young, but really, so
• 51:09
  Speaker 16: you know, I'm glad that there's some first place trophies
• 51:11
  Speaker 16: in here too, to go love with my my second
• 51:14
  Speaker 16: place NFC championship trophy.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: That sounds like we're going to have a family viewing tonight.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: We're gonna make popcorn, honey, and girls, you're not gonna
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: go out tonight. You're going to stay in and you're
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: going to watch Seahawk Staler super Bowl.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah that's punishment for me too.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's true, that's true.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Too soon, Too soon, all right, just to close it
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: out for this week, how are you feeling Seahawks Rams
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: on Sunday?
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: What kind of game you expect them to see? What
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: kind of a result you're expect them to see.
• 51:45
  Speaker 15: Well, I'm coming to the game. This is not a
• 51:47
  Speaker 15: game I would ever want to miss. Any championship game.
• 51:49
  Speaker 15: These don't come around often.
• 51:50
  Speaker 16: This is gonna be incredible, and in the NFC and
• 51:54
  Speaker 16: NCY championship games I feel like are the best, even
• 51:56
  Speaker 16: better than a super Bowl because it's in front of
• 51:58
  Speaker 16: your home crowd. Super Bowl like neutral fan bases sort of,
• 52:02
  Speaker 16: and it's just not the same. So I'm really excited
• 52:04
  Speaker 16: about this game. I think it's a very good matchup,
• 52:07
  Speaker 16: best offense of coach and sort of like the MVP
• 52:10
  Speaker 16: of the league against the best defense in the league.
• 52:12
  Speaker 15: To me, I think special.
• 52:13
  Speaker 16: Teams are going to be the factor in this game,
• 52:16
  Speaker 16: and something that's just been an amazing thing for the
• 52:18
  Speaker 16: Seahawks this year. The Rams, on the other side, have
• 52:20
  Speaker 16: already fired their special teams coach midway through the season.
• 52:24
  Speaker 16: There's some weaknesses there that I see, So I'm really
• 52:27
  Speaker 16: fired up. I think this will be again I've said,
• 52:29
  Speaker 16: like I know the super Bowl is in fury the
• 52:31
  Speaker 16: two best teams in the NFL. That's not the case
• 52:34
  Speaker 16: this year. This is the real super Bowl. This is
• 52:36
  Speaker 16: these are the two best teams in football. No offense
• 52:39
  Speaker 16: to the AFC people, but it's one of these two teams.
• 52:43
  Speaker 16: And you just got to play this game first, that's
• 52:45
  Speaker 16: all it is. So I'm excited for it, and like
• 52:47
  Speaker 16: I said, I think it's going to come down to
• 52:49
  Speaker 16: the wire.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Great, great, great, excellent stuff. Thank you, sir. We appreciate it,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: and have fun Sunday. We'll do all right there. He
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: is number eight at eight.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: The quarterback Matt Hasselbeck joining us right here on Chuck
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: and Buck in the Morning's great stuff from him.
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  Speaker 2: As always.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure because we do the zoom call and
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, my camera I can't get it to
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: point down. So every time I'm on the zoom, all
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: you really see is my head. Everybody else is perfectly framed,
• 53:17
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• 53:19
  Speaker 1: if you ask Hasslebeck right now, how tall do you think.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: He is, he'd say four foot six, Oh for sure. Yeah,
• 53:23
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• 53:36
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• 53:38
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  Speaker 1: A fifth rounder who got who John Donovan couldn't figure
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean he's unbelievable. I mean his hands, anything
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  Speaker 2: touches his hands, he catches, and then it's what he
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  Speaker 2: before that have some of the same skill sets and
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  Speaker 2: that you get I get worried as a as a
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  Speaker 2: fan or a view or just because you're like, how
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  Speaker 2: are you not getting rolled up? On and yet he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't care. He doesn't He plays kind of with reckless
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  Speaker 2: abandon about going across the middle. He's not wanting to
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  Speaker 2: go down. Some people should. Tyler lockets a priming XPE.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: You just go down. You're going to get hurt if
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: you don't. He doesn't go down. It takes a lot
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: to bring him to the ground. And then the fact
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  Speaker 2: that that Sean McVay has a weapon like that to
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: kind of unleash on people, I mean, they just you
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: don't see very many people that are going to put
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  Speaker 2: up twelve catch, two hundred and twenty five yard game
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: two touchdowns against anybody, let alone the Seahawks defense at
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: one point in time. So I mean, there's that is
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  Speaker 2: a weapon. I was saying last week, you got to
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: figure out a way or the last two weeks, you
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: got to figure out a way to stop Christian McCaffrey.
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  Speaker 2: That's that kind of X factor, that wild card that
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  Speaker 2: the Niners have. Well they found a way to do that.
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  Speaker 2: You got to figure out a way to shut him down.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Now that's not the only weapon they have. They've kyn
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  Speaker 2: Williams who can run and Matthew Stafford who can deliver it.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: To some other guy. But I don't think you win
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  Speaker 2: if you let him catch twelve balls for two twenty five. Again, No,
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  Speaker 2: I think you got real lucky. Yeah, I think. I
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  Speaker 2: think the best hands I've ever seen Chris Carter, Like
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  Speaker 1: So soft and he just absorbed the football and never
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. He has the strongest hands.
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  Speaker 1: And then all those other attributes that you spoke of,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me of me a lot. When I
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  Speaker 2: strong hands, like rocks, like rocks, just clanking.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that's good.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's not where you're going.
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  Speaker 3: You're supposed to have soft hands. Oh but my mind
• 1:01:15
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  Speaker 2: Oh I didn't have this rock like is not.
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  Speaker 1: Those people are called stone hands. Oh that's good to
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  Speaker 2: Was way better than having a villa.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So suck it, clooney, what you got on?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nine o'clock hour here on this Wednesday, Softy by
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  Speaker 1: the gonna have on Kurt Warner tomorrow with Mike Holmgren.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see if Kurt finally gives a coach a
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: piece of his mind. Oh wow, didn't give me a chance.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: I'll let him know.
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  Speaker 1: in a sentence, don't give me any credit at all
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty three NFL draft, And I will
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: explain because that was the CJ.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Stroud draft, and CJ. Stroud looks lost right now.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: So let's go back to twenty twenty three draftmans where
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: I was saying, man, when are you going to have
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: this kind of draft capital to move up and get
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: the quarterback of your choice. You need a franchise quarterback.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: And the Seahawks had that time, had the fifth and
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the twentieth pick in the draft, and Bryce Young and
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: c J. Stroud were the top two quarterbacks in that draft.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: If you remember, I even said it the next year.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: I gave us said it the next year, even after
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: the draft was over, and we landed two really good players,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: which if you've forgotten, I'll get to in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: But we and I'm still saying, say that's why you know,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: when you got a chance, you get.
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  Speaker 2: That quarterback, that franchise quarterback. Now look at him, he
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: looks like a superstar.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: And now here we are three seasons later. He looks
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: scared to death. There's talk that maybe won't be retained
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: in Houston after this season, and the Sea by not
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: listening to me during draft miss not that they ever
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: would have. They get to keep Devin Witherspoon and JSN.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: Few exactly right. Yeah, that's that's a few moments. I mean,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: think about what he did with that that Think about
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: that entire draft. Will Anderson went third. Look what he's
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: turned into for Houston.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Brought.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: BJN Robinson and Jamier Gibbs were in that draft. Jalen
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Carter was in that draft. The Bears, who traded out
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: of the number one spot and got Caleb Williams for it.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: The next year got Darnell Wright, who's a Pro bowler
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: this year, probably All Pro this year.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Right tackle.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: With the tenth pick, Christian Gonzalez, who might be the
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: best cornerback in the National Football League right now. Hemmer Certan,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: He's he was taken in ef fort. Jack Campbell, who's
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: made like three Pro Bowls with the Detroit Lions in
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: four year three years, was in that draft. I mean,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: what a loaded draft, and yet our penchant for man
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: you got to get that franchise quarterback.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: I was guilty of it.
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  Speaker 1: And it turns out that the perfect play was made
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: by John Schneider that day. And yet the ebbs and
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: flows of the quarterback and not giving him up up
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: on them too soon ties right into our guy. I mean,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has had an up and down career. Obviously,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young was surely worse than c. J. Stroud for
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: the first two years of his career, and now kind
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: of feels like Bryce Young was the better is the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: better quarterback out of the two, And the same thing
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: applies to our quarterback with Sam Darnold. I mean, if
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: there's a position that maybe you shouldn't ride the ebbs
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: and flows, maybe you should just play it out and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: see what experience and the right system and the right
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: head coach and the right surrounding talent can do for
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: a young man. We may not have more of a
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: shining example than what we have right now in Sam Donald.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: And yet because of those struggles early in his career,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: they we just can't get away from this narrative that
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks don't have a good enough quarterback to win
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I mean, we've been watching him every
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: game this year. I think that's nuts. I don't think
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: there's any doubt that he can win the championship this year,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: and even if he throws a couple of interceptions here
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: over the coach to the next couple of weeks, but
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: they riding that EBB and flow. I think that a
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: lot of national people just can't get over they buried
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald early in his career and just can't accept
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: the fact because they don't watch him play every day,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: and you know, they sit in New York and want
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: to judge. They can't accept the fact that that guy
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: that they married and crucified actually is somebody that can
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: lead an NFL team to a Super Bowl victory like
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: we have in Sam Donald, and he's still in his
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: twenty and still has a lot more.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: That he can do well. I think there's a lot
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: of people that, especially people that do our jobs right
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: where we're paid to give opinions, that have a really
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: hard time doing what you just did, which is admitting that, Wow,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: I'm glad they didn't listen to me on that one. Yeah,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: admitting that you're wrong. It's it's not fun all the
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: time to do it. And yet it's human, especially when
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: you get paid for twenty hours a week. We come
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: on here and kind of throw it out there, like
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: here's what I think, not what I know. Now if
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: you say, oh, I know this for a fact, like
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: who are the guys that we got that JSN.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Jas Hennen Devolun? You can you even imagine the best
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: team without those two guys?
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  Speaker 5: H h.
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  Speaker 2: It's like we'll be waking up from a nightmare right there, right, Yeah, terrible.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: And yet it's like if you say I know that
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: you made a mistake by getting JSN, and then now
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: you're sitting here, well then you don't have a choice
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: but to kind of eat that one, right, like you
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: have to back up off of it. There's other times
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: where as Sam Darnold, for example, what he was when
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: he first came out at twenty years old to a
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: bad team and it didn't work, and then what he's
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: been for the last two years. It's apparently not enough
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: for people to admit, all right, maybe I was premature
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: on throwing dirt on this guy when he was twenty
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: years old. And I guess they said times have a
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: hard time remembering what they were like at twenty years old,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: because I'm pretty sure most of the people talking trash
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: about Sam Darnold, you weren't very good at anything at twenty,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: let alone running an NFL team and an NFL offense.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: And so I think that there's hard a lot of
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: times people have a hard time recognizing CJ.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: Stroud.
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  Speaker 2: On the other hand, comes out basically and what was
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: the second year, all of a sudden has that great year.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: Then that gives you extra like length in the rope,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: if you will, for leniency, and they're like, oh man,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: we remember what he was like.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: And yet it.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Also sets a bar so high that anything less than that.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: I mean CJ. Stroud's went to the playoffs every single year.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: He looked lost for sure the last couple of games.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it looks like he's got the yips, scared
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: to not throw it with conviction, like Matt Hasselbeck says,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: you have to throw the ball with conviction. If Sam
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Donald does, yeh, Sam Donald does, regardless of what he
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: did the play before. And so to me, it's if
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: you recognize how good CJ. Stroud could be, you don't
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: throw him under the bus when he kind of pukes
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: on himself in the in the playoffs and say I'm
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: just not going to do it. The beautiful thing is
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: you don't necessarily have to convert. You don't have to
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: You don't have to sign him to a sixty million
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: dollar contract tomorrow or you lose him. You kind of
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: have a little bit of time to play with the
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald situation. Because he was a veteran, because he
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: had played as well as he did with Minnesota, he
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: would thrust himself into a position where teams that needed
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: a quarterback had to decide and are we going to
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: pay him big time money? Well, there's also another way
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: of looking at him. Wait a second, can we get
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: a guy that just led them to almost the number
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: one seed in the NFC, that won fourteen games? Can
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: we get him for what is a deal compared to
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: some of what the quarterbacks are making. I mean, you
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: have thirty million, you get to spend. The cap space
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: that the Seahawks have is in large part because of
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: how little they're paying Sam Donald. And yet Sam Donald
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: has went out there and played capable of going, you know,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: throw for throw with anybody in the league. I mean,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: I think Matthew Stafford's had a better year as a pastor.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Now he's the MVP, but his team didn't win more games,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: he didn't win the division, he didn't get a number
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: one by or the number one seed and a bye
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: in the first round. So to me, it's I think
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: it's just a matter of some people have our time
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: letting go of their opinion because they want to be
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: right more than they want to recognize what is true.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people are hung up
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: on that when it comes to Sam Donald unfortunately.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: Well and especially with Sam Donald, I mean I mentioned
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: it earlier. It's when he had those four interceptions in LA.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: How many times did you hear people go, oh, he's
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: seeing ghosts. He's seeing ghosts, because that's the thing they
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: remember from twenty nineteen in his second year in the
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: NFL when he had that problem. That's not the same thing.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: He was not seeing ghosts. He was actually not seeing
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: things that were there, not seeing things that weren't there.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: And that's a common expression used by you. Just don't
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: use it in the media. Try to use in the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: media because they can haunt ghosts can haunt you.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: They can't. Actually that's what they're known for.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: But it's like it's people I think that want to
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: sound like they know what they're talking about football wise, like, oh,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: you know, there you go, that's that thing. And so
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: he keeps coming up, it keeps coming up. But that's
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: not the same situation. He's not the same quarterback. He's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: not dealing with the same things. And it just seems
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: like you get these little viral things that people either
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: say or think or that happen, and that's the easiest
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: thing to grab onto. So you just you know, it
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: just it's like word vomit say the first thing that
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: comes to mind, and that's what people do.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I was sure that Sam Darnold was toast. I
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: thought it was cooked. I mean, it took a little while.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: It took a while. I get why a Jets fan
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to hear his name mentioned, especially now. I
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: get that he wasn't good there, but there's also this
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: aspect of being able to say, oh wait, wait, wait, wait,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: that kid was.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: Twenty years old coming out of college. Yep, he took
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: over a bat.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: He took over his quarterback for a bad team and
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: a bad organization that can't make.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: A right decision. So it didn't work. I mean, it
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: wasn't there for it to work.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: And then he had to go back down to basics,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: and like Andy Dufrayn climbing through miles and miles of
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Pooh to get his freedom out of Shawshank, you know,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: he climbed his way out of New York and being
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: labeled a bust and then he had to spend time
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: as Carolina like.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Ride share program.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with similar story with Baker Mayfield, who was the
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: number one pick in his draft and looked like he
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: was going to be a success and then he crashed
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: out and then had to rebuild his So they were
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: in that together. Then he goes to San Francisco and
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: he's backing up mister irrelevant for goodness sake and says,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: that's the most learning that I did in my entire career. Yeah,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: to even have that humil to say, I was the
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: third overall pick and I'm backing up the last pick
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: in the draft who's younger than me by a couple years,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: and I could learn a lot from this guy. I
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: mean he's still to this day every time you ask
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: him about it, how much Brock Perdy helped him become
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: a better quarterback. And then he gets to Minnesota where
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: he was supposed to back up for JJ McCarthy. So
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: then he had to climb up that and then he
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: had some success and people still doubt him, and I understand.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: But then now we've put together two years twenty eight
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: wins in the regular season. I mean, I don't know
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: what more people need to see nationally in order to
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: not look at Sam Darnold as a liability. But that's
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: what the entire twenty four hours was spent by people
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: that clearly haven't been watching him play that consistently. That's
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: what they spent discussing. I mean, there was even one
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: guy I respect very much who said this, Sam's got
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: to do more in this game. What then, what like
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty four passing yards in a game
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: you won by thirty five.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course held on to the ball.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Of course he'll probably have to do more.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's this feeling that like, that's not going
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: to be good enough. What do you mean playing perfectly
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: under game circumstances and the situation and the environment that
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: he I mean.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: That's playing your part in the game plan.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: It's exactly what how you want him to play with
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: an oblique injury is the way try to limit his
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: passes and if the running games work and let it cook.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's exactly what you want out of him.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: He didn't turn the ball over, never put it in
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: harm's way if I can recall twelve or seventeen completions,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: and took his foot off the gas in the second half.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: He was out by the end of his last pass
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: was with thirteen minutes left in the third quarter. Yeah,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: he's probably gonna have to do more than that against
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams because we're.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Probably not going to be up by thirty five in
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: the third quarter.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ah do we want to be I'm good
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: with it. Looa hanging fruit and it's just like, come on,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: come up with something.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I get it.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: You criticize Sam Darnold, we all did. It looked like
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: he was a bust. But he's still in his twenties.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: He's resurrected his career. He's not only not a liability,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: he has a strength of the best team in the
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: National Football League right now.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably one of my biggest frustrations about
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: our job, the people that do what we do is
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: the I can't wait to say somebody sucks. It's like, don't, don't,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: don't you don't have to. I give somebody some time.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: Everybody that sucks at something, if it's put out in
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: in the on a platform that people are going to watch,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: it's gonna come out that they aren't very good at it,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: they're not good enough to be a franchise quarterback. And
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: then it's every single year you're fighting for your job
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: to just have a job, to be capable of being
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: a backup quarterback, because even that's not something to scoff at.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: You don't suck. You if you're number two, which means
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: you're top thirty four in the world being quarterback, or
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: presumably maybe there's somebody that didn't get a chance and
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: they're sitting at home or you know, working at Walmart
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: or something. But I mean, for the most part, to
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: be number one or two on any NFL team, you
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: don't suck. But I think people can't wait to say
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: it like they they expect that it's you. They walk
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: on water, They're going to show up and there's automatically
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: going to be amazing. No, that's not the case. Yesterday,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: Hugh was talking about how big of a difference it
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: is when he would sit there as a journeyman quarterback,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: majority of his career and see the same exact offense,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: but how differently it was installed. Talking about you know,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Nord Turner like, no, your shoulders have to be here,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: and he's talking about like a five degree difference of
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: how somebody has to run a route whereas somebody else
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  Speaker 2: is installing that same thing and they're not going down
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  Speaker 2: to the tiny little details. Well, if there's one thing
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  Speaker 2: that we can say, probably majority of the time, the
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  Speaker 2: Jets don't have the better, the best people installing stuff,
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  Speaker 2: right do we Because we've just seen quarterback after quarterback
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  Speaker 2: going there and then they come out. I don't take no,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I have to backpedal from that one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And yet you know he was basically a victim of
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  Speaker 2: the circumstance and then a victim of his own incapabilities
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  Speaker 2: at twenty years old.
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  Speaker 1: Immaturity and I'm not talking about mental or emotional matic
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  Speaker 1: didn't know to.
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  Speaker 2: Do it at that level period, and so he didn't.
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  Speaker 2: His time ran out, they moved on New York. Wasn't
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: happy with it, and he had to climb his way
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: back west, certainly by eating some humble pie. Not that
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: I think he was super arrogant but he had to go. Well,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm going to stick around this game and ever
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: rebound and become a starter in this league to where
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: I don't go down in history as a bust, I'm
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: going to have to recognize all the things that I
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: don't do well and improve upon him. And that might
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: mean sitting behind mister irrelevant or losing a one on
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: one battle for the quarterback position against another bust in
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield down to Carolina. Whatever it is. He had
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: to eat that, wear it, and then keep his nose
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  Speaker 2: to the grindstone and keep getting better. He obviously is better.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: If you just fight, are gonna go Nope, still turnover machine?
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  Speaker 2: Then you just have him been paying attention jets and
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: let down my jegy sucks forever. Then okay, well sorry,
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  Speaker 2: you can be mad about it. Fact is, yeah, you
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: didn't get this version of Sam Darnold. If you had,
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  Speaker 2: he wouldn't have went through the path that he had
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: to go to to get here.
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  Speaker 1: So who knows how that would have worked well even
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: full I mean, just to bring a full circle. You're right, Well,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: you're the line that you were on the like I mean,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: I'm paid to have a sports opinion and I'm gonna
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: have a strong one and I'm gonna try to support
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: that opinion. And I thought at the time, Seahawks have
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: never had this kind of draft capital. They don't have
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: anything that resembles a quarterback of the future. Do you
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: waste that draft capital to get up or not waste it?
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: But do you use that draft capital to get up
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: and get that franchise quarter Even though they didn't look
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: like there was a sure fire Andrew Locke Trevor Lawrence
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: kind of quarterback at number one, you had your opportunity
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: to get up and get the quarterback that you liked
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  Speaker 1: the most in that particular draft.
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  Speaker 2: And by god, it's a good thing you didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it felt to me like the right thing
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  Speaker 1: at the time, but it's a good thing you didn't
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: because I don't care what CJ. Stroud does become going forward.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: I'd rather have Spoon and I'd rather have Js on
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: my football team and then figure out the quarterback as
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: you go.
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  Speaker 5: But even me.
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  Speaker 2: Saying that, I'm not going to bury CJ.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Stroud either, because Baker Mayfield was up and then down
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: and then got back up again, and maybe it feels
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: like he's going back down again, and so I don't
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: want to bury him either, and I don't want the
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: Texans to have to bear him. It seems to me
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: this quarterback position's pretty difficult to play, and if you
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: don't always maintain confidence, boy, you can sink like a
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: rock pretty quickly. Or if you don't have the right
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: parts around you, you you can sink pretty quickly. Uh
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  Speaker 1: So I'll leave hope alive that c J. Stroud does
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  Speaker 1: rebound from this. That said, I don't think that I
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  Speaker 1: would I will ever regret John taking JS in and
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon over him. But just to have that ability
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  Speaker 1: to like, hey, this is what I thought, it's not
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: I was wrong and now this is what's right. Just
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: add that ability doesn't seem like that's far fetched, and
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: I think the entire nation suffering it from it from
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  Speaker 1: a from a compound of ignorance that they're working from.
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  Speaker 2: Well, recognizing that you're not perfect and being able to
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  Speaker 2: admit that didn't used to be a superpower, but it
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  Speaker 2: is now.
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  Speaker 1: Al Kiniski's Next Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM.
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  Speaker 2: I want to start a problem. I know that Bucky's
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: I know that Bucky really likes Rick Riz. Yeah, uh huh,
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  Speaker 2: I do, we all do?
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  Speaker 15: I do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just on MLB network and he picked
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  Speaker 1: Edgar over you for Mariners all time.
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  Speaker 2: DH, that's just rude. Sorry for guy has been around
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  Speaker 2: the game to know so little you would think. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's been around the Mariners forever.
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  Speaker 3: Got to just try put in he's old.
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  Speaker 2: He just forgot how great I am.
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  Speaker 3: That must be it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I took his job. Yeah, I mean he
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  Speaker 2: was already.
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  Speaker 4: He did just say that Rick Riz was getting old.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm pretty sure next time he'll pick Edgar even faster.
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  Speaker 1: I just remember anyway, Edgar knows it's been a rough
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: morning for you. Found out that Clooney's more charming than you,
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  Speaker 1: and now Edgar hands is not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Rough, so al KINISKI joins us out tread carefully. It's
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: been a rough morning for Bucky so far.
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  Speaker 12: Well, Bucky, I would pick you over Edgar as.
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  Speaker 5: I love you.
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  Speaker 12: That's that's the good news. Is The bad news is
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  Speaker 12: I don't get a vote.
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  Speaker 1: Oh somehow I'm a little offended by Yeah, that's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit offensive to me. I don't know, no offense,
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  Speaker 1: no offense to you, but a good to chat with you, al,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: even though man, I don't I don't know what to
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  Speaker 1: make of this season. Great start, terrible stretch, You're ready
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: to throw in the towel, then all of a sudden,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere, great stretch, get right back within a point,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: first place again, and then all of a sudden can't
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: win a game.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: What is happening with our Seattle Kraken right now?
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  Speaker 12: I'll tell you the tightness of this specific division and
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 12: really the Western Conference in general. But the tightness of
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  Speaker 12: this division is the reason why the Kracking dropped out
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  Speaker 12: of a playoff spot during that bat run prior to Christmas,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 12: and then got back into third spot in the in
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  Speaker 12: the conference after Christmas, and now they are one point
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 12: out of a wild card spot once again. So we
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 12: you've got six or eight teams that are all within
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 12: a few points of each other. If you don't keep winning,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 12: you can go, you can go much higher in the
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 12: standings very quickly, or much lower as we've seen.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what is it that they need? What's the difference
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: that you see when they're playing well and getting the
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: outcomes that you want? Because Chuck and I were just
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: talking during the break about it's the process, and it's
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: the approach to how you go about things, and then
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: the outcomes will fall in your favor when you're doing
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: more stuff correctly than incorrectly. So when they're going through
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: these skids, what's the downfall? Or when they're playing hot,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: what is the thing that they're doing better?
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  Speaker 12: So I would say, Bucky, it's three things, and one
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 12: of the three is a little sense of So I'll
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 12: save that one for last. I want to be very
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 12: careful about how I say it. The first thing is
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 12: is that this franchise has never gone three consecutive games
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 12: being scored on shorthanded, and that happened over this last stretch.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 12: And when you get scored on shorthanded, I'm not sure
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 12: what the equivalent is in baseball. Maybe a little up
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 12: where the catcher catches it for the third strike, I
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 12: don't know. But it's deflating. It's deflating the team on
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 12: the bench, it's deflating to the line on the ice
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  Speaker 12: to get scored on, and it takes a long time
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 12: to build that back. And that's happened three times over
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 12: the last three games. That's number one. Number two is
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 12: bad starts, and bad starts are tough to solve. As
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 12: a coach, you know how to solve them. You've got
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 12: to go out and play better in the first period.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 12: But the players have to do it. The players have
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 12: to figure it out. This team's have bad starts in
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 12: at least three of the last five games, so bad
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 12: starts three short handed goals in a row. The third
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 12: one is goaltending. And when I say goaltending, I mean
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 12: this goaltending duo of Grubauer and Decor is fantastic. They've
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 12: been in the in the mid to load nine hundred
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  Speaker 12: save percentages most of the season. Well over the last
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 12: five games, it's dropped off a little bit. In fact,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 12: over the last ten I believe there's been six where
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 12: it's been below nine hundred. So when this goaltending duo,
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  Speaker 12: which again has been playing fantastic all season, drops it
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 12: puts the team in a position where it's tougher for
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 12: them to win games because now they have to go
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 12: score four or five or six to win a game
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 12: rather than two, three or four. So the goals to
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 12: day has been great, but if they don't play elite,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 12: this team has a difficult time winning.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Al Kaniski is with us as he joins us every
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Wednesday at this time talks from Crack and Hockey.
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  Speaker 2: They need a win tonight against the New York Islanders.
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  Speaker 2: More on that in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: I know, you hockey analysts love to do your lines,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: you know, make your lines out. I remember being a
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: kid growing up in Saint Louis, and of course we
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: had Brett, Brett Hull and Adam Oates. But I mean
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  Speaker 1: they were never not on the same line together. I
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: mean Hull and Oates. I mean that was the line.
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  Speaker 1: They were never not on the same line. They were
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: a dominant group and maybe you rotate the other guy out,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: but usually it was just, you know, you had your
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: one line, two line, three lines, and unless you went
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: into a major swump, you didn't change up any thing.
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  Speaker 1: Seems like that coach Lambert and all Cracking coaches since
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: they took over are constantly trying to figure out that formula.
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  Speaker 1: So I would ask you, are they are they Are
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: they tinkering too much or not enough with their line
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: combinations to try to find the right groups.
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  Speaker 12: Well, you got to remember a lot of the tinkering
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 12: as a result of this team finally, finally, for the
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 12: first time all season, being healthy, and so now you
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 12: have all the chess pieces in play and you can
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 12: start to figure out who are those right pair Halootes
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 12: in your example, who are those right two guys that
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 12: should stay together for the rest of the season, and
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 12: then if you have to change somebody out, it's that
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  Speaker 12: third one. I'm not sure we know what that is
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  Speaker 12: right right now. Yes, we've had some of these guys,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 12: a lot of them in at different times and out
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 12: at different times, but we have not had the entire
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 12: lineup healthy yet this year. And so for the last
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 12: handful of games, we're finally there, and I think coach
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 12: Lane Lambert is trying to figure out who those pairs are,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 12: who those Hallo and Oats pairs are, and who who
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 12: should be cycled out if they do need to cycle
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 12: a third one out. But it takes time. You know,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 12: you have preseason for that. You you you've got the
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 12: first dozen games for that, and this team hasn't had
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 12: that yet. So unfortunately, that's what's going on with the
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 12: tinkering of the lines.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they got a big one against the Islanders. What
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: do they got to do to pull out a w
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: and stop the skid?
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  Speaker 12: Well, I'll tell you Bucky. It's the same thing as
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 12: what I just said. They've got to have a great start.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 12: They've got to at least capitalize on their power play opportunities,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 12: you know, at a twenty five thirty percent level, and
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 12: not give up shorthanded goals. And then I go back
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 12: to goaltending. Whoever's in nets got to keep the goals
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 12: against to three or less. If you do that, you
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 12: almost dial up a recipe for success. There aren't too
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 12: many times where this team has scored three or more
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 12: and lost the game. So you know, the guys have
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 12: to put the puck in the net at the offensive
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 12: end of the ice. The goaltenders have to do their
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 12: job keep it to three or less, and that's the
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 12: recipe for a win.
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  Speaker 5: Tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Islanders are having a good year.
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  Speaker 12: Why well, Matthew Shaffer is a big part of that.
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  Speaker 12: You know, he's top draft pick this year, started in
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 12: the NHL with the Islanders. He's at Quinn Hughes level defenseman.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 12: When you've got a guy like that that plays, you know,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 12: twenty five almost thirty minutes of a hockey game and
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 12: can have that kind of an impact, he's almost impacting
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 12: every shift on the ice. So that's been a big
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 12: reason for their success. But they've also got some depth
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 12: in their roster with veterans as well, so they'll be
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 12: they'll be a tough team tonight.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 9: Man.
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  Speaker 1: How great is the young talent right now in the NHL.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: It seems like there's just this new another teenager Schaeffer
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: at eighteen and Celebrini and already's a superstar in San Jose.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: And you know, Caton's starting to make his move here
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: with the crack And I mean, is this normal? Are
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: we seeing just robust a couple of seasons of eighteen
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: to twenty year olds who might be you know, household
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: names here in the next ten years.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's pretty special. I mean it's great
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  Speaker 12: for the game. First of all. Obviously it's great for
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 12: the teams that are on but when you've got kids
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 12: that are coming out of the draft and and playing
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 12: with their their drafted teams right away or at least
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 12: you know, three quarters of the games of that season
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 12: and not just playing for you know, a development role,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 12: but actually impacting. And you know, it took a while
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 12: for Birthday Catton to get going, but he's definitely cracked
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 12: that that goalscoring Egg and Everett and I talk about
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 12: it every game. He seems to get better and better
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 12: every game, whether it's his playmaking ability, whether it's when
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 12: he's taking face offs, whether it's his defensive side of
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 12: the game as well. He's learning at a rapid pace
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 12: and it's been exciting.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: To see Hal Kaniski a segment brought to you every
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: week by Queen Anne beer Hall. I have a feeling
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: he's coming from the beer hall. That's why I said
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: that same thing about you and Edgar at the beginning
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: of the interview. I think maybe he had a few
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: thinkl maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, a few sheets to the win.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very good take he had. Yeah, wait till
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: at least ten.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, So six point thirty tonight dropping the puck
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: the Everett and Al Show.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: We will be tuned in. Thank you, sir, We appreciate
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: you very much.
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  Speaker 12: All Right, boys, have a good rest of your day.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Al Koniski color analyst for your Seattle kragn
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• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: team needs a win, and I get they're tired. Man,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: they're playing a lot of hockey, but everybody in the
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: NHL is playing a lot of hockey in a really
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: short period of time because of the break they're taking
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: for the Olympics that are coming up, and so you
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: can't use it as an excuse. But certainly they do
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: not look like the same team their last eight games
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: as they did the previous eight games. They got to
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: get it back on track before they take that break.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, we'll close out the show with one
• 1:32:57
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