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"We don't talk about rent & Pool comedy is no laughing matter" · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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This is a Bramble Jam podcast. This week on your Gabble Gabble. If
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your tenant is using COVID as an excuse not to pay rent, should we
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talk about that hot bench does? And if you throw a comedy show by
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a pool and your guitar goes missing, is it a laughing matter? Judge
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Ross tells us free people cases, Thank Justice. This is your gavel Gabble
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in the stands in the air. Huh huh coffing real good. Drive the
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car, yr Gavilvo. Drive the car like you know we should. Ten
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and two. Hello, everybody, Welcome to Yo Gavel Gabble, a Bramble
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Jam plus Exclusive Jim Plus Original. We are talking about those courtroom shows that
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you know and love. I have a Judge Ross, when I got a
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COVID down or hot bench hot bit, three judges for the price of one,
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Patricia Michael, does it add anything? Here's what I here, Here's
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these That would be my question if someone came to pitch me that show,
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I would say why I love it? When they dissent in the in the
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uh deliberation, not in the dungeon he sent in the dungeon. I did
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see them go ahead. Three people died. I was so glad to get
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out of their alive never again dissent in the dungeon. They go back and
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they deliberate, and when they argue amongst themselves because they all have like actual
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law degrees, that is fun when they all are in agreement, and it's
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just they're taking turns just basically interrogating the people. And two of them are
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hard New Yorkers. It just it gets a little repetitive after a while.
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Yeah, yeah, so's it could go either way for me. The well,
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do we want to start high or start low? Let's start low and
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then it'll be all right. I like that a lot. I like that
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a rot a covid uh con artists, you say, yeah, yeah,
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that was the title of the episode. Let me introduce you to I don't
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know their first names, mister Mayan Dea and miss Yan. They are married
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and they sublease their uh these properties that they have through an app. I
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don't remember the name of the app. It's not like Airbnb or something.
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It's a rental. They rent their apartments, They sub leets their houses,
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houses and condos. They have several properties and they rent them through an app.
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They rented to mister Montoya in twenty nineteen. August of twenty nineteen.
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There is no formal document, least there is an app agreement. So this
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is this is a long term. This isn't like Airbnb where it's short that's
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right. No, No, it's a rental. It's a house, so
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like a zillo or something like. So. Uh, he starts renting with
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his girlfriend Brandy in August of twenty nineteen. How's Brandy. She's you know,
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not around anymore. Unfortunately for Montoya. You feel like he's taking it
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on the chin a lot. But we'll see, Uh, like she's dead.
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She's not dead. She just left him. They paid through December twenty
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nineteen. Uh, but then he basically said he couldn't afford the rent anymore
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and heading into twenty twenty, heading into twenty twenty, where everything went,
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you know, went to crap, right, And so he couldn't afford the
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rent, and they said, hey, look I got nowhere. He said,
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I got nowhere else to go. I can't afford the rent, but
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I'm gonna get back on my feet. My girlfriend just left me. I
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do have a job. And they basically said okay, And so they let
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him rent a different place from them, and this happened before everything's shut down,
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that's right. So he gets a new place in January. Okay,
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the girl nice of the girlfriend, You're very nice of them. The girlfriend
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has not left yet. I was wrong about that. Brandy moves out in
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March. Okay. So Montoya will tell you that this agreement was between his
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girl friend, Brandy in them, not him. And when she moved out
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in March, he was never paying the rent. He was paying her and
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she was paying the rent. And when she moved out in March and COVID
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hit, it all went downhill. So what does that mean? So was
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he splitting it with her? Yes, so he was giving her, you
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know, half correct. We get back over to Mayandaia and jan and they
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say Mayandia does most of the talking. Miss Yan talks a little bit,
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but it's mostly Mayandia. He says, that's not accurate. They both signed
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the agreement on the app both of them did, and they didn't pay any
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money in January and March. They were back due on August to December.
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So in August he was paying, they were paying full, but towards the
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end of the year they stopped being able to pay the full amount, They
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were paying partial amounts. What happened, I don't know the answer to that
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question yet, but there's something that will happen in the future. But what
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happened in nineteen, they we stopped paying it regularly toward the end of twenty
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nineteen, and so they owed back money from twenty nineteen, even with an
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app agreement. Again, that's a that is a contract. So do we
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have like the logistics of what they signed when they agreed. We don't have
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the logistics because it is a month to month situation. It's got a full
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board month. Okay, So he said they the twenty one hundred dollars that
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they had paid in January February March, which didn't even cover one month's rent.
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The rent was supposed to be twenty one hundred bucks a month. That
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was back pay for money that they had owed in twenty nineteen. So that
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caught him. On the other hand, that's right, that caught him up
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to date. But they had paid no rent January February March, which is
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over five thousand dollars in rent, had not paid a dome of that money.
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Now, when Brandy moved out, and they heard about his situation.
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They dropped his rent for him. They said it it's supposed to be over
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two thousand dollars a month. We're dropping it to fifteen hundred dollars a month
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for you because Brandy moved out and you're in a tough spot. He said,
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thank you very much. Now in March the world shuts down. Let's
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find that Brandy left because it was month to month. That's right, so
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it' silic. She like, correct, Yeah, So here's the deal.
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Hasn't paid He says he's paid rent January through March. They say he hasn't.
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He's paid back rent for twenty nineteen. There is a contention there,
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although the paperwork would suggest he paid it in two thousand and nine for they
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that he owed money in twenty nineteen, and their papers are orderly. I
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promise you that I can ali you. So in March the whole world shuts
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down. Yes, and in that neighborhood there is a moratorium on rent.
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No one is required to pay rent, not required to pay it. You
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didn't you know? They haven't figured it out yet. Still, they haven't
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figured out how people are getting their money for rent. Tricky, So they
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say, okay, March hits, did you pay him any rent? And
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he said, I did. I lost my but whenever I got some money,
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I would pay him one hundred dollars here, one hundred dollars there.
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What I could. I couldn't afford where I was living, and I told
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them that, but they kept telling me I could afford it, and I
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kept telling him I couldn't. Does that mean when I finally moved out in
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September twin's We'll get to that in a second. So Judge Tanya, who's
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doing the interrogation, says, hey, the state says, you got to
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give the renters a break. Here were you making him pay you money?
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We understand he owes you January to March. Were you making him pay you
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rent? And Leonard is the guy's first name, Mandaea, that guy Lyonyard
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says, here's the deal, and they said, we have a text message
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that you sent saying don't worry about the rent right now. And sure enough
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there's a text message and it says don't worry about the rent right now.
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Things are crazy. There are a lot of benefits you can apply for.
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Apply for these things and that will help you get money. And then we'll
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worry about COVID rent later. It doesn't say anything about the January March,
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right, it says moving forward now January to March is very is tricky.
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It's tricky because it's over five thousand dollars and it doesn't apply. Get it
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doesn't apply to the COVID situation. Correct, Yes, So he did not
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apply for any benefits. And finally Leonard's wife applies for him for the EDD
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benefits, employee benefits, unemployment benefits applies. Because he wasn't tech savvy,
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he didn't know how to operate. He's a little bit older, didn't know
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how to operate it. They did it for him. They successfully applied,
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and on August fifth, he received his unemployment card and received back pay from
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March all the way through August eleven thousand dollars in unemployment and then began to
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receive weekly unemployment checks beginning in August. Okay, so they say, hey,
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this sounds really nice. Mister Montoya, like, wasn't that nice of
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him? And he said it was nice of him, but I think they
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did it to take advantage of me. And Tanya goes, you mean to
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tell me they got you eleven thousand dollars to take advantage of you, and
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he says, well, when he was helping me, he was there for
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me. But when they weren't, they weren't, that's all he says.
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So at this point, Leonard says, we got him eleven thousand dollars plus
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weekly benefits. As soon as he gets that, I text him and call
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him to say, hey, is there any amount of this that you can
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pay for the rent? And he doesn't answer my calls. He's ghosted me
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completely. I tried texting, I tried calling, and finally he had to
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file some paperwork, a tro form or something like a tenant's not answering or
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doing what he's supposed to do. So he shows up at the door and
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informs me no longer has a parking spot out front and he needs you know,
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I don't. He didn't say he needs to move out because it's COVID,
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but you don't have a parking spot out front. You got these all
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this back pay for January through March. We know you have money, you're
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not paying us the money. At that point, we have a threat.
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Mister Montoya says, you tow my car and see what happened, and mister
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Montoya says, I felt threatened. I felt it was a terrorist threat.
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Terrorist threat for you to tell me I don't have a parking spit anymore.
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That defendant, what's his what's what's his nationality? Uh? He and his
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wife are both definitely people of color. Miss Yan is Asian, he is
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I don't know, but it is definitely in the ballpark for him to be
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Middle Eastern. And Montoya it looks like he is Latin American of some descent.
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So it's so, who's that way? Who's Montoya said it was a
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terrorist threat, right, And Tanya immediately says, telling someone that's your tenant,
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you don't have a parking spot is not a terrorist threat. Then there's
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a video. They have a video of them outside talking about it, and
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basically, mister h the filming, Uh no, no, it's a not
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Tanya. The complex that they're in has a video, a security system video.
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So uh Basically, Leonard is like, I'm tired of this, Like
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I just need you to pay some money. Why can't you pay their print?
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We got eleven thousand plus you're getting the benefits every week, and he
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says, I had other things to pay, and he says, so what
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you're telling me is the other things you had to pay are more important than
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the rent. And basically Montoya says, yes, on the security system,
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yes, this is good, good stuff. Yes, it's good stuff.
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So then Leonard says, look, he received eleven thousand dollars. We felt
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like it's time, it's time for him to start paying. But he also
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could We knew he was receiving unemployment every week. So then Patricia gets in
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and says, how much unemployment were you receiving? He says one hundred and
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sixty seven dollars a week. Child support takes forty two dollars a week.
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From that, he says, so you're receiving like six hundred bucks a month,
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and Montoya goes, I don't really get into the math. She goes,
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you get in the math. It's your money. Well, you mean
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you'll get into the math, like you need to get in the math,
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like what's going on there? And he goes, yeah, I guess it
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was something like six hundred whatever she said. And you gave him them no
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money? He goes, that's not true. I gave them to two thousand
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and once one thousand another time, and They said, did he give you
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any money? They said, yes, he gave us thirty six hundred dollars
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is what he did give us when during the time from some time between March
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and August, between August and September. August and September, that's right,
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Yeah, he thirty had some money six hundred dollars, okay, and uh,
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But he said, I had all these other expenses. I spent four
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thousand dollars on my kids. They're twins, they're seventeen years old. I
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was behind. I needed to get them things that was very important to me.
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My aunt passed away. I helped with a burial. And I'm only
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getting six hundred dollars a month. At this point, Leonard says, that's
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a lie, your honor, and and and and do that's a lie that
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he's getting six hundred dollars, only getting six hundred dollars a month. He
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goes, no, I'm getting one hundred sixty seven dollars a week. I
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give forty two. And Leonard says, he's not telling you that he's also
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getting the six hundred dollars a week unemployment benefits signed by the government in the
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Cares Act, which you should remember I remember, and he was in fact
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getting six hundred dollars a week on top of his one sixty seven. Wow,
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so he's making after child support seven and change a week. He's making
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three grand a month was what he's making. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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yeah. So they say it was this true, mister Monteli. He goes
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yeah, but they shut that down. They said, yeah, when they
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shut it down in like the fall and gave you three hundred instead of six
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hundred, we're talking about August and August, you're still getting an extra six
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hundred week. Yes, I am getting six hundred a week. So at
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this point they say, so where do you get this number five thousand?
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And they say, well, the money he owed us, we believe like
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money he owed us currently is twelve thousand, six hundred dollars. He gave
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us three thirty six hundred. That's nine thousand left the max we can sue
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at hot benches five thousand. So we're asking for five thousand. So then
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they say, can you campaus your head because the twelve thousand that's more than
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Because I was under the impression it was we were doing January to March,
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that's right. So they have included some time in COVID. They have included
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the money he owed that was under the impression it was five thousand January.
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They've included the lesser amount through May, June, July, August, and
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September. May, June, July, August and September five, and then
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they basically included like seventy five hundred from there, so because it was fifteen
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hundred dollars a month. So the breakdown is fifty one hundred for the January
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to March, and then another seven eight thousand or whatever for the for the
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time afterwards. And basically they want the money and they say, hey,
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we can't. They're like, you understand that. We cannot tell you if
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giving money to his kids is more or less important than paying the rent,
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we can't do that, Like this is not the time or place to do
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that. That's not our job to do it. And they're like yeah,
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they're like, also, you understand he didn't have to pay rent after March.
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So then they go to deliberate and that's that's where we are. What
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to me, it sounds like, so he has given them thirty six January
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to March is fifty one? Is that crack? Fifty one? Hundred.
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They don't ever split it up. They just say he owes over five thousand
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dollars from January to March twelve six was the total he paid thirty six hundred
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down to nine thousand. I would say he owes the rest fourteen hundred,
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fourteen hundred, fifteen hundred, whatever it would be to get to January to
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March. Can enforce make him pay for March onward. So they Tanya says,
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I'm really uncomfortable with this. They all agree we can't determine what's most
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important. However, they're basically the paperwork that was turned in. They believe
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the court believes he still owes a full five thousand dollars from January to March,
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and that even though he paid some money along the way, the money
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he owes from January through March is over five thousand dollars, and so they're
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going to award them the full amount on that money, which is five thousand
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dollars. That is what they determine. It's a weird one. I don't
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know how they get there. I don't either, but we don't. We
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never get the excit, I mean unless the you know what, did they
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confirm that August to December was settled or did the thirty six hundred go towards
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that they determined that the twenty nineteen was paid in full. They did determine
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that. So the only thing I can figure is is that from January to
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March the rent on that place was way higher. Like it was like the
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thirty six hundred still left them with over five thousand do in from January to
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March. That's the only thing I can figure. But it was a mess,
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and there was a lot there. And at the point, didn't you
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say that it was supposed to be two thousand dollars they dropped it to fifteen
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hundred dollars. There was a yes there, So, but that's not the
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first house. The twenty nineteen house was more. I don't know how I'm
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talking about the second place. I thought you said the second place was supposed
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to be two thousand. When she dropped out, they moved. They moved
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to fifteen hundred, which wasn't until COVID, which wasn't until COVID. That's
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right, But they weren't paying. They weren't paying, so yeah, it
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could be six thousands, yes, could be, it could be sick still
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at that point, it's still less than three, Like it's still five.
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Gives them the full five? Okay, whatever, you we really dug deep.
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It is really you know that the whole COVID apartment thing, it's super
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tricky for for everybody because there are people that legitimately cannot pay rent. There's
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other people that can't and won't, and then landlords, some who are good
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people who want to do the right thing, are stuck in really difficulty.
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Said the original house that they were in, that he got rid of that
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that he left because it was too expensive. They had to get rid of
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that property. They had to sell the property because they couldn't. I can
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see that rent is Uh that's still happening, is the rent? I think
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there's still a rent moratorym in some places. Yeah, I don't know how
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they're going it in South Carolina, I don't know. I think it did.
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I'm not sure. Yeah, who's you want to go over to Judge
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Raw I would love to go to Judge A. Cross. I want to
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introduce you to Todd Carter. Todd Carter is suing a J Mercer for two
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thousand dollars, which is the amount of a stolen guitar. Fair enough,
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So Dylan, sorry, his name is Dylan. I don't know why I
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wrote Todd, Tod, Todd and Dylan. I mean, you know,
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oh, I know what happened. I was watching on YouTube the very first
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part. It doesn't say his name. I didn't get Dylan the name Dylan
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until later. It was just mister Carter. And so I wrote Todd as
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a fill, as a filler, yeah, just so I was your reference.
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I was gonna go with Todd the whole time. I don't understand why
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you would write a filler. You just write Carter. You need a first
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name to move on? Is that what you need? I could have gone
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with Carter, So Todd Dylan Carter basically was approached by his friend okay,
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who's also his roommate, who's also as lord. So this person's say that
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this person's name is Kelly. Don't know if it's a guy or girl whatever,
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she's not she or she or he's not. Kelly's not here. But
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Kelly owns the house and is you know, subleasing it to to to Todd
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Dylan. Okay, done and done. So Kelly tells Dylan, Hey,
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I have a buddy who throughout this idea of having a comedy show in the
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backyard by the pool. Yeah, it's a classic comedy it's a comedy comedy
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show. Pool time. Now, Dylan. The house, it's a nice
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house, has a really nice pool in the back. And when AJ caught
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wind of this nice pool, his wheels started attorning because AJ is a freelance
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photographer who likes to take pictures of comedy shows. Interesting. So yeah,
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so AJ had this idea, like, how cool would it be to take
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pictures of this exclusive comedy show by a pool. That would be awesome.
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It would be awesome cool. So AJ meets up with Dylan, pitches in
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the idea and uh, Aj is you know it? Says it sounds okay
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now, AJ says, Dylan, Dylan is on board. But until this
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point, AJ says Dylan was Dylan was on board for the party, and
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Dylan says, no, I was not on board for a party. Okay,
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okay, Dylan says, I want to make this very clear. I
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was pitched a comedy event. What happens was it turned into a full fledged
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rager, a full fledged run with people walking in and out of my house,
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which was not agreed to, and he rents the house. He rents
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the house with Kelly. Kelly's there, Oh, Kelly's there, Okay,
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Kelly's at the house, Okay, at the at the event event, the
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comedy event. And uh, Judge Ross is like, what's the difference event
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between an event and a party? And Dylan says, well, what happened
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was there was a DJ there that played music. And Dylan says, I
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was told that once the comedy was done, everyone would leave. And that's
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not what happened. I don't understand. He wanted to do a Dylan Dylan
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wanted to have a very professional comedy events by the pool, by the pool,
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hard out with alcohol. He did agree to the alcohol. Comedy's done,
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stop drinking, go home. Yes, don't stick around and drink more
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alcohol by the pool. That was the plan. Don't swim. Now.
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The good news is is this event, this nice, classy event that wanted
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to have, was only five dollars to get into. Okay, so you
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know how all the classy comedy lovers love to go those five dollars. Comedy
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events, not parties. It was the drinks weren't included on drinks were included,
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Dan, Oh my gosh, aj wanted to make sure that this was
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awesome, so he paid for the drinks. He just he we will get
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to the money here, and we'll get to the money in just so,
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man, where are the where are the pool? Comedy event? Open bars?
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They come. So around two hundred people show up to the party.
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Okay, not bad, not bad, not bad. Start going out of
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his house. You didn't like that, and Dylan claims that something happened that
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either a allowed people to enter the event without paying or b a J took
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more money. So it was supposed to it was supposed to be a split.
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That's not what happened. But remember Dan, this is not about the
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money guitar. This is about the guitar. And we will get there,
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I promise. So AJ says, listen, I paid for all the drinks.
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You know, I tried to, you know, get my money back
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for the drinks. Dylan's like, that's not what we agreed on. But
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again, not why we're here. So the day before the event, AJ
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says, hey, I have to drop off DJ equipment. Okay, and
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Kelly, you know Kelly, Kelly gave him a key, said no problem,
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here's the key, going there, leaving and it's good. Good to
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go. The day after the party, the event, Dylan and Kelly are
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out back cleaning everything up, working hard, and he's thinking to himself,
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man, where's Aj. Why isn't AJ here helping us clean up? AJ
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rolls up with his swim trunks on with more beer, ready to keep the
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event going, and Dylan says, I don't want to see your face here
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ever again. Since him off, I'm going to clean all this up myself.
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A week later, Oh boy, Dylan gets a text from AJ saying,
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Hey, I still have the key? Can I swing by and get
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my DJ equipment? Oh? Who's still there? Yeah? He's like,
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sure, I'm not here. I'm He's a He apparently works at a recording
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studio, so he's like, I'm in the studio, go by, I
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get it, and then never talk to me again. So he goes,
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gets the stuff, leaves the key on the kitchen counter. Dylan gets in
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from a long day's work in the studio, sees the key, is like,
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thank god, this is over, goes to bed, wakes up the
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next morning for band practice, and he goes down into his uh what does
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he call this room? The jam room? The jam room? Ahead this
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is a mansion. Apparently the jam room goes on a jam room, and
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he goes and he turns on the lights and and he reaches for his guitar,
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which is hanging by the light switch, and his guitar is nowhere to
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be found. Oh boy. Now here's a couple of things that we know
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about the guitar. One, it was seen at the party because Dylan's band
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played. Now Ross doesn't say I thought this was a comedy event. But
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my first thought was, Dylan, you're contributing to the problem. That's right.
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Comedy event, not comedy event, not a rager. If you wanted
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to be in a comedy event, you don't have your band play a quick
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fifteen minute set. So his guitar was seen at the party, and he
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remembers Aja. After the set he gets off stage and eight is like,
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man, that's a nice guitar. I played too, great guitar. Comment
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on the guitar. The week following, Dylan had been working on some new
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songs, so he was playing his guitar, so he had seen it since
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the party. The last person in the house was Aj. Aj mentioned like
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the guitar. It must have been Aj. Now you might say that's not
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enough, not enough. Well, what if I told you that there's a
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picture that appears on the internet a couple of days later of AJ playing at
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a gig with a guitar that looks very similar to Dylan's guitar. Now we
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see two pictures here. The first pictures of Dylan's guitar. The second is
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of AJ playing the gig. Now, this is what I will say about
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the guitar guy. This is what I will say about this. So this
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is not a straight straight ahead shot. He's kind of at an angle and
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there are stage lights, different colors. Is it the same guitar? It
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looks similar, it's close, but could it be the same. It could
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absolutely be the same guitar. Is it a pretty pretty generic guitar though,
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No, it's it's a nice, like a nice it's got like a nice
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sunburst to its It's a unique and you can kind of see the sunburst.
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But again, he's kind of at an angle. You can't exactly tell.
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It looks like a similar build, but you can't tell. And Judge Ross
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is ready to make his judgement. They're a police report filed. No police
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report here, no police report. Not that we are a claimed he didn't
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take it. AJ claims that he did not take the guitar and that he
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you can get that guitar anywhere. You can get it at any guitar shop.
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I have lots of guitars, no big deal, and this is tough
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I And AJ doesn't say that it's not the same style either. He just
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hit His defense is you could get that guitar and say I have a guitar
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just like it. He doesn't say that, but but when, but when
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Judge Ross is like, did you take the guitar, he says, no,
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you could get that guitar, pointing at the picture of Dylan's at any
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guitar shop. But you know, he never says I have one just he
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never says that he has one just like it, And he never said is
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that. You know, he just makes a point. There's just not enough
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evidence. There's not enough proof here to the burden of proof is on the
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planeiff and it did not it was not met. No money for Dylan.
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Judge Ross agrees with you to do anything, you have to have at least
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fifty one percent of you know, the overwhelming evidence that there's that it's on
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that it's on AJ and he says, if I would go off my gut,
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I think Aj is a liar and he and he stole it. Yeah,
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but I but you know I can't go off my gut in the court
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room. Kate dismissed. Kate dismissed. Kate, get it out, Kate.
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You're not welcome here anymore, Kate, Kate enough. I love the
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