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- 2:05Speaker 2: Sad jumping on the bus yet again on a Monday morning,
- 2:09Speaker 2: do a little NFL recap. I know you had probably
- 2:12Speaker 2: one of the spiciest games of the week. Do we
- 2:14Speaker 2: want to start there?
- 2:15Speaker 1: We can start there. I do know. I don't want
- 2:17Speaker 1: it to go unnoticed that I messaged Greg over the
- 2:21Speaker 1: weekend like I'm sitting there and as I'm watching games
- 2:24Speaker 1: and trying to process analytical angles or you know, situational football.
- 2:29Speaker 1: I shot Greg a text during the Big Ten Championship. Yeah,
- 2:32Speaker 1: when it was Ohio State trying to kick a kick
- 2:34Speaker 1: in the field goal? What was it the twenty five
- 2:36Speaker 1: yard or twenty eight yarder that they shanked to tie it,
- 2:40Speaker 1: And it was like late in the fourth or later
- 2:41Speaker 1: in the fourth, and I just shot Greg attext like, Hey,
- 2:44Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here watching that field goal. I'm thinking
- 2:46Speaker 1: of my head, Yeah, you tie the game, but is
- 2:49Speaker 1: this one of those situations where you don't tie the game,
- 2:50Speaker 1: you try to go for it, because again, all you're
- 2:53Speaker 1: doing is giving them three points. They have x amount
- 2:56Speaker 1: of time to work with and all it needs a
- 2:57Speaker 1: field goal to win the how much time was left
- 2:59Speaker 1: on the clock, It was like two minutes, yeah, two
- 3:02Speaker 1: minutes and change left. Two minutes and change left, So
- 3:05Speaker 1: plenty of time. Because like, yeah, at the end of
- 3:07Speaker 1: the day, no matter what, Indiana is just gonna need
- 3:09Speaker 1: a field goal to win the game. So if you
- 3:11Speaker 1: tie it, they need a field goal. But if you
- 3:13Speaker 1: go and go for it on fourth down and eventually score,
- 3:16Speaker 1: you're you're challenging them. They're gonna have to get seven
- 3:18Speaker 1: on you. So I'm texting Greg, Hey's text back, yes
- 3:21Speaker 1: with exclamation points. I'm just letting them know, Hey, I'm
- 3:23Speaker 1: trying to learn now.
- 3:24Speaker 2: So so you're Greg, your answer to Will was, yes,
- 3:27Speaker 2: you take the three in that situation.
- 3:28Speaker 1: No, you go for it.
- 3:29Speaker 3: No, No, I think they should have went for it.
- 3:31Speaker 3: Now Again, it's easy to have that perspective when he misses.
- 3:34Speaker 2: The kids, no doubt, no doubt. Yeah, Monday's always tough
- 3:37Speaker 2: to be like, you should have done this, but we're just.
- 3:39Speaker 3: About so I always exactly, I always try to not
- 3:43Speaker 3: be the hindsight guy right and and always and make
- 3:47Speaker 3: a decision. Well, it's if Ryan Day knew the kid
- 3:50Speaker 3: was gonna shake it, of course he would have gone
- 3:52Speaker 3: for it, like, yeah, right, but I thought beforehand, you
- 3:56Speaker 3: got to go for it. Right on paper, you're probably
- 3:58Speaker 3: the better team. You're paying bazillions of dollars to the kids.
- 4:02Speaker 3: You're big, and you're physical, and you pride yourself on
- 4:04Speaker 3: all that. Like, you've got to be able to get
- 4:07Speaker 3: short yard situations inside the ten yard line. That's just
- 4:11Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly where the ball was, but it
- 4:13Speaker 3: was inside the ten. It might have been the eight
- 4:16Speaker 3: or nine. I can't remember exactly where the ball was. Yeah,
- 4:20Speaker 3: I watching it transpire. College kickers, I don't pretend to
- 4:25Speaker 3: know the math of college numbers like I do in
- 4:27Speaker 3: the NFL. I don't know what college field goal rates are.
- 4:30Speaker 3: I know there's a wild spread between good kickers and
- 4:33Speaker 3: bad kickers, much more so than the NFL, where for
- 4:36Speaker 3: the most part, everybody's kind of in the same bucket
- 4:38Speaker 3: to a degree. So, yeah, that was that was brutal.
- 4:42Speaker 3: And then remember in college, you miss a field goal
- 4:46Speaker 3: right there and they put the ball in the twenty.
- 4:48Speaker 3: So not only did you miss it, but you didn't
- 4:49Speaker 3: even have the luxury of Indiana having to snap the
- 4:52Speaker 3: ball from inside their own ten yard line because the
- 4:54Speaker 3: ball got moved to the twenty.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Yeah, he says they missed the kick and lost eleven
- 4:58Speaker 1: yards of field position. And then Greg on the next
- 5:01Speaker 1: drive he hits me and Oha State has to take
- 5:02Speaker 1: a time out after that long pass.
- 5:05Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 5:06Speaker 2: I've noticed a handful of people when there's when they
- 5:08Speaker 2: have like a pass over fifteen yards let's say it,
- 5:11Speaker 2: and they're all rushing to the ball and there's a
- 5:13Speaker 2: new set of downs. Everyone's trying to get hurry up
- 5:15Speaker 2: on the ball and you know, run another play. And
- 5:19Speaker 2: in my mind, it's like, dude, if you were in
- 5:20Speaker 2: a god to have the situation, your first down essentially
- 5:23Speaker 2: is the same as if you're running. It was a
- 5:26Speaker 2: regular part of the game, like you have first, second, third,
- 5:28Speaker 2: and then you're usually gonna punt or do whatever after that.
- 5:30Speaker 2: If you're in a god to have the situation, why
- 5:33Speaker 2: I would clock it. Like you get a massive pass
- 5:36Speaker 2: down the field and you're under a minute fifteen area
- 5:39Speaker 2: of inn a minute, It's like, dude, go clock it
- 5:41Speaker 2: so you can get everything kind of put together before
- 5:43Speaker 2: stuff starts running away from you.
- 5:45Speaker 3: Yeah, So offensively, when to use timeouts is always a
- 5:49Speaker 3: little bit tricky, right, so college rules again being a
- 5:53Speaker 3: little bit different because the clock will stop for it.
- 5:56Speaker 3: It feels like it stops at a very irregular time, right.
- 5:59Speaker 3: You get our first down with under two minutes, and
- 6:02Speaker 3: the clock will stop as they move the chains. I
- 6:05Speaker 3: don't know if anybody knows. Does it stop for five seconds?
- 6:08Speaker 3: I don't know exactly the timeframe. Maybe a college guy
- 6:11Speaker 3: could tell me if there's a strict like how long
- 6:13Speaker 3: they hold the clock before they reset it or is
- 6:15Speaker 3: it dependent on how long the gain is and how
- 6:17Speaker 3: long they have to move the ball in the chains.
- 6:19Speaker 5: I don't I don't know the answer to that. But tip.
- 6:24Speaker 3: The point Wills making that he tip we texted about.
- 6:28Speaker 3: I thought Ohio State needed to start using some of
- 6:30Speaker 3: their timeouts on defense.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Yeah, because Indea popped him on third down past. Yeah,
- 6:36Speaker 1: that's the one they threw and they didn't they didn't
- 6:38Speaker 1: take a time out. They allowed Indiana to get you know, move.
- 6:43Speaker 3: You just don't ever want to go down. You always
- 6:45Speaker 3: want to use your time general rule of thumb is
- 6:47Speaker 3: you want to use your timeouts on defense, and you
- 6:50Speaker 3: want to use all of your timeouts either on one
- 6:53Speaker 3: side or the other side of the two minute warning.
- 6:55Speaker 3: That's kind of like an NFL rule exactly how that
- 6:57Speaker 3: applies in college. I don't know all the ins and
- 6:59Speaker 3: outs because of the timing differences and whatnot, but that's like.
- 7:03Speaker 5: Typically in an NFL game, that's the rule of thumbs.
- 7:06Speaker 3: So if you've already used the timeout with five minutes
- 7:08Speaker 3: to go, say, and you've got two remaining, you typically
- 7:11Speaker 3: want to use those remaining timeouts if you can on defense,
- 7:15Speaker 3: and you want to use them also on the plus
- 7:17Speaker 3: side of the two minute What a lot of coaches like,
- 7:19Speaker 3: and it goes back into the psychology of all this,
- 7:21Speaker 3: is they want to keep those timeouts for under the
- 7:23Speaker 3: two minute warning because it gives them this false security
- 7:27Speaker 3: that even though we're underneath the two minute warning, I'm
- 7:31Speaker 3: still as a defensive player, I'm no longer at the mercy,
- 7:34Speaker 3: I can still stop the clock, when in reality, if
- 7:38Speaker 3: you would have stopped it on the plus side of
- 7:40Speaker 3: the two minute, you actually would have more remaining time
- 7:42Speaker 3: set in the event you force to stop and turnover
- 7:46Speaker 3: on downs or a punt or whatever.
- 7:47Speaker 5: But it just feels helpless to.
- 7:50Speaker 3: Not be able to stop the clock under the two
- 7:53Speaker 3: minute warning, which is why a lot of coaches opt
- 7:56Speaker 3: to use their timeouts on the bottom side, and that's
- 7:58Speaker 3: where they get in trouble because they split their timeouts.
- 8:01Speaker 3: But that's a whole different conversation. In that game, Yes,
- 8:04Speaker 3: they should have. I thought they should have went for it.
- 8:07Speaker 3: Try to take the lead. You're inside the ten, you're
- 8:10Speaker 3: the better team, you're big and physical, you pride yourself
- 8:13Speaker 3: on all these five stars. Go win the game. And
- 8:15Speaker 3: number two using the timeouts on defense, I thought. But
- 8:20Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it didn't really have
- 8:22Speaker 3: much of an effect. They didn't really have much of
- 8:24Speaker 3: a chance there at the end.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Yeah, I was watching the game last night, the Chiefs
- 8:29Speaker 2: versus the Texans, and then the Chiefs they pun it
- 8:33Speaker 2: to them. They're around like the thirty thirty five yard
- 8:35Speaker 2: line and there's like ten oh four left and it's
- 8:39Speaker 2: fourth and one, and they decided to go for it.
- 8:41Speaker 2: And that was a moment for me. I was like,
- 8:43Speaker 2: I wonder what Greg thinks about the situation because they
- 8:45Speaker 2: end up going for on fourth down because they're on
- 8:47Speaker 2: their own thirty five. They're on their own thirty five,
- 8:49Speaker 2: so it's fourth and one. If you don't get the
- 8:51Speaker 2: other team is obvious. They're already in field goal ring, right.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Both defenses have been playing incredible, like even though the
- 8:57Speaker 2: Chiefs defense is really like in the second half been
- 9:00Speaker 2: like way better than they were in the first half.
- 9:02Speaker 2: So they go for and fourth to one. Rashi Rice,
- 9:05Speaker 2: I think they You know, Mahome does a little bit
- 9:06Speaker 2: of magic, does it where she's getting hit as he's
- 9:09Speaker 2: the ball is hitting his hands, ends up dropping the ball.
- 9:11Speaker 2: It's Houston's ball. And you if you're the coach of
- 9:14Speaker 2: the Chiefs and I know and you read, he's an
- 9:16Speaker 2: absolute stud. He's at an offensive mindset. He's probably thinking
- 9:18Speaker 2: to himself, I got a war with my offense as
- 9:20Speaker 2: opposed to a defensive mindset, like Chris Collinsworth was talking
- 9:23Speaker 2: about on the broadcast, what would you do in the situation?
- 9:25Speaker 2: Are you putting and say, hey, we're incrementally like this
- 9:28Speaker 2: is the best move for us to play the field
- 9:30Speaker 2: position game at this point?
- 9:32Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was watching it live and I'll tell you,
- 9:35Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I would have said if I
- 9:36Speaker 3: was on the broadcast.
- 9:37Speaker 5: Is that fair?
- 9:38Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 9:39Speaker 3: I would have said, the numbers, the analytics, the models,
- 9:44Speaker 3: whatever you want.
- 9:44Speaker 5: To look at.
- 9:45Speaker 3: That is a go situation, and it was a pretty
- 9:48Speaker 3: significant ghost situation. I think the models again, people value
- 9:52Speaker 3: them differently between like three and five percent, so a
- 9:56Speaker 3: significant win percentage shared in a game where nobody could really.
- 10:01Speaker 5: Get anything going offensively.
- 10:04Speaker 3: I think, if I'm calling that game, I'm saying, hey,
- 10:07Speaker 3: the numbers tell you to go, and I am a
- 10:11Speaker 3: traditionally if it's close, I am, as individual always going
- 10:14Speaker 3: to err on the side of going. The better my
- 10:17Speaker 3: defense plays, actually, the more willing I am for my
- 10:20Speaker 3: offense to take some chances. We can talk about that
- 10:22Speaker 3: at a later time, but in that moment, I think,
- 10:26Speaker 3: I punt yeah, And that's me as like a guy
- 10:30Speaker 3: who really is in on this.
- 10:31Speaker 5: I see the value.
- 10:32Speaker 3: I understand giving your offense and your team every opportunity
- 10:36Speaker 3: to win the game in regulation, not for us overtime,
- 10:39Speaker 3: win the game in regulation, and that is one of
- 10:44Speaker 3: the times where I do think the context of the
- 10:46Speaker 3: game matters.
- 10:47Speaker 5: And if they.
- 10:49Speaker 3: Were ten yards further, if that ball was at the
- 10:51Speaker 3: forty instead of the thirty, I'm going for it. My
- 10:54Speaker 3: general rule of thumb, especially in a game where the
- 10:57Speaker 3: offenses are struggling. So Houston's offense had jack shit in
- 11:01Speaker 3: the last four possessions. I think my general rule of
- 11:04Speaker 3: thumb is if I give if I fail here and
- 11:06Speaker 3: I give you the ball back and you don't gain
- 11:09Speaker 3: one yard, it is fourth and ten, can you score
- 11:14Speaker 3: on me?
- 11:15Speaker 5: And if the answer is yes, I'm probably not going
- 11:18Speaker 5: to go for.
- 11:18Speaker 2: It, right, Yeah, because you're looking at how the game
- 11:22Speaker 2: is going. You're looking at Moe because you're going to kick.
- 11:24Speaker 3: You gain zero yards, you kick a field goal, and
- 11:26Speaker 3: you did nothing to earn those three points.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Were essentially giving it to you. Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
- 11:31Speaker 3: Now, if it was my game and it was the
- 11:33Speaker 3: Bengals and the Bills where the final score was thirty,
- 11:38Speaker 3: I don't know what it was, thirty thirty eight thirty,
- 11:41Speaker 3: it was both teams are over thirty, well into the thirties.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:44Speaker 3: Here, if I'm calling my game in that situation, I'm
- 11:49Speaker 3: going for that one hundred percent of the time. You
- 11:51Speaker 3: know why, because whether I punt you the ball or
- 11:55Speaker 3: I give you the ball, nobody has proven they can
- 11:57Speaker 3: stop anybody. So you're gonna or anyway, I might as
- 12:00Speaker 3: well make it a faster.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Hey, I'm one with you because you're also but what
- 12:06Speaker 2: you're talking about right now, is momentum of the game.
- 12:10Speaker 2: What's kind of happening. Yes, if you watched that game,
- 12:16Speaker 2: they go.
- 12:16Speaker 5: For the momentum. Best two aspects of the game that
- 12:20Speaker 5: wasn't momentum. That's who those teams are. Listen, they are
- 12:23Speaker 5: defensive teams.
- 12:25Speaker 2: First off, I have so much respect for you, so
- 12:27Speaker 2: much show that when I'm watching the games, literally you
- 12:30Speaker 2: know that is no Well hey, but well let me
- 12:35Speaker 2: talk about it. Did you watch it? Did you watch
- 12:37Speaker 2: that full game last night?
- 12:39Speaker 1: Which will game? I watched it, watched the second half.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Okay, so the second half, so you saw that them
- 12:43Speaker 2: go for.
- 12:43Speaker 1: The fourth and one.
- 12:45Speaker 2: Up until that point, the Houston Texans had negative three
- 12:48Speaker 2: yards total in the second half. They were not They
- 12:51Speaker 2: could not move the ball at all. Balls are getting
- 12:53Speaker 2: battered down, they were getting tackled in the backfield, sack
- 12:56Speaker 2: the whole thing. They were playing awful. The minute they
- 12:59Speaker 2: don't get that fourth and one, they run the ball
- 13:02Speaker 2: five times and score a touchdown. So that is what
- 13:05Speaker 2: we talked about last week where the den they stopped
- 13:11Speaker 2: one in the juice that enters that football team boom
- 13:17Speaker 2: on Houston side, they're walking in there going Hey, essentially, boys, Hey,
- 13:22Speaker 2: we're in a four minute type of situation. Stam bounced,
- 13:25Speaker 2: no holdings, no penalties, you know, stay staying in between
- 13:28Speaker 2: the tackles, hold the ball two hands. They convert the
- 13:30Speaker 2: third down. They end up scoring a touchdown with the
- 13:32Speaker 2: special teams running back. The game is over at that point.
- 13:37Speaker 3: Well it wasn't Overdy had two more possessions and what
- 13:40Speaker 3: did he do?
- 13:41Speaker 5: Well, they dropped four balls, one.
- 13:43Speaker 2: For I don't disagree like that to me, was and
- 13:45Speaker 2: I got.
- 13:46Speaker 1: The momentum took over.
- 13:47Speaker 2: The momentum took over of the game.
- 13:50Speaker 5: It was all moment.
- 13:54Speaker 2: During the SEC championship broadcast, you remember me talking about Greg,
- 13:57Speaker 2: I'm like, Greg's gonna hate this right now, but the
- 13:58Speaker 2: momentum is all on the Georgia side we're talking about, dude.
- 14:02Speaker 2: That is I know you hate it, but that is
- 14:05Speaker 2: truly when a defense is sitting there in the sideline,
- 14:08Speaker 2: I swear to God, all of us have done this,
- 14:10Speaker 2: whether you and me on offense or will on defense.
- 14:12Speaker 2: Something happens on your on the other side, and you're like,
- 14:16Speaker 2: fuck man, because you know, no matter what, they're getting
- 14:18Speaker 2: points and that is a deflator. You're still gonna play
- 14:22Speaker 2: just as hard. But those incremental things that you try
- 14:25Speaker 2: to grab right that you were talking about last week,
- 14:26Speaker 2: small little wins that equal a victory at the end
- 14:29Speaker 2: of the day. Momentum is a factor, and we saw
- 14:32Speaker 2: that last night on Sunday Night Football.
- 14:35Speaker 6: You.
- 14:36Speaker 3: I'm not debating that we all felt that way. I'm
- 14:39Speaker 3: not debating that we've all walked onto the field feeling
- 14:41Speaker 3: more confident or feeling better. I'm not saying any of
- 14:45Speaker 3: that's not real. All I'm suggesting is it has no
- 14:47Speaker 3: bearing on the outcomes of the plays.
- 14:51Speaker 5: All right, So let's take Thursday night.
- 14:52Speaker 2: I love it is exactly. This is the Monday I
- 14:55Speaker 2: wanted to start.
- 14:56Speaker 5: With Dallas Detroit.
- 14:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in the Bahamas with my wife celebrating her
- 15:03Speaker 3: fortieth birthday party.
- 15:04Speaker 1: Happy Birthday.
- 15:05Speaker 3: We had a great trip. We had a great trip,
- 15:08Speaker 3: having a couple of cocktails, having a great time. So
- 15:10Speaker 3: I'm like loosely following the game, but like we're at
- 15:14Speaker 3: dinner and we're hanging out with friends, so I'm not
- 15:16Speaker 3: like sitting there living and dying with it. And all
- 15:19Speaker 3: of a sudden my phone starts. I'm getting texts people,
- 15:23Speaker 3: are you watching this game?
- 15:24Speaker 5: Or thinking.
- 15:25Speaker 3: And the situation was Dallas was down ten on fourth down,
- 15:31Speaker 3: and they kicked a field goal to make it. How
- 15:34Speaker 3: many score game, guys.
- 15:35Speaker 2: One score game?
- 15:36Speaker 5: They made it a one score game. They were juiced.
- 15:39Speaker 5: They had all the momentum.
- 15:41Speaker 2: They had it.
- 15:42Speaker 5: They had it.
- 15:43Speaker 3: They took it from a two score game to a
- 15:45Speaker 3: one score game. They didn't go for touchdown. They kicked on.
- 15:49Speaker 5: Hey man, extend the game. Give guys hope.
- 15:52Speaker 3: Defense is gonna make a stop. Guess what Detroit did
- 15:56Speaker 3: on the next drive.
- 15:58Speaker 1: They went the entire to score a touchdown. I know,
- 16:02Speaker 1: but they had all the momentum.
- 16:03Speaker 5: I know by cutting it to one score.
- 16:06Speaker 3: I was told by cutting it to one score, if
- 16:09Speaker 3: you went for a fourth down and it stayed a
- 16:11Speaker 3: two score game, everyone was going to be deflated. But
- 16:14Speaker 3: by taking the points, by kicking a short field goal,
- 16:18Speaker 3: you gave everyone on that sideline a boost of energy
- 16:21Speaker 3: to take the field. I'm not saying they didn't take
- 16:23Speaker 3: the field excited. I'm sure the sideline was thrilled that
- 16:27Speaker 3: they were down seven with a chance to get the
- 16:29Speaker 3: ball back. With the way Dak was playing, I'm not
- 16:32Speaker 3: suggesting any of that wasn't real I'm just suggesting it
- 16:35Speaker 3: didn't mean jack shit.
- 16:36Speaker 1: And that's one two where you go for it on
- 16:38Speaker 1: fourth down if you're Dallas. A.
- 16:40Speaker 3: I think you go for it if you're Dallas because
- 16:42Speaker 3: the opportunity to cut that thing to three. Knowing my
- 16:46Speaker 3: defense is not playing very well all year, let alone
- 16:49Speaker 3: that game, my best case is, all right, am I
- 16:52Speaker 3: gonna hold him to a three and out punt?
- 16:55Speaker 5: Unlikely?
- 16:56Speaker 3: Maybe maybe if I'm motivated enough, But if maybe I
- 17:01Speaker 3: can hold him to a field goal. And remember we've
- 17:03Speaker 3: had this conversation before. You're up three on me and
- 17:08Speaker 3: I'm on defense, You're on offense, and you're up three
- 17:10Speaker 3: at the end of the game, are you really excited
- 17:13Speaker 3: to try to go up six or are you probably
- 17:16Speaker 3: gonna try to score a touchdown or and go for
- 17:19Speaker 3: it and remain up three. You're you don't want to
- 17:22Speaker 3: kick a field goal to go up six, because that's
- 17:24Speaker 3: a whole different conversation.
- 17:25Speaker 1: No matter what, we're gonna have four downs.
- 17:28Speaker 2: You'd rather be tied in that situation than even be
- 17:31Speaker 2: up six, because then they're gonna be like, we have
- 17:34Speaker 2: four downs. Now they're gaining themselves different down, but again.
- 17:37Speaker 3: They still getting really into the weeds that they took
- 17:41Speaker 3: ten to seven, which I was told is the key
- 17:44Speaker 3: to all of this.
- 17:45Speaker 5: Get it to one score.
- 17:47Speaker 3: Everyone is so motivated and the momentum is so high
- 17:51Speaker 3: in your favor, and Detroit went right down and scored
- 17:54Speaker 3: a touchdown.
- 17:55Speaker 5: You were back down ten.
- 17:56Speaker 2: For what this is? What this is?
- 17:59Speaker 1: Sixteen minutes is so.
- 18:00Speaker 2: Not a full sixty minutes, But like whatever point you're
- 18:02Speaker 2: on the game, if you're in the second half of
- 18:04Speaker 2: the game, it's so important to know you you now
- 18:06Speaker 2: as a coach, you know how everything's going. This week
- 18:10Speaker 2: or last week. Everybody was talking about Cowboys. Look at that.
- 18:13Speaker 2: They get Kenny Clark, they got Quentin Williams. Look much
- 18:16Speaker 2: better of their defense? Is who's the linebacker? Logan Wilson.
- 18:19Speaker 2: We're buying, and we're buying it. And I said, listen, boys,
- 18:22Speaker 2: I'll go with you the Cowboys. I'm gonna let you know.
- 18:24Speaker 2: I've done this before. I know how this song and
- 18:26Speaker 2: dance goes. So when this game and I the only
- 18:28Speaker 2: reason I know is because it's right here. The Lions
- 18:30Speaker 2: win forty four to thirty. So at this point in
- 18:34Speaker 2: the game, you know your defense as great as they've
- 18:37Speaker 2: on all of a sudden become or as at the
- 18:39Speaker 2: at the you know, average as, which is great for them.
- 18:43Speaker 2: You need to go get the seven. You have to
- 18:45Speaker 2: go get the seven in situation because what is the
- 18:47Speaker 2: strength of your team. The strength of your team is
- 18:49Speaker 2: Dak Prescott and the wide receivers ceed the lamb at
- 18:51Speaker 2: this time is out though, But it's it's everything situational.
- 18:55Speaker 2: That's what makes football incredible. Now, if we have the
- 18:57Speaker 2: same situation and we are the Chiefs and the Texans,
- 19:02Speaker 2: I might lean a little bit more on taking three
- 19:05Speaker 2: now because it's like, hey, at the end of the day,
- 19:07Speaker 2: like I believe my defense can stop them and get
- 19:09Speaker 2: that three and out, go for a punt, maybe with
- 19:11Speaker 2: something crazy can happen. And then I have Patrick Mahomes.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Does do you are you?
- 19:16Speaker 2: Are you buying? Are you buying that at all?
- 19:18Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure out what yard line they were on?
- 19:20Speaker 5: Give me a second. Yeah, when they kicked the field goal.
- 19:25Speaker 1: The Cowboys, Yeah, well it wasn't short.
- 19:30Speaker 5: I want to say it was inside the five.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Hold on, yeah they were. They were fairly close. They
- 19:33Speaker 1: were pretty close.
- 19:34Speaker 2: Oh if you're inside the five, buddy, Like this.
- 19:36Speaker 3: Is the field goal? They kicked the field goal, uh
- 19:49Speaker 3: from the eleven and fourth, fourth and three.
- 19:53Speaker 5: At the eleven.
- 19:54Speaker 3: All right, so let me ask, so let's stay with
- 19:56Speaker 3: that train of thought about the good defenses. Right, so
- 19:58Speaker 3: we'll take the will take the Chiefs Houston game to
- 20:02Speaker 3: put them in the exact same context.
- 20:04Speaker 1: And let's say it's seventeen to seven.
- 20:06Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a low scoring game, ten ten, seventeen seven,
- 20:09Speaker 3: whatever it is. It's yeah, seventeen. Well, well, we'll take
- 20:13Speaker 3: the exact same situation. Right, let's say it's yeah, seventeen seven.
- 20:17Speaker 5: Is that what you said?
- 20:17Speaker 3: I yeah, seventeen seven. Yeah, I'm sorry, seventeen to seven.
- 20:23Speaker 3: And I'm whichever team let's say I'm Kansas City because
- 20:27Speaker 3: they made the decision you know that everyone didn't like.
- 20:29Speaker 3: And they're trailing seventeen to seven. Yeah, and they have
- 20:32Speaker 3: the ball fourth and three at the eleven, kicking that
- 20:35Speaker 3: field goal to go fourteen to ten.
- 20:37Speaker 5: I now kick the ball back off to c J.
- 20:39Speaker 3: Stroud and I give them the ball let's say the
- 20:42Speaker 3: thirty five yard line.
- 20:44Speaker 5: Do you think CJ.
- 20:45Speaker 3: Stroud or if my defense is dominating the game and
- 20:49Speaker 3: my offense is struggling, don't you think I should give
- 20:53Speaker 3: my offense the advantage if I'm gonna tip the scales
- 20:57Speaker 3: as a coach in and give the advantage. Which the
- 21:01Speaker 3: advantage or the short straw? Do you think you should
- 21:04Speaker 3: give the advantage to the team that's already really good
- 21:06Speaker 3: in this case, your defense and protect them and not?
- 21:10Speaker 3: Or do you think you should give you your offense
- 21:12Speaker 3: the advantage because you're telling me how good your defense is?
- 21:15Speaker 2: No, I understand. What do you want your defense to
- 21:18Speaker 2: have the advantage? You want to give your offense as
- 21:19Speaker 2: much help as possible.
- 21:21Speaker 3: Yeah, So, if anybody's got to carry the short straw,
- 21:23Speaker 3: make it your defense, because I'm told how good they are,
- 21:26Speaker 3: and my offense is clearly struggling because we only have
- 21:28Speaker 3: seven points in this scenario, give them every chance because
- 21:32Speaker 3: I might not get the ball down to the eleven. Ever, again,
- 21:35Speaker 3: my best point, my best chance of trying this game
- 21:38Speaker 3: might be a fifty yard field goal down three. There's
- 21:42Speaker 3: no change going down seven, even if I get a stop.
- 21:46Speaker 3: The way this game is gone, there's no guarantee I
- 21:48Speaker 3: can even score a touchdown. I've only scored one up.
- 21:51Speaker 5: Into this point.
- 21:52Speaker 3: What tells you with the game on the line, you're
- 21:54Speaker 3: all of a suddenly going to figure out this Houston
- 21:56Speaker 3: defense and with the game on the line, go the
- 21:59Speaker 3: length of the field and score. So no matter how
- 22:03Speaker 3: you look at it, whether it's a high scoring game,
- 22:05Speaker 3: all right, you got to match points, keep your offense,
- 22:07Speaker 3: keep them on the field, or it's a low scoring game.
- 22:10Speaker 5: Hey, my defense is so much better than my offense.
- 22:12Speaker 3: I need to give my offense all That's what Andy
- 22:14Speaker 3: Reid was thinking the other night. Andy Reid was thinking,
- 22:17Speaker 3: in a three down possession, I can't crack this Houston
- 22:21Speaker 3: defense there, I just I can't get it first down. Yeap,
- 22:25Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to use fourth down at some point.
- 22:28Speaker 3: What better forget the yard forget the yard line. In
- 22:31Speaker 3: his brain, he's saying, if I'm gonna give my offense
- 22:33Speaker 3: a chance to sustain a possession, to even kick a
- 22:36Speaker 3: field goal, I need to use fourth down because three
- 22:40Speaker 3: is clearly not getting it done. I got fourth and one.
- 22:43Speaker 3: It's no, it's never gonna get any better than that.
- 22:46Speaker 3: Fourth and one in the NFL is like seventy percent
- 22:48Speaker 3: conversion rate.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you're saying, in a situation where it's seventeen ten,
- 22:53Speaker 1: you're still going to go for it because chances of
- 22:55Speaker 1: you being down at the eleven again or getting.
- 22:57Speaker 3: The top seventeen to seven exactly, So situation we're talking about,
- 23:01Speaker 3: low scoring, defensive battle. I'm still going for a touchdown
- 23:05Speaker 3: because seventeen to seven from the eleven, fourth and three
- 23:08Speaker 3: from the eleven. If I kick a field goal there
- 23:11Speaker 3: and I even and I get a stop, I get
- 23:14Speaker 3: a three and out. Great, that's best case scenario. Do
- 23:18Speaker 3: you have a ton of confidence that you're gonna be
- 23:20Speaker 3: able to get the ball down there again and score
- 23:22Speaker 3: when you haven't really been able to do it the
- 23:24Speaker 3: entire game.
- 23:25Speaker 2: No, that's a good point. Yeah, you know what I'm
- 23:27Speaker 2: I'm sitting over here and i know there's supposed to
- 23:29Speaker 2: be this debate happening, but I'm kind of I'm seeing
- 23:31Speaker 2: where you're coming from.
- 23:33Speaker 1: Here's the lasting watch all these situations. I'm like trying
- 23:37Speaker 1: to figure him out so much differently now, just with
- 23:40Speaker 1: Greg coming on each.
- 23:41Speaker 2: Week, It's like, yeah, he's a person. Life makes you
- 23:44Speaker 2: watch the world a little bit different.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've enjoyed it.
- 23:47Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that, but it's not necessarily like me,
- 23:51Speaker 3: I'm not trying to like champion this like crazy, radical
- 23:54Speaker 3: new age of thinking. But this is the way that
- 23:58Speaker 3: teams are thinking about the game. Andy Reid did not
- 24:02Speaker 3: make that decision in a vacuum, in the moment, out
- 24:06Speaker 3: of thin air. We're talking about a guy that's played
- 24:08Speaker 3: in six Super Bowls. Seven Super Bowls one four aren't
- 24:14Speaker 3: going to be a Hall of Fame first ballot. This
- 24:16Speaker 3: guy's forgotten more about football than nice Andy Reid. He's
- 24:21Speaker 3: forgotten more football than pretty much vast majority of the
- 24:25Speaker 3: people that are on earth. And people are just so
- 24:30Speaker 3: excited to crush him this morning for that decision. Because
- 24:35Speaker 3: we only we only evaluate the outcome if they got
- 24:40Speaker 3: a yard and a half there and they went down
- 24:42Speaker 3: and kicked the field goal, and let's say they ended
- 24:45Speaker 3: up winning the game. There was not going to be
- 24:47Speaker 3: one article, one tweet, one radio host, not one personality
- 24:52Speaker 3: maybe outside of this show, who was going to go
- 24:54Speaker 3: you know why they won because Andy Reid went for
- 24:58Speaker 3: it on fourth down and we need to give him
- 24:59Speaker 3: a a plus.
- 25:00Speaker 5: No one was set.
- 25:01Speaker 3: No one applauds when it works. No one this morning
- 25:05Speaker 3: woke up and said, Sean McDermott up by four end
- 25:09Speaker 3: of the game instead of kicking a field goal to
- 25:13Speaker 3: go up seven and take the point and make it
- 25:15Speaker 3: a touchdown game. He went for fourth down because he's
- 25:19Speaker 3: got the best player in the world, and Josh Allen
- 25:21Speaker 3: scores a touchdown to make it a true two score
- 25:23Speaker 3: game and it was over but no one had but
- 25:27Speaker 3: if he failed, and Joe Burrow then went down by four,
- 25:30Speaker 3: went the length of the field and had a walk
- 25:32Speaker 3: off touchdown. Sean McDermott's he's the number one topic of
- 25:36Speaker 3: every sports show this morning, and he's getting crushed, but
- 25:40Speaker 3: no one's giving him praise for making the right decision.
- 25:46Speaker 3: And that's why coaches are so scared to do this,
- 25:49Speaker 3: because it's easier to stand at the podium and say
- 25:54Speaker 3: kick the field goal, went up seven. Got to do
- 25:56Speaker 3: a better job getting a stop in that moment. Well,
- 25:58Speaker 3: you didn't get to stop the whole game. Joe Burrow
- 26:00Speaker 3: was incredible outside of one pick six that he just
- 26:03Speaker 3: threw to the gether. Like, we judge the outcome so
- 26:07Speaker 3: evenly because people are so anti this analytics tag that
- 26:12Speaker 3: they throw on everything, and I don't even think people
- 26:16Speaker 3: know what the hell they're talking about.
- 26:17Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, no, Yeah, The world of football as we
- 26:20Speaker 2: know it is evolving in front of our eyes, and
- 26:22Speaker 2: it's taking a lot of time for people to catch
- 26:24Speaker 2: up to the thought process of it's no longer about
- 26:26Speaker 2: playing field position being conservative, is now about let's define
- 26:30Speaker 2: the game right now. When the time to define the
- 26:33Speaker 2: game happens, we're going to define it good or bad.
- 26:36Speaker 2: We're going to know where we're at after this play.
- 26:37Speaker 1: And I love I love how you take it to
- 26:39Speaker 1: the thought process of the head coach, like the absolute leader,
- 26:42Speaker 1: the guy who has all the responsibility and accountability, because
- 26:45Speaker 1: you're right, it's like if you kick go up seven,
- 26:47Speaker 1: Joe Burrow goes down, ties it or whatever it is.
- 26:50Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we need to do a better job
- 26:51Speaker 1: of getting to stop. Like all everything will be essentially
- 26:56Speaker 1: on the players. Not that they're blaming the players, but
- 26:58Speaker 1: everything's so easy to kind of sit there say we
- 27:00Speaker 1: got to do a better job of getting the stop,
- 27:02Speaker 1: and then all the the reporters and writers of the
- 27:05Speaker 1: world curated to essentially the players not getting the stop.
- 27:08Speaker 2: They've got to figure Yeah, And it's also what Dan
- 27:10Speaker 2: Quinn and Dan Campbell, these are the two that kind
- 27:12Speaker 2: of started this whole thing of going for and fourth
- 27:15Speaker 2: down and coaches are starting to realize, or the ones
- 27:17Speaker 2: that have some a sack are like, Okay, if we're
- 27:21Speaker 2: gonna get something done, like it's going to be defined
- 27:23Speaker 2: not when it hit zero, but when it's five minutes
- 27:26Speaker 2: left in the game. We're gonna know exactly how this
- 27:28Speaker 2: outcome is gonna happen.
- 27:29Speaker 1: And if it doesn't work out, I'll be the one
- 27:30Speaker 1: up there. I'll take every fucking.
- 27:32Speaker 2: Tick, every bullet in the world. Which is a ball
- 27:35Speaker 2: to do.
- 27:36Speaker 3: Do you guys remember two years ago in the playoffs
- 27:38Speaker 3: when Dan Campbell when the Lions lost.
- 27:41Speaker 2: Yep, was the Packers.
- 27:43Speaker 5: Yeah, the NFC champion.
- 27:45Speaker 1: I believe NFC Championship because I'm like screaming at the
- 27:48Speaker 1: TV saying I don't know why you're not kicking the
- 27:50Speaker 1: field goal?
- 27:50Speaker 5: I should I should.
- 27:52Speaker 2: Hey, that's big of you to sit there and be like,
- 27:54Speaker 2: I know.
- 27:54Speaker 3: I want to say. It was the forty nine ers
- 27:56Speaker 3: in the NFC Championship.
- 27:58Speaker 1: Yes, and they lost. There's a couple fourth downs where
- 28:01Speaker 1: it's like their story.
- 28:02Speaker 3: I think they went over three. H they at least
- 28:05Speaker 3: went over two. He might have went over three. You
- 28:09Speaker 3: remember him after the game standing at the podium, and
- 28:12Speaker 3: he's an emotional where's his emotions on a sleeve type
- 28:15Speaker 3: of a guy. And he's answering and he's standing tall,
- 28:18Speaker 3: but you could tell he's crushed. And he stood there
- 28:21Speaker 3: and he just ate it and he just took it.
- 28:24Speaker 3: And if he says, I'll do it again, and everybody
- 28:29Speaker 3: wanted to kill him, right, everybody couldn't believe it.
- 28:32Speaker 5: You cost your sale seat.
- 28:34Speaker 3: But when you take a step back, Detroit's not in
- 28:38Speaker 3: the NFC Championship without that approach, right. So we were
- 28:43Speaker 3: fine with it when they were the greatest story in football,
- 28:46Speaker 3: but now all of a sudden it didn't work out. Right,
- 28:48Speaker 3: We want to judge the outcome, not the reason why
- 28:51Speaker 3: they did it, just the outcome, which is so lazy
- 28:53Speaker 3: and it's so easy to sit in hindsight and retrospect
- 28:57Speaker 3: and go, man, I was a dumb decision. Well, yeah,
- 28:59Speaker 3: you have the luxury of knowing the result. That's not
- 29:02Speaker 3: decision making. That's not the world. And has Dan Campbell
- 29:07Speaker 3: changed one ounce of his approach since then?
- 29:10Speaker 1: No? No, do you think.
- 29:12Speaker 3: He's scared to get up in front of the press
- 29:13Speaker 3: conference and answer it again if it doesn't work?
- 29:16Speaker 1: No? I like it diving into uh where you were
- 29:22Speaker 1: touching on earlier the Bengals Bills over there like twenty
- 29:25Speaker 1: something points scored in the last few minutes of the game. Bro,
- 29:29Speaker 1: How nuts of a game was that? Man, We had
- 29:31Speaker 1: the snow going out there, them trying to brush the
- 29:36Speaker 1: yard lines off. The numbers like that was when everybody
- 29:39Speaker 1: watching at home, that's like, this is football right here.
- 29:42Speaker 2: You're starting to hear everybody go, we're in playoff football. Yeah,
- 29:45Speaker 2: it's our playoffs. This is it, and it's fucking it's
- 29:48Speaker 2: awesome to see.
- 29:49Speaker 1: Yeah, Bengals had a lead and then those last few minutes,
- 29:53Speaker 1: man just flipped.
- 29:54Speaker 2: Which is which is great because I mean you said
- 29:57Speaker 2: it earlier. Like Josh Allen, he's the greatest FOOTBA player
- 29:59Speaker 2: in the world world. The last four or five weeks,
- 30:02Speaker 2: it's kind of been in question a little bit, like
- 30:04Speaker 2: he hasn't his wide receiver group. They're not getting a
- 30:07Speaker 2: whole lot of separation. He's holding the ball up more.
- 30:08Speaker 2: He's not being as dynamic getting down down the field
- 30:11Speaker 2: as we saw him win the MVP last year. And
- 30:13Speaker 2: then half the game he has in front of you
- 30:15Speaker 2: while you're calling it, like, I just that fires me
- 30:18Speaker 2: up for Buffalo to be like, oh, that's the same
- 30:21Speaker 2: fucking dude, because they're starting to get chattered whisper, Hey, hey,
- 30:24Speaker 2: Josh Allen. Is he not saying he's not the guy,
- 30:26Speaker 2: but is he having a down year? Is it his fault?
- 30:28Speaker 2: Is he the reason? And so watching all unfold, man,
- 30:31Speaker 2: it was incredible from your vantage point. Did the Bengals
- 30:36Speaker 2: fucked this game up? Or was it just so it
- 30:38Speaker 2: was just like Josh Allen and the dominance of the
- 30:40Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills that really brought it home.
- 30:43Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:43Speaker 3: I think we saw two really high level quarterbacks just
- 30:46Speaker 3: absolutely rip it for four quarters.
- 30:49Speaker 5: And there was one bad playmate.
- 30:52Speaker 3: And Joe Burrow had Christian Benford come off the slot
- 30:56Speaker 3: and it was a hint it was a run play.
- 30:58Speaker 5: So we had talked.
- 30:59Speaker 3: We had talked at the be getting everything that Buffalo
- 31:01Speaker 3: is trying to do in the run game is they're
- 31:02Speaker 3: gonna use some corner cats, they're gonna use some perimeter
- 31:05Speaker 3: pressure from safeties and corners, and they're gonna try to
- 31:08Speaker 3: knife you and cause some negative runs. Right, everything's about
- 31:11Speaker 3: trying to create negatives on those early downs. So Joe
- 31:14Speaker 3: Burrow sees Christian Benford come off the slot and he's
- 31:17Speaker 3: pulling the ball and you can see he's trying to
- 31:19Speaker 3: get a handle on it to throw like a little
- 31:21Speaker 3: inside little lookie, like a little looky dart into the
- 31:25Speaker 3: into the void of where the pressure came from off
- 31:28Speaker 3: the off the edge, and he just doesn't get a
- 31:31Speaker 3: great handle on it, and he kind of pushes it
- 31:34Speaker 3: and he doesn't get nearly enough height on it, and
- 31:36Speaker 3: he throws it right into the hands of Christian Bedford
- 31:38Speaker 3: and he takes it back for a touchdown. Outside of
- 31:41Speaker 3: that play, you can't play quarterback better than Joe Burrow
- 31:46Speaker 3: and Josh Allen did collectively in a game.
- 31:49Speaker 5: It was big time froze.
- 31:51Speaker 3: It was in pressure, it was escapability, it was in
- 31:54Speaker 3: the snow accuracy, it was all of it encompassed into
- 31:59Speaker 3: one game. And that was an unfortunate play by Burrow,
- 32:03Speaker 3: and shit happens, but it was remarkable. And the point
- 32:07Speaker 3: about Josh Allen, so we said in our open a
- 32:11Speaker 3: lot of talk about James Cook in this run game
- 32:13Speaker 3: and the style which looks very different than what it
- 32:17Speaker 3: used to look like in the early days of Josh Allen,
- 32:18Speaker 3: where he was in the shotgun on every play and
- 32:21Speaker 3: he had the ball in his hand on every play,
- 32:22Speaker 3: and it was magic and he was Superman for four quarters.
- 32:26Speaker 3: The last couple of weeks, to your point, Tailors is
- 32:29Speaker 3: you're exactly right. They got very much away from that.
- 32:32Speaker 3: Last week two weeks ago against Pittsburgh, Josh was a
- 32:35Speaker 3: relative non factor outside of run here and there. It
- 32:38Speaker 3: was a heavy, heavy run game with Cook. We sat
- 32:41Speaker 3: in our open don't let it fool you. Critical moments,
- 32:45Speaker 3: critical downs, third down, goal line, gotta have it, two
- 32:48Speaker 3: minute drill, everything's on the line. The ball is going
- 32:51Speaker 3: to be in Josh Allen's hand, and he single handedly
- 32:54Speaker 3: won the game. He's got a forty something yard scramble
- 32:58Speaker 3: touchdown when they were down ten to cut it, then
- 33:03Speaker 3: again to play the game. Third and fifteen. Cincinnati is
- 33:06Speaker 3: about to get the ball punted back to him down five.
- 33:09Speaker 3: They just sacked Josh on second on they sacked him
- 33:13Speaker 3: on first down, so it was third and fifteen. They
- 33:16Speaker 3: max drop, they only rush four. They don't get to him,
- 33:19Speaker 3: and he scrambles untouched for a first down.
- 33:22Speaker 5: And they taken me and win the game. I mean,
- 33:23Speaker 5: he was the.
- 33:24Speaker 3: Best player on the field, and that's the Josh Allen
- 33:28Speaker 3: and the Buffalo Bills that were accustomed to seeing and
- 33:31Speaker 3: when it mattered most that did feel like a playoff game.
- 33:34Speaker 3: Even though one team was eight four one team was
- 33:36Speaker 3: four and eight. It had playoff fives, playoff atmosphere, and
- 33:39Speaker 3: Josh Allen was the best player on the field.
- 33:41Speaker 1: You think this Buffalo Bills team's got enough to get
- 33:44Speaker 1: to the super Bowl this year? You know, great hates question,
- 33:48Speaker 1: I know, but it's like when you go against these
- 33:50Speaker 1: legit defenses, no, just in Denver, Like the thing with
- 33:55Speaker 1: Buffalo is their inconsistency and kind of the you know,
- 33:58Speaker 1: their their weakness is their defense. Yeah, so when you're
- 34:01Speaker 1: going up against these these elite defenses that I just mentioned,
- 34:04Speaker 1: it's like, you know, do they have enough? Are they
- 34:07Speaker 1: going to have enough to get to the super Bowl?
- 34:08Speaker 1: Because that's kind of the question with the Bills every year.
- 34:12Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the advantage in the AFC for all
- 34:15Speaker 3: the teams. So I'm gonna answer your question and not
- 34:18Speaker 3: answer your question. The answer is yes, right, I think
- 34:21Speaker 3: they're good enough, and I think partially is because of
- 34:25Speaker 3: Josh Allen and when you have a quarterback like that,
- 34:27Speaker 3: especially if Lamar's not in it and Burrow's not in
- 34:30Speaker 3: it and Mahomes isn't in it, Like if that all
- 34:32Speaker 3: plays out, that those teams are all home for as
- 34:35Speaker 3: good as Drake May is. Oh, Nick's like these guys
- 34:38Speaker 3: are Drake May could potentially be the MVP. Do any
- 34:42Speaker 3: of those AFC teams really scare you? Are you saying,
- 34:46Speaker 3: oh my god, how are we going to beat the
- 34:48Speaker 3: fifteen win Chiefs? Oh my god, how are we going
- 34:50Speaker 3: to beat the thirteen win.
- 34:53Speaker 5: Ravens?
- 34:54Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, not really, not really.
- 34:57Speaker 3: I think any of those AFC teams could be any
- 34:59Speaker 3: of those teams. I think the path through the AFC
- 35:03Speaker 3: this year is vastly different than it has been the
- 35:06Speaker 3: last couple of years, where it was almost a foregone
- 35:08Speaker 3: conclusion it was going to come down to some combination
- 35:11Speaker 3: of Lamar, Josh Allen, and Mahomes. Right, seemed like everybody
- 35:15Speaker 3: else was just playing like fun games, like, yeah, it's
- 35:18Speaker 3: really cool that the Texans made it. Oh, it's really cool.
- 35:21Speaker 3: But did any of those teams really think that they
- 35:23Speaker 3: were going to make a run to the Super Bowl?
- 35:25Speaker 5: Not really.
- 35:27Speaker 3: I think every all seven AFC teams that end up
- 35:31Speaker 3: making it this year, I think home away whatever. If
- 35:36Speaker 3: I was in the AFC, I would not be scared
- 35:38Speaker 3: to play any of them. I'm probably not thrilled to
- 35:41Speaker 3: play Houston's defense.
- 35:43Speaker 2: Yeah, they are so good.
- 35:47Speaker 5: I don't fear.
- 35:48Speaker 3: All the advantage I have playing against Houston is I'm
- 35:52Speaker 3: not like, holy shit, the defense is so good and
- 35:54Speaker 3: I got to find a way to score twenty five points.
- 35:57Speaker 3: You might be able to beat them by scoring thirteen
- 36:01Speaker 3: to seventeen points.
- 36:02Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's not like NFC feels like
- 36:06Speaker 1: it's what the NFC West and the Packers.
- 36:08Speaker 5: NFC is a juggernaut.
- 36:10Speaker 2: NFC is psychotical.
- 36:11Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, I don't want to throw the Niners
- 36:13Speaker 1: out of it at all because of what they've done
- 36:15Speaker 1: this year. But so you got the Rams, Seattle, the Niners,
- 36:19Speaker 1: and the Packers, I feel like are the ones that
- 36:21Speaker 1: are playing high level football.
- 36:23Speaker 3: Yeah, even though defending Super Bowl champion and the defending
- 36:26Speaker 3: Super Bowl champ who yes have been a very weird
- 36:30Speaker 3: anomaly as far, still could arguably be the most talented,
- 36:35Speaker 3: not the best, but the most talented roster in football
- 36:38Speaker 3: who just went on a playoff run last year and won.
- 36:40Speaker 5: The whole thing.
- 36:41Speaker 3: And they're like the fifth sixth option out of the NFC, right, now.
- 36:45Speaker 2: On paper, right, yeah, that is scary. But for Buffalo,
- 36:49Speaker 2: to me, it's like, if you run into a team
- 36:52Speaker 2: that can run the ball effectively and play good defense,
- 36:56Speaker 2: you're you're in trouble. That's where that's you get Bige,
- 36:58Speaker 2: that's where we get to right their offense. But like
- 37:02Speaker 2: Bo Nicks, Sean Payton and the dever Broncos, I feel
- 37:05Speaker 2: like they might be from a playoff standpoint, the most
- 37:08Speaker 2: built to play in the playoffs.
- 37:10Speaker 1: Until the Patriots go down. Man, I like, obviously they've
- 37:13Speaker 1: had a weaker schedule when we talk about schedules, and
- 37:16Speaker 1: we're gonna get see it this weekend when it's Buffalo
- 37:18Speaker 1: Patriots round two now.
- 37:20Speaker 2: But the thing that I don't know who I was
- 37:22Speaker 2: listening to on the drive is Coward. He was talking
- 37:26Speaker 2: about the Patriots and he's like, yeah, but they they
- 37:29Speaker 2: are not like really great at wearing the football. They're
- 37:31Speaker 2: great throwing the football, which is I know, great. Trust me,
- 37:34Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'll land this plan to where we can
- 37:35Speaker 2: both agree. But when you get into the playoffs and
- 37:37Speaker 2: you're playing in the stadiums in January, when it's open
- 37:40Speaker 2: that the weather is different, it's freezing outside wind everywhere snow,
- 37:45Speaker 2: it's now more difficult to throw the ball down the
- 37:48Speaker 2: field the way that the Patriots have. It's like you
- 37:51Speaker 2: have elements playing against you along with the defense as well.
- 37:53Speaker 2: That's what makes me worried for the Patriots, because you're right,
- 37:56Speaker 2: like the best team in the AFC right now is
- 37:57Speaker 2: clearly the Patriots.
- 38:00Speaker 3: Oh, I agree with. I don't disagree or pushback on anything.
- 38:03Speaker 3: You just say, playoff football the formula for playing good offense.
- 38:07Speaker 3: You know, just winning in the playoffs is very different
- 38:10Speaker 3: than winning in the regular season.
- 38:12Speaker 2: You've said that a few times on the show.
- 38:13Speaker 3: So as I sit here and talk about the value
- 38:15Speaker 3: of the passing game and scoring points and all that
- 38:18Speaker 3: in the regular season.
- 38:20Speaker 5: Yes, when you look at the best.
- 38:22Speaker 3: Teams year in and you're out, there's always going to
- 38:24Speaker 3: be a couple that are like top five defenses and
- 38:27Speaker 3: like middle of the road to bottom half offenses. The
- 38:31Speaker 3: vast majority of the teams in the playoffs every year
- 38:35Speaker 3: are going to find themselves in like the top ten
- 38:37Speaker 3: of offense. Different years. There's different anomalies, but over large
- 38:42Speaker 3: periods of times it's an offensive driven playoff picture. And
- 38:46Speaker 3: then there's the couple wrinkles when you get to the
- 38:48Speaker 3: playoffs and all the crappy teams are home, and we're
- 38:52Speaker 3: only left with teams that are for the most part
- 38:54Speaker 3: good at offense. They're probably have a good quarterback, there's
- 38:57Speaker 3: probably some element of a passing game. Now, what is
- 39:00Speaker 3: the differentiating factor to weed out the remaining teams? Run
- 39:05Speaker 3: game defense, special teams, clock management, end of game strategy like,
- 39:10Speaker 3: that's where all those things carry even a bigger significant
- 39:15Speaker 3: So no, I don't push back on any of that.
- 39:16Speaker 3: I think running them. I think the way Josh. I
- 39:18Speaker 3: think the way the Bills are built. While they're nine
- 39:22Speaker 3: and four in the regular season and people are going,
- 39:24Speaker 3: what's wrong with the Bills. We're used to them having
- 39:26Speaker 3: thirteen wins, I actually think a worse regular season record
- 39:31Speaker 3: as a result of the way they're playing, I actually
- 39:34Speaker 3: think bodes better for them come playoff time because they
- 39:38Speaker 3: don't need a hero performance every single minute in every
- 39:41Speaker 3: play from Josh Allen. And that's been their problem in
- 39:44Speaker 3: the years past.
- 39:46Speaker 2: The thing that going to the other team that just
- 39:47Speaker 2: played the Bengals, you know, those things obviously out of
- 39:50Speaker 2: the controllables are like Joe Burrow every year he's getting hurt,
- 39:53Speaker 2: and you kind of go back to the after his
- 39:55Speaker 2: first season when he tore his ACL and they're like,
- 39:57Speaker 2: they have a top five pick, they should take an
- 39:59Speaker 2: offensive lineman. They name taking Jamar Chase, which is you know,
- 40:01Speaker 2: obviously played out extremely well, but every year he's getting hurt.
- 40:05Speaker 2: He's three and one this year as a quarterback, and
- 40:07Speaker 2: their defense is terrible. Like, as you're watching the game
- 40:10Speaker 2: and just from your football brain seeing everything on the field,
- 40:13Speaker 2: how far off is that defense and is that offensive
- 40:16Speaker 2: line from being like, Okay, we can now start looking
- 40:19Speaker 2: at the Bengals again as a team that we need
- 40:20Speaker 2: to throw in the AFC consistently, because every preseason it's like, oh, yeah,
- 40:24Speaker 2: these are the guys and you less enough the quarterback
- 40:27Speaker 2: and Joe Burrow's clearly in there, but then it's always
- 40:29Speaker 2: an injury that takes place, and look how shitty their
- 40:31Speaker 2: defense is.
- 40:34Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think offensively, I'm not saying the offensive
- 40:38Speaker 3: line is great. They're average to blow average as a group,
- 40:43Speaker 3: but quarterbacks elevate the ceiling of an offense and offensive line.
- 40:48Speaker 5: Elevate the floor.
- 40:49Speaker 3: Right, So the better your offensive line is, you just
- 40:51Speaker 3: build up. Okay, we're at least as good as this,
- 40:54Speaker 3: whatever that level is. But when you have a quarterback
- 40:56Speaker 3: and you have Jamar Chase and t Higgins was great yesterday,
- 40:59Speaker 3: and you have all this skill and the ability to score,
- 41:02Speaker 3: you can outplay your offensive line. You can play above
- 41:06Speaker 3: and beyond what they're capable of. I think the year
- 41:09Speaker 3: that they went to the Super Bowl, wasn't he sacked like.
- 41:14Speaker 5: Seventy times? Yea, the most you sacked one hundred times
- 41:18Speaker 5: in that game.
- 41:19Speaker 2: But that game came down to Aaron Donnald.
- 41:21Speaker 3: Couldn't protect the passer because Aaron Donald, who was an animal.
- 41:24Speaker 3: So I say all of that to say, offensively, I
- 41:26Speaker 3: think they're fine. Now you're paying a ton of money
- 41:29Speaker 3: to offensive skill players, and that's gonna come at the
- 41:33Speaker 3: demise of something else. Right, You're gonna have to draft really,
- 41:36Speaker 3: really well. You're gonna have to win. You draft offensive lineman,
- 41:39Speaker 3: defensive lineman. You're gonna have to play a lot of
- 41:42Speaker 3: young players because you need some cheap contracts to offset
- 41:45Speaker 3: the really expensive guys. And that's the nature of anybody
- 41:48Speaker 3: who's paid a top, top of the market quarterback, and
- 41:51Speaker 3: that's anybody that has multiple highly paid offensive or defensive
- 41:56Speaker 3: players but traditionally offensively, So it really puts a ton
- 42:01Speaker 3: of stress on your draft picks and those young d
- 42:03Speaker 3: linemen and those young linebackers that Cincinnati right now has
- 42:07Speaker 3: in the lineup, how fast and how good can they be?
- 42:10Speaker 3: Because again, they don't need to be the Houston Texans defense.
- 42:14Speaker 3: They don't need to hold people to fourteen points a game.
- 42:17Speaker 3: If they could, it's kind of along the lines of
- 42:19Speaker 3: like Dallas, right, So I kind of look at them
- 42:22Speaker 3: at the same portion. If they could keep their offense
- 42:24Speaker 3: exactly where it is and just get middle of the road,
- 42:28Speaker 3: be the sixteenth, the eighteenth, the twentieth rank defense ind
- 42:32Speaker 3: points per game, you're gonna win a lot of games,
- 42:35Speaker 3: but you can't be scoring thirty and give up thirty two.
- 42:39Speaker 3: And that's Dallas, that's Cincinnati. So I think that's all
- 42:44Speaker 3: of their resources going forward have to be put on
- 42:47Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball. And that's easier said
- 42:50Speaker 3: than done because it's gonna mostly come through the draft,
- 42:54Speaker 3: and you better draft really well because those guys are
- 42:56Speaker 3: gonna play, and if they don't play, you got no
- 42:59Speaker 3: shot because you missed on your draft picks and all
- 43:01Speaker 3: your cheap assets aren't good enough to elevate the game
- 43:05Speaker 3: and you just it's gonna be what they have.
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- 46:03Speaker 1: get back to this episode with Greg Ols. When are
- 46:07Speaker 1: we gonna start giving some respect to the Jacksonville Jaguars.
- 46:10Speaker 1: I'm not ready to sneaky sneak sak in the AFC. Trevor, like,
- 46:18Speaker 1: the offense is playing better. Obviously that'll be kind of
- 46:21Speaker 1: the question mark going into the playoffs. But they have
- 46:23Speaker 1: what the number one run defense in football right now,
- 46:28Speaker 1: they're top, they're up there. Jaguars are up there defensively
- 46:30Speaker 1: stopping the run. But Jaguars can be spicy in the playoffs.
- 46:34Speaker 2: Greg, Yeah, they play.
- 46:36Speaker 3: Yeah, And it goes back to our previous conversation. I
- 46:39Speaker 3: think every single team in the AFC playoff picture enters
- 46:42Speaker 3: the playoffs and going this thing runs through us.
- 46:45Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Man, heart goes out to Danny Dimes, Daniel Jones,
- 46:50Speaker 1: bro like I when he's hitting the ground and you're
- 46:53Speaker 1: hearing that it's an achilles, Like, I felt so fucking
- 46:57Speaker 1: bad for him. And that's just where the thought goes
- 46:59Speaker 1: into my mind, where it's like admiration and playing honorably
- 47:04Speaker 1: does not eventually get you paid. Because he's out there
- 47:07Speaker 1: playing on a fractured fibula, like he's tough, He's got
- 47:10Speaker 1: this story. I personally like, as competitors, you just love
- 47:13Speaker 1: to see this quarterback. He's got something going on, but
- 47:16Speaker 1: he's trying to make it happen because the Colts have
- 47:19Speaker 1: a real shot this year. And then to go out
- 47:21Speaker 1: there and see it go down like that and he
- 47:23Speaker 1: ruptures his achilles, knowing that this's got it's a compensation,
- 47:27Speaker 1: like just knowing that all that played into it, and
- 47:29Speaker 1: you just see the emotion I am pounding the ground.
- 47:32Speaker 1: He's on a you know, basically a prove it contract
- 47:34Speaker 1: this year. He was proving it this year and to
- 47:37Speaker 1: go down like that with an achilles injury, you know
- 47:39Speaker 1: it's going to be part of the entire situation when
- 47:41Speaker 1: he gets paid next to.
- 47:44Speaker 2: A huge part of it, like tens of millions of dollars. Yeah,
- 47:48Speaker 2: especially in the quarterback room. The good thing, let's play
- 47:51Speaker 2: this whole thing out. The good thing for Danny Dimes
- 47:53Speaker 2: is they trade away their first round pick to acquire
- 47:56Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner.
- 47:57Speaker 1: Correct.
- 47:58Speaker 2: So by making that decision, you're saying, you're telling the
- 48:01Speaker 2: rest of the NFL, Okay, we are going for a
- 48:03Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year. That's that's what you're telling the
- 48:05Speaker 2: rest of us. But what you're also doing is you're
- 48:07Speaker 2: giving all the leverage to Daniel Jones and saying you've
- 48:12Speaker 2: proven enough to be our quarterback of the future. We
- 48:14Speaker 2: want you to be our guy. We want you to
- 48:15Speaker 2: be our guy so much that weird, we're gonna take
- 48:17Speaker 2: this first round pick we have, We're throwing out the window.
- 48:19Speaker 2: We don't have to worry about a quarterback at all
- 48:21Speaker 2: in the drafting more because you're our guy.
- 48:23Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get a defensive piece.
- 48:24Speaker 2: Yeah, now the situation happens, he's I still believe. I
- 48:28Speaker 2: think he's gonna be a cult next year. I think
- 48:29Speaker 2: he's gonna have one hundred million dollar contracts. Probably he
- 48:32Speaker 2: probably have a similar contract to Sam Donald. It's not
- 48:34Speaker 2: gonna be insane like you see like the mahomes lamar
- 48:37Speaker 2: As all those guys. But you're gonna get yourself. You know,
- 48:40Speaker 2: one hundred and ten, one hundred and twenty probably could
- 48:42Speaker 2: have been one to fifty. Stopped me. If you guys
- 48:44Speaker 2: think I'm wrong at all.
- 48:45Speaker 1: I don't know all the I don't know all of
- 48:47Speaker 1: the contractual stuff with like I'll say the top ten
- 48:50Speaker 1: to fifteen guys. I think, dude, some dads are making
- 48:52Speaker 1: like but bro, yeah, I don't you say Sam Donald.
- 48:55Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I don't know if it's gonna be
- 48:57Speaker 1: a Sam Donald. Like Sam Donald still went he went
- 49:00Speaker 1: like what fourteen and two last year or whatever the
- 49:03Speaker 1: numbers were, Like, had a tough playoff game, but he
- 49:05Speaker 1: still went off and got broke off because he played
- 49:07Speaker 1: really well and finished like statistically, he was one of
- 49:10Speaker 1: the better quarterbacks in the NFL. Daniel Jones was for
- 49:13Speaker 1: the first half of the season, had a couple shaky
- 49:15Speaker 1: last coupleys because he's playing on a fractured fibula, a
- 49:18Speaker 1: fractured leg, goes down with an achilles injury, which is
- 49:21Speaker 1: one of the worst injuries to have as a player.
- 49:24Speaker 1: Like I don't see him, I see them trying to
- 49:27Speaker 1: figure out a way to take care of him and
- 49:28Speaker 1: everything else. But make no mistake, they will be using
- 49:30Speaker 1: that against him. To no doubt, he will not even
- 49:32Speaker 1: come close to what he could have gotten paid.
- 49:34Speaker 2: As we all sit here as all washed up athletes,
- 49:37Speaker 2: I love your opinion on this. Obviously, there was a
- 49:39Speaker 2: time when you were playing. You have an injury and
- 49:42Speaker 2: it's not your hurt. You have an actual injury where
- 49:44Speaker 2: it's like this could long term hurt you, and you
- 49:47Speaker 2: put the helmet on, you decide to play. All those
- 49:50Speaker 2: times you did that, all of the times you did that, like,
- 49:53Speaker 2: did it ever? Do you think it paid off? Do
- 49:54Speaker 2: you think it's worth going out there being tough for
- 49:58Speaker 2: your team, doing all the things that were a brainwashed
- 50:00Speaker 2: as a kid, like toughness. You have to be tough
- 50:03Speaker 2: no matter what, all the things. Do you think it's
- 50:05Speaker 2: really worth that? Or the world we live in now
- 50:07Speaker 2: we have to understand how much of a business it
- 50:09Speaker 2: actually is. And maybe these old heads that were talking
- 50:11Speaker 2: to us when we first got in the league, they
- 50:12Speaker 2: were right all along.
- 50:15Speaker 5: It's a great question, and I sit here now my
- 50:18Speaker 5: answer is, of course it was worth it.
- 50:20Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like.
- 50:21Speaker 3: I think learning how to play through injury, and learning
- 50:23Speaker 3: how to play hurt and learning how to never feel great,
- 50:27Speaker 3: I think that's a learned skill. I think you have
- 50:29Speaker 3: to learn. I used to tell young guys all the time.
- 50:32Speaker 3: Before you're able to play with a sprained ankle, you
- 50:34Speaker 3: better be able to practice with a sprained ankle. By
- 50:36Speaker 3: the time you play with a shoulder that's feeling crappy
- 50:39Speaker 3: in the game, you better see what that what that
- 50:41Speaker 3: shoulder feels like on Wednesday, and figure out how to
- 50:43Speaker 3: get yourself moved and shaken and what break. There's an
- 50:46Speaker 3: art to playing for long periods of time. There's an
- 50:49Speaker 3: art to not missing games. People always say, oh, man,
- 50:52Speaker 3: you've been so lucky with injuries. Yes, you're lucky that
- 50:56Speaker 3: you don't get catastrophic injuries, right you break your leg,
- 50:59Speaker 3: tear your ac l, blow your achilles, shoulder like, there's
- 51:03Speaker 3: some there's some injuries that are just unavoidable and you
- 51:07Speaker 3: just can'n't care how tough you are, you just can't
- 51:09Speaker 3: play through them. But there's a lot of games missed
- 51:11Speaker 3: by guys where I would argue they can play through them.
- 51:16Speaker 3: The art of learning how to do that is very different.
- 51:19Speaker 3: Now I had the ability, and.
- 51:21Speaker 1: It's all very long time. It's all very gray, subjective, like, yeah,
- 51:24Speaker 1: you don't know and you don't know how this guy feels.
- 51:27Speaker 3: Yeah, if every time I didn't feel good, and if
- 51:30Speaker 3: every time I woke up not feeling my best, or
- 51:33Speaker 3: every time I put on my cleats and my foot
- 51:35Speaker 3: was sore and my ankle was sore and my head
- 51:37Speaker 3: felt a little groggy, or if every time that happened
- 51:40Speaker 3: I went to the trainer and got put into some
- 51:43Speaker 3: sort of rehab process, I would have played five years.
- 51:46Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
- 51:50Speaker 3: There's an element of luck. There's an element of preparation,
- 51:54Speaker 3: right what you do to your body. There, it's not
- 51:56Speaker 3: a coincidence that some guys do some guys don't get hurt.
- 51:59Speaker 3: I think there are some elements of it guys control.
- 52:02Speaker 3: I think there's some elements that are completely out of
- 52:04Speaker 3: your control. I do think there's a third element that
- 52:08Speaker 3: guys are scared to really talk about that. I think
- 52:13Speaker 3: you got to just learn how to play with shit,
- 52:15Speaker 3: and there's an art to it. If I told you
- 52:18Speaker 3: the amount of things I've had injected, not with pain killers,
- 52:21Speaker 3: but like we've all had tourtal, we've all had anti courtizone,
- 52:26Speaker 3: anti inflammator, Like we've all done it. At least I'll
- 52:30Speaker 3: raise my hand.
- 52:30Speaker 5: And say I've done.
- 52:33Speaker 2: Every single game I never had.
- 52:35Speaker 3: Now, I'll be clear, I've never had pain killers. I've
- 52:38Speaker 3: never played a game on pain killers. I'm not judging
- 52:40Speaker 3: people who have. I was in a different era early
- 52:43Speaker 3: in my career. Guys were still doing like DMSO and
- 52:46Speaker 3: it was a little bit different. That kind of went
- 52:48Speaker 3: away with the new CBA and all that. But like,
- 52:50Speaker 3: I never played a game on pain killers. I was
- 52:52Speaker 3: never given painkillers. After my couple surgeries. I never even
- 52:56Speaker 3: took them, Like I stayed away from pain killers. But
- 53:00Speaker 3: I've had corterzone shots in almost every joint in my body.
- 53:02Speaker 3: I've had back injections where on Fridays I couldn't stand up.
- 53:06Speaker 3: I'd have back injections and play on Sunday, Like that's
- 53:10Speaker 3: the reality of the game. And I wouldn't do it
- 53:14Speaker 3: any different if I had to go back. But I
- 53:16Speaker 3: also had the luxury of playing fourteen years and I
- 53:19Speaker 3: went ten years without missing a game. I was very
- 53:21Speaker 3: lucky in that sense. But I also played a lot
- 53:23Speaker 3: of games where I was not healthy. I played games
- 53:25Speaker 3: with broken elbows in a big ass brace, and I
- 53:28Speaker 3: played games with a broken like you just do what
- 53:30Speaker 3: you gotta do to play, and I don't regret any
- 53:33Speaker 3: of it.
- 53:33Speaker 1: Yeah, it is all very situational. Luck does come into
- 53:37Speaker 1: the equation a lot, like it's it's like I'm proud that,
- 53:41Speaker 1: Like I had a Grade two PCL that I had
- 53:43Speaker 1: torn and I got PCL's the worst and I was
- 53:46Speaker 1: back like I was, you know, I was absolutely everything
- 53:49Speaker 1: I possibly could to get back, and I was back
- 53:51Speaker 1: on the practice field like eight or nine days was
- 53:53Speaker 1: able to I missed one game. It was actually against Carolina.
- 53:55Speaker 1: When you guys came to town in like twenty sixteen.
- 53:57Speaker 2: Or something like greg Olson on the list, he was scared. Yeah,
- 54:00Speaker 2: oh yeah, buddy, I hear you know what to be
- 54:05Speaker 2: an honest coach, not this week.
- 54:09Speaker 1: And you know I was in a spot too where
- 54:10Speaker 1: I was on a what is it called when you
- 54:13Speaker 1: were not a restricted I was an exclusive rights free
- 54:17Speaker 1: agent that year. Since I had a practice squad year
- 54:19Speaker 1: and another credited season didn't count toward my free agency,
- 54:21Speaker 1: they had me on an exclusive rights free agency deal.
- 54:24Speaker 1: And then the next year I was going to be
- 54:26Speaker 1: a restricted free agent. And you're hopeful that they're going
- 54:30Speaker 1: to admire your willingness to fight and get back on
- 54:33Speaker 1: the field and hopefully it gets you on the back end.
- 54:36Speaker 1: But playing those the rest of the season on a
- 54:38Speaker 1: torn PCL, it's like there there's one play against New
- 54:41Speaker 1: York where we're on a win and in game and
- 54:44Speaker 1: Eli Manning hits put the old index fingers together, I
- 54:46Speaker 1: know what plays coming. They're doing a three flat screen.
- 54:49Speaker 1: I'm mugged up in the a gap. I tell Mason Foster, hey,
- 54:52Speaker 1: you run the blitz. I'll take the coverage in this assignment.
- 54:54Speaker 1: Whenever we identify where their block of protection. I see
- 54:57Speaker 1: ELI do this. I'm coming as a three player. I'm
- 55:00Speaker 1: gonna be the one that chases this three flat screen.
- 55:02Speaker 1: I couldn't break down good enough. I missed the tackle
- 55:05Speaker 1: damn win in the game. That's weighed on my mind
- 55:07Speaker 1: forever because I look back and like, because I'm playing
- 55:10Speaker 1: on the torn PCL, you're hoping it pays off for you.
- 55:13Speaker 1: They get you in an undrafted restricted rights for agent.
- 55:15Speaker 1: Like it doesn't. It didn't work out for me that way.
- 55:18Speaker 1: But then I think about when I was trying to
- 55:19Speaker 1: make the team on practice squad my rookie year, and
- 55:22Speaker 1: I have a torn hamstring and I'm just like, Okay,
- 55:24Speaker 1: Keenan Robinson has a torn pack, he's out for the year.
- 55:27Speaker 1: He's on IR. Jeremy Kimbro the guy in front of me,
- 55:29Speaker 1: he just tore his hamstring like fully.
- 55:32Speaker 2: Grade three off the bone. He's out.
- 55:35Speaker 1: It's my time to run with the twos. I had
- 55:37Speaker 1: caught a Grade two of my upper like right below
- 55:39Speaker 1: my ass and it was fucking painful. But if I
- 55:43Speaker 1: don't go out there and play, I never even play
- 55:46Speaker 1: in the NFL. So to me, it's like there is
- 55:49Speaker 1: this I guess, like skill or whatever you want to
- 55:52Speaker 1: call it. Then there's these unlucky situations where you think
- 55:54Speaker 1: back on it's like, damn, I shouldn't have played on
- 55:56Speaker 1: that torn PCL. But all of my entire mentality I'm
- 55:59Speaker 1: playing with injury. It's like I probably would have never
- 56:02Speaker 1: even been in that position anyway. Yeah, so it is
- 56:04Speaker 1: it's like, uh, what is it? Is this a phrase
- 56:06Speaker 1: where you used to catch twenty two? I never even understood.
- 56:08Speaker 1: Don't your career? It's like, I see what.
- 56:15Speaker 3: It made your career? Yes, and then others my biggest regret.
- 56:20Speaker 3: So I say all of this that I don't have regrets.
- 56:22Speaker 5: I guess I do have one. Two thousand and seven.
- 56:25Speaker 3: So I went from two thousand and seven to two
- 56:28Speaker 3: thousand and seventeen and I never missed a game. Twenty seventeen,
- 56:34Speaker 3: Week two, I break my foot at home, maybe against Dallas.
- 56:39Speaker 3: I don't remember who it was, but it was our
- 56:41Speaker 3: first home game. I broke my foot. I broke my
- 56:44Speaker 3: fifth metatarsal.
- 56:45Speaker 1: Yep.
- 56:45Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's a bit of an injury.
- 56:48Speaker 3: I have two scenarios. We we thought we had a
- 56:51Speaker 3: really good team and throughout we were winning. And so
- 56:55Speaker 3: there's two scenarios. You can go in and get a
- 56:56Speaker 3: screw put in and it's like a six to eight
- 56:59Speaker 3: week recovery, which I'm always like, oh, I'm gonna be
- 57:01Speaker 3: five right, like we all think.
- 57:04Speaker 5: We all play that game.
- 57:06Speaker 3: Or you can go in and you can get the
- 57:08Speaker 3: screw and a bone graph, and you're out for the
- 57:11Speaker 3: whole season. So in my mind, I'm like, well, that's
- 57:14Speaker 3: not Why would I ever you tell me six to
- 57:17Speaker 3: eight weeks.
- 57:18Speaker 5: I'm doing six to eight weeks. Why would I do
- 57:20Speaker 5: three months and miss.
- 57:20Speaker 1: The whole season.
- 57:21Speaker 3: Yeah, So I go, I get the bone graph, I
- 57:24Speaker 3: rehab like crazy, and I come back and we make
- 57:28Speaker 3: the playoffs. I wasn't particularly great movement wise, but I
- 57:32Speaker 3: was good enough to play the rest of the year
- 57:33Speaker 3: and finish the season. We lost in the playoffs, but
- 57:36Speaker 3: I was like it was worth coming back to finish
- 57:38Speaker 3: the year with the guys, Right, I go all off season,
- 57:41Speaker 3: no issues with my foot feeling better, better, better. First
- 57:45Speaker 3: game of two thousand and eighteen, I rebreak my foot,
- 57:50Speaker 3: same foot, same foot. I cracked so the pit the
- 57:53Speaker 3: screw held, I cracked the bone on top and bottom
- 57:57Speaker 3: but the bone was held together by this screw that
- 58:00Speaker 3: was put in a year ago.
- 58:02Speaker 5: So I missed the next like three games.
- 58:04Speaker 3: But they tell me, as long as the bone holds,
- 58:07Speaker 3: as long as once it breaks all the way through,
- 58:08Speaker 3: you're gonna have to get surgery. Anyway, you could try
- 58:10Speaker 3: to play through this. Well, we do everything in our
- 58:14Speaker 3: power to get the bone to heel, bone stimulators, you
- 58:16Speaker 3: name it. And I come back and through my rehab process,
- 58:21Speaker 3: I get planner.
- 58:21Speaker 5: Fashiet is.
- 58:23Speaker 3: I'm playing down in Tampa and my planner explodes. It's
- 58:28Speaker 3: like I stepped on a hand grenade. So I'm done now,
- 58:31Speaker 3: seasons lost. I go now have a second surgery on
- 58:34Speaker 3: that foot. Bone graph fix it. That foot never felt better.
- 58:40Speaker 3: I developed some other foots compensation stuff on the other leg.
- 58:44Speaker 3: Long story short. If I would have gotten the bone
- 58:47Speaker 3: graph initially and missed all of the twenty seventeen season
- 58:51Speaker 3: and just bag that, I think I played the entire
- 58:54Speaker 3: eighteen without missing time. I played the entire nineteen and
- 58:59Speaker 3: maybe I played longer. Maybe the last three years of
- 59:01Speaker 3: my career. I'm more productive. I'm better right, who knows.
- 59:05Speaker 5: But in the moment, there was no telling me to
- 59:10Speaker 5: do the longer surgery to like worry about myself and
- 59:14Speaker 5: not come make a playoff run like that never even
- 59:16Speaker 5: that never was even an option.
- 59:18Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, man, when they kind of put these things
- 59:20Speaker 2: in front of you. In twenty sixteen, we were playing
- 59:23Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts at the Colts and this is this
- 59:26Speaker 2: is the first year I made my first Pro Bowl,
- 59:28Speaker 2: and I was I think, we're like halfway through the
- 59:30Speaker 2: season and I'm kind of greg I'm on like a
- 59:32Speaker 2: little bit of a tear, like no sacks giving me
- 59:35Speaker 2: Jack Clonkin as well, like Jack had like maybe one
- 59:38Speaker 2: sack or like even no sacks as well. But we're
- 59:40Speaker 2: like in the eighth week and it's like they're starting now.
- 59:42Speaker 2: We whispers like we're turning around. Where we went from
- 59:45Speaker 2: three to thirteen, now we're going there. We end up
- 59:47Speaker 2: being nine and seven. It's like, oh fuck, like this
- 59:49Speaker 2: is a real possibility. My team is gonna be like,
- 59:51Speaker 2: you can make the Pro Bowl this year. You're playing
- 59:53Speaker 2: like that, So this is like all my mind. We're
- 59:55Speaker 2: playing the Colts. We slide the protection to the right,
- 59:57Speaker 2: so I go from being man on this guy they
- 59:59Speaker 2: have seven up and Marcus goes, hey, we're sliding all
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: the way right. So I go and I take over
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: the four I and I have him into Marco. Murray
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: cuts the edmin on the line of scrimmage into my
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: left leg, hyper extends my leg and so I hear
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: like a crack and I like lay there and I'm like, no,
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: is this what it's like to tear your a cl
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: And they come up. Doctor comes up, does the thing
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: and he goes, hey, we think you tore your a cl.
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: We think you're done for the year. We'll have to
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: do em Ara on it. I'm you know, I get
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: in the blue tent, we go in the locker and
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: I'm like this, there's no fucking way that this is
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: how it ends. I end up getting the MRI and
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: there's like what, I don't know what whatever bone, this
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: one is the big one. I have like a crack
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: down it and they're like, hey, you good news. Bad news.
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: Good news is this bone has a hairline fracture down it.
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: The bad oh no, that's the badness. The good news
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: is your ACL is your aco is actually intact.
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: It's fine.
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: Maybe to take a couple of weeks off. Let's get this.
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: Let's get this bone to heal. Up just fine, and
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: then we know we can go through this here, and
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no fucking way. We played the Bears
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: next week and you talked about never did pain pills
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: or anything like that. I never took pain pills during
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: a game. But from week like eight to like I
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: think we got into the wild card that every Monday
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: through Saturday, it was popping a couple Sundays. I felt
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: too uncomfortable to take anything like that because I wanted
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: to have my wits about me. But it was do
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: as much as you possibly can, and it ends up
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: working out that way where it's like, all right, made
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. But like that detalks after when the
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: season's over. I guys don't talk about that enough where
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: it's like you, yeah, you put yourself in that position.
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: I'm a I got four or five days where I'm
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: like legitimate withdrawals of like shaking, uncomfortable and it just
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: it sucks. But you you go back to it and
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: you're like, I'm so proud I did that, because if
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: there's a piece of you, like week twelve, when the
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: boys are like I'm feeling this way, like you know
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: you're gonna be like you know, I got like a
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: hairline fracture. I'm playing on a broke I'm playing on
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: a broken leg, like at.
- 1:01:55Speaker 5: The end of the year. By the end of the year,
- 1:01:56Speaker 5: it's a compound fracture.
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you're just yeah exactly, it's like, oh,
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: you you you rolled your ankle. That's cool. My leg's
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: broken and I'm in it's been broken for six seven weeks.
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: But yeah, you go ahead if you want to play,
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: it's fine.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of take that. You kind of just
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: take that risk. Man. Sometimes it works out. Sometimes it's again,
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: it's like Danny when I heard that he had the
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: like a fracture, he was playing on a fracture fibula.
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: The p ATSD in my brain is I had before
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: I had my broken fifth minute tarsal.
- 1:02:25Speaker 7: Greg.
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: It was at Nebraska and we were in this big
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: time linebacker competition with a few of us in the
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: same class. This is Levante David's first year as well.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: He's making splash plays. And I had a hairline on
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: my on my foot when I got X rays and
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: it was like, hey, you could miss the opening week
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: of the season. I was slated to be the starter.
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: So on my head, I'm like, you know, you can't
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: not be on the field or on the practice field
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: and let other guys get opportunity because somebody might when
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: it's close, because they could take it over. And so
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: I go out there in the next week of practice.
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: It was the Thursday kind of like a jog through.
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: It was just helmets before the first before the opening
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: game of the season, and it's just a guy jogs
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: and runs a stick route. I plant below my fifth
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: menataur soul. I have to get the pin put in it.
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: I'm out, I think seven weeks, come back for the
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: Texas game. But by the time I come back from
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: my broken foot with now a pin in it. Lavonte
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: David is Levante, the lavalante Dave is now that we've
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: seen in the league that's played forever. He comes out
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: first game, has thirteen tackles, blow somebody up over the middle.
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: I'm up there on a scooter watching from the press box,
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: just thinking, Yeah, this job ain't gonna be here when
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: I get back.
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: That the worst feeling.
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's Lavante was such a stud. You just
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: kind of you might have these arguments in your head
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: of you know, if coaches might be feeling a guy,
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: But hey, I know I'm playing better than this guy.
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: That was one where it's like Leavonte, the way he
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: slipped through blocks and everything else. Him being undersized, It
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: didn't matter the dude. The tape kind of spoke for itself,
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: and it's one you can't really just kind of you
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: know what, rolling situations? Am I going to get to
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: play some ball?
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: I didn't even know if you get hurt.
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: But the fifth meta tarsl sucks man with the pen
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: the worst.
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we're right end of my career. I
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: know we got to get out of here before we
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: got rock Tampa Bay lose the Saints. I looked at
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: that game and I was like, I'm not even gonna watch.
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: Just look down at the ship. I'm like, holy shit,
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: they the Saints one.
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: And so now like your Panthers are right there, they're tired,
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: they shot. You think they're gonna pull it off.
- 1:04:23Speaker 5: Against it.
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: They got two games, they got to two of their
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: last four against Tampa. They got two against Tampa Heart
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: a tough game against Seattle and against New Orleans this week.
- 1:04:32Speaker 5: So it's in there. It's in their hands.
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: Greg, you're the man, bro, thank you for appreciate you
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: guys for joining the boys. Uh, see you again next
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: week and I'll be watching ball all situations when I'm
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: gonna be texting me in to text you text me.
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: See you, brother.
- 1:04:45Speaker 5: I appreciate you.
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: I love that dude. What a fucking guy. Just just
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: a good thirty minutes for all the viewers out there
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: listening who want a football recap, just hearing me Will
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: and Greg talk about how tough we were at one
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: point in our lives. Are you hurt or are you injured?
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: And we didn't get to talk about this dude, But
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: I feel like the true path of an athlete, like
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: being a true athlete, is the ability to compensate, Like
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: you can be fast, strong, quick, all those things, but
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: it's when these like issues happened in the foot and body,
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: like Greg brought it up, like when he had that
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: fifth minute to tars for the second time he had
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: other compensation issues. Great athletes have the ability to like
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: compensate when other things aren't working the way they're supposed
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: to do it. So it's just I.
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: Appreciate that shout out, man, Yeah, I mean back in
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: my second I don't even know how many injuries. How
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: many times I've been under the under the scope.
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: Did you see, Jordan, you had five surgeries in college?
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: Yeah, so my freshman, my red shirt year, my right laborm.
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: That's when I called the twelve anchors. I broke my foot.
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: I had a paranial ten and removed. I had to
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: get a paranial tenant removed in my left ankle. So
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: both feet had been under the microscope. Uh pro day.
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: Right after the pro day, I had to fly to
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: Europe and I had a sports arn. You tore my
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: PCL that never got fixed, never had to fix that.
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: I want to say, that's one that you can kind
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: of avoid. Like Troy palmlu I believe playing on the
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: torn PCL, and you know, he was a He's an
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: absolute monster. But the torn PCL, I think that's I
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: believe that's it. Oh yeah. And then Liz Frank Liz
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: frankfore I came to Tennessee. That was fucking brutal.
- 1:06:24Speaker 2: The only surgeries I've had an ACL and a ACL reconstruction. Yeah,
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: those are the only two. What they were the death
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: of me. But sometimes you just got a bunch of
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: body shots. I think a head shot, you know what,
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: I'm saying, but I had, dude, I got this thumb.
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: I told you about this, right. We went to go
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: see the doctor. Wing cut her thumb. Yeah, so Wing
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: cuts her thumb and the doctor's like, yeah, it's gonna
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: be fine. It's not down to the tenants. But what
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: is that? And I'm like, oh, this old, this old
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: fishhook thing right here is like, buddy, you got to
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: get that fixed. Like that's gonna be an issue in
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: your in your wrist, of enture elbow and shoulder, like
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: it's gonna be a big problem. So I'll get him
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: to get a fixed right after the season, so I'll
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: have my third surgery, fourth after my tonsils. But that's
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: really it.
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: You're gonna have surgery on that.
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: When you say after the season, like you're talking.
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: About after this football season that you.
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: And I are we don't play anymore, brother, a piece
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: of you that.
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: Still kind of feels not I don't feel like we're playing,
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: but like my brain are. Our calendar is still revolves
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: exactly the way.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, calendar is still always football.
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: It's like I tell Taylor all the time, like, hey,
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: when the fall is over, She's like, sweetie, we're in
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: we're in wintertime. I was like, this is the fall,
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: this is football season. So when the season's over then
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: I can go do X Y and Z. Greg's talking
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: about being the Bahamas. I'm thinking myself, Oh my god,
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: that sounds nice.
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to go with his wife. Happy birthday,
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: missus Olsen.
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: I see, I see that what we have highlight up here?
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: Do we do we want to talk about that?
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: I didn't really watch. I was kind of keeping up
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: with the Titans Browns game. I thought, should hear? What
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: do you have? Almost four hundred yards passing, three touchdowns
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns? Yea, yeah, cam Ward had an unbelievable incomplete
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: pass yes motion over the top five A big one
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: though that we haven't touched on Packers beating the Bears.
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: Yeah, and like we've done so many takes every single
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: week on ESPN, Buddy called that one, didn't we Yeah?
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: Right now the Bears are sitting in the seventh seed.
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: They went from the one seed to the seventh seed
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: in a matter of three and a half hours. Yeah,
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: and that's just crazy.
- 1:08:20Speaker 8: Do you guys think that game gives? Like people are
- 1:08:24Speaker 8: asking are the Bears frauds?
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: Now?
- 1:08:26Speaker 8: I feel like that game kind of the Bears proved.
- 1:08:29Speaker 8: Yeah they lost, but they prove that they're not frauds,
- 1:08:31Speaker 8: like they can hang with.
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: The Bears are not frauds.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: I agree with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was just
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: gonna say the Bears are not frauds whatsoever. Like very again,
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: takeaways on defense, Caleb Williams has done a great job
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, wins some games. Yes, he missed
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: a big throw yesterday and everybody's gonna break that play
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: down and everything else. Bears have had an awesome season,
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: but they are like statistically, you know, bottom toward the
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: bottom of the list in the majority of categories. Defensively,
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: Caleb Williams no matter that, Like the dude is electric,
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: he spins a football, dude has a rocket of an arm.
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: But also it's statistically one of the worst, one of
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: the least accurate quarterbacks. Yeah, he is the worst. I know, JA,
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: I know JJ McCarthy. But again, when you're talking about inaccuracies,
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is also there. Dude's been I saw stat
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: yesterday during that game, watching that Packers Bears game. He's had.
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: At this point of the game, they brought up the
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: graphic thirty three unblocked pressures, sacked zero times.
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: His ability to stay alis and his arm, his arm
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: is unbelievable, unbelievable.
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: Sometimes he's just off target. But they've had a great year.
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: It's just when you're watching it all unfold and you
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: see the NFC as as a whole, it's like the
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: NFC West with the Niners, Rams and Seattle then Packers.
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: They are playing some really good football that they just
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: have a really good defense.
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: If you look at the Bears from last year to
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: this year, that team has gone immensely better under Ben Johnson.
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: Yeah they are. They are a there, very good football team.
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: So are the Bears frauds? No, in a sense that
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: they're that I think they're a good ball club.
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: The Bears are frauds if you thought that they were
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: an elite team in the NFC, you.
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: Yeah, they're frauds. If you think if you say, hey,
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: the Bears are contenders, I'm saying, well, then know the
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: Bears are frauds.
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. If you had them in your brain like
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: this is a contender football team and you're so pissed
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: about that game yesterday that you're just you're upset with
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: the quarterback. You're upset with that coach, you're upset with
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: all things Chicago, Like that's more on you. Yeah, because
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: I think that they've done a great job winning some
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: of these tight games where probably they could have had
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: no business winning those games.
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: No business. And dude, I mean the intangibles that Caleb
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: william has are incredible, Like there's just things you cannot
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: teach to just jump off the tape when you're watching
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: him and he's like, like you said, thirty three unblocked pressure,
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: zero sacks. Yeah, that is a stat that I would
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: I would print out and frame if I'm Caleb Williams.
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: He is.
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's the most elusive quarterback in the NFL,
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: Like no one can really get to him and his
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: ability he does. He's been ready, like you know someone,
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: and he's been inaccurate. But he's getting better and better.
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: And I think next year we're going to Next year
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: they get they tune up a couple of things. We'll
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: see how free agency in the draft goes. But we
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: can go into next year they can Oh, hey, the
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: Bears are actual contenders now if Cab Williams makes this.
- 1:11:17Speaker 8: Next step talking about his elusivity, I saw a stat watching.
- 1:11:21Speaker 7: The games, so bad going.
- 1:11:24Speaker 8: Caleb Williams has like five or six plays over twenty
- 1:11:27Speaker 8: miles an hour running. The rest of the NFL I
- 1:11:30Speaker 8: think has like four.
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: Yeah, he's electric to watch. I enjoy watching him. It's
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: just again, when you were talking about the Division Packers Bears,
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: Jordan Love is unbelievable. That defense is unbelievable. He got
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, Watson gets going in their wide receiver group,
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: like they're going to be a tough football team.
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: The farther we get into the season and we've seen
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: this all, this kind of thing's happening with the Packers
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: and the conversation we just have with Greg, like the
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: Packers are built perfectly for the playoffs. Yeah, they're built perfectly.
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: Now they live on the end of the world of
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: the NFC when it's like, brother, I think we walk
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: into all these games in the playoffs and their spreads
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: are like one and a half, two and a half,
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: Like it's gonna be it's gonna be pick them's all
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: the way through. Like, I am so excited to watch
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: these playoffs coming up. But the Packers do what they
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: built the little resume their ability to run the ball.
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: Josh Jaksa had what eighty eight yards yesterday, cracked off
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: a couple of fifteen ers here and there, but like physical,
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: get after the down. The downside to them is their
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: offensive line, but they have weapons on the perimeter. Their
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: defense is high flying the go. Everwhere they got Rashad
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: Gary and Rashan Gary Sorry, and Michael Parsons both guys,
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: blue chip, five star guys coming out of high school.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: Obviously we're both first round draft picks. Like they are
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: built for the playoffs. Bilt, I had to piss so
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: bad close us out.
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: Yeah, do your thing. I was just gonna say, we're
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: sitting in a nice pocket for some of the things
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: we've talked about. We were on ESPN last week, Sam
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: Bears are gonna make the playoffs, sneaky Jacksonville Jaguars bits
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: day and it says said since September.
- 1:13:02Speaker 5: Not so much for college though.
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: You remember hip was it Penn State?
- 1:13:08Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: Yeah, still I think I had, like, uh, who'd I have?
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: Penn State? Maybe Texas? Clemson? Who knows my college football?
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: No one gives a ship about college football boys, Not
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: right here, not in this segment. Not now. I'm talking
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: about some of my old takes right now, Chiefs ain't
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: making the playoffs, Broncos. I was talking in September like
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: later in September eight. Patriot's gonna upset the Bills. Now
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: Patriot's gonna win the division. We got that one sitting. Yeah,
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: the sneaky Jacksonville Jaguars once again sending a good pocket. Oh,
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: the Eagles are gonna get figured out. But uh, I
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: am excited. The NFL playoffs are gonna be electric. Speaking
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: of playoffs, the college football playoff, the rankings, the tournament
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: is set. We're gonna get into that with all of
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: our college football talk coming. If you're watching on YouTube,
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: that will drop. That'll be a separate episode show dropped.
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: If you're listening to us on audio right now, you
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: will hear an ad break and then we will get
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: into our college football talk. Thank you guys for tuning in.
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- 1:14:32Speaker 1: little bit. Welcome back to busting with the boys. We
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: are now doing the college football recap. Gentlemen. Here, we
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: are sitting here on the bus Monday morning after selection Sunday.
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: The college football Playoff its lined out, the tournament is
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: set in stone. There's chaos everywhere. I'm sure there's a
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: lot of things we can talk about. Conference championships, the
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: whole Alabama in situation, Miami in situation, Notre Dame out situation.
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: There is a lot to break down. G G five teams.
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: Of the two two very.
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: Worthy teams that one is dogs by seventeen and a half,
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: the other one's dog by twenty one and a half.
- 1:15:09Speaker 2: Definitely deserving of being in the playoffs. You give them
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: a rind of a plus. Shout out the g vitulations
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: to JMU and two Lane.
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: But a lot of conversations to talk about. Where do
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: we want to get started. We got the boys on
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: the bus JP, Jack, Garrett Klump, Sherman Mitch All college
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: football siccos All, I'm sure have opinions on this weekend.
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: We need to break it down right here.
- 1:15:31Speaker 2: Let's whip through this these conference championships real quick. Do
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: you want to start with the one we were at.
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, getting to do the all.
- 1:15:40Speaker 2: Cast, but you did, do you mind go ahead? This
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: was one of the most fun things that I have
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: ever been able to do with you. It was it
- 1:15:52Speaker 2: was just awesome. Like g Jack, Clump, Like we flew
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: in the way we flew in on a private jet
- 1:15:59Speaker 2: and then this bus comes in and picks us up
- 1:16:01Speaker 2: and these three dudes shared one room together. We are
- 1:16:04Speaker 2: such a backwards business, it's insane. But like you guys,
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: the three of you, I mean, we'll get in everything,
- 1:16:11Speaker 2: but you guys were so extremely helpful the entire time,
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: help them with the waters anything any Hey, you want
- 1:16:16Speaker 2: my mind whole miss every break, you guys are coming up
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: to us helping us out. Clump, you yelling at the
- 1:16:20Speaker 2: bus driver to stop, only to find out that he
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: was actually taking us to the right spot. The entire time.
- 1:16:26Speaker 2: We'll get into all that, but like, dude, you the
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: three of you, the three of you, the energy, everything,
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: like it's so incredibly helpful in these spots. Because I'll
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: speak for myself, but like you're living in this world
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: of nerves and you're kind of always playing like how
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: this thing's gonna go and you're playing things in your hand.
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: You guys kept it like, kept it fun, like grabbing
- 1:16:45Speaker 2: the coffees, like being as helpful as possible. It was
- 1:16:48Speaker 2: massive cold coffee. And then getting getting the call from
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: Pat McAfee in ESPN to say, hey, we want you guys,
- 1:16:56Speaker 2: you two dumb idiots, We want you, along with the
- 1:16:59Speaker 2: well spoken Osh Peyton Harry Douglas, to go and call
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: this this all cast An SEC Championship, not on ESPN
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: Plus or ESPN two, but the actual ESPN where every
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: swinging dick in the world who has basic cable at
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: least can thumb through their channels and it'll pop up
- 1:17:14Speaker 2: where you will see our faces.
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: Dude.
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: It was awesome.
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: Yeah, it truly was incredible. It's it's surreal. It's like
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: I had put up a post like I wish I
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: could say this was a dream come true, but I'll
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: be honest, Like when we started busting with the boys
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: and everything else, like doing something like this has just
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: never even been a thought in my brain right, And
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: getting to do it and getting text for my brothers
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: and dad and family members and people in my close
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: circle and just Wyat, my youngest brother just being like like,
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: what the fuck you're You're going to be doing it
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: all cast on ESPN. That's insane, insane. Yeah, it's it, dude.
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: It is surreal, man, and we're on the sideline. It's me, you,
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: Josh Paid, Harry Douglas getting to sit there and shop
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: it up with guys throughout the throughout the game, Sean, Alexander, Brandon, Spikes, Quavo,
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: Jalen Walker. Just being in that being in that stadium
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: for Championship Saturday, Bama versus Georgia, it's just surreal. And
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: it's like, I never want to I never want us
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: to take these moments for granted, because we are not
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: doing we are not even in these moments without the
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: support of everybody that tunes in, everybody that's watched and
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: followed from day one. The support and love was awesome
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: after like getting to your phone and seeing all the messages,
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: seeing all the mentions on social media. But we are
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: not doing that unless we have the support of everybody
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: out there. The Tier One's absolutely everybody that's helped hype
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: us up along the way, and we've like stumbled forward
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: and ended up on ESPN doing an all cast for
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: the sec championship. Yeah, and it's just really cool. We're
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: not here, Like, we're not here without you guys, grinding
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: every week without all the fans leaving comments all the time.
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: Just how we've been propped up to be on Get
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: Up this year and do the all cast and just
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: everything we've gotten to do crossing paths with Josh pat
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: this year has been unbelievable.
- 1:18:59Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a crazy perfect alignment.
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's dude, I'm thankful. It's like gratitude. I
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: was very nervous. The Jackie got the video of me
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: before the game where I'm like walking, I'm like talking
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: out loud. Like my prep this week has felt like
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to play in a game. My feeling
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: at the hotel when we're having our dinner that was
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: super important on Friday, and I'm kind of thinking, man,
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: I want to get to my room. I want to
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: be able to think about these things before we do
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: Josh Bate's live show and then get back and be like, Okay,
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: I want to put on some more prep so I
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: can set myself up for tomorrow morning when we're sitting
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: down there having coffee and talking shop. Some of the
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: things going on my head. I got the paper sitting
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: right there trying to still study. I have no clue
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: how it's gonna go. And I had those that excitement
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: and those nerves kind of mixed together at the same
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: time going onto that field then having the little botch
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: dry run there that it was unbelievable. All the fans
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: we got to meet there, like all the dogs, barking,
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: guys like pull out my phone and take videos and
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: they're all performing for the video, taking selfies with everybody.
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: It was unbelieve Man, Dude walking.
- 1:20:01Speaker 2: On the field in Atlanta at the SEC Championship and
- 1:20:04Speaker 2: liked equipment staff is there, Coaches are starting to walk
- 1:20:07Speaker 2: through and people just like coming up to us being
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: like yo, I love your shit, like and you're just like, oh,
- 1:20:11Speaker 2: for real, like that that tied at number seven, lucky
- 1:20:14Speaker 2: for uh for Georgia. He's like warming up, like we're
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: kind of standing there that hasn't started, Like this is
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: like the warmst before they go back in and come
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: back out. And he takes a moment out of his
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: warm up as I'm like turning a corner and he's like, bro,
- 1:20:27Speaker 2: love watching your show, and I'm just like it's insane
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: that people it's always mind blowing that people watch.
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: And he had a big catch on that pump screen.
- 1:20:35Speaker 2: Yeah, but and yeah, you were getting all hyped about
- 1:20:38Speaker 2: that screaming in the microphone. Dude, it was amazing, It
- 1:20:43Speaker 2: was It was so funny. After hearing Will's voice, I'm thinking,
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: this motherfucker really was just screaming the whole time. And
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: I during the game too. I didn't realize that, Like,
- 1:20:52Speaker 2: I'm kind of I'm talking the way I am right
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: now and Will is we are the big one here.
- 1:20:57Speaker 2: It's second and seven, and I'm thinking, can I had
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: never crossed my brain that that that was in until
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: Josh brought it up on the flight. Oh, this dude
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: really was screaming the whole time, which is just.
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: Like Charles texting me laughing. She's like, Taylor sounded completely
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: normal and you're just yelling at the a gape.
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: How weird is that when you're uh, when you're like
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: talking to a game, you can hear the crowd getting
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: wound up, and you obviously feel like, oh, I gotta
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: scream into this microphone, when really that's what the microphone
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: is for your voice.
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: It's like a couple of things one. It's very loud
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: in those years.
- 1:21:32Speaker 2: Yes, oh it's.
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: Very like you can't hear anything. You can feel the
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: crowd and you can hear all the noise coming in
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: from everybody's microphone, so you feel like you've got to
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: be a little bit louder. But also just being immersed
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: in the game and like talking to the games, like
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, I was like, I felt like just
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: a linebacker trying to call that football. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: somebody makes a pop or a big hit or makes
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: a play when Bray Hubbard made a play on that
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: first series, just getting to say that my favorite terms
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: like pissing vinegar, a gap, blood flown below the pill.
- 1:21:58Speaker 2: We start talking about the team's porn, Like start talking
- 1:22:00Speaker 2: about the all white team, like that kid you know
- 1:22:02Speaker 2: when he gets drafted. We know a team he's going
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: on will come off, and we're kind of smiling, giggling
- 1:22:06Speaker 2: ourselves and all like yeah a tier ones are laughing
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: at an inside joke.
- 1:22:09Speaker 8: When you said the special team's porn part like you
- 1:22:13Speaker 8: like died off at the point, because you know if
- 1:22:15Speaker 8: you were.
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: And in my head before I said special teams poor it,
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: I'm thinking, do I say porn. Yeah, on this broadcast.
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: You just say, hey, what just happened on that play
- 1:22:23Speaker 2: needs to be age verified if you're going on a
- 1:22:25Speaker 2: website like that is. Dude, it was awesome, It really was,
- 1:22:30Speaker 2: And I'm like excited, But there's a piece of me
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: that you know, when you do something one time, it's
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: like the next time you do it, like that, all
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: the things that kind of caught you off guard, like
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: oh shit, Like I know I knew walking into it
- 1:22:40Speaker 2: that there's four of us talking about a football game
- 1:22:42Speaker 2: that all have football knowledge, Like the lift is not
- 1:22:44Speaker 2: as big as you think it's going to be. So
- 1:22:47Speaker 2: like it's not like one guy's calling the game and
- 1:22:49Speaker 2: you're giving all the color on it, like Pete's calling
- 1:22:52Speaker 2: the game. But also all four of us are going
- 1:22:54Speaker 2: to talk about what we've seen, so you're talking like
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: not as much after every single play. So I wasn't nervous.
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: I was more excited, like ma'am, I like it's like
- 1:23:03Speaker 2: high school football excited. And we go to do the
- 1:23:06Speaker 2: dry run and Caitlin's in our ears. She's like, Hey,
- 1:23:09Speaker 2: what's gonna happen is is we're gonna go We're gonna
- 1:23:11Speaker 2: do the dry run and then a few minutes later
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: we're gonna start the broadcast. But let's just make everybod
- 1:23:14Speaker 2: feel comfortable. We're gonna gonna run you through what we're
- 1:23:17Speaker 2: gonna play on the screen. You can do that, and
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: so for me going.
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: For more context too for everybody watching and listening. The
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: dry run, we were doing it ten minutes before we
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: went live. Yeah, ten we had the monitors out there.
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: We're gonna do a practice run. It's gonna be like
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: we're going to talking about our key players. We're gonna
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: run all the monitor. You guys talked through your twenty
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: five seconds.
- 1:23:33Speaker 2: Each, so we uh so, first off was like Harry
- 1:23:36Speaker 2: doug let's talk about zachar Yah Branch, which played out
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: perfectly because he really was a massive piece of George's
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: game plan. And then Josh Pak goes on Tim Keenan.
- 1:23:43Speaker 2: Then my whole thing was about the offensive lines and
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: the different type of offense that they're going to run. And
- 1:23:47Speaker 2: then Will, but Will went before me, so flip that Will,
- 1:23:50Speaker 2: we're going to talk about Gunastoka, and then I was
- 1:23:52Speaker 2: the last one to go about the two offensive lines
- 1:23:54Speaker 2: and how they're gonna win the game. Josh goes smacks
- 1:23:58Speaker 2: the shit out of it, like true Josh paid for
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: my I've never heard that man say or stutter over
- 1:24:03Speaker 2: and he's he's a true pro, Harry Douglas. He's in
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: his RG three bag doing the fun stuff. Then Will
- 1:24:09Speaker 2: starts to go and I'm like, I'm so excited.
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: I'm like, Gunner Stockton is the most important player in
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: this game. And I talk about this is a guy
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: that's been in the Heisman conversation all season long. He
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: can beat you with his arms, he can beat you
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: with his legs, and you look at what Alabama did
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: to him last time. And I stopped and I paused,
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: and I stared. I tried finding the words. Too many
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: words were coming through my head. I couldn't get it together.
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: I couldn't figure it out. And I just had this
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: long pause to probably last it felt like an hour,
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: but it was about four seconds. And then I just
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: look up to the crowd and I just go practice run,
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: practice run.
- 1:24:40Speaker 2: And at that moment, right there, dude, and then Taylor
- 1:24:43Speaker 2: shitting myself. All three guys like after you went, Josh
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: just started to like go into the whole thing, and
- 1:24:50Speaker 2: Kaitling gets over, goes Hey Taylor hasn't done his thing yet.
- 1:24:52Speaker 2: He's like, and then they's like running back. So after
- 1:24:55Speaker 2: you have your thing, I know, like it's fun to
- 1:24:58Speaker 2: like laugh at you or me when we like a
- 1:25:00Speaker 2: brain fart, but like when you have the brain fart,
- 1:25:02Speaker 2: my brain's like your.
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: Next buddy, And she's like, Josh, you got to get
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: back to Taylor and I like break down.
- 1:25:07Speaker 2: Oh it was our practice run.
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: There's no other opportunities after that, Like we didn't go
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: back there, let's start from the top, none of that.
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: So we're just kind of sitting there, sitting in it.
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: We're gonna be straight, We're gonna be good. Fortunately it
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: worked out because I was I was like kind of
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: sitting there. I was like, man, I'm sure people like this.
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: We're gonna be able to hit this is Brad. Is
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: it gonna happen again? I'm thinking, is my brain gonna
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: happen again? Buddy, you got this. She's own the moment. YadA,
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: YadA YadA. Fortunately it all worked. Dude.
- 1:25:29Speaker 2: You crushed it at the beginning of it, and then
- 1:25:32Speaker 2: I think it, Like my personal feelings about it was
- 1:25:35Speaker 2: like it took like the first half of the first
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: quarter for us all to kind of settle in. I
- 1:25:39Speaker 2: think after every play, all three of us, Oh, you,
- 1:25:42Speaker 2: Me and Harry were all kind of trying to find
- 1:25:44Speaker 2: a place to say something like we're like, you know,
- 1:25:47Speaker 2: trying to take the show on as if we're doing ourselves.
- 1:25:49Speaker 2: And then, you know, right after the first quarter, and
- 1:25:52Speaker 2: I thought it was very smooth sailing from then on,
- 1:25:54Speaker 2: especially in the second half. Yeah, I felt like we
- 1:25:56Speaker 2: all kind of got into a lane where it's like,
- 1:25:58Speaker 2: you see something happening, we kind of feel each other's
- 1:26:00Speaker 2: bi lingus that There's a couple of times I'd tap you,
- 1:26:02Speaker 2: I'd be like kind of like, hey, I'm gonna I
- 1:26:04Speaker 2: have something to say. So Josh were finishing, I would
- 1:26:06Speaker 2: go Harry and I would do the same thing.
- 1:26:07Speaker 6: It was.
- 1:26:08Speaker 2: It was sick, dude. And even when the game kind
- 1:26:10Speaker 2: of was out of reach, and at halftime, Harry and
- 1:26:14Speaker 2: a couple of pop like professionals were like, we gotta
- 1:26:16Speaker 2: really hope that Alabama scores otherwise this is gonna be
- 1:26:19Speaker 2: is gonna be tough to go through, Like we got
- 1:26:21Speaker 2: to that like last you know, four or five minutes
- 1:26:23Speaker 2: of the game, and to be honest, like Podcast Mo
- 1:26:25Speaker 2: kind of just hitd over for us, and I felt
- 1:26:27Speaker 2: like that was like the most comfortably war with sitting
- 1:26:28Speaker 2: in there. Let's have fun about it.
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: You won a great game just for the view viewers,
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: people tuning in. We got a close game in the
- 1:26:36Speaker 1: SEC Championship. But yeah, the first quarter. I felt solid
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: in the first core because it's just three and out,
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: so there's big plays happening defensively, do I talk about
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: the olda gap, talk about old Bray Hubbard, Uh, c
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: J Allen the linebacker? Where else? I remember when I
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: was hyping up CJ Allen and was and it wasn't
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: even CJ Allen. Is my apologies? Actually hand up, that
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: was not CJ Allen. That was so and so number zero.
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: That might happen a few times.
- 1:26:58Speaker 2: This proadcasting really good, But dude, I mean you get
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: on the bus after Clump's yelling at the driver again
- 1:27:06Speaker 2: and we're sitting there like I'm going, we can.
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: Get into the driver stuff. Yeah, we could do it.
- 1:27:11Speaker 1: Hit all the college football stuff. We can save the
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: driver the lure with Clump.
- 1:27:14Speaker 2: For the true But we're sitting there after the broadcast
- 1:27:19Speaker 2: and you go through, obviously as all of us do
- 1:27:21Speaker 2: after our game and you kind of like you hit
- 1:27:23Speaker 2: your mentions, see what's going on, And it seemed like
- 1:27:25Speaker 2: for the most part, other than a couple of one
- 1:27:28Speaker 2: or two's, it's like overwhelmingly positive reviews, and it's just like, man,
- 1:27:33Speaker 2: it felt good during you had fun doing and then
- 1:27:36Speaker 2: the person who it's four seem receptive to it, like
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: couldn't have asked for a better situation, did you guys?
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: How'd you guys enjoy I guess we can. We can
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: save that part too for the I know, we got
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: a college.
- 1:27:48Speaker 2: Football we got a college football break, and we got.
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: To college before we do.
- 1:27:51Speaker 6: I this isn't like new news for us, but every
- 1:27:54Speaker 6: place we go, the strength staff and like the equipment
- 1:27:57Speaker 6: staff specifically always shows out so big for the boys.
- 1:28:00Speaker 9: Argia, guys, let us throw the ball around for the game.
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: I was kind of nervous asking about a ball too.
- 1:28:04Speaker 6: I know, and they you know, they're always like nahn,
- 1:28:06Speaker 6: but they were. They were very gracious.
- 1:28:07Speaker 9: They let us throw.
- 1:28:08Speaker 6: They were cool after the game, wells dapping up all
- 1:28:10Speaker 6: of them. I'm I just had an idea we can
- 1:28:13Speaker 6: kind of linger on it, think about it, but maybe
- 1:28:15Speaker 6: for next season through either the spring fall or the
- 1:28:18Speaker 6: whole year. I think we need to dedicate an award
- 1:28:21Speaker 6: to the best best staff in terms of just for
- 1:28:24Speaker 6: the vipes, Yeah, for the equipment staff. Maybe like get
- 1:28:28Speaker 6: a T shirt made with them specifically for them because
- 1:28:31Speaker 6: they're listening.
- 1:28:31Speaker 9: There's guys that they're listening. And it'd be a fun
- 1:28:34Speaker 9: thing where each school we go to meet with the
- 1:28:36Speaker 9: equipment staff and they show out.
- 1:28:38Speaker 6: Not saying they need to roll out right carpets, but
- 1:28:40Speaker 6: it'd be something cool for these guys who clearly are
- 1:28:42Speaker 6: fan base to kind of like have something to throw the.
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: Most Yeah, the most underappreciated group, giving them doing something
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: that props.
- 1:28:50Speaker 2: But bro truly the heart and soul of every single team.
- 1:28:53Speaker 2: Like these guys. Every single day they're picking up dirty laundry,
- 1:28:57Speaker 2: sway shit, cleaning it off and making sure everyone's lost
- 1:29:00Speaker 2: is ready the next day. They're the first ones in
- 1:29:02Speaker 2: the building when they go for a game, to the
- 1:29:03Speaker 2: last ones to come out. They're usually driving back. Now
- 1:29:06Speaker 2: all of them are going on the plane with the
- 1:29:07Speaker 2: team and they just fucking love it. Like Georgia, Alabama
- 1:29:11Speaker 2: equipment Staff's guarantee they will die for their team, Indiana,
- 1:29:14Speaker 2: Ohio State and down all through these conference championships. They
- 1:29:18Speaker 2: are every moment of the day talking about what could
- 1:29:21Speaker 2: happen and that, and they have their own little groups
- 1:29:23Speaker 2: they go out together, have their softball games and all
- 1:29:25Speaker 2: that stuff like it is the heart and soul of
- 1:29:27Speaker 2: every single team, every single team.
- 1:29:29Speaker 6: And Georgia players were iced out the equipment staff.
- 1:29:34Speaker 2: Yeah, one kid, one kid doing the broadcast, they score,
- 1:29:36Speaker 2: doesn't dap me up by I guys got dapped up
- 1:29:38Speaker 2: by an EQ got ball boy over here. We're feeling
- 1:29:41Speaker 2: good about.
- 1:29:41Speaker 1: It again before we dive into college football. Just you, guys, don't.
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: On the broadcast, they showed the the New Year's Eve six,
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: the New Year's Eve six, the pick six Nebraska Georgia.
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: So after the game, when the competiti is about to
- 1:29:55Speaker 1: come up, they're about to do the ceremony, Coach Bobo
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: the OC comes up to me. He goes, will I'm
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: I'm coach Boba on the OC with Georgia. He put
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: both of his hands on my shoulders and he goes,
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: do you remember your interception in the Capitol Wombo Bowl?
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: And I go, brother, I was just getting to talk
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: about it on the broadcast. Yes, I remember that that
- 1:30:16Speaker 1: interception he breaks down.
- 1:30:17Speaker 2: That whole fuck him yeah, dude. In this situation number three,
- 1:30:21Speaker 2: I was like, here's your problem.
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: It was one hundred percent on the uh the x
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: crack screen for the running back, and he goes, yeah,
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: but we got you on the counter with old Gurley
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: there in the second half. I say, yeah, yeah he did.
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: That's off to you, but I thought that was so
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: sick they coach Bobo. I was like, oh, man, you
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: were on that staff back then, dude.
- 1:30:36Speaker 2: Just a little side note that at halftime, some younger kid,
- 1:30:40Speaker 2: probably you know, thirteen, fourteen fifteen, walks up to me
- 1:30:44Speaker 2: kind of nervous and I'm like, yo, what's up, dude,
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: how you doing? And he's like, hey, I'm a I
- 1:30:48Speaker 2: don't know if it's Marty or what his first name was,
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: but he's like, I'm a coach Smart's son. I was like,
- 1:30:53Speaker 2: Kirby Smart and he's like yes, He's like, I love
- 1:30:56Speaker 2: your guys show. I love watching every single look on
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: my bro, thank you.
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: We gotta get Kirby on. If we can't get Kirby,
- 1:31:01Speaker 1: we gotta get him on.
- 1:31:02Speaker 2: We gotta get a son on.
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get his son on. Yeh, Kirby devil.
- 1:31:05Speaker 2: That's what bustle the Boy should turn into. Don't get
- 1:31:07Speaker 2: the coaches on, get the coach's kids on.
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: Yeah, coach Smart's kid, Yeah, Kiffin's kid next. Yeah.
- 1:31:12Speaker 2: But the game, the game itself obviously Georgia. Massive blow
- 1:31:16Speaker 2: up by Georgia. That I mean, that was that was
- 1:31:17Speaker 2: a great game. You kind of walk into that game
- 1:31:19Speaker 2: and Georgia was favored, but you start to read into
- 1:31:22Speaker 2: all the things about how Kirby Smart's record versus top
- 1:31:25Speaker 2: ten teams is like amazing, and the only those few
- 1:31:28Speaker 2: losses that sit there are all Alabama and he's one
- 1:31:31Speaker 2: and seven and can you get the can he get
- 1:31:33Speaker 2: the monkey off of his back? Or what you kept
- 1:31:35Speaker 2: calling him? The grim Reaper? Alabama and the Grim Reaper?
- 1:31:37Speaker 2: Yeah to Georgia, I.
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: Mean Georgia fans were betting on Bama to win the game. Yeah,
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: I hey, who would you take? Who'd you take on? Fans?
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: Or they'd be like, I took I took Bama. Beg, Oh,
- 1:31:48Speaker 1: you're not even bigging. He's like, listen, if it takes
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: me to lose money to try to try and defeat
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: this monster, like, then that's what I'm gonna have to do.
- 1:31:55Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was just Georgia came out the way
- 1:31:59Speaker 2: they came out in the second half of their first game.
- 1:32:02Speaker 2: A lot of man they pressed them. They they brought
- 1:32:05Speaker 2: the fight to Alabama and that's the way they won
- 1:32:07Speaker 2: the game. I mean Ty Simpson, Friend of the Future,
- 1:32:10Speaker 2: Front of the show, like the kids sitting there right
- 1:32:12Speaker 2: before the game, dapping us both up. He's doing the
- 1:32:15Speaker 2: joke about keeping it high and tie like, dude, he
- 1:32:18Speaker 2: was awesome about it. Uncharacteristically bad game for him. I mean,
- 1:32:21Speaker 2: he was like under fifty percent. I think he was
- 1:32:22Speaker 2: even under like forty five percent completion percentage at the
- 1:32:25Speaker 2: end of it all. But Georgia just took a hold
- 1:32:27Speaker 2: of that thing from the get go and just ran
- 1:32:29Speaker 2: through it.
- 1:32:30Speaker 1: Here.
- 1:32:31Speaker 2: I love to know, like where your mind was during
- 1:32:34Speaker 2: this game, because at the end of the day, like,
- 1:32:37Speaker 2: do conference championships really matter? Like we're really trying to
- 1:32:39Speaker 2: win a national checks.
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: Ready to get into Yeah, you know, people tune and
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: then they want to hear this college football breakdown. There's
- 1:32:46Speaker 1: a lot to be said.
- 1:32:47Speaker 10: No, no, obviously an unfortunate outcome for the Tide, but
- 1:32:51Speaker 10: to be there for a busting trip you guys already
- 1:32:54Speaker 10: said it was amazing. I am officially zero and too
- 1:32:57Speaker 10: when vlogging Bama games. Oh so we got to keep
- 1:33:03Speaker 10: that in mind looking forward. We'll make some business decisions
- 1:33:07Speaker 10: when that gets presented next. But it was so fun,
- 1:33:10Speaker 10: like we when we did that lap on the field before,
- 1:33:13Speaker 10: uh you asked me, you were like, is this not
- 1:33:16Speaker 10: sick for you? And I was like, yeah, I mean
- 1:33:18Speaker 10: this is insane, Like whenever you get to watch your
- 1:33:21Speaker 10: ball club like that close, it's just it's just an
- 1:33:24Speaker 10: awesome experience. So appreciate that.
- 1:33:28Speaker 2: Yeah, dude.
- 1:33:28Speaker 10: When that block punt happened, it was like, fuck, bro,
- 1:33:31Speaker 10: I know how this goes.
- 1:33:33Speaker 2: At punparked the entire thing.
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: Bro eighty three yeah, untouched.
- 1:33:39Speaker 10: So that was that was brutal. I immediately hit the
- 1:33:42Speaker 10: group channels like that's only seven. They're getting a little
- 1:33:45Speaker 10: that I know interception right, Yeah, that was tough. Hey,
- 1:33:49Speaker 10: sure to stat sheet and uh, go ahead.
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: Can you look up number eighty three while Garrett finishes this,
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: because I want to shout that kid out.
- 1:33:55Speaker 2: Bro, yeah Kury smartness posting press Confort shout at him out.
- 1:33:57Speaker 5: Good.
- 1:33:58Speaker 1: He wasn't even on a production sheet.
- 1:34:00Speaker 9: You.
- 1:34:01Speaker 10: Uh, what's crazy is the person that plays that position
- 1:34:05Speaker 10: to pick that block up. Lt Overton out So new kid,
- 1:34:10Speaker 10: new assignment. Yeah, no excuses, kid got back there untouched.
- 1:34:17Speaker 10: But yeah, when you allow a team like Georgia when
- 1:34:19Speaker 10: they were when they're peaking, to start with the ball
- 1:34:22Speaker 10: on your side of the field every time they touch
- 1:34:25Speaker 10: the ball, you're gonna have a long day.
- 1:34:28Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Like watching that game, you sit there and
- 1:34:30Speaker 2: you're like, you watch how September, October November kind of
- 1:34:33Speaker 2: unfolded for Georgia where they just kind of sat in
- 1:34:35Speaker 2: the shadows for a while, not really covering a whole lot.
- 1:34:38Speaker 2: They're down at half more times than not, and they
- 1:34:41Speaker 2: just progressively gather their momentum. They keep moving forward and
- 1:34:44Speaker 2: they get better and better. It's like they might be
- 1:34:47Speaker 2: walking into this the scariest team in all the playoffs
- 1:34:50Speaker 2: right now, especially what happened in the Big Ten Championship.
- 1:34:51Speaker 10: They started the season injured and are now.
- 1:34:54Speaker 2: Healthy, right and you see six guys out for that game.
- 1:34:57Speaker 10: What's happening for us started healthy? Now it's kind of dwindling.
- 1:35:02Speaker 10: But I mean you said it like does the game matter? Like, yeah,
- 1:35:06Speaker 10: I think it matters a lot.
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: We didn't move that was bizarre, man.
- 1:35:13Speaker 2: I think it's that that was kind of a we
- 1:35:17Speaker 2: kind of expected go that way.
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, but that I think it's still I
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: do think I do think this.
- 1:35:24Speaker 10: I think that if you win your conference championship game,
- 1:35:27Speaker 10: you should be rewarded above a team who lost theirs.
- 1:35:31Speaker 10: So I do think Indiana should be one, Georgia should
- 1:35:33Speaker 10: be two, yeah, and then Ohio State three.
- 1:35:36Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that.
- 1:35:38Speaker 10: You know, you should be rewarded for winning your at
- 1:35:41Speaker 10: that point.
- 1:35:41Speaker 2: Though, Like, really, when it comes to one, two, three, four,
- 1:35:45Speaker 2: as long as you're one through four, it doesn't matter
- 1:35:48Speaker 2: because by the time you get to the games we're
- 1:35:50Speaker 2: going to play, they're neutral sites and it's really about
- 1:35:51Speaker 2: what color jurory you're wearing.
- 1:35:52Speaker 10: And you have three and a half weeks regardless.
- 1:35:54Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So like to me, it's like one is
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: no different than four other than we get to wear
- 1:35:59Speaker 2: our main color, you know, at the end of the day.
- 1:36:02Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree with that. I think Georgia probably
- 1:36:04Speaker 2: should have jumped up to two and then Aha st
- 1:36:06Speaker 2: eight to three. I don't think we need to go
- 1:36:10Speaker 2: through Let's let's hit the conference championship games real quick.
- 1:36:13Speaker 2: And then we can get into this because this is
- 1:36:14Speaker 2: a whole bag of like you look at it can
- 1:36:17Speaker 2: be very quick. Like the doomsday scenario that we wanted
- 1:36:20Speaker 2: that we kind of wanted for the chaos to take place,
- 1:36:22Speaker 2: took place right Like Duke goes over time with Virginia.
- 1:36:25Speaker 2: They end up winning that game. That's incredible. I saw an.
- 1:36:29Speaker 1: Amazing coach watching the kids trying the coach and the
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: kids trying to break down. We're a playoff team, just
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: like I saw.
- 1:36:35Speaker 2: I saw a Shirm's post about AC commercial but the
- 1:36:37Speaker 2: Bobbleheads it's like winner goes to the playoffs and I
- 1:36:40Speaker 2: was like, yep, should be a full one.
- 1:36:41Speaker 6: Yep.
- 1:36:41Speaker 2: And I'm thinking myself, I understand what they're trying to do,
- 1:36:45Speaker 2: Like you're trying to make sure that you're the acc
- 1:36:47Speaker 2: as representative and you're going to playoffs. There was never
- 1:36:50Speaker 2: if you're Duke and you're a fan of Duke and
- 1:36:52Speaker 2: you're watching this show and you're like, fight for Duke, buddy,
- 1:36:55Speaker 2: there was never a chance that you guys were going
- 1:36:57Speaker 2: to make it in the playoffs. Never, nothing could taken place.
- 1:37:03Speaker 2: But listen, that was awesome to see because you love
- 1:37:06Speaker 2: the chaos and we'll get in the playoff bracket in
- 1:37:08Speaker 2: a second. And it's like if you want to change,
- 1:37:09Speaker 2: these types of things need to happen for to change.
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted Duke to win, so like you know,
- 1:37:15Speaker 1: you knew I wanted Duke to win. So two G
- 1:37:17Speaker 1: five went to the college football playoffs to like punish
- 1:37:20Speaker 1: our overall outlook on how the playoff gets set.
- 1:37:23Speaker 2: Up, because you see it once again our bikedon championship
- 1:37:25Speaker 2: Indiana Ohio State. I think we were all blindsided by that,
- 1:37:29Speaker 2: that victory by Indiana. We have to Kurt Signetti is
- 1:37:33Speaker 2: the best coaching college football dude.
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: What Signetti has done at Indiana. And look I've said,
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: you know, Nebraska played him last year, so I was
- 1:37:41Speaker 1: nasty about him during that week and then you know,
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: kind of trolled them. But what Kurt Signetti has done
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: at Indiana. They were three and nine before he came
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: to town. This is the first time ever they've had
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: back to back double digit win seasons, the first time
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: they've won a conference championship since nineteen forty five.
- 1:37:58Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean program in college football history.
- 1:38:02Speaker 8: They were were. Now Northwestern has past them, but like
- 1:38:05Speaker 8: that Northwestern, Yeah, because of big Netti.
- 1:38:09Speaker 1: It is incredible what Indiana has done.
- 1:38:13Speaker 2: And k Kurt Signetti, dude, that's fucking smirky head walking
- 1:38:17Speaker 2: off the fields.
- 1:38:19Speaker 10: His post game was Mike Dropworthy about being humbled. It's
- 1:38:23Speaker 10: like three and a half weeks.
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dude.
- 1:38:28Speaker 2: And I saw a graphic that was talking about the
- 1:38:31Speaker 2: different and talent that both teams had going to this game,
- 1:38:34Speaker 2: like this is the biggest separation of town we eversus.
- 1:38:35Speaker 2: Like I think I had sixty seven blue chip guys,
- 1:38:38Speaker 2: eleven five stars and the rest four stars. Indiana had
- 1:38:42Speaker 2: zero five stars and seven four stars on their team.
- 1:38:46Speaker 2: And that team with no five stars and seven four
- 1:38:49Speaker 2: stars beat sixty seven blue chip players. I mean, dude,
- 1:38:54Speaker 2: but the.
- 1:38:55Speaker 1: Way Indiana has played this year, it's not to give
- 1:38:58Speaker 1: that team and all those kids credit. It's like each
- 1:39:02Speaker 1: category Indiana was ranked above them statistically, and a lot
- 1:39:06Speaker 1: of these categories going into the game, with the schedule
- 1:39:08Speaker 1: Ohio State, it's kind of had all year. So as
- 1:39:10Speaker 1: we were getting closer to the game, I'm like, man,
- 1:39:12Speaker 1: I remember we were talking to the car I'm like,
- 1:39:14Speaker 1: I feel like nobody's really been considering Indiana beating Ohia State.
- 1:39:17Speaker 2: Dude, I was saying.
- 1:39:18Speaker 1: The line was at four and a half, and it's like,
- 1:39:19Speaker 1: who knows what's gonna happen, Like this defense is for real.
- 1:39:22Speaker 1: They get to prove it against an offense like Oha State,
- 1:39:24Speaker 1: and they went out and did it.
- 1:39:26Speaker 10: I expected more points.
- 1:39:28Speaker 2: I kind of did too. I expected more points about
- 1:39:30Speaker 2: Hoo State for sure. I thought I didn't know what
- 1:39:33Speaker 2: Indiana really was. What this tells me about anything is
- 1:39:35Speaker 2: like Yo, Oregon, they're a bit of a beast too,
- 1:39:38Speaker 2: and they're gonna have enough time to kind of sit
- 1:39:40Speaker 2: their away to get a little tuned up with GMU,
- 1:39:41Speaker 2: so I don't have to have that little by a
- 1:39:43Speaker 2: week that kind of seemed like got to hurt him
- 1:39:45Speaker 2: last year. And it's like it's hard to beat a
- 1:39:48Speaker 2: team twice. They could see each other again. It's dude,
- 1:39:51Speaker 2: it's gonna be awesome.
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So Indiana wins. And by the way, Fernando
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: Mendoza's post game buddy, I threw out that tweet Fernando
- 1:40:00Speaker 1: Mendoza's Kirk Cousins on cocaine like.
- 1:40:03Speaker 2: The dude das it looks similar.
- 1:40:05Speaker 1: The dude just can't miss on a mic any type pops.
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: I mean Charles sitting there. She starts laughing because it's
- 1:40:10Speaker 1: like her first time seeing seeing Fernanda Mendoza speak on
- 1:40:13Speaker 1: a mic, and I am just grinning ear to ear,
- 1:40:16Speaker 1: like this is exactly what I wanted him talking about
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: super glue in the team.
- 1:40:20Speaker 2: And wrapping his hands around the reporter's mike to do
- 1:40:23Speaker 2: the super glow, his movements, everything.
- 1:40:26Speaker 10: Between his post game and then Duke's coach postgame, who
- 1:40:30Speaker 10: was more cringe.
- 1:40:31Speaker 1: Part of me was like just I loved Fernando.
- 1:40:34Speaker 2: People people. I saw a lot of tweet people hating
- 1:40:36Speaker 2: on Fernando. I personally love it.
- 1:40:38Speaker 7: I hate I didn't.
- 1:40:39Speaker 8: I obviously hated it because like we lost, but it's
- 1:40:42Speaker 8: like you can't you can't knock the love for the
- 1:40:46Speaker 8: game and.
- 1:40:47Speaker 1: The passion that he has, Like that is him, Like
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: that's his authenticity. Like the dude coach. You know, he's
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: sitting there lying through his teeth talk about we deserve
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: to be in the playoffs.
- 1:40:55Speaker 2: Yeah, he sat there with his with his team and
- 1:40:56Speaker 2: he's like I gotta say that, Yeah, I guess we'll
- 1:40:58Speaker 2: go in.
- 1:40:59Speaker 1: Let me go fight seven win regular season team. We
- 1:41:03Speaker 1: lost to five good teams. Dude, Fernando was real, like
- 1:41:09Speaker 1: you got for Nanda Mendozo. That's what I loved, a.
- 1:41:12Speaker 2: Beating the number one team in the country being undefeated.
- 1:41:15Speaker 6: Also, Nashville Pod Bust with the Boys got a shout
- 1:41:18Speaker 6: out Nashville guy Charlie Becker on Indiana the receiver. Yeah
- 1:41:22Speaker 6: he went to father Ryan Na Malone's claiming that they
- 1:41:26Speaker 6: were best friends.
- 1:41:30Speaker 9: Yeah, but that kid was going off.
- 1:41:33Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's go, dude, it's crazy these kids. Watch man.
- 1:41:38Speaker 2: It just goes back to us walking around the sideline
- 1:41:41Speaker 2: of the dude's like dapping us up, loving the show.
- 1:41:43Speaker 2: By Simpson being all about it.
- 1:41:45Speaker 1: In the Big twelve Championship, by you got blown out.
- 1:41:47Speaker 1: I think it was.
- 1:41:48Speaker 2: I think we all expected and points did that. Yeah,
- 1:41:51Speaker 2: I mean, you knew it was over when Jacob Rodriguez
- 1:41:53Speaker 2: was on college game Day and it was two hundred
- 1:41:55Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars from Hit the crossb after Diego Pavia
- 1:41:58Speaker 2: did not a couple of weeks ago, and he binks
- 1:42:00Speaker 2: that thing no problem, had a swag and a walk
- 1:42:02Speaker 2: about him with a mustache in the neck. The neck
- 1:42:06Speaker 2: is show crazy.
- 1:42:07Speaker 1: On the kid arms, the quads, the entire build for
- 1:42:12Speaker 1: that linebacker. I just want to. I just want to
- 1:42:15Speaker 1: get my hands on it. Yeah, Jacob, I just get
- 1:42:18Speaker 1: my hand. If you can do second, just back, buddy.
- 1:42:20Speaker 1: I'm fired up for.
- 1:42:21Speaker 2: If you could go to the combine and pretend to
- 1:42:23Speaker 2: be like a medical physician, just to put your hands
- 1:42:25Speaker 2: on him, feel the quads a little bit, walk in
- 1:42:28Speaker 2: and got a mask on. I don't look at this kid, Dude,
- 1:42:30Speaker 2: he's got a two head. He didn't get a four.
- 1:42:32Speaker 2: That's how full how much full hair he has?
- 1:42:34Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I'm just gonna daw feel your quads for
- 1:42:37Speaker 1: a second. Make sure you don't have any strains.
- 1:42:39Speaker 2: Look at the jersey the trap movement there, dude, that
- 1:42:42Speaker 2: guy's never gonna stare in his life. But he got
- 1:42:46Speaker 2: a twenty twelve will contin neck. Yeah, he's got his
- 1:42:49Speaker 2: neck is bigger than his head. This kid is fucking unbelievable.
- 1:42:53Speaker 5: Man.
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: It's a good looking young man.
- 1:42:55Speaker 2: Good looking young man. Married boy too, married man, Where
- 1:42:58Speaker 2: do you come from? Virginia?
- 1:42:59Speaker 7: Look at that?
- 1:43:00Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
- 1:43:00Speaker 7: His wife is a badass too. She's a black Hawk
- 1:43:04Speaker 7: black Hawk helicopter pilot.
- 1:43:07Speaker 1: Of course she is.
- 1:43:07Speaker 7: Of course, Yeah, it's so badass.
- 1:43:09Speaker 2: Wouldn't have had it any other way. Match this kid.
- 1:43:12Speaker 2: We gotta get him on the pod.
- 1:43:13Speaker 1: That's where Jacob Rodriguez deserves.
- 1:43:16Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean imagine him going back when his
- 1:43:20Speaker 2: twenty year football career is over, goes back to Texas
- 1:43:23Speaker 2: Tech and just runs that show. Yeah, God bless look
- 1:43:27Speaker 2: at him.
- 1:43:28Speaker 1: So what were you guys' thoughts on the college football Playoff?
- 1:43:32Speaker 1: What were you guys just thoughts on the College Football Playoff?
- 1:43:34Speaker 5: Like the rankings and stuff.
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: Yeah, like how it worked out, the chaos that ensued. Again,
- 1:43:39Speaker 1: I was I was fired up that Duke one because
- 1:43:41Speaker 1: it's almost like I don't believe we all. It's like
- 1:43:44Speaker 1: the G five teams getting in. It sucks. I went
- 1:43:46Speaker 1: to twelve best teams, but it's almost like to punish
- 1:43:48Speaker 1: us for this system that we have. I think with them.
- 1:43:51Speaker 4: Getting in, I don't really understand why Notre Dame was
- 1:43:54Speaker 4: so puzzled why they weren't.
- 1:43:55Speaker 2: In, because they don't know the rules. And if I'm
- 1:43:58Speaker 2: a Notre Dame fan and I wasn't being educated by
- 1:44:01Speaker 2: Josh paidon being in this world as much as we
- 1:44:03Speaker 2: are this year, I would have the same exact view. Yeah,
- 1:44:05Speaker 2: but they just don't know that this is how it
- 1:44:07Speaker 2: happen that this is how it goes.
- 1:44:08Speaker 4: Because I'm watching it and everybody's complaining, I'm just like, well, no,
- 1:44:11Speaker 4: this is there's two G five teams and y'all lost
- 1:44:14Speaker 4: to Miami.
- 1:44:15Speaker 1: Yeah, Notre Dame. Notre Dame got screwed.
- 1:44:17Speaker 7: Bro I saw there because of the G five's because a.
- 1:44:21Speaker 2: Few different angles, Miami should be in over Notre Dame.
- 1:44:24Speaker 2: That's it's clear. The only argument to that is who
- 1:44:29Speaker 2: do you believe is a better team right now, Notre
- 1:44:30Speaker 2: Dame or Miami. And they answer to that question is
- 1:44:32Speaker 2: most likely for everybody going to be Notre Dame. But
- 1:44:35Speaker 2: other than that, if you put schedule up against schedule,
- 1:44:38Speaker 2: common opponent wins versus common to put it wins head
- 1:44:41Speaker 2: to heads, it's like it's all in Miami's favor and
- 1:44:43Speaker 2: that's just the reality. The they're more deserving than Notre
- 1:44:46Speaker 2: Dame to be in the game.
- 1:44:46Speaker 7: I saw it.
- 1:44:47Speaker 8: I saw a tweet and I don't know if you
- 1:44:49Speaker 8: retweeted or something, but like, I think after this year,
- 1:44:52Speaker 8: it's like written in the contract or the College Football playoff.
- 1:44:56Speaker 1: Yeah that mo ou to where if they're ranked in
- 1:44:58Speaker 1: the top twelve going into the regular season, next year
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: they're an automatic bid.
- 1:45:01Speaker 7: I don't think I thought it was at the end
- 1:45:03Speaker 7: of the season, not going into the season.
- 1:45:06Speaker 2: It's got to be at the end. Yeah, I thought
- 1:45:08Speaker 2: the start, they start off at eleven, they go one
- 1:45:11Speaker 2: and eleven, They're like, we gotta put them in though. Yeah,
- 1:45:14Speaker 2: g five now Yeah.
- 1:45:16Speaker 8: This is from Ross Dellinger and new Zy Wrinkle from
- 1:45:19Speaker 8: Bovaqua whatever as a part of an MoU signed last spring.
- 1:45:22Speaker 8: Notre Dame is a shure a CFB perth if it
- 1:45:24Speaker 8: is ranked in the top twelve starting next year. The
- 1:45:27Speaker 8: situation unfolds next year, the final at large team Miami
- 1:45:30Speaker 8: would have gotten bumped for number eleven Notre.
- 1:45:32Speaker 2: Dames, which is there would be a legitimate argument from
- 1:45:35Speaker 2: Miami fans.
- 1:45:36Speaker 8: And be like what what The fact that they have
- 1:45:38Speaker 8: a special rule because they're not in a conference is
- 1:45:41Speaker 8: the most insane thing. And then I think it's also
- 1:45:42Speaker 8: bitch made that they're not playing in a bowl game.
- 1:45:44Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think I can. I can understand
- 1:45:47Speaker 1: everybody's angle. The competitor. It's like, yeah, it kind of
- 1:45:50Speaker 1: sucks that they're taking their ball and going home. But
- 1:45:52Speaker 1: if you're also Notre Dame on the highest viewpoint, I
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: would be livid that we got left out of the
- 1:45:57Speaker 1: college football playoff. I'd be living livid because you look,
- 1:46:01Speaker 1: that's why I had the tweet yesterday. It was insane
- 1:46:03Speaker 1: to hear Hunter on behalf of the committee talk about
- 1:46:07Speaker 1: how we watched that game yesterday with BYU. That's why
- 1:46:10Speaker 1: they never really had a shot. They were never going
- 1:46:12Speaker 1: to be in the playoff to begin with. I completely
- 1:46:14Speaker 1: understand it. People like, well, you don't understand that Bama
- 1:46:16Speaker 1: was already in the playoff. BYU wasn't in the playoffs.
- 1:46:19Speaker 1: I get that. To me, it's you're talking about what
- 1:46:22Speaker 1: you watched on the field, and that's what pushed them
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: back at ranking. What you watched on the field in
- 1:46:26Speaker 1: the SEC Championship was the same exact thing, and they
- 1:46:30Speaker 1: they went full protection mode on Bama and the SEC,
- 1:46:33Speaker 1: which again we know the powers that be the SEC,
- 1:46:37Speaker 1: ESPN all where the money's at. You don't want to
- 1:46:39Speaker 1: piss off your biggest, your best product. They were never
- 1:46:41Speaker 1: gonna move Bama. So in my opinion, you're either going
- 1:46:44Speaker 1: to move both BYU and Bama back a slot, which
- 1:46:47Speaker 1: again Alabama is still in the playoff. BYU is still
- 1:46:49Speaker 1: out of the playoff, or you're going to keep them
- 1:46:51Speaker 1: both right where they're at. But the problem was they
- 1:46:54Speaker 1: fucked up putting Notre Dame so high in Miami so
- 1:46:56Speaker 1: far back to begin with, because they knew they had
- 1:46:59Speaker 1: to manipulate this system to get them side by side.
- 1:47:01Speaker 1: Give kind of the nod to Miami over Notre Dame
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: because they beat him head to head. But that's all
- 1:47:05Speaker 1: they were trying to do. Because the way that my
- 1:47:08Speaker 1: man was up there breaking down each conference game, I'm like, yo,
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: this is unreal hearing him talk about BYU like this
- 1:47:14Speaker 1: and then fully protect Alabama because it's like you either
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: just keep them where they're at or you move them
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: back a slot. I thought that they would move Bama
- 1:47:20Speaker 1: back a slat based on that performance, because again, if not,
- 1:47:23Speaker 1: it's like, these conference games shouldn't mean anything. If nobody's
- 1:47:25Speaker 1: gonna move and there's there's not gonna be a whole
- 1:47:27Speaker 1: lot of movement, just take the conference championship games out
- 1:47:30Speaker 1: of it. But that was where I was kind of like, dude,
- 1:47:32Speaker 1: I would be livid if I was Notre Dame because
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: if Bama does the same thing, Bama is still in
- 1:47:37Speaker 1: the playoff at ten. But now Notre Dame, you have
- 1:47:40Speaker 1: to flip them. Notre Dame has to be nine, so
- 1:47:42Speaker 1: they're never compared right next to Miami. At the end
- 1:47:44Speaker 1: of the day, I do think both Miami and Notre
- 1:47:46Speaker 1: Dame should be in over We have two G fives
- 1:47:49Speaker 1: in That sucks. But a hunter, they're gonna sit up
- 1:47:52Speaker 1: there and say it had nothing to do with the
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: ACC representation. To me, that's that's complete bullshit, Like that's
- 1:47:58Speaker 1: why Miami's getting in, putting not in any other position,
- 1:48:01Speaker 1: put Notre Dame. Say Michigan's tending to in Notre Dame.
- 1:48:04Speaker 1: Spot any team in here if your team is what
- 1:48:07Speaker 1: Notre Dame was sitting at, they're all getting in. Now
- 1:48:10Speaker 1: Notre Dame's in the ACC. They're getting they're playing in
- 1:48:13Speaker 1: the ACC Championship because they don't. They only have one
- 1:48:16Speaker 1: conference loss compared to Miami's.
- 1:48:18Speaker 6: Too.
- 1:48:18Speaker 1: Again, everybody's been begging them to get in the conference.
- 1:48:21Speaker 1: People are happy that they're not punished for not being
- 1:48:23Speaker 1: in a conference. I get all of that, but Notre
- 1:48:25Speaker 1: Dame in any other situation, they are getting in that
- 1:48:28Speaker 1: college football playoffs, so I would be absolutely pissed. I
- 1:48:31Speaker 1: completely understand why they're removing themselves their rights. They don't
- 1:48:34Speaker 1: want to help out X, Y and Z. I get
- 1:48:36Speaker 1: that from a high level, From a competitive level, it sucks.
- 1:48:38Speaker 1: It's like you want to go put the ball down anywhere,
- 1:48:40Speaker 1: any place anytime. People say bowl games mean absolutely nothing,
- 1:48:44Speaker 1: so there's really no upside to playing in a bowl
- 1:48:46Speaker 1: game anyway. I get all of it, but I would
- 1:48:48Speaker 1: be livid if I was in the Notre Dame camp.
- 1:48:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:48:52Speaker 1: And again, if the majority thinks they're the better football team,
- 1:48:55Speaker 1: you put the better football team in the college football playoff.
- 1:48:58Speaker 2: Can't put you can't put the better football team in
- 1:49:00Speaker 2: over the more deserving football team in. Can't do it.
- 1:49:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, and that's why I personally want
- 1:49:06Speaker 1: G was the first team these deserving teams to like, Okay,
- 1:49:09Speaker 1: we want the best. I want the best teams going
- 1:49:12Speaker 1: in the Costo player. I don't disagree because right before
- 1:49:14Speaker 1: the selection Sunday happened, they're at a minus thirty five
- 1:49:18Speaker 1: hundred to get in like everything, they're favored against basically
- 1:49:20Speaker 1: every team except like three teams, like they had a
- 1:49:23Speaker 1: top four shot of winning this thing. And I hate
- 1:49:26Speaker 1: that we're not seeing the twelve best teams after Bama
- 1:49:29Speaker 1: lost the way that they lost, and I get it,
- 1:49:32Speaker 1: they earned the right to be in the SEC Championship,
- 1:49:35Speaker 1: but what we saw the way they lost, the way
- 1:49:37Speaker 1: they've kind of hobbled in at the end of the year,
- 1:49:39Speaker 1: beating South Carolina by seven, surviving against Auburn, getting whooped
- 1:49:44Speaker 1: like that in the SEC Championship.
- 1:49:45Speaker 2: To me, I was saying it on the broadcast.
- 1:49:48Speaker 1: I put out the tweet. I'm like putting Notre Dame
- 1:49:49Speaker 1: in Miami, both in because they both seem like they're
- 1:49:52Speaker 1: the better football team than Alabama.
- 1:49:55Speaker 2: Okay, you can't disagree with the fact that Alabama kind
- 1:49:57Speaker 2: of lived themselves in the SEC Championship. If you take
- 1:49:59Speaker 2: Alabama out of the playoffs, the SEC would fucking lose
- 1:50:04Speaker 2: their mind. It would be like, the SEC is the
- 1:50:07Speaker 2: highest earner for all of college football. We know that,
- 1:50:09Speaker 2: we understand that they are not going to take out
- 1:50:12Speaker 2: another SEC school because of it. That's not going to happen.
- 1:50:15Speaker 2: I don't know what you said. So many words you
- 1:50:17Speaker 2: talked about BYU for a second, b YU was never
- 1:50:20Speaker 2: in the playoffs. I might have been ranked eleven, but
- 1:50:22Speaker 2: they were never in the playoffs. Because when everything sort
- 1:50:25Speaker 2: itself out, these G five teams had to be in,
- 1:50:28Speaker 2: so unless you're in that ten slot, you're actually not
- 1:50:31Speaker 2: in like eleven and twelve for kind of placeholders for
- 1:50:34Speaker 2: the ACC Championship taking place or these what ended up
- 1:50:37Speaker 2: being the two G fives. So if you're BYU, you
- 1:50:40Speaker 2: had it was very black and white. You win, you're
- 1:50:42Speaker 2: going to be in the playoffs. You lose, you were
- 1:50:44Speaker 2: out of the playoffs. It'd been very interesting to see
- 1:50:46Speaker 2: BYU win that game, to see what happens with Alabama
- 1:50:48Speaker 2: Notre Dame in Miami. But if you're Alabama, it's like
- 1:50:53Speaker 2: you've earned a luxury to play in this game that
- 1:50:56Speaker 2: Ole miss that didn't have and who was in Oklahoma
- 1:51:00Speaker 2: and and m so three teams like weren't good enough
- 1:51:04Speaker 2: to get in this game, and you're gonna take out
- 1:51:06Speaker 2: a team that was good enough to get in this game.
- 1:51:08Speaker 2: That makes zero sense all of them to me. This
- 1:51:10Speaker 2: is a week thirteen, but it's like it's exhibition, Like
- 1:51:14Speaker 2: whoever wins, they get to hold up a trophy they get,
- 1:51:16Speaker 2: the better they can get the confetti the other team.
- 1:51:18Speaker 2: Hopefully we're not injured, because the real, the real journey
- 1:51:21Speaker 2: is but to begin in a couple of weeks we
- 1:51:22Speaker 2: go for the for the playoffs. People that are mad
- 1:51:25Speaker 2: that Alabama's still in it, it's just buddy, two things,
- 1:51:28Speaker 2: money and you're never gonna punish a team for being
- 1:51:31Speaker 2: the second best in your conference.
- 1:51:32Speaker 10: Again, I'm not like that game is the number one
- 1:51:35Speaker 10: seed in the SEC.
- 1:51:36Speaker 1: Yeah right, we all knew that. That was like Alabama
- 1:51:40Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be out of it. I'm saying, if you're
- 1:51:42Speaker 1: looking at just what happened and everything else, it's like, yo,
- 1:51:45Speaker 1: just put Notre Dame Miami. I get that that was
- 1:51:48Speaker 1: never going to be the case. They were going to
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: keep Miami in and I know BYU is not gonna
- 1:51:52Speaker 1: be in the playoffs, But in those situations, those rankings
- 1:51:56Speaker 1: still matter, and all in the system essentially just had
- 1:52:00Speaker 1: to figure out a way to manipulate to where this
- 1:52:02Speaker 1: Notre Dame Miami conversation had to take place, or saying, hey,
- 1:52:06Speaker 1: they had to head to head win. It's like you
- 1:52:07Speaker 1: needed an ACC team in. And also like you're up
- 1:52:11Speaker 1: there talking about how BYU the way they perform, that's
- 1:52:13Speaker 1: why their ranking drops back to me, it's like, I
- 1:52:15Speaker 1: know BYU is never gonna be in it. I'm not
- 1:52:17Speaker 1: arguing they should have been in it even with a
- 1:52:18Speaker 1: close loss, but them them holding true to that eleven
- 1:52:22Speaker 1: ranking when Alabama didn't move down either. To me, that's
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: where I was like, guys, just say you messed up.
- 1:52:27Speaker 1: You messed up, and you had to figure out the
- 1:52:28Speaker 1: system to get Notre Dame in Miami. We messed up
- 1:52:31Speaker 1: by making Notre Dame so much higher in the very
- 1:52:33Speaker 1: beginning when we opened it up. We fucked up by
- 1:52:35Speaker 1: disrespecting Miami's ranking. At the very end, we never talked
- 1:52:38Speaker 1: about their head to head. The world exploded over it,
- 1:52:41Speaker 1: and at the eleventh hour you had to just figure
- 1:52:43Speaker 1: out a way to manipulate it a little bit to
- 1:52:44Speaker 1: get him head to head. I would rather just hear
- 1:52:46Speaker 1: him say, hey, we messed up from the get go,
- 1:52:48Speaker 1: versus being like BYU the way they lost, that's kind
- 1:52:51Speaker 1: of why their ranking goes back one or they were
- 1:52:53Speaker 1: never going to be a playoff. I know they were
- 1:52:55Speaker 1: never gonna be in every time. But then fully protecting, yeah,
- 1:52:58Speaker 1: fully protecting Bama versus being like, again, if you're doing
- 1:53:01Speaker 1: the same thing to BYU moving them back one Byama
- 1:53:04Speaker 1: is still in with going down in Bama is still
- 1:53:06Speaker 1: in with going down to ten, you would just it
- 1:53:08Speaker 1: would make that argument that much harder for Notre Dame.
- 1:53:11Speaker 10: To me, that's why I was shocked they didn't move
- 1:53:13Speaker 10: Alabama down one spot to keep Notre Dame in. It
- 1:53:17Speaker 10: helps your case if you're the committee, say Okay, they're
- 1:53:21Speaker 10: still in, but we did punish them by moving them down.
- 1:53:23Speaker 10: You did reward Notre Dame. But where they messed up
- 1:53:26Speaker 10: is what you're saying, like three weeks ago, yeah they did.
- 1:53:28Speaker 10: The bracket is where they started this chaos.
- 1:53:32Speaker 1: Yes, yes, agree on a hundred.
- 1:53:34Speaker 2: This issue came week three of college football when you
- 1:53:38Speaker 2: had Notre Dame still in the AP, which I know
- 1:53:40Speaker 2: AP and College Wall playoff bracket tw two different things.
- 1:53:43Speaker 2: Notre Dame loses two games in a row. I understand
- 1:53:46Speaker 2: those are two highly ranked teams, but they're the first team,
- 1:53:49Speaker 2: and I don't know how long we can obviously look
- 1:53:50Speaker 2: it up that Notre Dame stayed in the top twenty five,
- 1:53:53Speaker 2: knowing good and well that this brand, this logo and
- 1:53:57Speaker 2: South Bend Indiana and what they've been able to do
- 1:53:58Speaker 2: for college football. We need getting the playoffs hopefully. These
- 1:54:01Speaker 2: other two teams they lost to stumble fall and get
- 1:54:04Speaker 2: one more loss in Notre Dame doesks we know that
- 1:54:06Speaker 2: they're probably gonna win the next ten games in a row.
- 1:54:08Speaker 2: That is where they messed up is the game of assumption.
- 1:54:11Speaker 2: Now the BYU thing, I don't know why this guy
- 1:54:14Speaker 2: sitting up in a press conference going well because of
- 1:54:16Speaker 2: BYU lost by this much. The easiest answer is they hey,
- 1:54:19Speaker 2: they were never in it, like based on the rules
- 1:54:22Speaker 2: and how this whole thing is structured. Even though these
- 1:54:24Speaker 2: two teams is to Lane and GMU that you now
- 1:54:27Speaker 2: see up here, they're in. They were always in. These
- 1:54:30Speaker 2: eleven and twelve guys in thirteen fourteen, they were all
- 1:54:33Speaker 2: placeholders for what happened in the ACC championship. That's it.
- 1:54:37Speaker 2: The only way BYU makes it in is if they
- 1:54:40Speaker 2: win the Big twelve, then Miami's also out. Miami would
- 1:54:45Speaker 2: never in and then and then because the College Ruble
- 1:54:47Speaker 2: brought the College Bable Playoff is built to have the
- 1:54:50Speaker 2: SEC winner, the Big ten winner, a Bag twelve winner,
- 1:54:53Speaker 2: and the ACC winner. That is how it's built. But
- 1:54:55Speaker 2: because the ACC has the most insane schedule, a billion
- 1:54:58Speaker 2: teams in it, and none of the good teams actually
- 1:54:59Speaker 2: play each other, and they fucked around the whole entire year. Now,
- 1:55:02Speaker 2: the committee found themselves in a spot they never thought
- 1:55:04Speaker 2: they would be in, and so this is what's great.
- 1:55:07Speaker 2: A lot of people can be pissed about this. If
- 1:55:08Speaker 2: you're Notre Dame, feel free to be mad. If your Texas,
- 1:55:10Speaker 2: feel free.
- 1:55:10Speaker 1: To be mad.
- 1:55:11Speaker 2: The people I feel most bad for is Vanderbilt said it.
- 1:55:13Speaker 2: I'm the only one saying it. However, it sucks for
- 1:55:16Speaker 2: you guys that you're not in this playoff going down
- 1:55:18Speaker 2: the road now. The only way for real change to
- 1:55:20Speaker 2: take place is when catastrophic things happen. This would qualify
- 1:55:23Speaker 2: as a catastrophic thing happening so that the next year
- 1:55:26Speaker 2: the college wall bracket is more. Hey, the best twelve
- 1:55:29Speaker 2: teams now. The answer to that question, to me, even
- 1:55:33Speaker 2: though I would love to see it, the answer is
- 1:55:35Speaker 2: not to make it sixteen. That is not your answer,
- 1:55:38Speaker 2: because you're going to run in the same problem with
- 1:55:39Speaker 2: sixteen through eighteen, and then there's gonna be the Jmus
- 1:55:42Speaker 2: and the two Lanes who are good football teams, but
- 1:55:44Speaker 2: they're not competitive from a winning a national championship. I
- 1:55:48Speaker 2: think the easiest and clearest way in.
- 1:55:50Speaker 1: This Hey, shout out to Caleb B. Ingram teared talk.
- 1:55:52Speaker 1: He did want us to break down how we would
- 1:55:54Speaker 1: fix the college football Okay, so.
- 1:55:55Speaker 2: Okay, well here we are, Kaylee b Ingram to me
- 1:55:59Speaker 2: and this was not my opinion. This is opinion that
- 1:56:01Speaker 2: was given to me that I'm not saying, like that
- 1:56:02Speaker 2: sounds really a well way to do it is, Josh
- 1:56:05Speaker 2: pay goes, why not make it? You have to be
- 1:56:08Speaker 2: ranked in the top fifteen to be in the Cullegeur
- 1:56:10Speaker 2: Role Playoff.
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: You have to be a top.
- 1:56:11Speaker 2: Fifteen team to even be into it. Now you don't
- 1:56:14Speaker 2: get into this JMU two lane World, Miami Notre Dame.
- 1:56:18Speaker 2: Like now you're kind of sniffing out these are the
- 1:56:21Speaker 2: best teams because I believe in somebody's correct me if
- 1:56:25Speaker 2: I'm wrong, you can't leave out a G five team
- 1:56:30Speaker 2: in the Coullegeur Role Playoff. Im my correct in that
- 1:56:33Speaker 2: you're not allowed. It's literally legislation has to be changed.
- 1:56:36Speaker 2: If something has to happen from a government standpoint, that's
- 1:56:38Speaker 2: way above me to get that finished. So and then
- 1:56:42Speaker 2: oh this is a good one too. There's jer talk
- 1:56:44Speaker 2: by d Moote sixty one, go ahead, will.
- 1:56:46Speaker 1: I was gonna say to add to that too. In
- 1:56:48Speaker 1: my opinion, you do away with championship weekend because I
- 1:56:52Speaker 1: know big time money, but I loved listening to Kirby's
- 1:56:56Speaker 1: smart breakdown his even argument for he knows he wants,
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: but he also did some he also did some work
- 1:57:03Speaker 1: for the SEC. So for Bama in this situation, he's like,
- 1:57:05Speaker 1: you guys, they're SEC is gonna have to play nine
- 1:57:08Speaker 1: conference games. He's like, you guys, just witnessed a ninth
- 1:57:11Speaker 1: game in the SEC. Everybody's gonna be going through the
- 1:57:14Speaker 1: nine conference games, and the SEC is deeper than everybody else.
- 1:57:17Speaker 1: And he's like, then you're just gonna get if you
- 1:57:19Speaker 1: do a championship game, you're gonna get a tenth SEC game. Yeah,
- 1:57:22Speaker 1: and if nobody, like, if nobody's going to if these
- 1:57:25Speaker 1: games don't mean anything, like if Bama gets worked like
- 1:57:28Speaker 1: that and nothing happens ranking wise, nothing really happens ranking
- 1:57:31Speaker 1: wise for you know, Big twelve everywhere else. It's like,
- 1:57:34Speaker 1: why not just throw away conference championship weekend, Get the
- 1:57:37Speaker 1: playoff started earlier, get it done by a New Year's.
- 1:57:40Speaker 8: I think yeah, I think yeah, exactly, make conference championship
- 1:57:45Speaker 8: playing weekend. You have the spots ten, eleven, and twelve open,
- 1:57:48Speaker 8: and then you have six teams. Those those three winners
- 1:57:51Speaker 8: are now you're ten, eleventh, and twelve.
- 1:57:53Speaker 1: Dog.
- 1:57:53Speaker 2: I would absolutely love that like that. Yeah, I love it.
- 1:57:57Speaker 1: That is I feel like that now right, there's money everybody.
- 1:58:00Speaker 2: That that's when everywhere. However, but now you're splitting money
- 1:58:03Speaker 2: right because you have ACC playing Big Big ten, who's
- 1:58:06Speaker 2: playing Big twelve? Places s seat. Now all these conferences
- 1:58:09Speaker 2: are getting a bite at the apple as opposed to
- 1:58:10Speaker 2: their own apple alone, like the SEC Championship, Big ten Championship.
- 1:58:14Speaker 2: I listen, if we're talking about purity of the game.
- 1:58:16Speaker 2: I love everything we all just said, but we all
- 1:58:18Speaker 2: know the powers it be. It's all about that the
- 1:58:20Speaker 2: naro that ends up happening. That's why Bowl games are
- 1:58:23Speaker 2: still happening. I'm gonna I'll touch on this real quick
- 1:58:25Speaker 2: because I know we've already moved past the subject. I
- 1:58:27Speaker 2: have zero issue with Notre Dame taking their ball and
- 1:58:30Speaker 2: going home.
- 1:58:31Speaker 1: Zero.
- 1:58:31Speaker 2: I think Bowl games are done. I told G last
- 1:58:35Speaker 2: year what alabim playing Mission. I was like, bro, this
- 1:58:37Speaker 2: game didn't matter. Like we won and that was great,
- 1:58:39Speaker 2: but like half your team sat out and a bun
- 1:58:42Speaker 2: and less of our guys sat out than your guys,
- 1:58:43Speaker 2: and the weather happened to work out for us. I
- 1:58:45Speaker 2: don't care. The most important thing for Bowl games for
- 1:58:48Speaker 2: me are those fifteen practices because you get your set
- 1:58:51Speaker 2: your kids that early in roll, you get to get
- 1:58:53Speaker 2: them into an extra fifteen day practices, and now you're
- 1:58:55Speaker 2: looking towards the next year. Yes, I feel bad for
- 1:58:58Speaker 2: the marching bam and the baton girls and the cheerleaders,
- 1:59:01Speaker 2: everybody who's like, oh shit, yeah, seniors who are like,
- 1:59:03Speaker 2: oh shit, that's my last year, that was my last
- 1:59:06Speaker 2: game and I didn't even know it. My heart does
- 1:59:08Speaker 2: go out to them for that. But from a competitive standpoint,
- 1:59:12Speaker 2: there's zero like the days of like Vanderbilt, the way
- 1:59:17Speaker 2: they took the any time any place, anywhere, like that
- 1:59:20Speaker 2: whole thought process that is now, that is Caveman thought process.
- 1:59:25Speaker 2: We're in the world of how do we get into
- 1:59:28Speaker 2: the college World Playoff if we're not in the cullege
- 1:59:30Speaker 2: role playoff? How do we make our team better through
- 1:59:32Speaker 2: the transfer portal and recruiting process to get to the
- 1:59:34Speaker 2: culgeur wrole Playoff. None of these coaches give a shit.
- 1:59:37Speaker 2: They probably do give a shit, but no one who
- 1:59:40Speaker 2: is an actual competitive team like in Notre Dame City
- 1:59:42Speaker 2: outside or like a Texas that are like in that
- 1:59:45Speaker 2: we should have been in the playoffs. We have a
- 1:59:47Speaker 2: argument in our mind that we truly believe we should
- 1:59:48Speaker 2: be in the playoffs. No one, they don't give a
- 1:59:51Speaker 2: shit about the ball game. They want to look to
- 1:59:53Speaker 2: next year to get into sar talk about the ball game.
- 1:59:55Speaker 2: What he said, he was all these gratitude.
- 1:59:57Speaker 1: He's all about. They can't wait to go out there
- 1:59:58Speaker 1: and compete against a team like Michigan.
- 1:59:59Speaker 2: I love That's great. That's that's perfectly said to the
- 2:00:02Speaker 2: to the public. You should absolutely said it about it too.
- 2:00:06Speaker 2: I love that that's all. That's what That's what Vanderbilt
- 2:00:08Speaker 2: should absolutely say. I'm saying the shit doesn't matter anymore,
- 2:00:11Speaker 2: and we all know it doesn't matter anymore.
- 2:00:12Speaker 11: You had so many teams drop out of ball games
- 2:00:16Speaker 11: that nine, five and seven teams were offered bowl games
- 2:00:20Speaker 11: and nine said no until Appalachian State said yes, that's crazy.
- 2:00:25Speaker 1: Crazy.
- 2:00:26Speaker 2: The world's changing. College football is changing now. You can
- 2:00:29Speaker 2: let we can let the snowball effect continue to take
- 2:00:31Speaker 2: place where it just gets bigger and bigger and worse
- 2:00:33Speaker 2: and worse, to where the actual product itself itself goes downhill,
- 2:00:37Speaker 2: or we can fix it the ESPN this wee can
- 2:00:39Speaker 2: get last week and get up Josh Pat the way
- 2:00:41Speaker 2: he was talking about the biggest problem is the schedule.
- 2:00:44Speaker 2: That's how you fix most of this. You can still
- 2:00:47Speaker 2: play your bowl games and have all that have fun
- 2:00:49Speaker 2: kids that are outside the playoffs, but like playing games
- 2:00:53Speaker 2: would have happened this past weekend, the first round is
- 2:00:56Speaker 2: coming up this Saturday.
- 2:00:58Speaker 1: I love to play in.
- 2:00:59Speaker 2: I love this December football, Dame, I love December, all
- 2:01:02Speaker 2: cult football. Jan one, we're finding out who are national champions.
- 2:01:05Speaker 10: Bowl games are they don't mean anything. You take those
- 2:01:09Speaker 10: like Mitch just saying those teams that are on that bubble.
- 2:01:13Speaker 10: This play in weekend is now sponsored by those bowls.
- 2:01:17Speaker 10: So like your Sugar Bowl whatever, those big rosebaying. So
- 2:01:21Speaker 10: you still get that to narrow that you're talking about,
- 2:01:23Speaker 10: have a chance for the play in. You try and
- 2:01:25Speaker 10: make everyone happy by getting competition on the field to
- 2:01:29Speaker 10: fight for a chance at the playoff. Also, you have
- 2:01:32Speaker 10: all those major companies that sponsored bowl, the big bowl
- 2:01:35Speaker 10: games make their to narrow. I just don't know why
- 2:01:39Speaker 10: we're not moving towards that. Maybe they will and I agree.
- 2:01:42Speaker 10: Going to more teams, you're gonna run into an issue
- 2:01:45Speaker 10: where Okay, so now you want the twenty fourth best
- 2:01:48Speaker 10: team right in Well that's happening.
- 2:01:51Speaker 2: Right now with JMU.
- 2:01:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:01:52Speaker 7: The viewership I think on these two will be you
- 2:01:55Speaker 7: can make money.
- 2:01:57Speaker 2: People. Could you imagine teams playing for their the I
- 2:02:00Speaker 2: mean college football is exactly what this is, but you're
- 2:02:03Speaker 2: playing for your winning get in good.
- 2:02:07Speaker 8: Yeah, any college any college football fan would love to
- 2:02:10Speaker 8: watch those games rather than like the fucking random ass
- 2:02:14Speaker 8: Bowl that nobody give gives a shit about.
- 2:02:16Speaker 2: Imagine watching Miami versus Texas.
- 2:02:18Speaker 7: Like imagine watching Van Diy versus b y.
- 2:02:21Speaker 2: U Fanny verse six rematch. But I'm thinking about the
- 2:02:23Speaker 2: you know, different conference. Yeah, like the thought of like
- 2:02:26Speaker 2: other teams playing each other neutral site. That's a neutral
- 2:02:29Speaker 2: site right then the next I think the next two
- 2:02:31Speaker 2: weeks after that need to be whoever the higher seat is?
- 2:02:34Speaker 2: That to me fires me up. Have your national championship
- 2:02:37Speaker 2: in a neutral site location that is always in forever
- 2:02:39Speaker 2: will be fair to me. Yeah, ye I does anybody
- 2:02:44Speaker 2: see any holes in that common section? You need to
- 2:02:47Speaker 2: speak up because just kind of spit it.
- 2:02:49Speaker 1: There where we're we're in a spot we will never
- 2:02:52Speaker 1: forget this year of the bracket that the college foot
- 2:02:54Speaker 1: will playoff. I think it's going to create an urgency
- 2:02:56Speaker 1: to fix some things going on. Uh yeah, dude, chaos.
- 2:03:02Speaker 2: Chaos.
- 2:03:03Speaker 1: He got clarkly here. That's no one, no one's fault
- 2:03:05Speaker 1: except our own. We had our opportunities and we didn't
- 2:03:07Speaker 1: do enough. We're not victims in this process. Our ownership
- 2:03:10Speaker 1: is in coming up short.
- 2:03:12Speaker 2: Listen clark Lee, like that quote right there, that's exactly
- 2:03:15Speaker 2: what you want in that building. I don't have im
- 2:03:19Speaker 2: well he you don't give a shit about ball games,
- 2:03:21Speaker 2: like we're gonna you guys can play, Guys will sit
- 2:03:24Speaker 2: out or not sit out. But we had it even that.
- 2:03:27Speaker 2: The product of the product of bowl games are crazy too,
- 2:03:29Speaker 2: because all the players, all the players that are going
- 2:03:32Speaker 2: to go to the draft, the play the thing that
- 2:03:33Speaker 2: you buy a ticket or I can't wait to watch
- 2:03:35Speaker 2: this player play. Well, that player that's playing, he's not there.
- 2:03:37Speaker 2: He's going to be in the portal or he's going
- 2:03:40Speaker 2: to be going to the draft.
- 2:03:40Speaker 10: I think the coolest part about the clark Lee statement
- 2:03:43Speaker 10: is it came after Notre Dame took their ball and
- 2:03:46Speaker 10: went home.
- 2:03:47Speaker 1: I'm telling you this is a massive war going on
- 2:03:50Speaker 1: with conferences and Notre Dame's independence. Yeah, yeah, I agree
- 2:03:54Speaker 1: with that, because if you if you take if we're
- 2:03:56Speaker 1: if say we're in the scope right now and we're
- 2:03:58Speaker 1: talking about Clark Lee's quote coming out after Notre Dame.
- 2:04:01Speaker 1: Let's make this about Clark Lee him being in a
- 2:04:04Speaker 1: conference in Notre Dame, because Notre Dame is continuing to
- 2:04:07Speaker 1: fight for their independence. Because every person who's mad bring
- 2:04:10Speaker 1: up the tier talk. Shuream, we have a tier talk
- 2:04:13Speaker 1: here from d d MO at sixty one. Notre Dame
- 2:04:18Speaker 1: can join a conference or shut the fuck up hashtag
- 2:04:20Speaker 1: tier talk again. Anybody who can be in Notre Dame's
- 2:04:23Speaker 1: position to have their independence, they would want that. And
- 2:04:25Speaker 1: what everybody that's part of a conference is doing is
- 2:04:27Speaker 1: being like, hey, this is how you get punished when
- 2:04:29Speaker 1: you're not being in a conference. Because take Vanderbilt. If
- 2:04:31Speaker 1: Vanderbilt had Notre Dame's record, schedule everything, and they're part
- 2:04:35Speaker 1: of I know they played a bunch of ACC teams
- 2:04:38Speaker 1: or whatever else, but if Andy had that resume, Vanderbilt
- 2:04:41Speaker 1: would be going in because they wouldn't have lost Obama,
- 2:04:43Speaker 1: they wouldn't have lost to Texas like they'd be out there.
- 2:04:45Speaker 1: We lost one point to Texas A and m we
- 2:04:46Speaker 1: lost to a tough Miami team. They would be in
- 2:04:49Speaker 1: like in that situation, if it's not Notre Dame and
- 2:04:51Speaker 1: somebody in a conference, those teams are getting that team
- 2:04:53Speaker 1: would get in the way. Notre Dame finished on a
- 2:04:55Speaker 1: ten win winning streak.
- 2:04:56Speaker 10: Notre Dame ideally has the right situation, right, But they,
- 2:05:00Speaker 10: like you're saying, are getting punished for it.
- 2:05:02Speaker 5: Right.
- 2:05:02Speaker 1: It's like they're they're on the wrong side of it,
- 2:05:04Speaker 1: get getting pushed out of it. Be like, hey man,
- 2:05:07Speaker 1: you're not part of a conference there, and Notre Dame
- 2:05:09Speaker 1: should if they're want to keep their independence, they're trying
- 2:05:11Speaker 1: to do the right thing strategically to continue to hold
- 2:05:14Speaker 1: their conference and not bend the knee on joining one. Yeah,
- 2:05:17Speaker 1: all right, listen, you're taking us out of the playoffs.
- 2:05:19Speaker 1: We all know it was absolute bullshit, and we're gonna
- 2:05:22Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna to sit out of our bowl game.
- 2:05:24Speaker 1: We're going to know that we had this this uh
- 2:05:27Speaker 1: part of a contract sign that gets if we're part
- 2:05:29Speaker 1: of the top twelve. We're gonna get an automatic bid
- 2:05:31Speaker 1: that we have a very easy schedule next season. Because
- 2:05:33Speaker 1: they do, they're gonna sit there and talk, shit, we're
- 2:05:35Speaker 1: gonna kill everybody that's in our way, Like, yeah, you
- 2:05:37Speaker 1: got an easier schedule, they have it set up. I
- 2:05:40Speaker 1: understand people hating Notre Dame. I understand the argument for
- 2:05:42Speaker 1: Notre Dame. It's a there is a bigger war going
- 2:05:44Speaker 1: on with all this conference to what happens.
- 2:05:46Speaker 2: Bigger war looks like you found out what the war was.
- 2:05:49Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we're breaking it down a little bit. I'll
- 2:05:51Speaker 1: keep diving into my reddit, to my reddit language later
- 2:05:54Speaker 1: on to figure next year.
- 2:05:56Speaker 5: Now that.
- 2:05:58Speaker 10: Using Texas Ohio State, for example, that first game of
- 2:06:00Speaker 10: the year, no one's going to schedule that anymore.
- 2:06:02Speaker 2: Well, he actually has talked about that. He said, we're
- 2:06:05Speaker 2: gonna honor our games with Ohio State and Michigan because
- 2:06:08Speaker 2: I mean they went up north and played both us, Like, yeah,
- 2:06:10Speaker 2: bring your asses down here to Austin, Texas. Now they's
- 2:06:13Speaker 2: gonna honor those two. After that, there's no promises, which
- 2:06:15Speaker 2: is a bad thing for football. It's a bad thing
- 2:06:18Speaker 2: for football, but it's it's an understandable strategic move, and
- 2:06:22Speaker 2: it seemed like Nebraska's a little ahead of themselves also
- 2:06:24Speaker 2: because we sat here, what June July when Nebraska's like,
- 2:06:26Speaker 2: we're not playing Tennessee in the regular season, Like why
- 2:06:29Speaker 2: would you? Why would you make it harder on yourself?
- 2:06:31Speaker 2: If you have a logo and a conference that'll be like,
- 2:06:34Speaker 2: we're gonna get in.
- 2:06:35Speaker 10: So when that happens in Notre Dame is the twelfth team,
- 2:06:40Speaker 10: like the what if they're not the twelfth team because
- 2:06:42Speaker 10: now Ohio State's playing ECU instead of Texas.
- 2:06:47Speaker 2: And so the or Texas is playing a smart team Exactly.
- 2:06:51Speaker 10: The stronger teams in a conference aren't going to have
- 2:06:55Speaker 10: that chance to drop one extra one. So Notre Dame,
- 2:06:59Speaker 10: you can play sam for like you're gonna play all
- 2:07:01Speaker 10: these teams, so not gonna help you against It's not gonna.
- 2:07:06Speaker 1: In n IU, Yeah, yeah, Northern Island.
- 2:07:08Speaker 10: The resume is not gonna help you get in that
- 2:07:10Speaker 10: twelve spot.
- 2:07:11Speaker 1: True. Now we're Notre Dames sitting at now like in
- 2:07:13Speaker 1: the AP they're in the top ten college rankings, they're
- 2:07:16Speaker 1: in the what were they who knows either way? The
- 2:07:18Speaker 1: first went out whatever? Uh by opting out of a
- 2:07:21Speaker 1: bowl game, they have they're not risking anything on having
- 2:07:24Speaker 1: a bad performance, So that way they'll go into the
- 2:07:27Speaker 1: rankings next year preseason with the loaded roster, one of
- 2:07:29Speaker 1: the best recruiting classes year and in year out. They're
- 2:07:31Speaker 1: gonna be their position with an easier schedule. They take
- 2:07:33Speaker 1: care of that schedule. I mean, they're they're clearly gonna
- 2:07:35Speaker 1: be in Here's what Notre Dame as they will if
- 2:07:38Speaker 1: their positioned in like the top twelve coming out of
- 2:07:40Speaker 1: the gate in season and then they win all of
- 2:07:42Speaker 1: their games like they're not gonna So.
- 2:07:45Speaker 10: You would put a Notre Dame, say they had one
- 2:07:48Speaker 10: loss next year one loss, Notre Dames schedule in or
- 2:07:53Speaker 10: rank them higher than an SEC Big ten team with
- 2:07:58Speaker 10: two losses.
- 2:07:59Speaker 1: I have no clue.
- 2:08:00Speaker 2: It depends where. It depends where they start and the
- 2:08:03Speaker 2: A people, it depends who they lost to. Here's what
- 2:08:07Speaker 2: Notre Dame is going to in a Notre Dame hood, right,
- 2:08:09Speaker 2: because if Notre Dame ops out and have the big
- 2:08:11Speaker 2: recruiting class of a bunch of guys coming back, obviously
- 2:08:13Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love is probably know the NFL. If they're going
- 2:08:16Speaker 2: to be ranked in the top ten and their schedule
- 2:08:18Speaker 2: is very easy next year, then yeah, it's in their hands.
- 2:08:21Speaker 2: What is going to be an issue is if Notre
- 2:08:23Speaker 2: Dame ever plays a difficult schedule and they have themselves
- 2:08:26Speaker 2: sitting in that thirteen to twelve area, and if this
- 2:08:29Speaker 2: war is still going on the way we think the
- 2:08:30Speaker 2: war's going on, then you bet your ass the Committee's
- 2:08:33Speaker 2: gonna have them at thirteen.
- 2:08:34Speaker 1: People are saying for Notre Dame to get back at
- 2:08:37Speaker 1: whatever again, whatever war they are fighting right now, they
- 2:08:40Speaker 1: would try and hurt the ACC by scheduling games some
- 2:08:44Speaker 1: with the Big ten because of their rights and everything else.
- 2:08:46Speaker 1: I have no clue, but people are talking about all
- 2:08:49Speaker 1: the strategy Notre Dame is looking at doing currently since
- 2:08:52Speaker 1: they've been pushed out of the play.
- 2:08:53Speaker 11: Their schedule next year is horrendous. By the way, the
- 2:08:55Speaker 11: two best teams they are playing are Miami and USC.
- 2:09:00Speaker 11: You could argue for s m U.
- 2:09:03Speaker 6: I feel like the question people aren't asking is since
- 2:09:06Speaker 6: when do Catholics pull out?
- 2:09:14Speaker 2: Hey? I got so blindsided by that.
- 2:09:16Speaker 1: I know, I thought he was gonna have some serious
- 2:09:17Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, a different perspective. Damn, I
- 2:09:19Speaker 1: can't wait to hear what this is and listen to
- 2:09:23Speaker 1: everybody we can't use contraceptives.
- 2:09:26Speaker 2: What are we doing here?
- 2:09:27Speaker 1: Yeah? That is that's funny.
- 2:09:28Speaker 7: Jack.
- 2:09:31Speaker 1: Another thing two people are talking about was how the
- 2:09:34Speaker 1: Tuesday Show of dropping the rankings every week kind of like,
- 2:09:37Speaker 1: you know, looking back on it, it's like, hey, you
- 2:09:39Speaker 1: should have just done away with the Tuesday Rankings show
- 2:09:42Speaker 1: because had we known nothing and sleucch and Sunday happened yesterday,
- 2:09:46Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would have been surprised that Miami
- 2:09:49Speaker 1: would have clipped Notre Dame.
- 2:09:50Speaker 2: That will not happen because of money.
- 2:09:53Speaker 1: It's just true.
- 2:09:54Speaker 2: If you're gonna have every Tuesday like for the last
- 2:09:56Speaker 2: three four weeks, everybody does not.
- 2:09:58Speaker 1: Like waited for Tuesdays, every minute of it.
- 2:10:01Speaker 2: Spoiler. I did not watch one, but I'm sure a
- 2:10:04Speaker 2: lot of people out there are like, oh man, I
- 2:10:06Speaker 2: gotta fucking see. I'm just waiting for the little graft
- 2:10:08Speaker 2: to come out by oh shit.
- 2:10:09Speaker 3: You know.
- 2:10:09Speaker 11: Yeah, well then it brings out the whole tinfoil hat
- 2:10:12Speaker 11: discussion of this playoff essentially being owned by ESPN. ESPN's
- 2:10:18Speaker 11: hands on the conferences, a lot of people are saying,
- 2:10:21Speaker 11: if Virginia Hat beat Duke Virginia's in Notre Dame is
- 2:10:25Speaker 11: in as well Virginia because they need a ACC because
- 2:10:32Speaker 11: ACC would have I mean, Hell would have broken loose.
- 2:10:35Speaker 11: So they're like, what is the less of all the evils.
- 2:10:38Speaker 11: Piss off Alabama, piss off Notre Dame, or piss off
- 2:10:41Speaker 11: the ACC. Let's piss off the independent conference or the
- 2:10:44Speaker 11: independent team that we have been trying to bully into
- 2:10:48Speaker 11: joining a conference. And not just ESPN, Fox as well.
- 2:10:51Speaker 11: A lot of these conferences are wanting Notre Dame to
- 2:10:53Speaker 11: join their conference.
- 2:10:55Speaker 1: It's and what network is the ACC partnered with?
- 2:10:58Speaker 2: ESPN? No, no, no, it's just it's we did the
- 2:11:03Speaker 2: old cast.
- 2:11:04Speaker 1: You talk like this, I'm just saying, man, I gotta be.
- 2:11:06Speaker 2: But that's what people are arguing is that this excuse me,
- 2:11:09Speaker 2: Bob Bigger. I want to apologize for Confident the things
- 2:11:12Speaker 2: that he have said.
- 2:11:13Speaker 1: We love the CFP.
- 2:11:14Speaker 2: His opinions are not mine. But yeah, that's crazy, but
- 2:11:18Speaker 2: it is.
- 2:11:18Speaker 11: It is crazy, And a lot of people are saying
- 2:11:20Speaker 11: that ownership it either needs to be by multiple entities
- 2:11:25Speaker 11: so that there's not this kind of behind the curtain
- 2:11:28Speaker 11: conversation that the public is then never privy to and
- 2:11:31Speaker 11: they won't ever come out and say, hey, b Yu
- 2:11:34Speaker 11: was never gonna make it.
- 2:11:35Speaker 10: They'll never have an explanation of why, and.
- 2:11:37Speaker 1: Say they having a SEC representative was never part of
- 2:11:41Speaker 1: the conversation. Oh, it's like, come on.
- 2:11:46Speaker 10: Notre Dame instead of like a JMU or two lane.
- 2:11:50Speaker 1: But I can't.
- 2:11:52Speaker 10: But like, if you're gonna, now's the time to fucking rewrite, right.
- 2:11:57Speaker 1: But I'm saying, if they were to do that, like
- 2:11:58Speaker 1: that is actually it's a lee.
- 2:12:00Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I kept saying. Josh Pay. Josh Pay
- 2:12:02Speaker 2: kept telling me that this is actually illegal. The rule.
- 2:12:06Speaker 8: The rule is the five highest ranked conference champs and
- 2:12:09Speaker 8: that's where those two fall in is because of them,
- 2:12:11Speaker 8: and like that's the rule. That's legal. But it's also
- 2:12:16Speaker 8: like in legal writing that at least one g G
- 2:12:18Speaker 8: five has to come.
- 2:12:19Speaker 1: I think committee is absolutely. So everybody is like, yes,
- 2:12:22Speaker 1: this kind of sucks that we have two G five's
- 2:12:24Speaker 1: in this college.
- 2:12:25Speaker 2: It does. But when they get mopped, and I hope
- 2:12:27Speaker 2: they do no disrespect to the G fives, I hope
- 2:12:29Speaker 2: they get fucking mopped so we can all just sit
- 2:12:32Speaker 2: there and be like, Kay, let's time to change legislation
- 2:12:35Speaker 2: because here's what the G fives and I know, I
- 2:12:37Speaker 2: guess I've caught a lot of heat from the Jurassic
- 2:12:40Speaker 2: Park thing. And it's like the opinion doesn't change, like
- 2:12:43Speaker 2: the truth. The truth doesn't care about your feelings in
- 2:12:45Speaker 2: the situation, like your schools aren't built to compete with
- 2:12:48Speaker 2: the top twelve teams in college football.
- 2:12:50Speaker 1: They aren't.
- 2:12:51Speaker 2: And the world we live in now, you're a stepping
- 2:12:52Speaker 2: stone school to get to the next place. G fives
- 2:12:55Speaker 2: are holding on to Boise State versus Oklahoma, Fiesta Ble,
- 2:13:00Speaker 2: that's what they're holding on to. And if a G
- 2:13:03Speaker 2: five is undefeated and they're mopping all the teams in
- 2:13:05Speaker 2: their conference, hell yeah, put them in. This seems like
- 2:13:07Speaker 2: the team they can actually make a little bit of dent.
- 2:13:09Speaker 2: Let's see what happens. Then put them in. Absolutely, but
- 2:13:12Speaker 2: to happen, huh year was good?
- 2:13:16Speaker 1: What happened to them.
- 2:13:17Speaker 7: I mean, they didn't get blown out by Penn State,
- 2:13:19Speaker 7: but they obviously lost.
- 2:13:20Speaker 2: There was never in question.
- 2:13:22Speaker 1: But they earned their way up there, and they were
- 2:13:24Speaker 1: ranked a certain way to where they're only metrics of
- 2:13:27Speaker 1: like being in the College Football player.
- 2:13:29Speaker 8: Boise States only lost it last year was like by
- 2:13:31Speaker 8: three points to Oregon. Yeah, they had the best player
- 2:13:35Speaker 8: in college football with Ashan Genty. So like I feel
- 2:13:37Speaker 8: like last year Boise State was warranted to be in it.
- 2:13:40Speaker 1: This year, yeah, G five is like undefeated or whatever.
- 2:13:45Speaker 1: They're in the top fifteen. They've like earned their way
- 2:13:47Speaker 1: into the College Wable playoffs. But doing it this year
- 2:13:49Speaker 1: just feels like it's like, Okay, let's put the champion
- 2:13:52Speaker 1: of the CFL now gets to be the last seed
- 2:13:54Speaker 1: in the NFL playoffs. They get an automatic bid to
- 2:13:58Speaker 1: the to the NFL playoffs.
- 2:14:01Speaker 11: It would be fun for that argument exactly two of
- 2:14:05Speaker 11: the playing games. That is a perfect excuse for the
- 2:14:08Speaker 11: playing games with those G five teams, and you have
- 2:14:11Speaker 11: some like fun storylines to follow and underdog story.
- 2:14:16Speaker 4: If you, if you guys are who you say you
- 2:14:18Speaker 4: are and you love chaos, you'd be rooting for the
- 2:14:20Speaker 4: G five teams to win in the playoff.
- 2:14:23Speaker 1: No, because ultimately I want the twelve best teams in
- 2:14:25Speaker 1: the college who will playoff.
- 2:14:27Speaker 2: You don't want chaos, No, we want kiss in the
- 2:14:29Speaker 2: sense that we're sitting here right now after the chaos
- 2:14:32Speaker 2: we've wanted to unfold. The reality is is like these
- 2:14:35Speaker 2: G fives we the chaos. We want well I'll speak
- 2:14:38Speaker 2: for me. The chaos that I want is for exactly
- 2:14:40Speaker 2: what happens so that change is made. Because at the
- 2:14:42Speaker 2: end of the day, I would love like the way
- 2:14:45Speaker 2: we just put together this playing thing we get we
- 2:14:48Speaker 2: get on mass championships on Jan. One, like that's college
- 2:14:51Speaker 2: football season. Then the portal opens Jan. Two, like, which
- 2:14:55Speaker 2: doesn't it already? The Church reportal, Yeah, start entering today. Basically, Buddy,
- 2:15:01Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see how this transfer portal takes
- 2:15:05Speaker 2: place as I.
- 2:15:05Speaker 1: Think about it, though, j JP, you might be onto something.
- 2:15:07Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like for any g fuss you know,
- 2:15:10Speaker 1: JMU two Lane, you're out there watching this right now.
- 2:15:12Speaker 1: Willis's kind of I'm here to get recruited. Make that run.
- 2:15:16Speaker 12: I'm not starts winning like they be Ole Miss, which
- 2:15:20Speaker 12: could happen. You know, Lane's gone and they make a
- 2:15:23Speaker 12: little run. You guys would hate that. Or no, no, no,
- 2:15:25Speaker 12: Lane wins their first game. I will be into Lane
- 2:15:28Speaker 12: gear the next week.
- 2:15:29Speaker 2: Hey, hey, same thing, same as that. Like, listen, I
- 2:15:33Speaker 2: don't think they have any business being in the playoff.
- 2:15:36Speaker 2: If either of these teams win, I am one hundred wrong.
- 2:15:40Speaker 2: Take all my opinions, throw in the trash and I
- 2:15:42Speaker 2: will also be in whatever gear wins, So keep the playoff.
- 2:15:45Speaker 1: The same way. Then if one of them wins, is
- 2:15:46Speaker 1: what you're saying.
- 2:15:47Speaker 2: No, we'll have that conversation later.
- 2:15:51Speaker 4: The only other thing that bothers me with like all
- 2:15:53Speaker 4: of the rule making of college football. I hate when
- 2:15:55Speaker 4: we that we have to sit here and say, oh no,
- 2:15:57Speaker 4: like it's it's written into law, we have to take
- 2:16:00Speaker 4: it to court. I'm like, why, man, this is college football?
- 2:16:05Speaker 2: Right?
- 2:16:05Speaker 4: Why what are we doing one even spending tax money
- 2:16:08Speaker 4: on like having this be something that we're that we're
- 2:16:12Speaker 4: paying for too. It's just like the greatness of college
- 2:16:15Speaker 4: football is in the power of the people, dude. It's
- 2:16:18Speaker 4: taking there, taking the power from the people.
- 2:16:20Speaker 2: There's so many things that are backwards. You're like, why
- 2:16:21Speaker 2: is the committee full of ads?
- 2:16:23Speaker 7: Right?
- 2:16:24Speaker 2: Like, it's like you have a bunch of ads who
- 2:16:27Speaker 2: I'm assuming some of them will probably working through coaching changes.
- 2:16:30Speaker 1: There's one who's on the committee. There's one very good one, dude.
- 2:16:38Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you're gonna tell me you're the ad of
- 2:16:41Speaker 2: a school your coach has left and you have to
- 2:16:43Speaker 2: hire a new coach. And then they're like, hey, do
- 2:16:44Speaker 2: you mind having taking five ten minutes, but all of
- 2:16:46Speaker 2: your energy into collegeball playoffs. That's crazy, dude, that's crazy.
- 2:16:51Speaker 2: You want twelve individuals and Josh Payton the room or
- 2:16:54Speaker 2: eleven individuals and Josh Papon.
- 2:16:55Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind if they kept Troy Dannon ad from Nebraska.
- 2:16:59Speaker 1: He's on the committee.
- 2:17:00Speaker 2: I think nothing. You need to have people that understand
- 2:17:02Speaker 2: all You need to have number people and people that
- 2:17:04Speaker 2: understand football. You need to put them into a room
- 2:17:06Speaker 2: and their sole focus is what is the best thing
- 2:17:10Speaker 2: for college football? Who are the most deserving and who
- 2:17:11Speaker 2: are the best teams to be the top twelve teams.
- 2:17:13Speaker 8: You can't be having these people that are fucking eighty
- 2:17:15Speaker 8: years old watching football as if they know what the
- 2:17:18Speaker 8: fuck is going on they could.
- 2:17:19Speaker 1: Let's not just take shots at all eighty year olds
- 2:17:21Speaker 1: out there, bro, Like there's some dudes who are sikos.
- 2:17:24Speaker 1: You didn't meet Josh Pai's dad. You didn't meet Josh
- 2:17:28Speaker 1: Pay's dad.
- 2:17:28Speaker 8: Like Josh paid is the way Josh paid is because
- 2:17:31Speaker 8: of Josh Paid's dad. Like, I'm sure he's a fucking legend. Yeah,
- 2:17:37Speaker 8: so what I'm saying these people here?
- 2:17:41Speaker 1: Yeah, so eighty year old like there could be some
- 2:17:43Speaker 1: cats that are still to understand what they're talking about. Listen,
- 2:17:45Speaker 1: some I would love to be in the room. I'd
- 2:17:48Speaker 1: love to be in the room with the comman.
- 2:17:49Speaker 2: Would love to sit there and have these types of
- 2:17:50Speaker 2: conversations like the commansion we're happening right now is how
- 2:17:54Speaker 2: I would hope the committee is having these types of
- 2:17:57Speaker 2: conversations right.
- 2:17:58Speaker 1: No, it's not.
- 2:17:58Speaker 2: They're looking at a computer screen that go, well, makes sense,
- 2:18:01Speaker 2: But our interests are X, Y and Z. Let's move
- 2:18:04Speaker 2: these two couple of things. Yes, and then you get
- 2:18:09Speaker 2: a couple of sickos like us to go sit in
- 2:18:11Speaker 2: the room and be like, hey, listen, this is what
- 2:18:13Speaker 2: the world wants. This is what the world needs.
- 2:18:15Speaker 4: It should take two or three days to like change
- 2:18:18Speaker 4: a rule in college football. Yeah, what's the worst thing
- 2:18:20Speaker 4: that happens? You mess up? Dang, we we missed on
- 2:18:23Speaker 4: a football game this year. Let's fix it.
- 2:18:26Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I don't get, Like, hey, like Duke wins,
- 2:18:32Speaker 1: and then immediately we'll just say group chat, the group
- 2:18:35Speaker 1: chat of the committee gets hit up. We got to
- 2:18:37Speaker 1: get a rule in over the next twenty four hours.
- 2:18:40Speaker 9: Works.
- 2:18:43Speaker 2: He's in They're so old I don't know the group
- 2:18:44Speaker 2: chat works.
- 2:18:45Speaker 1: Oh they don't know.
- 2:18:47Speaker 2: I mean, Mitch hate's old people. That's figured out on
- 2:18:50Speaker 2: this shows.
- 2:18:52Speaker 1: The average college football committee playoff committee is sixty one.
- 2:18:58Speaker 2: I don't think that's bad.
- 2:18:59Speaker 1: Again, I don't have I'm not disrespecting my elders whatsoever, Mitch.
- 2:19:03Speaker 1: If you want to disrespect your elders, going ahead.
- 2:19:06Speaker 2: You've you've already have. He've already crossed the lines.
- 2:19:09Speaker 1: These guys are like eighty in there.
- 2:19:11Speaker 2: Jeez, yeah, should we hit a couple of tear tungs?
- 2:19:15Speaker 2: Do we feel good? Is there any other things we
- 2:19:16Speaker 2: want to talk about as far as college football goes? Oh, clump,
- 2:19:20Speaker 2: go ahead with it. The Hey, first off, don't ever
- 2:19:23Speaker 2: raise your hand like that again. Man, like you wanted
- 2:19:25Speaker 2: something to say that you put that. He goes like this,
- 2:19:27Speaker 2: he goes, he hit the shoulder on me. It's like, buddy,
- 2:19:31Speaker 2: fucking put it up.
- 2:19:32Speaker 1: The Heisman trophy. We want to talk about that at all.
- 2:19:35Speaker 2: It should absolutely be Diego Povian.
- 2:19:39Speaker 1: It's gonna be hey, odds really shift into a fan,
- 2:19:42Speaker 1: no doubt to MEAA, but it's gonna be hard. If
- 2:19:47Speaker 1: you're a massive Mendoza fan and you saw that postgame interview.
- 2:19:50Speaker 1: Look at interviews.
- 2:19:52Speaker 2: Interview shouldn't win you a trophy.
- 2:19:53Speaker 12: Mendoza's stats are just disrespectful to the Heisman Trophy.
- 2:19:57Speaker 1: I think Mendoz is a great player. Interview. I agree.
- 2:19:59Speaker 12: I'm not disrespecting him in any way. But he is
- 2:20:02Speaker 12: on an elite football team, an elite coached football team.
- 2:20:05Speaker 12: They're top five and rushing, top five defense. He hasn't
- 2:20:09Speaker 12: even thrown for three thousand yards. He's gonna win the
- 2:20:11Speaker 12: Heisman Trophy. That is a disgrace to the Heisman Trophy.
- 2:20:14Speaker 1: It should absolutely be Diego Pavia.
- 2:20:17Speaker 2: Yeah, that's oh, here we go.
- 2:20:19Speaker 1: Stats.
- 2:20:19Speaker 12: Since November first, Diego Pavia has thrown for one fund
- 2:20:23Speaker 12: ninety four yards and twelve touchdowns. Fernando Mendoza has thrown
- 2:20:26Speaker 12: for one thousand, fifty seven yards and only nine touchdowns.
- 2:20:28Speaker 1: But that's not even I mean, we're that doesn't even
- 2:20:31Speaker 1: include the run game. Yeah, touchdowns and rush yards that
- 2:20:33Speaker 1: Diego has. It's crazy. And the way that Vandy has
- 2:20:36Speaker 1: just been playing as of late, it does suck that
- 2:20:37Speaker 1: they that they're not looking at a playoff opportunity.
- 2:20:41Speaker 10: So if Diego had one more game to prove himself
- 2:20:45Speaker 10: what do you think would have happened.
- 2:20:47Speaker 2: Right, that's a that's a great question, Like if the SEC,
- 2:20:50Speaker 2: if these championships, if these conference championships don't matter for
- 2:20:53Speaker 2: the playoffs, then we shouldn't have any weight in the
- 2:20:56Speaker 2: conference championship players playing in their stat line to go
- 2:20:59Speaker 2: into the Heisman Trophy. Correct, it should have stayed. Okay,
- 2:21:02Speaker 2: this is this is the sample size you have to
- 2:21:03Speaker 2: work with. Now we go in and give out the
- 2:21:06Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy. I agree, I think.
- 2:21:10Speaker 7: Dude.
- 2:21:10Speaker 2: I mean that's a great point, ge Like, if it
- 2:21:13Speaker 2: doesn't matter for the teams, what does it matter for
- 2:21:14Speaker 2: the individual player? Yeah, buddy, we fucking did it.
- 2:21:19Speaker 1: You could have the playing games too.
- 2:21:21Speaker 2: That's crazy to think, right, Like we really kind of
- 2:21:23Speaker 2: figured it out today.
- 2:21:24Speaker 5: Really hard playing.
- 2:21:26Speaker 12: Games, playing games need to games happened. Diego Pavi would
- 2:21:30Speaker 12: be another game for a chance to show that he's
- 2:21:32Speaker 12: the Heisman.
- 2:21:33Speaker 2: Trophy and his stats are already above and beyond everybody else's.
- 2:21:35Speaker 12: He has almost a thousand more yards than Mendoza, by
- 2:21:38Speaker 12: the way, totally yards.
- 2:21:42Speaker 1: We need that graphic made clump so we can continue
- 2:21:44Speaker 1: to push for Pavia.
- 2:21:45Speaker 12: Yeah again, I hate hating on Fernana Mendoza because I
- 2:21:49Speaker 12: actually think he's a good player. But against Oregon and
- 2:21:51Speaker 12: Ohio State, two hundred and eighteen yards passing, one touchdown,
- 2:21:54Speaker 12: one interception, his average against top teams, that's that's a
- 2:21:59Speaker 12: good thing.
- 2:22:00Speaker 1: Her downthrow though, let's give him.
- 2:22:01Speaker 2: The high and listen, we're talking about a Heisman Trophy winner,
- 2:22:04Speaker 2: like Fernanda Mendoza is a good football player, have a
- 2:22:06Speaker 2: very long career in the NFL. I have a lot
- 2:22:07Speaker 2: of respect for him. Hope some day he comes on
- 2:22:09Speaker 2: the bus. But if we're talking about who should win
- 2:22:11Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy, it's like this is a year where
- 2:22:14Speaker 2: we're talking about who, but we don't know. It's probably
- 2:22:16Speaker 2: gonna go to Fernando based on his odds. Right now,
- 2:22:18Speaker 2: it should just clearly be Diego's going to win this.
- 2:22:21Speaker 2: Clearly he's the guy that should win the Heisman Trophy.
- 2:22:23Speaker 12: Or if you want to get crazy, at least Jacob Rodriguez, like,
- 2:22:26Speaker 12: at least mix it up.
- 2:22:27Speaker 1: Yeah, like that to me would still be he.
- 2:22:29Speaker 2: Threw a couple of those iron ts though, right, Yeah,
- 2:22:31Speaker 2: that's where you gotta put him down. Then I gotta
- 2:22:33Speaker 2: put them down.
- 2:22:34Speaker 1: Put them quads, those quads, man.
- 2:22:40Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what. The reason why, the reason
- 2:22:42Speaker 2: why Diego is not gonna win. This has to do
- 2:22:44Speaker 2: with the logo, but it's also his process off the field,
- 2:22:47Speaker 2: the way he knows himself off the field. It hurts
- 2:22:50Speaker 2: him in this and that sucks to say it because
- 2:22:53Speaker 2: it should only matter what you do in the field.
- 2:22:58Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, Jack, Jack, who you got for the highest.
- 2:23:00Speaker 6: Fernando Mendoza, man my highs and winners, hugging women in wheelchairs.
- 2:23:05Speaker 9: The other guy flexing at USC yet again. So and
- 2:23:09Speaker 9: that good for him? I hope, I hope he has
- 2:23:11Speaker 9: a long pro.
- 2:23:11Speaker 6: I wish we were at the UFC this but look
- 2:23:16Speaker 6: there people are discrediting the rely Quest Bowl too, like
- 2:23:19Speaker 6: that's awesome for Vanderbilt, Like that's a huge game. So
- 2:23:22Speaker 6: congratulations toodores. Uh Tennessee's and the Music City Bowl.
- 2:23:30Speaker 1: One Music City Bowl. Yeah, we got it for the
- 2:23:34Speaker 1: game in.
- 2:23:35Speaker 9: Ten years, which is great. It'll be fun, but you know,
- 2:23:39Speaker 9: you guys, sucks for him.
- 2:23:41Speaker 1: Yeah, Nebraska is about to beat Utah's ass in Vegas.
- 2:23:44Speaker 1: Pre Nebraska making some moves now, are we going going
- 2:23:49Speaker 1: the coordinator? Yeah yeah, yeah, fired the old line coach
- 2:23:54Speaker 1: they got in Uh old buddy from Georgia Tech who's
- 2:23:58Speaker 1: been known to have some good offensive line.
- 2:24:00Speaker 12: Did you guys see James Franklin hired Brent Prye.
- 2:24:03Speaker 1: Back as the defensive coordinator.
- 2:24:04Speaker 12: Yeah, time he got fired, he was like emotional about
- 2:24:08Speaker 12: it because they coached together before when he took the job.
- 2:24:10Speaker 12: Franklin was emotional that they fired him because of what
- 2:24:12Speaker 12: he built there. So pretty cool that they brought him back.
- 2:24:14Speaker 1: Yeah, and cool too that they have a good enough
- 2:24:16Speaker 1: relationship him in the school coach probably in the school
- 2:24:19Speaker 1: that yeah, he's it was kind of probably an easy
- 2:24:22Speaker 1: transition for him to go back.
- 2:24:23Speaker 2: Dude, vaw Tech. I'll tell you what's gonna happen to
- 2:24:27Speaker 2: Like h with Penn State, Like we're gonna look back
- 2:24:29Speaker 2: in two three years with the signing, the class that
- 2:24:32Speaker 2: they've had with they sounded like two guys that stayed
- 2:24:34Speaker 2: there in the hundreds. As far as recruiting class, they
- 2:24:36Speaker 2: fell off a cliff. Virginia Tech took everybody. I can't
- 2:24:39Speaker 2: wait for three four years when those kids are seniors
- 2:24:41Speaker 2: and Penn State has found themselves back in the top
- 2:24:43Speaker 2: twenty five. And how cool of the story it's going
- 2:24:45Speaker 2: to be. What Matt Campbell has done with Penn State
- 2:24:48Speaker 2: and resurrecting them because it's gonna be bumpy for a
- 2:24:50Speaker 2: couple of years. Now, it's gonna be bumpy.
- 2:24:52Speaker 1: That was a good hire though, yeah, knowing that they
- 2:24:54Speaker 1: were kind of botching the entire thing.
- 2:24:56Speaker 2: Good hire. According to Josh Pate, do you.
- 2:24:58Speaker 1: Have any more tear talks and then we can wrap.
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- 2:25:21Speaker 1: Now that your four year prophecy has come true with
- 2:25:23Speaker 1: the Chiefs not making the playoffs, dynasty isn't over just
- 2:25:26Speaker 1: on the sabbatical. How many years will it be until
- 2:25:29Speaker 1: your prediction of Nebraska making the college football playoffs? No,
- 2:25:32Speaker 1: here we go.
- 2:25:36Speaker 2: Look there's schedules is a juggernaut.
- 2:25:40Speaker 1: Next year, we got a tough schedule next year. Let
- 2:25:42Speaker 1: all the blacksmiths, let all the common men know in
- 2:25:44Speaker 1: the village we're looking at, uh.
- 2:25:52Speaker 7: Yourself quite yet?
- 2:25:58Speaker 2: Ohio Bowling, Green, North Dakota, Indiana, Maryland, Ohio State, Washington, Illinois, Iowa,
- 2:26:04Speaker 2: Michigan State, Oregon, Rutgers run.
- 2:26:07Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be tough. I hear ears, you know
- 2:26:11Speaker 1: it'll probably be.
- 2:26:12Speaker 2: No, this is not an order. They haven't set the
- 2:26:13Speaker 2: schedule yet. This is the teams they play.
- 2:26:15Speaker 1: It'll be two years where we getting the college ball playoff,
- 2:26:17Speaker 1: because next year we'll go ten and two. We're gonna
- 2:26:19Speaker 1: get fuck somehow getting in the college football playoff based
- 2:26:21Speaker 1: on what just happened this year will probably the Vanderbilt
- 2:26:23Speaker 1: college football.
- 2:26:24Speaker 2: Next year I goes so hard and then the next
- 2:26:27Speaker 2: year will be our year. Can I give a prediction
- 2:26:32Speaker 2: for Michigan for Nebraska?
- 2:26:34Speaker 1: Oh God, here we go eight and four incoming? Not
- 2:26:37Speaker 1: even maybe not even eight and four. Go ahead, Shit
- 2:26:39Speaker 1: on us.
- 2:26:39Speaker 2: I'm not just shutting on you guys.
- 2:26:42Speaker 1: Shit on us. Dude, don't even know why I'm wearing
- 2:26:43Speaker 1: these headphones.
- 2:26:44Speaker 2: Still, Okay, Go up, go up, go up, go up,
- 2:26:49Speaker 2: go down, go down, go down, go down. Yeah. I
- 2:26:53Speaker 2: want twenty six. I want twenty six. A lot of
- 2:26:59Speaker 2: us marks with Nebraska's roster going into this offseason. Indiana,
- 2:27:04Speaker 2: Ohio State, go down, Oregon. Eight and four. Yeah, I
- 2:27:17Speaker 2: think eight and four is the floor for Nebraska. That's
- 2:27:22Speaker 2: the floor. Like as you look at Indiana. We gotta assume, right,
- 2:27:25Speaker 2: Ohio State's always a top dog Oregon and then to me,
- 2:27:29Speaker 2: it's like, well, Iowa, you have to at this point,
- 2:27:33Speaker 2: it's like, bro until until they do, you gotta just assume.
- 2:27:37Speaker 2: And so like, I think it's gonna be big if
- 2:27:40Speaker 2: you guys like Washington. Washington's a good ball club. Illinois,
- 2:27:43Speaker 2: they're a good ball club. That's true.
- 2:27:47Speaker 1: That is true.
- 2:27:50Speaker 2: So yeah, I think eight and four, eight and four,
- 2:27:52Speaker 2: and I think at the listen and I'm not even
- 2:27:55Speaker 2: fucking around. I want to be very serious, like that
- 2:27:59Speaker 2: is a hard funck schedule, right, I can see nine
- 2:28:02Speaker 2: to three, but I feel like it's a most likely
- 2:28:06Speaker 2: eight and four.
- 2:28:07Speaker 4: And is that?
- 2:28:08Speaker 2: Do you feel some type of way about me saying.
- 2:28:09Speaker 1: That I have no emotion? Okay, you talking about a brass.
- 2:28:15Speaker 2: Good feel great?
- 2:28:17Speaker 1: You end on that tear talk? Did we hear? I'm
- 2:28:22Speaker 1: assuming we kind of covered the tier talks you're scrolling through. Okay,
- 2:28:25Speaker 1: appreciate you guys for tuning in. Big hugs, tiny kisses.
- 2:28:28Speaker 1: We will be dropping busting with the boys tomorrow with
- 2:28:30Speaker 1: Coach ed or Jerono. Kiss to see you tomorrow morning.
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