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INTERVIEW: Dee-1 Talks New Album, Rap Life, Teaching Students, Working With Jimmy Hensman, The Game + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Morning, everybody, It's DJ Envy, Jesselarioscharla mean the guy. We
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  Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in
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  Speaker 2: the building, got the brother d One.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome Brom d Man. Thank y'all for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Man, I didn't know this was your first time up here.
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  Speaker 2: I thought for sure you was up here with D One,
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  Speaker 2: was up here before you. Serious, Bro, I honestly did.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 4: Well, hey, that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good thing. That means my presence must be
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  Speaker 3: getting felt. You hear me even if I wasn't here.
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  Speaker 5: You know, because you running the D one so much,
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  Speaker 5: so many times back in the day. He's running D
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  Speaker 5: one a lot.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Want to just be you know, you be out.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that you go touching the people. That's that's
• 0:37
  Speaker 6: always been the goal. I've been to your book signers
• 0:39
  Speaker 6: before you hear me. In South Carolina, I just send
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  Speaker 6: you backstage at a three C not really working because
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  Speaker 6: I never had anything given to me in this industry.
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  Speaker 6: So when I stopped being a middle school teacher baging Louisiana,
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  Speaker 6: I was like, damn about to be a rapper.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 6: It was important for me to go out there and
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  Speaker 6: make it happen. So how you make it happen you
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  Speaker 6: form organic connections.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw you. Know you showed me to twot
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  Speaker 5: that saw you when you posted it earlier this week.
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  Speaker 5: But when he did decipher back in twenty fourteen, Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 5: I just tweeted d One spitting yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because he was. So it's good to see you still
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  Speaker 1: ten years later.
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  Speaker 6: Bro here organic, bro, longevity is so hard to accomplish.
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  Speaker 3: In this industry.
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  Speaker 6: So that's one thing I pride myself on is I
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  Speaker 6: remember when I was a teacher in Louisiana.
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  Speaker 3: I used to be Fredo Bang's middle school teacher.
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  Speaker 6: You heard me, like literally, And I remember before I
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  Speaker 6: told my class like, look, I'm about to stop teaching
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  Speaker 6: after this year to be a rapper.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, dang, is.
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  Speaker 6: There gonna be longevity in the music industry the way
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  Speaker 6: there is if I was to stay being a teacher,
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  Speaker 6: And all these years later, I'm still here and still
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  Speaker 6: ascending you hear me.
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  Speaker 3: So that's God, Bro, That's why I know my path
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  Speaker 3: is divine.
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  Speaker 6: Nobody could say, well, d you had this person to
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  Speaker 6: put you on God orchestrated my blessings bro to where
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  Speaker 6: nobody could get the credit it stuff for him from me.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say that was gonna ask you tell
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  Speaker 2: you said you're a Fredo Bang's teacher. Did you know
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  Speaker 2: when you were teaching him that he was gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a rapper he was gonna be a star?
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  Speaker 3: Not at all? No, I just knew he was a
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  Speaker 3: funny little dude. He was cool.
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  Speaker 6: He had a sense of humor, and he was smart,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And he was not to
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  Speaker 6: be playing played with. He was serious, you know, he
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  Speaker 6: was serious about just demanding his respect.
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  Speaker 4: But it was just a cool dude.
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  Speaker 5: I did a video with him because you put out album.
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  Speaker 1: Called Yes I'm Sad, and like you know, I.
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  Speaker 5: Did a video with him encouraging him to go to
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  Speaker 5: go to therapy, and then I actually connected him with
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  Speaker 5: a therapist. That's that's coming out soon. He actually sat
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  Speaker 5: down with a real therapist. And I don't suggest people broadcasted,
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  Speaker 5: but if they want to, I'm not mad at it.
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  Speaker 3: What if people broadcast going to therapy.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, sitting down like the actual session, like, oh,
• 2:38
  Speaker 5: the actual session, didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Doing the actual sesson I'm not sure. I'm not really here.
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  Speaker 5: I think I did that once for VH one, and
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  Speaker 5: I never doing like that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, bro, because it's hard to be transparent, that's right,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, super hard to be I
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  Speaker 6: went to therapy.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, right after that BT Sipher, I started going to therapy.
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  Speaker 5: Bro.
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  Speaker 6: I was signed to r c A at the time, right,
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  Speaker 6: And you know you're on the BT Sipher, you think
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  Speaker 6: in your life about to change after this, Like That's
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  Speaker 6: what I was thinking.
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  Speaker 3: And nothing changed after that night, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Nothing changed after that night.
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  Speaker 6: So I was like, damn man, and I was feeling like,
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  Speaker 6: I know I'm the underdog in this industry because you know,
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  Speaker 6: I'm on some I'm on some righteous stuff. I'm on
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  Speaker 6: some put god first stuff. I come from New Orleans. Like,
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  Speaker 6: after that, I felt I blew my shot and it
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  Speaker 6: started messing with me with me mentally to where I
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  Speaker 6: was like, dang, I kind of don't even want to
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  Speaker 6: be here no more.
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  Speaker 3: Not in the industry, but on this earth. And when I.
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  Speaker 6: Started realizing like that, I'm having suicidal thoughts behind feeling
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  Speaker 6: like I'm professionally a failure, I realized I couldn't separate David.
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  Speaker 3: From d one at that point, and that was unhealthy,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 6: And for the first time in life, I went to
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  Speaker 6: therapy because I was like talking to my friends that
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  Speaker 6: ain't getting it at this point, talking to my grandma
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  Speaker 6: rest in peace, that ain't cutting it at this point.
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  Speaker 6: So therapy really did help me, but ultimately would helped
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  Speaker 6: me even more than therapy was understanding my God given purpose.
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  Speaker 3: For like, man, I know who my creator is.
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  Speaker 6: I know why I was put here, and I was
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  Speaker 6: put here to glorify him. So who am I to
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  Speaker 6: think that my whole life is a failure because one
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  Speaker 6: moment didn't elevate me professionally.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I wondered about that because you know you went you
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  Speaker 5: you went to LSU, right, Yeah, I graduated from ls
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  Speaker 5: You got kicked off the basketball team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you didn't have those thoughts then.
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  Speaker 6: Like, man, No, my freshman year, first, before I got
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  Speaker 6: kicked off the basketball team, my girlfriend cheated on me
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  Speaker 6: with a couple of football players, he.
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  Speaker 4: Said, a couple, not even one.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you feel that pain, Yeah, Like I still my
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  Speaker 6: heart just jumped when I said it. Ast you to man,
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  Speaker 6: that stuff that happened freshman year. Then I got cut
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  Speaker 6: from the basketball team. Then my roommates started selling drugs.
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  Speaker 1: You heard me.
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  Speaker 6: When we got to l s U, we shared a
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  Speaker 6: dawn rum. Then one of my best friends in New
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  Speaker 6: Orleans got murdered, so I got that. I got the
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  Speaker 6: text message. When I was in English class. I looked
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  Speaker 6: down at my phone and my homegirl told me that
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  Speaker 6: my boy Ryan had just got murdered.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 6: All this happened freshman year. So that was the first
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  Speaker 6: life changing, like rock altering moment that I had. And
• 5:03
  Speaker 6: during that time I could have found the streets. I
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  Speaker 6: could have found a lot of stuff. I found God
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  Speaker 6: in a real way, in a real way, like not
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  Speaker 6: in just like a week from the south.
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  Speaker 3: So we all believe in God, but.
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  Speaker 6: Like, no, like I get it, Like I submit everything
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  Speaker 6: to you God from this day moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: My only role out on trying to be like is Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: You heard me?
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  Speaker 6: And I started living like that and I started rapping.
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  Speaker 6: Rapping was my therapy at that time. So when I
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  Speaker 6: started rapping, I had a lot to talk about and
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  Speaker 6: I was like, why would I glorify murder when my
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  Speaker 6: best friends just got murdered? Why would I glorify smashing
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  Speaker 6: your girl when a couple of football players.
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  Speaker 3: Just smash my girl.
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  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Why would I glorify a
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  Speaker 6: whole bunch of money that I know I ain't got you,
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  Speaker 6: feel me? When that that ain't just how I'm living.
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  Speaker 6: So from day one, rap was an outlet for me
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  Speaker 6: to be able to spit reality. But you got to
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  Speaker 6: make that reality charismatic and entertaining. So I just had
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  Speaker 6: to get real good and spitting reality. No.
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  Speaker 1: I'm from NEWORLEANWI.
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  Speaker 3: I went to college in band Ruge, and I taught
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  Speaker 3: in band Ruge.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, let me ask you. You know they consider you
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  Speaker 4: a Christian rapper, right.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if they do or not.
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  Speaker 2: You know, because the reason is is I feel like
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  Speaker 2: they put you in a box. But there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of rappers that preach positivity and don't preach gang, don't
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  Speaker 2: preach guns, don't preach violence, and they're not putting that
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  Speaker 2: same box.
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  Speaker 4: But they seem to put you in that bo.
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  Speaker 6: You know why, It's because they smart. The other rappers
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  Speaker 6: they crafty. I ain't gonna say it's smart.
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  Speaker 3: They crafty.
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  Speaker 6: Though they had a positive message, but then they'll sprinkle
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  Speaker 6: in some but I smash your girl, you know what
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  Speaker 6: I mean, Or like my partners will come to spin.
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  Speaker 3: A bend and and and and and and and murk
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  Speaker 3: you you know what I mean. They're they'll slide a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of that in there.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't think that's I don't think me put
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  Speaker 3: the candy in the medicine.
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  Speaker 1: No, put the medicine in the candy.
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  Speaker 6: Put the medicine in the candy. Yeah, so they and
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  Speaker 6: I don't think that that's I don't think that that's
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  Speaker 6: wise because I's just like that kind of comes across lukewarm,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: So with me, it's one of.
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  Speaker 6: The things where I was like, if I got to
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  Speaker 6: sacrifice a little bit of professional like growth in order
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  Speaker 6: to say I'm gonna be uncompromising about my message, I'm
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  Speaker 6: down for it because wherever I get, that's where I
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  Speaker 6: was meant to be in God's eyes. You know a
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  Speaker 6: lot of people got selfish ambition, and that's different from
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  Speaker 6: godly ambition. What godly ambition is God, I just wanna
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  Speaker 6: make you proud, And wherever that lamb me at, I'm content.
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  Speaker 6: Selfish ambition is the world telling me to chase being
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  Speaker 6: a billionaire, the world telling me this's the newest car
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  Speaker 6: to get, the world telling me that this the brands
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  Speaker 6: I need to be rocking. That's selfish ambition that had
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  Speaker 6: you chasing or moving target for your whole life. And
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  Speaker 6: I never fell victim to that because around the time
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  Speaker 6: I was starting to get materialistic, I went to Ghano
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  Speaker 6: when I was thirteen years old.
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  Speaker 3: I saw real poverty. I thought I grew up in
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  Speaker 3: the hood till I went to Ghana. You feel me.
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  Speaker 6: I came back. Man, I'm not tripping on jibo jeans
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  Speaker 6: no more. I'm not tripping on you know, having a Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: have this jewelry and be like the hot boys or whatever. Man,
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  Speaker 6: I just seen people who they joy is their weapon,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. I don't need to carry
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  Speaker 6: no gun. My joy is my weapon moving forward. I
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  Speaker 6: want my smile to light the room up when I
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  Speaker 6: come in there. That's what I've been on for a
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  Speaker 6: long time. So you apply that to the rap game,
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  Speaker 6: and people gonna be like, oh, he different, and because
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  Speaker 6: he different and he he loved God.
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  Speaker 3: He a Christian rapper, You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 6: If that's what people call me cool, but a lot
• 8:11
  Speaker 6: of people they're just like nah, bro, he's a college professor,
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  Speaker 6: he's a Harvard University fellow, he's a dope rapper, he's
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  Speaker 6: an activist, he's you know, he's a bunch of things.
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  Speaker 6: He's an author. This is my children's book.
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  Speaker 3: I just wrote. Yeah so that I wrote that at
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  Speaker 3: Harvard last year. And it's uh based on.
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  Speaker 1: You being bullied while growing up. Right.
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  Speaker 6: I used to bullet when I was in kindergarten, you know,
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  Speaker 6: like a lot of people, and when I was bullied
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  Speaker 6: at the time, I didn't know how to you know,
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  Speaker 6: I didn't know how to get over that. So this
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  Speaker 6: is an anti bullying hip hop children's book because uh, yeah, bro,
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  Speaker 6: just like the story of David and Goliath, David was
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  Speaker 6: able to defeat.
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  Speaker 3: Goliath when he found his sling shot.
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  Speaker 6: You feel me, David didn't use nobody else's weapons when
• 8:52
  Speaker 6: they was like here, take this shield, take this sword.
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  Speaker 6: He was like, now I'm good on that. I know
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  Speaker 6: what my gift is. My gift is using this sling shot.
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  Speaker 6: The way I overcame my bully is I found my
• 9:02
  Speaker 6: sling shot. And you know, when you read the book,
• 9:05
  Speaker 6: you realize what my sling shot is, but you realize
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  Speaker 6: that we all got a sling shot. And when you
• 9:09
  Speaker 6: find your sling shot in life and you use it
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  Speaker 6: for the purpose God designed it for, You're going to
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  Speaker 6: defeat the golias in your world too.
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  Speaker 1: I love that, you know.
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  Speaker 5: You know, when Biggie said, I'm black and ugly as ever, however,
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  Speaker 5: always say that.
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  Speaker 1: All of us have it.
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  Speaker 6: However, all of us got a how all of us
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  Speaker 6: thank you, bro, And that's I just want hip hop
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  Speaker 6: to start being like hip hop is my sling shot, clearly, Bro.
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  Speaker 6: Rapping is what got me here. I'm on the breakfast
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  Speaker 6: club right now, Bro, Like this is huge. Like I
• 9:35
  Speaker 6: don't want to act like this is just normal to me.
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  Speaker 6: I know every thought I've been here. You know what
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  Speaker 6: I'm saying, Bro, There's still a big deal to me, bro,
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  Speaker 6: And a lot of people are cheering for me right now,
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  Speaker 6: a lot of people who've been a part of my
• 9:45
  Speaker 6: whole journey. But I just want us to like look
• 9:48
  Speaker 6: at hip hop as being a tool that we could
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  Speaker 6: use in a more healthy way to help us reach
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  Speaker 6: our goals in life. Bro, if you listening to music,
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  Speaker 6: and if you're making music, it shouldn't have to glorify murder.
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  Speaker 6: It shouldn't have to glorify drug dealing. It shouldn't have
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  Speaker 6: to do that. She goes it shouldn't, you know, it
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  Speaker 6: shouldn't have to do all that stuff in order to
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  Speaker 6: get us where we're going in life.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm just trying to show people that I'm a
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  Speaker 6: success story. So if I could do it while other
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  Speaker 6: people can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to just a liars?
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  Speaker 3: You can have a hug. Now you got a book
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  Speaker 3: for you, Yeah, okay, this is yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: You were very vocal about rappers using their platform. You
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: spoke about of course me and Jim Jones, Rick Ross,
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  Speaker 2: and you were upset with You felt like the music
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: that they put out was hurting the youth opposed to helping.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, break that down a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: And all those brothers in their music have uplifting songs
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: and positive songs. It's not just all about bang bang
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: shoot them up after your girl, But you felt like
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: the singles that they put out were well.
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  Speaker 6: I just feel like we got a lot of selective
• 10:50
  Speaker 6: outrage in the black community in general, a lot of
• 10:53
  Speaker 6: selective outrage if a white person say the N word
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  Speaker 6: one time, all it take is one time for them
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  Speaker 6: to say it.
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  Speaker 3: We at the top, we on their head.
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  Speaker 6: Oh no, you say, damn world, we're trying to cancel you.
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  Speaker 6: We'll never let you forget that. But if artists, if
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  Speaker 6: it's like yo, where they rap about murdering people, you know,
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  Speaker 6: in fifty percent of their songs, but in the other
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  Speaker 6: fifty percent or all in eighty percent of their songs,
• 11:13
  Speaker 6: but twenty percent they rap about economic empowerment and some
• 11:18
  Speaker 6: positive stuff like.
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  Speaker 3: Shouldn't that be okay? We're content with a state of
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  Speaker 3: lukewarm this, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: That's something that I'm just like, Yo, that's confusing. That's
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  Speaker 6: confusing to these kids. I'm with the kids on a
• 11:28
  Speaker 6: daily basis.
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  Speaker 3: You feel me.
• 11:30
  Speaker 6: I'm a college professor currently in addition to being a rapper, Like,
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  Speaker 6: I'm seeing that these kids who ain't from the trenches
• 11:36
  Speaker 6: at all, now their identity is rooted in like, well,
• 11:39
  Speaker 6: if I'm black, I gotta be able to relate to
• 11:42
  Speaker 6: this type of music to even feel like I'm authentically black.
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  Speaker 3: And that's because that's what's getting pushed. And I'm just
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  Speaker 3: telling the.
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  Speaker 6: Artists like, bro, we know, like we made it from
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  Speaker 6: that we shouldn't have to be glorifying that stuff. There's
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  Speaker 6: a difference between narration and glorification. You feel me when
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  Speaker 6: you narrating something. Man, I came from this hood. I
• 11:59
  Speaker 6: came from the East Side night Walter in New Orleans.
• 12:01
  Speaker 6: I've seen this. My best friend got killed. Glorification is Look,
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna be the one to come when I get
• 12:08
  Speaker 6: off breakfast club and come mrk something. I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 6: the one to come slide on my apps. I'm I'm
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  Speaker 6: gonna give my young boy.
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  Speaker 3: A bag to go and get you dead. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: We are content with the glorification of drug dealing and
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  Speaker 6: murdering and disrespecting our women.
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  Speaker 3: And that's a problem, bro, is it not?
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: It's it's definitely a problem.
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  Speaker 5: What if we switched our our mindset about how we
• 12:32
  Speaker 5: look at the music, Like, is there a way to
• 12:34
  Speaker 5: look at the music?
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  Speaker 1: Is just entertainment, the same way we look at movies.
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  Speaker 1: You you TV?
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  Speaker 3: You being serious right now? Are you just playing devils?
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  Speaker 5: Because these people, all these people are in character. It's
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: not like they're saying, hey, my name is such as that.
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  Speaker 1: They're all in character. We do it in movies and
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: TV shows.
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  Speaker 5: We know it's not real, and they glorified even worse
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  Speaker 5: probably than the music.
• 12:53
  Speaker 7: I think, I, yeah, you're playing you get your budd
• 13:00
  Speaker 7: also feel like what Challan says, not to say it,
• 13:02
  Speaker 7: and I get what you're saying that it's an influence.
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: But we know these are rappers. Ain't killing nobody.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: No, we don't know that.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: They're not running around shooting nobody majority of them, Bro,
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: are you serious?
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: They are heavy?
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: Listen, listen you listen, Bro. I just watched y'all show
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: the other day. Bro, I'm a fan of the show.
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: First of all, I just watched the show when y'all
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: had my brother French Mantana up.
• 13:25
  Speaker 6: Here, the young brother with Fred not not not the
• 13:28
  Speaker 6: young queen, but the young brother with He was like,
• 13:31
  Speaker 6: y'all you was like, yo, French smashing of the rappers.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: Wise.
• 13:34
  Speaker 6: French was like, nah, that's rap, cap, I'm just saying that.
• 13:37
  Speaker 6: The young brother was like, man, I make drill rap,
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: Like what you mean if we ain't living it, like, shoot,
• 13:42
  Speaker 6: that's lame. We gotta be living Scheana.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 13:45
  Speaker 6: They're telling you that, Bro, They're telling you like, no,
• 13:47
  Speaker 6: this ain't just fiction rap like this is non fiction.
• 13:51
  Speaker 6: Rappers implied to this auto biographical, and you're telling your
• 13:54
  Speaker 6: real story.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: You heard me.
• 13:56
  Speaker 6: D one is just a stage name. It's not a character.
• 13:59
  Speaker 6: It's extension of who David Augerstein is. That's what rap is, bro.
• 14:03
  Speaker 6: I could remember my favorite rap lyrics from The Hot
• 14:06
  Speaker 6: Boys from twenty years ago.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: I can't. I don't.
• 14:09
  Speaker 6: I don't walk around quoting my favorite movies from twenty
• 14:12
  Speaker 6: years ago, line for line from the whole movie.
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: But I could wrap you any Lil Wayne lyrics from
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: twenty years ago.
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: I definitely got me a thirty eight snub nose because
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: of tupacin Juice third.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: That was a movie, though, That's what I'm saying.
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: I've definitely been a I can't see that goa haven't
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: been influenced by movie.
• 14:27
  Speaker 6: You get mold though, that we are way more influenced
• 14:30
  Speaker 6: by music than we all movies, bro. And at the
• 14:32
  Speaker 6: same time, when the last time you seen these actors
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: from movies out here getting killed and getting rico charges
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: and getting putting it, I agree, thank you. So since
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: we agree with that, it's clear that like music has
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: this pull on us, but we content with this state
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: of lukewarm in this show I'm telling y'all, and all
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: I'm saying is we all massively successful. Who's sitting here
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: right now, all of us massively successful with our platform.
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: Like I feel called to not make the next generation
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: feel content with with saying yeah, like let's glorify this stuff,
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: but not let's just not go do it in real life.
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: I wonder if you can narrate without glorifying. I don't
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: think you can, because even somebody like I think about
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: the jay Z. Jay Z has always been a narrator.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: He's always told you the good, the bad, the ugly,
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: the consequences everything. That don't mean you still won't go
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: out there and experience it for yourself because a lot
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: of time but Nah's the same way that now Is glorifies.
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: I mean he narrates it, you know, like I can't.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: It's just to me.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: It's kind of the.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Nas talks about it, and a lot of it, I'm not.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Nias talks about a lot of the life that he
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: lived in Queens and a lot of it was the
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: stuff that we're talking about, drugs and guns and all
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: that other stuff. But NAIs also has a lot of
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: records that's positivity.
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: I'm saying, now's my favorite rapper. I'm saying like nas
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: inspired me to be like, oh, this is a sophisticated
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: hood dude same as me, Like I can relate to that,
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: Like he clearly smart, but he's seen a lot of stuff.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: He's been through a lot of stuff.
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: Glorifying something is just simply saying, Bro, how many records
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: that are either getting played on the radio or that's
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: at the top of these playlists nowadays? How many records
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: are glorifying I'm gonna spin on my apps.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: I'm spinning the being, I'm sliding on you. I'm gonna
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: bust your head, like, come on.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: That's glorification, bro. Narration is saying, Yo, I've seen this
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: stuff in my past. This happened to my best friend,
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: Da Da Da Da da man one of my students
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: murdered another one of.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: My students who I used to teach this is real life.
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: If I'm narrating that, I'm still talking about murder, but
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: I'm not glorifying it.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Like that's to be replicated and duplicated. You feel me.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: I wonder about people's environments too, though, because I feel
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: like the environment you come up and influences you way
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: more than music would. I just think the problem sometimes
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: is that people provide soundtracks for the environment.
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, so that's where as OG's and hip hop
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: and as success stories, we should be able to yo
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: to the youngest coming up. Let me show you how
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: you can take that environment and make your environment be
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: a product of you because.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: You was chosen. You hear me.
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: If you're an artist and you got a huge platform,
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: you know what our responsibility is.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: It's to make the revolution irresistible. That's a famous quote.
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: The role of the artist is to make the revolution irresistible.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: That means you can take something. You could take concrete
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: and you could be the roles that grew from it
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: and have everybody looking like how did you do that?
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: And it's like I'm gonna show yall. I'm gonna y
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: all the blueprint we chosen. Yo. You know how many
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: people wrapped in this world, but they're not here right now.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I clearly was chosen.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: It's bigger than me. I could spit with the best them.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: I'm better than ninety five percent of the rappers in
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: this world. I know that you know what I'm saying.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: But with that being said, it's still takes more than
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: just talent. So I was chosen. So it's like, dangn
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: since I made it, what's my responsibility. It's not to
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: keep feeding lies to people.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I didn't have.
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: Rappers had these type of convoys with me outside the booth,
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: and then the engineer'll be like, all right, the beat
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: is ready, and they leave from their chair. They go
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: hop in the boot and they gonna kill faulty people
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: in their song.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: But some of but some of your favorite rappers do
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: the same, Like you're talking about Lil Wayne, Lila.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Wayne has has said it, Jay has said it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Now, that's not that's what.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: There's also a lot of rappers that are doing it.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: On the positive side, you got your chance to rappers.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: You got your j Coles, you got your Kendrick.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Even the new ones. I love the Russell you got,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I love rahaps you got Kendrick. I give what you.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I feel like the last ten years of hip hop,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: at least.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: The guys that were really really on top, with the
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: exception of Maybe Future, they are nothing like the artists
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: we grew up on, like J Cole, Kendrick Drag.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: They're nothing like we grew up on.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Some cbfore the envy was putting guns in his manolo
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: blocks because.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Rappers was talking about it. But whatever what I'm saying,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: we grew up in the area.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: You had to be hardcore, you had to be just
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: to survive facts.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: You know, Well, think about it like this.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: We can name all of the artists who y'all saying
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: got a message nay music, probably on two hands.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, there's whole.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Genres of rap, trap, rap, drill rap a genre because
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: system like one hundreds of artists, they got a whole
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: genres that dedicated to the murder music at this point,
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: they got a whole genres just dedicated to the negativity
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: being glorified.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: Unfortunately with our young queens, our women, what's being rapped
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: about vagina booty, you know what I'm saying, just the
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: power of what was between the lead.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Though. Yeah, but how do you change that? Because you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: how do you change that?
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Because I heard you said in the interview it's like,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: you know a lot of these rappers you feel are
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: serving two masters, right, yeah, the man upstairs and then
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: or the man and woman upstairs, and then also the money.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: So how do you change that?
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: You gotta pick one. And who created you? Did money
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: create you? Or did God create you? God created you?
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: So that's what you're.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: Supposed to be serving. Don't become a slave to a
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: green piece of paper. Shout out to my brother Styles
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: p Man, that's a song of his. I lived my
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: whole life for a green piece of paper, you know
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: what I mean. I'm like, dang that that song hit
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: me back when I was in school because I was like, dang,
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: I don't want to live my whole life for a
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: green piece of paper that could be torn up and
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: then once you teed it up, it has no value.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I don't want to do that.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Man, You don't think that.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: People have to evolve. They have to they have to
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: see it in themselves.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Like we've seen j Evol, We've seen Styles p Evol,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: some of these people stabbing Styles was like.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Jesus put it. But I always tell you Block that
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I loved Block. I love their growth and the evolution.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: But growing up, when I used to listen to d
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: block music, I used to want to stab somebody with
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: something sharp.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: You just said it, didn't you. At Queen's Bridge on
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: the side of his head when he had hair Oh.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Wow, I want you to I don't disagree with nothing
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: you're saying. The only thing I want is that I
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: don't like when you say what you say and then
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: people take it away and then they want to get violent.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, how can you.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying? I want people to hear you,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: but you're not wrong.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't have any beef with any artists.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: By the way, like I'm.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Full of love.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: I hope y'all could feel that radiating from me. I'm
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: also knowing that, like man, time is ticking. Man, we
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: all got an expiration date and we don't know when
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: it is. When I was in college, Jeremy and I
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: had three dudes walk up on me out the blue.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: I was playing one on one basketball with my boy
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: and these dudes walked up.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: They thought we had broken their homeboy's car. You heard me.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: So they was like, man, y'all broken out pot and
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: the car. We was like, nah, not at all. They
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: was like, man, y'all lying. One of the dudes pulled
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: a gun out. Dude got a gun right here on
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: my temple.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: Real quick, I got my hands up like this, I'm like, damn, bro,
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: I never thought I'd died as same way. My best
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: friend just got killed a couple years ago. I thought
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: my life was over right there, by the grace of God.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: The girl was walking to her apartment. She looked down
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: at the basketball court. She was like like, oh my god,
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And they looked up and
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: they got spooks, so they put the gun up. They
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: ran right in that moment, I was like, oh, shoot,
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: I'm sure it's an impact over income.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: Because if I'd have died in that moment, all the
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: money that I had, that money couldn't have did nothing,
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: but the impact that I left in this world, that
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: impact would be here forever, even after my life was gone.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: So that's when I was like, I'm not gonna be
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: I was a business major, you feel me. I used
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: to intern for Jimmy Hinchman up here in New York
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: when I was in college. I was gonna work in
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: corporate America. Man.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I was like, forget that, I'm gonna be a teacher.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I became a middle school teacher.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: When I was a middle school teacher, one of my
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: students came in class one day with Mob tatted on
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: his arm, the same with CHARLOA man had QB tatted
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: on his head. Right, my student came in with MOB
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: on his arm. I said, Bro, what made you get
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: that tattooed?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: You know what that stand for?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Money over?
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: He was like, no, sir, I don't know what that means.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: And I was like, then why did you get it?
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: Because his favorite rapper, Lil Wayne has a tattooed.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: On his chest.
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: The influence when I saw that from Pop huh Wayne
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: and Wayne probably got that from pot Bro. That made
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: me want to be a rapper. And I was like,
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: I want to be a rapper because of the influence
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: that I see the rappers are having. Man, that's it, Bro,
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: so been in this game. Just dropped my eleventh album,
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: From the Hood to Harvard. From the Hood to Harvard, talk.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: To me about working with Jimmy Hinton. I'm gonna ask
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: you about that, Like, just walk walk me through that experience. Well,
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: I needed to graduate.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: I was a marketing major, so I had to have
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: an internship under my belt.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: And at the time I was like, dang, he was
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: managing the game.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: I feel like he had Rick Ross, he had a
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: Gucci man you know what I'm saying. He had a brandy,
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: he had a few different people, and I was like, dang,
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: this is crazy.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: It'd be amazing to work for him.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: I just called the number of his office and shout
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: out to my sister Lashina, you heard me.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: She was working the front desk at the time. She
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: answered the phone and she was like, Hey, how you doing.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: I was like, look, I'm a college student trying to
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: get an internship, and I sent my resume over they
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: hire me just like that. I didn't get paid. I
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: ain't get paid, but I was up here in New York.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: I was living in the Bronx that summer and intern
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: with him. I was on the Games Street Team. So
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: years later, the game was on my last album I
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: just dropped a few months ago. So to go from
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: interning and working on the Games Street Team to him
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: being a collaborator on my album, that's like a full
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: circle moment, bro. But it showed me that summer. It
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: showed me that I don't want to be in this
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: industry unless I could be an artist, because I I've
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: seen a lot of people who was pushing music that
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: after they finished promoting the music, they would look at
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: me and say, man, I don't even want my own
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: kids listening to that music.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: But this is just my job.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: I was like, ooh, I wouldn't want to have to
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: live my life like that. You got to push something
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: that you don't even really stand behind because it's your job.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: I was like, the only way I'd be in this
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: game is if I could be an artist, because I
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: could control my narrative.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: How many times you got called Poppy in the Bronx,
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: I know they confused you for space They.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: Did, yeah, and I was like, bro, I'm black, Bro,
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: I'm from New Orleans, Jeremy.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: As soon as I said you heard me, they was like.
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: Oh here and from here.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: When did you first realize you were using your gifts
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: for their intended purpose?
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: Well, the first time I did a show, it was
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: a it was a talent show at LSU and I
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: miss a Phoenix Shakur was at my school right Tupac's mind.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: And when I got off stage, I didn't win first place,
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: second place, or third place in that talent show, but
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: when I got off stage, she was like, young brother,
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: your passion on that microphone when I see you perform,
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: reminds me of my son, and when she told me that,
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: I was like, oh, I got something special, Like even
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: if people not recognizing it in the moment, I got
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: something special. Tupac Mama just told me this, you feel me.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: And at that point I was like, all, I know,
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: if I use this for the purpose it was designed for,
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: it could be life changing.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: I got letters in my pocket, bro, from students who
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: like when I visit these middle schools and these high schools,
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: they write me letters about like how much my music
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: has inspired them and they wanting to be like me.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: They writing raps and they're giving this to me when
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: I come to their school, Like I see this. You know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: I'm speaking at a school. By the time I get
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: off stage, the little girl and like drew a picture
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: of me. You know what I'm saying, Like this is powerful, yo,
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: Like this is organic stuff that I experienced on a
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: daily basis. So I'm like, who would I be to
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: have a water down message when I know that this
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: message could be life changing for people in a good
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: all bad way.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: And you're a professor, right, yeah, and talks university.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: And you teach students about the intersection of hip hop
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: and social change.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: Yes, sir, that yeah, So my course that I designed,
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: it's all about how hip hop has been used to
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: make social change in the past and how we can
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: use it to make social change moving forward, because unfortunately,
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: it's kind of veered in the direction of Yo, I'm
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: just trying to get the bag. I ain't even a rapper.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: I'm just a game spinner. I'm just a hustler. You know,
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: it's kind of veered in that direction. So people now
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: focused on making change via hip hop right, And I'm
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: just saying, yo, as a class, we're going to learn
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: how different artists have been able to use their platform
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: to really make real change. I was on tour with
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Macklemore when the thrift Shop song came out, doing a
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: nationwide tour with him.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: I saw the change.
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: That they were making, even in the LGBTQ community when
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: they had the same love song. I saw all of
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: the legislation that they were a part of, and how
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: they had people getting married at the shows and all this.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm seeing real social change be made via
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: hip hop.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: I done seen the impact that l fox ones then
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: had on the whole you know, a whole country make people.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: So we just study about that stuff.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: In my class, Bro, And I'm empowering my class to
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: want to make music but also consume music that's gonna
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: make change, because why are you consumer music that's glorified?
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: Like one assignment I had for my class was to
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: write Kodak Black a letter while he was in jail.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Just now.
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: Kodak just got out last week and me and Kodak
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: are cool. So we were dming yesterday and Kodak hit
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: me like, yo, I got all them letters from you
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: and your class. He was like, that stuff really inspired me.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: Thank you, bro, y'all snapped. I want to come and
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: visit your class.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Kodak is a perfect I'll go ask you to what
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: strategies do you use? So I want to get back
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: to Koda. But other than like writing letters to Kodak,
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: like what other things have you done?
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah? So my class is actually creating an album, you
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: know what I mean?
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: My class is creating an album because I want to
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: show them how hard it is to create hip hop
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: and actually make it make social change. Because nowadays, if
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: you want to have a message in your music, you
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: automatically the underdog. But I love that my students could
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: be like, wait, Professor d one is dropping music is
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: on the freaking breakfast club.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Like it's possible, you.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: Totally independent, one hundred percent independent. They see that as possible.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: But I want them to see the things that they
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: didn't see, which is me and you connecting ten years ago,
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: Me and you connected almost ten years ago, y'all seeing
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: me grinding. I'm making my class do this as they
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: create an album, because making the music is the easy part.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: But make the music connect with people, you know what
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: I mean. So I'm showing them with a little a
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: little tough love, you know that, Like, we're gonna learn
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: about artists who have done it successfully. We're gonna learn
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: about artists who are on the right path, but then
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: they let the bag get in their way and they
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: changed their message along the way, and then we're gonna
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: learn how to do it as an artist.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Can't you be multi faceted? Though?
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Can't you be Can't you glorify killing and want to
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: save the world? No?
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: No, But maybe can you be a social justice advocate
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: and just be a street rapper from Philly talking about
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: your experience?
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: You can definitely be.
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: And by the way, but I hope that you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: I hope that's not still out in the air that
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: d one has an issue with Meek may Or, Jim
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: Jones and Rick Ross.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I hope that's not.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Well, you were specifics. That was the other thing too.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: I think that if you weren't specific and you just
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: were talking about I think the message would have been
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: received a little bit better. Because when whenever you, you know,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: address somebody as an individual, they're going to take your personal.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: Gotcha, it just are And and that wasn't my intention
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: for anybody to take that personal because I literally, like,
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: I love other brothers in a real sencere way, bro
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: to say, just know, Oh, I'm just saying that, dad,
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: I know, in.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: A real way.
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: But when you use examples to make your point, if
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: somebody say, man, people in the NBA need to conduct
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: themselves better off the court, that's super vague. When you say, man,
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: John mort need to stop, you know, flashing guns in
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: his videos.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Oh that's a real example, all right. Cool?
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Have you spoke to those brothers after man?
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Me and Jim have text each other and it was
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: all love via text.
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: I hope to link up with Jim while I'm out
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: here in New York in person, like that'll be love.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: That's gonna be the next.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: That conversation happening on text. You hit hear me hit.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: You No a mutual contact. My brother Antonio and my
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: brother Shabbaz the o G. They they they linked us
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: via text, right, and then I sent them a video
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: one day.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: I woke up one day and I was like, man,
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: all of this middle man and stuff and group text.
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: I sent them a personal video speaking from the heart
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: for a minute. Jim, this d one brother da da da,
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: This was my heart, this was my intentions, this is
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: my background. Da da da put that out that to him.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: That brother hit me back in five minutes. I appreciate
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: you reaching out.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: This means a lot. I respect what you stand for.
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: You know, we should have a conversation, he said, because
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: I realized sometimes in life people are trying to get
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: to the same destination, but they just taking two different routes.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: I respect the heck out of that. So we haven't
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: met in person yet. We haven't verbally talked, but we
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: text with Meek and Ross. I haven't communicated with them directly.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: I know people who know all of them, you know,
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: so I would love for the link to be made
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: just so they know like, Bro, this ain't no. I
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: just want us to be the best version of ourselves, man,
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: because it confuses the kids if we are giving turkeys away,
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: giving toys away, giving shoes away, advocating for social justice reform.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: And glorifying the opposite type of message in our music.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: And that's all I'm saying.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: You know, is it ever appropriate to use unconventional means
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: to achieve righteous righteous sense?
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: It depends on what those unconventional means are. Bro, that's it.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: Like I wouldn't get up here right now and disrespect
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: any of y'all.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Physically or verbally to say, hey, the goal was to
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: go viral.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: The niggas will a lot of to go virus.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: N Like, I don't think that that's That's just not
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: how I'm cut. I'm not that thirsty for validation or
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: for fame. Like I actually been famous for a long time,
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean, I haven't. I haven't taught
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: since I was Fredo's teacher, you know what I'm saying.
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: That's like over a decade ago, brother, Like, Like, I'm good.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: I'm in a great space mentally, physically, financially, all that stuff.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: So for me, it's like the slow grind to continue.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: Rising might not come along with the antics, but it
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: comes along with integrity. It's making God proud, it's making
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: my grandparents, my parents proud, and it's giving people a blueprint.
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: You know that that viral stuff. Man, you'll be here
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: today and gone tomorrow.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Can you talk about being in this world but not
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: of this world? I know on the song line drawn
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: on the entry.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: You say that, Yeah, so lines drawn is me saying, like, yo,
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: this whole industry has become content with the state of
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: luke warming this bro like we cool with a this song,
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: we popping my lists, we popping pills, we selling dope,
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: this song, we're doing something positive and we're cool with
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: consuming it all. That's why other communities don't take us serious.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: You can't play with gay people like that. You can't
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: play with jewels like that because they don't play with
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: themselves like that. But when they see us disrespecting ourselves,
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: they're like, man, the black people, they're not tripping man
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: like it is what it is. They glorify killing themselves.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: Who cares if we disrespect them?
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: You know? With that being said, does everybody in here
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: believe in God?
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: Of course percent If we all can say that, then
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: that should make it way easier to understand my why
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: why I do what I do. It's because I don't
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: I don't serve my fans. I don't serve the industry,
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: I don't serve Instagram. I serve God. And I'm simply
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: using my music as a vehicle to reach people.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: But I'm not serving the people.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: So if we all look at what our slingshot is
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: and what our gifts are and say, how can I
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: use this gift to be of service to God, automatically
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: it'll be like, Oh, there's no way that I can
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: justify glorifying killing and glorifying just a bunch of negativity
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: to say that, Well, I'm trying to make money, so
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: that's going to justify it at the end of the day.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: There's no way. So I say it.
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: I'm drawing lines and I'm saying what side of the
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: line are you on? Do you want to represent righteousness
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: or you want to represent evil? And drawing that line
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: in the sand.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: That's made a.
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: Lot of people on hip hop uncomfortable because now it's like, oh,
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: I got to pick a side. I was comfortable in
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: the middle. I ain't want to have to pick a side.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: We was all comfortable in the middle. Actually, man, I'm
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: just drawing a line, that's all. And that's why I
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: put that song out. That's the first song on my album,
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: and that song shaking things up?
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: You heard me?
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: How often do you get a student that still just
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: goes against the ground, you know what I mean? Like,
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: you know, because everybody's not gonna go yeah, everybody's not
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: gonna do the same thing, you know. I know you
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: help a lot of students. I can definitely tell that
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: you help a lot of a lot of kids, But like,
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: how many how often do you get the ones that's
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: like nah?
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Every day? I got students in the graveyard right now.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Want to listen. They're resting in peace, like literally literally, Man,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: that stuff tough.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: One of my students, g Money. He was a popular
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: rapper and band ruge. You know, he got murdered a
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: few years ago. That was Fredo Band's rapping partner. It
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: was in the group together. Man, he got murdered. Man,
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: I was talking to him two days before he got murdered.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: He was involved in.
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: Some beef down there in Louisiana and I wanted him
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: to come with me to a show. I had in
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: Memphis at the time, but he adn't asked his phone
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: when I hit him up, and I didn't want to
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: seem like I was bothering him, right, but I was like, man,
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: get out the city. Man, come with me for the weekend.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: Let me just pour into you, bro. And he ain't
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: come with me to that show. He got murdered before
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: I could make it back home. I mean, but I
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: knew that. It's like you involved in this beef, but
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: it's because you're getting caught up in wanting to play
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: this role of who G Money is instead of the
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: young brother that I know Garret Burton is, you know.
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: And I just seen hip hop make people do that. Man,
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: Like I got adrenaline running through me right now. Man,
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: I'm on the breakfast club. It's gonna make people like
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: want to amplify something inside of them. Thankfully though, because
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: I know I'm serving God. I'm like, amplify the righteousness
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: in U. D like, don't amplify because I got darkness
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: in me too. I got wretchedness, I got craziness. I
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: got evil in me as well.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: We all do.
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: But I don't want to amplify that part. I try
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: to suppress that part as much as possible. But man,
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: I see people make the wrong decisions every day, and
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: I just try to I try to still be here
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: for we gotta still have grace with people.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: You feel me, And.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: What could you tell?
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: Like my black son, he's eleven years old, right, And
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: what I noticed about him is, you know, he lives
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: between me, my mother, and his father. So that's three
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: different households, you know, because what I doing, what his
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: dad does.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm always on the road.
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: I live in New Jersey now he's between here and
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: Baltimore and then his dad. Total different household. He has
• 36:07
  Speaker 8: siblings there. I don't have other children yet. I'm pregnant
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: right now. But it's a different it's different household, so
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: it's different things that I don't allow him to do
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: that his dad may allow him to do that my
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: mom don't. So he's he's listening in the gospel when
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: he was herd but down when he that's not what
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: he wanted to listen to.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: He's listening to NB a young.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Boy in school and stuff like that.
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: And I notice a mood change, you know, not to
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: you know, shut on and be a young boy or
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: anything like that, because he has things that he's going
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: through as well, and he makes that very known. But
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: my son's mood will change, He'll he'll get like down
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: a little bit, you know what I'm saying. But he
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: loves to listen to him right now, I listen to
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: all types of things.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: I don't have him listen to.
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: My son know Marvin Gay songs, he knows Anita Baker
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: like he knows so many different because it's different.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I listen to rap.
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: I listen from everything to rap, rhythm and blues rock.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: All of that.
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: But I notice how it's a change.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: It's a mood, and influence from music is very impactful
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: because my son just goes into a different mood when
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: he listens to like Juice World an NBA young Boy,
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: and I'm.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Like, why are you listening to that?
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: You're like, I like it.
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: I'm like, can you understand what they're saying?
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: No, not like that, not like that.
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: But he understands some of that stuff and he puts
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: them in a different mood.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: You get it literally changes your mood.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: It's life and death in the power of the tongue.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: That's Proverbs eighteen and twenty one. It don't say, life
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: and death in the power of the beat.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: You heard me.
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: The beat could change your mood or your frequency, but
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: life and death is in the power of those lyrics.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: So that's why it's like, we all say we believe
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: in God, so we can't ignore that scripture that's real.
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: So that's why I'm like, bro, I don't even want
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: to play about something that could have life and death implications.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: You feel me, and that's just real, yo.
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: So now it's like, instead of just being the person
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: that's anti it is anti dead, I gotta be just
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: as dope, but in a different lane. So that's why
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: I gotta beat it to counter act the murder music
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: with stuff like I don't care if you know me,
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: you're about to respect high step.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Why would you think I'd.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Ever fear you.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: I don't even fear death. A scare of boy. Need
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: a gun like bad breath? Need a gun? Yeah, your
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: teeth clean, But I know the power of the tongue.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I'm a man of God.
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: I ain't superstitious from New Orleans, where Birdman quotes get
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: treated like Bible scriptures. But me, I ain't the type
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: to brag about without in bolt. I make silent moves,
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: but I get loud results. If d one talk about
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: his pain, you gonna really relate. Do you want to
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: talk about his paper?
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: You gonna know that his street.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: Do you want rap on top of your beat? You
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: gonna know that he ate d You wanta rap on
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: top of your beat? You gonna know that he ate you?
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: Bragging about with you then been through Potner. We survivors too,
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: and you calling boys your brothers. But which one's gonna
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: rhyme for you? Ain't no g cod, no more boi.
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: The streets then lie to you. That's why I be
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: in my bag, but I be in my bible tool.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: They don't like me, but they know they can't deny me. Man,
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: I'm a real gangster, and they no right where to
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: find me. G A n g st A. Do not
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: try me growing their nurturing. If serving the almighty, keep
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: up a lot of people feel how I be feeling,
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: but don't speak up. I'd be out at Harvard in
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: my office with my feet up.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: God, why are.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: You so good to me?
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: I need answers. Slaves built this school. Now I own
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: real estate on campus.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: That's how I gotta come bro Charlamagne, I dare you
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: say that, ain't it?
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: Bro?
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: I da say, you don't have to say nothing.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: But of course that was dope. What would you do on?
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: How much?
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I own it.
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: So it's this huge, huge, multi purpose facility that's being built.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: It's going to be office buildings, is going to be
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: mixed income housing, and it's going to be a student
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: academic center that's being built.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: We just broke ground on it. What that was December first?
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: So I'm part of a team and take a team
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: to make something big like that happened, brother, And thankfully
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: I was connected to brilliant black minds that were like, yo, man,
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: we got the opportunity to own real estate on Harvard's
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: campus when our ancestors built this school. Man, we got
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: to do that. And I was like, bet, that's what
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: I'm using my money on. I don't need the newest car.
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: I drive behind the cord proudly. I don't need a
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: boo gouty it.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: I can have that.
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: I can have a lambo at this point, I don't
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: need none of that. Man, give me that real estate
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: on Harvard's campus.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: You know? I got a couple more questions with d
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: one because you've you've been propositioned to compromise yourself at
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: different points in this industry.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Right, I know what you're talking about.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I don't want if you're not going to say, I'm not.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Going that's it?
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah say it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: Since I mean, is it true that you are pressure
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: to participate in homosexual acts for a major?
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Is it true that you were pressure to participate in
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: homosexual acts for you?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Get that?
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I didn't see that on this It's true.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: No, it's very true. I don't know how you heard that.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Maybe you heard another interview or something. It's very true.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Brother.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: That's when I was. That's when I was a local
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: rapper trying to get on. And when people see that,
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: you are vulnerable because they know they got the leverage.
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: There's certain people in this industry who will be like, oh,
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: I think he'll be willing to do something strange for
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: a piece of change, you know what I mean? And
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: I had somebody was trying to get somebody to manage
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: me at the time, and the person I was trying
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: to get to manage me, I drove out of time.
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: I went to a video shoot that they were part of,
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: and during the video shoot, we were gonna have a
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: meeting and talk about that. And yeah, that person kind
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: of you know, implied to me like yo, like I'll
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: manage you. You justally gotta do something for me.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you see them managing artists now you like man.
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: That So actually that person is christ Yeah, bro, No,
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: that's a real thing.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: This ain't. No, I'm surprised y'all don't know more stories
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: like that. I do know a lot of about it. Yeah,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: but it's so it's a real thing that I know.
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: And unfortunately people so that person they're not like some
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: big model nowadays, whatever trajectory they were on.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Like they fell off.
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: I say that, but I want people to know that
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: story because I could have said yes, and I could
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: have I could have had something. To this day, that's
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: a huge skeleton in my closet that I'm like, damn bro,
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: like I'm traumatized behind that. And I had to do
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: that to get on. All I had to do to.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Get on was be real, be righteous, and be relevant,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: keep God first.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Man. And I ask one lest thing about in posita syndrome.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: You got a record in positive syndrome, and you're clearly
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: at a place of worthy right now. So when did
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: you get to that place of worthy and was able
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: to say, you know what, I know who I am.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: Any time I'm entering a space where I feel like
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: I'm being tolerated and not celebrated, shout out to you
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: for that.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: I got that from you.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: I still feel a sense of impostera syndrome in the
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: music industry. For the most part. I feel like they
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: tolerate me, but they don't celebrate me.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: My fans, man, my fans want me to win so bad.
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: That's why my fans like, we'll name our own price,
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: d we'll.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Pay for your album.
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: We'll go stream it too, but we'll pay up to
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: a thousand dollars for your album. I got fans that
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: love me, but the industry, bro, I still feel like
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: they're like, dang d got so many followers, he making
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: so much noise, Gotta let him on there, so we
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: gotta open this door for him. But they just tolerate me,
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: they don't necessarily celebrate me. So I still feel impasta
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: syndrome a lot of times when I'm in industry spaces,
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: because you can kind of tell when people are like
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: you too big and too powerful at this point to
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: not have you here, but we ain't necessarily like championing you.
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: Like you can see the industry pushing some people to
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: the forefront, you know what I'm saying. So it keeps
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: me humble, It keeps me with a chip on my shoulder.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: It keeps me feeling like I'm that underdog from New Orleans.
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: I'm David with mogul lives to have to fight.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: You think it's more like Sharif in minutes though, It's like,
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: oh here come d One again. He about to preest
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: us and tell us put the weed down and put
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: the liquid down.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: Man. That's I don't, bro, cause I never get that
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: from people. They're like, man, you come across preachy or
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: anything like that.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: I'm passionate.
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: But that's why I'm able to be on the phone
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: with a Boosie, on the phone with a Kodak black,
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean, kicking it with man in
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: fresh juvenile like all these like, Man, I'm just a
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: regular dude, bro, I'm really just a regular dude who
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: is simply not a slave to money. And I know
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: who I serve, who is who we say we all serve,
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: which is God.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: So because of.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: That, cool man, I can't be content with things that's
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: not glorifying God. That's happening all my watching in my
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: space while I'm in this industry. Man, I got a bro,
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: I'm on a breakfast club right now. Man, i gotta
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: say some stuff that's gonna impact people even after we
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: long gone and we're not on this earth no more.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: I understand it because the negative is definitely amplified. So
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: when people say things like, man, how come do you
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: want just don't reach out to some of these people personally,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, you gotta say what you're saying about the positive,
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: and you gotta amplify that too, right Like that gotta
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: be saying publicly.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: If the negative is public thank you, bro, thank you listen, man.
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: Public actions deserve public responses. We have an industry that
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: is putting this music out publicly every day. If I
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: go on every playlist in the world right now, it's
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: being curated with murder music, with music that's disrespecting our women,
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: that's glorifying drug Dealing with that being said, man, it's
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: got to be addressed publicly.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: It can't like, why are you gonna hit all.
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: These individual artists up behind the scenes And I'm not
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: interested in let me go at the industry. Who is
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: the industry. I don't know who the industry is. Y'all
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: had Leo Cohen on here talking about A them people
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: got to a I got miles to feed too. You
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Man, listen, America doesn't want to
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: heal your trauma. America wants to monetize your trauma. This
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: industry don't want to heal your trauma. They want to
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: monetize your trauma. So I'm like, let me empower the
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: artists and the fans to simply be smarter and say,
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: let's continue to make hip hop. Let's continue to listen
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: to hip hop, but let's make a healthier version of it.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: That's gonna be better.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: For all of us. You know what I'm saying. Just
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: about the platinum players you get out of the platinum plans, oh.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Man, before you before you go into that, you know,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you mentioned the game?
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Yes, Now, how do you decide who you're working with?
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Because the game has been a rapper who's been one
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: of those rappers. He's been on both sides, right heat
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: positive songs.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: He uplist, but he's been a shooter too.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So how do you decide who d One is
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: working with because somebody might say that you work with
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: the game in the game, he's on that line, he ain't.
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: So the game is a center, right, d One is
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: a center too. There's nobody on the face of this
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: earth that I won't sit down with that I won't
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: work with. Hearing me the book that I add here
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: to the Bible in Mark chapter two, verse seventeen, I
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: believe it says healthy people don't need a doctor, sick
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: people do. With that being said, what would I look
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: like to say, Oh, man, I can't associate with the Game,
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: or I can't associate with Kevin Gates?
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: These are all this I what you mean? They people
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: just like me.
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: That's why I've collaborated with them, and I collaborate with
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: anybody on the face of this earth. Man, Like, we're
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: not supposed to sit here and point a finger and
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: judge people. Man, we got stuff. Me and the Game
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: both lost loved ones to gun violence. That's what the
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: song is about. Me and Kevin Gates. We both come
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: up in Southern Louisiana.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: The song is about what we done seen behind people
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: chasing money.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: When we got music together, you know, what I'm saying.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: Like this is I got a song coming out with
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: Project Pat in two weeks. I got a song coming
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: out with Raheem DeVaughn in a week like bro like
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: I'm out here. I collaborated with Loope Fiasco, Big crit
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: you know, all kinds of people, bro, Like, that's what
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: I want to do because I love making people say
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: he belong in this box, and I love breaking that
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: box and making a hit and people be like, wait,
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: what that wasn't supposed to work. I was with Killer
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: Mike two weeks before the Grammy Awards in Atlanta. That's
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: my big brother. I went on my first tour with
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: Killer Mike. Man, it was so powerful to see that
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: brother win three Grammy Awards. Bro, and let me know
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: that a shift is happening right now. This is the time,
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: right now for all the boxes to be broken. Oh
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: you're too old, Nope, Killer Mike just won a Grammy Award.
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: Oh you got a message in your music? People don't
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: want hear that. Nope, Killer Mike just won three Grammy Awards.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: We got it. So with that being said, it's time
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: for us to all come together. Man.
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: Can't nobody say why would you work with this artist
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: or this artist. Me and fredill Bang got a song
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: about the drop.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: What would I look like to not work with my
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: student just because it's like, oh, man, will you be
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: rapping about some different stuff than me? Bro?
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: So I can't do that now.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Because people will say, you know, you pointing a finger
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: at Let's say a artists like Jim Jones.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Would you do a record with Jim?
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: I already got a record for Jim if he would
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: be down the hip on it. Man, I got a
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: ton of songs that I'm like, Jim, I think this
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: will be fire for us. But if not, because people
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: love to call you a cloud chaser, right, you're.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Bringing him in your worldly.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Oh I'm always bringing people into my world if I
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: do a song.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like, you gotta respect
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: my platform. I don't curse in my music. You know
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Hey, if you could respect that, the
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: game hit me and said, guess what, Libro, this the
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: first song of my whole career. I'm not gonna curse on,
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: but I'm gonna do that for you. That's a testimony, Bro,
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: That's powerful. You feel me so of course I'll.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Do a song with Jim Jones, with Meek Mill, with
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Rick Ross. But if it don't come to that, it's
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: okay because it's not about that. Brother.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: I'm good already, Like generational wealth has been built already,
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: The im pagg is being made.
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: The calendar is full with speaking engagements and booking and
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: touring and all that.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: So the platinum pledge I in the.
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: Music industry, the highest standard of success is gone platinum, right,
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: So I turn a platinum into an acronym. It stands
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: for people leading a transform involving newly unified mindsets. That's
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: what platinum stands for. The platinum pledge simply says that
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: we are taking a vow that we will not create,
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: support or promote music. There's glorifying murder, glorifying drug dealing,
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: glorifying the disrespect of our women, and glorifying sexual irresponsibility.
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: That's the platinum pledge. And I'm unifying people to say, yo,
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: there's actually more of us who agree with this than
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: don't agree with this. But the industry will make you
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: feel like, man, I'm the only one who I'm lame.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: If I don't want to hear murder music. You know
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So the Platinum Pledge, Brother.
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: Thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people have
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: signed it already.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Bro. Now I'm on the breakfast club talking about it.
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: People could go to my website D one music dot
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: comde the number one music dot com, and go sign
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: the Platinum Pledge. And I'm unifying all these thousands of
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: people together to say, now here is how we create
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: a healthier hip.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Hop space for all of us. That's what the Platinum
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Pledge is. Bro. I would love for y'all to sign
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: the year real man. That's bro. That is life changing. Bro.
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: That is life changing when we see this ain't about
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: canceling nobody. This ain't about we don't love this person.
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: We want everybody to be a part of.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: This shift, but we want to make it together. Man.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: That's huge, bro. So that's what the Platinum Pledge is.
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: And I've been doing these meetings going from city to
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: city called Rappers Only in New Orleans, I kicked it
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: off in my hometown. We had one hundred rappers in
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: the same room. Gangster rappers, Christian rappers, backpack rappers, females
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: all kinds of stuff, right, and we in that rappers
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: only and were talking about what's the mental side of
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: what goes into why we make the music we make monetarily, like,
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: how important is it to make money off of the
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: music we make?
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: What's the message we want to put out there?
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: It's basically therapy for artists and me doing this and
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: doing these rappers only meetings from City of the City.
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: This stuff is making artists feel like dagn bro, Like,
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: finally I could express some stuff that I couldn't express
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: to my fan base or I couldn't express like to
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: other people that don't just get me. Man, I'm trying
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: to unify us so we could be better, bro, and
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: not trying. We're doing it at this point.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: You heard me, give me your Twitters and Instagrams and
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. Do you want?
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: All my social media is d one music, d Ee
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: the number one music you heard me. All my social
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: media and on streaming platforms is just d one d
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: Ee Dash the number one. I got eleven albums out
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: and counting, y'all go check it out newest album from.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: The Hood to Harvard please and look. I want to
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: bless y'all with these patches limited edition patches.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, be real, be righteous, be relevant.
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: That's my collaboration I just did with Levi's Envy. I
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: got you, brother, Remy, Yeah, man, So that's my model.
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: When I say three year is up, that's what it means. Brother,
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: be real, be righteous, be relevant, and hip hop. I
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: know we could do all them things and we're gonna
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: win together.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Thank y'all.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to see y'all next time, bro, because
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: we gotta keep this journey. Gun.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: You heard me, lewis right, d one.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club.