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B4evaKool "race a motorcycle" Podcast S2 Ep. 8 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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Welcome to the Be Forever Cool podcast.
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My name is Rex 45. My name is TJ with two wheels
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and coffee. What's going on?
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TJ hey, I'm back for another session.
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You know this, watching Moto GP now that my season's over.
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So that's all I can do is just see how the pros do it right?
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Just glad there's about 6 races left.
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I think 5 now, but you know, just get me through a couple
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more months, Yeah, I mean. How about yourself?
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For me, I'm good. I I have one more race to go
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before this season's over. So I'm going to Daytona in a
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couple of days and you know try to see what I can come my way
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with for some regionals, you know, I'm I'm looking forward to
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it. I I can't say I'm in 100% shape
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but you know I'm I'm I'm happy the way things are.
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So that that that's not a problem.
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I'll be excited to hear about that because I know one thing,
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you're closer and two is still still good weather down there,
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still good weather down there. So you know what?
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Today. Today.
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I hear about it, yeah. Today's actually kind of chilly,
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man. She's in the 70s today.
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And I'm actually. Oh, wow.
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Yeah, I know that that that that kind of sucks, but it's.
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Cold for you guys, you know it's it's kind.
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Of the 50s forties. Yeah.
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No, I I know. I I've been watching and.
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It's raining. I've been watching the weather
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up there, so I I do know what that's like.
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But no, it's a little bit chilly.
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So I was a little surprised at that 70, but you know what?
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It's still nice. I still can ride, man.
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Listen, I've been down here for almost two months and I've
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already put close to 1000 miles on my multi strata so I'm I'm
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not complaining And then and I just pulled out my heated jacket
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because it's a little chilly because the 70s and in my
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breaking blood, you know, can't take the 70s.
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So I mean shout out to those riders that can ride in below
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75, because after after 75 I'm cold and I I need to turn on
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some heat or have a, you know, three season jacket on a block,
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some of that wind. I just wear long Johns and
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hoodie and my. My jacket.
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That's all. I'll be fine.
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Listen man, you better. Than until it hits like 45
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degrees and then you know you got to put some heated stuff on.
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Yeah, but then again, it's not really fun to ride unless it's
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early in the day and you travel with a group.
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But yeah, our time is getting limited up here in New England.
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Yeah, I guess I'm a Nomad, so I'm OK riding by myself.
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You know as as as long as I'm warm, I'm good to go for sure.
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But let's get into Moto GP because Indonesia, I I mean all
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the classes, you know, Moto 3, Moto 2 and Moto GPI mean, I mean
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we can talk with, we can talk about Moto 3 because as you
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said, you were up, I was up. And you know what?
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What? What were your thoughts?
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Well, I mean I was just just just just watching the race
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pretty much. I wasn't really paying attention
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who was in the standings or anything like that.
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But I must say like they always ride hard every race and it's
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it's cool to see like the different performances in each
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bike and the different strategies because Modal 3, you
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know, it's just like you know riding a 250 that you got to get
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that draft to stay in contention if you break that wind.
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They're fighting against the air, you know, and and like the
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first lap when they came around across the street and it would
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have been a cool picture frame, but they were literally all in a
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straight line, like all the riders and you know, before they
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had to break off. But you know, it really got
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pretty tight at the end and they were bumping and grinding.
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I thought it was pretty cool. But yeah, it was a good race to
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watch, especially staying up, watching it live.
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Yeah, no, you know Diego Moreira, the first Brazilian for
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a long time. But I don't remember if Frankie
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More Badeli was in Moto 3 or not because Frankie more Badeli is
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half Brazilian and and so I heard a commentator saying he's
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the first but shout out to this kid because he he's been riding
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good from great from his rookie year and he you know some bad
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lucks and and Pedro Acosta you know what I'm saying and and you
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know he's been close but shout out to this young kid because I
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mean he was there. Yeah, it was a good race.
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But yeah, I I just thought they all all real well.
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I mean those bites are, I don't know, they're they're they look
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very light. Oh, they're very light.
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They're like, they're like they're like RC390 and you know,
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I mean they're they're very they're very they're very light
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bikes probably, I'm obviously they're lighted in the RC, but
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yeah, no, no, no, they're they're they're definitely small
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light bikes. You see, you see when they move
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them around in the paddock and stuff like that.
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Oh yeah, they just pick them up. Pick them up, Pick them up so
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long. You know what I'm saying?
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I thought it was pretty cool, you know, and and this way they
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just throw it around. I mean, you see it all the time,
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but and everything is challenging.
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They get, I don't know, they just get much closer and more
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risk in the corners than like the GP bikes.
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You know, when it gets tight, it's just yeah, no for sure and
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and and they push it to the limits.
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There's a lot of rubbing this. Weekend, you know, and I.
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Guess I've never rubbed shoulders with a bike yet, so I
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don't know what it feels like. But you know, they do it all the
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time, yeah, No, no, they do it all the time.
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And it was a lot this weekend and you know, a couple of long
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lock penalties and some bad luck for some of the riders.
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But you know Diego, you know he came away with the win and and
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that was definitely like football on two wheels.
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Oh yeah. Even your your guy Anchu was up
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there. Oh no.
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Yeah, he was up there as well. Go ahead.
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Now I was going to say it before I get to him.
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Like Diego, I remember he was in the lead and he.
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Dropped back. Oh no.
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That must have been Messiah. He dropped back all the way to
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8th and jumped back to the front.
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Massey Massey. Yeah, yeah, So.
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But Archie was running up there too.
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And it looks like where they finished the 8th.
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So you know it. It's that with that draft you
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know it's it's the draft the late break in the the literally
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you're pushing people out the way and that you know it's you
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know these guys are fighting for to get some Moto 2 right.
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And you know you we've heard some of the the Moto GP riders
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in the past talk about you know how how and and they've cleaned
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up Moto 3 for sure to let this this year and probably they
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started last year cleaning it up because it was very cutthroat
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and you know riders were getting hurt because they they you know
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you talk about riding on a limit state they were like over the
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limit all the time and you know you still see it now that they
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they have to override these bikes and and put themselves in
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situations where it's kind of descending it right.
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Yeah, they probably tell them don't override it.
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And they're like, yeah, sure. But we all know once you get in
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that race moment, someone starts drifting away from it.
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You don't even realize you push it to them.
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So, exactly. So definitely Moto three was
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definitely exciting. Moto 2, Pedro Costa wanted.
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And you know, I'm, I'm still rooting for Aaron Connett, but
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it that was a very good race as well.
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I mean, I I've been always rooting for Aaron Connett.
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I still wanted to see him win #1.
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Yep, he had pole. And I think he's like he has
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like 11-12 podiums and and not won first place yet, something
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like that. Yeah not won first place and and
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he had pole this race and I just.
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I just. I just don't know.
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I just try to root for him. I'm root for him, but I'm just
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trying to see him win when? Before the year's out yeah.
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But I think if he got on AI think if he got on Acosta's team
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KTMI think you probably see the difference.
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I think, I think Aaron Connett is is a talented rider and and I
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and and I think the disconnect is is the bike itself and the
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set up of the bike and not his riding skill.
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And I also think that. Just being a like you can
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practice and get pole because you did a fastest lap, but when
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it becomes to a race and you're the front runner and you know
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there's 20-30 bikes behind you, it's a whole different beast.
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And and you know Connette has never like let a race and like
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we said, won one. So no, yeah, he's led on.
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He's LED for a lot of laps too, but.
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Oh yeah it's it's just so hard and and we we we know how that
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goes you know as as we get further than this but it's just
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yeah and and and it's interesting because he's he's a
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small rider so I you know Danny Pedroza comes to mind when I
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think of Aaron Kennett so if if he's chewing the tires up I mean
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he he's just really over my I don't want to use the word
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overriding but he's burning that tire up gassing on too not you
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know what I mean and and you know that I think that he runs
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into tired trouble right towards towards the end of the races
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generally and and and the pace but I think you know on a
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different team he he may you know who knows but but he's a
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talented writer so I I think on a different team he he'll have
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better results which is I mean he's finishing he's finishing
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second and third I mean you know it's you know but you know I
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think the top. But you want to be a number one.
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Yeah. No, it's just it's just this
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tough, you know, I just think it's just mentally also a tricky
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game because you know just seeing no one to chase and you
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you want to put in the the best laps out there.
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All those laps is tough. Like I rather chase someone and
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try to make the move towards the end.
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And just talking through club race and I remember it's like
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like Eric Scott Greenwood would. I heard he would just you know
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try to just. Believe you and then and and
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just wear you out. So you give up or you know, some
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people will try to pace it and then just, you know, use the
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energy towards the second-half and try to spread you then.
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And I don't know, it's just someone showed this, but he just
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doesn't pull it out right? And do do you think at this
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point it's a done deal for Pedro?
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Because, I mean, Jake Dixon talks a little bit of trash and
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you know, you got other writers trying to step up, but you know
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it's a different. Not to say it's a different
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rider every every round. But it it seems like, you know
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there's like five or six other guys that they'll show up for
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that weekend that would that one guy would show up for the
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weekend to go against Pedro and then you know two weeks later
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it's another guy. But Pedro is kind of been in the
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mix. No, I mean, I feel like he's
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he's done now. He's like I said he's yeah, I
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mean, he was up 30. 2530 points before this race and he won this
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one again and he wasn't even you know starting pole.
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It just shows like from his mind say he that's why I see why he's
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like, yeah, I need to go through something better.
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Not that it's getting too easy, but, you know, he's kind of
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mastered it and he he. I still think he should stay
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another year, but yeah, I I agree with that waiting part.
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And again, he's on a really good team, so he's getting a really
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good results. I think if he was on a different
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team, he would not yield the same result for sure.
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You know, he'll still be fighting, you know, like you
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know, Mark Marquez and these guys, the talented guys will
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ride around the bikes problems. But at that level, with that
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kind of surgery surgeon type of feel you have to have, you know,
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on a motorcycle to between, you know, coming off the bike and
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staying on the bike, he seems to, you know, wear it very well.
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All right. He's he's he's blowing him out.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so we'll, we'll see what
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happens, you know, we'll see what happens.
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Next year is going to be interesting in Moto GP for sure.
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And you know, hey, let's get into Moto GP, you know?
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I wish I girl was in the mix though he was spin out.
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So yeah, I I agree with you there.
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I agree with you there. I and you know you know it it it
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yeah I agree with you there you you would have think so even on
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you know to go back to Tatsiku Tatsuki Suzuki in Moto 3.
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It's you know these writers they they have good weekends here and
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there. It's kind of like you know Masia
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maybe they have stuff going on in their personal life, maybe
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the pressures of the stain on top, you know that they have
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offseason and also you just have all season.
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It was nice to see Lorenzo Baltazari in Emoto 2 again
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covering for Celestino Viete because he's in the world Super
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Bike now in the Super bike series.
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And you know he he he came out the gate and was it was a fast
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rider Lorenzo and you know and then he had a off time and and
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and hasn't been able to recover and he went to super bike or
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super sport and and and I think he was runner up or third in the
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championship and then moved over to world super bike.
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You know so I I don't know why some of these writers.
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I mean, if not I don't know why. I do know why you people can
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have slumps. It's it's it is what it is.
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It's, you know, it's hard to watch as a fan, right, because
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you're rooting for them. But you, you know, these writers
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do have slumps and I don't know if if if he's in a slump right
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now. I mean he did finish second in
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in in Motege, right. So but even before that he was
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kind of, you know, you know, it's not the best year he's had
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and and and that's unfortunate to see.
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Well, I do know that. Now there's an open seat.
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I don't know if anyone took it yet, but for for Pedro Acosta,
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both those seats are sewn up. Celestino Viate moved over to
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Akiawa and then Dennis Anchu is also Akiawa as well, so it's for
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Moto 2. So that's going to be a dope
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team next year. Yeah, sure.
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That's a good team and they're probably gonna do pretty well.
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I've been rooting for Celestina Celestino, Vietev for a while
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now, so he had a rough year last year.
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You know, the team switched, you know, VR46, they sold A-Team and
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you know he moved over. You know, you know, change is
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not easy for everybody. So I again, I don't know what
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his story was, but he definitely had a slump towards the end of
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last year and you know, most of this year really, and he's a
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top, he should be a top five rider.
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Yeah, I guess you know. New team, new, new beginning.
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Yeah, yeah, so. So that.
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Yeah, Moto GP is going to be dope next year too, with all
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these new new riders and new teams.
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So for sure. And let's get into Moto GP, man,
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because you know the Sprint race.
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Oh hey, Martine dominated. Shout out to the VR46 boys
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second and third, riding wounded with with plates in their
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shoulders. You know what do you think about
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Moto GP before we get into like cuz like you know this year has
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been pretty to me amazing but like what do you think about
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Moto GP because I see some people you know compare Moto GP
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to World Super bike and and and when I when I see it it seems
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like they they they they're making you have to having to
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choose and I love all motorcycle racing it's not I can watch
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everything so I don't I don't need to I'm a fan of all of it
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all you know what I'm saying. I watched the Australian stuff
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the Canadian stuff Motor America BSB.
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You know, I you know what, you know if you're racing tricycles
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and and you're going fast, I'm probably going to watch it.
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So what what do you what do you think about, you know, folks
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comparing Moto GP and World Super Bike?
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I mean, like you said, I like all all the, you know, all the
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racing from BSP to Moto America, World Super Bike, GPI, look at
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GP. It's just, you know, I think all
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the riders, I think they're like robots, superhuman, you know,
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they just get up and run to this second bike.
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I think it's cool that they have two bikes, you know?
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It just makes things much more entertaining and you don't have
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to like, skip a beat. But they get to try new, new
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things. You get the hair, new products
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that they put out if you've never seen before, new wings and
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all this good stuff, right? But one thing I know is we'll
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never, ever be able to test one of these, arrival of these.
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Unless we're lucky, Yeah, but. We watching.
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Yeah, we got the money, but like BSB and we're a super bike.
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It's more of like in our ally. This bikes that you know mostly
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all manufacturers kind of can relate to it more and you know,
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they just they go a little bit harder I think because I don't
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know, it's just that much closer and more, more competition.
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I can't really describe it, but you know, it's more of like a
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street style bike. Compared to you know, prototype
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like the GP, it's like super fast and they own up to.
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But by comparing it, I don't know.
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It's it's hard to compare like with the watches.
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It's just I think what's more entertaining as far as like
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there's the consumer when you like go to a website and what's
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what they show, how more easy it is to see, right?
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No doubt. Yeah.
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So let's get back into the into Moto GP.
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As far as the race in Indonesia, anything you want to talk about
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as far as the Sprint race before we jumped in, jump into the main
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race? Well the guy Bezaki, you know
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after breaking his collar ball and jumping out there you know
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after flying in late after 5 days of hurt himself he did
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pretty well right. It's it's not quite Lorenzo.
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Oh hey Lorenzo, when he broke his collarbone and and flew back
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in the next day because it was the next day type of thing where
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where this he had a week but you know to be on a podium it's
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pretty amazing and. It's like what are they giving
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these guys? And and as as these other right
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as as fourth place all the way to the back when you look in the
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mirror. What do you think?
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Like you're like this dude. These dudes got broken
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collarbones and in in front of me and.
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I know it's this, I know it's this job.
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You know, it's just it's just amazing to see what I'm going to
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say. One of my friends when we went
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to the track fell off and hurt his shoulder and he was done for
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the day because you know, he had like a little contusion and you
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know, he obviously this is not our job.
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So he want to make sure he's different, his real job.
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Took him a couple weeks. And listen man, the fact that
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the fact that he did this in training, broke his collarbone
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and and went and got surgery the same day and five days later
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he's on on practicing and then gets on the podium like there's
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a robot. Yeah, no, it's it's it's pretty
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dope. Definitely dope to see hat goes
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off to those guys. He also he also crashed twice.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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That's true. So, and it's just, I don't know,
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that was really good. Yeah, no, this was really good
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team. Yeah, no doubt.
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Very fast, very fast guy. And then the main race man, I
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was up at 3:00 in the morning. I was.
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I woke up by like 255. And and and and got to the
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computer and and and inflicted on and I'll say shout out to
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Moto GP because the website is probably the best it's been from
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from I've I've I've been watching the the the Moto GP and
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y'all y'all y'all are getting it y'all are getting it.
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So I definitely, it tweaked it a little bit.
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It started off a little bad, yeah, yeah.
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For sure. Yeah, it was terrible.
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I was like, what is this? Who did this?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, a little better.
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Somebody forgot a couple of commas and and and and
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semicolons or something in those in the cold.
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But you know, they I hate to see.
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Like when you click on a race like you don't want to see who's
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winning. Exactly, exactly.
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You know, like like what are they doing?
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Like stop at the click it because I didn't watch it live
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this time. I I watched it later.
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But yeah, I didn't watch social media or anything like that, so.
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Yeah, no, they're they're doing a very, yeah, they're doing a
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very they they they they they're coming to the to the to the
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present. And and probably the future with
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their website so that was exciting to see.
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So yeah, no, I just I I was up at so I missed Moto 2 and I
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missed Moto 3, right? And and so the first race I
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watched was was Moto GP and I was opposite.
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Yeah you know and and and you know I'll let you I'll let you
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go 1st and and you know just tell me what tell me what you
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what you thought and and you know because I might have to
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pull up some old clips when we talk about Ducati and and riders
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but well I try to actually compare this race to last year
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because the reason why I saw Fabio you know running up front
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through practice and qualifying and you know and last year he
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did really well in this race. I think he won.
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I'm not sure if he won but he's on the podium.
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Petco didn't do so well. So like when when he messed up
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in QQ, one where he'd had the fastest lap and then he didn't
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do another one and then and then well.
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It was the right. It was the yellow flag, right?
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So. I think because his lap, that
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that lap didn't count, because I think it was a yellow flag at
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the lap and then he didn't get, he didn't get a chance to do
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another one. I could be wrong.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So he was a little mad at himself.
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So he just put it in the back of the grid and I was just like,
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OK, he doesn't like this track is not his best track, right.
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Well, going into the Sprint, you see what happened?
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He didn't finish that well. So going into the race, so I was
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like, OK, you know, Jorge Martine got this, you know Fabio
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is going to be up there. What a what an amazing start.
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By Ojai Martine, I mean starts R and six on the grid to get first
23:40
in the corner this time like that was that was good start
23:43
that was spot on and I always practice on my my starts as
23:47
well. You know it's just try to time
23:50
everything and just get a good launch.
23:52
It's it feels good right right. Feels good but I thought the
23:56
race was pretty pretty good. It was a nice you know
23:59
entertaining race and you know as the commentators go you know
24:05
when when someone's 3-4 seconds ahead they stop talking about
24:08
him, stop putting camera on him, right.
24:09
You know they think they got so I just like I said I think he is
24:15
just wasn't ready to be in the lead and.
24:19
I was rooting. I was rooting for Maverick
24:21
Veniales, right? And and I and I and I think he
24:24
helped had the pace. But I think that Maverick was a
24:28
is a seasoned rider and he decided to save his tires 'cause
24:33
he was on the oh hey was over the limit and and he was riding
24:37
over the limit and and you mentioned Scott Greenwood
24:39
earlier about starting out and just, you know, beating the life
24:44
out of beating the will out of people with with, with with
24:48
pulling, pulling away, you know, 3-4 seconds.
24:50
So they don't. They just give up and just
24:52
maintain their where they're at. And I think that's what all this
24:56
is. Long, huh?
24:59
3 seconds is not enough for this.
25:01
Enough to slow down, right? Just a little bit, Yeah.
25:04
You know, just try to secure those points like you had three
25:09
seconds. I don't know how many laps are
25:11
left here. It's just disappointing when I
25:13
already fell so. Exactly.
25:15
And and don't get me wrong, Pekko threw away a lot of races
25:17
last year, right? So I think this is the first one
25:20
that Martine is thrown away. But I think it was.
25:24
It is pivotal because if Martine won this, he may have sucked the
25:29
life out of Pekko. It's possible if possible, if if
25:33
it went the other way it would, it would have been his to run
25:37
away with. I'm not sitting here saying
25:38
Martin can't come back for sure because we still got 10 races to
25:41
go, but that. Crash that crash is going to
25:46
stay in the back of his mind like he's going to think don't
25:50
don't mess this up again and and and when you ride like that.
25:55
You're not riding your best. You're riding kind of scared,
25:58
right? Versus and yeah, scared,
26:01
cautious. Yeah, you know, and that's what
26:04
I mean, like that mentality to be up front for 28 laps, that's
26:08
tough. No, it is.
26:09
And he hasn't really done it that much this year, you know?
26:11
And I don't know, Pekko. Yeah, So what they have for for
26:18
pulling that off. Because 13th to 1st when that
26:20
when that happened. When that happened, he was.
26:23
In second. Three seconds.
26:25
No, he was in 3rd, 3rd. It was in 3rd when it happened.
26:28
Yeah, he was like 3 seconds behind Maverick in 3rd place and
26:33
took him a couple of laps and he reeled Maverick in.
26:35
I was like, damn. Yeah, but it's possible he might
26:38
have been able to chase Martin down, too, because.
26:41
Martine had to been eating up his tires again he he crashed
26:44
out. So you can tell that you know he
26:46
was already and even Pekko said in in in post that you know he
26:51
he was already on the limit and and he and and he was just like
26:55
yeah he's kind of riding over the limit.
26:57
So, you know, I think that's where the experience come in
27:03
because again, like last year, Pekko crashed out in the lead a
27:06
few times, right? So more than a few I think.
27:12
I think he crashed out first place maybe.
27:15
Pretty much times. Pretty much all are, yeah.
27:17
All the ones he crashed out. He's the 1st place, yeah, all
27:20
the races crashes in first place, so you know.
27:23
So I guess he doesn't know what that's like, right?
27:26
And he has his experience. Yeah, it's little, it's it's.
27:29
I'm sure he's going to grow from from that now to to his next
27:33
races. I I think so because he opposed
27:35
the sprints off, but. Yeah and and and I think so
27:37
because you think about the beginning of the year, Martine
27:40
especially you know for him, I think losing out to Anaya,
27:46
Bastianini, the factory seat, right And then you know coming
27:50
in to the season and. Not having the results he was
27:56
having at the beginning of the season.
27:58
You know he had to figure it out and and that beat on him.
28:01
And then he, he had this nice run.
28:02
He had the Pekko run, right. He had this nice run.
28:06
But you know I'm not a fan of trash talking right?
28:12
And but you know you don't want to, I find when you talk trash
28:17
and you don't make it till the end of the season.
28:19
It's not a good look. It's better than not to talk
28:21
trash and I and I feel like Martine was getting a little
28:24
chirpy in in in in front of the media right behind the scene is
28:28
one thing right? But in front of the media and
28:31
that's from watching him over the years.
28:34
That's not his MO you know what I mean?
28:36
He's you know and and and so it's it's you know it's it's a
28:42
long season and you got to keep your head and and I in you know.
28:47
It's easy to be at the fall line and thinking you can hit this
28:50
open shot because you've done it 1000 times, but it's different
28:53
when the game is on the line. So, so you saw.
28:58
So every time that happened a pecker, you saw this little walk
29:00
of shame back to the. Yeah, exactly.
29:03
When when Martine crashed, he didn't want to go back.
29:06
He started watching a race. Helmet is still on the fence,
29:11
hole on the fence he was like, all right, he watched on the
29:13
whole lap he watched Panko and all the come by.
29:16
And you know The funny thing is also Zarko crashed in the same
29:21
corner, same exact thing happened.
29:25
So is this someone with the tie like that?
29:27
I hope that didn't like. I don't.
29:29
I don't know. Like I said they don't show
29:31
their tires and we don't know but crashed in the same corner.
29:36
I don't know if they just cruise control.
29:39
I don't know if it's 11 and 13, but there was a two those.
29:42
There was some corners where it seems like a lot of crashes were
29:44
happening and it and it seems like the track was if you're
29:48
offline a bit, was very dirty and and and and and and what it
29:54
seems like. The blame is on The Dirty track
29:57
right and and and running a little bit out and which is I I
30:01
don't know if you can have a a truck that blows the dust off
30:04
before the race start or is it kind of like the elements is the
30:07
elements and survive you know type of thing but you know too I
30:14
don't know. I tried to wear it too.
30:16
It's not a flowing track. Yeah, say again.
30:20
It's not really a flowing track, you were saying.
30:22
It's like, AI don't know, something weird, Yeah.
30:26
Yeah, Have you not, have you not tried it on Moto GP video game
30:29
yet? Oh, oh, I have.
30:31
Yeah, it is kind of, kind of kind of weird.
30:34
It's kind of weird. It's, it's, yeah, it's a little
30:39
different. It is weird.
30:40
I was going to say the the hoggers were offline for sure.
30:43
Yeah. Again.
30:45
Mark, Mark has right. Hand up, that's all he's doing
30:48
is us. Praying to God, you know, it's
30:50
just like, I don't know if he's waiting for the end of the
30:52
season or he's, he's waiting for the end of the season he's done.
30:58
He's trying to be polite. He's he's like, he's like look
31:01
who look what y'all are doing. Come on, like that's pretty, you
31:06
know. Yeah.
31:08
Honda will figure it out. Yeah.
31:09
I'm a hollow figure it out. Say again.
31:12
You know, The funny thing is, that mirror went down again too.
31:14
Yeah, before Taka used to fall a lot, yeah.
31:17
And he hasn't really been talked about, but he's staying up.
31:22
It's kind of weird, but that Honda, like they said, it's just
31:25
not a bike to be on right now. It's just a lot of the crash.
31:31
Taco mangled his his left hand, too, you know, on that bike.
31:35
Marquez mangled his right arm on that bike.
31:38
You know what I mean? And and so, yeah, Taco, yeah, he
31:41
jacks himself up on that bike. So he might not be trying to
31:44
override, you know what I mean? He's, he's, he's just like I'm
31:47
I'm with the bike. This means what I'm going to do
31:49
when I'm going to survive this thing because that's that that
31:54
that's where it is. That's where it is.
31:56
He I mean outside of Mark Marquez, he has the most seat
31:59
time on that bike. Oh, yeah.
32:02
You know, and he's been into some crazy accidents.
32:06
I mean, they all have. But, you know, yeah, like you
32:10
said, he's trying to just survive.
32:12
I mean like Mark can't do that. Mark, that's not his riding
32:16
style. He's all in.
32:18
So you know, I got you see that all the time.
32:21
Yeah, I'll say again, I think Mark Marquez, he's chasing, he
32:24
want #9 and #10. He, he want 10 world titles.
32:28
He got that Kobe mentality. Want one more than Shaq, so you
32:32
think 2023 base going to do it? Listen, if, if anybody can do
32:42
it, Mark Marquez can do it. So you you know what I mean?
32:47
And that's going to be a problem.
32:49
You know what I mean? I I look if, if, if Orge
32:52
Lorenzo, if Ducardia listened to O'Hare in the beginning of the
32:55
first year on that bike, he probably don't want a world
32:59
title, because once they listened to him he was gone.
33:03
But by then it was too late and you know, and now the bike is
33:08
really running really well. I I know Mark Marquez knows he
33:13
has to. I suspect he's going to be on a
33:16
Ducati Panigale every damn day from he can to be ready for the
33:21
next season. Because if that was me, that's
33:24
what I'll be doing. I'll be I'll be at the track
33:27
every day, doing laps on a Panigale, talking to Pekko,
33:30
figure out not breaking, because everybody knows it's about
33:33
breaking. You know everybody.
33:35
Like you know Martine had to figure out breaking Pekko had to
33:38
figure out breaking Bazecki figured it out.
33:42
But it's all about the breaking on that bike and and and yeah
33:46
once once once Marquez figures that out it's a wrap.
33:51
But you know, and so, so, so I mean like 2023 bike versus 24
33:58
bike, you think he's just going to jump into the car and just
34:01
like dominate. I mean, we got a lot of time to
34:05
see. Because, because they they.
34:08
They have the they, they have the data for, They're going to
34:11
have the data from 8 bikes, 8 riders and Peco is going to,
34:15
PECO is going to fight, but Zeke's going to fight.
34:19
Martine is going to fight. I thought Paco was.
34:24
A dog Bastian. He's coming to his own these
34:28
last couple of races, so next year he could be there, but he's
34:32
going to be fighting for his seat as well because that
34:34
factory seats going to be up for grabs at the end of 2024.
34:38
And you know Alex Marquez, I think he's going to figure it
34:41
out. Luca Marini.
34:42
So Luca Marini. Alex Marques is probably going
34:45
to be the two weak links 2 weakest links on Ducati going
34:48
into 2024 at the moment. Right.
34:52
And they still really dope riders and they still got have
34:54
gotten on the podium. So when I say that there's no
34:57
disrespect and yeah they all got to fighting chance.
35:04
They all got to fighting chance and.
35:07
But Mark Mark has. He's a talented writer and I
35:13
can't wait to. See, you know, Peco coming from
35:17
13th to 1st place is the best race to me that he's done.
35:23
To where he's He's come for that far back and and and and and and
35:28
and one. You know, Mark Marquez can do
35:30
that. Valentino Rossi can do that.
35:33
There's a few writers that can do that.
35:35
You know what I'm saying, Brad Bender.
35:37
Yeah, Brad Bender, you know there's.
35:39
But Mark Marquez can do it more consistently.
35:44
You know what I'm saying? And.
35:47
You know, look, you know me as we talk, I'm not a Mark Marquez
35:51
fan. I'm you know, like I'm you know,
35:52
Morassi fan and we can talk about you know 15 and 16 and 17
35:57
in these years and and and and so you know.
36:01
But I've also watched a man go through what he's gone through
36:04
and he moves a different way and he's been humbled by his
36:07
situation. Same with Jorge Lorenzo, who was
36:12
was, was they humbled by their situation?
36:14
Probably Rossi was humbled by his situation as well.
36:17
Because there's the arrogance that kind of happens when you
36:20
just kicking everybody's ass, you know what I'm saying?
36:23
But now he's a different rider and over the years of I've seen
36:27
him go through all this and see how he says and how he's
36:29
carrying himself, he gets it. You know what I mean?
36:32
And and so from looking at how he's been able to ride the Honda
36:36
and still put that bike on the podium, even though it's a bad
36:39
bike, if he figures out that Ducati quick, he's going to be
36:46
up there. He's going to be up there with
36:47
the best of, you know, now. And I will say that, oh, hey,
36:52
Martine rides like a Lorenzo. If he's out front, it's going to
36:55
be hard to catch him. But Mark Marquez does that, and
36:58
Peco does that as well and so does Biseki.
37:01
So you know these, right? These are riders.
37:03
When they out front, they usually don't mess up.
37:07
You know, I think they're going to pick on Mark because they
37:11
don't want him to learn as fast because they know what's coming.
37:15
But I also think that he's still going to be Mark.
37:17
He's going to try to follow Paco and they're going to be, they're
37:21
going to be pissed off at him follow up all the time.
37:23
I just can't wait to. See it?
37:25
I do have one question. Yeah, I was going to say for
37:29
now, Greg, what was you going to say?
37:30
I was going to say I want that launch device that Ducati, that
37:35
Martin and Pekko have. They're the only two riders that
37:38
got that, whatever that is on that Ducati, whatever that, that
37:41
Tron robot or whatever that thing is that's giving them that
37:45
launch. Like that, bro.
37:48
Imagine what? Imagine what all the bikes had,
37:50
all the all the Ducatis have that.
37:52
Come on, did you hear that there's a certain height that
37:56
they can go? What do you mean now there's
37:59
like a a rule, so the when they launch and they and then they
38:02
drop down, they have to go down to a certain inch.
38:05
Oh, got you. They can't go below that.
38:07
It's like, yeah, it's a regulate, it's regulated now.
38:10
I don't know how that matters. To balance the the playing
38:13
field. It's it's what they're doing.
38:15
But no, right now that launch, that whatever, that launch
38:18
devices that they got it like Martine had it hooked up to form
38:25
on Sunday and that he wasn't. Playing that bike just took off
38:29
like like a like a laser, you know, you know it, it Ducati's
38:37
had a bad run for a very long time.
38:39
They only got their first title last year since Casey Stoner.
38:42
So. There's been a long run of bad
38:44
luck of of nobody wanting to be on a duck.
38:47
The bike is unridable, all that. So you know, they may be the
38:50
patriots of Moto GP right now. They you know, and and got Tom
38:55
Brady or a bunch of Tom Bradys in this case because they got
38:58
some dope riders. They're the Cowboys.
39:03
They're the Cowboys because they have die hard fans for so long.
39:06
They've never won. Yeah, but you know Cowboys,
39:11
hopefully they win. But you know they just, but I I
39:14
I think for the next few years, yeah, I think for the next few
39:16
years Ducati's going to have a good little run for the next few
39:19
years. Yeah, I I grew up.
39:22
I grew up knowing about Ducatis. That's the only bike.
39:26
I didn't know Suzuki. I didn't know Honda.
39:29
I knew Kawasaki because of the green, but I knew the red and
39:33
the green. You know and and like you said
39:35
since Casey Stoner and some of now it's just Ducati steal that
39:39
bike. Even on the street everyone
39:41
wants the Ducati. It's just how it's just like
39:43
it's just like you won't bring up sports like Cowboys or it
39:47
could be like the Patriots. Too.
39:48
Yeah, yeah. It's as long as you're getting
39:50
rings, baby. As long as you get rings, die
39:52
hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:54
No doubt. So they're in Australia coming
39:57
up this, I believe it's this weekend in Australia.
40:02
You know, Pekko's healthy. Pretty much every rider has
40:07
everything figured out. I will say this, I I feel for
40:11
Digin, Antonio. I do.
40:13
I feel for him. He finished fourth over the
40:15
weekend and he's been running his butt off.
40:19
He you know, most might say, hey bro, you should have probably
40:22
did that last year and you know, but it it's the level of the
40:32
level where Motor GP is right now, it it if you don't produce
40:37
in your rookie season, if you're not doing better than season
40:40
riders in your rookie season, it's really hard to keep your
40:43
seat. Yeah, I mean, I mean it.
40:50
I don't know what they do to train or I don't.
40:53
It's just the competition level. It's it's hard to keep a seat,
40:57
you know, it's I mean. I mean, you see, like, I don't
41:00
want to be off top of it again. But like Cameron Beaubier, like
41:05
his, his vision was different even though he had a seat, you
41:09
know, and he, he chose the withdrawal himself, you know,
41:15
hard, hard to keep a seat either way, you know, But it's yeah,
41:19
it's hard to hard to keep a seat.
41:20
You got to perform all the time. Yeah, it is.
41:23
So I I do feel bad for him. I suspect he probably going to
41:26
end up in World Super Bike or something like that.
41:28
But you know, you know there's a lot of talented riders and it's
41:33
about money. I and I get it and you know it's
41:35
hard. You know especially the level of
41:37
riders that's been coming out of motor two these last few years
41:40
is and coming into Moto GP and really dominating is is the
41:45
level is, is, is not like I've seen in a while or or maybe even
41:50
ever. And so I I get it.
41:52
But no it's tough to say because it's because he's a talented
41:55
rider and you know Remy Gardner, you know Ikolukuono, you know
42:01
even Yo and even Zako initially with KTM.
42:05
You know it's it's you know that's the that's the downside
42:09
of these riders pole what's going on with Polo Sprogo even
42:11
though he's going to contract next year you know that that's
42:15
the that's the you know that's the you know we're all humans at
42:18
the end of the day and I think that's what did did did Gian
42:21
Antonio you know just said hey you know through all this I'm
42:24
I'm human you know so it's like you know that you know we're
42:27
commentating and talking about them and and and they they want
42:30
better for themselves and we as fans and even the teams they
42:33
want better and you know one reason or another it's not there
42:38
and you know this guy's out of a seat in two years of Moto GP and
42:42
he you know he's a top 15 rider. Yeah, that's another thing like
42:47
how we start off and again comparing the two.
42:50
So like when this happens in Remy Gardner and you know they
42:54
go to World Super Bike, now I want to watch World Super Bike,
42:57
I want to watch see how they're performing in World Super Bikes.
43:00
So it's just I got to jump back and forth.
43:03
So that's how a little bit another way of comparing.
43:06
Oh for sure. It it definitely because you
43:10
know there's I think this is a, you know the most motor GP
43:13
riders that's been in World Super Bike in a long time.
43:16
You know. Yeah, you know you got Gardner,
43:21
you got Petrucci, you know you got Ikoluko, Ono, you got Viete,
43:28
You know you got these guys that are in Baltazari.
43:32
You know all these riders to do that rant.
43:36
You know Nikolai Bulaga, all these guys that that came that
43:41
you know and for whatever reason whether they whether it's just
43:45
personality or whatever the case may be you know they're they're
43:48
not in in in the top thing anymore And you know it's it's
43:53
Motorsports, it's people it's it's awesome that there's other
43:57
places to go. So these riders still has has
44:00
have have opportunities and and and and stuff like that.
44:03
But like these guys are young, you know, it's not like they've
44:06
been in Moto GP for 10 for 10 years and they're getting out.
44:10
These guys are two years in Moto GP, one year in Moto GP and and
44:14
they're out. Yeah, that sucks and it's going
44:18
to be hard to get back. But you know, they got the Moto
44:21
GP fight and yeah, no, it's like getting to the NBA for one year
44:24
or two years or you know, recording one album and and
44:28
that's it. You know, it's like you didn't
44:31
get this chance to shine and and you know and these riders will
44:34
go on and do great things. You look at what Alvarez doing
44:38
in in the World Super Bike right now.
44:42
Yeah, he was. He was in GP years ago, Yeah,
44:44
you know what I mean? So it it it definitely, you
44:48
know, the sport does get better overall, but I do feel bad for
44:51
these riders that make it and only get one or two years and
44:54
they'll get the opportunity to to to do a little bit more.
44:59
So all right, man, I have to get ready for Daytona and I think I
45:03
got more racing this weekend. I got one question before we go.
45:08
I see is about to wrap up. So you know how Rossi went from
45:13
Honda to Yamaha, but he kept his colors right.
45:19
So when Marquez goes to Grassini, those colors are like
45:26
completely opposite. What?
45:28
What do you think Mark is going to take with him?
45:30
Is he going to have some orange in him like he's going to have
45:33
the the helmet? What do you think he's going to
45:35
take with him? Well, I I think if you are, if
45:40
he takes any color with him, he's copying Rossi because Rossi
45:43
is the first guy to really do that to he's.
45:45
Going to take a little orange or keep the spider helmet, spider
45:48
man helmet, he'll keep the spider helmet and because
45:52
there's red in in in Grassini, so I think he'll play with that
45:57
and I think if anything he'll keep the orange if he for number
46:01
plate or something like that. But it's going to be tricky
46:04
because you know it Honda and Ducati.
46:07
So you know it's one thing where yeah Rossi was yellow and that
46:11
wasn't that wasn't Honda, that was just Rossi.
46:14
So if it if it if it smells like Honda, I don't think, I don't
46:17
know how much Ducati is going to be like you can do that.
46:21
It's going to be interesting to see, but yeah, hope you have a
46:24
good time. In Daytona and yeah I want to
46:30
see what's let us know what happened get some medals.
46:33
Well that's the that's that's the plan man.
46:35
That's the plan. We'll see it's you know there's
46:38
it's it's never easy. My name is X-45.
46:43
My name is TJ with two wells and coffee.
46:45
Peace alright. Peace out.