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S1E7 - 'The Stag Hunt' · Dished at Birth

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Hi, do you want to talk about Slam Frank? Uuuuuh, that's
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my feeling. It's me going, um. I more meant your
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impact. Right. So Slam Frank is an off -Broadway
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show right now, as I usually do for shows. Usually
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not Broadway because it's not very accessible.
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But I was like, hey, you're a tiny off -Broadway
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show. Do you have captioning or anything? And
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they said, yeah. Well, first of all, that wasn't
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their response. Let me pull up this. The actual
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response they gave me. We'll throw it up on the
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Instagram too, maybe. And for the record, I'm
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not offended. I know this is what they do. And
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I thought it was funny. So I said, hi, I'm deaf
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and I'm seeing the show on November 4th. Can't
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wait. I got ADA seating, but I worry I won't
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be able to understand everything. Will I be able
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to access a script or some sort of captioning
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on the day of the show? And then a few hours
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later, whoever runs the social media said, hi,
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Kara, can you hear this? This is all caps. Let
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me know if you need me to type louder. We don't
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have captioning, but we can work on getting you
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a tablet with a script. And then I said, yes,
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that would be amazing. And they said, we'll make
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it happen. Shoot us a message before. And then
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I shot them a message. And then when we got there,
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the iPad was on the chair and no one sat in
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front of me. I had a pretty good view. Yeah,
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you did have a good view. I think I was the first
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person to ask for captioning or a script of some
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sort because Oh, yeah. Also in the message, we're
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so happy to make this experience slam -tastic.
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That's awesome. Frank -tastic. Too far. But then,
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today, I look on the Anne Frank page and Andrew
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Fox who's like the writer of the show, he's yelling
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in the video and he said I'm here to announce
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the accessibility options for our deaf and hard
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of hearing fans. You communicated your needs to
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us and if you need captions you can email slam
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frank hears you at gmail dot com or something. Yeah.
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But I think that's my influence. Yeah I think
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they bought that iPad because no - because of me!
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Yeah. It was the largest iPad I've ever seen.
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It was gigantic. But you know what? It also stayed
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on the whole time. It stayed on the whole time.
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It was fully charged. I could adjust the brightness
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if I needed to. It was the full script, so it
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had the direction in it too, which I don't think
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I needed, but it was nice to read. What I hope
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they'll eventually do is have captions show up
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in time to the actual show being performed. Yeah,
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that would rock. Because that's what some Broadway
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performances do. Did you look over my shoulder
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onto the iPad at certain points? Of course I
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did. Are you kidding? I thought you did. Yeah.
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We were just getting little sneak peeks of what
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was to come. Yeah, because the script does not
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do it justice. That play is something. There
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are kind of no words. I don't even know if I
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would recommend it to people. It made people
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feel a lot of things. Some people were furious.
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We saw people rip up playbills onto the floor.
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Which I think if you're the kind of person that
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is that sensitive, you should have probably known
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that the show wasn't for you. It's called Slam
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Frank. They sell these hats that say Problem-
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Attic. Yeah, you're not allowed to post about
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Slam Frank on Broadway Reddit anymore. They're
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sick of it. They're sick of the discourse. Do
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you want to get to the show? Yeah, let's get
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to the show. That lemon square in the opening
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of the episode looked really good. It looked
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delicious. I'm really hungry today, but it looked
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really good. Me too. Yeah, welcome back to Dished
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the Birth. We are recapping Switched at Birth,
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Season 1, Episode 7, The Stag Hunt. That was
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released July 18, 2011. Why do you think it's called The
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Stag Hunt? I think we're hunting for a stag.
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A dad. Yeah, we are on the hunt. Anyways, yeah,
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that lemon square looked delicious. Yum. And
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then Kathryn signs make out to Daphne. Yeah,
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she learned last episode that it's time to learn
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to sign. And she said, hey, Daphne, watch this.
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Instead of make coffee, she signs make out, which
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to be fair, is very close. They're very similar.
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It's also really cute that I feel like in this
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episode, there was a huge leap where all the
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family's learning a lot more signs. Everyone
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but Toby. I didn't see John sign either. Well,
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John does this really cute thing after Daphne's
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like, hey, so you did just ask me to make out,
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not to make coffee. And Kathryn's embarrassed.
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Daphne leaves and John comes in and she's like,
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I just asked our teenage daughter to make out.
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And he says, I'll make out with you. And he does
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the sign. I was like, that's really cute. I think
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I... It is kind of cute. I'm liking John a lot
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more this rewatch. Also, we barely saw him this
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episode, so maybe that's why. Yeah, I like it
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when he's just sort of like there to be cute
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and then he's gone. Yeah. Buckner sent an email
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out to all the parents saying, hey, heads up,
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someone stole a chemistry test. Bay catches on
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immediately. She's looking at Toby and she's
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like, oh. He stole that test. And she and Daphne
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confront him immediately in his gigantic bedroom.
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Gigantic bedroom. And they do it quite loudly.
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So loudly. But also, remember, the house is huge.
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He could be on the other side of that mansion
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and no one could hear a thing. But I do love
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Daphne's. You stole the test? You stole it? And
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he's like, shush. Also. The captions did not
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portray this, so I could be wrong. But typically
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I feel that the captions are based on the script
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and not based on what the actors are actually
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saying. Okay. You'll find sometimes, I'm sure
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you've clocked that, that sometimes it's not.
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For sure. Across every show, like everything
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on Netflix, that's the case too. Anyway, I think
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when she yells that, she goes, you stole that
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test? He goes, whoa, Deaf-ne, easy. He calls her
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Deaf-ne. Oh. Like, I'm 90 % sure. Deaf-ne instead
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of Daphne. Yeah. That's funny. But also, I was
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like, am I just hearing things? No, you're probably
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right. That tracks with Toby's character. And
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that seems like something they would put in the
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show. Which, honestly, is a very fun... It's
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a fun brother nickname. It's a fun brother nickname
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for your sister. No, I like it. I think it's
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cute. But Daphne is like, what are we gonna do
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about this? About Toby stealing the test, girl?
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You don't have to do anything. She's a moral
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crusader for good or whatever. Yeah, she's definitely
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a moral crusader. But yeah, she urges Toby to
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step over and take responsibility. He's not doing
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that. No. And then Bay says to Toby, if you get
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expelled, you can kiss college goodbye. Toby's
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really rich and privileged. He can go to any
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college. I think he'll be fine. That's so true.
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I guess I never thought about that. I just kind
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of assumed that if he did get expelled, you wouldn't
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go to college. I think it goes on your record.
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Yeah. So that it's something that colleges consider.
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But you could go, he would just go to a different
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private school and finish his degree. So he could
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go to a different private school. Yeah. Man.
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So the stakes are not, they're not that high.
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And I think he knows that. Yeah, he definitely
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does. And then, yeah, John and Kathryn, they're
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worried about what... information the hospital
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discovered. Yeah, the hospital board wants to go
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to court and they don't know why, so John is desperately
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trying to get in touch with this guy Dale who's
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on the hospital board. Yeah and Kathryn asks
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him do you have any secrets that I should know
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about? And I like that John says well none that
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you should know about. He definitely had an affair.
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I'm so, I know he's being cute here but it just
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further fuels my belief. Okay. And then Kathryn's
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secret is that um she shoplifted once when she
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was 12 and she falls asleep at church. She's so
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cute. what a queen. And now Bay and Emmett are continuing
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the hunt for Angelo Sorrento, her father. And she
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signs to him for, like her first sentence, I think,
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I think I found my dad. Yeah. Yay for signing sentences.
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She's so proud of herself. Yeah. It's cute and
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annoying to me. But you know what? It's not the
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word favor. It's more than one word now. It took
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us several Google searches to say, I think I
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found my dad. Yeah. Yeah. She's really putting
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in the effort. She's also understanding Emmett
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a lot better. She is. It's not, she's having
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less of a hard time figuring out what he's saying.
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So they do find an Angelo Sorrento who is a
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DJ. And he just also happens to have dark hair
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and dark eyes. Maybe he's the one. Maybe he's the
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one and Bay is worried and Emmett comforts her
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and says don't worry, he's gonna love you. He doesn't
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know that. No, but he's being nice and he teaches
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Bay the sign for love and Daphne walks in at
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the wrong time. A gripe that I have right before
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Daphne walks in is that Bay this whole episode
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talks to Emmett like he's a dog. In what way? Or
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like a child. Like he's like, he will love you.
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Very seriously. And Bay goes, aw is that the sign
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for love? And he does it again and she goes that's
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so cute and then she like does it back to him. Wrong.
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She'll continue this, yeah she does it wrong. She'll
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continue this through the episode and it just
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really bothered me. I think it goes away. But there's
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like a dynamic between them this episode. It's
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just, it's the tone of voice she's speaking to
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him in. Interesting. Okay. I really, I'm like,
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he's not a dog. First of all, he's a gorgeous
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man. Maybe she's speaking like that, like slow
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and sweetly. One, because she likes him. And
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two, also to make it easier for him to understand
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her. But he could understand her fine before.
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That's true. She was talking a mile a minute.
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Yeah. The last few episodes. Emmett could keep
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up just fine. That's true. Also, like, he can't
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hear her talking to him like he's a baby. Thank
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God. Again, thank God. Because I think he'd like
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her less if he could. Yeah, that's true. It continues.
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I've made notes. But yeah, Daphne walks in. As
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they're signing the word love to each other.
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Awkward. Very awkward. And she's like, what the
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hell? Can't believe you're here. I would be pissed
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if I walked into a room and, like, my best friend
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was hanging out with, like... My new sister?
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Yeah. I didn't even know you were going to be
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here. What are you doing here? You didn't text
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me to say you were coming over? And Bay explains
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that they're doing the dad search. Daphne's not
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happy about it. No. And she's also not happy
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that Bay and Emmett are spending time together
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without her company. And this part, I was like,
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Bay, don't involve her. She clearly doesn't want
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to be involved in the search for Angelo. Like,
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just let her be. But Bay goes like... I'm looking
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for my dad and here is a picture of him. She
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doesn't even ask Daphne if that's okay with her.
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She just whips out the laptop and shows Daphne
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and goes, do you think that's him? And she's
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like, why would I know? Yeah, Daphne kind of
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steps back like she's been like bitten. Like
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she - Which is fair. She doesn't like it. Yeah.
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He left her. Cuts her really deep, like the
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whole Angelo situation. But yeah, so she dips
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out and then Emmett chases after her. I was talking
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to my friend Emma about this scene specifically
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and one of the things she said that resonated
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with me is that the adults aren't really thinking
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about Bay's feelings, so Bay isn't really thinking
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about Daphne's feelings in this situation, so.
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That's a really good point yeah. So Daphne leaves
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because no one's considering her feelings but
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Emmett is considering her feelings. He just wants
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to kind of- well Bay made him go after her. That's
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true. She said, go talk to her. So Emmett chases
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after her and they, they have this confrontation.
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I love- there's not a lot of deaf people signing
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to each other in this show, especially in this
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first season. I love whenever Daphne and Emmett
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are fighting just because they're both such good
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actors. That's true. And it's like the signing
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gets so emotional. However, the show cuts off
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almost all of it. It does. It does. They cut
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off like half of my guy's hands. The entire time
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he's signing. And then they do the last half
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of his monologue from behind. They sure do. So
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that we're just watching Daphne's very expressive
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face. But still, show me Emmett. Yeah, show me
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the two of them signing at each other. Filmed
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at an appropriate position. But Emmett's like,
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your daddy issues. Why don't you come to the
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club with us? Yeah, for some reason. Show him
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how cool and smart you are and what he missed
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out on. And I think this is crazy. First of all,
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parents need to be involved now. You're going
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to a club to meet a strange man you don't know.
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That's insane. And then I feel like Emmett was
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playing therapist here and I know he meant well,
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but he was very like, show them who you truly
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are. So true. And she's so uncomfortable. You
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can tell Daphne doesn't want to engage with this,
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but I do think it serves as a good point because
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Emmett... is, like, enlightening us that this
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is a bigger issue for Daphne. Because we've kind
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of barely seen, like, she snapped at Bay when
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Bay first asked about it. But we've mostly seen
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Daphne as just, like, this, like, perfect, totally
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together person with not that much trauma. Yeah,
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and according to Emmett, he seems to know that
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this is something that has bothered her. So Emmett
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says, come to the club, and Daphne's like, no.
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And then... Bruce shows up at the Kennish mansion.
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Yeah Bruce shows up there and we skipped past this
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earlier because it's not really that relevant
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but we do get a very sexy shot of him and Regina
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in bed. Oh, yeah, that's right. Kind of in the
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opening of the episode. I know. She doesn't have
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a shirt on. Yeah. And Bruce looks hot. And they're
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talking about Kathryn, which I'm like, that's
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so weird. Why are you talking about Kathryn
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when you're in your lover's bed? But okay. And
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what a bad person he probably is. Yeah. And we
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see Denise early on in the episode because she
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comes over to the house. I think her and Kathryn,
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like, play tennis together. Yeah. And they're
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talking about the stolen test. They're talking
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about the stolen test, but. Sheesh. I just like
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that they bring Denise back just to shit talk
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Clover. That one blonde girl that everyone in
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the show hates. From Buckner. Wilke hates her.
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Bay hates her. Clover bought a test. Yeah, Clover
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bought a test. Did she get expelled or just,
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I guess, just suspended? Probably just suspended.
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Damn, they're not coming down hard enough on
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these kids. I know. A thousand dollars. But they
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go after Clover and said, she's dumb, she needs
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it. Have you met Clover? Actually, academic support.
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Clover really needs the test. It's access. That's
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access. But yeah, Bruce shows up and he's like,
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hey, I have Regina's earring. And Kathryn's
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like, at least it's not a thong. Yeah, that was
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weird. Kathryn slut shaming Regina. Mind your
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business. You know they're having sex. They're not
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doing it at the guest house because you specifically
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asked not to. I just love that Kathryn, pretty
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much the whole episode, is wearing an apron with
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a squirrel on it. And under it, it says squirrely.
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What does that mean? Squirrely? Squirrely? Like,
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relating to resembling or characteristic of a
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squirrel. Yeah. That's it. I guess my question
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is, what the hell is Kathryn making that she
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needs to be wearing an apron all day? She wore
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it in the beginning. With the making out sign
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with Daphne. And I guess that's because she was
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making breakfast. But she also had it on still
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when Bruce came to drop off the earring. Are
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you, like, putting on an apron when you cook?
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Because I certainly am not. I don't, but I should.
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Oh, okay. My old roommate in Boston always put
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on an apron before she cooked. And she was really
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protective of her clothes. Huh. And she had really
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nice high quality clothes. And I really do. I
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really should. I do get stains on my sweaters.
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Okay. Maybe I'll get you an apron. Oh, thanks.
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We're back in Bay's art studio. We are. And her
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and Emmett are listening to the mixtape her dad
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made. I like that they just got rights to that
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one song. How would you describe the song? Ambient
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nature beats. Yeah, there's beats with animal
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noises. You hear like a tiger roaring and then...
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squawking. Yeah. And during this little scene Emmett
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looks so cute I just. It's a really cute scene
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between the two of them. Okay, but then I have
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a problem because Bay is still talking to him
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like he's a dog. Oh man. So they're like, he goes
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over to feel the music and he's like vibing out
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and I did cringe out so bad at Bay being like,
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those are animal noises. Roar. Like she's doing
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so much. I hate it. She's like, and that's, those
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are birds. Cawcaw. I'm like, okay. I think he knows what
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they are supposed to sound like. Also just like,
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who is this for? And then he's kind of like ignoring
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her because he thinks she's cute. The power of
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a cute girl, whatever. He's ignoring her being
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kind of cringe. I get it. And then he starts
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dancing. And she goes, aw, yeah, that's right.
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Get down. What? Thank God. Again, I don't think
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he's paying any attention. I don't think he heard
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because he was in the middle of spinning. Yeah,
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he's spinning. Again, Bay, your saving grace
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here is that this boy cannot hear you. Why would
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you say that? It's so weird. You're talking to
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him like he's a little chihuahua that you just
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trained to sit. Aw, that's right. Good job. Good
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boy. Sit. She's like, yeah, dance. Yay. Dance
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for me. Dance for me. And then they start dancing
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and that is really sweet. Again, when Emmett's
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in charge, when Emmett takes over, I'm like,
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thank God. So they're dancing. He's a good dancer.
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Of course, he's good at everything. And then
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Regina hears the music from outside. It's gotta
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be pretty loud. Oh yeah, I guess so. Emmett could
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feel the beat. Yeah. And she just like walks
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in. She doesn't knock or anything, which is crazy.
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Walks right into the studio and is like, guys
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I love this song. Yeah she's like watching them
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dance. Clearly this is kind of a private moment.
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Doesn't care. Is like, yay and then when they
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get embarrassed she's like oh no like keep dancing
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whatever I'll just go. Also, obsessed with her
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not remembering that that's like a song on the
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mixtape and being suspicious. I mean it's a pretty
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niche song I would say. I don't know, maybe Bay
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has taste. I don't think that's true because I've
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seen her art, but whatever. But also, I also
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wanted to add Regina is in a fantastic mood because
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she did just get laid. So true. You're right.
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Yeah, she's having a great time with Bruce. Good
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for her. That's what she wanted. It's true. That's
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exactly what she wanted. And then Toby kind of
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confesses to Kathryn. And he said, Mom, I need
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Mom. Don't tell Dad. I know. Which Kathryn
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immediately tells John. Such a kid's experience,
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though. Mom, I made a mistake. Please don't tell
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Dad. God. And then Daphne finds Regina, who's
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still in a great mood. And she's like, hey, Bay
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is still looking for Dad. Yeah, and... okay simcom
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alert. This is an unnecessary simcom conversation.
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And she asked her mom and it seems like this
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is like the one the very few times they've ever
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talked about Angelo. Yeah. So she ask her mom
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did he leave because I'm deaf? And we learn
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that she felt his absence was her fault for all
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these years which is a horrible thing for a child
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to feel. Horrible thing. I think Regina is really
19:09
pro just like not talking about things and sweeping
19:11
things under the rug. Yeah. And that didn't help
19:13
anyone. And I'm sure that any time Daphne ever
19:17
asked about growing up, that Regina and Adriana
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always shut it down. Right. Like Regina tries
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to do in this conversation. She's like, you know
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what? I'm not going to talk about this with you.
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Anyways. Yeah. She says, anyways, do you like
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this dress? I have a date with Bruce tonight
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and I really like him and I want you to meet
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him. And Daphne's like, what? Yeah. It's crazy.
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And then at one point, Daphne's like. Okay, I
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need you to talk to me. I need you to answer
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me. Yeah, Daphne's not having it. Good. She puts
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her foot down. She's speaking up for herself.
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And Regina says, he left because he couldn't handle
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having a real family. And that's kind of it.
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I still think that answer is too vague. That
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answer is so vague. And also, I don't want to
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spoil it for our listeners if they're watching
20:00
for the first time. But like, we kind of know
20:03
why Angelo left. We do. But basically, Regina
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is like giving such a shitty answer that still
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puts so much of the responsibility on Daphne
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I feel. Yeah. Instead of being a little bit more
20:17
honest about like the state of their relationship
20:20
and the state of her drinking and like, just all
20:24
these things. And she's so interesting because-
20:27
it's so interesting because Regina later that
20:30
episode talks about responsibility and taking
20:33
responsibility and holding yourself accountable
20:36
for other people. But in this situation, she
20:38
is not doing that for Daphne. I also think that
20:42
the second Daphne told Regina, Bay is looking
20:44
for Angelo, Regina should have been like, thanks
20:47
for telling me, and walked right to Bay? And
20:49
been like, let's talk. Or like, talk to the two
20:51
of them separately. Yeah, but she doesn't reach
20:54
out to Bay. No, she's just like, hey, Bay's stubborn,
20:57
let her do it. I don't think they even interact
20:59
in this episode. Not at all. It's so strange.
21:02
So Kathryn tells John about Toby and John crashes
21:06
out. And also talks about personal responsibility.
21:10
He does. He says, no, I should have brought down
21:13
the hammer instead of trying to save him. I do
21:16
think that's somewhat true. I also think like...
21:19
John and Kathryn have some responsibility for
21:21
raising their kid like this. Absolutely. Kathryn
21:24
says, like, do you think it's because of the
21:26
switch and he hasn't been getting enough attention?
21:28
And like, that's not why, but they definitely
21:29
haven't been paying that much attention to Toby.
21:32
But even before the switch, he still had a gambling
21:34
addiction and he still owed Wilke a lot of money.
21:37
And clearly, John knows it's a problem because
21:40
he's bailed him out in the past. Yeah. So whatever.
21:44
I was just like, you guys maybe need to lock
21:47
in more as parents. And then Daphne decides that
21:51
she wants to go to the club. I'm gonna join you
21:53
guys. And then they made the trip to the club.
21:56
And what I noticed is that Bay borrows Toby's
22:00
car. Okay. And she drives. I googled driving
22:04
laws. Tell me. They're breaking the law. That's
22:07
what I wrote in my notes. I'm like, so she took
22:10
Toby's car and Emmett called shotgun. She's 15.
22:13
Emmett's 16. Because Emmett offers to drive.
22:16
And Emmett's 16, so that would be legal. So he
22:19
could. So he could have driven. Although driving
22:21
laws in Missouri are actually crazy because that's
22:24
where we are, right? We're in Kansas City, Missouri.
22:26
Yeah, Kansas City, Missouri. Isn't that where
22:27
Chappell Roan's from? Yes. Shout out. Love you,
22:31
Chappell Roan. So in Missouri, it's actually like
22:34
you still have a bunch of restrictions. Like
22:36
you can't drive at night. You can only drive
22:38
with one person under 19 in the car until you're
22:41
17. Okay. So it's super restrictive. So they
22:45
should not be allowed to drive. No one cares
22:48
though. The family knows they're going out, they
22:50
think they're going out to dinner but like. Yeah.
22:52
What. Also when they decide to go Daphne does
22:56
reveal that she really didn't know Angelo's name.
23:00
Yeah this is the first time she hears his name,
23:03
which I think is crazy. Yeah. Bay is- Bay is also
23:07
shocked. Bay I think, when Bay was looking for
23:10
her dad initially and she asked Daphne his name
23:12
and Daphne didn't say anything. Right. I think
23:15
Bay thought she was intentionally withholding
23:17
information that she had, but Daphne was actually
23:19
protecting the fact that she knows as little
23:22
as Bay does. But I- I also think that Bay realizing
23:26
that Daphne didn't know and like is on the same
23:29
playing ground as her, really brings the girls
23:32
closer together in this episode. Yeah I think
23:34
Bay definitely has a lot more empathy for Daphne
23:36
here. Yeah. And then when they're going also before
23:39
they get in Toby's car, Bay is on the back of
23:42
Emmett's bike, which they haven't cleared with
23:44
the Kennishes. I don't know if the Kennishes just
23:47
haven't noticed. Wait, to get to the club? Yeah,
23:48
they're both on the back of the bike. And then
23:50
Daphne comes out and that's when they're like,
23:52
oh shit, we're going to need a car. Because Bay
23:54
tries to make a joke. She goes, do you have a
23:56
sidecar so we can fit in a third? Which in 2025
24:00
reads very differently, I think. It sure does.
24:02
But I like that Emmett's like, what? And Daphne
24:05
goes, you really want me to interpret that? And
24:07
she says, why make a joke die twice? At least
24:09
Bay knows she's not funny. Yeah. Self -aware
24:12
queen. Self -aware queen. I just thought the
24:14
whole premise was so silly, of like the idea
24:17
of confronting a man. By the way, I'm your bio
24:20
daughter. At his place of work. At your place of
24:23
work. I'm your bio daughter who you've never met.
24:25
Your daughter was switched at birth. Your other
24:28
daughter hates your guts. And there's a random
24:30
deaf guy here. Love it. Perfect plan, no notes. Yeah.
24:34
Um but yeah the three of them arrived at the
24:36
club with Toby's car. No sidecar. Illegally driving
24:39
Toby's car. Also, we later find out this is a gay
24:43
club. Are the posters not obvious? I think they
24:46
are and Bay is just too- she has a bad gaydar.
24:48
Yeah and then they get to the door and this woman
24:52
answers and Bay says hello cool sexy bar lady.
24:55
Great start. Great, perfect start. She's so smooth
25:00
with it. But you know what, Emmett comes to the rescue
25:02
and he does some deaf gain here and starts signing
25:06
extremely fast and just some random words. He's
25:09
like, you know what, I'm gonna sign really fast
25:11
and say some random things until you give up
25:13
and let me in. He signs baseball and grapefruit
25:15
and whatnot and the woman looks disgusted. Yeah,
25:19
she looks horrified. And she's like whatever, get
25:22
in. So now there's three underage people in this
25:25
club. Cool. Yeah, Bay says he left his retainer
25:28
here. Can we look through the box to find it? This
25:32
club has like such an official lost and found
25:35
box. I don't think that's real. I don't think
25:37
a real club would have that. Really? Not in the
25:40
like nice, organized way. She, I don't know. Also
25:43
your retainer? And I like that when he goes in
25:45
the box, he whips out. He pulls out the bra.
25:48
Like a candy cane bra. Yeah. It's really funny.
25:50
And they also leave and they don't tell him where
25:52
they're going. I think Emmett knows he's there
25:54
to be the distraction. Yeah, that's true. I think
25:56
he's just like, I'm going to do my part now.
25:59
I'm going to rummage through three boxes looking
26:00
for a retainer I don't need. If I lost my retainer
26:03
inside a club, I would not be going back for
26:06
that thing. That thing is gone forever. Even
26:08
if it's not, I don't want it back. Clubs are
26:10
gross. They are so gross. There's no amount of
26:13
sanitizing that thing that would get me to put
26:15
it back in my mouth. Again, I know it's not real.
26:17
This is an imaginary retainer. But I wouldn't
26:20
even go back for my imaginary retainer. Yeah.
26:22
Bay and Daphne spot an Angelo. Sure. At the DJ's
26:27
set. An Angelo of sorts. An Angelo of a kind.
26:29
And Bay freezes and is like, Daphne, can you
26:32
speak to him? Daphne didn't even want to be there.
26:34
I know. But yeah, big ask. Yeah. Daphne confronts
26:39
him. She says, do you remember a woman named
26:42
Regina Vasquez? And he says, I'm not sure. And
26:44
that's where the conversation should have ended.
26:46
And instead, she unloads on him, which is good.
26:49
Good for her that she's getting it off her chest.
26:51
Wrong person, though. Wrong person, clearly.
26:53
Right away, you can tell. And I do love that
26:57
she unloads, like, you left me. It was terrible.
27:01
I've, like, thought about you my whole life,
27:03
which is a reveal. We didn't know that. And then
27:06
Bay kind of comes up. And Daphne turns to Bay
27:10
and goes, don't even bother trying. This guy's
27:12
an asshole. He hasn't spoken. She hasn't said
27:14
a word. She hasn't let him speak. But I love
27:17
that she's decided that. He's a piece of shit.
27:20
And he's just standing there very nicely, like,
27:22
listening. Very polite. And then Bay rushes up
27:26
and goes, I don't want to yell at you. And I'm
27:28
your real daughter. Where's her loyalty? That's
27:32
shitty. Don't say that. Don't be like, hey, I'm
27:34
the better one. Also. You haven't even heard
27:37
him speak yet. Yeah. At least ask him a few more
27:41
questions. So, yeah. Angelo. The reveal. Says,
27:45
what? And then also, sorry girls, I'm not anyone's
27:49
dad. I am gay and I'm extremely gay. Are gold
27:52
star gays a thing? The way gold star lesbians
27:55
are? Is it like the same concept? I don't know.
27:57
But yeah, he does say he's never had sex with
28:00
a woman. Yeah. Nor been a sperm donor, so. Which
28:03
I love that they asked that. Okay. Regina didn't
28:06
use a sperm donor with Angelo, but whatever.
28:09
But he's being really nice about it. He's very
28:11
nice. He says, you're both beautiful. I would
28:13
be proud to be either of your dads, but I'm not.
28:15
And I hope you find what you're looking for.
28:17
Yeah. And they both seem really let down by the
28:19
fact that this is the wrong Angelo. Personally,
28:22
me, if I found out my biological father was not
28:25
a DJ, I would be relieved. But he's a gay DJ.
28:28
It's a little better. I guess that's cooler,
28:30
yeah. Yeah. Yeah, after the gay club. After the
28:34
gay club. The three of them go to dinner at a
28:37
diner. Emmett's like, okay, so that's a strike.
28:40
But what about the guitar case? And Daphne's
28:43
very taken aback because she's like, you told
28:47
Bay about this? And she's not liking how close
28:49
they're getting. You can watch her sort of putting
28:51
the pieces together. Yes, she's catching on.
28:53
She's like, when did you talk about this? And
28:55
then they're like, well, we found his car. They're
28:57
like, we went on a whole adventure together.
29:00
And she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. What's
29:03
going on here? And then back at the Kennish house,
29:07
Denise is like, oh, my earring. You have my earring.
29:11
Also, my kids stole the test. Oh, yeah. Anyways.
29:14
Her sons, whatever. Yeah. Oh, my earring. And
29:17
then Kathryn's like, what? Denise goes, oh
29:20
yeah, Bruce and I are still sleeping with each
29:22
other. And then Kathryn later tells Regina
29:24
and again, Regina doesn't believe her. She tells
29:27
Regina that Denise and Bruce are still sleeping
29:30
with each other. But the way Kathryn does it,
29:32
she's like waiting outside the guest house and
29:35
Regina comes down in a bright blue business casual
29:38
dress and is like, well, that's a nice dress.
29:42
Where are you going? Like she's being a bitch.
29:45
She is. And then she's like, I just want to tell
29:47
you. Although what she says is that Bruce is
29:51
seeing Denise again. Which is not true. Which
29:54
is not true. They're just sleeping together.
29:56
Yeah. Feels different. I don't know. Call me
29:58
crazy. Maybe Kathryn doesn't know the lingo.
30:00
That's probably true. Call me crazy. I think
30:03
it's fine to sleep with your ex -wife every once
30:06
in a while if you want. You have kids together.
30:08
He's not exclusive. No, and they were never exclusive.
30:11
But I kind of think that Regina's just like,
30:13
okay, I... want out of this mess, once she realizes
30:16
it's true. So yeah, Regina goes to Bruce directly
30:19
and they're like making out, and then she's like
30:22
haha, Kathryn said the funniest thing. And he
30:25
said yep it's true. I love that she goes, she said
30:28
you were sleeping with your ex -wife. Oh which
30:30
one? Very funny, she goes haha. And then he goes
30:33
no yeah I am. I like that he's honest. He's very
30:36
honest, he's also not he's like we're not exclusive.
30:38
I didn't think it was a big deal. I just thought
30:41
it was so funny that Regina says You can only
30:43
sleep with one of us. Very antiquated. He
30:46
was like, I have feelings for both of you. And
30:47
she said, well, that's fine. But you can still
30:49
only sleep with one of us. But she did originally
30:51
just want to sleep around with him. Yeah, I guess
30:54
not around just with him. But she wanted to just
30:57
like, be having uncomplicated sex. It sounds like
30:59
that could still happen. But her pride- I guess
31:01
it makes it a little more complicated if it's your ex
31:03
-wife. I guess she does say history usually wins
31:06
out. Yeah. In these situations. So anyway, bye,
31:10
Bruce. Bye, Bruce. We never see him again. I
31:12
think that's, yeah, that's the last we see of
31:13
Bruce. Now we're at Buckner. It's the next day.
31:17
Toby's waiting outside. He's about to confess.
31:19
Yeah. And Wilke confesses to stealing the test
31:22
because Denise's sons ratted him out. And I'm not
31:26
sure why he's protecting Toby, but he takes all
31:28
the blame. I mean, he is Toby's friend. I guess
31:31
he was also the mastermind of this. I mean, he
31:33
says it. Like, why have both of us go down if
31:36
we don't need to? Yeah. And also he's in the
31:38
place of privilege too. He was like, whatever.
31:40
I can go to a different school. Well, he didn't
31:42
get expelled. He just got suspended. Oh, that's
31:44
right. Because he confessed. And then over at
31:46
Carlton, Daphne asks Emmett what's up with him and
31:51
Bay. And I have a side note, which is Kansas
31:54
City, Missouri gets pretty cold. It is crazy
31:57
to me that Carlton has outdoor lockers. This
32:00
is filmed in LA. I know. But come on. They're
32:04
not making it accurate. Yeah, it's not accurate.
32:06
But yeah, out in the beautiful, sunny Southern
32:09
California parking lot with the outdoor locker,
32:12
she's like, hey, what's going on? Yeah, tell
32:15
us. Also, you're such a hypocrite because you
32:18
kept telling me that Liam and I wouldn't be compatible
32:20
because he's hearing. And yet you seem to like
32:24
Bay. And he goes. Yeah, but that's because Liam
32:26
was a loser. Yeah, and it's like, first of all,
32:29
I don't like Bay and Liam is a loser. So that's
32:32
that. And then, yeah, Regina tells Kathryn
32:35
she was right. This is part is sweet because
32:37
Kathryn says, I will always tell a friend this
32:39
information. They're friends. They're friends
32:41
now. And then Bay realizes that Toby is like,
32:46
no consequences for my actions. That's awesome.
32:49
I'm going to go back to gambling. Whoohoo. And so she
32:52
goes straight to Regina, who is the only addict
32:55
she knows. Regina comes to Toby's studio. She
32:59
sits with Toby and says she almost lost custody
33:02
of Daphne due to her drinking and that she only
33:04
got it under control when she realized that she
33:07
needed to be accountable, not just to herself,
33:09
but to other people. Yeah. Which you weren't
33:12
accountable to your daughter, though? No. Okay.
33:14
And then Toby's like, okay, whatever. And she's
33:17
like, what because I'm just some lady who lives
33:19
in your guest house you're not going to take
33:21
me seriously? And it's like yeah kind of. To Toby,
33:23
she is just kind of some lady that lives in her-
33:26
yeah he has no relationship with her. No. This
33:28
is the first time we've seen the two of them
33:29
talk. Yeah Regina does not really put in the work
33:32
with him at all, so this is kind of crazy. But
33:34
I guess it works because Toby does give John
33:39
his lucky deck. Not very lucky. Pretty unlucky
33:42
deck. And he says you know, I'm gonna go the principal
33:45
and confess. So that he can be held accountable.
33:48
My hot take is I don't think he needs to do that.
33:51
Is that crazy? Can't he do other things? I think
33:55
the parents should do something. Yeah. I think
33:58
he should be in trouble. He should definitely
34:00
be in trouble. But I don't think that he needs
34:03
to, like, get the school involved. I just, like,
34:05
don't trust this private school. Whatever. Yeah,
34:08
so I guess it works. And then John is... stalking
34:13
Dale. Yeah outside of his place of work. And he
34:16
says hey please tell me what's going on with
34:19
the case. And Dale was like I can't tell you anything
34:21
but I will tell you that we have some dirt on
34:24
Regina. And then he kind of leaves. And he says
34:27
it's not the DUI. It's not the DUI, so it's something
34:29
that we do not know about. Yeah and Daphne is
34:33
in the guest house. Yeah she's prepping dinner
34:36
for- prepping dinner. Again. I know. Why is Daphne doing everything?
34:40
She's wearing like a military jacket. Nice. Inside,
34:45
which just feels crazy. Maybe- And she's like,
34:49
am I cooking for three? Because clearly she still
34:51
thinks Bruce is coming over. And then Regina's
34:54
like, nah. Yeah, nah, that's over. And Daphne
34:56
goes, do you still play guitar? And Regina
34:59
goes, no, never did. And then she goes, what's
35:01
in that guitar case? And she's like, ah, just
35:03
nothing. Regina is a terrible liar. Oh, yeah. And
35:06
Daphne catches on immediately because when Regina
35:09
goes to have fancy cheese and drink with Melody,
35:12
Daphne's like, okay, it's time to crack the code,
35:16
literally. She pulls out that guitar case and
35:19
she's working on the code. And then meanwhile,
35:21
at some point at Buckner, Emmett pulls up on
35:26
his bike. Oh, that's right. yeah Emmett pulls up
35:28
at Buckner to see Bay and Bay's like hey Daphne's
35:30
not here. And he's like I'm here to see you. He
35:33
says I really like you and she's like what and
35:36
then they kiss. It's cute. It was so cute. I did
35:40
immediately think watching this as an adult now
35:43
I'm like oh wow he kind of goes and kisses Bay
35:46
to spite Daphne. Oh to be like I'll show you. I
35:49
don't know, it feels like he's kind of spurred
35:52
on by the fact that Daphne is like jealous or
35:54
upset about this situation. I think two things
35:57
can be true, I think it's there and also, yeah-
35:59
oh he definitely does like her, but it kind of
36:01
bothers me that, and he does say to Bay like Daphne
36:04
and I were just talking and I like realized I
36:07
like you, but I think if I were Bay it would bother
36:09
me that's how he realized I guess. But anyway
36:12
he does kiss her and then he just kind of walks
36:15
away. Yeah. No comment. Standing there. And then
36:18
Daphne is- we get this montage of Daphne trying
36:21
to crack the code on- several days it seems. It
36:25
has to be several days because she's in that
36:27
stupid military jacket and then she's in pajamas.
36:30
Yes. And then she changes two more times. So my
36:34
question for you is, she's always in her room
36:36
when she's doing this. Yes. Do we think she just
36:38
takes the guitar case into her room and Regina
36:40
doesn't notice it's missing or do we think she's
36:42
putting it back every time? That's a good question.
36:45
I'm gonna say she puts it back every time and
36:47
she just looks at it, and takes it, and tries to
36:50
crack the code while Regina's at work or something.
36:52
If it took me that long to crack a code, I would
36:54
just break open the guitar case. It's not a safe.
36:57
It looks pretty easy to break open. Just smash
36:59
it open. Yeah, or like get a knife and do a little
37:02
wiggling. But she's doing that, what do you call
37:05
that when you have the numbers and they correspond
37:07
to letters? So she's doing it corresponding with
37:10
the phone keypad. Okay. So like one is like ABC
37:14
and two is like DEF. Is there a term for that
37:18
though? If there is, I don't know. Okay. But
37:21
she does whip out a flip phone. She was like,
37:23
bam, this is going to be it. So she tries like
37:25
1, 2, 3, A, B, C, things like that. And then
37:28
going down the list, she does DPV at one point,
37:32
which I noticed, which is her initials. And she's
37:34
doing a bunch of other people's initials. Yeah.
37:36
And then she's doing like Ray and Say. And then
37:40
she's like, wait a second, Bay. So, yeah, she
37:43
puts in 229. And it opens. And it opens and.
37:48
And it looks like it's childhood photos of Bay.
37:51
And they look like they're taken from a distance,
37:53
like someone was watching her. Yeah, it's almost
37:56
like creepy stalker photos of Bay throughout
37:59
her entire life. And report cards from childhood.
38:03
Daphne is horrified. Shocked. And that's how
38:07
the episode ends. But now we, the audience, know
38:11
that, oh. The lawsuit has something to do with
38:14
this. Yeah, something, all right. For sure. And
38:17
Regina knew about the switch. This is, like,
38:20
the biggest- This was huge for me when I saw
38:22
this as a kid. I was jaw agape. I can't imagine
38:26
being Daphne in that situation. Because all the
38:28
photos look, they're, like, kind of creepy. It's
38:31
weird. There's, like, little Bay on a bike. Or photos
38:35
of, like, younger Kathryn with Baby Bay. Yeah.
38:39
And it looks like they're taken through a window
38:40
or like through the playground fence. It's freaky.
38:44
It's very weird. It's freaky. It's also like
38:46
to keep that in your closet. Find a better place.
38:49
In the Kennish's guest house. You couldn't do
38:51
the bank? She also has all those boxes at Melody's.
38:54
Why wouldn't she keep it there? I guess to keep
38:57
it safe in case Melody found it, maybe. Surprise!
39:00
Daphne fucking found it. Yeah, if Melody found
39:02
it, I think Melody would keep her mouth shut.
39:04
Me as well. Yeah. Yeah, Melody's loyal. She wouldn't
39:07
have said anything. I mean, she would have confronted
39:09
Regina. Yeah, Melody would have been like, what
39:11
the hell is this? But I'm not going to tell anyone.
39:13
Yeah. Man, drama is going to ensue. Oh, I can't
39:18
wait for the next episode. Me too. The next episode
39:20
is fun. I want to make a note that I've decided
39:23
that they dress Emmett very well in this show.
39:26
With his little like bomber jacket. When he goes
39:29
to kiss Bay, he's wearing like this nice denim
39:31
shirt. They just dress him well, I think. The
39:35
only character they dress well. Yeah. I don't
39:38
hate the things they put Kathryn in. I think
39:40
they work for her character. She dresses so business
39:44
-y. Yeah, but that's very, she's like a white,
39:47
super rich. Like WASPY. Country club WASP, yeah.
39:51
Yeah, I guess that tracks. Same for Regina. The
39:54
way they dress Regina doesn't make sense to me.
39:56
In what way? I think they should let her be cooler.
39:59
Like her business casual dress on her date with
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Bruce does not feel accurate. No, you're right.
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She should be a cool mom. Yeah. She should be
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dressing hotter. Yeah. And John, whatever. He's
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got the quarter zip in. That man loves a quarter
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zip. Anyways. Yeah. That's the episode. That's
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the episode. Oh my God. I wonder what will happen
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