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Heal Yourself Naturally — with Holistic Health Practitioner Louise Peyton · UK Column Radio

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Hello everyone, this is Diane Rasmussen Mccarry with UK
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Column. I'm really happy to be joined
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today by Louise Payton. She is a registered nurse as
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well as a holistic health practitioner.
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I first met with her at the Thetford Truth and Freedom
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Festival that I attended a couple of weeks ago.
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Louise, welcome to UK Column. It's really again great to have
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you here today. Do you maybe want to tell us a
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little bit more about yourself please?
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Hello, Thank you so much for inviting me, Diane, and it was
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lovely to meet you. Yeah, so I've been nursing
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qualified in 1982. I did nursing auxiliary work
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before that from 1978. And so, you know, well over 40
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years of nursing, I've seen a lot of changes.
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I've worked in a lot of different places, hospitals,
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community hospitals, care homes, prison work and I currently do a
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home based telephone clinician job giving advice and clinical
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triage to a variety of different companies.
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I seen so many changes in nursing in that time, not
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necessarily for the better. I started doing complementary
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therapies in the mid 90s. So again, alongside the nursing,
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I have always had an interest in natural medicine and now leading
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towards my retirement from nursing, I would just want to
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focus more on complementary alternative holistic therapies
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and my artwork that I do. So it's been quite a journey,
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quite buried. I've learned a lot of things, a
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lot of therapies, and yeah, it's been quite a journey.
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Certainly sounds like it. Where did you do your training?
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The nurse training was in Royal Tunbridge Wells very because I
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started off at the West Suffolk Hospital.
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But when I went to do my training I went to Royal
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Tunbridge Wells and we did part of our training at the Kenton
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Sussex Hospital and part at Pembrey Hospital.
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I believe that may well have changed now, but that's what it
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was like back in 1980 etcetera. And there were some very old
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fashioned strict Nightingale wards there on, on some of the
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the places that we worked with very, very extremely strict
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sisters that I have to say the strange thing was because I was
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always good at doing what I was told.
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Excuse me. And on those strictest wards
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where you could literally hear a pin drop, I got the most glowing
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reports having done three months on each of those units.
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So the training was quite tough actually.
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I remember writing letters back to my old colleagues and saying
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oh it's really tough, but I got through it and I learned a lot.
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I don't think the training is quite like that these days.
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But it was a very rewarding, interesting sort of journey
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again. And you learnt straight,
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straight off the off the bat really.
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You kind of did six weeks training three months on a year
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on a ward. You go back to study blocks, but
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a lot of your time was hands on doing the work right from the
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start and if you didn't like that in the first few weeks,
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there were some that left they would know straight away.
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Plus I'd had about 18 months experience working with elderly
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before I even applied to do my nurse training where I was even
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doing last offices on patients at 18 years old.
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So, and you had the, the training in the hospital even
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for that, you know, being, being a, they call them care
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assistants now, but they've been nursing auxiliaries back then.
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So what do you think are some of the differences?
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And from our previous discussion, it sounds like
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they're quite significant, the difference between what you
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experienced when you were training compared to what
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today's new nurses are are doing in their training.
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I've been, I understand. Well, it's all degree based now.
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It's very academic. And I don't know what their
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syllabus cried to, you know, if the training is now, but I know
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that because it's more like degree academic based.
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And I find a lot of nurses newly qualified, they want to go on to
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other roles completely. They don't actually want to be
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the nurse on the floor as it used to be.
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They want to go straight to management that that's their
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whole aim because of like the the career advancements that
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there are. They want to go to jobs that
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aren't hands on at all. Even when I did 111, I was still
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working in care homes as well. And there were nurses there that
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had literally just qualified. And to me, I just, I thought
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that's why would you do your training and then and then do
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that. So the training that I believe
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it's their second year of training that they actually go
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on the ward for the first time. So it does attract a different
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culture of nurses. I just think it's a different,
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it's a different ball game now and it does attract a different
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type of person. But where we used to think of
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the actual nurse really hands on and it was, you know, really
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good basic nursing care, etcetera and assisting doctors
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and things with certain procedures, nurses nowadays do
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do a lot more extended nurse roles and procedures than they
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did when I first qualified. So sometimes you would have the
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the junior doctors or you know, the houseman doctors in the
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hospital would come and do certain procedures.
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But now nursing staff do those procedures.
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And also the difference I suppose is I haven't actually
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worked in a hospital for many, many years, but I know staffing
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levels have changed. All sorts of things have
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changed. And going into care homes years
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ago, they were, they were like care of the elderly were quite
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able. They they weren't really poorly.
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Whereas what's happened to all of those really poorly people
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would be nursed in hospitals. And there were different kind of
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grades of what were called geriatric units, rehabilitation,
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long stay, acute, all of these things.
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Well, then they all seemed to get shipped out into the
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community into care homes. So the care homes and went from
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like 15 bedded beautifully run places to these giant 60 bedded
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unit, 60 bedded nursing homes with really complex needs of the
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patients and quite often just one nurse either per unit or one
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nurse in the whole home. And increasingly what's happened
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with that as well is that not only did that did these people
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go into nursing homes, the management started to introduce
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non clinical managers. In residential homes that wasn't
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so bad, but in nursing homes, I thought that that just doesn't
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work in my opinion. And increasingly you can be
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working at a nursing home with really complex needs, patients
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or residents and the manager is non clinical.
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And if you're the only nurse on or the only nurse on that shift,
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you you've got no support or backup.
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That, that's very interesting to hear about because it kind of
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reflects some of the things that I've heard about it.
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But other people's recent experiences in hospitals and
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care settings and not being able to get whatever it is that they
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need or to, you know, to sort of wait for hours for any, any sort
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of assistance for anyone to come into the room, whether it's a a
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fully qualified registered nurse or even just a basic care worker
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to bring them a glass of water. Is that some things that you've
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heard as well? Yeah.
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So, so the the other thing to mention is that years ago the
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the staffing levels were much higher and patients, you could
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take them out for walks in the local park and things like that.
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It was, it was a pleasure and they were really well looked
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after. And then with this increase in
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numbers, it's all these big corporate companies opening care
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homes. They designed the care homes
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that seem to be for anything other than nursing.
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There never seems to be enough space to use manual handling
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equipment, etcetera. And and they all look very nice
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and showy in reception. They say, oh, was this a
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beautiful new home, You think? Well, working in it and living
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in it for the residents, I'm not so sure.
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And the staffing levels have just been slashed.
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I mean, they seem to be ever decreasing and money and
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everything. So equipment and money, sorry,
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the money for the equipment and the staffing levels have just
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decreased so much that the quality of care tends to be
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lacking. There are some amazing care
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assistants, but what makes it very difficult is the staffing
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levels. And also there seems to be this,
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if you can't get a job anywhere else or just go and get a care
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assistant job, and they do tend to take on anybody and that
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doesn't always work. And it makes it very difficult
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for nurses that are very nursing care assistants that are very
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dedicated to their work and work very hard.
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But you physically can't go and answer a bell when you're in the
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middle of attending to a patient with complex needs, even from a
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basic care point of view. And if they don't put on staff
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to do that, you can literally be 12 hours on a on a shift and
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there are bells going constantly.
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And then they get complaints and and that what can the staff do
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or say? They physically can't drop
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someone and go and then spend another 20 minutes attending to
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the person calling a bell and then someone else rings.
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You know, it's it's not money. But I mean, the reality is
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they're physically is not the staff to go around.
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They just won't allocate them. And then, yeah, I mean, I could
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talk to ages about that really. But I mean, yeah, the staffing
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levels are just not a not, not adequate at all.
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And often the equipment, you know, that they say you can have
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one hand towel and something else to go and do a bed bath
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with somebody. And I'm scratching my head
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thinking how on earth are you supposed to do a bed bath and
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attend to somebody's needs with that?
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And, and I think is this the level of nursing care it's
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become? It's, it's really concerning.
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And I feel so sorry for the residents.
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It's soul destroying having to work in places like that for
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the, for the residents. That's the reason we're they're
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going there. And it's just very hard to work
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in those conditions And management don't want to know.
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It's all just money, budget, profit margins.
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They're just corporate businesses.
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So what do the professional bodies have to say about this
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related to nurses? Have they made any statements or
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or done any advocacy work on behalf of the nurses?
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I, I don't know, I haven't mainly looked in in into that
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they, they, they say they have, you know, they'll have risk
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assessments and criterias for staffing ratios of patients.
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But on paper you can make things look, yes, that makes sense.
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But in practicality, certain residents need a higher level of
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care and the layout of the home, all sorts of reasons why that
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actually doesn't necessarily work.
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So they can manipulate the numbers and say, well, you've
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got three staff on the floor downstairs, but we only need 2
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upstairs. And then when a fuss is made,
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they say, all right, well, we're borrowed from the one downstairs
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to go up. And you think, well, now you've
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just moved the problem robbing Peter to play Paul.
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And they, they would justify it saying, well, officially this is
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the ratio that you need. It's, it's all approved that
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that's OK. And I think, well, I don't know
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who makes those decisions because on the floor it doesn't
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really work. So you mentioned this issue of
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the the businesses taking over and obviously any business needs
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to make money and that's completely fair.
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But what do you see happening in, in terms of like, you know,
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it sounds like they're definitely putting profits way
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ahead of the people that they're meant to take care of.
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Do you know any more about that? I don't know going forwards
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what, what the plan is apart from turning into way I, but I,
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I, the old homes often used to be privately run homes with 15
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beds, 12 to 15 beds. And they, they were absolutely
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amazing. And then now it's a business and
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so big companies and businesses buy or, or or have these nursing
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homes built and for them it all works out fine because and of
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course the residents or the families have to pay huge
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amount, ridiculous amounts of money.
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I mean, you know, absolutely astronomical fees.
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And then you've got bells ringing.
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The staff can't get to you. I mean, I don't know what
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they're going to do going forwards.
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I know sort of in some parts of nursing they really are trying
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to change things to AI. Well, as far as I know, ChatGPT
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can't change bed sheets or bathe someone, if that makes any
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difference at all. But I could.
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I do understand. I can see that coming because I
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know that in recent years there's been, as you'll know
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this better than me, likely the GPS and other medical workers
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have resorted to just sort of Googling things just the same
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way that individuals could, you know, And I've seen my own GP do
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this in the past where I came in with a concern and she typed it
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into Google to see what, you know, what I should do or one of
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the things that's made me kind of lose faith in the, the system
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in general. But I can certainly see where
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you're going with the, the idea about AI as well as I've also
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known as well, coming from the university system that I've
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worked at universities that had nursing schools where they were
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doing degrees in nursing to sort of get their, their
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qualification, usually an undergrad degree or something
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like that. And one of the things that I'd
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heard about at these universities is that some of
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the, the students in their first year or so of their studies
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would not, as you said, not have access to actual patients.
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But some of them even had simulators where they were
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working on, you know, pretend bodies to, to learn how to do
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procedures. Now, you know, if we take that
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into consideration with any profession where someone is
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hands on with someone, even something like hair styling, for
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example, I would not want someone who to, to cut my hair
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who had only read about cutting hair or had pretended to cut
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hair. And it's just as it's even more
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serious with nursing, of course, because you're talking about
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people's licence and safety that are in danger.
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So I think that's that's a really, really important point
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to bring out if that makes sense to.
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You when I trained, yeah, yeah. Every procedure is your first.
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You know, there's a first time for all of them, but you have to
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get on to it. You'll have been in study proc,
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you'd have been shown, demonstrated, you know,
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etcetera. And then you might shadow
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somebody doing a procedure on the ward.
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And then they say, OK, it's your turn now and you do it, you
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know, probably under supervision.
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You know, you do have exams to do, aseptic technique, you know,
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or the practical exams you have to do where you were assessed.
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And they would just ask permission of the patient at the
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time. And then you carry on from
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there. Never did anything on a dummy.
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And. Well, yeah, the other thing I
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was going to say about just going back to the care homes is
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that the medications just generally and hospitals and care
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homes was the medications. When I started, you would have a
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trolley that just lifted up a lid and you would do the drug
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round. It probably didn't take too
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long. And then the most I've seen on
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one patient these days is 18 mass charts.
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They're A4 pages of medications with 18 mass charts.
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Now, the drug rounds are trolleys that you have to crawl
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right down to the floor, right up from your shoulder height
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down to the floor to get to all the medications.
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And they can take 3 to 4 hours per drug round.
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And you're doing at least three of those a day, if not 4,
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depending on the length of your shift.
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And on top of that, you're having to deal with emergencies,
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staff care planning, documentation, phone calls,
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dressings, wound care procedures, all sorts of manner
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of things. But the and all these patients
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are just filled with medications that they're taking X number of
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medications for the side effects of the first medications that
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that the list gets so long of the side effects it's worse than
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the problem they had in the first place.
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That's, that's really shocking. I mean, I've heard a bit about
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this before, of course, that people sort of get the side
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effects then they, they take something to counter side
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effects, but something like 18 medications and and still be
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alive after putting that which into your body every day is, is
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really quite astonishing. And I would imagine as well that
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that considering all of the different distractions and
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demands that that the nurses have on their time, that that
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also increases the the possibility that they could
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create errors in medications and give them the wrong dose or miss
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a dose or something like that. Absolutely.
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And this was the the contradiction that we would have
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certain, you know, they'd have to have audits every week and
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any drug errors would come up and then they would clamp down
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the nurses. You must not be distract
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distracted doing your drug round.
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Do you think when you're telling me I have to answer the phones?
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Well, don't answer the phone that would last for about half a
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day. So they would say don't be
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distracted. You'd have care assistants come
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up and say, well, they'd want you for things, various things
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that were minor things that didn't need to, you didn't need
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to be interrupted for if it was an emergency, fine.
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But they often would come to you for things that they really,
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really didn't need to disturb you for.
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And that is a complete distraction when you're
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calculating and counting out, because you have to count every
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medication, you have to log it. You know, it can be quite
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complicated doing the drop round, to be honest.
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And, and so you would get all these constant distractions and
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it was impossible to do around without them.
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And so then they would say to the nurse, well, you mustn't be
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distracted. And then they say, why didn't
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you speak to so and so about that?
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Why didn't you take that call? Because you told me not to be
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distracted. Well, you have to do that as
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well. And it was like, well, which do
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you want? You can't do better.
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And and so drug errors will happen.
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The stress levels go up with the concentration.
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It's you've got to deal with drop doctors round.
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Sometimes they just come unannounced and you're just
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expected to drop everything. There's, you know, you'd have to
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do catheterizations, you have to do procedures, you have to do
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dressings, obviously. It's kind of like trying to work
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out your time with that to a certain extent that you've got,
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you've got the patients have got meals, they've got to be cared
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for as well. So you've got to liaise
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everything. You're sort of clock watching
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every single minute of the entire shift trying to work out
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how everything's going to unfold.
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And it's like learn to dance on the moving carpet because it's
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changes all the time. There aren't planned times, you
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have to just roll with what's happening at the time.
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And I, and I think you said something to me before about the
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attitude that family members and carers have had toward nurses as
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well as has changed over time. What is that in relation to?
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Having respect for nurses and and how they're treated.
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Oh, all right. Well, maybe not so much the
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relatives. Usually they are are OK and you
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do explain things well to the paper.
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The relatives that they're normally absolutely fine.
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It's it's some of the culture of the care assistants they take
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on. I don't know whether it's a
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younger generation thing. Possibly.
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It seems like they've never been told the word no or maybe any
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discipline. Maybe it's because I'm just so
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old school, but they have absolute, you know, respect for
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nurses whatsoever. Some of them.
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Some of them, absolutely. And what do we know about some
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of the training of of some of the carers because it sounds
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like that's of great concern as well?
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Yes, everyone's supposed to be manual handling trained and that
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should be several days long. And after that you, we all of us
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have to have refreshers every year for manual handling
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updates. And the number of times I've
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been on the update and they've got brand new carers in there
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just for about four hours doing an update, but they've never
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done the actual full training. And then they're signed off to
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go and work in the care home. As for basic nursing care, I, I
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don't think there is any training in the actual care
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homes and the hospitals you'd have that they probably just
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shadow with someone. It's that, you know, if they're
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not taught absolutely from the start, then they're, they're,
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they're shown substandard levels of care to start with, so they
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don't know any better. So then that would obviously I
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guess result in the potential to a lot of dangers for the
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patients or the the residents in the care homes.
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Yeah, accidents are accidents are more likely to happen and
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indeed they do happen. If people haven't take due care
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with an elderly resident with very fragile skin and they're in
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a wheelchair and they've been mobilised somewhere else and
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transferred from that wheelchair.
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You've got the footplates to come up etcetera and everything.
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And they might be going into transport for a hospital
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appointment and back or something.
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And they haven't protected their legs properly and they're just
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quickly flipping up these things and transferring them.
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And they've come back with the most awful skin tear wounds that
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we then on top of everything else, have to do.
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All the documentation on that, adhere to it all, you know, all
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the dressing protocols and paperwork to go with that.
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The fact that that patient's now got an injury that's been
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inflicted by the staff that could have been avoided if if
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they're sorry, if it could have been avoided if they'd really
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taken that much care. Because yeah, that would happen
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quite, quite often. And then people, I mean, a long
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time ago, I worked in a Community Hospital as an agency
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nurse. And I was doing a night shift.
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And I think they were so short staffed, I didn't have a care
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assistant with me for the whole unit.
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And they had this young girl that was not even a care
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assistant, shall we say, working with me.
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I wasn't happy. I, my hands were tied.
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I couldn't walk out on the shift.
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I was the only person there and I was an agency nurse and I
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just, I thought they said there was nothing else they could do.
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So in that shift there was a couple of side rooms and you'd
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have what they call these bed rail cot sides, things that
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you'd have to risk assessments for to use and everything how
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you remember whether they had the sides or what maybe that
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person didn't have sides maybe. But to help we have to do term
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people and reposition them and for ground to do and etcetera at
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the end of the night shift. And this girl took it upon
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herself to go and turn this lady in the side room on her own and
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didn't. You can't do that on your own.
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And she pulled the sheets and the patient rolled out the other
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side of the bed and cracked their head.
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Blood absolutely everywhere. Heads complete a lot.
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But I mean, there was like 2 white sheets, completely red.
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And I was still cleaning that up top of everything, you know,
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obviously looked off the patient to get them back and patch that
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up. And the day stuff started to
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come in and then what on earth has happened?
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It was just this blood everywhere in this absolute
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carnage. It's just horrendous.
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And you know, it's like, well, I asked you not to leave me with,
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with a care assistant. I cannot be responsible for her
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everywhere she goes. I didn't ask her to do that.
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And this is what's happened. And I was there an hour and a
25:41
half after my shift finishing up everything and documenting it
25:46
and all the rest of it. So I mean, that was just, that
25:49
was just horrendous. And another thing that you've
25:52
mentioned as well to me in previous conversations is, is
25:56
the the people coming in from other countries to work in these
26:00
settings. What can you tell us about that?
26:04
I guess there's been a lot of nurses that didn't qualify in
26:08
the UK for their degrees and and there's been some questions
26:11
about their ability to do the job here correctly.
26:14
Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of Filipino nurses came over years
26:18
ago and they're very hard working.
26:20
And and then I don't know, more recently was that a lot of
26:23
Romanian nurses and that come over and I was in one home where
26:28
I was the only English nurse and I had Filipinos against the
26:32
Romanians, the same home. But, but I think in that same
26:39
home, the, the worse and shall we say, and another home as
26:44
well. Actually, they hadn't actually
26:47
got their registration through in the UK and they were
26:50
practising and they were nursing and they were cutting corners
26:54
and not doing things quite right.
26:55
And one home, I did actually say, look, this is completely
27:00
unacceptable and you're putting, they're putting my PIN at risk
27:05
and the management would do nothing, absolutely nothing.
27:08
And now you said there's some investigations going on about
27:12
some Nigerian nurses. Is that what you said to me
27:14
before as well? I think, I think the Guardian,
27:17
as we saw it online had had said that there was an investigation
27:20
into 700 Nigerian nurses that possibly had faked their
27:25
qualifications in Nigeria to to come over.
27:31
But what's kind of alarming with that is with some of the triage
27:35
calls that I do, some of them are NHS authorities and I do get
27:42
a lot of foreign nurses phone in for triage and their their
27:53
communications. I mean, their communication
27:55
skills are just so poor that you just how do they manage on the
27:58
ward? Have they managed doing drug
28:00
calculations and communications with the doctors?
28:03
How do they, how do they actually, it was rapport with
28:07
the residents and patients. It's, I mean, sometimes the
28:11
calls I just got and I look and I think, my goodness, you're a
28:14
staff nurse. I'm just baffled.
28:20
And the language barrier, you know, some of them can barely
28:23
speak English. Yeah, it's quite disturbing and
28:27
it's upsetting for patients and residents.
28:33
I'm sure you've got very elderly people.
28:35
They they just don't understand what's going on.
28:38
Let's go into something else because I'm getting a bit
28:41
disturbed by all this. I, I wanted to talk a little
28:44
about what your story and the fact that you have not been able
28:48
to work in the NHS system since I believe it was 2001.
28:51
Can you, can you tell us about that?
28:53
I suppose it was back in the late 90s, I kind of realised
28:57
that I don't want to have any more vaccines.
29:01
And I'd have this battle everywhere I applied to work or
29:06
any agency because their agencies would chop and change
29:09
their contracts. So you'd often jump and change
29:12
different agencies and you had to apply.
29:14
And sometimes it would take months and months of jumping
29:16
through hoops to actually get to getting a shift because of
29:20
compliance. And part of that compliance,
29:23
which you often found out right at the end, was that we need to
29:27
see all your vaccine status. Excuse me, I had to see all your
29:32
vaccine status and I would show them the photocopies of, you
29:36
know, from 1961 and etcetera and the polio and everything like
29:42
that. And then even I did have hep BI
29:45
suppose when I did my nurse training and I probably did have
29:48
some boosters a bit later on. And then it was like, no more,
29:52
I'm not having it anymore. And then they'd say, well,
29:56
you're not compliant if you if you're not having the boosters
29:59
and we now we need you to have MMR and whatever all these other
30:03
ridiculous vaccines are. And I said, well, I'm not having
30:06
any more. And so I would be non compliant.
30:11
So I was told I couldn't work for the NHS anymore.
30:16
I mean, I had just worked 18 years in a private hospital.
30:19
But I mean if I did want to work in the NHS or any jobs with the
30:22
NHS, I was prohibited because I was non compliant.
30:27
And then some agencies were very strict and they would say you're
30:31
non compliant. So then other agencies were not
30:35
so bad. And then some actually asked me
30:39
to go to my GP for proof of some vaccines that I said, well it
30:43
wasn't the GP that gave them. If I went to my GP, he would ask
30:47
me to show the proof of the little slip of paper we had when
30:50
I was at school when I was about 13 years old, say it for TB or
30:54
etcetera. And so the agency said, well,
30:59
you need to send a photograph of the injection site.
31:05
And I said you want a photograph of an injection site that's
31:09
nearly 50 years old, right. I contacted my, I contacted my
31:16
GP surgery, spoke to a practise nurse and she said, what's this
31:24
company? What are you talking about?
31:26
How ridiculous? I said, I know and that's what
31:30
you get when you apply for a job these days.
31:34
I never heard anything so more ridiculous.
31:40
And then I'd say like, well, you know, why do I need to have that
31:43
jab? And they'd say, well, it's to
31:45
protect the patients. And I said so if I had so if I
31:48
have any vaccines at home, all my neighbours are protected.
31:55
Are they Why don't they have the job then?
31:58
I mean, what, how does that work?
32:00
Well, you, you might have the illness as but I don't try yes,
32:04
but you might do. I thought, right.
32:06
But this, this is getting nowhere then, is it?
32:08
So I mean, this is just the thing.
32:09
And then of course, when the COVID thing came along, well,
32:12
the pandemic, that's it. I didn't even want to have the
32:17
test, but I had to have tests three times a week.
32:19
But when it came to the jab and I said to my friend right at the
32:24
start, I said, you see, and they make this mandatory.
32:28
It's healthcare are going to be hit first.
32:32
And of course that was it. And I wouldn't have it.
32:35
I wouldn't have it. And the agency say it's not us,
32:40
not, not, you know, making, making it compulsory or
32:44
mandatory is the care homes went, went through the door and
32:48
one of them that I'd been working out for about 3 years.
32:51
And I just said, Louise, what are you going to do?
32:53
And I said, well, I don't know, but I'm not having the job.
32:57
And that's that I said I'm not having it.
33:00
And several other nurses didn't want to have it, but they caved
33:04
in in the end because of I need it for my mortgage.
33:06
Well, I had two mortgages. I had lots of financial
33:09
commitments and it was financially quite devastating,
33:13
to be honest. It was really, really, really
33:15
difficult. And I've managed to bring myself
33:18
through that. But I wasn't going to cave in
33:21
and have the jab because that's what they wanted.
33:24
Oh, I can't go on holiday. Oh, well, I need to have the
33:26
jab. Well, that's ridiculous if
33:28
you're valuing, you know, valuing A2 week holiday over
33:33
your your life and health. So again, come November 21, I
33:39
wasn't allowed through the doorway.
33:41
So that's when I found this job that I wouldn't normally have
33:45
looked price had to be honest because the pay is really low,
33:48
but it was a home based job and so at least I didn't have to go
33:52
and mix with anyone. And yeah, home based telephone
33:56
clinician job, but and that's that, you know.
34:01
But yeah, no, I wouldn't, wouldn't have it, wouldn't cave
34:03
in, not at all. And so many people now said that
34:06
they wish they hadn't had it. Yeah, yeah, and good for you
34:11
because I didn't have them either.
34:14
And I personally, I don't know about you, but I don't know a
34:17
single person who regrets not taking it.
34:20
But of course, you know, it's the position of UK column that
34:23
we will do what we can to support the vaccine injured.
34:26
And we have said this from the very beginning when we started
34:29
to see this coming out. And I think you've told me some
34:32
things as well about sort of some of the changes in people's
34:35
health after the jab that you've you've heard about in your own
34:38
practise. I have because we have to take
34:41
all of their medical history. When we do do a call, we have to
34:45
take all of that. We have to, you know, whatever
34:47
the situation is that they're going through at the time or
34:49
their symptoms, we have to take their medical history, all of
34:53
it, even if it's relevant to that call or not.
34:56
We document that all their medications, their allergies,
35:01
vaccines, if it is relevant. And usually they're they're on
35:04
there just, you know, not every vaccine they've ever had, but,
35:08
you know, certain vaccines are normally listed and then talking
35:12
through whatever's going on with them at the time.
35:14
And some people are so desperately ill and they were
35:17
fine before they had the vaccines.
35:20
And some people that had chronic illnesses just got worse and
35:23
worse since they had the vaccines.
35:28
Right, because it from what I understand, not being a medical
35:32
professional, but from what I understand it, it can have an
35:35
impact on your immune system. And so if you have a a chronic
35:38
illness that affects immunity, then then that will obviously
35:43
cause you to have more symptoms even with the illness you had
35:47
originally, let alone what it might cause and further damage
35:51
that you've had after the vaccines or jabs.
35:54
Don't really know the insurance and outs all the science of it,
35:57
but there's all this talk of spike proteins and that if
36:01
they've had the flu jabs then the COVID jabs can trigger
36:08
illnesses and things. It's it's quite a dark, dark
36:14
cold to go down really. Yeah, I, I heard from lots of
36:17
people who were vaccinated who said at least they had COVID.
36:23
Of course, I personally don't think that it was so called
36:25
COVID because we, but they had, they certainly had something
36:29
that made them sick several times.
36:31
And before I left the university system, there were so many times
36:35
when I was covering for people who had been vaccinated that
36:38
were off sick all the time. And I was never off sick, at
36:41
least any more than I would have been otherwise because I didn't
36:44
test and I didn't jab. But IA lot of people know this
36:47
already who watch UK, call them regularly.
36:49
But in my role in that we're dealing with information and
36:53
media. When I was still an academic, I
36:56
was offered £350,000 by a local NHS board in Scotland where I
37:02
was working at the time to help promote the jobs to young
37:06
people. And I turned down the money and
37:08
I said, no, I'm not going to promote this because I don't
37:11
know whether or not it's a good idea.
37:13
And if someone were injured by these jabs then and they took it
37:17
because they read messaging that I created that, that I would
37:20
somehow feel complicit in, in injuring them or worse.
37:24
So it was again, for me, there were, there were a lot of
37:27
implications to what happened to me in my career as a result of
37:31
that, but I, I feel much better about it and it helps me sleep
37:35
just a bit better at night knowing that I didn't contribute
37:38
to any of this. So I just want to congratulate
37:41
you as well, because the pressure must have been even
37:43
worse being in the medical system.
37:46
Thank you. Yeah, so and I also wouldn't, I
37:49
said if the doctors come around to do the COVID jabs, I said
37:53
please don't include me. I'm not, I don't have any part
37:56
of it. And they let you know I didn't
37:58
have to. I was on shift when they were
38:00
doing some. I said I'm not having any part
38:01
of that. And and of course, all the
38:05
falsifying death certificates weren't there.
38:08
You know, even if you got run over by a bus or put it down as
38:10
COVID, you know it's misinformation.
38:14
So I, I also want to go back as well to something that you
38:19
mentioned to me previously, which is about the rate of
38:21
dementia. And I have to admit a bit
38:24
personally interested in this because my father passed away
38:27
of, of dementia when he was only 67.
38:30
But I'm just wondering if you could say a little bit more
38:32
about that because I do know that generally speaking, as a
38:35
society, we are seeing a rapid increase in dementia rates
38:39
across the population in this country and other Western
38:42
countries. So what have you seen in terms
38:46
of dementia and and how that's worked out in the care homes?
38:50
When I first would have, you know, worked in a care home or
38:53
had anything to do with, with the care home, I don't know,
38:58
over, you know, 40 years ago when I said they'd have like
39:03
these 12 or 15 bedded sort of care homes sort of privately
39:06
run. I mean, they probably didn't
39:07
have a dementia patient in there.
39:10
And then over the years, the, the, the number of dementia
39:16
patients has increased so much that there is, there's no such
39:22
thing as a care home or nursing home without them now.
39:26
And even though they might have a whole unit allocated to them,
39:29
I don't know, it just seems it just seemed to be everywhere
39:34
just increasing. And then we know the cause of
39:38
that can be like all to do with the food chain is all you know,
39:44
it's, you're not really getting good nutrition even from normal
39:49
food chain from supermarkets to anywhere.
39:51
And then you've got the medications, you know, you've
39:55
got heavy metals or aluminium that I know there are certain
39:59
drugs and medic medications that kind of contribute to that.
40:03
There are so many, you know, sort of tactical angles really.
40:07
And it is definitely increasing the dementia rate.
40:11
You know, they say always old age.
40:13
I know it's not the, you know, you've got people that can live
40:17
without it. And then why are such young
40:19
people getting dementia, you know, relatively young?
40:24
So it's, it's a horrible thing, but it's, I just think the
40:28
numbers have increased quite a lot over the years.
40:32
Yeah. When my father was first
40:34
diagnosed with dementia, this is of course only one case, but the
40:37
type of dementia he had which affected the frontal lobe rather
40:40
than sort of think of Alzheimer's traditionally or it,
40:44
but there are a lot of different types of dementias.
40:46
And so his was called frontal temporal dementia or ticks
40:49
disease or kind of this, you know, and it affects a different
40:52
area of the brain. But they said at the time, the
40:55
neurologist is saying to us that it could affect anyone.
40:59
People could be in their 30s and have this type of dementia and
41:03
still die from it. So it wasn't necessarily age
41:05
related. And I think there's still a lot
41:07
of work that needs to be done to dispel that myth that someone
41:10
who so called has dementia or Alzheimer's as everything gets
41:14
lumped together, that it's somebody who's 90 years old and
41:18
bedridden, when that is actually not the case anymore.
41:23
And I think we need to do some more work around this.
41:25
Yes, definitely. Yeah.
41:27
It's really quite worrying the level of dementia.
41:30
But I think a lot of it, some of it can actually be almost
41:35
reversed, can be reduced with, you know, nutritional, you know,
41:40
special nutritional supplements and things.
41:43
So some of it is metabolic looking at nutrition.
41:48
And just. Get me to the toxins.
41:50
Yeah, Let's talk about some, some of your work as a holistic
41:55
health practitioner. And I and I want to say this of
41:57
course to the the viewers and listeners with the disclaimer
42:00
that UK column does not take the position of, of, of advocating
42:05
for a pushing or recommending any particular medical
42:09
treatments, but that we're just only providing this for
42:12
information only. So I just want to make that
42:14
clear to everyone. First of all, I first want to
42:17
point out what, what, what drew me to talk to you in the 1st
42:20
place was the, the beautiful artwork that you had on display
42:25
at the Thetford Festival. So just to give people an
42:28
example of the kinds of things that you do.
42:30
And I know that you have much more and will provide links to
42:32
people so that they can look at your shop.
42:35
But this first was a, a, a glass pendant that I purchased from
42:38
you, which I really love. I just love the colour in it
42:42
just gorgeous. And this was a, I also bought a
42:47
cleansing intention candle, which the label says it's
42:50
handmade soy wax, essential oils, crystals, Himalayan salt,
42:54
herbs, and biodegradable glitter.
42:57
So do you want to maybe talk a little bit, a little bit about
43:00
some of your, your products And, and also how did you create the
43:04
ability to make things like this?
43:06
Because I have no artistic ability whatsoever.
43:10
So I'm always impressed by people who who can do things
43:12
like this. I don't even know where it
43:15
started really. I mean, I think I always in in
43:19
hindsight about my time again, I would have I would pursued art,
43:23
art side and creative side long, you know, long, long, long ago,
43:28
But it was something that I kind of had to put on the back
43:30
burner. I started doing some acrylic for
43:34
paintings and then I started making some Angel, doing some
43:40
sort of abstract, he sort of Angel paintings because I was
43:44
teaching angelic Reiki and people were attracted to the
43:47
energies and the colours and I don't know how the rest
43:51
happened. I started doing resin orgonite
43:54
pyramids and pendants and the heart pendants and and then it's
44:00
just expanded from there, you know, self draining soaped
44:04
dishes, all sorts of manner of resin articles and with special
44:08
Petri effects in them with Alcoholics and mica powders and
44:14
things. And then I just got so much that
44:17
somebody said, well, why why don't you do a stall?
44:21
I said, well, I haven't got a gazebo or tables.
44:23
But then apparently the local town, you just hire them from
44:26
the council and they're already there on the square.
44:29
So. So I started doing a market
44:31
stall just over 2 years ago on a Saturday.
44:35
Yeah, so I make intention candles.
44:40
I have got a little YouTube on that, like a 10 minute video on
44:43
that. I make beeswax candles.
44:48
I have made some homemade incense, but I do sell or
44:52
incense as well. What else do I else do?
44:56
I make key fobs, pendants, jewellery, clay work.
45:00
I started doing some clay work, polymer clay, various different
45:07
types of clay and stonework, how techs play, which is like liquid
45:12
clay and working with fabric. So sort of that's more of a
45:17
newer project, doing different things with that, lots of
45:22
different sort of mixed mediums really.
45:24
And just sort of, you know, whatever, whatever I can think
45:28
of next, really just get inspired to make something else
45:31
and then people ask for different things as well.
45:33
So do little fairy house lanterns, lights in and, you
45:39
know, bookmarks and hugging couples and resin skulls with
45:48
various things in lots and lots of lots of different things,
45:53
really. I think that can be such a make
45:56
a big difference on our health, whether or not people believe
45:59
that it has a direct impact on curing a particular condition.
46:03
I think just the, the idea of just seeing something that looks
46:08
nice or wearing something that looks nice or, or even how
46:10
something smells, I think is something that just can make us
46:14
feel better. I, I still remember that on that
46:17
first day of the festival when I, I was, I had my talk on the
46:20
first day that I, that I gave and it was so hot.
46:24
I'm sure you'll remember it's like 30° and it was so hot.
46:27
But what I remember as much as the heat was the smell of the
46:31
incense that you had burning in your stall.
46:33
Because I was, I don't know if you remember, I was sitting at a
46:35
table next to you and I was like, it's really hot.
46:38
I'm, I'm wearing a dress to look professional.
46:41
I am really sweaty. But the instance was calming me
46:44
down just to the point to where I got to where it was.
46:47
It was time for me to go on stage.
46:49
So for me, I did appreciate that.
46:51
Just just a personal thank you on that point as well.
46:56
Do you want to talk a little bit about the different healing
46:59
modalities that you that you use in your practise, in addition to
47:04
things looking nice and selling nice because I know you have a
47:06
lot of other skills as well. So I started doing those
47:11
therapies in in the mid 90s. I did aromatherapy massage.
47:16
I don't do that quite so much now, but it's quite hard work.
47:20
But I do reflexology, hot stone reflexology, working on the
47:27
points on the feet, etcetera, which corresponds to the, to the
47:30
body organs and systems. I do the emotional freedom
47:35
techniques, tapping therapy where we look at people's
47:39
limiting beliefs or, or emotions, whatever, whatever is,
47:43
you know, whatever's actually happened with them at the time,
47:48
wherever their issue is. And you get the issues sort of
47:51
up out, tapped on, looked at and neutralised basically, which is
47:55
different from counselling where you keep talking about the same
47:58
thing. You're kind of re energising it
48:00
with EFT. We don't want to go into long
48:02
stories, keep energising it. Just want to get it up, out,
48:05
tapped up, tapped on, looked at, neutralised so that it's
48:08
cleared, it's actually neutralised.
48:12
So it's not going to be keep re energising it.
48:15
So there's an awful lot you can learn about EFT and matrix re
48:21
imprinting and the traditional Reiki I did in India, trips to
48:28
India. But I then in 2000 and 2003.
48:34
I did the Master's in 2006 anyway for angelic Reiki.
48:38
Angelic Reiki was a newer system channel through from Archangel
48:41
Metatron. So it's very angelic.
48:45
You have a healing Angel assigned to you.
48:49
The angels do the actual attunement and the healing view
48:54
and there's no lineage so it doesn't come through all
48:57
different consciousness of different masters.
49:00
The attunements are done by the angelic realm and there's a very
49:05
powerful cleansing process before each attunement.
49:09
There's three attunements and levels one and two.
49:12
I have a special 30 Archangel attunement on the on the Sunday
49:17
the last day and there are 9 different healing modalities
49:20
within that system. I've also done the balance
49:24
procedure where you're kind of using like a body sway test on
49:29
the thymus art point quantum touch healing where you could
49:34
realign bones and you're working with breath work, fire breath
49:39
and all sorts of different breath work.
49:42
It's very fascinating therapy as well.
49:48
I've done Reiki drumming which is actually very beneficial for
49:53
dementia, so it's actually good to take that into care homes if
49:58
they're interested in going in with a frame drum.
50:01
So yes, research on how that helps with dementia.
50:04
Breaky drumming. I have crystal singing bowls, do
50:08
colour mirrors this sort of colour therapy else meditation,
50:17
do various workshops. So I teach EFT and angelic Reiki
50:26
because I think the way forward with medicine is energy medicine
50:30
working with like frequencies, vibrations, even colours.
50:36
They will have their own unique vibration and frequency.
50:40
Got sound healing, got healing machine that sends quantum sort
50:45
of frequencies, scale of technology.
50:49
I think all of that's the way forward really is basically
50:52
energy medicine working with meridians or you know, rather
50:59
than just the physical because I believe what I said, we're 1%
51:04
quantum physics says we're 1% physical and 99% the sort of
51:07
spiritual energetic, non physical part.
51:11
And yet medicine and us tend to focus 99% of our time on the 1%
51:18
bit of that, isn't it? It makes more sense to spend 99%
51:22
of the time on the 99%. Well, you know, that's an
51:29
interesting, it's an interesting observation that that actually
51:31
makes a lot of sense. And, and you know, what I will
51:34
say about my experiences when I've tried different methods of
51:38
holistic healing for myself is one of the things that I
51:42
consider deeply, especially with things like acupuncture and how
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they've been around for much longer than any of the sort of
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allopathic or what we would call modern day traditional Western
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medical approaches such as jabs that have been around for a very
52:00
short amount of time compared to how long some of these
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traditional truly traditional therapies have been around.
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So I personally think, and again, keeping UK columns
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position into mind that we don't, we don't recommend or, or
52:16
condone or push any particular medical treatments for anything.
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So it's my personal opinion that these things that have been
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around for a while must have some effect and that's why
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they've been around for so long. Even if there's no so called,
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you know, random, random controlled child studies, which
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in some cases there are for things like Reiki and, and
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acupuncture and other things that they have noticed that
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there is a scientific difference, for example, with
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things like Reiki. So I think that this is just
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again, my opinion that it's been the medical establishment, the
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sort of the, you know, the pharmaceutical industrial
52:54
complex, if we want to call it that, that has been putting out
52:58
this type of information to say, oh, no, supplements are bad for
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you. Don't take omega-3 because
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that's really not going to help you.
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What you really need is this newly developed drug by Pfizer
53:08
to make you better. So I think there's a lot of
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narrative in that that that we are given that we maybe not
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shouldn't be listening to quite as much as some people too.
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Yeah. And sadly the the GPS are kind
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of very much fed from the pharmaceutical hotels really.
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And it's a multi billion power business, isn't it?
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They really don't want people to be well, they want to just keep
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them on this, you know, stream of medications for life, really.
53:38
You did say that some of them do recommend osteopathy Can can you
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say anything about that? Well, with my job I have to go
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by the narrative to a certain extent, if you know what I mean.
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I have to say check with your GP first, etcetera.
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And to the NHS Choices site and MC guidelines and on the NMC
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site it does mention osteopathy. So invariably when people have
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back problems and you know, they, they say, well, it's so
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difficult to get hold of my doctor and it would take two
54:17
weeks an appointment and then and at the end of the day, most
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of the GPS will just say try rest and take some pain relief.
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And that's sum total of their advice.
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If the problem hasn't improved in a few weeks, they might refer
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to physio. The physio in some cases is just
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a telephone consultation and sent a generic exercise sheet.
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Now that isn't every case, but that has happened.
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And so when I triage them, obviously I'm triaging to see
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the extent of what's going on with their back.
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I'm not diagnosing they, they know that and I might give them
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home care advice as they've got a list of home care advice that
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I can give that that does really help.
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It's very effective. And I say that if you know, if
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it's like the sciatic nerve pinch, which it might indicate
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the symptoms they've got or etcetera, or they've pulled or
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muscles gone into spasm or something, the quickest, most
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effective way would be to go privately to an osteopath.
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You'd have far less time off sick and you might be able to
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claim it back and they were better to examine as they're the
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specialists in your back, see exactly what's going on.
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They can usually have trigger release points.
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They can possibly release it in that moment, sort of the main
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root cause and then give you the right stretches and exercises to
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do that's relevant to what you've specifically done rather
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than a generic exercise sheet. So because there's many places
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the sciatic nerve can be pinched.
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So it's not always the same stretch and exercise.
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And you know, some people are very, very grateful, appreciated
55:53
that. Just, you know, gauge how they
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are and what's approach, you know, if that's appropriate,
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then that's, that's what I'll guide them with.
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I might say, if you're going to speak to AGP anyway, just
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mention that you might be thinking about that or, you
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know, had that suggested. So it's still within my
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boundaries to say, but I mean the end of the day I'm trying to
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help them. Yeah, of course.
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And the other thing is, you know, sorry, the other thing is
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that invariably they don't really understand about the
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immune system and quite confusing or surprisingly is
56:31
trained medical staff don't seem to know about the immune system.
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They just say, oh, I've taken paracetamol and ibuprofen, why
56:38
have I still got these flu like symptoms after about 3 days?
56:42
And they think, well, you know, what else have you done?
56:47
What do you mean? What have you done to help you
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help recovery? You know, eating.
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Eating fast food and watching telly and eating fast food?
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Hopefully not, but that might be the case, right?
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So I would just, you know, point then right that direction of
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saying, well, you know, the pharmaceutical medications are
57:14
fine for mild pain relief, for a fever, etcetera, but they're not
57:17
actually going to help your immune system, which is the
57:21
fastest way to recovers to strengthen your immune system.
57:24
And the more robust, stronger your immune system is, the less
57:27
susceptible you are to colds and flus and viruses anyway.
57:30
So some people just wrap it up, they just love it and give them
57:34
some information down that Ave because we are about well being
57:40
as well. They're very much, the company
57:42
is very much trying to be about well being, but then they kind
57:46
of limit what you can say. So it's a bit of a
57:48
contradiction, you know, do what I can really to help people.
57:55
So what are the sort of the completely, completely, truly
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safe and effective things that people can do just to look after
58:03
themselves at home every day that will benefit everyone?
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I was going to say, I mean individually you'd have to like
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everybody is different. So you know, obviously if you're
58:14
speaking to a person, you have to do a consultation with each
58:17
individual person. But generally hydration, you
58:22
know, 2 litres of pure water, not tap water that's completely
58:26
contaminated, but pure water, 2 litres of water a day.
58:30
Have some me time sort of, you know, to clear your mind,
58:37
whether it's meditation, connecting in nature, going for
58:41
a walk, going for a walk in a park or in the countryside.
58:45
Grounding. You can get grounding technology
58:48
sheets and things to little grounding mats you can put in
58:52
when you're at the computer. But yeah, just grounding.
58:56
Take your shoes and socks off and hang the washing out on the
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grass with bare feet for 10 minutes or something.
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Just things like that. Just be grounding meditation,
59:08
writing goal setting lists or sort of appreciation gratitude
59:13
lists, depending you know, what you're wanting to achieve and
59:17
how you feel and just really good basic healthy nutrition
59:22
that's dugout of the earth. That's probably got some, you
59:28
know, there's there's lots on was it by electoral culture now
59:32
where you're putting these copper coils in the ground with
59:37
basalt rocks and everything to get the magnetic frequencies in
59:41
the soil. And that's just boosting the
59:44
growth of vegetables and getting the nutrients that you need back
59:49
into the into the soil. Whereas the farming, it's just
59:53
absolutely exhausted, exhausted nutrients now and they're not
59:57
even putting the right fertilisers and things on
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etcetera. That's a whole nother Ave.
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But. Yeah, just so just a good, good
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basic nutrition, Fresh fruit and vegetables, cooked from scratch,
1:00:10
cooked from scratch, just basic, you know, but just try and avoid
1:00:15
processed foods, which generally supermarkets, I mean apart from
1:00:20
getting that the fresh raw fruit and veg there, everything else
1:00:24
is processed, absolutely everything.
1:00:26
So you just have to try and limit processed foods and, and
1:00:30
in my kitchen, I have lots and lots and lots of storage jars of
1:00:34
dried foods that keep like quinoa, different types of
1:00:37
quinoa, rice, different rices, nuts, pulses, grains, you know,
1:00:46
it just goes on and on. Seeds you can do, you know, if
1:00:49
you have like 4 or five different seeds, you get your
1:00:52
essential fatty acids and you can grind them up, but you know,
1:00:56
cheers. Seeds, there's all sorts of
1:00:58
dried stuff. You can have lentils, beans, and
1:01:01
then you're just adding the vegetables.
1:01:05
So you have that basic stock that lasts a long time that you
1:01:10
can just top up and then you just top up with your fresh
1:01:12
vegetables, fruit, etcetera. If you can get organic, I mean,
1:01:18
I'm never so perfect and money and everything, but if you can
1:01:22
get organic as much as you can because there are certain foods
1:01:25
that are more highly at risk of chemical spraying and etcetera
1:01:31
if they're non if they're non organic.
1:01:35
But yeah, so healthy diet, I think we do need supplements
1:01:40
these days. We really do.
1:01:42
So a good quality vitamin C at least every day.
1:01:46
And if you're not, well, you need a therapeutic dose.
1:01:48
So that's a higher level. Vitamin D levels are very
1:01:52
important. Magnesium is very important.
1:01:55
And for a lot of women, iodine is very important, as Lynn
1:02:01
Farrow did a book called The Iodine Crisis.
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Yeah. So nutrition, meditation, mind
1:02:09
do something that you enjoy doing, find a hobby, get a past
1:02:14
time that you like, socialise, have time to mix and have
1:02:22
conversations with people and not just looking at a screen,
1:02:28
not just the. You.
1:02:31
Know, actually have a conversation with somebody, meet
1:02:35
people, speak to people. And yeah, I don't know what else
1:02:40
can I add to that. I mean, yeah, it's a healthy
1:02:42
diet. Look after your mind, body and
1:02:44
soul. Really.
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Epsom salt baths are really good.
1:02:47
Thanks for all that. That's some really useful advice
1:02:51
and hopefully people can take some ideas from that.
1:02:53
And I'm sure that we can all improve on what we do or don't
1:02:57
do to ourselves in some way. We're just about out of time,
1:03:00
unfortunately. It's been a great conversation.
1:03:03
Do you have anything else that you would like to add that you
1:03:06
haven't had a chance to say or that we haven't discussed?
1:03:09
I think we sort of pretty much covered everything.
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I can't think of anything else to add now, really.
1:03:20
But yeah, just, you know, just do your research.
1:03:23
Do your research or or go to people that have already done
1:03:27
the research. If you haven't got time to do
1:03:29
the research, you know, there's people like Philip Day.
1:03:31
credence.org is is well worth looking at his site and his free
1:03:38
newsletter. You've got Doctor McCullough as
1:03:41
well with his free newsletter. Some really good information
1:03:44
there. And then there's books like
1:03:49
Biology of Belief by Doctor Bruce Lipton, who is a stem cell
1:03:53
researcher in the 1960s. He's very well known now.
1:03:59
And the other thing was that your intention, your intention
1:04:02
when you're drinking or eating food, don't have an argument or
1:04:06
have the news on or I mean, get rid of the TV for goodness sake.
1:04:09
These days you don't need it. But I mean, don't have any don't
1:04:13
have a negative conversation when you're eating because all
1:04:15
of that energy affects your food effects every cell in your body.
1:04:18
So there's a doctor Amato was net Masuri the water book.
1:04:23
You know, the the intention experiment with waters, how it
1:04:28
changes the molecular structure by how you influence the water.
1:04:32
So all of those things are really important as well.
1:04:36
So yeah, do your research and just don't just be very wary of
1:04:42
mainstream media and what the manipulation is out there
1:04:47
because it it's not for your well being, it's not feel good
1:04:51
at all. So look at the truth channels
1:04:55
and do your research and live your best life.
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Thank you very much. That's a great place to add.
1:05:01
And I would remind everyone to not get rid of your screens or
1:05:05
your your phones or whatever you're using if it's to use to
1:05:08
watch UK column, because you still do need it for that.
1:05:12
So thank you again for your time, Louise.
1:05:14
It's been a wonderful conversation and I hope that
1:05:17
people can can learn from it. And certainly your experience is
1:05:21
invaluable for all of us to learn from.
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And thank you again for your bravery and for standing up for
1:05:26
what you do was right. Thank you so much.