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Full Show Podcast: 28 October 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: Early Edition with Spark for Business.
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  Speaker 2: Technology that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, welcome to Wednesday. Coming up on the show,
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  Speaker 2: the OCR, we've got an unlikely pundit jumping into the
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  Speaker 2: Hold Not Hike camp. Gavin's in the UK for us.
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  Speaker 2: These two guys arrested over a terror plot at the
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  Speaker 2: Air Force Base have been named. Labor's rent-to-buy scheme doesn't
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  Speaker 2: stack up. And will Netanyahu hold on to his job?
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  Speaker 2: We're live to Jerusalem.
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  Speaker 3: The agenda.
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday the 28th of October, big turnout in this Israeli election.
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  Speaker 4: I think there are hate to say it, criminal elements
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  Speaker 4: in the current Israeli government that need to be removed.
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  Speaker 4: where already over 100 prisoners were killed by torture, some
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  Speaker 4: of them by intentional starvation. I think at this moment
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  Speaker 4: I said, I just have to do whatever I can,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Two blocks, you've got to get 61 to win Netanyahu
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  Speaker 2: on what was essentially their coalition block of more right-wing
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  Speaker 2: or hardline ones. And then you've got Eisenkart, who is
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  Speaker 2: your let's get rid of Netanyahu vote, polling neck and neck.
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  Speaker 5: Earlier this morning, Benjamin Netanyahu voted here in Jerusalem along
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  Speaker 5: with his wife, Sarah. And a few hours afterwards, his
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  Speaker 5: chief rival, Gadi Eisenkot, cast his ballot along with his wife, Hannah.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of journalists were present at the scene. Gadi
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  Speaker 5: Eisenkot and his wife made a point of stopping by
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  Speaker 5: the grave of their son, who died along with two
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  Speaker 5: of their nephews in the Gaza war.
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  Speaker 2: Right, let's go to the UK, the Air Force base,
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  Speaker 2: the terror plot. Two British men, both aged 24, have
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  Speaker 2: been charged over this plot, which was to help Iran's
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  Speaker 2: intelligence service.
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  Speaker 6: We know that decisions made during our investigations can sometimes
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  Speaker 6: appear illogical to those on the outside. But I want
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  Speaker 6: to make it very clear that there will always be
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  Speaker 6: a good reason or rationale behind them. We will always
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  Speaker 6: ensure that should we identify any ongoing threat, we will
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  Speaker 6: manage that as part of the investigation.
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  Speaker 2: Now we've got some Europeans on the phone to Putin.
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  Speaker 2: This is first time in more than a year. Finland's president,
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  Speaker 2: Norway's prime minister. The call was described as frank. It
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  Speaker 2: comes as there is a truce that's begun in a
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  Speaker 2: Ukrainian city which has been under Russian occupation since 2022.
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  Speaker 2: It is pretty desperate.
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  Speaker 7: So we really welcome from NRC's perspective the announcement of
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  Speaker 7: the localized ceasefire. And we think it is a really
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  Speaker 7: positive step in the crisis.
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  Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's
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  Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business. Technology
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  Speaker 1: that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. 9292 is the number to text. We'd love
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  Speaker 2: to hear from you. So Shamabil Yarkob is your guy,
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  Speaker 2: because normally it's just Jared Kerr from Kiwibank who says, no,
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  Speaker 2: don't hike the OCR, just keep it as it is,
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  Speaker 2: otherwise you'll screw the pooch on our economic recovery. Well, yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: Sharma Bill Yarkop, well, actually, he said it last week,
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  Speaker 2: but it was reported yesterday. This was to the Investors
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  Speaker 2: Association New Zealand annual conference. I know, it sounds fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: But he said one of the big risks that the
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  Speaker 2: Reserve Bank, they are at risk of making the same
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  Speaker 2: mistake that they did after the GFC when they raised
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  Speaker 2: interest rates and they did that too early and they
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  Speaker 2: killed off the economic recovery. We're at risk of repeating
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  Speaker 2: that same mistake again, is what he is saying. And
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  Speaker 2: he points to the labour cost index, which is the
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  Speaker 2: Reserve Bank forecast over the course of the last decade.
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  Speaker 2: And he says, you look at that and the Reserve
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  Speaker 2: Bank says, just wait, labour costs are going to go up,
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  Speaker 2: labour costs are going to go up, because when you've
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  Speaker 2: got prices going up and when you've got inflation happening,
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  Speaker 2: then wages normally follow suit. You get the second round
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  Speaker 2: of inflation, what they talk about. Well, he says they've
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  Speaker 2: been wrong for the last six years that that would happen.
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  Speaker 2: So why would we believe that it would happen now?
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  Speaker 2: He also makes the interesting point about house prices, because
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  Speaker 2: interest rates are supposedly low at a, you know, they
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  Speaker 2: are at an expansion territory below 3%. But people aren't
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  Speaker 2: running out to get mortgages and buy houses and pushing
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  Speaker 2: prices up, are they? There's no queue at the bank.
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  Speaker 2: So his point is, if you do it now, then
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  Speaker 2: you risk the recovery, which is clearly starting to get underway.
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  Speaker 2: Unemployment is still high. Wages are not skyrocketing. Businesses are
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  Speaker 2: battling to pass on those costs. So is now the
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  Speaker 2: right time? We'll talk to Kelly Echold about that before
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  Speaker 2: top of the hour this morning. Also, how's Trevor Mallard's
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  Speaker 2: Trump-style voter suppression tweet ageing, do we think? Not very well.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at the numbers, this is from the
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  Speaker 2: Electoral Commission. So almost 70,000 people voted on the first
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  Speaker 2: day of voting in the New Zealand general election for 2026.
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  Speaker 2: And that is more than the 2023 election, which was 65,845.
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  Speaker 2: So if this is what voter suppression looks like, then
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  Speaker 2: 2023 was a doozy.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: Time is 11 minutes after five. Great to have your company.
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  Speaker 2: We're in Jerusalem for the Israeli election next.
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  Speaker 1: The first word on the news of the day. Early
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  Speaker 2: News Talk ZB. 13 after 5, another whoopsie from a
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  Speaker 2: Labour candidate on the campaign trail. This time it is
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  Speaker 2: the Auckland Central candidate, Naisi Chen, who has been told,
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  Speaker 2: just stick to your knitting on foreign policy, please. She's
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  Speaker 2: been doing posts on social media saying, and a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of other places. And this is all to Chinese-speaking voters,
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  Speaker 2: all in Mandarin, and has been apparently a little more
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  Speaker 2: pro-Beijing than the party would have liked. So she's been
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  Speaker 2: told to rein it in. This is according to reporting
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  Speaker 2: from The Post, which I found very interesting. So she
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  Speaker 2: was a Labour MP, now just a candidate, is currently
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  Speaker 2: ranked 34 on the party list. and probably won't get
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  Speaker 2: into Parliament on that basis, because Chloe Swarbrick's probably going
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  Speaker 2: to win Auckland Central, although I noticed that Candice Kinzer,
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  Speaker 2: I think her name is, the national candidate, is nipping
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  Speaker 2: at her heels in a poll. But there you go.
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  Speaker 2: More trouble on the campaign trail for one Christopher Hipkins,
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  Speaker 2: 14 after five. Speaking of polls, Israel going to the
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  Speaker 2: voting booth today. Turnout so far at record levels. You've
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  Speaker 2: got Netanyahu hoping to cling on to power. You've got
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  Speaker 2: a former military chief in Eisenkot who is nipping at
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  Speaker 2: his heels. Linda Gredstein, CBS Middle East correspondent in Jerusalem
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  Speaker 2: with us. Linda, how's it looking so far?
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  Speaker 8: Well, as you said, the turnout is really high and
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  Speaker 8: we don't know really the results. The polls have been
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  Speaker 8: showing that Eisenkot, the former general chief of staff who
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  Speaker 8: lost a son and two nephews in the war since
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  Speaker 8: October 7th, slightly ahead of Netanyahu, The question, though, is
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  Speaker 8: who will be able to form a coalition? And that
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  Speaker 8: will reach a majority of 61 out of 120 seats
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  Speaker 8: in the Knesset. And again, the polls show that the
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  Speaker 8: Eisencutt bloc or the bloc for change has 56, 55,
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  Speaker 8: 56 votes. The Netanyahu bloc, you know, for keeping Netanyahu
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  Speaker 8: in power has about 50. Now, the Arab citizens of Israel,
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  Speaker 8: who are about 20 percent, could put Eisenkot over the top. However,
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  Speaker 8: some of his partners have said that they will not
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  Speaker 8: be part of a government that includes Arab members of
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  Speaker 8: the Knesset. So it's really, we just don't know. It's
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  Speaker 8: going to depend on who can form a coalition. And
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  Speaker 8: if nobody can form a coalition, then Israel will go
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  Speaker 8: to another election, which has happened in the past as well.
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  Speaker 2: From what I've been reading so far, Linda, it seems
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  Speaker 2: very difficult to place, well, Netanyahu on one side with
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  Speaker 2: the far right and the ultra-Orthodox, you can probably place
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  Speaker 2: in a particular basket, but quite hard to place the
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  Speaker 2: other block. Is it basically just anyone, but let's get
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  Speaker 2: rid or change the government?
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  Speaker 8: Well, that's certainly part of it, but they also agree
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  Speaker 8: on other issues. For example, drafting the ultra-Orthodox, which is
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  Speaker 8: a big issue in Israeli society. They agree that The
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  Speaker 8: education system has to be improved. Israel has dropped within
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  Speaker 8: the OECD countries to one of the lowest levels of education.
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  Speaker 8: So there is agreement on a lot of things. But
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  Speaker 8: Eisenkot has very little political experience. At the same time,
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  Speaker 8: he comes across as someone with integrity. If he does
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  Speaker 8: eventually form the coalition, he will be the first prime
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  Speaker 8: minister from what's called Mizrahi. In other words, his parents
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  Speaker 8: are Moroccan. He grew up in Eilat. So the other
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  Speaker 8: prime ministers like Netanyahu have all been Ashkenazi, sort of
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  Speaker 8: Eastern European, the founders of Israel and kind of seen
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  Speaker 8: a little bit more as the political and economic elite.
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  Speaker 2: What happens if Netanyahu, and look, we could be looking
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  Speaker 2: at weeks or months of, you know, political wrangling to
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  Speaker 2: actually form a government here. But if he does get
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  Speaker 2: the boot, what does it mean for Israel and the world?
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  Speaker 8: Well, that's the question. I mean, right now, Israel is
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  Speaker 8: kind of a pariah in the world. And even with
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  Speaker 8: the United States, I mean, President Trump did endorse Netanyahu
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  Speaker 8: kind of at the last minute. But everywhere, I mean,
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  Speaker 8: you know, there's increasing sanctions on Israel, increasing boycotts. So,
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  Speaker 8: you know, it's possible that a different government will at
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  Speaker 8: least begin to improve Israel's position in the world. But Eisenkot,
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  Speaker 8: the former general, hasn't made that clear what exactly his
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  Speaker 8: position would be on issues like the Palestinians, the future
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  Speaker 8: of Gaza, things like that. So again, it's just too
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  Speaker 8: early to... know. But I think that a lot of
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  Speaker 8: Israelis feel that it's really time for change, time for
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  Speaker 8: a new government. Netanyahu has been Israel's longest, more than
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  Speaker 8: 19 years. He's currently on trial in several issues of corruption.
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  Speaker 8: which he says, of course, he's completely innocent of. But
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  Speaker 8: I think there is a sense that Israelis want something else.
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  Speaker 8: The question is, will Eisenkot be able to put together
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  Speaker 8: a coalition that will be sort of centrist and that
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  Speaker 8: will reflect the majority of how Israelis are feeling? Emigration
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  Speaker 8: from Israel has increased dramatically in the last few years.
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  Speaker 8: So there's really a sense that this election is perhaps
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  Speaker 8: the most crucial in the country's history.
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  Speaker 2: Linda Gradstein, great to have you on the program as always.
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  Speaker 2: CBS Middle East correspondent live from Jerusalem for us this morning,
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  Speaker 2: 19 minutes after five. You're on Newstalk ZB. Next, Labour's
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  Speaker 2: rent-to-buy scheme, a blessing or a curse?
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  Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by
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  Speaker 2: News Talk ZB. Welcome back. 21 minutes after five, Gavin
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  Speaker 2: Gray will have the names of those two who have
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  Speaker 2: been charged and named in the UK terror plot that's
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  Speaker 2: coming your way in about 30 minutes' time. First, here
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  Speaker 2: at Home and Politics, Labour's rent-to-buy scheme. It would let
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  Speaker 2: Kāinga Ora tenants save $ 100 a week off their rent,
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  Speaker 2: and they would save that towards a deposit, which they
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  Speaker 2: could then use to purchase the property they're living in.
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  Speaker 2: Every home that we sell to the existing tenant, we
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  Speaker 2: need to build three houses alongside that. Matt Ball, New
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  Speaker 2: Zealand Property Investors Association, with us this morning. Matt, good morning. Federation,
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  Speaker 2: I should say. Good to have you on the show, Matt. Yeah, morning, Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. So does this work, this
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  Speaker 2: kind of thing?
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  Speaker 9: Look, it's quite a niche scheme, but it is a
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  Speaker 9: good idea. It's a new idea. So part of the
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  Speaker 9: other scheme was the 5% deposits. That's exactly the same
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  Speaker 9: as national scheme to encourage people into new homes. The
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  Speaker 9: went the buy is a new idea. It's quite a
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  Speaker 9: good one, but it's quite niche is the criticism I
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  Speaker 9: would have of it, that it's just state tenants, not
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  Speaker 9: all working renters.
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  Speaker 2: And you presumably, because it would take you, what, 5,
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  Speaker 2: 10 years to actually save up for a deposit on
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  Speaker 2: a house at that, depending on where you live, I suppose,
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  Speaker 2: and the value of the property. But you'd have to
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  Speaker 2: be in a state house for a long time for
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  Speaker 2: that to be realised, right?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right. I guess it's a bit of an
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  Speaker 9: incentive to stay in a state house and to stay
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  Speaker 9: in that house, get your 5% deposit built up and
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  Speaker 9: then buy it. So yes, it's an incentive for people
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  Speaker 9: to say that.
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  Speaker 2: And what about the, you mentioned the 5% thing, because
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  Speaker 2: that is a national policy already. Well, it's a government
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  Speaker 2: policy already. You can get this where you only need 5%
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  Speaker 2: rather than the 20%. And the cap would be increased
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  Speaker 2: on income from $ 150, 000 for two people to $ 300, 000 for
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  Speaker 2: two people. Do you risk a sort of a negative
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  Speaker 2: equity situation when you start offering these incentives? It's happened
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  Speaker 2: a little bit in Australia.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I guess you could say that. That is possible.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, we are kind of expecting house prices to
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  Speaker 9: start increasing, so you might not quite get that negative equity.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, as incomes rise, as general inflation rises, you
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  Speaker 9: might expect house prices to go up by 2% or 3%.
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  Speaker 9: So that's probably not the biggest thing there. Another criticism
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  Speaker 9: I would say of this policy is that they're going
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  Speaker 9: to build three for every one that they sell. That
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  Speaker 9: doesn't appear to be funded, so I'm not sure where
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  Speaker 9: the money's coming for that. And if I was designing
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  Speaker 9: a perfect scheme for labour, I would have said, hey,
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  Speaker 9: why don't you make it for all working families, all
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  Speaker 9: working people? So whether you're in a kanga or a
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  Speaker 9: home or a private home, that you could get this
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  Speaker 9: $ 100 a week deposit credit on top of your rent,
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  Speaker 9: and that follows you wherever you go.
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  Speaker 2: It might be a little bit expensive, do you think?
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  Speaker 9: It could be expensive, Ryan, yes. But that's not my job.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, you're just playing the let's hand it out
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  Speaker 2: and win some votes card there, aren't you?
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  Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I suppose you can say this is on
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  Speaker 9: the money side. It's a giveaway money. It's not growing
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  Speaker 9: the pie policy. But, you know, it's an interesting policy.
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  Speaker 9: One of the issues with people buying a first home
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  Speaker 9: is the deposit, and that addresses that issue. So in
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  Speaker 9: that sense, it's quite good.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Ball, Property Investors Federation, with us this morning. It
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  Speaker 2: is 24 minutes after five. Good morning, Ryan. If you're
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  Speaker 2: living in a state house on a subsidised income, how
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  Speaker 2: are they going to be able to afford a mortgage?
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  Speaker 2: It's typical Labour. Well, I suppose that's what they're trying
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  Speaker 2: or attempting to help them with. Ryan, will the sale
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  Speaker 2: of state houses be discounted at book value or at
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  Speaker 2: market value, Mike? Good question, Mike. So what Labour has
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  Speaker 2: said is that there will be a fair valuation done
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  Speaker 2: at the date of purchase, and that's what whoever is
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  Speaker 2: renting to buy will pay. 25 after 5, Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB, it is 27 minutes after 5 this morning.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot stay silent on this issue that has been
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  Speaker 2: raised on the campaign. This comment, made by New Zealand
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  Speaker 2: First candidate and former Defence Minister Ron Mark, is outrageous
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  Speaker 2: and it is wrong.
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  Speaker 10: The work of diversity, equity and inclusiveness has gone too far.
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  Speaker 10: The sinking of a $ 100 million ship is evidence of that.
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  Speaker 10: And soldiers with man buns, they don't scare anybody. We
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  Speaker 10: need to restore the proud warrior ethos of the New
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  Speaker 10: Zealand military.
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  Speaker 2: Ron, Ron, Ron. There is nothing wrong with expressing oneself
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  Speaker 2: via a tightly held and well-manicured man bun. Some call
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  Speaker 2: them twat tops, douche doughnuts, head turds. They've been cool
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things over the time, but a sign
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  Speaker 2: of weakness?
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  Speaker 9: Never.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen a Japanese samurai? Have you ever
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  Speaker 2: seen a Norse Viking? Both elite warriors. Samurais fight with swords,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, use them to literally chop off their enemies' heads.
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  Speaker 2: These guys are tough. These guys are Pete Hegseth tough.
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  Speaker 2: They're ruthless, they're clinical, but also a little bit stylish,
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  Speaker 2: you know, which is quite nice. What about Jason Momoa?
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  Speaker 2: Goodness me, they don't call him a Hollywood heavyweight for nothing,
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  Speaker 2: do they? He's just bought a house in Queenstown worth
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  Speaker 2: $ 15 million. Do you know what he paid with? Warrior cash.
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  Speaker 2: That's Jason Momoa. He's a tough guy. And do you
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  Speaker 2: know what he looked like doing it?
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  Speaker 11: Amazing.
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  Speaker 2: As anyone who's grown a bun or a top knot
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  Speaker 2: knows all too well, it takes balls of steel to
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  Speaker 2: stick it out through that awkward growth phase. Months of uncertainty,
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  Speaker 2: of making a plan and sticking to it. You must
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  Speaker 2: wake up each day to that clown mop atop your head,
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  Speaker 2: look straight in the follicles and say, damn it, I
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  Speaker 2: am who I am and I'm not changing. That's what
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  Speaker 2: I call courage. That's courageous. That is the warrior ethos.
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  Speaker 2: These warriors should be celebrated, not sidelined. 9292 is the
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  Speaker 2: number to text. A lot of women find them quite fetching.
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  Speaker 2: Yet Mackenzie, didn't take much for you to nod in agreement,
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  Speaker 2: did it? 29 minutes after five on Newstalk ZB. We
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  Speaker 2: are live to the UK on that terror plot at
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  Speaker 2: the Air Force Base. We are also live to Callie Echold,
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  Speaker 2: the head of today's OCR call by the Reserve Bank.
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  Speaker 2: Will they hike? Will they hold? Surprising couple of people
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  Speaker 2: in the Let's Hold Not Hike camp. Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 3: 24 minutes away from 6, you're on Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 2: It is OCR day today. Kelly Echol from Westpac joins
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  Speaker 2: us before top of the hour. Also, we'll head to
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the UK. Two guys involved in this terror plot have
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: been named. They are both British nationals, but they're accused
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: of helping the Iranians in all of this. So Gavin
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: will give us the details. Loads of your feedback coming
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: in on both the man bun and Labour's rent-to-buy scheme. Ryan,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: is it the idea that people only stay in a
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: state house for as short a period of time as possible?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: not encouraging them to stay for 10 years plus to
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: save part of their rent to buy a home. Ryan,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: for every one vote that they have bought with this
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: housing policy, Labour has lost three. It's the end of Labour,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: says Paul. And on the man buns, and Ron Mark
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: and his comments about the man buns, which I quite
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: frankly personally take offence to, man buns still makes you
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: look like a dick, says Brent. And this is from
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Graham Ryan. A man bun is nearly a ponytail and
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: under every ponytail is an a-hole.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: 23 to 6. Let's go to our reporters. Cullum in Dunedin. Morning, Cullum.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Morning, Ryan.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: You've been looking at Trade Me's job numbers in Otago.
• 19:21
  Speaker 12: Yeah, and what it's showing is that job hunters here
• 19:24
  Speaker 12: are facing the lowest competition in the country. Trade Me's
• 19:27
  Speaker 12: latest job data reveals that nationally job listings rose 6.5%.
• 19:31
  Speaker 12: in the last quarter, with the South Island leading the
• 19:35
  Speaker 12: recovery up 15%. Trade Me Jobs GM Greg Cassidy says
• 19:39
  Speaker 12: about 21 applications are made for each South Island listing,
• 19:42
  Speaker 12: compared with 30 in the North Island.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: But he says.
• 19:45
  Speaker 12: Competition varies, with Auckland Rolls attracting nearly 40 applications each.
• 19:49
  Speaker 12: That's almost three times as many here in Otago. Otago
• 19:53
  Speaker 12: also recorded the country's strongest annual pay growth, up 4.6%.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: How's your weather?
• 20:00
  Speaker 12: Good to start with, fine, but then cloud increasing. Rain
• 20:03
  Speaker 12: tonight and a gusty westerly this afternoon.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: All right, Callum, thank you for that. We just lost
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: him towards the end there. Let's go to Claire in Christchurch. Morning, Claire.
• 20:12
  Speaker 13: Good morning.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Now, youth homelessness, there's a new group starting or coming together.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Is it a big problem there?
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, apparently a growing problem as well. We've got these
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: eight youth housing and support providers joining forces to form
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: a group called the Ototahi Youth Housing Alliance in order
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: to help tackle the problem. We've heard that five agencies
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: received referrals for more than 40 homeless young people in
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: the month of September alone. More than 30% of them
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: are Maori. Christchurch Methodist Mission Social Services and Youth Housing
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: Manager Eve Lafferty says almost 3,000 youth were experiencing severe
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: homelessness in the city in the last census. But she
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: says referrals from young people have surged in more recent
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: years to the point now where space just simply can't
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: keep pace. She says young people often become homeless after
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: a family breakdown, with some as young as 16 having
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: literally nowhere to go and staying in unsafe situations as
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: a result.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: How's your weather, Claire?
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Fine.
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: A bit of high cloud developing this afternoon northwest, at
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: least picking up, but we should reach 21.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Brilliant. Max, good morning to you. Good morning. Hey, great
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: story out of Masterton, or Wairarapa, wider Wairarapa, I should say,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: about the garden gnomes.
• 21:22
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 21:23
  Speaker 15: So police in Wairarapa basically have finally solved something of
• 21:26
  Speaker 15: a crime spree after locals around the town of Masterton
• 21:31
  Speaker 15: started to notice garden ornaments going missing, particularly a few
• 21:35
  Speaker 15: hundred garden gnomes. Over the past six to 12 months,
• 21:39
  Speaker 15: a thief or thieves have been going around households taking,
• 21:42
  Speaker 15: and this is according to police, people's bird baths, outdoor furniture, gazebos, trolleys, windmills,
• 21:48
  Speaker 15: solar lights, children's wheelbarrows, metal birds, pot plants, statues, sculptures,
• 21:53
  Speaker 15: a concrete giraffe and even a few Buddha and 200
• 21:57
  Speaker 15: garden gnomes are also going missing from people's gardens. All
• 22:01
  Speaker 15: finally discovered by officers at one Masterton residential property. Nothing
• 22:07
  Speaker 15: from the cops about what sort of punishment this thief
• 22:09
  Speaker 15: or kleptomaniac or sprite might face. But police are urging
• 22:13
  Speaker 15: anyone around Wairarapa to come forward and collect their gnomes
• 22:16
  Speaker 15: and ornaments because they're all at Masterton Police Station clogging.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Up the building. It's quite funny. I actually think they're
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: quite hideous garden gnomes. Do you agree? They're kind of
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: up there with the plastic windmills. You know when people
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: put power shelves in their garden?
• 22:32
  Speaker 15: Yeah, very twee, very quaint and twee, isn't it? It's
• 22:35
  Speaker 15: probably a bygone era.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Tacky, cheap. Kitchy. Kitchy, that's it. How's your weather, Max?
• 22:41
  Speaker 15: Cloud increasing, norwesterly strong at times 15. Nice one, thank you.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Neva.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: What?
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Power?
• 22:47
  Speaker 16: What about the powerhouse in Bluff?
• 22:49
  Speaker 14: Yeah, well, I mean.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Is that different? I guess it's a bit different because
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: they went all out. It was... The house was a
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: power show, you know? I suppose, yeah. But when you've
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: just got... You know when people do them in a border?
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: And I shouldn't say this because my.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Your nana?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: My nana did, yeah. My grandma. She used to have
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the border that was a power show.
• 23:07
  Speaker 13: Yeah, oh, bless Nan.
• 23:08
  Speaker 16: But I suppose it is that... No, I'll be ageist,
• 23:11
  Speaker 16: the elderly thing to do.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Or pumice. Is that terrible?
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: Pumice.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: She'd go to the beach and get the pumice and
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: then line the garden with pumice. It's like, and then
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: she used to put the pumice in the shower too
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: as a sort of body scrub.
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: Oh, lovely.
• 23:23
  Speaker 16: I bet you turned up, you went, Nan, it looks
• 23:25
  Speaker 16: so gorgeous. But your inside voice was like, ooh, tacky, ooh, Nana.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Tacky, hideous, get some style, Nana. Old Premier Wayne Brown
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: releasing his full election manifesto this morning, even though he's
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: not standing.
• 23:37
  Speaker 13: Yeah, well, that's right.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Good old Wayne Brown.
• 23:40
  Speaker 16: Now, what he's saying is that, look, 100,000 people could
• 23:43
  Speaker 16: be living in the city centre if the settings were right.
• 23:46
  Speaker 16: So this is what he's wanting, what he's proposing, a
• 23:48
  Speaker 16: joint Crown Council approach to boost the residential population in
• 23:52
  Speaker 16: the central city. Now, how would you do that? He's saying, look,
• 23:55
  Speaker 16: his manifesto will include a new primary school in the
• 23:58
  Speaker 16: city centre and And he's even suggesting two possible options
• 24:02
  Speaker 16: for the school, the former police station on Vincent Street
• 24:05
  Speaker 16: or the site of the now-closed Kadima School that's on
• 24:09
  Speaker 16: Grey's Ave.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, look at him. Very constructive.
• 24:11
  Speaker 16: I've got to say, didn't you? I'd heard you talking
• 24:14
  Speaker 16: about man buns and all that.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: You had one, eh? You used to have one.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Chopped it off years ago. Oh, right.
• 24:19
  Speaker 16: Was that at uni days?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: No, no, it was actually while I was working. But
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: do you know what's funny?
• 24:25
  Speaker 13: Oh, you were not quite cool.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Do you know what's funny is all the comments people
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: are making about it. People with man buns make it
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: their entire personality, says this texter. And this other person
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: says the man bun is a pull start for an F-wit.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I thought that was quite good. How's our weather?
• 24:43
  Speaker 16: Mainly fine. Chance of an evening shower. So watch out
• 24:47
  Speaker 16: if you've got that man bun in there with the showers.
• 24:49
  Speaker 16: 19 to high here in Auckland.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Neva. 17 to 6, Newstalk ZB. We're in
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: the UK next.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: International Correspondence with NZI Insurance. Peace of mind for New
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Zealand business.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Quarter to six, Newstalk ZB. We'll do the OCR with
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Kelly Echol in a few seconds. First, we are going
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: to the UK. Our UK correspondent, Gavin Gray, joins us
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: because two British nationals have been charged over this alleged
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: terror plot. And there are links, potential links, to Iran's
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: intelligence service here. Gavin, what do we know?
• 25:17
  Speaker 14: Yeah, they've just appeared in court in the centre of London.
• 25:22
  Speaker 14: They're two 24-year-olds. One is charged with assisting a foreign
• 25:26
  Speaker 14: intelligence service. The other is charged with entering a prohibited
• 25:30
  Speaker 14: place for a purpose prejudicial to the UK.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Now, interestingly.
• 25:34
  Speaker 14: The latter charge there, entering a prohibited place, was some
• 25:38
  Speaker 14: weeks before the airbase, RF Fairford, had all that police
• 25:45
  Speaker 14: activity around in Gloucestershire. Now, a major incident was declared
• 25:49
  Speaker 14: there on the 27th of September, so a month after
• 25:53
  Speaker 14: the prohibited action as it is. was declared there after
• 25:58
  Speaker 14: three suspicious vans were seen near the U.S.-operated base. It
• 26:02
  Speaker 14: was a forward operating base for American bombers, B-1 and
• 26:05
  Speaker 14: B-52 bombers. America then withdrew its aircraft with Donald Trump
• 26:09
  Speaker 14: saying they were removed due to some threats to the
• 26:12
  Speaker 14: base without giving specific details. So One of the two
• 26:15
  Speaker 14: men in court today was arrested near the base. The
• 26:18
  Speaker 14: other one was related at another location and is not
• 26:23
  Speaker 14: thought to have been at the base at that time.
• 26:25
  Speaker 14: But yeah, quite an interesting turn of events. They will
• 26:29
  Speaker 14: now appear before the Old Bailey on the 20th of November.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: And they're both 24 years old. One, Mahmoud Ahmed Abdul Karim.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: and Noman Eskar. Do we know yet how they were
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: in connection or in communication with the Iranian intelligence service
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: at all? We don't.
• 26:46
  Speaker 14: We think that one of them was the assistant to
• 26:50
  Speaker 14: the other. The prosecutors are saying that one was an
• 26:53
  Speaker 14: assistant to the plot with Abdul Karim charged with helping
• 26:59
  Speaker 14: that plot. And indeed, he appeared in a wheelchair wearing
• 27:03
  Speaker 14: a check shirt earlier, confirming just his name and address.
• 27:06
  Speaker 14: They were both charged under the National Security Act at
• 27:09
  Speaker 14: this stage, Ryan. You know, as you know, with these
• 27:11
  Speaker 14: early court case hearings, you just get the bare outline
• 27:15
  Speaker 14: of the court charges. You don't really get much more.
• 27:18
  Speaker 14: I suspect we will hear more about that when they
• 27:21
  Speaker 14: go to the Old Bailey in a month's time.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: We've had leaders from Norway and Finland on the blower
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: with Vladimir Putin. 90 minute call. What did we learn?
• 27:30
  Speaker 14: Well, not a huge amount of support from the rest
• 27:33
  Speaker 14: of the EU. Some saying we didn't really get any
• 27:38
  Speaker 14: acknowledgement from Norway or Finland that this was happening. So
• 27:41
  Speaker 14: some one or two quite angry European Union leaders said,
• 27:45
  Speaker 14: trying to sort of play it down as well. You know, OK,
• 27:48
  Speaker 14: that's OK. But others are saying, no, we need to
• 27:51
  Speaker 14: speak with a unified voice. And doing it this way
• 27:54
  Speaker 14: with these two leaders, a prime minister and a president
• 27:57
  Speaker 14: just going off on their own is not what we want. Indeed,
• 28:01
  Speaker 14: the leaders themselves have said their initiative was not on
• 28:03
  Speaker 14: behalf of Europe. After the call, however, Vladimir Putin said confrontational,
• 28:09
  Speaker 14: as he called it, EU and NATO policies were prolonging
• 28:12
  Speaker 14: the war in Ukraine. which, of course, began in 2022.
• 28:16
  Speaker 14: Vladimir Zelensky has praised and is grateful for the support
• 28:19
  Speaker 14: of his Finnish and Norwegian counterparts. And let's not forget,
• 28:22
  Speaker 14: Finland and Norway both border Russia. And it is said
• 28:27
  Speaker 14: that they want to talk further with Vladimir Putin over
• 28:30
  Speaker 14: the coming days and months. They say communication is the
• 28:34
  Speaker 14: best way. But I think one or two EU leaders
• 28:36
  Speaker 14: are rather feeling left out in the cold, thinking, hang on,
• 28:38
  Speaker 14: they're on our border as well, and we should have
• 28:41
  Speaker 14: been more informed and involved.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Gavin Gray, our UK-Europe correspondent. It is 10 to 6.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: OCR day today. Odds on we'll get a 25 basis
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: point increase. That'll take us to 3%. We've got renewed
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: inflation pressures. We've got a weaker Kiwi dollar. Some are
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: expecting another hike in December and some even further another
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: hike in February. Kelly Echold, Westpac chief economist with us
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: this morning. Kelly, good morning.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Good morning.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Have you seen the comments from Shamabel Yacob? I mean,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: he's one of a couple now who was saying, actually,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: we should be holding not hiking. You look at labour costs,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: you look at what the Reserve Bank has said was
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: going to happen, not happening. What do you reckon?
• 29:18
  Speaker 11: I don't really agree with this core argument because I
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: think Shamabelle and I probably have very different ideas about
• 29:25
  Speaker 11: where interest rates are going in a year or so.
• 29:28
  Speaker 11: But I would agree that today there's a very good
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: argument for the Reserve Bank to not lift the OCR
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: because all that's really changed in the last six weeks
• 29:36
  Speaker 11: is that the oil price has gone up $ 20- odd a
• 29:39
  Speaker 11: barrel and the exchange rate's gone down a bit. Both
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: of these things are quite variable. Both of these things
• 29:45
  Speaker 11: basically just move the very short-term inflation outlook and it
• 29:48
  Speaker 11: should be the medium-term inflation outlook that the Reserve Bank
• 29:52
  Speaker 11: should be focused on.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: That's what they said at the very outset, right? The
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: second round is what we're watching for.
• 29:58
  Speaker 11: That's right. And so far, we haven't really seen a
• 30:01
  Speaker 11: lot of evidence that there's any second round impacts going on.
• 30:04
  Speaker 11: And actually, that seems to be the message around most
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: countries around the.
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: World as well.
• 30:09
  Speaker 11: But it is fair to say, though, that with headline
• 30:11
  Speaker 11: inflation heading over 4% and core inflation around 3%, There's
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: certainly going to be a bit of work to do
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: for the Reserve Bank over the course of the next year.
• 30:20
  Speaker 11: But I think we need to be sure that the
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: economy is going to be sustainably recovering. And also, we
• 30:27
  Speaker 11: have to keep an eye on where those long-term interest
• 30:29
  Speaker 11: rates are going as well. They've risen quite a bit
• 30:31
  Speaker 11: in the last six weeks or so.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: So you reckon it's more of a lineball call today,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: do you? I mean, the markets are saying 85% chance
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: they will hike. How would you describe it?
• 30:40
  Speaker 11: Oh, I think it's probably closer to a 50% chance,
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: to be honest with you. I mean, I think in
• 30:45
  Speaker 11: the end, the Reserve Bank will toe the market slide here.
• 30:48
  Speaker 11: They'll see it as probably too disruptive to disappoint markets,
• 30:53
  Speaker 11: especially given it's a week or so before the election. But,
• 30:57
  Speaker 11: you know, just because that's what they're going to do
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: doesn't necessarily make it the best idea.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: David Seymour mentioned in his press conference yesterday that the
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: dollar's weaker because the election's coming and there's a chance
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the government will change. Is there any truth in that?
• 31:11
  Speaker 11: Oh, I think it's a pretty marginal impact. I mean,
• 31:13
  Speaker 11: the New Zealand dollar has depreciated largely in line with
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: a lot of foreign currencies have done. One of my
• 31:19
  Speaker 11: colleagues did some analysis of how the New Zealand dollar
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: behaves around elections and didn't find a very strong, consistent effect.
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: So I don't really think it's the biggest factor.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Good stuff. Kelly Echolt, Westpac, 8 to 6, Newstalk ZB.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Before the news breaks, hear it first. Ryan Bridge on
• 31:37
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• 31:42
  Speaker 2: News Talk ZB.
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: Six to six.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: We mentioned yesterday President Lula getting a fourth term. This
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: is in Brazil. Investors very worried about that. And as
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: a result, you saw stock markets take a bit of
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: a tumble there yesterday because of his fourth term. They're
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: worried about public finances, the left-wing government running a budget
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: deficit of more than 9% of GDP at the moment.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: And he's promising more handouts. And the currency fell 8%
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: against the dollar. That was the biggest drop, single-day drop,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: since 1999. Mike's in.
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: The studio.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike. Greetings, Ryan. Lovely to see you.
• 32:15
  Speaker 13: Guess what I've just been doing? I don't normally do this,
• 32:18
  Speaker 13: but guess what I've just been doing? Interviewing somebody is
• 32:22
  Speaker 13: the answer.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Guess who it is? Guess who it is?
• 32:25
  Speaker 13: It's Michael Douglas.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. Yeah. How old's he?
• 32:30
  Speaker 13: 81 or 82.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Cognos Mentis?
• 32:34
  Speaker 13: Very much the reason I raised this with you. So anyway, he's,
• 32:38
  Speaker 13: I don't know whether you've Notice, but he's done a
• 32:41
  Speaker 13: book and it's making global headlines and he had a
• 32:43
  Speaker 13: relationship with Kathleen Turner and they denied it.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Actually, I did see it. He finally admitted to the affair.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 32:50
  Speaker 13: So there's a lot of that, none of which we
• 32:52
  Speaker 13: talk about.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 32:53
  Speaker 13: Well, because it's already been talked about. Why repeat the
• 32:55
  Speaker 13: same regurgitate? There's a problem with the world of media.
• 32:58
  Speaker 13: Everyone regurgitates the same stuff. Did you get something better
• 33:01
  Speaker 13: than an affair admission? I reckon I did. I recognize it.
• 33:04
  Speaker 13: I'll tell you what's fascinating about it. You're too young
• 33:08
  Speaker 13: to remember, although you shouldn't be. One Flew Over the
• 33:10
  Speaker 13: Cuckoo's Nest.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Do you know the story? Well, I know this movie.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: He produced it.
• 33:15
  Speaker 13: And who did he want to put in that movie?
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Don't know.
• 33:18
  Speaker 13: His father. They told him his father was too old.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: And this story has never been told before? It's not.
• 33:24
  Speaker 13: To anyone? And who did he pick?
• 33:28
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Who? Jack Nicholson.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, right.
• 33:31
  Speaker 13: Jack Nicholson became famous.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, so we could have that.
• 33:34
  Speaker 13: Anyway, the thing that fascinated me, apart from it was
• 33:36
  Speaker 13: Michael Douglas, and I've never talked to him before, is
• 33:38
  Speaker 13: his dates, times, and people. 82-year-old guy, we're talking back
• 33:42
  Speaker 13: to the 70s and the start of his career. It's
• 33:44
  Speaker 13: like unbelievable.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Excellent recollection.
• 33:45
  Speaker 13: It's like talking to an AI-generated robot.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Speaking of.
• 33:48
  Speaker 13: Which actually could have been.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: And movies. I watched Terminator 1 and 2 on the
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: weekend because I'd never seen them before. James Cameron.
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  Speaker 14: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Excellent.
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  Speaker 2: Well, number two was much better. You like that? Have
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  Speaker 2: you seen them?
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  Speaker 13: I saw the second one because we interviewed the guy
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  Speaker 13: who was the Terminator. What's his name? Can't remember his name.
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  Speaker 2: Schwarzenegger.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the new Terminator. Exactly.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They were great movies.
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  Speaker 13: They were great movies. Anyway, none of that will be
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  Speaker 13: on the program today.
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  Speaker 14: Oh.
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  Speaker 16: None.
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  Speaker 8: What a disappointment.
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  Speaker 2: No, exactly.
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  Speaker 13: No, Michael Douglas is next week.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Good stuff. Mike Neese.
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