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110. Gurl DO NOT GO ON THE HILL (The Ruins) · The Book-Watchers

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  Speaker 1: this one because this episode's kind of I'm gonna be honest,
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  Speaker 1: until we moved on to like more interesting books to read,
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  Speaker 1: because uh, it took me a minute to get through
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  Speaker 1: this book that we're reading today. So today we are
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  Speaker 1: reviewing The Ruins. The Ruins by Scott Smith. For those
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  Speaker 1: of you who have seen the movie, this is the
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  Speaker 1: book that it was based off of. This is The
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  Speaker 1: Ruins by Scott Smith. And in two thousand and eight,
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  Speaker 1: I think two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine,
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  Speaker 1: they this was this was a feature motion picture two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and eight. Yeah, so this book was actually published
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  Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, so about two years before
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  Speaker 1: the movie came out. Well, this book, I will say,
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  Speaker 1: was definitely written to be adapted into a movie because
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  Speaker 1: the author, Scott Smith, he only wrote he only wrote
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  Speaker 1: two books, this one and another book. I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: that the other one is important, but it was he
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  Speaker 1: himself is he is a movie writer, so he clearly
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  Speaker 1: wrote this book with the intention of adapting it into
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  Speaker 1: a movie, and they did. And at the time the
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  Speaker 1: movie was good. It was like it was definitely one
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  Speaker 1: of those like, uh, it was. It was definitely going
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  Speaker 1: to be a classic horror film when it came out.
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  Speaker 1: But then I watched it again and it did not
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  Speaker 1: really survive passage of time at least not at least
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think so, because like I forgot how short
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  Speaker 1: the movie was, and and the CGI that they use
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  Speaker 1: wasn't that great. Like they used it definitely in the moments,
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  Speaker 1: like the parts where like it definitely needed it to
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  Speaker 1: be good it was, but another parts you could tell
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  Speaker 1: was very cheaply done, like especially when it came to
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  Speaker 1: making certain things look give the illusion that certain things
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  Speaker 1: are moving. So they give you, just like a basic rundown.
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  Speaker 1: The Ruins is about a group of American tourists who
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  Speaker 1: get trapped in a uh in, a Mayan ruin, so
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  Speaker 1: like literal Mayan ruin. They they are trapped on this
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  Speaker 1: uh this Mayan pyramid like which is called ziggurat of course,
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  Speaker 1: and this cigaratte is covered completely covered in this strange vegetation,
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  Speaker 1: these vines with these bright red flowers on them. And
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  Speaker 1: when they get and when they get trapped on this pyramid,
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  Speaker 1: they're there. The entire pyramid is surrounded by a tribe
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  Speaker 1: of of Mayan people. These Mayans will not let them leave,
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  Speaker 1: and if they try to leave, the mines will kill them,
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  Speaker 1: and or at least try it well, the minds threaten them,
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  Speaker 1: threatened to kill them, and they throughout the movie they
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  Speaker 1: slowly discover that the that there have been other people
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  Speaker 1: that have been trapped on the period by the pyramid
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  Speaker 1: by the Mayans. And it turns out the mines aren't
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  Speaker 1: really doing that to be malicious, but rather to prevent
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  Speaker 1: them from prevent something from leaving with them, and that's
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  Speaker 1: something is the vines themself. So the so the vines
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  Speaker 1: that cover the pyramid are actually a very very hostile
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  Speaker 1: and carnivorous plant. And if it can be called a
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  Speaker 1: plant because the way it proliferates is very similar to
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  Speaker 1: that of a fungus. But yeah, it takes the shape
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  Speaker 1: of a but it takes the shape of a like
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  Speaker 1: a plant like vine and it and while they're trapped
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  Speaker 1: in the pyramid, they are slowly getting devoured by the
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  Speaker 1: by the vine itself. Like the vine itself doesn't look
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  Speaker 1: very threatening, but once it's like, but it actually moves,
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  Speaker 1: and it moves very fast to like not just like
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  Speaker 1: a slow creep to like, you know, wrap itself around you. No,
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  Speaker 1: it'll straight up, just like slither up like a snake
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  Speaker 1: and just like like wrap around you, and it'll eat you.
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  Speaker 2: Not demure, not mindful of the earth.
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  Speaker 1: Not de mirror, not mindful at all. So the book
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  Speaker 1: itself is one is one of those books that the
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  Speaker 1: movie doesn't really deviate much from. There's definitely like the
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  Speaker 1: way that the events of the movie turn out, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it turns out the exact same way in the almost
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  Speaker 1: the exact same way in the book. There are a
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  Speaker 1: few key differences. So there are a total of five
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  Speaker 1: people that get trapped on the pyramid, and in the
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  Speaker 1: movie two of them get killed off pretty quickly, but
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  Speaker 1: in the book they actually all don't get No one
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  Speaker 1: gets killed off right away. Their deaths in the books
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  Speaker 1: are a lot more slow and drawn out, and it's
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  Speaker 1: definitely more of a psychological horror because they once they
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  Speaker 1: realize what is killing is slowly starting to kill them.
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  Speaker 1: They you know, there's fear, there's tension, there's paranoia, and eventually,
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  Speaker 1: like they all don't start dying until like near the end,
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  Speaker 1: when they can no longer really like hold the plant back,
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  Speaker 1: when they can no longer actually when they're not strong
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  Speaker 1: enough to like resist the plant or just do anything
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  Speaker 1: to defend themselves. And pretty much by the end, their
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  Speaker 1: their spirits are broken, and there's they're dying, they're if
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  Speaker 1: they've stopped trusting each other, and it's honestly pretty sad.
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  Speaker 1: It's the book has more of a sad ending and
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  Speaker 1: it's very hopeless in the end, while in the movie
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  Speaker 1: one of them does manage to escape. So let's go.
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  Speaker 1: So let's go and go a little bit deeper into
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  Speaker 1: the story. So the Ruins centers around for American tourists, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, two pairs of couples two pairs of couples,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff and his girlfriend Amy, Eric and his girlfriend Stacy.
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  Speaker 1: So the four of them, they are all college students. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: this is their last hurrah before they are all going
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  Speaker 1: back to UH their studies UH. Jeff and Amy are
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  Speaker 1: medical students UH. Eric and Stacy like Eric is actually
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  Speaker 1: planning on UH is actually going back straight into the
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  Speaker 1: workforce to become like to become some sort of like contractor.
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  Speaker 1: And Stacy she's still she's still in school. And the
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  Speaker 1: four of them were vacationing in con Kuhn, you know,
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  Speaker 1: partying it enjoying life, partying it up. And they meet
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  Speaker 1: several other international tourists. They meet a German tourist named Matthias,
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  Speaker 1: and they also meet a group of tourists from Greece
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  Speaker 1: and and they make friends with them. There's like three
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  Speaker 1: Greek guys that they befriends. One of them they get
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  Speaker 1: more close to as a guy who they don't know
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  Speaker 1: his actual name because none of the Greeks speak English,
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  Speaker 1: and so the Greek guy just refers to himself as Pablo.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, love Pablo mm hm.
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  Speaker 1: Now in the movie, Matthias can speak Greek and he's
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  Speaker 1: the only person that's able to like communicate with with Pablo.
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  Speaker 1: But in the books, they no one knows what the
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  Speaker 1: hell he's saying, not even Matthias.
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  Speaker 2: That's weird.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But the thing is is that Matthias tells them
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  Speaker 3: that he's going to uh in a day, tells them
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  Speaker 3: that he's actually planning on going into the deeper into
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  Speaker 3: the Mexican mainland, into the Yucatan forest to look for his.
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  Speaker 1: Brother, because him and his brother had a falling out.
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  Speaker 1: His brother wanted to follow some archaeologists he met and
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  Speaker 1: tell in love basically fell head over heels with and
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to leave without, you know, locking her down.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, because of course and Matthia they had a
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  Speaker 1: falling out and his brother left an anger. And now
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  Speaker 1: Matthias has not heard from his brother in quite some time,
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  Speaker 1: so he wants to go into the mainland, track his
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  Speaker 1: brother down, and drag his ass back to Germany. And
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  Speaker 1: the four American tourists are just like, well, hey, we'll
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  Speaker 1: go with you, like, we'll help you. Look right, give
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  Speaker 1: him a chance to like see more of the Mexican
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  Speaker 1: you know, go deeper into Mexico, see what it's like.
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  Speaker 1: And honestly, it's like.
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  Speaker 2: It's a huh, that's going to end well for them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not going to end well at all. So
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  Speaker 1: and for some reason, somehow they managed to articulate to
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  Speaker 1: Pablo that what they're planning on doing, and Pablo wants
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  Speaker 1: to go with them too, because he thinks it's an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to party it up, and he leaves a note
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  Speaker 1: with a map for his other two companions and the
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  Speaker 1: and the five of them take a bus and head
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  Speaker 1: deeper into the Yucatan Peninsula. They eventually reach a small
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  Speaker 1: village where they hire where they hire a cab to
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  Speaker 1: take them closer to where Matthias's brother was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be and where they end up is. The guy takes
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  Speaker 1: them as far, only takes them about halfway and he
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  Speaker 1: drops him off about eleven miles from where they're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be and the rest of the way they have
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  Speaker 1: to walk. So after getting dropped off, the taxi driver
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  Speaker 1: tries to convince them to him to let him take
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  Speaker 1: them somewhere else where, like the where it's more appropriate
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  Speaker 1: and more fun for tourists. You know something that the
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  Speaker 1: place that's safer for tourists because there's a bit of
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  Speaker 1: foreshadowing here that it kind of alludes that the taxi
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  Speaker 1: driver knows what's out there, like the like where they're
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  Speaker 1: trying to go, and it's trying to convince them like
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  Speaker 1: that's not a good place for you, please, like you'd
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  Speaker 1: be better off going somewhere safer, but they aren't convinced.
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  Speaker 1: He's not able to convince them, and he ends up
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  Speaker 1: driving off, leaving them there. So here's like so here
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  Speaker 1: there are two two different things happen. So like in
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  Speaker 1: the movie, they just head straight into the they just
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  Speaker 1: follow the path and eventually reached the the Mayan pyramid
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  Speaker 1: right and then that's when they encounter the aggressive mayance
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  Speaker 1: and end up getting trapped on the pyramid. But in
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  Speaker 1: this book, but in the book, the tourists actually follow
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  Speaker 1: the path and they actually miss the path leading to
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  Speaker 1: the to the ruins itself. Uh, they're looking and they
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  Speaker 1: know they're supposed to be like a turnoff off the
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  Speaker 1: path where there's where they follow to get to the archaeologue,
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  Speaker 1: to get to the dig site that the archaeologists were
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be at, and they passed it and actually
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  Speaker 1: come across the Mayan village. So they come across the Mayans.
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  Speaker 1: The Mayans, they the Miyans themselves. They don't really acknowledge
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  Speaker 1: the tourists as they're passing by. In fact, they just
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  Speaker 1: straight up ignore them. One one of the mind villagers
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  Speaker 1: does approach them to like to try to acquire what
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  Speaker 1: they're what they're there for. But the thing is is
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  Speaker 1: that they're not speaking Spanish, They're they're speaking Nalla, so
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  Speaker 1: they're not so no one understands what they're saying. And
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  Speaker 1: the guy they managed to get the gist of the
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  Speaker 1: guys trying to tell them to leave, like please leave. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So they end up do leaving and going back up
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  Speaker 1: the trail. And this time as they're going back up
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  Speaker 1: the trail, they're they're keeping more of a closer eye
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  Speaker 1: on where exactly the turnoff is. And as they're walking
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  Speaker 1: up the trail, they noticed that a couple of boys
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  Speaker 1: are following them from the village. Now, like the boys
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  Speaker 1: themselves are not like the boys, they're not interacting with
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  Speaker 1: the tourists, they're not trying to talk to them, they're
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  Speaker 1: just following them. And a couple of times they stop
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  Speaker 1: to try to like talk to the boys to see
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  Speaker 1: what they want. But every time they stop the boys
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  Speaker 1: stop and keep their distance, so eventually they just decide,
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  Speaker 1: they just decide, all right, whatever, they ignore the boys
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  Speaker 1: and can you continue down the path. Eventually they do
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  Speaker 1: find the turnoff, and they find that the turnoff itself,
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  Speaker 1: the side path itself, had been carefully hidden, so it
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  Speaker 1: looked like someone had taken like leaves and plants and
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  Speaker 1: deliberately planted them there to hide the path. But they
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  Speaker 1: managed to find it because they could see how like
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  Speaker 1: just the plants are just sticking or we're just stuck
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  Speaker 1: in the ground to try to hide it. And as
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  Speaker 1: soon as they find the path, they noticed that one
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  Speaker 1: of the boys immediately turns around and runs back to
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  Speaker 1: the village, while the other one stays and keeps watching them.
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  Speaker 1: They think it's a little weird, but you know, American tourists,
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  Speaker 1: you know, over their head, no sense of danger whatsoever.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be like, they we shouldn't go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna go. I'm just feel like, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I think, I know what this is about,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna go. I don't care about to
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  Speaker 1: hide that other village. I'm going gone by.
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  Speaker 2: It sucks us up.
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  Speaker 1: But he did like, hey, listen, you know what. We
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  Speaker 1: were just trying to be nice, trying to help you
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  Speaker 1: find your brother, but you know, we hardly know you, Matthias,
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  Speaker 1: and not to be rude, but you know this is
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  Speaker 1: your thing, not mine. So I'm just gonna go.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, not gonna die.
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  Speaker 1: Like this was fun, but we're done.
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  Speaker 2: We're done.
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  Speaker 1: We're done here. So the kids, so one of the
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  Speaker 1: kids run back to the immediately turns around and runs
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  Speaker 1: back to the village. The Taurusts all just just shrug
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  Speaker 1: and continue down the path. Eventually they come across a
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  Speaker 1: large clearing, and they noticed what's strange about the clearing
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  Speaker 1: is that all vegetation has been completely cleared away. It's flat,
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  Speaker 1: there's no grass, it's just dirt. And it's just dirt
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  Speaker 1: with like a slight with a weird looking consistency to it,
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  Speaker 1: almost like it's like mixed with some sort of powder,
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  Speaker 1: which they later learn is salt. And in the center
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  Speaker 1: of the clearing.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Now, in the movie it's obvious, it's very obviously a pyramid,
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  Speaker 1: Ziggaratte style pyramid, but in the book it's a hill.
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  Speaker 1: It's described only as a hill.
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  Speaker 2: Oh gotcha, I remember you telling me that.
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  Speaker 1: Man, So there. They're observing the hill and they're trying
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  Speaker 1: and but starts calling out to his brother, hoping to
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  Speaker 1: find him. And as they're peering up the hill, they
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  Speaker 1: do see what looks like a bright nylon orange nylon
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  Speaker 1: tent and before they get any closer to the hill,
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  Speaker 1: from behind them, they do hear the sound of the
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  Speaker 1: of the rapid approaching person and out comes the very
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  Speaker 1: the mayan that had approached them in the village. He's
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  Speaker 1: on a He comes riding up on a horse, and
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: they noticed that the guy is strapped with the with
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  Speaker 1: the revolver. The guy pulls up and start shouting at
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  Speaker 1: them desperately, like like frantically shouting at them. They can't
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  Speaker 1: understand what he's saying, but the way he's gesticulating and
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  Speaker 1: waving his arms, they're slowly getting the feeling that he
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  Speaker 1: wants them to leave. And while they're trying to like
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  Speaker 1: calm the guy down, two more minds show up and
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  Speaker 1: they noticed. They also noticed that even though they showed
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  Speaker 1: up on horseback, the horses will not go any closer
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  Speaker 1: to the to the hill. In fact, they won't even
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  Speaker 1: enter the clearing that they're They won't even enter that
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  Speaker 1: barren clearing like the mines come close, the horses pull
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  Speaker 1: up start freaking out, forcing the minds to jump off
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  Speaker 1: and confront the trusts on foot. The other two minds
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  Speaker 1: that pull up are strapped with bows and arrows, So
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  Speaker 1: these men are very threatening, and while they're not actively
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  Speaker 1: aiming their weapons at them, it's clear the threat is
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  Speaker 1: very clear. So while the American tourists are trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out like what's wrong, like what they're doing, what
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  Speaker 1: should they do, one of the girls of the group, Amy,
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  Speaker 1: of all people, she starts trying to take pictures of
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  Speaker 1: the She's just taking pictures of everything right, total four
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  Speaker 1: it's five, right, and she wants she was trying. She
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  Speaker 1: tries to get like a wider shot of all of
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  Speaker 1: everyone in her u in her picture, but feeling too close,
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  Speaker 1: she keeps she keeps backing up, snapping pictures, wanting something
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  Speaker 1: to like capture all three minds together with the group
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  Speaker 1: while they're confronting them. She keeps backing up, and the
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  Speaker 1: minds notice what she's doing and they start freaking out
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  Speaker 1: and shouting at her get away from the hill, and
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  Speaker 1: then they and then they freeze dead, like they stop
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  Speaker 1: dead and they're just staring at her in horror, and
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: everyone else turns to look at her, and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: what's wrong. Then she turns around and she notices that
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: one of the vines was touching her leg. Now they
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  Speaker 1: didn't see. Now, it's not hint. It doesn't necessarily say
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  Speaker 1: that the vine itself had reached out like had like
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  Speaker 1: reached out and like touched her on purpose. But if
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you think about it, with the way the vines act
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  Speaker 1: throughout this book, would I would not be surprised. She
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: definitely got close enough to where the vines were able
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  Speaker 1: to like sneakly like reach out and touch her. As
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  Speaker 1: soon as it touched her, that's it. The minds immediately
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  Speaker 1: change their tune. So before they were trying to they
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: were trying to scare off the Americans and get them
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: away from the hill. But as soon as they see
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: that Amy had touched the had been touched by the vine,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: they all pull up. They all pull up their weapons.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: That got the first mind with his with his pistol
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and the other two with their bows, and they start
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and they start waving the Americans to get onto the
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: hill and fearing uh you know, reports fearing for their lives.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: The group immediately turns and goes up the hill, and
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the Mins, while they do come closer, follow the group
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: closer to the pyramid. After to the hill, after a
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: certain point they stopped, they don't come any closer to
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the hill, but they still make it clear you're you're
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: not leaving, get on the hill.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: You're stuck here.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: You're stuck here. And in this part, this is the
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: part where like the book and the and the movie
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: were drastically different. So in the in the book, all
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: five of them are forced up onto the hill, while
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: in the movie the Mayans were far more aggressive and
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: as soon as they saw that, because it's funny in
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the in the movie it was Stacy who was taking
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the pictures and who ends up getting who ends up
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: touching the vines, right. But when in the movie when
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: that had happened, the Mayans all start freaking out. They
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: more aggressively telling the like more aggressively trying to force
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: them up onto the pyramid. And when they resist that want,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the pistol ends up shooting Pablo.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: The Pablo dies right there.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: In the movie. Yes, so Pablo dies in the movie,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: but in the book, they all end up getting forced
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: up onto the hill. So, trying to keep calm, they
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: all just decide, all right, well, might as well just
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: go check out check out the tent on the top
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: at the top of the hill. So they follow the
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: path leading up to the Leading up to the top
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: of the hill, they find like the they find the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: remains of a campsite. There's one tent, like bright orange
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: tent that's still standing, and there's another blue nylon tent
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that looks like it's been shredded, and there's stuff everywhere.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: There's equipment, there's uh, supply supplies and uh, you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: personal belongings from like the previous group that was there.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Matthias immediately starts trying to call out for his brother,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: but they can't find anybody. There's no one there. They
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: All they see are just clumps of vines surrounding the
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: little campsite, as well as a hole in the ground.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: When they get closer, they see this hole goes deep
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: into the hill. Now they can't see the bottom because
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: it's just pitch dark at the bottom, but that they
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: decided to leave that for now. They realize that this
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: hill is pretty big and there's probably another way off
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: of it. They also see there's another path leading off
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: in the other on the other side of the hill.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: They decided to try to go down and to see
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: if they can avoid the mines and get out of there.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: But when they get down to the bottom of the hill,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: they find that the mines had already circled around and
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: blocked off that other path. And when they get to
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the bottom, the Mians of course point their weapons at
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: them and make it very clear they're not to leave.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: They can't go any further. Matthias is looking looks around
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: and he notices that there's a clump of vines slightly
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: further away from where the other groups of vines are,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and he notices that the shape of this like clump
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: of vines is very different and unusual. So he goes
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: up to it and he starts pulling the vines apart,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and he finds the body of his younger brother. So
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: it immediately becomes clear that his brother was did not
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: make it out of this situation alive. In fact, something
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: about his brother's corpse, Jeff notices, is weird, uh for starters. Obviously,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Matthias's brother had been killed because he was shot. Because
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: there are three arrows sticking out of his corpse's chest.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: But what's strange is that Matthias's brother had only been
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: there for me, would have only have been in this
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: area for maybe about a week or so, and his
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: corpse already looked like it had been stripped to the bone.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: So that's that's suspicious.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: That suspicious.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So the only thing left are like or like what
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: is later described as inorganic parts, So of course his
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: bones were the only Matthias's brother's bones were only were
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the things left like Key's, like metal, any metal object
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: he was carrying, plastics all right. His clothes and all
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: of his flesh have been completely stripped from his body.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: So the group are now forced back up onto the
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: hill and they decide to take stock and try to
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: figure out their next move. While they're figuring things out,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: they start hearing a chime like a little ringing sound
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: coming from the well, and realizing that there's probably a
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: phone down there for them to be able to call
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: for help, they try to figure out how they're gonna
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: get down. They do notice that there is a windless setup,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: so that way someone could be lowered down into the pit,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: and Pablo, being getting a little too over excited, he
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: immediately straps himself to the wind list and starts and
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: has them lower him down into the pit. The thing is,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: though they didn't properly check the rope. They didn't check
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the rope or the windlass to make sure that it
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: was fully secure, and they kind of jumped the gun
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: on this because when Pablo was probably about halfway down
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the shaft, the rope snaps. They noticed that the vines
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: had choked the windless, and there was and the vines
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: when they were like removing the when they tried cutting
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the vines away from the windless, some of its sap
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: got onto the hemp of the rope. And the thing
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: is the one the thing is that they learned the
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: hard way is that the sap from the vines is
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: highly acidic, and it immediately broke down the hemp on
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: the rope, causing it to snap. Pablo falls more than
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: thirty feet and when he lands, he ends up breaking
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: his back. He survives, but unfortunately his back is broken.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: He can't move and now the others have to figure
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: out a way to get to him and get him
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: out of the get him out of the well. Now,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: in the movie, it was actually Matthias that ends up
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: going down into the well, and of course the rope
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: breaks and he's the one that ends up getting breaking
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: his back. But not in the book. Matthias never breaks
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: his back in the book, it's just Pablo. They're forced
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: to pull the remaining rope up and inspect it, and
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: they see that there's multiple spots where the vine sap
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: had got onto it and was slowly eating it away,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: so they had to trim the rope and also cut
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: apart some of the leftover nylon from the other tent
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: and find any other material they can use to secure
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: the rope and tie it together, and they eventually send
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: both Amy and Stacey. They've excuse me Amy and Stacy.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: They send Eric down into the pit first, but the
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: thing is the new rope that they made was not
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: long enough, so he was still about fifteen feet above
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: the ground. He decides to undo the rope and jump down,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: But the thing is when Pablo had jumped down before
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: had When Pablo had fallen down before, he had a
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: lantern with him and it had broke, so when he landed,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: he ends up skewing his leg with broken glass, essentially
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: crippling himself like semi crippling himself, and now he's down
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: there with Pablo, but no way to get him out,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So the others are forced to pull the rope back
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: up and use more material to make it longer. While
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: they're waiting, Eric make sure Pablo's okay, but he quickly
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: sees that Pabolo is not okay. Pablo is in a
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: lot of pain. His back is broken, and he's lost
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: all feeling below his legs, below his waist, So Pablo
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: is completely paralyzed now, at least at least from the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: waist down. It's completely paralyzed from the waist down, and
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: they have no way of They have no way of
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: moving him. Jeff and Mathias come up with a way
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: to create a special harness a board for them to
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: put Pablo on and get him up out of there,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: but it takes some time for him to get for
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: them to put it together. So while so while they're
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: doing that, Eric is waiting down there with Pablo. He
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: does look around to try to find where the ringing
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: is coming from. But while he's down there, he notices
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: that the ringing seems to be coming from different directions.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: One point, he hears like here's like it's coming from
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: in front of him, then beside him, and then right
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: behind him. And at one point he does notice that
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: there is a tunnel leading off from this main area
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: that he had landed in, and it sounds, and that's
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: where he determined. He does determine that the sound is
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: definitely coming from down that tunnel, but since he does
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: not have since the lantern he brought does not have
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a lot enough oil to keep burning long enough for
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: him to search for it, and because of his injured leg,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: he decides not to go down the He decides not
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: to go look for it. Now the focus should be
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: on Pablo. Eventually, they do get a board down, They
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: do make a board, They make a secure board to
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: get Pablo out. They send Stacy down with I'm sorry nowastays.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: They sent Amy down to help Eric get Pablo onto
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it and get them all out, and this is where
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: things start to like They definitely start to like become
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: more paranoid. They set watches every night throughout the night
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to keep an eye on Pablo because his back is broken.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: They had to treat him. They had to treat him
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: in secure and embrace his back to keep him from
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: uh moving too much. Pablo is practically comatos. He he
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: was in a lot of pain and there's just a
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: lot of screaming going on after he broke his back,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: and they have to basically and they rather than put
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: him inside the tent, because unfortunately Pablo has completely lost
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: control of his bowel, his bowel movements. Uh, they decide
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: to just create like a sort of lean to using
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the remains of the other tent, so that we'll give
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: him some cover and also keep him in an area,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: a separate area where he can rest and recover as
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: much as possible while the other Now, throughout the night,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: while everyone is sleeping, things do begin to happen. Some
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: strange things start happening. Jeff tries to go down and
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: sneak off the hill to sneak past the Mayans, but
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: he noted he immediately notices that the that from the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: three original three mines that showed up and trapped them
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: on the hill, the entire it seemed like the entire
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: village had surrounded the pyramid, and they'd set up bonfires
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: at regular intervals, making it to where no where, there's
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: like no gaps, no way for them to sneak out
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: in the darkness. But even so he tried to sneak
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: down the hill to see maybe he could find a
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: gap that he could go through, and he does see one,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: like there's a gap, like a slight gap between two
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: bonfires and the things that maybe if he's able, if
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: he's quiet enough, he could sneak past them. But as
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: he's going down the sneaking down the hill, he immediately
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: hears what sounds like a huge like like a huge
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: flock of birds crying out. There's a lot of chirping
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: and cawing, and this immediately gives him away and the
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Mayans quickly find him, and so he's forced to turn
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: back the next morning. This is where it gets interesting.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: The next morning, Eric wakes up and he looks down
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: at his leg and sees that one of the vines
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: had grown into the tent and wrapped itself around his leg,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: and one of the vine, one of the little tendrils
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: of the vine, had dug itself into the cut on
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: his knee. Yep, it had dug itself straight into the knee,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: right into his injury. He starts, he freaks out. They
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: have to cut it out of him and pull the
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: damn vine out, and then when they go to check
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: on Pablo while the while he's freaking out, they start
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: noticing that Pablo is also freaking out because they hear
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: him screaming. So they all run outside and go check
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: on him. And the thing is to keep him. No,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: he's alive. He's still alive. That's the worst part, oh,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: all right. But what's even worse than that is that
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: they had covered his lower body to keep him warm.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: They covered him, they covered his legs to keep him
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: warm throughout the night, and they noticed that he They
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: noticed that while he's freaking out, he's looking down at
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: his legs because he could tell something's wrong. He doesn't
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: feel any pain, but he knows something's wrong. They pull
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: away the blanket and they seem that they see that
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the vines had completely covered his lower legs. Is they
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: had completely wrapped themselves around his legs below his knee.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: So they start they cut away the vines, but as
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: soon as they break enough of the vines away to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: reveal his legs, they see that the flesh from his
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: legs from like this point go like from below his
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: shin down to his feet had been completely stripped of flesh.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: The vines had had devoured his legs. The only thing
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: left bone you yep. Now, of course the flesh from
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: like above his shin up to his knee, and of
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: course up to the rest of his body was still intact.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: But everything below is like below midshin was completely devoured.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not really.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Now they're starting to freak out because this confirms what
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Jeff had suspected the day before. Because the day before,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: while they after they had gotten Pablo out of the
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: after they had gotten Pablo out of the well, Jeff
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: had explored the perimeter of the hill. He went down
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: to the very bottom and while the Mins wouldn't let
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: him go any further, they didn't they didn't really complain
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: when he started walking the perimeter. And as he was
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: walking the perimeter, he noticed that there were other mounds
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: surrounding the hill, similar to the one they found Heinrich's
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: brother in And as he's walking, he would pull away
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: the vines and he would notice that there are more bodies,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: of course, and Jeff began to suspect that the that
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the Mayans, they're not keeping them there just because they're assholes.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: There's there's a reason why they're not letting them leave.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: And he also notices that there's this strange green substance
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: beginning to cover his clothes as well as the other clothes,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: as everyone else's clothes as well, and he's noticing strange things,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: like the vines seemed to react in a weird way.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: At one point, he tried to set up like at
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: one point when he came down the hill, he pulled up.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: He grabbed a pole from one of the camping supplies,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: nailed it into the ground, hammered it into the ground
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: at the base of the hill, and put a sign
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: on it that said danger, keep away. And then after
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: that he circled the hill, found in the other bodies,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: started noticing some strange activity among the vines. And when
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: he got back to where he started, he noticed that
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the sign was gone. And he looked around and thought
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: maybe the vines had done it, but he realized the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: mines are not coming anywhere near the hill. They won't
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: go past a certain point. And when he looks around
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit more, he notices that the vines had
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: somehow pulled the sign down and they were hiding it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: They had wrapped themselves around. The vines had wrapped itself
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: around the sign, pulled it down and dragged it deeper
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: into itself. And when he goes to when he searches
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: for the sign, he finds it, But he also finds
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: another sign too, like it seemed like a previous group
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: had tried doing the same thing with a cast iron skillet.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: They had taken a skillet and they had carved on
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: the bottom of it the word danger in Spanish, and
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: it was also hidden deep in the vines as well.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: He took that and went back up the hill and
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: told everyone what he discovered. And then the next morning
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: they the next morning when they found that a vine
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: had dug it self into Eric's leg and the and
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: the vines had completely eaten away Pablo's legs, they realized
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: that the vines are a lot more dangerous than they realized.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: And here's where things get fucked up. When when is
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: it all happened like Jeff had gone down, had gone
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: back down to the to the base of the hill.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Because this happened. The next day, Jeff gone down to
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the base of the hill, tried sitting up the sign
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and found the other mounds right. But when he had
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: done that, he didn't notice that that Pablo what had
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: happened to Pablo or even to Eric, he just gone
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: straight down to the hill. So when he came back up,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: he had his suspicions that the vines were somehow responsible.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: They're dangerous, but everyone else up at the top of
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the hill had found out the hard way. So they
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: found out through Pablo's legs and Jeff's.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: Leg but they also found out through a more disgusting,
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: a little bit more disgusting way, because Amy, after seeing
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Paulo's legs had been completely eaten away by the vines,
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: she turned around and she vomited on the ground out of.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Just sheer horror. She couldn't hold it in. And after
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: she vomited and like stepped away to clean herself up,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: everyone like noticed that the vines began to move more.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: And while her back was turned, Stacy and Matthias saw
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: something behind her, and they like you could see their
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: faces just like completely like freeze and horror. When she
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: turns around, she sees a vine snaking itself out from
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the masses, like a single vine, and the way it
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: was slithering out it almost looked like it was very snakelike.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: And the vine went up to the puddle of her
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: vomit curled itself around it and you could hear like
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: they could hear like this audible sucking sound. So yeah,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the vine ate her vomit. And as soon as it
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: was done, it pulled itself back into the into the
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: mounds of other vines. So there, So there they all
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: are just standing there, barbecue sauce on their titties, having
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: just realized that the the vines are carnivorous and they're dangerous.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: And then Jeff comes up. He's like, hey, guys, I
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: think the vines are dangerous, and everyone else you think
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: and they and he's like, what what happened? Look, and
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: they point out Pablo's legs and they also point and
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: they also tell them what happened with the vine eating
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: the vomit. So Jeff inspects Pablo's legs and realize and
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: sees what had happened, and he realizes that they're gonna
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: need to They're gonna need to operate on Pablo's legs
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: because the thing is, Jeff is a medical student, so
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: he is training to become a doctor, and he does
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: know more or less some of the some medical stuff,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: and he realizes that they don't treat Pablo. Soon he's
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: going to bleed out because there's nothing holding there's no
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: flesh below his leg, below his knees, so he's gonna
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: he's gonna bleed out, and he's gonna also probably suffer
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: a severe infection. So the thing is, most of the
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: people in the group were very were opposed to it
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: because but unfortunately, like he his The thing is, he
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: tells him that it's either that or he dies, like
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: they got to cut off his legs or he's gonna die.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: And while no one is entirely happy about it, they
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: they relent and Matthias helps him prep Pablo for the procedure.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: And because they don't have like proper tools to cut
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: through his bones, because the joint is fine, there's still
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: flesh like above his shin, it's just below that. So
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Jeff unfortunately has to make do with a sharp rock
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: and a boot knife and manages to saw and break
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: through the Pablo's bones and cauterize it. You know, essentially,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: they do save They do save Pablo's life by cutting
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: off his leg at his legs and cauterizing them, but
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: they do end up watching the vines reach out and
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: like take the severed legs. They try to stop it
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: but every But the thing is that the sap being
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: very acidic, it burns them every time they like break
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: through the vines. Like every time they like break a
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: break or cut through a vine, the sap coats their
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: hands and it does cause their hands to blister and bleed,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: so they aren't able to get They aren't really able
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: to save the severed legs because they didn't want the
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: vines to take them, but the vines were like.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: My, it's mine now.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: So the rest of so after this significant like, so
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: they don't really last very long. I will say that
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: they only last maybe about two days before they're all dead.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Pablo's they saved Pablo's life for the time being. The
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: thing is, though Eric had begun developing a form of psychosis,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: he begins developing like a huge, large sense of paranoia
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: because after the vine had dug itself into his wound,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: he believes that there's still part of it inside of him.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: And while everyone else is like, no, that you're fine,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: it's not it's not inside of you, he's not convinced,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: and he keeps trying to tell them that it's it's
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: inside me, like help they have to theyby's have to
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: keep an eye on him, because several times where he
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: tries to sneak the knife away and start cutting into himself,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: and at one point he does manage to do it,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: and he cuts into himself and tries to dig something out,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: but he's not able to find anything. And another day
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: goes by, and like he wakes up the next morning
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: and finds that the vines have grown themselves, have grown
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: into him again, because he'd he had cut himself open
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a couple more times, like especially around the wound that
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: he originally initially got, and then another wound he gave
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: himself on his other leg because he cut himself in
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: because he had a wound on his leg, and then
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: he had cut it into himself below his like in
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: his rib cage. So when he woke up the next morning,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the vines had grown themselves, had grown back, like around
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: those two new wounds, and they had to cut it
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: out of him, and he was still convinced that they
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: are the vines were growing inside of him. And so
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I will say like for this next stretch of the book,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: it was very it was kind of boring because it's
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: just a lot of them trying to survive. They they're
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: trying to ration out their food. But the thing is
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: is that they're all starting to become problematic. Stacy, she
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: for the most part, is in shock, and she seems
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: very apathetic. She does she's like kind of entered in
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: this like she doesn't know what to do and doesn't
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: know how to react, so she's in this sort of
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: fuge state. Eric is stuck in this like paranoid state
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: of like it's inside me, it's inside me, like I
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: need to cut it out. Mathias is keeping is the
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: only one who seems to be keeping us cool. Jeff
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: is trying to be like the is the boy scout.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: He's trying to like rally the troops, keep everyone calm.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: And of course Pablo is Pablo my legs. And I
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: will say that I think the most problematic person, at
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: least in my opinion, is Amy, because Jeff makes it
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: clear that if they're going to survive, they need to
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: ration what little supplies they have. They only have snack food,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: like very little snack foods, like like several like maybe
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: like a bag of mix of like trail mix. They
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: had like some grap some leftover grapes that they brought
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: with them, some old bananas and orange. They had very
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: little to work with, and they also had a limited
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: supply of water. But hey, guess what Pablo brought like
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: three bottles of vodka.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Of course, of course, like you do.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: And Jeff made it clear that they should not drink
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: any alcohol because that'll only make them more dehydrated. But
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. The first night, Amy works wakes up
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the night and she's she's super thirsty,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: and she's like, all right, well, she knows that they
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: have to rah in their water, so she decides like, okay,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: she'll just take her ration and just take a sip. Right, Well,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: she takes her set and then she takes like two
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: big gulps of though of their leftover water. And Jeff
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: sees this, and she gets mad and plays the victim,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: like tries to play the victim. She's like, oh, fuck you,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I'm thirsty.
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: Like like, don't judge me, I'm just trying to get
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: some water. Like like, girl, you are in you are
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: stuck on a pyramid with little to know food or water,
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: and you're stealing rations.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Like don't play the victim here, you have no you
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: have no right to play the victim. Period, and then
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: later on like the next day after the whole like
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: later the next day after they had amputated Pablo's legs
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: like she and She and Stacy are basically like losing
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: their shit because they don't know what to do. They
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: think that they should try to find a way off
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: off the hill, but at the same time, they don't
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: think they need to like be that strict with the
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: rations because they know that Pablo had left a note
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: for his for his other two friends and they'll soon
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: be there to rescue them, right, But Jack is trying
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: to be practical and he's telling them, like, we can't
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: we can't rely on that, Okay, we can't. We can't
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: act like they're actually gonna come. They may not even come,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: and if they do, they may not come for another week.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: So we have to ration everything. Now they are safe
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: because regularly it does rain. They do experience several rainstorms
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: and they're able to collect more water. But water is cool,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: but they still need food, so they still have to
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: ration the food. But the thing is not wanting to
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: deal with the stress of what they've been going through,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Stacey and an Amy decided to like pop open the
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: remaining bottles of the of the the vodka that was
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: not good tequila. It was alcohol, straight up hardcore alcohol.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: That's what it is, all right. They decided to pop
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: open one of the remaining bottles of uh. I think
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: it was tequila because they're because Mexico.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Is the Mexico tequila.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't want to make that generalization, but I
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: think it was tequila. I was, honestly, I wasn't really
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: paying attention to the to the kind of alcohol they
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: decided to indulge in. I was like, more like, man,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: these these girls are idiots. I was like, I'm over here, like,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: these two are idiots. They get they get wasted, right,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the two proceed to get wasted and things. Jeff and
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Matthias and the others have been like taking turns, like
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: sitting at the bottom of the hill to try to
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: like catch the Greeks if they do show up. And
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: when he comes when his shift ended and he comes
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: back up, he sees how wasted the two of them are,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: and he does get upset, but he doesn't say anything
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: to him. He's just like disappointed in the two of
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: them and more disappointed in the two of them. Eventually,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: after that, after that and the next after that it
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: does rain. They get more water, and Amy and Stacey
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: are able to sober up with the rain marker that
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: they're able to catch. But still later on Jeff does
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Jeff and Amy do get into a pretty massive argument.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know now that argument comes like near the
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: end of the next day. But the next day that's
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: where things start to kind of start to really like
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: like this is like the third day, they're trapped on
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: the on the hill. That's this is where things start
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: to take a turn. They repair the rope for the
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: windlass and they send both Jeff and Amy down into
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: the down into the well again to try to find
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: the phone because they keep hearing the phone ringing and
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: they follow the sound going into the tunnel. Into that
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: tunnel they found but Jeff stops. But Jeff stops them
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: and he's like, there's no phone. He realizes something horrifying
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: and that one there is no phone. It's there was
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: never a phone ringing, and two it was the vines.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: The vines. Now, Jeff had a theory that the vines
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: may actually be more than just a carnivorous plant, but
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: they may actually be intelligent, and they proves it because
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: the because the vine had been mimicking the sound of
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: the phone of a cell phone ringing, and the thing
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: and the sound that the vines were making was luring
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: them to another pit. So there was like another pit
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: down that tunnel, and if they had kept going, they
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: would have fallen down it. They wouldn't have seen it,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: and they would have fallen down because the vines were
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: covering the pit to make it look like it was
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: still a solid surface. But Jeff noticed it in time
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: and pulled both him and Amy back. The two ran
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: back towards the ran back to the Windless, but when
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: they were running back, the vines began to attack them
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and try to ensnare them. They managed to break free,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: and Jeff was smart enough to bring a bottle, one
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: of the last bottles of tequila with him. He took
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: a rag, soaked it, lit it on fire, and tossed
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: it as a Molotov cocktail, and that managed to hold
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: off the vines. But they noticed that the vines. While
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: they were waiting for the wind List to be lowered down,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: they noticed that the vines were making another sound and
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: sound it as if like something was shuffling toward them,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: like something was like walking like heavy like footsteps, and
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: this was freaking them out even more, but they managed
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: the windlass managed to get lowered down in time, and
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: they both were pulled out. After that. This is like
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: where like they basically become more like like their spirits
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: have become more broken. Amy and Jeff do eventually get
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: into a big argument. Amy trying to like you made.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: If you read this book, you may disagree with me,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: but I felt like Amy was playing the victim a
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: lot here and she was trying to pass the blame
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: off to Jeff. Yeah. Now, understandably, Jeff has his own
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: part to play in this whole thing. He was the
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: one that, you know, convinced them all to go with
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Matthias to attempt to go try to find his brother, right,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: So if it wasn't for him, yes, they probably wouldn't
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: have been there. But here's the thing. When Jeff wasn't around,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Stacy and Amy got into an argument, had gotten into
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: an argument with each other, and Eric was also part
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: of it. And the things that they were saying to
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: each other, the vines were listening in and they started
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: throwing their words back at them. So the vines were
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: basically like parroting everything they were saying. So it was
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: kind of funny because this causes like more like mistrust
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: between them because Eric makes it like Eric, who had
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: gotten drunk, had said some things about Matthias, like like,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: you know, if they ever made a movie about us,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: who do you think would play us? Right? And then
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: he makes a comment about how like they'd make Matthias
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: the villain of the story because he's German and you
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: know Nazis. It's basically called Matthias a Nazi. And when
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Amy and Stacey were like freaking out at each other,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Amy blurts out that, like on the reason, like she's
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: like freaking out, She's like, if it was because of me,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I'm the reason why we're stuck up here. If I
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't trying to take a picture, I wouldn't have gotten
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: touched by the I wouldn't have touched the vines, and
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't be trapped up here. Blah. And then later
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: on she and Jeff start arguing with each other and
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: like she had been drinking more and so but this time,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: rather than like admit that like she was also in
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: the wrong, rather you know, own up to like what
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: she's been doing how she's been acting, because you know,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: she and Stacy like after their argument ended up eating
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: pretty much the rest of their food. They just chow
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: decided to just chow down, so there was hardly any
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: food left, and that's what started the argument between her
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: and Jeff and like, rather than own up to what
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: she'd been doing, like the fact that she's drinking, she's
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: wasting their their very limited supplies. You know, she's trying
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: to play the victims like, well, it's not my fault
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: we're here, You're the reason why we're here, blah blah blah.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: And then at that point, the vines start throwing back
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: her worst as she said earlier, like basically like throwing
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: it back at her like like that Taylor Swift song
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: it's me, I'm I'm the problem. It'smids me, Oh my god,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: like like it was me, I'm the problem. And she's
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: just staring, She's standing there. Jeff is like looking at
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: her like, you know, like I'm sorry, you want to
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: say that again? Who is the Who's the reason why
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: we're here? Now? Like who's the problem again? Because I
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: think the vines are on my side here, Like, of
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: course that's not exactly what they said, but like, when
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: you think about it, it's pretty I thought it was
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: funny because the vines like just chimed in right when
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: she's trying to like play herself off as a victim.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: And then the vines were like.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Actually, like correct, girl, let's check your ass.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Like check your ass. And then the thing is she's playing.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: This is like a total narcissist meltdown right here. Because
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: she's playing, she's trying hard to play the victim. She
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: starts crying, balling her eyes out. She runs off, curls
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: up into a ball and just sobbing right trying to
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: get Jeff to feel sympathy for her. But Jeff is
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: just so done with her bullshit that he just like
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't respond to her. He just ignores her. Right. Eventually,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: she gets up and she tries to go up to him,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: but because of how wasted she is, she ends up
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: vomiting again, and in like her messed up state, she
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: passes out and Jeff just leaves her, just leaves her
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: there and goes to sleep. Now this is where Jeff
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: made like, I think Jeff is a bit of the asshole.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: He should have checked up on her and made sure
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: she was okay, because the next morning she doesn't wake up.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: They wait, they get up. Next morning, they go check
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: up on her and Pablo and they realize that she's
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: not breathing. Yeah, and no, she did not choke on
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: her vomit. She choked on the vine that ate her vomit. Yeah,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: you know, m Yeah, So the vine, being attracted to
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: the bile that she had, being attracted to the bile,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: it slithered up, sucked up the vomit that she threw up,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: and and sensing that there was still more bile in
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: her mouth, it shoved itself down her throat and she choked,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: and she ends up dying in the night. So that's
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: how Amy dies.
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And unfortunately, even though Pablo had had started coming
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: to and he was starting to recover more or less,
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: Pablo unfortunately later ends up dying in much the same
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: way the while.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: He was vulnerable. While he was vulnerable, the vines ended
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: up also choking him to death as well by slithering
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: down his throat. That happened during a rainstorm. So after stay,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: after Amy had died, they tried to they tried to
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: bury her body, but they couldn't really dig through the
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: hard packed earth. Of the hell that they're on, so
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: they end up wrapping her body in sleeping bag. After
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: they'd done that, it started raining again, but this time
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: it was like a full on like monsoon, so they
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: were all forced to take shelter. And after the rain
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: they come out to expect, inspect, inspect, like what was
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: left with the campsite. They find that the vines had
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: had broken into the sleeping bag and completely devoured Amy's corpse,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: so nothing is left but bones and they and they
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: check on Pablo, and the thing is, they weren't They
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: didn't properly secure Pablo, like make sure he was sheltered properly,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: and the vines ended up killing him too. He's dead,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: they find they go through after he died. After he dies,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: they go through his stuff and they find his passport
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: and find out his real name is Demetrius, not pob Long,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: and they're like by Demetrius, and the vines end up
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: enshrouding his body and devouring it too. Later that night.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: The thing is, though, when it had rained during the rainstorm,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Jeff had stayed down at the bottom of the hill
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: because he was still dealing dealing with he was dealing
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: with guilt over what happened with Amy, Like he doesn't
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: feel like he was at fault for like the things
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: that Amy had said, but he did feel like he
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: does feel guilty that he didn't check up on her.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: And while when the rainstorm started, he noticed that all
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: of the Mayans had taken shelter right and the bonfires
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: had been smothered by the rain, and he realizes that
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: now visibility is very, very low, so there's a possible
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: there was a chance that Jeff could actually escape the
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: escape the hill, and he decides, fuck it, he's gonna
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: try it. So he tries to sneak across the across
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: the clearing, he sees what may have been an opening
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: for him to get through, but there was still one
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: mine standing in the middle of the clearing because the
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: mine had seen him on the hill, like seeing him
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: down at the base of the hill, so it was
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: still they were still standing there making sure he doesn't leave.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: And he tried to sneak around the mine, but somehow
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I guess the mine still saw him, and the mine
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: shoots him twice, shoots him once the arrow goes straight
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: through his throat and out the other ends like it
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: didn't just like it didn't embed himself in its neck.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: The arrow went clean cleane through. But the thing is
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: is that there's like a gap like in your neck
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: right here, of like between your muscle and your larynx.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: So the arrow just passed cleanly through so didn't hit
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: anything major still left a hole in his neck, but
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: he was still good. He was like, okay, I can
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: still do it. I could make it. Next one hit
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: him in the chest, yep. So the next one hit
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: him in the side, went through his chest. That brought
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: him down. The thing is, Jeff had not made it
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: that far into the clearing, and he was still close
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: enough to the hill that the vines, sensing his blood,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: reached out, wrapped themselves around him and pulled him back
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: to the hill. And even though he was very weakly
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: trying to break free, the vines end up completely enshrouding
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: him and they end up killing him. And then of
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: course morning comes after it finished raining state, the only
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: people left are Stacy, Eric and Matthias. Eric is still
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: in his in a bit of a fugue state, thinking
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: that the vine has been is growing inside of him,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: so they pretty much leave don't pay much attention to him.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: After Stacy and Athia takes stock of the now dead
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Pablo and State and Amy's now fully devoured corpse. They
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: notice that Jeff had not come back from the base
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: of the hill. They go down to the They go
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: down the hill and they see a new mound. And
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: the thing is is that before the vine seems to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: have always been more than happy to completely devour a
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: corpse and leave nothing behind but bones. Right, But when
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: they go down and they see this new mound, they
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: pull the vines off and they see they see Jeff's
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: still partially intact, but he's clearly been dead and the
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: vines have already begun devouring him. But they they had
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: taken their time with him, almost like they wanted him
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: to see that No, almost like they wanted the others
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: to find him ew yep. So, realizing that there's it's
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: just three of them, they go back up the hill.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: The thing is, while Stacian Matthias were down the hill,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Eric gave into his psychosis, grabbed the knife, and he
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: had begun cutting into himself, thinking that there was a
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: vine in him. And the funny thing is is that
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: when he starts cutting into himself, he does find a
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: couple of vines, but he realizes that the parts of
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: his body that he thought had a vine growing in
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: him there wasn't actually a vine. So he basically ends
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: up flaying him almost like flaying into himself, cutting pieces
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: of himself out and not actually finding any vines growing
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: in him. And he was still alive when they came
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: up the hill, but he was like almost like this
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: like skeletal figure when they came up. He was cute.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: He was He didn't like cut like go like that
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: hard into him. He just cut pieces of his flesh out.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: But he's still he was a mess. And Matthias, Yeah,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Matthias tries to take the knife from him, but Jeff
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: reacts and ends up plunging the knife into Matthias's chest
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: and and that's how Matthias dies. Eric, now having lost
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of blood, ends up collapsing and Stacy stays
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: with him and at like as he's bleeding out, he
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: looks up at her and he begs her to kill him,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: and Stacy is like in total shock, not knowing what
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: to do. So eventually like he gets her like key
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: convinces her to grab the knife and she does end
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: up plunging it into his chest, killing him. So now
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: it's just Stacy. Stacy remembering what Jeff had done. She's
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: like completely lost hope. There's no chance that she's gonna
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: make it out. She goes down to the bottom of
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: the hill. She has a knife with her. She sits
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: there at the base of the hill. The Mayans are
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: watching her, and she takes the knife and she cuts. Okay,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: before I go any further disclaimer trigger warning, Yeah I
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: should have said that about Eric, but like, yeah, I
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: think what was different. It was still self harm, but
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like for the purpose of taking his life.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: It was born out of like this paranoid delusion, that
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: delusion that he's being devoured from the inside out by
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: the vines. Right in this case, this is like straight
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: up self harm and suicide. So unpaused, Stacy completely losing
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: hope that they're ever going to be found. She sits
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: at the base of the hill. She's thinking. She her
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: last thoughts is she's thinking of how Jeff and the
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: people before them had tried to leave a warning for others.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: They she thinks maybe she can somehow leave a warning,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: and she does that by cutting into her arms. Basically
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: the down the road to success.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: No, she ends up.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Bleeding out, but before she fully dies, the vines do
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: grab her and pull her into the thicket and envelope her.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: And unfortunately that's guys, but they leave. The vines aren't
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: gonna leave, like let her like leave like that, Oh dinner.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: After that, the viands start packing up because like when
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: she went down the hill, she notices the mines are
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: already starting to pack up because like they know that,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: they already know that, like it's just it was just
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: we're done, our work is done here. So all five
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: of them are gone.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: And it's not a day later, it's only like I think,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: like three days later is when the Greeks show up.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: And the Greek said, made friends with more people.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, being good today.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: They followed the map that Pablo had left for them.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: They find the path easily because since the mines had
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: since it just had the rainstorm, the Mians had just
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: come up and down the path, they could easily see like,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: oh hey, there's the path, and they go down it.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: And the thing is, the mines had posted one of
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: their children to watch the path, steeping eye on the
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: path for now, and she sees them and immediately runs
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: to the runs to get them, runs to warn of
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: the village. By the time the rest of the villagers
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: show up at the mountain, the Mayans like foolishly had
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: our not the mines, the Greeks and their new group
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: had their new posse had already gone up the hill.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: And now that's where the book ends. Now in the movie,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: though Jeff made it to the very end, and so
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: I had Stacy. The thing is, though, like Jeff did
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: something clever to distract the does something clever in the
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: movie to distract the Miyans. And once the minds were distracted,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: like Amy no sorry Stacy who had been playing dead,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: did she he carried her down. He carried her body
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: down the pyramid and places her on the ground, and
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: he leads the minds away from her corpse. And once
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: they're distracted, she gets up and runs out. So she survives.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: And there was still like a there was like a
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: jeep there from like the archaeologic archaeologist. The the archaeologist
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: had left behind, and she managed to like she had
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: the key and she managed to start it and escape.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: And then a couple of days later, the Pablo's friends
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: showed up, so someone does this. In the movie, someone
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: manages to escape, but in the book no one escapes.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: So that is where the Ruins ends. Now, I will
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: say the Ruins did tickle a bit of did tickle
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: an itch because like I personally, I love I love monsters.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: I love creature features, like anything with like a unique
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: and unusual creature, Like I love those kind of stories
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: like like as you can tell.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of which, Frankenstein comes out today.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. I'mna be watching
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: it later with Alex.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 8: But yeah, but I love monster features. I literally bought
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 8: a book. But where is it?
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: There is Kaiju Preservation Society. I love monsters. I love
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: movie monsters.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 9: I love like weird crazy monsters, all right, love it
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 9: and the Ruins it it definitely tickled that itch, that
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 9: craving that I have or like unique monsters.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: And while it's a plant, it's still that it's still
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: a unique creature, all right. And I want to say,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: like the thing about the plants that the vines is
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: that it's it becomes very clear to the group how
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: dangerous these vines are, not just because they they're gonna
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: straight up eat them. But because they also realize that
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: these vines, there's a reason why the Mayans are not
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: allowing anybody to leave. If anybody gets on the hill
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: and touches the vines, no one is going to leave.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: And that's because of the way the vines proliferate, the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: way they reproduce. Okay, they reproduce by some sort of
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: pollen or spore, so's they're not sea based plants. They
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: are like they're kind of like a fungus which reproduces
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: by like spores. Now, funny thing is probably enough the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: spores they don't have like a natural pollinator, so there's
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: no bugs or insects or even birds or the animals
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: that carry them. Because the groups their ever approaches the hill,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: there are no bugs, the skills poller. There's no bird.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: The fact that Jeff, but when you throw the rock
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: into the think of the immediately like kind of snap
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: together around the rock. And he realizes that that's why.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Because anything that is stupid enough to let on the
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: hill the vines up, and anything that has her botty
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: actually notes stay, something's happened. I'm polinary to carry. There's
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: four so other places quarantine all this sil all right,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: but every time since they have they've touched the mines,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: they brushed them, against them, the source on them, and
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: throughout the book noticing those are the mines are growing
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: on their clothes like full on a spring, like a
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: whole like six for their clothes. They haven't seen a
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: little fuzz begin to here and it's ea through their clothes.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: It's like me and practically wearing table. But the vine
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: cutting the material they're closes, causing into one of the
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: girls are just taste ain't now.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: In the movie gets away, so do the spores.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, so do the sport so unfortunly never asked sequel,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: there's no there's no sequels this book. There is another book, Invice,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: but it's it's a totally different story. Uh yeah, both
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: of them are make lease. I mean this plan into later.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: But the Ruins was the one that caught my attention,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: and I've had this on my shelf for so I
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: finally got around reading and there's but actually like like
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: there's I was reading, like my immediate to be read
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: list is like the War of the World's. I'm in
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: the process of reading the last book, the newest book
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: in the Dungeon Crawlers series. Uh should I already forgot it?
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: This Inevitable Ruin. And then I also got one of
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: the book up here. It's called The Warded Man from
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: the demon Cycle series, and oh I forgot. I also
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: have the spell Shop, so I have books. I have
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of books to read. The Ruins was one
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: of them that I've been wanting to read for ages. Uh,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: finally read it. Uh, not gonna lie. I was someone
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: I was a little disappointed with it because I was
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: hoping there'd be more of a lore and maybe possibly
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: like more to this story, like like I thought, I
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: was kind of hoping that maybe Stacey did survive and
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: that led into like a sequel where the plants get
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: out of control and cause like another problem or you know,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: it goes from from the perspective of the new group
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: that gets trapped on the hill. But it's a standalone novel.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: I think it is worth the read. Though, if you're
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: though in this case, you're there's no real there's no
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: real major difference between the book and the movie. If
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: you want a cheesy movie from the two thousands, like
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: a cheesy horror movie from the two thousands, you want
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: to watch that it for what it is, for the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: budget that it was made on, it was actually pretty good. Yeah,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: definitely watched. Definitely consider watching The Ruins. It's definitely it's
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: I think it would be considered a classic horror movie now.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I mean it's almost it's actually almost twenty years old.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: Now, it's crazy, I know, right old.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Or vintage. I'm such a dick. Wednesday I went out
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: to my I went out with my brother for his
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: birthday and we went to Texas Roadhouse. Thing is, he
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: was not the only birthday boy there. There were other
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: people there celebrating their birthday and things. We didn't tell
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: the weight staff that it's his birthday, but the other
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: people did so the way. So, like right next to
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: our table, this other girl was also having her birthday dinner,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: and the staff went up and did the whole you know,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: like you know, half the birthday kind of deal, like
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: let's give him a Texas Yeah, yeah, let's congratulate hers.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: This is her twenty fifth birthday. And when everyone in
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: the restaurants yelled congratulations, I almost went congratulations your vintage now,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: but I didn't. I had more restraint.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, that explains a lot. I'm sure Alice looks
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: like the type that likes vintage. He's vintage too, but
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: he's not as vnted as you. I'm Mint, Okay, Mint,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: You're turning thirty one in a couple of weeks, you
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: old grandpa.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I still have my elbow.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: I lost that in my twenties. It was a rough year.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: God damn. Late twenties are rough, y'all.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm It's okay there, misties.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: I'm turning thirty four next. I'm only missing my mids.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: You were twenty.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: You were twenty eight when I met you. No wait, wait,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: we've got in like twenty eighteen.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, Yeah, you're right. I was the ripe age
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: of twenty eight. I was young and youthful. Brother, ew brother,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: h brother, thats is like, what twenty four twenty five?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's let me see the twenty eight twenty four.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: I was turning twenty five.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: When your prime.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Prime where.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: You're in your prime?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah? But anyway, guys, that okay, that was the ruins.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: If you want to read it, If you want to
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: read it, pick up a book. You'll most likely find
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: it at your local library. You'll probably you'll probably find
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: it on any platform, iTunes, Kindle, and of course you
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: can you can stream it online. I think it's on
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: h I think it's on Paramount.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: That makes sense because I did release it.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you probably you can stream it on Paramount. Uh,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: definitely recommend. I'd say this was like a three and
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: a half out of five. I'll give it three and
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: a half out of five stars. It's still a good
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: it was still a good book. But you know, it
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: wasn't really what I was hoping for. I wanted more
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: from the book, but I pretty much got like the same,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: if just only a little bit more than what the
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: movie gave you. Yeah, So if you want to if
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: you're not really feeling like reading it, in this case,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: I would say, just watch the movie.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Watch the room.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just watch the movie. I mean the CGI. I
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: won't say it's terrible, but it wasn't great.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: He's talking about m all right, Well, thank you all
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: for listening today's episode. Catch you all next time as
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: I talk about something, because I'm gonna talk about something
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: something related until then, by y'all need