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Episode 8 - Lets talk about archery · Three Damned Dudes

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  show, ladies and gentlemen. What's everybody drinking
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  tonight? I thought that was going to get
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  you. I'm really disabled.
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  It turns out I can read and speak better than your average
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  staff and CEO. For the listeners, I tried to, I
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  had to. Mike tried to get Mike to say if
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  You almost. You almost did.
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  You almost got me it. Was so subtle too.
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  It was. Now I've got to read.
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  Now I've got to pay attention to what I'm reading.
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  What is this? It's a good thing we personally
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  all know this fucking sponsor, otherwise you guys are going to
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  get us in trouble. And by you guys, I mean Jimmy.
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  I need to erase. I need to delete that before I
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  fuck it up on the next show. I tried to.
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  I tried to Ron Burg into your ass.
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  And go fuck yourself, San Diego. Gavin, what are you drinking
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  over there? Down there in Assault Rifle,
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  Kansas. I'm currently drinking a
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  Michelob Amber Bock because the liquor store has not been
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  available past couple of days so it's good.
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  It's just not my preferred beer, but I'm here for it.
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  That's fair. I mean, at least you don't have
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  to catch shit from Jimmy for drinking Miller Lite again.
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  Yeah, not until next week. Hopefully.
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  It's just a gross beer. It's not good.
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  Jimmy, what are you drinking over there?
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  Up there in America's High 5, the great state of Michigan.
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  I've got apple juice on the rocks.
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  Hell yeah. Yes, you missed it last week,
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  Gavin. Jimmy had grape juice.
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  An ocean spray a day keeps the pee pee pain away.
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  Remember that, folks. Yeah, it was Cran.
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  Grab cranberry grape. Yeah.
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  Now what? I respect it.
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  It's a good one. Oh fuck, what did you do?
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  This work? What the hell happened?
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  I don't know. I'm not there.
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  What did you do? What?
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  What just happened? Fucking can you hear me?
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  There we go. Yeah, this is.
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  Stupid. The stupid fucking podcast
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  machine fell again. You'd think by episode 8 Jimmy
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  would have figured this out, but.
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  Stupid frigging cord that I'm. Connected to.
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  That's fair. I am sipping on some bookers
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  over here and it is fucking delightful.
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  So cheers boys. Cheers OH.
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  God, I'm so full. Ow, it's so good, it's
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  delightful. It doesn't hurt at all.
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  You want to give a breakdown of that one like you've done them
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  faster. Nope, it's good.
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  I like it. It was expensive, so I'm I like
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  it. That was actually a gift from
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  another buddy of mine, also named Jake, at Barrett's Baby
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  Shower. So that bottle's in, that's
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  what. That one is.
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  I need better friends so that gift me high quality alcohol.
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  No, Gavin, what you need to do is just have kids and then
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  people feel obligated to bring you good alcohol.
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  No. All right, let's roll under the
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  recaps. So boys wearing hats that
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  actually show what you're wearing, because this is the
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  first time that I haven't had to have backwards on the show.
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  That's that's a cool thing. It's nice.
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  And we'll get into that in a little bit.
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  Let's talk about that fucking winter storm.
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  That butt fucked everything. It turns out if you wait until
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  the week of something that's supposed to be absolutely
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  fucking ridiculous bearing down on you, it is a huge pain in the
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  ass to find toddler sized snow gloves.
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  It's also a huge pain in the ass to find fucking rock salt.
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  So PSA to everyone out there, go get that shit well in advance.
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  Or at least order that shit on Amazon where it'll be there
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  before the storm fucking hits because I went to like 4
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  different fucking stores looking for gloves for my daughter.
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  Couldn't find shit. I had to go to play it again
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  sports and spent 40 fucking dollars on a pair of mitts that
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  she's going to outgrow next week. $40 yeah, $40 Who in their
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  right mind sells those for $40 at a year?
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  They were like legit snowboarding gloves.
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  And I don't think they were used.
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  I think they just bought a handful of things to put back in
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  that section. Yeah, but trying to find my
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  daughter gloves to go play in the snow, That was ridiculous.
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  And Speaking of my daughter, this this child, this feral
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  monster, She's at daycare the other day and the teacher's
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  looking around for her and realizes she's in the bathroom.
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  So OK, not not uncommon for a kid in that class to go to the
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  bathroom. They've got bathrooms in the
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  classroom and they're like working on like, oh, I need to
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  go, I'm going to go to the bathroom and go potty.
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  So the teacher walks in there and goes, Ridley, are you OK?
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  And Ridley's like, yeah, I'm changing.
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  And she's like OK, did you have an accident?
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  And she goes, no, I peed on the rug.
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  Mind you, the rug that it's like tile, wood, some sort of floor
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  that's not carpet or rugs throughout the building and
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  throughout the classrooms. They have like 2 rugs in the
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  class and she peed on one of them.
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  Just just straight up fucking pissed on it.
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  But apparently pissed on it threw her clothes.
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  But the part that gets me is the teacher says did you have an
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  accident? And she says no, I peed on the
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  rug. And the teacher in the class is
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  like what? Like understandably a little bit
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  upset about this because now the rug has to be cleaned.
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  She's like, what, why, Why would you What how what happened?
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  And she's like, look, I changed my clothes all by myself.
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  It's like, that's not the point. That's not what we're talking
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  about right now. So yeah, that's that's my
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  daughter pisses on the rug and then tries to sour patch kid you
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  by saying, but look, I changed my clothes all by myself and
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  then something. That it wasn't an accident
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  sounds like she did it on purpose.
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  That's where I was like, fucking what?
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  So yeah, I, I don't know. I don't know if she pissed on
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  the rug with malice or if it was an accident and she was trying
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  to hide it. Or she was like, oh, I peed and
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  now I have to go change and then I need to tell somebody that I
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  peed and she just had her priorities out of order.
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  Or if the teacher just got to her before Step 3.
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  But yeah. Yeah, you.
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  Got to keep an eye on that one. If the teacher wouldn't have
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  caught her in the bathroom, do you think she would have told
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  anybody? About it I.
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  I doubt it. Maybe.
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  I doubt it. Yeah, I know my daughter.
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  No, there's not a there's not a snowball's chance in hell that
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  she would have. But yeah.
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  And then today this child walks into the living room where my
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  wife and I are sitting. My wife's Holden, Barrett and
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  Ridley walks in and goes, hey, remember, don't eat farts.
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  And then just walks away and I'm like, yeah, OK, no, that's PSPSA
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  to all of our listeners. Guys, don't eat farts.
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  It's bad for your health. I don't know what to do with
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  her. She's too smart for my own good.
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  It's a. Problem with girls man, they are
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  smart, can't win, they do what they want, you're at their
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  mercy. Oh I know, I've been married to
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  him twice now. Yeah, yeah.
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  Well. At least the new one has mercy
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  because the first one didn't. Woof.
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  Woof. Woof, that and you know, just an
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  example of the fact that my kid is cooler than yours.
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  I already sent this video to the boys.
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  But for all of you, all of my friends out there who haven't
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  seen this video yet, my kids fucking cooler than yours
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  because she went bombing down the fucking neighbor's hill fast
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  as fuck. For reference, on the right
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  there is my neighbor's kid who made it a third of the way down.
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  So. So Yeah.
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  Well, yeah. OK, Ghosts.
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  Yeah. There you go.
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  So there's all that stuff. So yeah, my kids, my kids cooler
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  than yours, but she pees on rugs.
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  So yeah, you want some, you lose some.
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  And Barrett and I, he was sitting in his Bumbo seat on the
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  island in the kitchen, and he and I were just screaming at
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  each other the other day. And I'm not going to play that
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  video, but I basically look at him and go.
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  And he'd go. And that went back and forth for
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  so much longer than I thought it would.
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  So yeah, I'm starting young. I have yet to take him outside
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  when we're having a fire, but I suspect he's just going to sit
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  there and fucking stare at it as God intended.
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  As one does. Yeah, yeah.
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  So I've got a feral 3 year old and a potato that's nine months
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  old and he's just, he's just fucking happy to be here, man.
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  But that's my recap. Jimmy, what do you got?
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  Today was a day man. The my whole weekly recap is in
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  today. That's the wild part It started.
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  We've been trying to find a bunk bed for the boys so we can have
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  a little bit more room in the house instead of having multiple
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  beds. And we finally found one on
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  Facebook Marketplace. And Maddie's like, I want this,
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  can you pick it up today? I was like, yeah, I can pick it
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  up today. And so I'm going through, I'm
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  going through my day. And I ended up having to do this
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  project today where I had to cut up a bunch of wood.
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  And in the midst of all the chaos of me cutting and stuff, I
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  stepped on a nail, went through the shoe into my foot, into my
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  heel. So it that that hurt, I opted
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  not to go to the doctor because I already have my tetanus shot.
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  So I just cleaned it and got right back to it.
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  And then so I get off at 5:00 and it's like 450 Maddie's like,
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  hey, how are you going to pick that up?
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  Where's it? What are you going to used to
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  pick the bunk butt up? I was like my Traverse, all my
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  seats go down and it'll be fine. She's like, well, it's not
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  completely disassembled. And I go, what are you talking
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  about? She's like, yeah, the lady says
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  it's in like two or three pieces.
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  And I'm like, so I go to talk to my supervisor because we have we
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  have vehicles at at work. I was like, hey, can I borrow a
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  truck? And I explained the situation
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  and they're like, yeah, so they let me borrow a truck and that's
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  cool as fuck. So like, and, and the truck's
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  super bad ass. Like it's an F-250 extended
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  extended bed. It's got a plow on it.
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  It's a bad ass truck. And it the best part about the
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  truck is the is the back, you know, the bed cover, it's got
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  this mechanical electric bed cover that goes up and down.
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  So like, and it like it raises up but also keeps everything
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  dry. It basically you can either have
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  it, it goes up as high up as like a cap would, as if it had a
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  cap on the back, or just goes down to where it's flat to where
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  like a bed, a bed cover would be.
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  So that was super cool to have. So I get to the guy's house and
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  the bed cover didn't work. So that sucked.
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  So super excited about having this bad ass bed cover, but it's
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  so fucking cold outside. The bed cover was either frozen
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  to the bed or what, I don't know.
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  It wouldn't work. It wouldn't turn on and down I
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  we ended up having to completely disassemble the stupid bed
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  anyway even though I've got add the truck and yeah man.
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  I finally got home about 2020 to 30 minutes before we're supposed
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  to start and had to get dinner together.
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  The cats fucking being an asshole.
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  As soon as I open the door, you know, I'm yelling.
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  I'm like shut the fuck up. Like I'm yelling at the cat as
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  I'm bringing in bed, bed bunk pieces.
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  I realize I'm hangry. Like that's why I'm getting so
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  mad and shit. Freaking neighbor's dog is like
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  got he's got like this ankle biter dog.
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  It's like attacking the glass on the other side, like just trying
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  to get to me from inside of his house.
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  You're like, ah, dude, just kill that dog dude.
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  It's annoying. So it's been a it's been a rough
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  week today, I'll tell you. What a week today it's been.
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  Yeah, she's why, man, you're on the you're on the fucking home
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  stretcher. Today, though.
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  All you got to do is reassemble A bunk bed and move some other
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  beds out of the way, figure out where the fuck those are going
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  to go. I don't even want.
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  And thanks for having do that Pike.
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  It's only kind of mostly a little bit over, you know?
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  Shit, man, that sounds super fun and I love that for you.
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  Yeah, a little more is that it wasn't my day, so I'll take
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  solace in the fact that I didn't have to do that shit.
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  Yeah, so shout out to Maddie for having me pick up the punk punk
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  bed and not being here to help me with it.
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  That was. That's awesome.
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  Don't you love how they just fucking don't you love how they
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  just sign you up for shit? Oh, yeah, so and so can do that.
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  Like, Oh yeah, no, I can. That's definitely what I fucking
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  want to do. Right.
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  And yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right.
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  No, yeah, of course. Sure, why not?
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  Yeah, it's how I'll be. Yep.
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  It is, and I wish it wasn't, but here we all fucking are.
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  I mean, Gavin's the only smart one.
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  He's not married again yet. Yet.
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  Still got. I've still got a couple of bad
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  life traces under my belt. Well, I take that back, we're
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  all a bunch of fucking idiots. 100% I'm not not doing that
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  again anytime soon. No, I mean, Gavin, at this point
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  you should just do the second-half, gay man.
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  By the balls or whatever they say.
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  Yeah, something like that. I mean, see how the other half
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  lives. Speaking of Gavin's bad life
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  choices, let's get into your weekly recap, bud.
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  Yeah, what? The fuck are you?
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  Well, you're you're two weeks of recap.
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  Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Just want to touch on absence of
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  last week. So last weekend I went up to
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  Virginia, so a good friend of ours and go out there for his
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  birthday, hang out with, you know, him and the family.
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  And it was a good time. We had a lot of fun.
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  It was a good surprise for him. He really enjoyed it and like we
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  all got like a much needed break, but man, I'm getting too
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  old for those fucking quick turn and burns.
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  Like 2 flights. Well, not two flights, but like
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  2 days of flying in four days. Both of the days I didn't sleep
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  the night before because I had to be up at like two or three in
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  the morning for like 5:36 AM flights and it was just rough.
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  Like I got back on Tuesday and I was just fucking exhausted.
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  Body hurt so I just went to bed. I got passed out and didn't wake
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  up till the next day. But next time I go out to see
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  anybody or fly. Like I'm definitely going for a
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  week or something. Giving myself a chance to
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  fucking recover and not taking just stupid early flights
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  because fuck that. Yeah, there was that.
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  And then haven't really done much this past week because we
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  got hit with that big ass snowstorm and got it quite a
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  bit. Got like half a foot down here.
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  And the back half of it was all just like sleet and freezing
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  rain coming down. So yeah, a layer of like soft
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  stuff and then everything on top of it just hard iced over.
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  And being in the South, we're not prepared for it at all.
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  All the grocery stores end up empty.
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  Takes like 3 or 4 days for even the highways to get cleared.
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  And like neighborhoods, back roads, all that just fucked.
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  They're just a solid sheet of ice right now.
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  Because I went out earlier and was walking around the front
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  yard and like half of it wouldn't even crush underneath
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  my foot. So it's a, it's fun and it's
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  going to take a while for all that to clear and kind of melt.
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  But did a, did a solid job prepping for it, you know,
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  getting food and whatnot. Didn't lose power because all
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  the lines around here are buried.
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  So that was a big plus because it being like -6 negative 7
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  outside with windshield, like if I don't have power or like gas
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  fireplace that we have, it was sucked.
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  It will have been fucked. Yeah, that's pretty much it been
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  snowed in past couple of days. So I haven't really done
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  anything. What's your how's your
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  stilactite coming along? It's it's good.
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  It's grown in the corner. Yeah, sometimes I see it move.
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  So if it becomes sentient, just know you have to put it down.
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  I don't know how that's the problem.
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  Starting to look just like him. He actually cuts chunks off for
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  a sourdough. Starter kits, all the inside
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  jokes that nobody knows about. I'm sure I can figure it out.
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  Oh fuck. All right.
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  Are there any saved rounds or alibis on the weekly recaps?
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  Anybody got anything else? Nope.
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  Thank you. Very solid.
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  All right, so big news for us. We are now live on Apple
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  Podcasts. So if you're one of those, one
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  of those folks that has an iPhone or prefers Apple Music
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  over Spotify, you can find us over on that platform as well.
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  We're on there is the three damn dudes.
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  Well, not the three damn dudes. I think we're just three damn
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  dudes. But either way, you can find us.
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  I believe in you. We're there, I promise.
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  And so Gavin missed last week where we talked about ghosts and
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  shit. And that was, let me tell you,
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  that was a horrific fucking episode to edit.
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  I mean, to talk to the guy who is editing because one, fuck it,
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  one, I was there to talk about it and it freaked me out a
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  little bit. And then I had to listen to it
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  three more fucking times while editing it and got freaked out
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  every time. That was awful.
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  So with that being said, Gavin has some fucking ghost stories,
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  so we're going to do a little bit of Part 2 on that and then
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  we'll get into some other shit. So Gavin man, go for it dude.
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  Yeah, a little bit of ghost stories that actually involved
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  Mike also because was living at his house.
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  Report of this. Yeah, he's still not over it.
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  Pretty much how it goes is that one of our mutual friends had
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  deployed to Afghanistan right before I went out for the
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  rotation. But where we had worked, there
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  was always like some spooky shit going on.
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  Like you work in those kinds of places with that kind of
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  history, like that you, you run into something.
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  And the theory is that our friend had brought a ghost back
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  from Afghanistan and it snuggled up nice and cozy into Mike's
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  house. And nothing really came of it at
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  1st until he came over to my apartment at the time.
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  This was before I'd gone out and when I came back, I was living
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  with Mike at the time, but I had my own apartment at this time.
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  He came over and when he left, some weird shit started going
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  on. Like lights would turn on and
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  off. You would hear shit like knock
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  over in the kitchen when nobody else is home or I would just be
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  in my room. So we think that it kind of got
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  there a little bit dusted that place.
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  But then I went out to Afghanistan.
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  I didn't have to deal with that back home for a couple of
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  months, right? But when I came back, ended up
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  moving in with Mike and then some weird shit started
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  happening. We would we would hear things in
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  the kitchen. Shit you would hear like
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  footsteps upstairs. Also when you know, everybody's
• 26:48
  downstairs just hanging out and freak this out a little bit.
• 26:53
  And the, I think the best story I have was it was I think like
• 27:01
  Christmas Eve or something like that.
• 27:04
  And me, Mike and buddy Boris, we're just absolutely fucking
• 27:09
  alliterated as one does. And we were all in the living
• 27:16
  room. His wife is upstairs asleep.
• 27:20
  And Mike had a Google Home like the OR was it like Alexa or
• 27:25
  something like that? There was one of those things.
• 27:28
  Yeah, one of the fucking voice activated things and he had it
• 27:31
  over in the kitchen, right? So we're sitting there watching
• 27:35
  TV hanging out and I don't know if we like pause like TV or we
• 27:41
  looking for something else to watch, but it got like super
• 27:44
  quiet for a few minutes. And in that time we hear the
• 27:49
  Google Home like go off and just like this deep like gutter,
• 27:55
  gutter rule, like fucking like growl, something goes over the
• 27:59
  Google Home and then just and like abruptly stops.
• 28:04
  And we all the fuck out. We just we got sat there and we
• 28:08
  looked at each other. We were like, the fuck was that?
• 28:12
  It was like, I didn't do that. You didn't do that.
• 28:17
  So we all kind of cuddled up after that, sat in the living
• 28:20
  room looking at the Google Home, just like waiting for something
• 28:24
  else to happen. And now PCSI got the fuck out
• 28:31
  there. I left it with Mike.
• 28:33
  But we, we ended up naming that ghost Susan.
• 28:37
  The Afghan ghost named Susan and anytime something unexplained
• 28:45
  happened or we were here, like a fucking bump, the footsteps, one
• 28:50
  of us would just immediately yell God damn it, Susan.
• 28:54
  So probably, if it was there, probably antagonized it a little
• 29:00
  bit more than we should have, but it wasn't my problem to deal
• 29:03
  with for too much longer. So Mike, anything weird capture
• 29:10
  anything on cameras after I left and.
• 29:13
  No, there was just that. There was that orb and then I
• 29:20
  guess probably after Ski had moved in.
• 29:25
  Yeah, it was when Ski was living there in the basement.
• 29:28
  Me and Dave. You remember Dave?
• 29:32
  Yeah, I remember Dave. Yeah, rest in peace you old
• 29:34
  dirty fuck. I missed that guy, but Dave and
• 29:39
  I were reworking some plumbing so we were replacing a toilet on
• 29:42
  the main floor. We realized we needed something
• 29:44
  else from Home Depot, so we set a probably 12 inch section of
• 29:50
  four inch diameter PVC like standing up, and it was a clean
• 29:54
  fucking straight cut standing up on the counter.
• 29:59
  And as we had turned to walk out the door into the garage to get
• 30:02
  in the truck and go to Home Depot, that thing just fucking
• 30:05
  flew off the goddamn countertop. I was like, I looked at Dave.
• 30:10
  Dave looked at me. And we're both like, did that
• 30:12
  just. Oh, fuck.
• 30:17
  Oh, OK. Hey, don't break anything
• 30:19
  expensive, please. It's expensive.
• 30:25
  Yeah. And like, I, I remember one
• 30:26
  night I was sitting on the couch in that house.
• 30:28
  And so like sitting on the couch facing the TV, the door is off
• 30:32
  like over my right shoulder and then immediately inside of the
• 30:37
  door or the stairs to go up to the second level.
• 30:40
  So I'd be sitting on the couch and out of the corner of my eye,
• 30:43
  the shadows from the wall on the stairs where the stairs, like
• 30:47
  the railing would start, you would see just real quick
• 30:53
  inconsistencies in the fucking shadows, which, no, no, they're
• 31:00
  like laying in bed. You'd hear the stairs creak and
• 31:05
  I'm like, I'm, I don't, I don't like, I don't like this.
• 31:10
  I'm not having fun anymore. But yeah, I don't think Susan
• 31:17
  came here. But now I am in a very different
• 31:20
  spot and I have different concerns like fucking wendigos
• 31:22
  and goddamn skinwalkers and shit.
• 31:25
  So. So yeah, I think on that
• 31:29
  Michigan trip we need to spend a day at Jimmy's house and talk to
• 31:33
  his shadow figure doing laundry, though we break out some voice
• 31:37
  recorders and see if we can figure out what the fuck is
• 31:39
  over. There with whatever we think is.
• 31:43
  Here. Oh, I I want to.
• 31:45
  Yeah, we can do that. I think that's a big rule that
• 31:50
  that exists, is if there's something, we don't try to
• 31:53
  communicate with it. I mean, we fucked with Susan
• 31:56
  enough and she never did anything so.
• 31:59
  We could, Yeah. I she's not that.
• 32:01
  She never do. It's not that she never did
• 32:03
  anything, I said. It never escalated.
• 32:07
  True. Yeah.
• 32:08
  See, I'd rather just, you know, not, but I mean not try that.
• 32:13
  Try. Well, Jimmy, you're to.
• 32:14
  See if he could, you know, like be a little bit more precise
• 32:18
  with the laundry. Separate the whites and colors,
• 32:21
  talking about what detergent he uses.
• 32:28
  I haven't, Jimmy. I haven't had that happen.
• 32:30
  I haven't seen anything. Well, just remember that you're
• 32:34
  the one talking about it out loud sitting in your house, not
• 32:38
  us. Talking about what exactly?
• 32:47
  Oh fucking hell yeah, Gavin. You got any other ghost stories
• 32:51
  you wanted to pile on to last week's episode?
• 32:54
  No, I think that's the, I think that's the biggest highlight of
• 32:57
  that. Thank God.
• 33:01
  So I'm I, I need a break from talking about spooky shit.
• 33:06
  That is, that is not my. That is not my thing.
• 33:11
  Not that flavor of white. No, no, I don't even get down on
• 33:16
  like the the true crime or murder mystery shit man.
• 33:20
  Not that it freaks me out, I just don't care.
• 33:22
  Oh man, dude, I freaking love of mystery.
• 33:26
  I fucking, I obsess over that shit.
• 33:31
  You should have seen my fucking. You should have seen my
• 33:34
  presentation that Do you remember the Did you ever have
• 33:38
  Miss Lebow? Yes.
• 33:41
  Remember the big paper that we had to write with the with the
• 33:46
  footnotes or whatever at the bottom?
• 33:48
  Parenthetic citation My my paper was on serial killers and I held
• 33:57
  no punches back in my paper or my PowerPoint presentation.
• 34:03
  I walked you into Jeffrey Dahmer's bathroom and showed you
• 34:07
  all of this fucked up shit right before lunch.
• 34:13
  And then it said and then I told everybody at the end of my
• 34:15
  presentation, have a good lunch. I fucking love.
• 34:21
  That shit Jimmy who have a good. Lunch at Sloppy Joe's today.
• 34:26
  Yeah, I've always, I've always found that that that area very,
• 34:36
  very fascinating. Like it's, it's interesting from
• 34:41
  a, from a psychology, sociology standpoint, but like, I don't
• 34:45
  need to be further convinced that shitty people exist in the
• 34:48
  world. Like I don't need to feed into
• 34:51
  my own fucking preconceived notions and and stereotypes and
• 34:56
  fucking biases. I can 100% agree with that.
• 35:02
  It's because the nature of the work that we did for a while,
• 35:06
  you kind of got to see the worst of humanity.
• 35:09
  So I can understand that. So yeah, it's just, it's not my
• 35:16
  jam. And like, as soon as like
• 35:19
  there's kids involved, like my whole mentality fucking shifts.
• 35:23
  It's like, Oh yeah, this guy got well, he did this to X amount of
• 35:28
  kids. It's like, oh, he got you got
• 35:29
  life in prison. Oh, that's, that's astonishing.
• 35:34
  He should have gotten feet first in 1/2 broken wood chipper.
• 35:38
  Yeah, yeah, I agree. But that's just me.
• 35:44
  Those are my opinions. Yeah, I think before we further
• 35:50
  go down that fucking depressing ass, very spicy fucking rabbit
• 35:54
  hole, Jimmy, you want to go into your topic that you wanted to do
• 35:59
  last week? What topic was that?
• 36:08
  Why does everyone in the military seem to get married
• 36:10
  right away? It's do you not have the Google
• 36:13
  doc pulls up? What are you doing?
• 36:15
  No, I don't. I'm.
• 36:17
  I'm just fucking winging it today.
• 36:19
  Yeah, I thought you were. I thought you were setting
• 36:21
  setting something else up. What did you think I was setting
• 36:25
  up? My ChatGPT ghost bit.
• 36:28
  Oh no, you should go into that though, because that was.
• 36:31
  That's a better segue. It's very disappointing.
• 36:36
  We can all be disappointed together.
• 36:37
  I have that preloaded up. So I wanted to do because we do
• 36:42
  a ChatGPT, but I wanted to have ChatGPT write and I said write a
• 36:48
  truly terrifying ghost story. And I told it to include our
• 36:52
  names on it. And I I want me to just read it
• 36:56
  because I I also made sure that it was.
• 36:58
  Short. Yeah, just read it.
• 37:01
  So it's like Camp Steyr format or Campfire story format.
• 37:07
  So it says. At exactly 3:17 AM, Mike heard
• 37:11
  knocking inside the wall. 3 taps, pause. 3 taps.
• 37:16
  Jimmy said it was pipes. Gavin didn't answer.
• 37:19
  He was staring at the wall like he was listening to someone
• 37:22
  breathe on the other side. The next night, the knocking
• 37:26
  stopped. A whisper replaced it.
• 37:29
  Mike. They tore open the drywall and
• 37:33
  found an old tape recorder, warm to the touch.
• 37:36
  No batteries. It started playing by itself.
• 37:40
  The first voice was Mike's. I shouldn't have gone into the
• 37:44
  walls. The second was Jimmy screaming.
• 37:48
  The third was Gavin's, begging them to remember.
• 37:52
  The lights flickered and the wall bulged inward, handprints
• 37:55
  pressed out from the inside. Too many fingers.
• 37:59
  Too many hands. Carved into the studs were three
• 38:02
  names. Over and over, Mike, Jimmy, and
• 38:06
  Gavin. The tape clicked off.
• 38:09
  The knocking started again. This time it came from inside
• 38:14
  their chests. So that shit sucked.
• 38:19
  What the fuck? So.
• 38:20
  So let's let's dig into that a little bit.
• 38:22
  The symbolism, the symbolism of the three knocks.
• 38:26
  So do you guys, do you guys get what that is a reference to?
• 38:29
  Yes, the Holy. Trinity the pattern of three is
• 38:32
  a mocking of the Holy Trinity. That's that's demonic shit.
• 38:38
  And what the. I hope that Mike was the central
• 38:42
  figure in this. What did I do?
• 38:45
  Because you clearly did something.
• 38:47
  Why did I go into the wall? Why was I the first one to talk
• 38:51
  on the tape? Why was I the only one to
• 38:54
  remember? Remember what?
• 38:58
  Jimmy, what did you even do in that story?
• 39:01
  What did you even do? You were just there.
• 39:03
  He. Was just.
• 39:04
  There I apparently I did some screaming.
• 39:07
  And you screamed. And that's it, I.
• 39:12
  Jeez. I don't really understand what
• 39:14
  happened in that story. We, we found a tape recording
• 39:18
  and we something bad happened to us in this tape recording and
• 39:23
  that was it. I don't, I don't know.
• 39:25
  Yeah, and then the the mocking of the Holy Trinity was
• 39:28
  happening inside of our fucking chest.
• 39:32
  Damn, we truly are three damn dudes.
• 39:35
  Oh. Damn it.
• 39:37
  Damn it. OK, next bit.
• 39:39
  Why does everybody get fucking married?
• 39:41
  I'm over this shit. If any one of us mysteriously
• 39:46
  disappears at some point in the future, I'm blaming Jimmy.
• 39:50
  That's fucking cursed ass story. And if you find a fucking tape
• 39:54
  recorder with no batteries, for the love of God, fucking burn
• 39:57
  it. Stupid ChatGPT Ghost so so this
• 40:04
  so I guess so the question that I have for you guys is you see
• 40:10
  it all the time on base and everything.
• 40:14
  We're like young guys go into the military.
• 40:19
  They're, you know, 18-19 years old.
• 40:22
  And then very, very quickly, they end up married, whether
• 40:27
  they meet a girl out there or they were dating somebody in
• 40:32
  high school and then they get married.
• 40:36
  Is that so they can have their partner come to base?
• 40:39
  Is that the only way you can have a partner come on base?
• 40:42
  Do you guys get like hell of a benefits like for doing that?
• 40:46
  Do you get paid more? Like what?
• 40:47
  What is it in the military? Because there's got to be
• 40:50
  something because it happens so much like that these young kids
• 40:57
  just get married on the service. So there's a lot that kind of
• 41:04
  feeds into it, like, yeah, whether, you know, they were
• 41:09
  dating somebody in high school and they were like, Yep, this is
• 41:12
  the one. Can you hear that?
• 41:19
  Yeah, yes. Sorry, it's the washing machine
• 41:24
  it turned on by itself. God damn it, laundry ghost.
• 41:28
  All right, hang on, let's let's pause.
• 41:30
  Wait, wait. Are we just going to gloss?
• 41:31
  Over that the fact that the fucking.
• 41:33
  Gloss are just turned off by itself.
• 41:35
  Jimmy, we were just talking about.
• 41:38
  This let's pause. What the fuck?
• 41:48
  Welcome our first damn dude. It's Jimmy's laundry ghost.
• 41:51
  How you doing tonight? What the fuck?
• 41:55
  Do you mean the? Washer just turned on by itself.
• 41:59
  This Jimmy's in straight a fucking denial.
• 42:03
  If we didn't fucking mention that, would he have said
• 42:06
  anything? Because he won't ask him.
• 42:09
  Were you just going to gloss over the fact that that fucking
• 42:11
  happened? I.
• 42:13
  Hate to disappoint you, but that was my furnace.
• 42:18
  It was not. It was not actually.
• 42:20
  My washing machine. It was my heater that kicked
• 42:24
  out. So so.
• 42:30
  You are an HVAC ghost as well. Yeah, the HVAC ghost is cheated
• 42:38
  by the number 69 because that's what I have it programmed in my
• 42:42
  thermostat. So hey, but it should kick off
• 42:47
  on this I guess. I bet you don't hear it on the
• 42:51
  recording though. Probably not.
• 42:54
  It'll probably. Not.
• 42:55
  So basically for all the listeners is randomly my my
• 42:58
  heat, my heat vent tipped on and yeah, you guys heard the rest.
• 43:07
  What the fuck are we talking about?
• 43:10
  Gavin was talking about why dudes get married, and then we
• 43:13
  all got super sidetracked because it sounded like a parade
• 43:16
  of fucking cars on the freeway was going by an open window
• 43:19
  right behind you. So badly, like I'm really,
• 43:23
  really glad it's not, but I'm also really sad that it wasn't
• 43:27
  my washing machine. You know?
• 43:30
  Like, I'm so fucking glad because I, if it was, listen, if
• 43:33
  it was my washing machine, you wouldn't have seen anything but
• 43:37
  me run through my fucking laptop and off the goddamn door.
• 43:42
  I'm not, I'm not sticking around to find out what the fuck's
• 43:45
  going on. With that Jesus, Yeah.
• 44:00
  Oh fuck. No, what?
• 44:01
  What was I saying? Do you just want to start over?
• 44:06
  Live in the second-half gay or something.
• 44:08
  I don't know. You were saying that there's a
• 44:13
  lot that goes into it with getting married and.
• 44:15
  Sort of Oh yeah, whether it's young guys that, you know, was
• 44:21
  dating somebody in high school and they're like, all right,
• 44:24
  cool. I want to move them up to like
• 44:26
  the area I'm at XY and Z. The only way to do this getting
• 44:30
  married. There's a lot of young guys that
• 44:35
  get married like right out of like a school, like I don't know
• 44:39
  what it's called for you guys. The I don't know what you just
• 44:51
  did, but. We're going to gloss over it.
• 44:54
  It's fine. OK.
• 44:56
  I changed my name. I didn't know I could do that.
• 45:06
  I didn't know I could do that Midstream.
• 45:11
  It doesn't. Show up for the listeners.
• 45:13
  It doesn't show up for that. Right, But it might show up in
• 45:16
  the show description that I'll have to pay attention to now.
• 45:18
  Thanks for that for the listeners.
• 45:21
  What Jimmy has done is he changed his display name in the
• 45:25
  in the GUI that we were recording in right now.
• 45:27
  So my ex wife's name, which is the same fucking bit that Jimmy
• 45:32
  pulled when he initially logged in to Riverside tonight.
• 45:39
  So yeah, thanks. Thanks for that, Jimmy.
• 45:41
  Thanks bud. Well, that thank you and.
• 45:49
  You know, on that note, technical difficulties, Yeah,
• 45:53
  that's what we'll call it. Yeah.
• 45:57
  But Mike, I don't know what a school was called for you guys.
• 46:00
  It's called a school. A school, OK yeah, whether they
• 46:04
  meet somebody there and they're like, oh, I want to get
• 46:07
  stationed with this person, but, you know, get buried after two
• 46:12
  months so we can be stationed together.
• 46:15
  Or, you know, some guys do it straight for the benefits of,
• 46:19
  you know, getting the VH, the extra money or to like, give
• 46:24
  somebody. I've seen it before where like
• 46:28
  somebody got married to their friend just so their friend
• 46:31
  could have health insurance, which you're definitely not
• 46:35
  supposed to do. But yeah, no, there's, there's a
• 46:41
  lot of different reasons that guys do it.
• 46:43
  A lot of it is just you don't know any better and you're being
• 46:47
  fucking stupid. You meet somebody right off the
• 46:50
  RIP and you're like, oh, yeah, this is the one.
• 46:52
  I've never been an adult before, but this is what adults are
• 46:55
  supposed to do. And they do it and fucking
• 46:58
  crumbles within a year. And no matter how much somebody
• 47:03
  tells you, hey, don't do this stupid fucking thing, the cycle
• 47:07
  continues. All the young guys just keep
• 47:10
  fucking doing it because I have. That's definitely like one of
• 47:15
  the stereotypes about the military is like, oh, you're
• 47:19
  going to get in and you're going to get married right away and
• 47:22
  it's going to be horrible and crumble.
• 47:24
  And you go and you're like, no, there's, there's no way.
• 47:27
  And then you see how much it happens and you're like, holy
• 47:30
  shit, everybody is fucking done. Like most of the people I knew
• 47:35
  ended up doing it. And it obviously doesn't work
• 47:39
  out the first time. Yeah, fucking doesn't work out,
• 47:45
  but the cycle continues. So I was going to kick it over
• 47:53
  to Mike, but he's currently dying.
• 47:55
  Suburban is so good. They pay you more if you're
• 47:59
  married. Yeah, so you'll get a Bah, basic
• 48:04
  housing allowance where it's essentially A stipend for you
• 48:09
  living on your own, right? It's to cover rent basically.
• 48:14
  Bah usually matches one is based off pay grade so the different
• 48:22
  ranks get a different amount. But it's usually like right
• 48:26
  there at the median price of whatever the surrounding areas
• 48:31
  rent it's so if you know say it cost the average price of rent
• 48:37
  out in Maryland to $1600, right? Like an E3 or E4, they get like
• 48:43
  16-17 hundred dollars extra to pay for rent.
• 48:49
  So. OK.
• 48:53
  So there's like, there's definitely an incentive to get
• 48:57
  married, but. Technically yes, Technically no.
• 49:02
  It definitely isn't worth it. I get being in the barracks is
• 49:07
  shitty sometimes. You're in there until you're
• 49:09
  like me 5 so you could be, you know, 2425 living in the bricks
• 49:16
  with a bunch of other dudes having to share showers and shit
• 49:19
  like that. The barracks aren't always up to
• 49:23
  snuff and this is bad Big issue recently, especially with like
• 49:28
  the Marines in the Navy is like like barracks aren't taken care
• 49:34
  of. It takes forever to get
• 49:35
  maintenance requests approved. You could be living in places
• 49:38
  that have like huge bold problem that you can't deal with.
• 49:43
  It sucks. It definitely sucks.
• 49:45
  But some of my best memories were hanging out barracks with a
• 49:50
  bunch of guys that either like at the smoke, but hanging out
• 49:53
  drinking on Thursday, Friday night.
• 49:58
  But some people really enjoy it. Other people really don't.
• 50:02
  They just want to get the fuck out.
• 50:03
  They want to be away from it all.
• 50:06
  So like it's not technically incentivized.
• 50:10
  It's not, hey, get married and you know, all these great things
• 50:14
  will be given to you. But there is like a monetary
• 50:17
  gain with it so. For example, a real quick Google
• 50:22
  search average apartments in Maryland, the studio goes for
• 50:30
  anywhere between 1500 and 2001. Bedroom is right around 15102,
• 50:36
  bedrooms are 19 to 2300. The Bah rate.
• 50:44
  So the housing allowance rate for an E3 in 2026 is $2739.
• 50:55
  It's so how many? $2739 that's E3 with dependence.
• 51:03
  Oh, that's with dependence. OK, yeah, so the.
• 51:05
  Whole like getting married for the benefits thing.
• 51:07
  So that's how you would get the with dependence thing.
• 51:09
  Without dependence is 2178. It's for an E. 3 E 3.
• 51:16
  What zip code did you use? Let me look at this real quick.
• 51:19
  Is that on top of your salary? Yes, yes. 2075.
• 51:24
  Join the fucking military dude. Holy fuck no.
• 51:28
  Fucking. Wonder, join the military and
• 51:31
  get married. Hopefully, but.
• 51:33
  Yeah, shit, yeah, but. It's put that into perspective.
• 51:37
  When I was in E3 in Maryland, getting BHI was getting like
• 51:44
  1650. The rates have gone up
• 51:47
  substantially since. I think that was like 2019.
• 51:52
  Yeah, thanks, Obama. A quick a quick Google search of
• 52:01
  the divorce rate in first term Marines.
• 52:05
  So guys in their first enlistment in the Marine Corps,
• 52:08
  it's over 60%. So a lot of those guys that, you
• 52:13
  know, marry their high school sweetheart or find somebody at
• 52:15
  their first duty station over 60%.
• 52:18
  And that's not, that's not like for or against getting married.
• 52:23
  Like I know guys that like married their high school
• 52:25
  sweetheart and they're still married, right.
• 52:27
  And that specific dude that I'm thinking of, he retired from the
• 52:32
  Marine Corps two years ago. So like it, it's not to say that
• 52:38
  it can't work. Just statistically speaking,
• 52:42
  you've got a 40% shot or a less than 40% shot of it working.
• 52:47
  But looking at the numbers, like it's not hard to see why guys
• 52:50
  will get married to, you know, plus up their fucking paycheck
• 52:54
  or to get out of the barracks. Or the other thing that we
• 52:58
  haven't really touched on is that marriage is like dating in
• 53:07
  the military. Like if you want any sort of
• 53:09
  time or you want to have any sort of like one-on-one that
• 53:15
  doesn't require checking a visitor in and out of a shared
• 53:18
  barracks room with somebody else.
• 53:21
  Like you're either shelling on money for a hotel room or you're
• 53:25
  getting married and getting a place and basically dating at
• 53:28
  that point. You're dating your spouse to see
• 53:30
  if this is something that will fucking work. 100% And that's a
• 53:34
  good point that I didn't think of, yeah, because trying to date
• 53:39
  at those lower levels is extremely difficult.
• 53:47
  Just yeah, you really just don't have the time to be with the
• 53:50
  other person. So that's, that's a good point.
• 54:00
  Well. That makes sense.
• 54:02
  I get that. Makes sense as to why you see it
• 54:05
  happen so much. I mean, I was, you're basically
• 54:08
  getting an extra, you know, I'm basically, I'm not.
• 54:13
  You're getting an extra paycheck on top of your paycheck.
• 54:17
  You know, that's so I I I like, dude, I have a fucking wish
• 54:24
  every job was like that, man. I would friggin, you know, like,
• 54:28
  yeah, like you mean to tell me that I can just pay rent and get
• 54:31
  paid and I'm just not, you know, pay rent with what I get paid?
• 54:36
  Hell yeah, Sign me up, dude. Yeah, but now that makes sense.
• 54:42
  You know, it sucks that that's the only way is to get married
• 54:45
  because you really don't know who you're with until you've
• 54:48
  lived with them. You really learn who somebody is
• 54:52
  once you live with them. You can hide for years.
• 54:57
  You can hide somebody's personality and somebody's, you
• 55:01
  know, who they are as a person and their secrets and
• 55:03
  everything. If you only see them a couple
• 55:05
  hours a day, you know, if you're just hanging out a little bit,
• 55:08
  you're not going to see their patterns.
• 55:10
  You're not going to see how like you're going to see everything
• 55:13
  if you live with them. And so like if you start square
• 55:16
  one, like, hey, let's move in together, you know, it's of
• 55:20
  course it's not going to work out.
• 55:22
  And then, man, divorce rates, like divorce, like hope, Thank
• 55:26
  God. Some states are like, yeah, you
• 55:29
  don't have to pay alimony until you've been together for three
• 55:31
  years. I don't know, you know, 'cause
• 55:34
  then, then you know. Yeah, like.
• 55:38
  That would be nice. It's kind of good you've
• 55:41
  mentioned the living together thing because in the military,
• 55:46
  especially in the barracks, there is something called
• 55:48
  ghosting the barracks where you're still assigned the
• 55:53
  barracks room, you're still responsible for needing it to
• 55:57
  like be cleaned. Make sure all the maintenance is
• 56:00
  up to date where you have requests submitted, like weekly
• 56:06
  inspections, things like that. But there's some guys that you
• 56:10
  know, if they do end up with somebody that has the wrong
• 56:13
  place and they go and live with them, you still have all the
• 56:16
  responsibilities on the back end of if you're not married, you've
• 56:20
  still got to maintain that space.
• 56:22
  You've got to be there for inspections.
• 56:25
  And sometimes you'll even get in trouble if you are like ghosting
• 56:29
  the barracks. If they come through for an
• 56:31
  inspection, they're like, hey, you live here, but none of your
• 56:35
  shit's here. You don't have any clothes here.
• 56:37
  There's no food or anything like that.
• 56:39
  It's like, yeah, we know you're ghosting.
• 56:41
  You're going to get in trouble for that because everything in
• 56:46
  the military is about, you know, being at your assigned place.
• 56:51
  And that is like your assigned place in your off time is your
• 56:56
  marriage room. So you're expected to be there.
• 57:01
  So it's, yeah, it's kind of a pain in the ass.
• 57:06
  Have another question that's kind of in the same kind of in
• 57:14
  the same category as as this kind of, but kind of a little
• 57:17
  more, I think is it called the bass Bunny?
• 57:22
  Is that what they're called? Like women who live barracks
• 57:25
  Bunny? How so?
• 57:27
  I I don't know this person. I know of a person who fits this
• 57:33
  description and I don't understand how that works
• 57:37
  because this this girl has like lived on base for years now and
• 57:44
  she's not in the service and I don't think the original guy
• 57:49
  that she was with is even in the service anymore.
• 57:53
  How? Is it does not surprise me.
• 57:56
  How so? How?
• 57:56
  How does that happen? Because I've heard of I've heard
• 58:00
  of this happening before. I don't know.
• 58:02
  This is kind of like a more. I don't know.
• 58:08
  So the the individual that you're talking about, was she
• 58:12
  married to a service member? I'm not 100% sure.
• 58:16
  Like I said, I don't know that I know of this person.
• 58:18
  I don't know her personally. OK, let's pretend for a second.
• 58:22
  Let's just hypothetically, she was married to a service member
• 58:24
  and they were living in base housing, right?
• 58:27
  If they were to get divorced and their spouse goes and moves back
• 58:32
  to the barracks, there is a period of time where that
• 58:36
  individual rates to continue living in that base housing
• 58:40
  while they figure out where the fuck they're going to go next.
• 58:44
  So they build in a time period for them to continue to occupy
• 58:47
  that space before like immediately kicking them out.
• 58:52
  And also hypothetically, if she were to, I don't know, find
• 58:56
  someone else to get courthouse married to on a Friday and move
• 59:00
  them into her base house or move into another base house, that
• 59:05
  could absolutely fucking happen. However, the term barracks Bunny
• 59:12
  much much closer applies to the chick I guess.
• 59:17
  Or dude right it's 2026 that is at all of the parties and never
• 59:24
  seems to not find a room to sleep in.
• 59:27
  Yeah, no, I get that. Well this this person has had
• 59:32
  multiple kids now on base, so that's why there.
• 59:39
  Are instances like that where you can guy goes out in the
• 59:45
  town, finds a civilian, brings them in for the night, checks
• 59:49
  men and everything like that, or gets my visitor's pass or
• 59:52
  whatever and they just that it's the term barracks.
• 59:57
  Funny because they kind of hop from room to room like you.
• 1:00:02
  I've known girls that or guys over that just kind of go up and
• 1:00:07
  down the hall knocking on doors and one of the desperate, lonely
• 1:00:13
  sailors, Marine soldiers, whatever.
• 1:00:16
  See this wagon hot person in front of them, They'll be like
• 1:00:20
  hell yeah. I've known a couple that they
• 1:00:26
  were delivery drivers for a service like Papa John's or
• 1:00:30
  something like that where they had privileges to come on to
• 1:00:34
  base to deliver things and that's how they would get on
• 1:00:37
  base. They would just come in as
• 1:00:39
  delivery driver and stay for the weekend or whatever and just
• 1:00:43
  wouldn't leave. Sometimes it's somebody that's
• 1:00:49
  in the service that it's just going around, you know.
• 1:00:53
  So having someone stay on for like years though, I've never
• 1:01:03
  heard that that's that's a new one to me.
• 1:01:06
  There's probably, there's, there's probably more to the
• 1:01:09
  situation that I'm that I, that I know.
• 1:01:13
  So does it matter if you have a if you have a kid with a service
• 1:01:18
  member, even if you've divorced? I mean it matters, but not I
• 1:01:23
  don't think it matters for like base access entitlements like
• 1:01:27
  you'll. No.
• 1:01:29
  You're I guess your kid may still rate Tricare and may still
• 1:01:35
  rate to be seen on base. Yes because the kid will be
• 1:01:38
  labeled as a dependent of yours. So the kid will have all of your
• 1:01:43
  benefits. The ex-spouse, partner, if y'all
• 1:01:49
  weren't even together, they don't rate anything because
• 1:01:52
  they're not a dependent of yours.
• 1:01:58
  But unless there's, you know, something legally tied up there
• 1:02:03
  like you've got in trouble for like child support or anything
• 1:02:06
  like that, that's when the military will get involved.
• 1:02:12
  But aside from that they they really don't care who you're who
• 1:02:17
  the other half wives if y'all aren't married, you know?
• 1:02:24
  I got you. Yeah, it's a, it's a real weird
• 1:02:31
  one. There's there's no shortage of
• 1:02:33
  perceived loopholes to continue living on base if that's if
• 1:02:40
  that's what somebody were to decide that they wanted to do
• 1:02:42
  long term. But yeah, it's, it's weird.
• 1:02:48
  And without the full story like being able to to identify like,
• 1:02:52
  Oh yeah, at that point, this individual is in danger of
• 1:02:54
  losing base access. So they did X or they did Y and
• 1:02:58
  that retained their base access privileges or you know what,
• 1:03:01
  like it's there's so many different branch and sequel
• 1:03:04
  plans that could have taken place and right.
• 1:03:08
  That's assuming that this individual wanted to stay on a
• 1:03:11
  base somewhere. So it, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:03:18
  Yeah, I don't really, I don't really know much more about the
• 1:03:21
  situation other than that. So I was just, I was just
• 1:03:23
  curious because I had, I definitely have heard before
• 1:03:27
  knowing of this person. I've heard of the term before.
• 1:03:30
  So like I didn't, I just, it piqued my it piqued my
• 1:03:34
  curiosity. Like how does that get by?
• 1:03:37
  Like how how do you how do you pull that off?
• 1:03:40
  Like it just seems weird to me you would think it would be
• 1:03:47
  harder to obtain that considering it's our military
• 1:03:52
  and you know, just let anybody in it's.
• 1:03:56
  Pretty wild. Just just remember folks, you
• 1:03:59
  can take the Bunny out of the barracks, but you can't take the
• 1:04:02
  barracks out of the Bunny. Active.
• 1:04:05
  It's gross. Yeah.
• 1:04:13
  So are there, is there anything else we want to talk about on
• 1:04:16
  that, on that fucking disgusting fucking topic, or are we all
• 1:04:21
  good? I'm good, my questions have been
• 1:04:25
  answered. When touch that with the word
• 1:04:27
  poll. I wouldn't fuck that with your
• 1:04:30
  Dick. Thank you.
• 1:04:36
  All right, let's let's fucking talk about archery, boys.
• 1:04:40
  Let's talk about playing the old wack, Fuck the string gun, the I
• 1:04:47
  want to stab that guy all the way over there, but I don't feel
• 1:04:50
  like getting over there. Let's talk about shooting
• 1:04:53
  archery. So for those of you who've been
• 1:04:58
  around the whole time, my hat is always backwards.
• 1:05:01
  And that's because all of my hats are very obviously logo
• 1:05:04
  branded and I don't want to inadvertently bring anybody else
• 1:05:09
  into our shit show by association.
• 1:05:12
  That's important because I got in touch with the owner of
• 1:05:17
  Howling Archery and explained to him that, hey, I'm doing this
• 1:05:22
  podcast thing and I, I wear your hat all the time.
• 1:05:26
  I wear your shirt all the time. Like I, that's just what I do
• 1:05:31
  anyway. Are you OK if I wear it while we
• 1:05:34
  record this podcast? And he's like, yeah, man,
• 1:05:37
  absolutely fucking go for it and write that's he didn't say that
• 1:05:41
  because he's a professional. He's an outstanding guy.
• 1:05:44
  But we're going to start this archery talk off with me
• 1:05:50
  basically talking about howling archery for like, I don't know,
• 1:05:55
  a minute maybe. But any of you fellow archery
• 1:06:01
  shooters out there, hopefully you share the sentiment that
• 1:06:05
  it's difficult to find a solid archery shop that you trust with
• 1:06:10
  your equipment, especially for like your pre season tune up
• 1:06:13
  before you get in the woods and attempt to kill things with your
• 1:06:16
  bow. I have found that absolutely in
• 1:06:21
  howling archery. They're over in Glen Burnie.
• 1:06:24
  Anyone in the Maryland area especially, like Pasadena, Glen
• 1:06:28
  Burnie, anybody on the Fort Meade, If you're shooting bows,
• 1:06:33
  if you're shooting archery, if you're target shooting, if
• 1:06:35
  you're hunting, if you're just looking to get into something
• 1:06:38
  that requires all of your faculties to, I don't know, get
• 1:06:41
  away from something else more constructively than drinking
• 1:06:44
  about it. One, archery is a great way to
• 1:06:46
  do that, but two, if you're looking for somebody who's not
• 1:06:50
  out to swindle you and make a shit ton of money off of a new
• 1:06:54
  guy who doesn't fucking know any better, howling archery is the
• 1:06:58
  guy to go to. They're super easy to find.
• 1:07:02
  They've got a website, howlingarchery.com, they're all
• 1:07:04
  over Facebook and Instagram, and I will link all three of those
• 1:07:08
  things in the show notes. Please.
• 1:07:10
  If you're looking into getting into archery or if you're
• 1:07:13
  looking for a preseason tune up or you're looking to upgrade
• 1:07:16
  your current stuff from your 1990 PSE Nova to, I don't know,
• 1:07:23
  something like an Elite or a nicer bear, go check out Howling
• 1:07:29
  Archery. And now that I'm done with that,
• 1:07:34
  Gavin, you recently have gotten back into shooting archery.
• 1:07:41
  Tell us. About that, not really much to
• 1:07:46
  tell right now because both bow pretty much on the ass end of
• 1:07:50
  hunting season and haven't really been out hunting in
• 1:07:55
  years. But kind of like what Mike
• 1:08:00
  touched on, I was going through a really rough patch.
• 1:08:03
  Pretty much every aspect of my life got flipped like acid.
• 1:08:10
  So I was was kind of out of control there for a little bit,
• 1:08:14
  drinking pretty heavily and I was like, OK, I need something
• 1:08:20
  better to fill my time. And me and Mike have had to talk
• 1:08:23
  before, like how archery helped him a ton during some of his low
• 1:08:29
  points. So just on a whim I'm like fuck
• 1:08:33
  it. Didn't have any of the local
• 1:08:35
  archery shops around me or anything like that.
• 1:08:37
  So I drove out to Bass Pro, fucking by the bow, some arrows
• 1:08:41
  and target and set up in the backyard.
• 1:08:45
  Got target put up against side of the shed out there.
• 1:08:49
  And it was just kind of on a whim one day and I bought a bow,
• 1:08:55
  started slinging some arrows. And it's definitely helped a
• 1:09:00
  ton. Just whenever I'm fucking
• 1:09:03
  stressed out, they're kind of spiraling.
• 1:09:05
  Like having something like that that, you know, requires all of
• 1:09:09
  my focus, requires me to actually, you know, think and
• 1:09:13
  focus on something else. It's been a lot of fun.
• 1:09:19
  I mean, having to take time to actually get everything dialed
• 1:09:23
  in, trying to be consistent with my shots and timing and
• 1:09:27
  everything like that. Do I plan to use it for hunting
• 1:09:32
  at some point? Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:09:34
  I would love to get back into that.
• 1:09:38
  Is it going to be next year? I don't know.
• 1:09:40
  I've got some time to find a place to hunt.
• 1:09:45
  First off, that's not going to cost me a fucking arm and a leg.
• 1:09:48
  And actually, you know, I need to reach out to some of the guys
• 1:09:53
  I know here that I'm still in contact with and see if I can
• 1:09:55
  get set up with some people I know.
• 1:09:59
  But yeah, definitely want to get back into the hunting aspect of
• 1:10:04
  it and just take that time, you know?
• 1:10:10
  Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. Still.
• 1:10:14
  It's been 10 or 15 years since I've shot archery consistently
• 1:10:19
  and for hunting, so I'm sure there's a ton I need to get
• 1:10:23
  caught up on. And dialing some of my gear, but
• 1:10:27
  not. But for the most part, it's been
• 1:10:31
  a good outlet. What kind of board you get?
• 1:10:38
  I got the blackout intrigue. Intriguing.
• 1:10:44
  Thanks. That's.
• 1:10:47
  So. 70 LB pool, 2829 inch straw. It's it's pretty decent and it
• 1:10:56
  wasn't super expensive or anything like that.
• 1:10:59
  I think it was like $300 right around there.
• 1:11:03
  So All in all, I think I walked that Bass Pro at like 4 hundred
• 1:11:10
  $150.00 with, you know, arrows, release target, all that.
• 1:11:17
  So yeah, it definitely wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to
• 1:11:21
  be. What?
• 1:11:25
  What era rest did that bow come with?
• 1:11:32
  Is it a whisker biscuit or is it a drop away?
• 1:11:38
  That's a great question. It's been a couple of weeks
• 1:11:41
  since I've shot it now just completely fucking forgot.
• 1:11:45
  That's fair. That's super fair.
• 1:11:47
  And I I blindsided you with that question.
• 1:11:49
  I didn't prep you with that at all.
• 1:11:51
  I mean, it's right back there. I can go take a look but.
• 1:11:55
  Now pull it out dude. I actually kind of want to see
• 1:11:57
  it cuz I don't think I have. Probably going to be hard to try
• 1:12:01
  and get it in frame, but give me a second.
• 1:12:04
  That's fine. But yeah, Jimmy, how long have
• 1:12:12
  you been shooting archery? Like over the course of your
• 1:12:16
  life. So I used to shoot a bow in high
• 1:12:24
  school. Nothing crazy.
• 1:12:28
  I I would say maybe 1520 yards just slinging arrows in the
• 1:12:33
  backyard. OK, Whisker Biscuit.
• 1:12:40
  Yeah, OK. Yeah, you're rocking a whisker
• 1:12:42
  biscuit. Yeah.
• 1:12:43
  I thought that's what it was, I just don't want to be wrong when
• 1:12:46
  I said it so. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:48
  No, that's fair. How many pins are in your site?
• 1:12:52
  3, three. Yeah.
• 1:12:53
  OK. Yeah, it's not a bad looking
• 1:12:57
  bow. Yeah.
• 1:12:58
  Cool then. Yeah, pretty nice.
• 1:13:04
  I've had a lot of fun with it so.
• 1:13:06
  Hell yeah, man. It's got all the bells and
• 1:13:09
  whistles on it. Yeah, you got a stab.
• 1:13:11
  You get your string. Stop.
• 1:13:12
  You got your whisker biscuit at your sight.
• 1:13:15
  You've got your quiver locked on.
• 1:13:17
  Get a bunch of shit on your string.
• 1:13:19
  And the adjustable cams on it so I can do that at home, all
• 1:13:26
  those. Yeah, don't even need a bow
• 1:13:29
  press. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:13:32
  It's really nice. Setup especially for 300.
• 1:13:34
  Bucks yeah, yeah, I would I would highly recommend it.
• 1:13:38
  Thank buddies when the you know dip their toe into it and don't
• 1:13:42
  want spin. Normal leg.
• 1:13:45
  The great bow for the price. Yeah, so.
• 1:13:50
  Hell yeah, dude. Now I'm going to wait until he
• 1:13:54
  puts it away. Except Ian Harris still to ask
• 1:13:56
  him what arrows he's shooting. Pointy ones.
• 1:14:04
  So I would shoot like 1520 yards just in the backyard.
• 1:14:09
  Yeah, I was, I was really good shot.
• 1:14:11
  Like, I mean, I'm when it when it comes to like I'm pretty
• 1:14:15
  accurate with when I'm shooting, whether it's a gun or a bow.
• 1:14:19
  I've I've always been very good at that part of it.
• 1:14:22
  But we used to my buddy had a bow, my dad had a bow and I had
• 1:14:28
  never been hunting at that point, but I really just liked
• 1:14:32
  shooting. I just really enjoyed shooting
• 1:14:37
  the bow. And I had some old PSEI forget
• 1:14:41
  what it was called. Probably a Nova.
• 1:14:44
  I think it was a Nova. Everybody used to shoot a PSE
• 1:14:48
  Nova. But it was old man.
• 1:14:50
  It was like the they had they had like a wooden handle like it
• 1:14:55
  was it was older, but I but I had fun with it.
• 1:14:59
  I actually ruined the bow. I didn't really ruin it, but it
• 1:15:04
  wasn't worth, I, I wanted to turn it into a bow fishing rig,
• 1:15:09
  which OK, at the time, like you could Google things, but it
• 1:15:16
  wasn't like as easy to figure shit out online as it was it is
• 1:15:19
  nowadays. Like back when we were in high
• 1:15:22
  school. Like, I mean, it took some
• 1:15:23
  research, like if you really wanted to, especially like
• 1:15:26
  things like bow fishing and stuff.
• 1:15:28
  Like there wasn't a huge online presence at the time.
• 1:15:33
  So I didn't realize that I had to die all the, the, the weight
• 1:15:36
  of the bow all the way down. And I also had no money because
• 1:15:40
  I was in high school. So like I found a YouTube thing
• 1:15:44
  of like how to turn a Gatorade bottle into like a spool with a
• 1:15:47
  bolt in the washer and a locknet.
• 1:15:50
  And so I did that and I got some string and I got an arrow and I
• 1:15:56
  go to shoot the arrow and the string broke and I was like fuck
• 1:15:59
  this, this ain't going to work. So like I lost the arrow because
• 1:16:02
  the string broke, but so in order to do that though, I had
• 1:16:09
  to take a bunch of shit. Like I had to take the site off,
• 1:16:12
  I had to take the, I had to take a couple things off to make it
• 1:16:16
  work and it ended up not being worth putting it all back
• 1:16:21
  together. So I took a pretty big break
• 1:16:23
  from archery as a whole. And then I started hunting at
• 1:16:27
  the campground that I hung out and it was a misunderstanding.
• 1:16:32
  They told me everybody haunted with a crossbow and my buddy
• 1:16:38
  basically told me he's like, we prefer that you hunt with a
• 1:16:41
  crossbow. It's just more ethical.
• 1:16:44
  You get better. It's you get less, you're less
• 1:16:49
  likely to wound and you're more likely to kill and stuff like
• 1:16:53
  that. And I'm like, I don't buy into
• 1:16:55
  that at all. But it was just basically like
• 1:17:00
  when, when everybody started switching over to crossbows,
• 1:17:03
  they became more successful basically.
• 1:17:07
  And to me it wasn't really well, it's because they're using a
• 1:17:11
  crossbow. It's because one, most people
• 1:17:14
  don't practice. Most people will grab their bow
• 1:17:19
  and go out. Yeah, I shot it was sighted in
• 1:17:21
  last year. You know, they, they don't, they
• 1:17:24
  don't train with their anchor points.
• 1:17:26
  They don't train, you know, with, with, with keeping the bow
• 1:17:28
  steady and every keeping it level and your breathing and and
• 1:17:32
  every other factor that goes into shooting the bow.
• 1:17:37
  So I bought this stupid fucking crossbow about a bare intense
• 1:17:41
  400 feet per second crossbow and I haunted with it for one
• 1:17:45
  season. There was something wrong with
• 1:17:48
  the bow. I still don't know what's wrong
• 1:17:49
  with it. I basically I sighted it in it
• 1:17:53
  was money. I threw it in the car.
• 1:17:57
  I go to shoot it two weeks later with my cousin and all of a
• 1:18:01
  sudden it was an inch low and and it was it was an inch to the
• 1:18:06
  right and three inches low at 20 yards.
• 1:18:10
  And no matter how much I adjusted the site at my final
• 1:18:15
  adjustment of the scope until it was bottomed out, I was 3 inches
• 1:18:20
  low and an inch to the right. So it was way worse before, but
• 1:18:24
  I was bottomed down in the scope.
• 1:18:25
  So I was like, all right, I need a new scope.
• 1:18:27
  So my buddy gives my cousin gives me his scope.
• 1:18:31
  I throw that scope on, same fucking thing.
• 1:18:33
  It's bottomed out. I'm an inch low, 3 or I'm 3
• 1:18:37
  inches low and an inch to the right.
• 1:18:39
  So then I go to an archery shop. They can't figure out what's
• 1:18:44
  wrong with it. So I go to another archery shop
• 1:18:46
  and he's like, well, let's try putting a new scope on it.
• 1:18:50
  So we get this new scope on it. It's not even a new scope.
• 1:18:53
  It was an old scope. It was a Parker scope.
• 1:18:56
  It wasn't it was like new, but not new.
• 1:18:58
  It was an older model that has never been touched because it
• 1:19:01
  was an older archery shop throws it on there.
• 1:19:05
  We get it dialed in the thing's money again.
• 1:19:07
  And then he goes hang on. I want to just mess with one
• 1:19:09
  more thing. He takes the scope off and then
• 1:19:13
  messes with one more thing and puts the scope on.
• 1:19:16
  And by by this time I had been there for a few hours.
• 1:19:18
  I was like, all right, well, I appreciate your time.
• 1:19:20
  I'm not going to, I'm not going to mess with it anymore.
• 1:19:23
  You know, we got it. I'm I'm sure it's good.
• 1:19:26
  And I get to deer camp with it and I shoot and I'm way off and
• 1:19:34
  I go, what the fuck is going on? So I look at my scope and he
• 1:19:37
  didn't mount it back on the crossbow correctly and I'm
• 1:19:41
  looking at it and there is no possible way because he didn't
• 1:19:46
  mess with the where he had the the rings.
• 1:19:54
  He didn't mess with that when he took the scope off.
• 1:19:56
  And I realized that not only did he not have it on right, there
• 1:20:01
  was no way he could have gotten it on at any point correctly.
• 1:20:06
  So when we had it dialed in and on and on the money, it wasn't
• 1:20:10
  on correctly. It did not go into the notches
• 1:20:13
  at all, no matter where I put it on my rail.
• 1:20:16
  I'm like, what the fuck? So I, I, I quit fucking around
• 1:20:19
  with this stupid crossbow. And then my buddy's uncle's
• 1:20:22
  like, why don't you just shoot a normal bow if you don't want to
• 1:20:24
  use a crossbow? And I was like, I'm allowed to
• 1:20:26
  do that. He's like, yeah, you're never
• 1:20:29
  not allowed to use a compo. And I look at my buddy, I go,
• 1:20:31
  you motherfucker. And so I went and immediately I
• 1:20:36
  was, I went and bought a Hoyt. So I got right back into it and
• 1:20:40
  it was the greatest thing because like you said, I was
• 1:20:42
  going through a divorce. That was ultimately why I really
• 1:20:46
  wanted to get a bow was because I was going through a divorce.
• 1:20:48
  I knew I listened to Joe Rogan and Cam Haines and you know all
• 1:20:53
  them and they all say the same shit that it's great therapy.
• 1:20:56
  Steven Rinella, they all talk about how it's great therapy.
• 1:20:59
  So I was like, I need to get a bow to keep my head clear so I
• 1:21:02
  can get through this divorce and not worry about everything and
• 1:21:05
  just think straight. So I went and I bought a, a Hoyt
• 1:21:09
  Torex Cam Haines edition. So it's all black, It's blacked
• 1:21:13
  out with red strings. And then one of the first things
• 1:21:19
  I did is I took the I took those this site off because it was a
• 1:21:25
  four pin site and I swapped that out for a, a, a Tetra Max single
• 1:21:33
  pin and I got a GoPro mount so I can mount my GoPro on to it.
• 1:21:40
  Frigging I love, I love my bow, dude.
• 1:21:42
  I love shooting bows. So much fun.
• 1:21:46
  Yeah, I put AI, put a GoPro mount on my bow tech realm and
• 1:21:54
  I'm like, well, this let me replay my shot like damn near
• 1:21:56
  real time to, you know, see how how good or not good I hit the
• 1:22:00
  deer to let me know what kind of tracking I need to do, how long
• 1:22:03
  I need to back out for. That only works if you have
• 1:22:09
  Luminox or some sort of lighted knock on your arrow.
• 1:22:14
  Now, I did have lighted knocks on my arrow, except the lighted
• 1:22:19
  knock on the arrow that I shot at that deer was dead, so it
• 1:22:25
  didn't fucking matter. So I'm sitting there in the
• 1:22:27
  stand replaying the GoPro footage on my phone, going, all
• 1:22:31
  right, where did I hit this deer?
• 1:22:34
  And I'm like, oh, that's good. Well, I have no fucking idea.
• 1:22:37
  So I had to do it the old school way and get down and look right
• 1:22:41
  around where I think the deer was at from where I remember it
• 1:22:44
  standing and go, all right, I don't see any blood, but I also
• 1:22:49
  don't see my fucking arrow, so that's not good.
• 1:22:54
  And then you go on like a 45 minute quarter mile track of
• 1:22:57
  where the deer went off to in the general direction looking
• 1:23:00
  for any sort of blood. And you're like, well, OK,
• 1:23:03
  there's nothing, but I still don't have my arrow, but I have
• 1:23:06
  no blood. So I probably fucking missed and
• 1:23:08
  buried that shit in the dirt. It's probably fine.
• 1:23:13
  And then you spend another hour making sure that you're
• 1:23:16
  comfortable with the fact that you very likely missed that
• 1:23:20
  deer, and you can back out and not continue trying to look for
• 1:23:25
  it. And basically go to sleep that
• 1:23:27
  night knowing that you didn't wound a fucking animal that's
• 1:23:30
  out there dying somewhere in the woods.
• 1:23:32
  And that you did in fact very likely just straight up fucking
• 1:23:35
  miss because you're an absolute goober.
• 1:23:40
  Ask me how I know. If it makes you feel any better,
• 1:23:45
  having a lighted knot doesn't help with that either.
• 1:23:49
  I just found that a GoPro is just not a good setup to have on
• 1:23:54
  a bow and I found that out the hard way.
• 1:23:59
  You know, I used to be part of another podcast and one of my
• 1:24:05
  challenges that I set in front of the audience was that I was
• 1:24:08
  going to have, I was going to get because it was my first year
• 1:24:11
  with the Hoyt. And I told the audience I was
• 1:24:14
  like, I'm going to get a kill with my bow and I'm going to get
• 1:24:18
  it on film. And I was super proud of the
• 1:24:21
  shot that I took. I took a shot at 58 yards and I
• 1:24:25
  smoked an 8 point buck in the heart.
• 1:24:28
  To him. And God, you fucking, I filmed
• 1:24:33
  it. You don't see what I'm shooting
• 1:24:36
  at. You don't see the deer.
• 1:24:39
  You don't see you don't you see the arrow trying to go in the
• 1:24:42
  direction but you can't see with so far away.
• 1:24:45
  You can't see what I'm shooting at.
• 1:24:47
  Like you don't see the deer at all.
• 1:24:50
  You don't see the deer run. You can hear the deer run off,
• 1:24:52
  but that's it. You don't see nothing.
• 1:24:54
  It's like, what the fuck did he even shoot at?
• 1:24:55
  You just sent 1, you know. Well I mean, you're the one out
• 1:24:59
  there taking fucking Olympic long range shots at deer archery
• 1:25:03
  season, Jimmy. 58 yards. God damn bro.
• 1:25:08
  And it was like wish to be that good.
• 1:25:11
  It was well I'm not that good. That's the thing.
• 1:25:15
  I just when I something weird happens when I go to take a
• 1:25:20
  shot. I've noticed if I anytime I've
• 1:25:25
  had a bad shot, I can tell you what happened.
• 1:25:29
  Like I remember the shot. Any time I have a good shot, I
• 1:25:34
  can't tell you what happened because I don't remember what
• 1:25:37
  happened. Like it's and that was one of
• 1:25:40
  those things where I don't remember shooting like because
• 1:25:45
  something kicks and I just do what I need to do and it goes
• 1:25:49
  where I need it to go. If I can remember what happened
• 1:25:52
  when I pulled the trigger or hit the release, it's not a good
• 1:25:55
  shot and I'm not really sure why it's like that.
• 1:25:59
  But it was just everything lined up perfectly and I like honestly
• 1:26:05
  my pin didn't even have an adjustment for 58 yards.
• 1:26:10
  So I don't know how much I compensated or any of that.
• 1:26:14
  I just know that when I let that, when I let the arrow go, I
• 1:26:20
  immediately got down because not to go track the deer, but to go
• 1:26:25
  find where my arrow's AT. And I seen my arrow sticking in
• 1:26:29
  the dirt, broken in, half caked with blood.
• 1:26:34
  And I was like, yes. So I turn around, I go right
• 1:26:38
  back to my tree stand and I sit for about an hour.
• 1:26:41
  And then it wasn't a super long track.
• 1:26:44
  He maybe ran. He ran down into the bowl that I
• 1:26:46
  was telling you about on the last episode.
• 1:26:49
  Where you saw Sasquatch? On on the other side of the
• 1:26:52
  bowl, I saw something yes, and I want to I want to kind of
• 1:26:58
  because I, I realized something that I had said when I seen
• 1:27:03
  this, it was more of a peripheral thing that I saw.
• 1:27:06
  It wasn't AI definitely clear as they saw what it was.
• 1:27:09
  It was more of a peripheral thing.
• 1:27:11
  And by the time I looked it, I saw a very faint glimpse of what
• 1:27:16
  looked like a running person who was hauling ass, but I'm not
• 1:27:19
  100% sure. I for sure saw something move.
• 1:27:22
  I heard it move. It was it was booking it.
• 1:27:24
  But anyway, the heart, the, the deer was laying down at the
• 1:27:28
  bottom of that bowl and just a gnarly cut.
• 1:27:34
  And I, I, I bought cut his heart in half with that with that I
• 1:27:37
  was using mega meats is what I was using, which I I highly
• 1:27:44
  recommend the Mega meats man for hunting.
• 1:27:49
  So there are so many points to make that get into the whole
• 1:27:54
  crossbow versus compound fucking argument that I think we need a
• 1:27:58
  table for a later episode. There's other things I
• 1:28:01
  definitely want to get into, but what I will say on that is I
• 1:28:07
  guess a teaser is I've haunted with both crossbows and
• 1:28:12
  compounds. I've killed deer with both
• 1:28:14
  crossbows and compounds. My opinion on the matter is that
• 1:28:21
  it takes so much more practice and dedication to the art of
• 1:28:26
  archery to effectively harvest an animal with a compound bow
• 1:28:32
  than it does with a crossbow. And I think that that kind of
• 1:28:37
  pulls the curtain back on on how I personally feel about hunting.
• 1:28:44
  Like if I'm going to go out there in pursuit, in pursuit of
• 1:28:49
  a critter, I don't care what it is.
• 1:28:51
  I want to know that what I am taking out there is the most
• 1:28:55
  effective, most efficient tool to conduct that task.
• 1:29:00
  And for me right now, like it doesn't matter if it's a
• 1:29:03
  crossbow or a compound bow or a gun, for that matter.
• 1:29:07
  Like I'm, I'm confident with any of those platforms that I can
• 1:29:10
  put a shot on target and harvest that that critter that I am
• 1:29:13
  attempting to harvest, right? But there's so much more that
• 1:29:17
  goes into the art of being efficient with my compound bow
• 1:29:24
  than there does with my crossbow or any of the rifles or shotguns
• 1:29:28
  that I have. And that's something that I
• 1:29:30
  deeply appreciate about shooting compound bows is the amount of
• 1:29:33
  time that I have to put into the offseason and how much work goes
• 1:29:37
  into building the confidence in my equipment to go out and
• 1:29:41
  attempt to get after a critter. It's like the last thing I want
• 1:29:46
  to do is have a bad shot and wound an animal that I'm going
• 1:29:48
  to see on trail Cam the next week, right?
• 1:29:52
  I don't want to, I don't want to cause an animal a fucking slow,
• 1:29:55
  painful death. If I'm going out there to
• 1:29:58
  harvest an animal, I want to know that I'm going to make the
• 1:30:00
  best shot possible and have the most efficient, most effective,
• 1:30:05
  most ethical kill that I possibly could.
• 1:30:10
  And like time now, if it's archery season, that's with my
• 1:30:14
  compound because that is what I practice with.
• 1:30:17
  That is what I train with. That is what I go and do all of
• 1:30:20
  my offseason prep with. That is the platform that I am
• 1:30:24
  the most competent with. And I think part of that is that
• 1:30:29
  it takes very little skill and very little practice to put a
• 1:30:32
  reticle on a deer's vital with a crossbow.
• 1:30:37
  So I'm, I'm way more into it for the art of archery and that,
• 1:30:44
  that hunting mentality than I am for filling the freezer or going
• 1:30:50
  out there to, to shoot a deer or shoot a big buck, right?
• 1:30:54
  Like I, I'm way more enticed by having to pattern these critters
• 1:30:58
  and figure out that, hey, I need to be no further than 35 yards
• 1:31:02
  for where they're going to be traveling through.
• 1:31:04
  So I've got to know where they're going to be.
• 1:31:05
  I've got to understand what their travel patterns are, where
• 1:31:08
  the corridors are and what trees that I can set up in or where I
• 1:31:11
  can put a ground blind that's not going to absolutely fuck
• 1:31:14
  what they're doing and where they're doing it.
• 1:31:17
  Like putting that puzzle together.
• 1:31:19
  That's the part that really hooks me on hunting with my
• 1:31:23
  compound bow. There is nothing more humbling
• 1:31:34
  than that first shot after taking a break because I don't
• 1:31:39
  know, like I. Yeah.
• 1:31:42
  I'm a high confidence individual.
• 1:31:44
  I will definitely say that Maddie will be the first to tell
• 1:31:47
  you that. She makes fun of my ego all the
• 1:31:49
  goddamn time. And every year I cannot wait to
• 1:31:57
  get my bow out. I go and I set the target up.
• 1:32:01
  I set it up at 20 yards. It's always where I start.
• 1:32:04
  And I just, you know, I'm like, I'm Hawkeye.
• 1:32:06
  I'm about to start zipping, about to start zipping them into
• 1:32:10
  the bullseye, man. And then I let that first arrow
• 1:32:12
  fly and I go, fuck, something's wrong.
• 1:32:17
  God damn it. I hope it's not the bow, you
• 1:32:20
  know? And then fucking let the second
• 1:32:23
  arrow, all right, Now I'm in the other direction, not the bow.
• 1:32:27
  It's me. What am I doing?
• 1:32:29
  And then you take that third shot and you're like, you're
• 1:32:32
  fucking around with your nose and you're fucking around with
• 1:32:34
  everything else. You're like, all right, I got my
• 1:32:35
  kisser in the right spot. You know, I, oh, that's right.
• 1:32:39
  I need to have it at the tip of my nose and I need to have the
• 1:32:43
  kisser here and the string touching my nose and pushing it
• 1:32:46
  this way. And there we go.
• 1:32:47
  Now I'm in where I need to be, you know, remembering your
• 1:32:50
  anchor points. But man, there's nothing more
• 1:32:52
  humbling than getting back out there and shooting your ball for
• 1:32:55
  the first time in the year practicing.
• 1:32:58
  So like I, I miss it, man. I can't wait to, I can't wait
• 1:33:02
  to. I did not shoot my ball enough
• 1:33:05
  last year and thank God I didn't see anything walk out in front
• 1:33:09
  of me during archery season. Like I, I was OK shooting wise,
• 1:33:14
  but I really dropped the ball last year.
• 1:33:17
  I did not shoot enough. I did not shoot as much as I
• 1:33:20
  wanted to. I really wish that I could go
• 1:33:23
  and I wish there was like a 3D archery thing near me that I can
• 1:33:28
  go do because that, that's so much fun.
• 1:33:30
  Love that. Yeah, which brings me to my
• 1:33:35
  question and really unfortunately primarily for me
• 1:33:40
  and Jimmy. So, Gavin.
• 1:33:42
  Yeah sorry bro, I don't have much experience in this area so
• 1:33:46
  I'll get there one day. Jimmy, Jimmy, how do you prep
• 1:33:50
  for archery season well? I had to buy new arrows because
• 1:34:00
  I lost a few last year. Not last year or the year
• 1:34:04
  before. Like I broke one on the buck, I
• 1:34:07
  sent one, I sent some, I sent one at something I missed, and
• 1:34:18
  God fucking arrows are expensive dude.
• 1:34:21
  It's like. Yeah, they are.
• 1:34:23
  How much are your arrows, Mike? My arrows, yeah.
• 1:34:28
  So I am shooting carbon express, carbon express pile drivers and
• 1:34:39
  I'm looking those up right now shopping.
• 1:34:51
  Maybe I'm shooting the destroyer pile drivers.
• 1:34:54
  Either way, they're like 80 ish dollars for a dozen.
• 1:35:00
  But my old neighbor before I moved out to Frederick, he is a
• 1:35:07
  super nerd about archery to the point where he's got right, he's
• 1:35:12
  got his bow press, he's got a paper tuning rig, He's got
• 1:35:14
  basically a whole archery shop set up in his garage.
• 1:35:18
  And that's where I would go to like do a lot of my last minute
• 1:35:22
  tuning or if I got a dozen arrows that I wanted to work on.
• 1:35:27
  Because like the other part of it for me is like, I like
• 1:35:33
  knowing that I put work and sweat equity into what I'm
• 1:35:37
  doing. And it's more to the mentality
• 1:35:39
  of like this takes all of my faculties.
• 1:35:41
  So like if I'm fleshing arrows like I God bless you.
• 1:35:47
  Thanks. I shouldn't.
• 1:35:50
  No, I didn't hear the second one.
• 1:35:52
  Not that one. I I should not fuck up fleshing
• 1:35:56
  my arrows because my arrow fletchings dictate my flight
• 1:35:59
  path and if I fuck that up then I'm not going to be effective
• 1:36:04
  and efficient and ethical in the woods.
• 1:36:07
  But I also like to nerd out on the math of like what my GPI is,
• 1:36:12
  what my FOC is, so my grains per inch on a shaft, and what my
• 1:36:16
  forward of center percentage is, which effectively equates to
• 1:36:20
  kinetic target or kinetic energy on target, right?
• 1:36:24
  So the shafts that I'm currently hunting with, like I they're
• 1:36:30
  probably, they're not probably, they're definitely overkill for
• 1:36:35
  whitetail, but they're not quite like going out West to to hunt
• 1:36:40
  elk. But yeah, I'm, I'm spending
• 1:36:45
  roughly 80 dollars, $80.00 for a dozen, I think maybe a half
• 1:36:52
  dozen. I think a dozen.
• 1:36:53
  But I'll get bare shaft arrows and then I'll go and build out
• 1:36:57
  my, my shafts to what I want them to be.
• 1:37:00
  And that also gives me the ability to put each specific
• 1:37:03
  arrow on the scale and then put my like put my inserts on the
• 1:37:07
  scale and put my fletches on the scale and roughly have the math
• 1:37:11
  for how much glue I'm putting on.
• 1:37:12
  And then my field tips versus my prod points.
• 1:37:15
  Everything's on the scale. So I can match every arrow as
• 1:37:19
  close as humanly possible to, you know, whatever grain weight
• 1:37:24
  for the entire built shaft that I'm going to go hunt with.
• 1:37:34
  So with that being said, Jimmy, pick some, pick an arrow that
• 1:37:37
  you want, buy them, have them shipped to my neighbor and he
• 1:37:41
  will build them out for you with whatever fletch colors you want,
• 1:37:45
  fletched however you want, and he'll send them back to you.
• 1:37:52
  And I think you're muted. Yeah, you're muted.
• 1:37:59
  There you go. Yeah, I remember we were talking
• 1:38:01
  to him before. I don't see, I don't know how to
• 1:38:06
  get like he needed data that I didn't know how to get was the
• 1:38:09
  problem. What was he asking?
• 1:38:11
  Do you remember what he was asking for?
• 1:38:14
  Feet per second. I forget.
• 1:38:23
  I forget when, what, what it all was.
• 1:38:25
  So I mean realistically and dumbing it, dumbing it way the
• 1:38:29
  fuck down. If I'm going to build arrows for
• 1:38:31
  someone, I need to know what your what your draw length is.
• 1:38:38
  That tells me what I need to cut those arrows at.
• 1:38:41
  And whether you want them to go fast or you want them to hit
• 1:38:44
  hard, or you want some happy medium in between the two,
• 1:38:49
  because that dictates what inserts I'm putting in.
• 1:38:53
  And that dictates like the tuning of the shaft itself,
• 1:38:57
  which really, if you're not there, I, I can't effectively
• 1:39:01
  tune those arrows because in order to throw something through
• 1:39:03
  a paper tuning rig, I need you and your bow.
• 1:39:06
  You really need to be the one that's shooting because you're
• 1:39:08
  going to shoot how you shoot and I'm not going to shoot how you
• 1:39:11
  shoot, right? Yeah, it's different.
• 1:39:14
  Yeah, I had a paper tuning miss out, which ended up being
• 1:39:18
  hilarious. So I shoot the Black Eagle
• 1:39:23
  Rampage. So mine are about the same price
• 1:39:27
  point. Might have mine.
• 1:39:28
  I think it was like $90.00 for six of them, might have been
• 1:39:32
  8080 for six of them. I'm looking online right now and
• 1:39:36
  I see $160.00 for 12 and that's just bare shaft.
• 1:39:44
  So I definitely, so I took my bow to a pretty well respected
• 1:39:53
  archery shop in Michigan. And the bow tacks were my buddy
• 1:40:02
  went with me and he had a bow and they sighted, they paper
• 1:40:06
  tuned him. They had him perfectly paper
• 1:40:07
  tuned after one adjustment. And so like they had me come to
• 1:40:12
  the paper and I shoot and he goes, all right, no problem,
• 1:40:15
  it's your bow. And he makes an adjustment and I
• 1:40:20
  go to shoot and he goes. I don't know why it did that.
• 1:40:24
  All right, let me see it again. And then so I've shooted again
• 1:40:30
  and then he gives it a head tilt and he goes, let me see it
• 1:40:34
  again. And so he makes another
• 1:40:36
  adjustment and I shoot and he's like one second he goes and he
• 1:40:41
  grabs another bow tuck and to save, to save the listeners from
• 1:40:47
  listening to a lengthy story, it took about four bow techs
• 1:40:51
  circled around my bow trying to figure out what the fuck was
• 1:40:53
  going on. They sold me new like a new
• 1:40:56
  rest, like a new drop away and everything.
• 1:40:58
  They're like, something's wrong. We don't know what it is.
• 1:41:00
  We don't know why it's doing this, blah, blah, blah, you need
• 1:41:03
  to drop away. And then finally the the guy,
• 1:41:06
  he's like, maybe it's true. Oh, it was your arrows.
• 1:41:09
  Maybe it's the arrows that you're shooting with because my
• 1:41:11
  buddy Mike sent me this 12 pack of cheap ass arrows that
• 1:41:14
  nobody's ever heard of, which, spoiler alert, it wasn't the
• 1:41:18
  fucking arrows, right? But that's what we thought it
• 1:41:23
  was. And finally this this guy who
• 1:41:30
  works there goes to his car and he was like, all right, me and
• 1:41:32
  you were the same draw length. He's like, I'm going to go get
• 1:41:35
  one of my arrows and we're going to send it through the paper.
• 1:41:39
  And so he he gets one of his arrows and I shoot it and it's
• 1:41:45
  perfect, the perfect cross shape into the paper.
• 1:41:49
  And I was I look at him, I was like, you know what?
• 1:41:53
  I've already bought a drop away rest.
• 1:41:56
  We've been here for hours and multiple people are stressing on
• 1:42:00
  this bow hunting season is coming up.
• 1:42:02
  I want cut carbon copies of your arrow to AT exactly what you
• 1:42:09
  got. And that was these rampages and
• 1:42:16
  ended up doing the same shit with the new arrows.
• 1:42:20
  And so like I'm telling my buddy this and I I well, I wouldn't
• 1:42:23
  call him a buddy. It was somebody that I worked
• 1:42:25
  with and this buddy was into archery and he was a good dude,
• 1:42:34
  but he was a know it all and it was very annoying because
• 1:42:38
  anything that you did, he did it better.
• 1:42:40
  He knew how to do it. He knew what you were talking
• 1:42:42
  about. He knew more about it than you
• 1:42:43
  did. It didn't matter.
• 1:42:45
  I used to fucking make shit up just to see how much he knew
• 1:42:49
  about this topic. Like fucking this guy was like
• 1:42:53
  fucking a master angler, fisherman, fucking great smoker,
• 1:42:57
  a fucking welder, like, you name it.
• 1:42:59
  Fucking I was like making shit up.
• 1:43:01
  Oh, you know, I used to do this. Yeah, I used to do beekeeping.
• 1:43:04
  I was a beekeeper, bro. I fucking love beekeeping.
• 1:43:06
  Yeah, I was a beekeeper too, you know, like, anyway, so like,
• 1:43:10
  he's like, come over, I can fix your bow and I'm thinking I'm
• 1:43:15
  not letting you touch my fucking bow.
• 1:43:17
  I didn't say that, though. I was like, I'm not, you know?
• 1:43:21
  And he's like just beats get your fucking.
• 1:43:24
  I was out of my legs, you asshole Jesus.
• 1:43:27
  Christ. Anyway, he's like, bring your
• 1:43:30
  bow by. He's like, I can fix it.
• 1:43:32
  I know I can. And so I was like, all right,
• 1:43:36
  I'll come by. And he lives in a trailer park.
• 1:43:40
  Not that there's anything wrong with that.
• 1:43:42
  I live in a trailer park, but it was a rundown trailer park,
• 1:43:46
  right? And I'm just trying to set the
• 1:43:49
  scene for you. And I walked back there and he's
• 1:43:53
  got a paper tune set up already ready to go.
• 1:43:57
  And I was like, OK, this is a little bit more legit than I was
• 1:44:00
  expecting it to be. It took it took me by surprise.
• 1:44:06
  And so like, I kind of like let my guard down a little bit.
• 1:44:09
  Like I was pretty guarded at 1st.
• 1:44:11
  And he's looking at me, He's looking at my bow.
• 1:44:15
  I haven't shot or drawn or anything.
• 1:44:18
  He's like, I know what it is. And also, it's worth mentioning
• 1:44:23
  that he's blind in one eye, too, which was another reason why I
• 1:44:26
  didn't want him to fuck with my shit.
• 1:44:28
  And he's like, close your eyes and draw your bow.
• 1:44:31
  I was like, OK, so I close my eyes and I draw my blow.
• 1:44:37
  He's like, open your eyes. He's like, oh, well, first he's
• 1:44:41
  like, you're anchored, right? And I was like, yeah, he's like,
• 1:44:43
  you're sure. I'm like, yeah.
• 1:44:45
  He's like, open your eyes. I open my eyes.
• 1:44:49
  I can't see through my feet and he's like, can you see through
• 1:44:53
  your peep? And I'm like, no, he goes,
• 1:44:57
  that's your issue. He's like, you took it to that
• 1:44:59
  archery shop. You had four techs working on
• 1:45:02
  your bow and none of them fucking even look to make sure
• 1:45:04
  that you were looking through your peep when you were
• 1:45:06
  anchored. He's like, So what did you have
• 1:45:09
  to do to see through your peep in the 1st place?
• 1:45:12
  That's exactly what it is. Let's adjust your peep.
• 1:45:16
  And so he, he adjusts the peep as I'm drawing back.
• 1:45:19
  He's like, you can see it now, right?
• 1:45:20
  And I was like, yeah. And he's like, let the arrow go.
• 1:45:22
  And I let the arrow go And he's like, OK, it was a better
• 1:45:26
  pattern than I had seen so far. And he's like, let me see your
• 1:45:30
  bow. And I, So I handed my bow.
• 1:45:31
  He makes 1 adjustment. He's like, draw it back, let the
• 1:45:34
  arrow go perfect freaking cross into the paper.
• 1:45:37
  I'm like, God damn it, the dude at work got it in one
• 1:45:41
  adjustment. And I and I doubted him, you
• 1:45:44
  know, so it wasn't, it wasn't your arrows.
• 1:45:48
  So now I still have those arrows.
• 1:45:52
  I'm curious to see what happens if I just put a broad head on
• 1:45:56
  there and go to paper, tune it and see what happens.
• 1:45:59
  I, I was about to say, and I'm glad that you finished that
• 1:46:02
  thought before I started talking, but I was about to say,
• 1:46:04
  remember that technically, if you're, if you're doing it super
• 1:46:08
  right, you should go back to paper tuning when you move to
• 1:46:11
  your broad heads. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:46:19
  But unfortunately with you don't really want to paper tune it
• 1:46:25
  with mega meets because yeah, what are you going to set that
• 1:46:30
  off into? And then they have a practice
• 1:46:35
  tip, but the practice tip sucks and you send it into a bag.
• 1:46:43
  You're not getting that tip back you.
• 1:46:47
  Got to push it all the way through and then you're losing
• 1:46:49
  fletchings. You're either losing fletchings
• 1:46:51
  or you're losing the freaking whole insert.
• 1:46:54
  It's it's not good. So you kind of just got to get
• 1:46:58
  it with with the mega meets anyway.
• 1:47:00
  You kind of just use a field tip paper, tune it and just pray,
• 1:47:05
  you know. All right, So one thing that I
• 1:47:08
  think is interesting, which is different than what I do for my
• 1:47:11
  season prep. It doesn't matter if it's like
• 1:47:15
  I've been shooting regularly or if it's the first time after,
• 1:47:18
  you know, the the late winter, early spring break where I'm
• 1:47:22
  picking my bow back up. I do not start at 20 yards.
• 1:47:29
  My first shot out of my bow will be at generally 50, whatever my
• 1:47:35
  farthest pin is that I have set. And the reason being like I've
• 1:47:41
  been shooting archery for so I had a 10 year hiatus in this,
• 1:47:50
  this most recent stretch. I think it's been 6-7 years,
• 1:47:56
  maybe 8 years. I think this year will be 8
• 1:47:58
  years that I've been shooting archery again.
• 1:48:03
  But if I'm doing something dumb, if I'm fucking up my anchor
• 1:48:06
  points, or if I'm, you know, I'm doing something just wildly out
• 1:48:10
  of whack because I either forgot it or I haven't shot enough to
• 1:48:13
  remember it yet or like I'm just, I'm rusty.
• 1:48:17
  I found that I generally won't see that indicated at 20 yards,
• 1:48:24
  but I will definitely see it at 50.
• 1:48:27
  So getting back into it, my first shot is always right
• 1:48:30
  around that 50 yard mark because that is the most diagnostic
• 1:48:35
  range because it's the longest range that I have a, a pen set
• 1:48:39
  for to tell me how I'm fucking up.
• 1:48:43
  And for me, it gives me a jump start on getting back into it.
• 1:48:47
  So I'll, I'll roll up at 50 and I'm like, all right, let's check
• 1:48:50
  50. Let's see what I'm doing dumb.
• 1:48:52
  Let's fix it right off the RIP. Let's get back into it.
• 1:48:56
  And like I'm either way right or way left or way up or way down.
• 1:48:59
  And it's like, OK, if I'm left or right, that tells me that my,
• 1:49:03
  my front hand is the problem. If I'm up or down, well then I'm
• 1:49:06
  not hitting my anchor points right, or I'm bending at the
• 1:49:09
  shoulders instead of the waist or there's any number of things
• 1:49:11
  that can form an up and down issue.
• 1:49:13
  Or it's just, you know, I need to make an adjustment.
• 1:49:18
  But I'll start at 50 and then I'll go check the rest of my
• 1:49:20
  pens. So I've got pen set for 203040
• 1:49:25
  50 and I think, I think I have a 60 yard pin, but that's just for
• 1:49:29
  fucking around at the range and and showing off.
• 1:49:35
  But I'll, I'll cite everything and give my bow the once over
• 1:49:38
  and make sure that, you know, my string and cable are waxed.
• 1:49:41
  And then I roll pretty much immediately into my my 3D
• 1:49:45
  archery season. And thankfully being plugged in
• 1:49:49
  with, with howling archery and the guys that I shoot with like
• 1:49:54
  damn near every weekend there is a 3D shoot somewhere.
• 1:50:00
  And I'm a, I'm a firm believer that competition breeds
• 1:50:06
  excellence. So if you've got a core group of
• 1:50:09
  dudes that you're shooting with, like, fuck, make it a
• 1:50:10
  competition, Make it a dollar, a target point or, you know,
• 1:50:13
  whoever the loser is buys $1.00 coffees for the rest of the guys
• 1:50:18
  or they've got the dollar 50 hot dogs at the end of the shoot for
• 1:50:21
  the fundraiser or whoever's putting on the shoot, right?
• 1:50:25
  But there's always some sort of like low threat, low stakes bet
• 1:50:29
  that's going on while we're shooting 3DS.
• 1:50:32
  And that's become a huge part of my pre season prep.
• 1:50:38
  With that said, like a lot of the guys who shoot 3DS and a lot
• 1:50:42
  of the guys who shoot 3DS for competition.
• 1:50:44
  So like the guys who shoot TAC or IBO, like you're shooting for
• 1:50:54
  the scoring rings. And there's a whole different
• 1:50:57
  methodology of scoring for 3DS, right?
• 1:51:01
  And wherever the ring is printed on the target is not necessarily
• 1:51:04
  where the hunter is looking to put an arrow on target, right
• 1:51:08
  when you're in the woods. So it's kind of a weird mix of
• 1:51:13
  like, OK, are we shooting for the X ring on this one or the 10
• 1:51:17
  ring, depending on the manufacturer or the target?
• 1:51:20
  Or are we shooting for the most ethical shot in the woods?
• 1:51:25
  So each target point almost has a an added flavor of like, all
• 1:51:29
  right, how are we shooting this? Which forces you to transition
• 1:51:33
  from, OK, am I shooting for where I think I see the rings
• 1:51:36
  getting smaller? Or am I shooting as if I'm
• 1:51:38
  sitting in a tree standard ground blind, attempting to
• 1:51:41
  harvest whatever animal this is. And on top of that, like it's
• 1:51:45
  always fun to walk out one of the one of the shoots that we go
• 1:51:48
  to pretty regularly. They have a full scale bison
• 1:51:52
  target. Like that is always a fun target
• 1:51:56
  to shoot because like, I'm never going to go hunt a bison, but I
• 1:52:00
  dream, pretend that's my dream. Hunt.
• 1:52:03
  Like I can pretend that I'm shooting a Bison at 35 yards.
• 1:52:08
  I'm never going to do that for real because I don't think I
• 1:52:10
  want to be 35 yards from a fucking Bison.
• 1:52:14
  But like, it's, it's just cool, right?
• 1:52:20
  So a lot of my, a lot of my early season prep is looking
• 1:52:23
  over my equipment, doing my, my gear familiarity again, and then
• 1:52:28
  shooting a distance, checking my pins and then getting right into
• 1:52:31
  the 3D shoots. And I, I will count myself lucky
• 1:52:35
  based on what you said, Jimmy, that we have no shortage of 3D
• 1:52:40
  shoots in Maryland where I am. So that's been a super nice
• 1:52:45
  thing. But I will say, if you're
• 1:52:47
  looking to do more 3D shoots, dude, get a hold of Zach.
• 1:52:53
  That goes so far away from me though dude.
• 1:52:55
  I know, but he hit me up about doing tack this year in Michigan
• 1:53:01
  and I don't think I'm going to be able to make it.
• 1:53:03
  But dude, get a hold of him, see if he's still got a spot open
• 1:53:07
  for the group he's going to tack with.
• 1:53:08
  Yeah, because that would be a fucking kick ass time.
• 1:53:13
  Yeah, but funny story, I've done one IBO qualifier shoot and I
• 1:53:22
  didn't, I didn't pay the extra 5 bucks to have my scorecard like
• 1:53:26
  counted for a qualifier, just the course was a qualifier
• 1:53:30
  shoot. But one of the other guys in our
• 1:53:32
  group did. And I shot better than he did
• 1:53:36
  that day, not by much, but a couple points.
• 1:53:39
  But he qualified for the IBO shoot like the next level of it.
• 1:53:48
  And I was shooting with Ridley and an Osprey backpack that day,
• 1:53:53
  so I outshot him. And actually, you know what?
• 1:53:56
  I I can fucking prove it too. Where the, come on technical
• 1:54:05
  difficulties pictures. Where did these fucking go to?
• 1:54:11
  All right, I'm going to my e-mail because that's where they
• 1:54:15
  are. Not that one.
• 1:54:18
  That's really. And I putting the plow on the
• 1:54:20
  side by side. Nice.
• 1:54:24
  So like, this was me last year and the year before for my
• 1:54:34
  entire 3D season was Ridley in the backpack, me walking around
• 1:54:40
  in the woods with like LJ and fucking Chris and Hunter and the
• 1:54:46
  group that I usually shoot 3DS with with her in a backpack.
• 1:54:52
  And it wasn't a problem until she started getting more mobile
• 1:54:59
  and she started getting more restless in the backpack because
• 1:55:01
  she started trying to grab for my string.
• 1:55:03
  Oh. Jesus.
• 1:55:04
  While I was at full draw. So like, yeah, but like that
• 1:55:11
  was, that was my entire 3D season for two years just and I
• 1:55:18
  look fat as fuck in that picture and I'm not even going to have
• 1:55:20
  an excuse of like, oh, the jacket's super puffy.
• 1:55:23
  Like no y'all I got fat after I got out so fuck off.
• 1:55:27
  It happens. It happened.
• 1:55:29
  Yeah. My Freedom 35 fucking hit real
• 1:55:33
  hard. But it's looking like this year
• 1:55:39
  is going to be the year of Barrett in the backpack.
• 1:55:45
  And I am, I'm super excited for it.
• 1:55:48
  And you know, since I talked about it, another example of my
• 1:55:50
  kid is cooler than yours. This is Ridley and I mounting
• 1:55:57
  the plow mount bracket to the bottom of the side by side.
• 1:56:03
  So yeah, my kids are fair, a little redneck kid.
• 1:56:06
  And all these stories that I tell about her, I fully
• 1:56:09
  acknowledge that I have done this to myself.
• 1:56:12
  So I know it sounds like I talk a lot of shit and I'm upset
• 1:56:14
  about it, but I'm not because my philosophy is if if she's
• 1:56:20
  comfortable in a tree sand and in a bass boat, she's not going
• 1:56:22
  to be over the moon and super impressed by the 1st fucking
• 1:56:26
  douchebag she made. So it's got a six point hanging
• 1:56:28
  on the wall because I guarantee you hers will be bigger.
• 1:56:32
  It's. Fair.
• 1:56:35
  Oh yeah. Yeah, All right.
• 1:56:40
  What else do we have? Fuck, Boyce was that?
• 1:56:44
  AI think that that sounds. Save rounds.
• 1:56:46
  No, let's see. No, the fuck?
• 1:56:50
  The freaking cat just committed sudoku to the right of me.
• 1:57:03
  No, I'm not touching that one. Now we've been going for like 2
• 1:57:07
  hours. It's like 11:00.
• 1:57:09
  I'm ready to. I'm ready to rap, dude.
• 1:57:11
  Yeah, I'm, I'm tired, but this was a good one, boys.
• 1:57:14
  All right, so let's go around the horn.
• 1:57:16
  I don't have any feedback from episodes we've put out for this
• 1:57:20
  week. And I don't know if that's
• 1:57:22
  because people aren't listening, which is, I mean, possible, but
• 1:57:25
  I think we had 35 listeners in the last seven days.
• 1:57:27
  So at least somebody's listened to it, but I didn't hear
• 1:57:32
  anything about it. So I guess we're doing something
• 1:57:34
  right. Gavin, you got any save rounds
• 1:57:37
  or alibis? Nothing.
• 1:57:41
  No thank of all. Right, Jimmy, what do you got?
• 1:57:45
  Be rooting, be Tooting, and by God be shooting.
• 1:57:51
  Most of all, be kind. I remember that and I, I like
• 1:57:56
  that. Nice.
• 1:57:58
  I like that sign off All right, as always.
• 1:58:03
  Sign off. Yeah, as always, reach out to
• 1:58:08
  the boys, talk to your friends, stay in touch with the dudes
• 1:58:13
  that you were in the shit with. And dudes are the chicks.
• 1:58:17
  And just don't be a piece of shit.
• 1:58:21
  It's not hard. So with that, this has been
• 1:58:25
  another episode of the Three Damn Dudes podcast for Gavin,
• 1:58:29
  for Jimmy, and I'm Mike. Thanks for showing up.