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Is the NFL involved in COLLUSION? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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Now, ladies and gentlemen, he's been waiting carefully, calmly
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and collectively. His name is, well, his last name
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is Ward and we know a couple of Wards, but this guy has been
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known as a free safety in the NFL.
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We are now talking to former 8 year NFL safety play for the
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Browns, the Broncos and the Buccaneers from 2010 to 2017,
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the one and only TJ Ward. TJ, what's up, buddy?
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What's going on? What's going on?
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How's everything? Man, you look better than I do.
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Man. I've been dealing with sleep
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apnea. I had to go on a cruise.
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I was dropping deuces, I was clogging up toilets.
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I mean, it hasn't been very, very good for me.
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Everybody thought, hey, you go to Bermuda, you get to go away.
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And I got, I went away and almost got arrested.
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So that's a whole nother story. How are you, man?
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You, you've been away from football.
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You've been away from football for what is it now, 6-7 years
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now? It's been a while.
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What have you been doing? What have you been doing since
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football has been done for you? Well, First off, I have a four
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year old, so that's mainly I got a four year old.
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So I'm chasing him around and he's getting into activities
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now. So he just dashed soccer camp
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last week getting in some T-ball and flag football.
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So really with him. And then business wise, I
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started the agency NIL and professional representation for
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NFL and NBA. So that company is called Player
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Above Sports and my nonprofit So War Boy Project.
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Those three things keep me busy. So you're an agent, That's what
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you do, that's. Your no, I'm not an agent.
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No, I'm not an agent. I'm the CEO founder.
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I got it and I have agents that are certified well.
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That's good. I mean, you, you could be
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certified. We, I mean, Nathan's a certified
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agent if he really wants to be. I mean, would you want to trust
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Nathan? Could you imagine Nathan and I
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love Nathan. Nathan is great.
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He's our PR guy, great personality, such a nice kid.
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Could you imagine Nathan go to a high school football game and he
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starts to talk about the PS and QS or the XS and OS when it
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comes to football? And if you're you're scouting a
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running back or a quarterback back or even a defensive
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lineman, Could you imagine Nathan TJ going going to a high
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school football game and trying to recruit one of those guys?
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Yeah, man, no doubt. Really.
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You just not be yourself, man, Be yourself.
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Know the game and you know, it's hard work, but you know, I'm
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determined and it's not easy. Hasn't been easy and I don't
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ever see it being easy. But it's so many things that's
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changing in the game and in the atmosphere of NIL and college
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and professional. You know, the NBA draft was
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yesterday. That was crazy.
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So there's so much going on in the industry, but, you know, you
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just got to keep hold and, you know, keep striving.
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But you could still find NBA players their second rounds
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tonight and who knows, you could find another Yokich so.
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Yeah, not this draft, not this draft, but you know, hopefully
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you see me in the green room. So, man, that's the goal.
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That's the goal. I'm trying to be the draft night
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all. Right.
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So why don't we go through your career and, and the Browns are
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an organization that have been a laughing stock for many, many
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years, OK. They have a quarterback right
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now named Deshaun Watson. He likes to go to parlors and
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hang out with a lot of interesting people while he's
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doing it. He might be very good friends
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with Robert Kraft. I don't want to get into that.
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I want to get into your career and your thoughts of the
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Cleveland Browns, the organization in the fans.
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What was it like playing in Cleveland?
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It was cold. No man, it was you know it was
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miserable losing no, but the fans are so great.
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They keep you motivated and you know, they always there
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cheering, but man, it the losing part just sucks, man.
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And the check the turnover coaches every new coaches every
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year, new GM. You know, it's it's the
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instability is the biggest problem I feel in Cleveland,
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right. You know, you got to have some
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stability and you got to, you know, pick something and ride it
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out for a little bit and see what happens.
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But you know, I don't think really anyone there has had a
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great a long enough tenure to to do anything.
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So you play against a lot of good players in that AFC North
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that was loaded at the time. They had three playoff teams, I
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believe like two straight years, something like that.
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What were some of the best battles you had, both
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physicality wise and even like any individual players in that
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division? Oh, man, you like you say that
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was the peak of that division. So no, I came in as a rookie
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right into the fire. I'm like, man, we got the
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Ravens, we got the Steelers, the Bengals.
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And at their time, you know, they were loaded.
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But it was fun, man. It was fun.
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One week you, you see over there, you got Ray Lewis and Ed
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Reed and, you know, Flack on them, Ray Rice and everybody
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else. And next week you got Pittsburgh
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with Roethlisberger and Troy. And so it was like in your
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within your division almost, you know, being in all of the Pro
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Bowl every week. But no, it was tough.
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It was tough. We got we got ours though, I'm
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not gonna lie. We got ours against Pittsburgh a
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little bit and we definitely got ours against Cincinnati and
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Baltimore. But it was everyone else that we
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couldn't, we couldn't seem to get them WS against, but
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definitely black and blue division.
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What ATJ like you know, I, I played for four teams in my
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career. What a what did you find the
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hardest thing like the adjustment from team to team
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like schematically just clubhouse stuff and or just
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trying to figure out like where do I fit in and and what role do
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I play? Oh, I think schematically you,
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you hit it on the head. I tell people all the time, like
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every division is almost like college, a division in college
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football, like the style of of football is different.
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So coming from the AFC North, you know how we just mentioned
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it was black and blue division, a lot of you know, right in your
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face straight up straight at you going to play action and you
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know, it's it's heavy ball. When I got to Denver, the AFC
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West, it was West Coast, more style, wide open, a lot of
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motion shifting and pre snap things where wasn't that much in
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the AFC North. You know, it was a little
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faster, you know, smaller backs and wide receivers, but you
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know, it was an adjustment. It definitely was an adjustment
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and I did, I carried that weight from the AFC North to the AFC
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West and I realized I had to cut a couple pounds because it's a
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little bit faster, Man, I'm like what?
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I can't get I couldn't transition the same with that
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weight on. As everybody knows, we are
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talking to 8 year former vet from the NFL, safety TJ Ward,
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play for the Browns, the Broncos, the Buccaneers.
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TJ, obviously you played with a lot of great safeties and you
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mentioned Palamalu and then you have Ed Reed, 2 Hall of Farmers,
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two of the greatest safeties of all time.
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When you look at the game and how it's transitioned from the
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time that you played to now, what safety that you have
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watched over the last couple of years has really stood out to
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you from the best from all the other ones.
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Who who the best out of all of I wouldn't say there's a best out
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of all. I can't.
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I can't say that there's one that just peaks overall in, but
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I definitely like Derwin James. He's been a guy that I like to
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watch. Justin Simmons, my dog in
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Denver. He's had a great career and it's
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been balling. Kenny recently or the last
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couple years in Green Bay, you know he's been doing this thing.
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There's a few guys out there. I like two guys.
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You mentioned you haven't mentioned yet Bates, who was
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done wonders. I was I was going to get to
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base. That was my next guy.
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Bass is he's he's had a. And Kyle Hamilton, who has been
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fantastic over there with the Baltimore Ravens, another safety
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that they they find them. They're an organization that
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knows how to find Starks. Yeah, Starks is another one
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that's going to be a pretty good player too.
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So I, I I think that's all. I just wanted to know what you
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thought the safety position from when you were playing and now
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from the top safeties, young safeties that are developing
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right now in the NFL, who you think are are the next and up
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and coming superstars in the NFL?
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Yeah, yeah, those, those handful of guys, I'd say hit him pretty
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hard. You know, Hitman still doing
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this thing out there in Minnesota for the Ogs.
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So you played with a very loaded secondary in Denver, probably
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the best in my time watching football, threesome of corners
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that they've had that they had with Harris to leave and Bradley
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Roby. And then you played alongside
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another good one and Darian Stewart in that, in that Wade
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Phillips defense for a while. So what was it like with playing
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with those guys on that defense? Man, it was a pleasure.
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Like it was a pleasure going out there every day competing with
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those guys. It made ball easy.
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You know, you really just had to.
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A lot of times when I was in Cleveland, I feel like I had to
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make up, you know, for other players or I had to do more than
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I was asked to do. But in Denver, you knew that
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that wasn't needed. Just do your job and we'll be
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all right. And sometimes, see, I couldn't
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even get to do my job before the play was made.
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So having those guys out there with the same mindset, saying
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competitiveness, the brotherhood off the field, coming to work
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was easy. What do you think?
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Like, obviously you're not that far to move from the game, but
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games evolve, they change like and obviously rules have
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changed. They're a little different than
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than when you started. Is there some that you like and
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there's some that you dislike? And if there are, what would you
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change about them? Man, of course, you know, I, I
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don't like some of the personal fail penalties for late hits or
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whatever those type of situations are with the
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quarterback sliding late. I think we're getting penalized
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too much for some things that, you know, are out of our
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control, which started when I was like on the back end of my
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career with targeting and such, but some rules that I do like.
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You know, I don't is there any rules as geared to us.
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I think they put the like the chop blocking rule that they
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took out on the offense. They're not allowed to crack
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back either, which is cool for for us to keep us safe.
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You know, that's about it. Oh, he's, he's got jokes.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we are talking.
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To former. Eight-year NFL safety TJ Ward
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TJ, you played for a Super Bowl championship team, the Denver
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Broncos. I remember that team.
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You've had a lot of Hall of farmers, two of them that are
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have been inducted to the Hall of Fame.
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What was it like playing for a Super Bowl team and what was it
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like playing with a guy like Peyton Manning a a superstar
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player at the tail end of his career, personality wise and
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just talent wise, What type of player was he?
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I'm going to tell you, I went to the Hall of Fame parties or
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ceremony two years in a row. I started to think I was going
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to go every year. I'm like, hey, this is cool.
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I'm at the Hall of Fame every year with what about teammates?
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But no, it was amazing, man. Having Peyton, you know,
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directing the ship, being the captain, dude, that was just
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such a fun team, right? We had so much fun on that team.
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Peyton, he's just one of the guys like everybody else.
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And I can really say so much more like, So what you see is
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what you get the same Peyton cast and all that you see on TV.
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That's what we were dealing with in the locker room, you know, So
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other than the business aspect, it was a lot of fun was.
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He your favorite teammate? What on that team?
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Who was your favorite teammate? I mean, there was a lot.
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Of my favorite teammate is my dog a key man.
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That's that's my favorite teammate.
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That was my dog on the score. We all ran together.
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We were pretty tight. Von Chris Stew D Ware Roby, Kate
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Kayvon No, we rolled thick, man. We rolled deep, and that's why
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we were so tight. You.
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Could argue you had. Knighting on that team.
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He was a fun one too as a defensive tackle.
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T Knight was on there when I first got there.
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He wasn't on the Super Bowl team, but yeah, he still he he
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was. T Knight was the one that
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welcomed me to Denver. That's my boy, man.
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Your secondary was unbelievable. That was probably one of the top
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2 secondaries in all of football if I'm not mistaken.
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Talib, wasn't he traded to the Broncos?
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Yeah. I forgot he was trader free
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agent. We all started three agent
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dudes. I'm always bucks trading to the
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Patriots. That's what it was the.
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Patriots let him go. That's what it was because
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Talib, we bounced to like 3 teams in less than four years
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and and maybe because of his personality, but he has an
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interesting personality even now.
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I don't know him personally, but I watch all the things that he
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posts up on social media. He's got a unique, unique
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personality, Talib so. Man, look, that's what you
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should have been down there on the locker room and the
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sideline. You talk about personalities
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between Key Von, me, Chris Harris, Oh my God, Peyton, you
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know, Emmanuel Sanders, CJ Anderson, Like it's just full.
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The whole team is just full of pranksters, jokesters and shit,
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but dogs at the same time. We're not playing no games.
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CJ Anderson was a very good playoff running back, too.
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I remember I get up a Giants fan.
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I remember when he was with the Rams and he played against the
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Cowboys at the playoffs. And the whole.
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Todd Gurley saga where he was hurt and then was he really
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hurt? And then CJ Anderson goes for
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like 175 yards against them. And I'm in the Super Bowl, too,
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against the Carolina defense. Yes, CJ be Totem.
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You see that Patriots game in that.
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It was the regular season game where we won, I think.
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I don't know if we went to overtime.
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It was close, but it was snowing.
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CJ had a long run for the game so.
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TJ, do you think like you're talking about the camaraderie
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and everything and and winning? Do you?
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How big of a part do you think that plays like knowing he's got
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my sticks, he's got my back. You know, he's going to ride
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with me, he's going to die with me and he and he's going to give
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it everything I got. Just like I'm how?
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Because there there's obviously X's and O's of it.
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But when you get to that point, I mean, you're grinding like
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you're you're doing everything to to feel because we ain't 100%
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when we get to that point. We're trying to get to where we
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can. But where do you think that
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camaraderie and like knowing each other has their back plays
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a part on getting to next week to next week?
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Because y'all is different. Like it's either you, you win or
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you lose and go home. Yeah, for sure at that point, I
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think that plays a big part in what we do.
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But we have a chance. Y'all don't have a chance.
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So how does how does that play a part?
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And do you think it plays a bigger part than people realize?
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I'll probably say it's like the third most important behind.
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You got to have the talent out there first.
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You got to be able to have the ability and the players out
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there and you got to have a decent scheme.
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Like you got to be decent. You don't have to be the
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greatest, but if you got the talent, the decent scheme, then
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you'll be all right. And then next I say is the
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camaraderie, the cohesion and how you guys get down together.
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And those three things make championships get Super Bowls.
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TJ, you, we, we talk about quarterbacks.
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You played against some of the greatest quarterbacks, Drew
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Brees, Peyton Manning, Y'alls, Tom Brady, great great quarter,
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Ben Roethlisberger. You played against a lot of
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these top quarterbacks. When you look at the
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quarterbacks now and the athletic ability that some of
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them have, Lamar Jackson, you see Josh Allen.
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These guys are like beasts and and Josh Allen's like 6 foot
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six, £250 and he runs through people like a full back.
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When you look at the game then and you look at now, if you were
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playing now, how would you stop? How would you defend those type
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of guys like Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen and all these mobile
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quarterbacks that are playing today?
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Oh man, I think I mean we've had our fair share ourselves and
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Mike Vick ain't no slouch to chase around.
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But you know, I I would not like to do that every week is is
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chase somebody around out the pocket and when we blitz in and
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he find that somebody is not my favorite thing to do that would
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like that was my least favorite when I played his quarterbacks
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like Russell Wilson, Mike Vick, who when the play breaks down,
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finds extra times or scrambles and gets the first down.
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Man, I just I'd rather have somebody that sit in the pocket
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and then when it breaks down, he had to throw it away or
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something. And if he finds a guy and he's
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on time with his throat, but you know, me being usually the spy
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or somebody, I got to come out to the zone and chase the
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quarterback. It's not fun.
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Watching the game right now, who do you think is the best
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quarterback in the NFL? The best quarterback right now
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in the NFL, It's still Patty, man.
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It's Pat. Yeah.
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I don't know why I thought that I was there being so dramatized
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with you feel like I got to take something off the No, It's Pat.
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Yeah, it's definitely Pat for sure.
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Why? Why do you think he's the best?
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I think he just has a a dab of everything, man.
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He he has the scrambling ability.
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He can run. I wouldn't even say he has the
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best arm or anything like that. He just seems to make the plays
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in in the best moments. So his offense is definitely
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favors him. I think he, Andy Reid is a guru
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at what he does. But that tandem right now,
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whether you want to call it Randy's or whatever it is, it's
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Pat. But, you know, I think Lamar is
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a very close second, but overall, it's Pat.
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So shifting, I know you mentioned you were we have an
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agency shifting to the college football.
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The big NIL ruling that just got passed with the Now the schools
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can actually directly pay the players within a.
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Damn it, Speedy. What are your thoughts to that
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ruling and how do you think it'll impact college football,
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college sports? I'm interested.
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I can't say I don't like it anytime you're they're allowing
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the players to get paid, but I just, we have to really see how
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that's going to be formatted and what it negates and what it
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allows, right? There's always some loopholes
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when you see the acceptance of something, there's always
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something in fine print. So we got to see what's going on
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with that fine print. But right now it sounds good.
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Well, that was going to be my question because I I got a son
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playing baseball in college. So I feel your pain on the 40s.
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School. We're school.
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He's at Hutch. OK, yeah, that's dope.
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That's Congrats. Be proud, man.
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Yeah. They just won the national
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championship this year. Junior college fire.
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Beat Iowa Western, but yeah, so I'm going to go along those
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lines though. So when you having what you
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have, like, how does you and your group stay on top of that
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and read between the lines to make sure obviously you put not
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only your company but your student athlete in the right
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situation to where nothing comes back Because you know, there are
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always loopholes, there's always the fine print.
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But as it's. Coming and, you know, I'm, I'm
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learning with this as well and, and seeing what my son can and
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can't do and and what terms are and obviously junior college a
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little bit different, but they're Division One junior
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college. So it's kind of in the same way,
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yeah. Yeah, yeah, I understand because
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my, but a, a family friend of mine is going, he just left high
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school and he's going to AJC for one year and doing that baseball
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route. So, but to answer your question,
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it's just being in open communication with the
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compliance of the schools and the I'm blanking on the name of
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the the NIL departments of the school.
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I forgot the collective, sorry, the collectives, that's that CTE
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kicking in. But yeah, just being over
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communication with them, just trying to stay up on the
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compliance department. And, and when you are in those
22:12
negotiations and making sure that you have everything on the
22:15
table and laid out before you're signing anything, before you're
22:19
in agreement, anything that's very important because you can't
22:22
backtrack and you see what's happening.
22:25
Sometimes these kids aren't getting paid because you know
22:28
they're signing these deals without having lawyers look at
22:30
them or without having a team look at them that really knows
22:33
the, the, the front and back end of what they're getting into.
22:37
We are talking to former 8 year NFL safety TJ Ward, play for the
22:41
Browns, the Broncos and the Buccaneers.
22:43
TJ When you look at the safety position, you even look at the
22:46
linebacker position and the running back position. 3
22:50
positions that are not really respected the way they should be
22:53
in the NFL. You look at the money and where
22:55
it's divided into when it comes to the offensive lineman, the
22:59
tackles, the corners, the number one corners, the quarterbacks.
23:03
You look at these these three positions and I just think
23:06
they're just not treated with the respect that they deserve.
23:10
Why do you think the NFLGMS and executives don't respect those
23:15
positions as much as the the other positions I just
23:18
mentioned? That's a good question.
23:22
I think it's more of the direction of where the game is
23:26
going, right? When the game was really
23:28
physical and you were allowed to, you know, hit and do all
23:32
those things, then the linebackers were hided.
23:34
Everybody's running back was highlighted like the days of,
23:38
you know, early mad and where you had Priest Holmes, Jamal
23:42
Lewis, like early 2000s, like the running back was him.
23:45
It's because the game was so physical.
23:47
The linebackers were they they was were the guys, the DNS,
23:50
they're still the guys because they get after the quarterback.
23:53
But with it being such a passing league now and less physical
23:56
then you know who's who's getting the ball, the receivers,
23:59
who has to stop the pass, the corners.
24:01
So they're highlighted. You know, it's like the NBA
24:04
almost going to more that European less physical style.
24:07
Everything is less physical. Don't ask me why, but it is.
24:11
And that's what they're catering to and that's what who they're
24:14
marketing. Our executive producer wants us
24:16
to ask you this question. OK, So I'm going to ask it for
24:19
you. So and and we argue this all the
24:21
time. You played against these
24:23
quarterbacks. There's three quarterbacks, Ben
24:25
Roethlisberger, Eli Manning and Philip Rivers.
24:28
All three of them, I think are Hall of Farmers when you look at
24:31
what Philip Rivers did say. What?
24:34
I think all three of them are Hall of Farmers.
24:36
I think all three of them are Hall of Farmers statistics,
24:39
everything, everything they've done in the NFL and where they
24:42
came from. And and I know a lot of people
24:44
look at Phillip Rivers. Well, he never won a
24:45
championship. Dan Marino never won a
24:47
championship. There are a lot of quarterbacks
24:49
that never won a championship. Obviously the positions that
24:52
they were in and Phillip Rivers best chance to win a Super Bowl.
24:55
He was playing on a torn ACL. So and it was pretty amazing
24:59
what he did. I've argued this.
25:01
I had Steve White on this show and Steve Weich told me Philip
25:06
Rivers is not a Hall of Famer. And I went at him and then he
25:09
says Matthew Stafford is a is a better player to argue to go to
25:13
the Hall of Fame. And I said, how could you say
25:14
that when you look at Philip Rivers numbers and compare it to
25:17
Matthew Stafford, it's not even comparable.
25:19
OK. Your thoughts to these three
25:22
quarterbacks in order, who do you think goes to the Hall of
25:25
Fame, first, second and third and why?
25:30
I don't think any of them go and I don't think any of them
25:33
deserve to go. Keep it a book.
25:35
But I say if anyone's to go, we'd go be Eli first, probably.
25:40
He just has the he has the he has the brand, he has the name.
25:44
He has the most of the Super Bowls.
25:46
New York. He'd probably be the first to
25:50
go. Then it'd be Big Ben and Phillip
25:52
last. Interesting, Very interesting.
25:53
I was going to. Ask who?
25:57
The fish. Fish just come again here.
26:00
I think he wants to interject all this.
26:01
Way to go, TJ. That was get.
26:03
Off get him off the right answer you.
26:05
Know what? I'm just that's yeah.
26:08
I mean, what do you guys think? I think I just think that Eli is
26:13
closer. He may not have the numbers of
26:16
his being or or or. Reverse.
26:22
Is coming back the rivers, but. You guys beat the Chargers?
26:25
Man the chips, the chips and the name.
26:29
That's like you. Know you know it takes a team to
26:32
win. Every quarterback gets a Super
26:35
Bowl MVP. Stop this crowd.
26:37
True. Yes, it most of the time.
26:40
That's because the first time Ben Roethlisberger went to the
26:43
Super Bowl, he was practically a rookie.
26:46
And Hwy. was just like. Yes.
26:47
And so I don't want to hear that when you look at a team
26:50
football's Ultimate Team game, I am just looking at that.
26:54
I look at. I don't feel just because you're
26:58
one of the best quarterbacks in your organization that you
27:00
deserve to go to the Hall of Fame.
27:04
Drew Brees played for San Diego. Did he know?
27:06
But not very long. Yeah, but.
27:08
He's still, he's still playing with.
27:09
But Drew Brees is a St. Drew.
27:11
Everyone knows Drew Brees. Is he?
27:12
Was drafted by San Diego. He's the same.
27:15
Yeah, but he's the same for the. Brightest organization.
27:17
And he got a Super Bowl. TJ, I got something.
27:21
What? My team.
27:22
Stop it. Hold on.
27:26
Hold on, Hold on, Hold on, Hold on.
27:28
When you look at Peyton Manning in that run, do you?
27:30
You're going to tell me right now, Peyton Manning.
27:32
Peyton Manning is the reason why you guys won that Super Bowl.
27:35
I'm not saying he's the reason why we won, but he was a big
27:38
part of why we won. I'm telling you that, hey.
27:43
We all know PM was dealing with a lot of stuff that year, but
27:46
let me tell you, at the end of them games when we needed them
27:50
points, we was getting them points now.
27:53
Now the rest of the game, I don't know, I'm going.
27:55
To argue with you here. In the game we was getting them
27:58
first. Of all, in the starting of the
28:00
season, what really got you into player playoffs was Osweiler.
28:03
If you remember that, I know you do.
28:05
And then I thought. It came in and did his thing
28:07
too. That's what's the beauty of it.
28:09
Look, that's the beauty of our championship.
28:11
Like people always say, oh, such and such got hurt that we would
28:16
have won. We should have could have did
28:17
this because they got hurt every week did get hurt.
28:20
Everybody got hurt. I almost didn't even play in the
28:22
Super Bowl. I got kicked out.
28:24
Still got hurt in the AFC championship game.
28:26
That's why if you look at it, grunt went crazy towards the end
28:29
because we had we was down to no safeties.
28:31
We had like the bottom of our bench on defense.
28:35
So that's why that win is even better than people think.
28:37
Like everybody got hurt. Like Sly was hurt, The D tackle
28:42
man, everybody was hurt. He came into the Super Bowl
28:44
ripping. Sly's been on a show and he's a
28:46
great guy. Oh.
28:46
Yeah, my God, Sly, man. He's been on a show.
28:49
He and Sly got hurt on the same play versus the Patriots.
28:51
Yeah, he actually mentioned that.
28:53
He actually brought up the the injury that he had with you when
28:56
he when you guys ran into each other.
28:58
So he did mention it. I was like, I remember that.
29:01
But I'm just telling you, going back to that and the argument
29:05
over there, you say, well, yo, they won the chip.
29:08
They won the chip. The reason why you won that
29:10
championship was and that defensive line.
29:14
That defensive line was unbelievable, unbelievable,
29:19
unbelievable. And.
29:20
The next year, you guys drafted another friend of our show, Adam
29:22
Goat says. We met at the Super Bowl.
29:23
Oh. Yeah, Big Adam, Big God.
29:26
God's great dude too, man. Such a nice guy, man, really
29:29
down there. But you know what?
29:33
And who doesn't win with a good defense?
29:34
You got to have a good defense to win the Super Bowl.
29:37
Like you see the Eagles, that's why they won.
29:39
They wouldn't like Hertz was out there airing the ball out.
29:43
That defense was crazy. I.
29:45
Mean you got at least have a good pass rush.
29:47
For sure, for sure you got to. Always win if you got good D.
29:52
Yeah, man, every. Way.
29:54
Well, not even on the field. I always ask this because I'm an
29:56
offensive and defensive line high school coach up by West
29:59
Point area in New York. And I always, I always say like,
30:03
I want to have the D line get there because then my corners
30:06
don't have to cover for more than a couple of seconds and
30:09
then they look good and they get to make the turnovers and then
30:13
we win. You can't have a good secondary
30:15
if you don't have at least one guy getting home that has to
30:18
speed up that clock for that quarterback.
30:20
Man, after you can feel. Tough always likes to talk about
30:24
Philip Rivers completion percentage in this argument and
30:28
I always like his. What?
30:29
His completion percentage because you like to dink and
30:31
dunk? Yeah, man.
30:32
I'm going to tell you something about that.
30:33
Him and that Gates man. Like that was my biggest thing
30:36
with this Chargers like him and Gates would just sit there and
30:40
do this. And you know, Gates is a wide
30:42
bodied Hall of Famer. I couldn't get around him.
30:45
He was so wide, but like down the field, you know, it was
30:48
better. I could cut, but like the short
30:50
little 3rd and I knew they was doing it third and four, they're
30:53
going to run a pivot and just and I couldn't get around them.
30:56
But I just think when we played them, Elise Phillip just threw
31:00
too many interceptions. Like we knew he was getting
31:02
coming home with something. You don't like Phil, All right,
31:05
That's fine. It's it's OK.
31:06
No. We don't like Phil.
31:08
We don't. I knew we.
31:09
Don't like Phil? I knew like I knew I.
31:12
Knew it one of these days. Hey, no Phil love Phil, man.
31:15
Actually we love Phil because Phil talks shit and as a thief,
31:18
as a player, you love that from like quarterbacks and stuff.
31:21
So really him and Chris would be chirping all the time.
31:24
Him and Chris Harris, they would be at back and forth all day.
31:27
They like they had like a four year romance.
31:32
Now the real question did Phillip Rivers talk talk not a.
31:35
Romance. It's a bromance.
31:37
Did. Phillip Rivers talk more shit to
31:38
the refs or the players. That's the real question.
31:43
Man, that's that is a good question.
31:45
I don't know. I don't know.
31:48
It seems like he was always getting heat at the end of the
31:49
game. Always.
31:52
All I was saying is Eli seemed to make all the big could you?
31:55
Stop with the giant crap. This is what are we talking
31:59
about the Giants all the time. This.
32:00
We're talking to a Brock you. Know we're we're we're we're TJ
32:03
that are joining. The charger.
32:06
All right, and why are we talking this this conversation,
32:08
it all of a sudden sways to the Giants and Eli May just because.
32:11
He didn't agree with you and. I don't listen.
32:14
He doesn't like Phillip Rivers. That's fine.
32:16
That's great. Most people don't.
32:18
That don't people, Most people don't.
32:19
It's not about liking. It's just.
32:23
I don't think most people agree with you on that.
32:25
That's. Fine.
32:26
And that's why, that's why I got my own opinion and that's why I
32:29
think Phillip Rivers, out of all three of them, is the better
32:31
quarterback. You think he was always talking
32:33
shit? I didn't.
32:34
Say you didn't ask me who was a better quarterback, you asked me
32:37
who I think was going to the Hall.
32:38
No, I, I said, no, I, I know people are going to argue that
32:41
because, but if, if it was up to me and I, I would look at all
32:45
three quarterbacks and my, my thought on who the better
32:48
quarterback, I, I would see Philip Rivers was #1 Ben
32:51
Roethlisberger was #2 Eli Manning was #3 they're going to
32:54
look at Eli Manning because he won the two chips, he won the
32:57
two MVPS. He's a Manning.
32:59
They're going to look at that Like you were saying, it's all
33:02
about the name Eli. Probably go to the Hall of Fame
33:04
before both of these guys. I think all three of them are
33:07
going to the Hall of Fame. They very, very much well
33:10
deserved. And and we we just mentioned Tom
33:12
Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger,
33:16
Philip Rivers, Eli Manning. You're talking about 6 of the
33:19
greatest quarterbacks of all time, and you played against all
33:23
of them. Yeah.
33:25
Man, tough pickings. You had to have a really.
33:28
Good recruiter for your defense. Maybe this guy showed up at you
33:32
guys houses to try to help build that defense.
33:35
Man, that that's that's a real. Hopefully he wasn't.
33:38
Wearing any of that outfit? Special.
33:41
Specialty is field hockey at pickleball.
33:47
Hey, TJ, his. Fits are terrible, son.
33:53
Hey, that's a real fit. Too like we're this isn't the
33:56
other ones are but the the blue blazer, red shirt and camo pants
34:00
that is for real. God hey you in between, you bout
34:06
to go on vacation after work? Everybody.
34:11
Kicking with the. Bullet, we love Nithin.
34:14
Nithin is just a dude. He wears this blue blazer
34:16
everywhere he goes when he goes to these events, and I always
34:19
tell him, I always tell him, why don't you just get every single
34:22
athlete to sign the blue blazer until he completely covered an
34:26
autograph and then frame it. This guy will not do it every
34:30
single event. Everybody knows him.
34:32
I call him the blue blazer because he wears that blue
34:34
blazer no matter where he goes. It is the funniest thing uniform
34:38
now, man, it's. Uniform Wait, mark you.
34:41
Got to have a trademark, definitely.
34:44
Recognition. That's what you call brand
34:46
recognition right there. But then he also has his other.
34:50
Trademark his world class leash. Oh, we we got.
34:53
We've got a lot of different classes.
34:55
Have you already? I'm putting you on a leash now.
34:57
Breaking news, Goody has no woody bagel hole.
35:01
I am a legend. Yum Yum butt plug I want.
35:05
To hit it my pinky. Is bigger than.
35:07
Yours blow. My back out.
35:10
Jabba takes it up the ass. My rear end is burning.
35:14
Scoop sits on the shitter. Pass Liquor.
35:17
Duty Dodger. What's the new Carl?
35:20
One you have so. Much What was the new Carl one?
35:24
Oh, this? One this one Carl plays with
35:26
himself. That's.
35:31
One of our fans. What is weather app?
35:37
No, it's our soundboard. We got a soundboard.
35:39
It's great. I use it for the.
35:41
I do it for the. I got to get one of those.
35:43
Where'd you get that from? Well, you got to get an.
35:45
IPad and then you download an app and you have to pay for the
35:48
app and and then you put Oh yeah, so it's the app that's.
35:51
What you say it'll send you all his drops?
35:53
Soundboard it's in. Remembrance.
35:59
Soundboard everything is an. App Buddy and it's a soundboard
36:04
app that's what it is now listen it's good for both it's good for
36:08
Ollie whopper speedy hey, I need you well I.
36:10
Need one too. So I got to hook you up man.
36:13
We'll. Hook you up, I think it said you
36:14
all his drops. He he made a ball.
36:16
I am a disturbing person. Oh, we oh, we could go.
36:19
We could go to Jabba. These are good.
36:21
You ready? Ready.
36:22
Here, Jabba. Here we go.
36:23
I'll let you lick my butt. I gave up the booty there.
36:27
I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
36:30
Hold on, like I always gave up the booty.
36:33
Oh my. God, wow, hold on, hold on.
36:37
It's in context though. TJ when I gave up the game, this
36:40
makes my pecker hard. You just made my nipples hard,
36:43
pulled it out of my ass. As long as she's using dude
36:45
wipes and taking care of my 2 hole I'm good.
36:49
That's what's his name, huh? What's that baseball show he's.
36:56
Bounding down screw. The Baseball Show Kenny.
36:58
Powers. We've got the powers.
37:01
We've got the best show here, man.
37:02
Stop. Stop bringing other shows, man.
37:04
Screw. Oh, my bad.
37:05
My bad. My.
37:06
Bad no that. Was a TV show from years ago,
37:09
yeah. By the way.
37:10
Bill Simmons, idiot. That's all I'm going to say.
37:13
You sound like your guy off. Your soundboard?
37:16
Yeah. HBO, Will Ferrell.
37:19
That's right. He's the car salesman.
37:23
If you ever get a chance. That's like some of the funniest
37:25
bloopers of all time. Is the Will Ferrell Kenny Powers
37:29
eastbound. Oh.
37:30
Man, stand down, bloopers. That that's you just never stop
37:33
laughing. Watch that.
37:33
I watch it every once. In a while you mess.
37:36
With baseball, yeah, a little bit.
37:39
I'm up man. Look a little bit I'm I'm
37:43
learning more and more but not growing up, but definitely
37:47
something I'm my son is interested in in doing so got to
37:52
get the game can't. Hit the game right.
37:55
You can't hit any game, as we all know.
37:58
But anyways, TJ, we love you, man.
38:00
You got to come on the show more often, man.
38:02
Man, I had a ball. Honestly, this was cool.
38:04
Oh well, we appreciate you even sitting.
38:07
And hanging out with us for an hour.
38:08
I mean, you've been on for an hour, man.
38:10
And I know you were a little busy and you popped on, but I we
38:14
really appreciate you just joining us and giving us the
38:16
time, buddy. No doubt man, appreciate you
38:20
having me. I'll come back on anytime man
38:22
let me know football season coming you'll see me doing a
38:25
couple little things so I'll have a drop for y'all.
38:28
Hey post my drop we. Will, as a matter of fact, I
38:32
want you to do something before you go.
38:34
I want you to say you are listening to Jabba and the
38:38
Mouth. Say that you are listening.
38:41
Hold on, you got. To You got to say this is TJ
38:44
Ward. OK, Yeah, Say this is TJ Ward.
38:48
You're listening to the best show in America, Jabba in the
38:51
mouth. Let's hear it, yo.
38:53
This is TJ Ward. You're listening to the best
38:56
show in America. Jabba in the mouth.
38:58
I love it. We.
38:59
Love you. There you go, boss man.
39:02
Tell the fans how they could find you on social media.
39:05
Yeah, at Boss Ward 40. Three Everything X Instagram
39:10
TikTok. Yeah, that's it.
39:13
TikTok. How many TikTok?
39:14
Followers you have. Man, I'm still, I tried to get
39:18
into it for a little bit and I was doing it and I kind of
39:21
backed off. It's just, it's not my cup of
39:23
tea, man. I'm trying, but hold on, it's
39:25
too much. Wants to.
39:26
Come in for a little bit. What up?
39:29
TJ. What's good?
39:31
Yo, what's up my? God, how you?
39:32
Been man, I'm great. I can't.
39:34
Complain. How are you?
39:36
Good. Good.
39:36
Thank you for joining. The show, man, this great
39:39
episode hey man, yeah for. Sure, yeah.
39:44
He's not wearing his blue blazer, so we're in good shape.
39:46
Oh, come on, come on, come on. Nathan's on his way back from.
39:52
A recruiting trip you. Have.
39:56
To do a tickle, you have to do a tickle ball recruits.
40:00
I'm actually. I'm actually hosting an event on
40:04
Monday with one of the biggest Long Island recruits in 25
40:07
years, Preston Carey, where he's going to make an announcement
40:10
where he's going. So be there.
40:12
I'll be going. Yeah, so it'll be.
40:14
Cool. It'll be the first one I've ever
40:15
been hosting, so it'll be cool. It'll be cool.
40:18
So sweet. Anyways.
40:20
TJ Oh, I'm cute, you know. There he is.
40:23
There's Preston. OK, Yeah. 6 foot.
40:26
Six. Wait, where are you hosting it?
40:27
100 lbs. I'm not watching it.
40:29
I'm going. I'm.
40:30
I'm going to be hosting the events.
40:33
Oh, I know, I know. But where at though?
40:34
The Eureka Castle. The Eureka Castle.
40:38
Oh, good. In Long Islands.
40:39
Wow. You want to come, Nathan?
40:43
He doesn't leave Jersey. This is a Jersey man if.
40:48
He's got to work if he's got to work.
40:50
On his field hockey recruiting. I've got one.
40:55
I got 1. You ready?
40:56
Hold on. We're going to find one here.
40:58
Breaking news. Goody has no Woody.
41:02
Breaking news, hot ladies. TJ, before we let you go,
41:09
Nathan, Nathan, we, we were like conversating about what's the
41:13
craziest thing he would do to a woman.
41:14
You know what he told us? Nathan?
41:16
Tell him. Oh, my God.
41:17
Tell him what? You told us.
41:20
Tell them, Tell him what you told us.
41:23
Oh God, you. You could just play on the
41:25
soundboard. He he told us that if he had the
41:29
opportunity to take a woman out, he would put a leash on her and
41:33
take her for a walk. Oh, wow.
41:41
Yeah, that's Nathan. That's Nathan for you, TJ.
41:48
You guys. Wow.
41:54
Anyways, TJ, we love you. Thank you for joining us, bud.
41:57
No problem, appreciate. It man talk to you soon.
42:00
Former 8 year. NFL safety, Browns, Broncos,
42:05
Buccaneers, 2010 to 2017, the one and only TJ Ward.
42:10
Thank you, Nathan, for fucking us up.
42:11
He was great, fantastic. And he and he gave us a lot of
42:15
good takes. And now he knows that you're an
42:17
absolute weirdo. So we're good.
42:20
Come on, you're crazy. I already admit it.
42:28
Anybody that knows me, everybody that knows me knows I'm crazy
42:32
and I'm weird. I don't think it's hidden.
42:34
ESPN Pablo Torre did a report on a potential collision case with
42:41
the NFLA report that was 61 pages relating to the NFL
42:46
limiting restriction guaranteed money on contracts.
42:51
There was a ruling by an independent arbitrator named
42:54
Chris Droni back in January that there was no collusion, but
43:00
Tory's report shows that several owners might of coordinated to
43:05
reduce guaranteed money. This case came about in about in
43:10
the NFL Owners owners ownership meeting in March 2022 after the
43:15
Browns gave to Sean Watson a fully guaranteed five year, $230
43:20
million contract. Roni added that all 32 NFL
43:23
owners were encouraged to reduce guaranteed contracts to
43:28
veterans, and Roger Goodell was on board with it even though he
43:33
couldn't find any direct collusion.
43:36
The NFL Player Players Association accused the NFL of
43:40
violating Section 17 of the CBA, which prohibits teams from
43:46
entering any agreements with the league or other teams when
43:51
negotiating deals with their players.
43:54
They mentioned Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson and Kyla Murray
43:58
failing to get the guaranteed money they wanted on their deals
44:03
as evidence of potential collusion and even showed Lamar
44:08
Jackson S phone being destroyed as evidence.
44:12
John Mara said it was ridiculous to believe that Jerry Jones or
44:17
any other owner would have contract contacted him about
44:21
influencing on the guaranteed money on the big contracts that
44:27
DAC Prescott got. However, some owners including
44:31
Robert Kraft have mentioned Roger Goodell has contacted them
44:35
about guaranteed money on big contracts and Speedy was all
44:39
over the place with this. But here's the honest truth.
44:43
Roger Goodell is a cold hearted ass and this man has not helped
44:48
anybody. What when you look at the NFL
44:50
right now with the money they should be giving to people not
44:54
playing players that have put their bodies on the line.
44:57
The the knee injuries, the head injuries, the trauma that these
45:01
guys have gone through over the years with the CTE and all these
45:05
destructional things that have happened to these guys lives and
45:09
not get full benefits after walking away from the game and
45:13
only got $100 million. Just shows you how bad of a
45:16
Rodger Goodell is. And now you're hearing about
45:18
collusion of money and guaranteed money and Lamar
45:21
Jackson getting screwed or was that they were trying to screw
45:25
Lamar Jackson. Just tells you one thing about
45:28
the NFL and how bad the NFL is when it comes to taking care of
45:31
their own players. Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson,
45:35
Kyla Murray, all guys Now, Kyla Murray and Russell Wilson are
45:38
two not very nice guys. Kyla Murray, who talks in the
45:41
third person, and Russell Wilson, who we've heard through
45:45
many different people, we've had guys on her show that love him.
45:48
Russell Wilson is an on and off badass who likes to screw, you
45:53
know, movie stars or musicians like Sierra.
45:56
The fact is, is the NFL Association is like being
45:59
accused violing Section 17 of the CBA.
46:03
Now I don't I don't read contracts.
46:05
I don't read the CBA and the laws and the rules.
46:09
What I do know is these guys deserve every bit of the money
46:13
that they get. These guys are the best players
46:15
on the field. These are the guys that are
46:17
running the the huddle. These are the guys that are
46:20
throwing the ball and putting their bodies on the line.
46:22
Now the offensive lineman to same thing with the running
46:25
backs. Why aren't the running backs
46:26
making the money they deserve? Saquan Barkley got the biggest
46:29
contract in NFL history this offseason.
46:32
Why? It wasn't because of the NFL.
46:34
It was because the Philadelphia Eagles realized this guy helped
46:38
them win a Super Bowl. This guy had a chance to break
46:40
Eric Dickerson S record in a season and decided to sit out
46:45
the final game so he could be healthy for the playoffs.
46:48
That tells me how great and how important A-Team needs to be to
46:53
win a championship. Roger Goodell is making 55 or
46:57
$58,000,000 right now. He has his own jet.
47:00
Him and his family have medical bills paid for the rest of their
47:03
lives if he steps away from the game.
47:05
You tell me a football player that has those kind of deals.
47:08
You tell me, a football player that has their own jet besides
47:12
the ones that are making hundreds of millions of dollars,
47:15
none of them go ask Boomer Asiasin, that's a play by play
47:19
guy right now. He didn't make enough money in
47:21
those times to survive Joe Montana going and doing all
47:25
these autographed signings. So he'd stayed afloat.
47:27
Stay afloat or on commercials or all these different commercials
47:31
that he's in because he needs to make ends meet because he didn't
47:34
make it in the time and obviously the game was a
47:37
completely different game at the time.
47:39
These players are making tons and tons of money.
47:41
These owners are making tons and tons of money.
47:43
These executives are making tons and tons of money.
47:46
The fact is, the NFL need to figure out what is good and what
47:52
is right by what the rules show it to be.
47:55
And I don't think the NFL is following that.
47:57
And I think the CBA and the NFL and Rodger Goodell are a bunch
48:01
of assholes. Yeah, and it screws a lot of
48:04
these other. Players over too, when you have
48:05
to force certain contract incentives in order to get in,
48:08
obviously you're happy that the these players are making money
48:11
like especially with the quarterbacks, they're getting a
48:12
lot of money. But again, if Kyler Murray,
48:15
let's say the percentage of the guaranteed contract he didn't
48:17
get at the time, it might have was a little higher until the
48:21
ownership or the other ownership swayed it or Rodger Goodell
48:24
swayed it because they're the Chargers owner.
48:27
Spanos actually was saying that there was actual contact with
48:30
the Cardinals owner before they gave him that $260 million deal,
48:34
which at the time I thought was a lot.
48:35
And obviously he's been injury prone since then.
48:37
So it hasn't worked. But maybe the guarantee money,
48:39
if there was a similar percentage, it would have been
48:41
less. So maybe the Cardinals could
48:42
have paid somebody else a little more.
48:44
Maybe they could have kept more of their players from that core
48:46
that made the couple playoff appearances instead of having to
48:49
rebuild and tear everything down around Kyler Murray and now
48:52
they're still trying to work their way back up.
48:54
And then Spanos said with Justin Herberts contract, many owners
48:58
were saying don't give them this amount of guarantee money and
49:00
maybe that's why it took a while for Justin Herbert.
49:03
He signed right the start of the season in 2023 after Joe Burrow
49:06
signed. So you're looking at a case
49:08
where maybe that could have been avoided and other players will
49:11
have to suffer not being able to get that.
49:12
Like you said, running backs, linebackers, safeties that don't
49:15
get paid as much money are going to be getting that.
49:17
Now we've seen better percentages.
49:18
Christian McCaffrey on his contract, I think got 17 of the
49:21
18,000,000 and guaranteed on his extension, which is fine, but
49:25
you want to see more of that overtime with all these
49:27
positions too. And it just sucks the way
49:29
they're doing. How about DeMarcus Russell?
49:30
Remember when he was drafted, how much money did he make?
49:33
How long was the NFL and in the NFL, did he deserve the money
49:37
that he got? And after that, after him and
49:39
Sam Bradford, what did the NFL do when it came to draft and
49:43
quarterbacks and getting paid the top money?
49:45
They changed it. They changed the CBA.
49:47
Why? Because they didn't like what
49:49
these quarterbacks were making and not providing enough on the
49:52
football field. That's the problem right now,
49:55
the NFL and it's I don't, I don't, I know everybody wants to
49:58
say it's collusion or this and that.
50:00
It's not collusion. The NFL is run by the owners who
50:04
who helps the owners come out with these laws in these these
50:07
these rules, The one and only Roger Goodell.
50:10
Roger Goodell has his hands dipped in everything.
50:12
As long as the owners are happy with Roger Goodell, Roger
50:16
Goodell doesn't care who he's screwing and what he is doing.
50:19
When it comes down to it, that's what Roger Goodell is all about.
50:23
And that's why Roger Goodell is not liked by any player.
50:25
Ask anybody that comes on our show.
50:27
Ask any ex player that talks about Roger Goodell what they
50:31
really want to say about him and they don't.
50:33
They don't like him because he's a piece of garbage and he
50:36
doesn't care about the players. He cares only what the owners
50:39
tell him to care about. Yeah, I think, I think Trevor.
50:41
Price was the only player that was like, kind of neutral on
50:43
him. Yeah, you know why?
50:45
Because him. And Roger could tell about us,
50:46
right? But truth, understandably.
50:48
There's going to be some relationships.
50:49
They're going to have that, but they are.
50:50
But going back to like, it's also funny that he actually had
50:53
some funny things. Sorry, Trevor, but you know
50:54
it's. True, he actually has some funny
50:56
things to say. About Lamar Jackson's contract
50:57
at the time too, when he cited but nevertheless, let me.
51:00
Ask Trevor now what he thinks about Lamar Jackson's contract.
51:03
Let's hear it. He was more, he was more taking
51:05
a shot. To the fact that his mom was his
51:06
agent or something like that, who cares, she's the best.
51:08
Quarterback in the NFL, that's what this is about.
51:11
Though is that Goodell screwed Lamar Jackson?
51:14
Yeah, he did. Specifically Lamar Jackson,
51:16
because the contract for Deshaun Watson was the last big contract
51:20
right before Lamar's. And because, look, we remember
51:25
the history of this. They didn't ever had guaranteed
51:27
money in the NFL. Why?
51:29
Because they didn't want to have to pay aging veterans like the
51:33
Jacoby Ellsberries of the world. The Yankees had to pay for years
51:36
and it didn't ever play. The Carl Pavanos, Seattle and
51:39
Robertson cut those guys in football, in baseball and not
51:44
pay them. In football you can.
51:46
So what did football do? They had the big signing bonuses
51:49
right up front so you would get the upfront money to make up for
51:52
the fact you weren't getting the guaranteed money.
51:55
Then the idiot Brown's owner decided to do both and up and
51:59
the entire system. So Goodell had to step in and
52:02
try to right the ship and bring that guaranteed money back down.
52:06
He absolutely colluded. They said he did, the arbitrator
52:09
said he did, but everyone kind of realized the Browns were
52:13
stupid and he kind of should have colluded in this situation
52:16
and fixed this situation. It's still screwed Lamar Jackson
52:19
though. He asked what Pablo Torre
52:21
unearthed that they admitted that he colluded and they still
52:24
didn't punish the NFL anyway. They allowed the case to go to
52:27
the NFL, not the NFLPAS way, the NFL that.
52:31
First of all, the NFL and Rodger Goodell got away with Spygates.
52:34
They've gotten away with everything.
52:36
And then they went after Tom Brady because of Deflategate.
52:39
And Deflategate was absolutely ridiculous.
52:41
It was redundant from what? Spygates really screwed the
52:45
rims. The Rams should have won that
52:46
Super Bowl. They should have won that Super
52:48
Bowl, but Bill Belichick cheated and there was tape on it.
52:51
And what did they? What did Rodger Goodell do?
52:53
Because he was Robert Kraft's fisherman buddy.
52:56
He got rid of the tapes. He burned the tapes.
52:58
Why? Nobody knows and nobody saw it
53:01
but the NFL and the executives of the Patriots.
53:04
What a bunch of bull crap and honest to God truth.
53:08
Roger Goodell is only there still is because he's everybody,
53:12
every owner's butt buddy. He's probably bending over over
53:15
there on a round table while everybody's butt fucking him in
53:18
the ass. That's the truth.
53:20
And I will say the word because it's true.
53:22
Roger Goodell bends over and he gets it in the ass by every one
53:26
of those owners. Every one of those owners.
53:29
Because in the end, as long as he's making $58,000,000 and him
53:33
and his boys and his family and his wife has lifetime of
53:37
insurance and his own goddamn jet, he will do whatever it
53:41
takes. Including let Jerry Jones stick
53:44
an 8 ball up his ass. OK?
53:46
It's absolutely ridiculous and honestly, I will stick up for
53:51
the NFL players. I think Roger Goodell is a piece
53:54
of garbage. He should be absolutely thrown
53:57
to the walls, thrown to the dogs.
53:59
ABBA, why don't we reach out to Michael Vick and let him have
54:02
his slickers and slacks on that piece of garbage?
54:04
It's even. That one off the rails.
54:07
It's even getting to the point. Where we haven't seen a lot of
54:10
these owners like really challenge him to the same level
54:12
since we talked about it a few weeks ago.
54:13
The late Jim Ursay, who did have a couple things to say about
54:16
Goodell later in his later in his career.
54:18
And now you're he's the only one that was honest.
54:21
Right. And now you're seeing but even.
54:22
We're seeing now in this instance some of the other older
54:25
school owners turning on him too, probably besides Jerry
54:27
Jones. But John Mayra did.
54:29
Robert Kraft did. Like you're saying, they had a
54:31
good relationship with the past. But now even Robert Kraft is
54:33
admitting, oh, we were negotiating deals, the Patriots
54:35
in that 2021 offseason when they spent a lot of money and they
54:38
were saying, oh, don't give him this much guarantee.
54:40
Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you an honest
54:42
question, Jimmer say that story came out about the Viking Inns
54:46
and all that other stuff. When did it come out?
54:49
When did the story come out? When he was a drug addict and it
54:53
just came out of nowhere and it popped.
54:55
It was when. He said.
54:57
What? When he said what when he
54:59
attacked Roger Goodell and the NFL, it was weeks before that
55:04
story came out that this Jim Ursay was popping pills and
55:09
doing all the the garbage that he was doing.
55:12
Why do you how do you think that came out?
55:13
It wasn't, it wasn't executive. It wasn't the team.
55:16
This guy's the owner. Nobody was throwing him under
55:18
the bus. Of course it was the NFL.
55:19
It was Roger Goodell because Roger Goodell screwed 11 Chucky.
55:25
What's going on right now with Chucky right now?
55:27
He can't get a job in college. He can't get a job in the NFL.
55:32
Why do you think Chucky can't get a job?
55:34
Because Roger Goodell and Schneider threw this man under
55:39
the bus while fifty other executives and coaches were on
55:43
that e-mail and it never came out.
55:45
It never came out, still hasn't come out, and they paid Chucky
55:49
to keep his mouth shut when the truth really is Roger Goodell
55:54
threw Chucky to the wolves because Chucky was the one that
55:57
stood up to Roger Freaking Goodell.
55:59
Chucky lost his job with the Raiders.
56:01
Chucky couldn't even get a job right now at college.
56:04
He's coaching high school ball. OK?
56:06
It's absolutely pathetic. Roger Goodell is a piece of
56:10
freaking crap. That's what he is.
56:12
And I will say it proudly, and I don't give a crap if anybody in
56:16
the NFL don't like it. He's a piece of crap.
56:19
And that's the way he should be treated.
56:20
He should be treated like every single player.
56:23
He's treated like garbage over the years.
56:25
All those people, all those kids that have CTE, have brain
56:29
trauma, knee problems can help them, medical problems.
56:32
All these players that have been on this show that have told us
56:35
the NFL hasn't stood behind them after all those years of giving
56:39
their bodies on the line. And that is because of Roger
56:42
freaking Goodell, $100 million. You're going to pay the players
56:46
that have given their bodies, put their bodies on the line for
56:49
over 50 years, $100 million when you're making $58,000,000 a
56:54
year. Shame on you, Roger Goodell.
56:56
Shame on the NFL. It's a piece of shit.
56:59
That's what it is. The NFL is an organization
57:03
burning a hole in every single sponsorship to take, take, take,
57:07
take, take as they have been doing for over 30 freaking
57:12
years. And I have my thoughts to the
57:14
NFL because I know what the NFL did to me when I went to the
57:17
Super Bowl in Miami. I know what they did when I had
57:21
my I had the, I had everything. I was ready with credentials.
57:25
And I go up to the table and they tell me, oh, we lost your
57:28
credentials. I don't know.
57:29
I don't know what happened to it.
57:31
I know what happened to it. Roger Goodell and that those
57:34
stupid executives, they don't know nothing and they don't
57:37
really want the truth coming out.
57:38
Well, guess what? I will spin it.
57:41
I will shake it. And you know every single one of
57:44
those owners will be sticking it to Mr. Goodell every single time
57:48
they're around that stupid, ugly round table, wasn't it Robert
57:52
Turbin? When he had him on the show that
57:53
said his insurance, another one was was literally expiring the
57:57
day after we had him on the show.
57:59
Absolutely, yeah. Like it was bad.
58:01
Pathetic. It's bad, but the.
58:03
Worst part is, too the better the NFL does, the more money
58:07
Goodell makes. It's it's absolutely.
58:09
Pathetic. It's it's crazy.
58:11
That's that's why he. Has the job for so long though,
58:13
right? He's made the owners a butt load
58:16
of money. Like you keep paying that guy to
58:19
do it. If he keeps making you money at
58:20
that, that's just an investment for these owners.
58:24
I mean, he seems like a very, I mean, the fakest smile you've
58:27
ever seen. Like a politician.
58:29
I mean, this guy's basically a politician for the NFL.
58:33
That's what he is. I'm sorry.
58:34
To curse the way I am on this show more more than a
58:37
commissioner though. Right.
58:38
He's a politician, him and Rob. Manfred are the two worst
58:42
commissioners and Adam Silver's not even a commissioner.
58:45
That's the LJA. LeBron James is the commissioner
58:48
and and Adam Silver's his puppet.
58:51
He's his ugly Dumbo puppet over there.
58:54
The only commissioner right now in professional sports that
58:57
really stands out to know what he's doing.
58:59
It's crazy to say, is the one that gets booed every time he
59:01
goes up and he announces who? Welcome to the NHL draft, Gary
59:06
freaking Bettman. He's the only one that goes out
59:09
out there and does the right thing for their organizations.
59:11
Every one of the other idiots, they're all for themselves and
59:14
the owners. What a piece of garbage.
59:17
I'm done with this. Please, let's move on.
59:19
I am. I'm done.
59:20
I am so angry at all these. You had to bring the story up.
59:24
I cared. Stand Roger Goodell.
59:26
I can't stand the way the NFL treats the players.
59:28
We've had them on the show. I've stood behind the players
59:31
and I will continue. I don't care if the NFL don't
59:32
like it, Screw them. They don't have to listen to it,
59:35
but they know I'm telling the truth.
59:38
I'm not high. Can we get a blood pressure
59:39
ticker that we put on? Here I'll check.
59:42
It out. I'll check it out when we go to
59:46
break. Screw the NFL next.
59:49
Listen my vein. Always pops out.
59:51
I'll tell you where another vein pops out, but I can't say it on
59:53
live radio. Congratulations to Mr. Goody as
59:56
he is doing his first Guardian postgame and pregame show.
1:00:00
So looking forward to checking that out on Saturday and his
1:00:04
first color with the Guardian too.
1:00:06
So he'll be doing a couple of those this coming season with
1:00:09
Colorado and all the other games that he's going to be doing
1:00:12
with. So congratulations to our boy
1:00:14
Nick Goody Tell. Andre not.
1:00:17
He can suck it. I will.
1:00:20
I love him by the way he's. The best.
1:00:22
I love him too. I'll tell him he's awesome.
1:00:25
Again, thank you. He is.
1:00:26
Thank you to TJ Ward. He was fantastic for the time
1:00:29
that he gave us. I know he's a busy dude, so
1:00:31
thank you to him. And he's he has his own agency.
1:00:33
He's doing all these great thing since he's walked away from the
1:00:36
game of football. Thank you to all the fans.
1:00:39
And by the way, we do have Apple video, which speedy didn't
1:00:42
really give us any information. So we do have Apple video,
1:00:46
ladies and gentlemen, so you can check us out on Apple video,
1:00:50
Spotify video, Apple audio, Spotify audio on TikTok, on
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Facebook, on Instagram, on Odd X on YouTube, Jabba in the mouth.
1:01:04
Thank you to all the fans tuning in and checking us out on all
1:01:06
the social medias and all the different platforms where we are
1:01:10
on speedy. What do we have next week?
1:01:12
So Nathan had a guest. For Thursday, but if we're
1:01:15
moving to Wednesday, we'll see if he comes on.
1:01:16
Otherwise, I don't have anything yet.
1:01:18
Who was it going to be? Bengals and X.
1:01:20
Bengals and Titans receiver Carl Pickens.
1:01:22
I'm sure he will. Yeah, I'm sure he won't be able
1:01:24
to reschedule him for one of. Those days I don't have anyone
1:01:27
else at the moment. I actually have two guests
1:01:28
already scheduled for the week after already.
1:01:30
Who's that? So we have.
1:01:31
A Knicks guy. Ben Lyons.
1:01:33
Oh, no, Ben. Yep.
1:01:34
So Ben will be joining. Us on Ben's good man, he's one.
1:01:36
Of the better Knick writers, yes, he'll be joining us on.
1:01:39
Monday at 9:00 and then returning the show on Thursday
1:01:43
will be our friend Phoenix Suns and Dallas Cowboys broadcaster
1:01:46
Kevin Ray will be joining us at 95.
1:01:49
Kevin's finally joining us again.
1:01:51
I'm sure he has his own opinion about his Phoenix Suns.
1:01:55
That'll be fun. He's actually he's the Cowboys
1:01:58
play by play guy on the radio. He is.
1:02:00
He is honest to, he's the honest, most honest person when
1:02:04
it comes to Cowboys football. So he's not going to beat around
1:02:07
the Bush with the Cowboys. And I'm sure he has his thoughts
1:02:10
to the organization and what they did at this year's draft,
1:02:13
which everybody thinks they had a good draft.
1:02:15
I thought they did, actually, yeah.
1:02:17
So it'll be interesting. So anyways, again, thank you to
1:02:20
all the fans, thank you to everybody.
1:02:21
Keep tuning in. We will be on next week Tuesday
1:02:24
and Wednesday and we're moving our show the week after from now
1:02:28
on and we're staying that way Mondays and Wednesdays moving
1:02:33
forward as the football season is moving closer and closer.
1:02:39
Until then, this is Errol, Jabba, Nick Fish, Tommy, Speedy
1:02:45
and all you mongrels and all our interns, Zach, Aaron, Jake,
1:02:50
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