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Ep. 17: Colts Insider Perspective for Week 1 | Jags A.M. Podcast · Jags A.M.

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Speaker 1: Welcome, and you guys were here on jag z A.
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Speaker 1: I'm kind Nannie Stevens with Brian Sexton John Osier as
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Speaker 1: we get ready for the Colts this week, you guys,
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Speaker 1: I know, we've been talking kind of generally about if
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Speaker 1: we're really gonna deep dive today, and we're gonna get
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Speaker 1: an insider in with us as well in terms of
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Speaker 1: a player specifically, who are you guys kind of looking
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Speaker 1: at in terms of the cults as someone you're game
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Speaker 1: planning for or who could be problematic for the Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson obviously is whoever was looking at right the quarterback,
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Speaker 2: but for me, whoever is being covered or whoever is
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Speaker 2: covering Jay Jones, because I think Zay is primed to
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Speaker 2: have a big game.
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Speaker 3: I'll go Michael Pittman. Now the wide receiver. Anthony Richardson
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Speaker 3: is one everybody's got to watch in order to be interesting.
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Speaker 1: I'll say, all right, so we'll go over some of
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Speaker 1: our big things today. Our first big thing is going
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Speaker 1: to be pushed to start, because as we've been talking
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Speaker 1: about having a fast start, the team really needs to
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Speaker 1: focus on getting the offensive offense going quickly and not
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Speaker 1: just a fast start, but also a clean start for them,
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Speaker 1: and Doug head coach Doug Peterson talked a little bit
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Speaker 1: about that yesterday. Well, Doug kind of went over with
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Speaker 1: us at least yesterday in his press conference, saying, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you want to a fast start, but you want to
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Speaker 1: finish fast as well. And I think for him, as
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Speaker 1: much as we've hammered home that fast art, he also
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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, let's play a full complete game out there.
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Speaker 2: How much have we talked about it. I mean, fast
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Speaker 2: start is something every team talks about john every year,
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Speaker 2: and you want to get it going and see if
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Speaker 2: you can do that. But what matters most is what
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Speaker 2: Doug was saying yesterday is that we played consistently well
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Speaker 2: through the course of the game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't start horrifically slow last year. I get
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Speaker 3: the sense of when they talk about the fast starts,
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Speaker 3: it's exactly that they want to see consistency. Obviously, the
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Speaker 3: Chargers game was a slow start. You're down twenty seven nothing,
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Speaker 3: so it's not necessarily the first drive. So I went
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Speaker 3: back and looked at this and they weren't down at
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Speaker 3: halftime all that much out of out of kilter with
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Speaker 3: their schedule. But I think they want to not be
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Speaker 3: trailing by double digits in the second half the season
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Speaker 3: so much so I think I think it's going to
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Speaker 3: be a completely different offense and a completely different feel
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Speaker 3: when this team starts games this year. I don't think
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Speaker 3: they'll have to worry about a fast start once we
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Speaker 3: get into two or three weeks to this thing.
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Speaker 2: And do you know what, I think, really another way
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Speaker 2: of saying it is clean, right. That was what they
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Speaker 2: were talking about, the coaches and the players before the first,
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Speaker 2: not the first, the third preseason game against the Dolphins.
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Speaker 2: They want to go out and execute well, not make mistakes,
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Speaker 2: not make penalties, not create issues. So I think if
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Speaker 2: they're clean, that could be considered a fast start. We
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Speaker 2: saw how well that worked against.
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Speaker 1: Miami, absolutely, and I think sometimes we don't. We forget
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Speaker 1: about the defense, right, So fast start for them is
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Speaker 1: not getting the team down by two touchdowns right out
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Speaker 1: of the gate. So that's something to consider as well.
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Speaker 1: Our second big thing heard from Trevor yesterday, So it's
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Speaker 1: a little bit about winning being everything because we talk
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Speaker 1: a lot about stats. Obviously, some of them have big
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Speaker 1: contracts coming up. Trevor included they're on their last year
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Speaker 1: or their dealer, they're looking for extensions, and while they
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Speaker 1: do that, they really are focused on winning. I know
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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a cliche, but when we
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Speaker 1: hear from the players and you feel they actually mean it,
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Speaker 1: at least when I feel it's very genuine and Trevor
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Speaker 1: speaking yesterday saying none of that really matters to them
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Speaker 1: as long as they get to win.
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Speaker 4: Of course, we all want to we all want to
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Speaker 4: have good stats, and we want to play well. Like
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Speaker 4: that's'd be ideal you do that in win the game.
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Speaker 4: But when we're talking about guys like you should always
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Speaker 4: if you win the game, doesn't really matter what your
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Speaker 4: stat line is, even if you have one catch, no catches.
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Speaker 4: If I, you know, threw a pick through two picks
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Speaker 4: and we win, obviously I'm not gonna be happy with
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Speaker 4: my performance, but I'm gonna celebrate with the team. I'm
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Speaker 4: going to be happy we won the game. That's what
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Speaker 4: this league's about. It's hard to win. So when you
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Speaker 4: find ways to win. You know, that's the cool thing
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Speaker 4: about our team is we enjoy it. You know, we
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Speaker 4: understand that it's hard to win, and we have that
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Speaker 4: perspective of it's not really about personal stats individual stats.
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Speaker 4: It's about the team.
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Speaker 1: Obviously. You know Trevor's super unselfish, but John, I feel
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Speaker 1: like we see that a lot in the receiver room specifically,
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Speaker 1: there's so much talent there. But you really do feel
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Speaker 1: like they want each other to be successful.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know how. If somebody asked me after
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Speaker 3: this show, well, how do you know what you're saying
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Speaker 3: is true? I don't know if i'd have an answer.
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Speaker 3: But in talking to these guys, there is a feeling
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Speaker 3: of commitment to each other and commitment to the cause
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Speaker 3: if you will that. Frankly, you don't feel on every team,
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Speaker 3: and I think it combines with sort of an energy.
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Speaker 3: It's still fresh from last year. This all still feels
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Speaker 3: new and moving up, if that makes any sense. So, yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's real. These guys do want numbers, especially the wide
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Speaker 3: receivers all right, receivers numbers, But within the concept of that,
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Speaker 3: it's as team oriented and supportive a group as I've
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Speaker 3: ever been around.
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Speaker 2: They know they're good, right, They understand that this is
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Speaker 2: a good team. They also know, JOHNA We've talked about this,
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Speaker 2: that they're not likely all to be together for very
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Speaker 2: long because of the salary cap and the way that
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Speaker 2: it works, and so you just get the sense that
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Speaker 2: they understand that there's something special here with this group.
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Speaker 2: It's not going to say Jones about it yesterday, and
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Speaker 2: they understand that there's going to be days where they
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Speaker 2: have big games like they did against Dallas last year,
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Speaker 2: or there'll be a big game where Christian Kirk or
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Speaker 2: Evan Ingram comes through. I think they're all willing to
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Speaker 2: be part of it because they understand that they're a
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Speaker 2: good team that can do something special, but only if
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Speaker 2: they get out of their own way and start not
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Speaker 2: caring about who plays well but that the team wins.
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Speaker 3: I think what Christian said the other day, I mean interrupt,
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Speaker 3: but on Monday, when he was asked about Jacksonville, he went,
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Speaker 3: you know, for a couple of minutes on just what
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Speaker 3: it means to him to be here and chance to
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Speaker 3: be a part of this. I have Zay Jones and
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Speaker 3: the ozone podcast later on today. I'm gonna skae him
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Speaker 3: the same thing. There does more than a lot of
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Speaker 3: teams I've been around. There's a feeling of guys, even
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Speaker 3: beyond being professional football players and getting paid, there's a
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Speaker 3: feeling of this is has a chance to be pretty
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Speaker 3: cool to be a part of this for a while,
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Speaker 3: and maybe this is what I'm gonna remember about my career.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to remember myself as a Jaguar during this time,
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Speaker 3: even if I go other places. I think Ingram feels that.
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Speaker 3: It feels to me like Zay feels that does that's unique.
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Speaker 3: And again I don't know how I would prove it,
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Speaker 3: but you feel it from these guys.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll second it, right. I mean the thirty years
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Speaker 2: each of us doing this, I don't know that I've
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Speaker 2: ever felt it, but this is a special room.
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Speaker 1: And all those guys you mentioned, you know, evan Za, Christian,
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Speaker 1: They've played other places where they didn't win and where
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Speaker 1: maybe stats were more important, so they know the difference.
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Speaker 1: And I think that gives it a little more credence
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Speaker 1: when you hear them say it, because they've lived the
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Speaker 1: other side of that coin, so rings a little more trip.
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Speaker 1: All right. A final big thing today is going to
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Speaker 1: be everyone's got one because everybody's got an opinion about
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Speaker 1: this team. We obviously have shared ours with you, and
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Speaker 1: everybody's been hyping them up a little bit more than
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Speaker 1: maybe we're used to around here, but Trevor says, they're
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Speaker 1: not really listening to it.
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Speaker 4: Everyone always asks about expectations and how you deal with them,
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Speaker 4: Like you don't really deal with them, you just don't
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Speaker 4: listen to them. Like, what doesn't matter what you know?
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Speaker 4: This guy said over here, he's not in our locker room.
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Speaker 4: He's not a part of our team. And even if
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Speaker 4: you said something good, we go out and lose Sunday,
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Speaker 4: everyone's like, oh, I told you they weren't going to
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Speaker 4: be and agains. It doesn't really matter, you know what
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Speaker 4: people say or you know, so we just have to
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Speaker 4: keep our ship tight. And I think that's the biggest
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Speaker 4: thing that coach has done a good job of is
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Speaker 4: making sure we do that and managing all those expectations,
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Speaker 4: because that's just it's they're not real. It's not a
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Speaker 4: real thing. You know. We have to go play every
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Speaker 4: Sunday and put our best foot forward. And you can't
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Speaker 4: do that if you're listening to what other people are saying.
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Speaker 1: They're clearly blocking it all out. Are we at the
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Speaker 1: point now where we just got to play football? Like
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Speaker 1: there's just no nothing left to say?
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Speaker 2: So John, you know this because you've covered some really
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Speaker 2: great teams. Great teams don't care about opinions. They don't
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Speaker 2: worry about They drive our world here, right, they drive
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Speaker 2: the media conversation with the fans, but they don't do
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Speaker 2: anything on that side of the whole way. When you
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Speaker 2: don't have a good team and people's opinion of you
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Speaker 2: is not very high, well then you get your dander
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Speaker 2: up a little bit about it. But when you're good,
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Speaker 2: you couldn't care less.
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Speaker 3: I think Trevor's just happy he didn't lose to Duke.
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Speaker 2: Sore spot spot where that's an opinion he might not like.
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Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we're going to go across the
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Speaker 1: sidelines if you will get our Cults Insider here as
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Speaker 1: we preview Sunday's Game one matchup in Indianapolis. Stay with us.
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Speaker 1: in the Hyundai studios and going across the sidelines today
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Speaker 1: because we're going to check in with our Cults insider
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Speaker 1: Michael Chappell, an old friend of John's. We know, thank
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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us today. We're excited to
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Speaker 1: kind of talk to our divisional friends, and check out
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Speaker 1: what's going on up in India. Michael, What what are
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Speaker 1: you looking at? When we always like to see the
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Speaker 1: outside perspective? What what have you seen in terms of
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Speaker 1: what the Jaguars are bringing to the table this season?
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Speaker 5: They seem loaded. I talked I talked to John earlier
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Speaker 5: in the week, and for so many years no offense Jacksonville.
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Speaker 5: But for so many years it was this is the
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Speaker 5: year they're gonna get it right. This is the year
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Speaker 5: that the pieces are in place, and expectations were high,
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Speaker 5: and it didn't happen for whatever reason. I look at
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Speaker 5: this different because really two reasons. Coach, quarterback, you seem
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Speaker 5: to have hit it right on both and you have
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Speaker 5: you have to have a good coach, but you gotta
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Speaker 5: have a good quarterback. You've gotta have a quarterback you
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Speaker 5: can rely on. Look at all the great teams and
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Speaker 5: John and I hereward were in Indy for the Manning years,
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Speaker 5: and that quarterback makes anything possible. Trailing thirty five to
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Speaker 5: fourteen to five minutes to play, you can't win. Well
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Speaker 5: he did. So that quarterback gives you chances and as
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Speaker 5: and you've got young talent, you know, at the skill positions,
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Speaker 5: which which again that's when you build a team. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: have defensive line, office run, I understand that, but to
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Speaker 5: have impact players at skill positions or on the edge
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Speaker 5: of the defense, that's what gives I think the outside
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Speaker 5: world reason to believe that they've they've gotten it right
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Speaker 5: this time.
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Speaker 1: When we go up against a rookie quarterback. We just
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Speaker 1: trying to get your perspective what you hear from Anthony
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Speaker 1: Richardson every day. Obviously some of the Florida fans down
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Speaker 1: here are a little bit familiar with him, but he
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Speaker 1: didn't play you know, a ton of snaps in college.
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Speaker 1: So what have you guys seen from him so far?
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Speaker 1: And is he ready to go for Sunday?
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Speaker 5: Well, we'll see. I mean, it's history is not kind
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Speaker 5: to rookie quarterbacks. I think Colt's rookies are like thirty
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Speaker 5: five percent winning percentage for their you know, as a rookie.
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Speaker 5: In one stat that sort of tells you the history
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Speaker 5: is this team's had one rookie quarterback win the season opener,
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Speaker 5: and that was George Shaw in nineteen fifty five. So
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Speaker 5: you know, it doesn't happen often. But from what you've
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Speaker 5: seen individually or personally. You like the temperament. He's very
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Speaker 5: well grounded. He moved his family up here, family and
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Speaker 5: invited us up here because he knew he needed, you know,
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Speaker 5: that foundation around him. But it's not too big for
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Speaker 5: him coming from Gainesville in that atmosphere. I mean, he
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Speaker 5: was exposed, even though it was a fear, he was
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Speaker 5: exposed to that. On the field, we'll see he's sort
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Speaker 5: of been what we all thought he's been. This isn't
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Speaker 5: Peyton Manning coming in here and the ball never hitting
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Speaker 5: the ground in practice and he just looks like he
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Speaker 5: owned the team. Not quite the same. You know, he
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Speaker 5: was a fifty three percent passer in college. Well that's
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Speaker 5: what we've seen. We've seen the inaccuracies, we've seen the
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Speaker 5: strong arm, we've seen snippets of the leg, what he
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Speaker 5: can do with in the run game. But you don't
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Speaker 5: do all of that in preseason. And it's hard to
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Speaker 5: early tell in camp because you're not taking guys to
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Speaker 5: the ground. But but what what he does, he gives
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Speaker 5: them hope and to have that after going through this
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Speaker 5: cycle of you know, Carson Wentz and Matt Ryan and
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Speaker 5: Philip Rivers and Kobe were setting on and on the
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Speaker 5: franchise needs hope, it needs it needs a direction sort
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Speaker 5: of what Trevor Lawrence gave you guys last year or
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Speaker 5: two years ago. When you've got the young quarterback, now
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Speaker 5: you've got to be right. If you're not right, you're
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Speaker 5: setting back another six to eight years. But we have
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Speaker 5: seen things to say, you know, maybe maybe this is
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Speaker 5: the right guy, and if he is, this can work.
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Speaker 5: If not, it's going to be a long haul getting
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Speaker 5: back to being competitive, Chap.
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Speaker 3: Is it too extreme to say that this team goes
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Speaker 3: from a great running team to a so so running
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Speaker 3: team without Jonathan Taylor? And will he ever play for
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Speaker 3: the Colts again?
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Speaker 5: Two good questions people up here, people are nationally they said, well,
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Speaker 5: you know, he's just another guy. No, he's a great
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Speaker 5: running back. He's top I know, I think top three,
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Speaker 5: and we can argue that. But to think that they're
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Speaker 5: going to go from you know, one of the top
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Speaker 5: two or three running teams in the league to staying
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Speaker 5: the same without him is ridiculous. I mean, Jacksonville's defensive coordinator,
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Speaker 5: you think when they look at the Colts this week,
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Speaker 5: they're saying, you know, we got to pay attention to
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Speaker 5: that running back. No, they're saying quarterback when he gets
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Speaker 5: on the edge its quarterback. Will you ever play here?
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Speaker 5: I don't know. I want to say yes because I
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Speaker 5: need someone to tell me how it behooves anybody to
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Speaker 5: sit out a season, and if he's on pup all year,
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Speaker 5: the contract calls and here we are again. So I
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Speaker 5: kind of thought they would have I guess this dumping
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Speaker 5: before rosters were when they had that self imposed deadline
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Speaker 5: and just get what you could. Maybe they still do,
14:05
Speaker 5: you know, I mean the trade deadlines watched October thirty first,
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Speaker 5: that can still happen. I think it's very, very risky
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Speaker 5: no matter what quality of employee you have, and this
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Speaker 5: is this is a great level employee. But just make
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Speaker 5: him work for you, you know, no, you know you
14:23
Speaker 5: signed a contract and you're gonna play for us, or
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Speaker 5: you're not gonna play. The team has deliveries that they do,
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Speaker 5: but it's not very healthy to force somebody to work
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Speaker 5: for you. And that's kind of where they're going to
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Speaker 5: be in a couple of weeks when he comes off up,
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Speaker 5: if he comes off.
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Speaker 3: Up, Mike.
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Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, not too long ago, the
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Speaker 2: Colts offensive line was a dominant force. Easy to say,
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Speaker 2: maybe the second or best, third best.
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Speaker 1: In the league.
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Speaker 3: Last year they fell off.
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Speaker 2: Why now that you look back at it, and do
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Speaker 2: they have the ability to return to that level since
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Speaker 2: so many of those players are still around.
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Speaker 5: Well, it's the same group that finished season, the same
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Speaker 5: starting five that gave up sixty sacks last year. They
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Speaker 5: miscalculated at left tackle.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 5: They went with Matt Pryor, who had never been a
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Speaker 5: full time left tackle anywhere, and with Danny penn Or
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Speaker 5: at right guard, and neither one worked. Both were binge
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Speaker 5: before too long. And then I left tackle. They went
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Speaker 5: with Bernard Ryman, a rookie who wasn't ready. He just
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Speaker 5: wasn't ready. So that's that. That was a failing on
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Speaker 5: their part, and they paid the price. The quarterbacks paid
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Speaker 5: the price, the offense paid the price. They're they're anticipating
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Speaker 5: Bernard Ryman really stepping up in a year two. And
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you the best compliment I can give him
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Speaker 5: from training camp is we never noticed him, which you know,
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Speaker 5: it's kind of like the umpire. If he didn't knows them,
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Speaker 5: they did a good job and that that's he's played well.
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Speaker 5: He'll get tested this week obviously, but there then they're
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Speaker 5: expecting that those cornerstones Quentin Nelson, Ryan Kelly and Braden
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Speaker 5: Smith to have bounce back years. That's fine, it's just
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Speaker 5: there's but there's not much proven depth behind them. They
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Speaker 5: lose Danny Penner to an ankle injury for the season,
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Speaker 5: and that's a major loss. And as good as he's
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Speaker 5: been at times, you shouldn't say, boy, we really missed
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Speaker 5: this guy. But the depth is very questionable. And I
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Speaker 5: think it was in twenty nineteen all starters played sixteen games.
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Speaker 5: Well that that happens like once every twenty years, so
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Speaker 5: they're gonna need depth. I think the line will be better.
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Speaker 5: I really do that much better. We'll see again. Losing
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Speaker 5: Taylor doesn't help. It just doesn't help. But I think
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Speaker 5: I think the line, whatever their problems are this year,
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Speaker 5: and there will be problems, I don't think the line
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Speaker 5: will be top three in problems. I really don't.
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Speaker 3: How do the Colts win Sunday? Mit?
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Speaker 5: Oh boy uh. I'd pull out the Dean Smith's for
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Speaker 5: a corner and try to shorten the game as much
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Speaker 5: as I could. They can't get in a shootout in
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Speaker 5: Jacksonville's They're just loaded offensively with with skilled people that somebody,
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Speaker 5: somebody is gonna be on. I mean, whether it's one
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Speaker 5: or two guys or whatever. This is. This is a
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Speaker 5: very mismatched defense right now. Young corners, young secondary and
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Speaker 5: very good front seven. But don't turn the ball over.
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Speaker 5: Find a way to run the ball, make plays when
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Speaker 5: you have to, but do not under any circumstances getting
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Speaker 5: in the get in the shoe. That with Trevor Lawrence.
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Speaker 1: All right, Michael, thank you. If anybody knows, we know
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Speaker 1: that things can turn around quickly as they did here
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, so we wish the same for you. We'll
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Speaker 1: see you on Sunday in Indian Thank you for joining us.
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Speaker 1: Coming up later, thank you. All right, later on we're
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Speaker 1: gonna go over He will, he won't. He might as
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Speaker 1: presenting he will He won't. He might for us this
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Speaker 1: week as he walks ahead and pick our players of
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Speaker 1: the game and what we think they're gonna do. So, Brian,
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Speaker 1: who did you pick this seak?
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Speaker 2: I'm going with Tyson Campbell and he will shut down
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Speaker 2: Pittman or Pierce or whoever lines up across here. They'll
18:12
Speaker 2: have some catches, but they won't be game changing sorts
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Speaker 2: of catches. And it's easier to say obviously this week
18:18
Speaker 2: because you're not sure that the quarterback can make those
18:20
Speaker 2: games changing kind of throws. He will not, will not
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Speaker 2: allow anything to get behind him. Remember last year, the
18:27
Speaker 2: Jaguars had the lead in this ball game with two
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Speaker 2: minutes to play and Chack Griffin let everything get behind
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Speaker 2: him and cost them to win. And I think he
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Speaker 2: might end the season john as a top five corner
18:37
Speaker 2: in the AFC. You think about Sauce Gardner and Pats
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Speaker 2: er Tan and Marlon Humphrey, I think he fits right
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Speaker 2: in there. People are gonna point to Jalen Ramsey in Miami,
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Speaker 2: although he probably won't play this year until it's too
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Speaker 2: late to be a factor in this thing. I think
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Speaker 2: Tyson Campbell, based on what we've seen from him both
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Speaker 2: last year and then training camp in preseason this year,
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Speaker 2: I think he is poised to join the conversation as
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Speaker 2: one of the best young corners in the AFC.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think he's definitely got that. I think
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Speaker 3: he's right on the outside of that. If he's even
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Speaker 3: on the outside of that right now. But I think
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Speaker 3: I think he'd be in the conversation.
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Speaker 2: And but Sir Tan Gardner the two he joins, right Luffer,
19:14
Speaker 2: he's been around for a couple of years, and obviously
19:16
Speaker 2: Jalen has two. But Sir Tan and Gardner the two
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Speaker 2: there one point two and say they're the best young
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Speaker 2: corners in football. And I think Tyson Kimbell belongs right there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I went with Travis etn he will
19:30
Speaker 3: be ready, and obviously they're all ready. But didn't you
19:34
Speaker 3: guys watching this preseason get an idea the entire offense
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Speaker 3: is this way, but that Travis's is just ready to roll.
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Speaker 3: And as one of these guys who in his third year
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Speaker 3: is saying, Okay, now I can really show what I am,
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Speaker 3: and I think what he is is gonna be really special.
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Speaker 3: He won't although Doug Peterson said it during the preseason,
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Speaker 3: he won't be a sixteen sixteen hundred yard rushing guy,
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Speaker 3: not that he's not capable of tank Bigsby in this offense.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that you're gonna get enough opportunities for
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Speaker 3: Travis to get to that level, but he might wind up.
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Speaker 3: I was asked earlier this week who I thought the
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Speaker 3: MVP outside of Trevor Lawrence would be for this team,
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Speaker 3: and I think it went with Ridley. But the more
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Speaker 3: you think about it, it might be Etn. Even with
20:23
Speaker 3: Bigsby cutting into his numbers a little bit. I see
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Speaker 3: Travis possibly having maybe about the same yards he had
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Speaker 3: last year eleven hundred ish, but that touchdown number, and
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Speaker 3: that if there was a stat for memorable plays, yeah,
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Speaker 3: things that mattered, he might be it. I mean, in
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Speaker 3: that Miami game, there was something about the way he
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Speaker 3: ran that was different than a rookie, and he always
20:48
Speaker 3: had the explosiveness. He's always tougher than anybody gives them
20:52
Speaker 3: credit for because he's not huge. I just think this
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Speaker 3: running game as a whole was going to surprise people.
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Speaker 3: Etn's guy has been a little overlooked in preseason. That
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Speaker 3: might just explode this year.
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Speaker 2: Look my disagreement with Doug on the sixteen hundred yards
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Speaker 2: was I mean, that's Fred Taylor, that's Maurice Jones drew.
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Speaker 2: I hadn't seen that from Travis, but I saw that
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Speaker 2: style of running. I saw that kind of production in
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Speaker 2: very limited fashion against Miami, and I thought, well, he's
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Speaker 2: running like those two guys, so maybe he can't. Here's
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Speaker 2: where I think he might be the MVP. He's a
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Speaker 2: mismatched nightmare, right, He, unlike Bigsby, is a guy who
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Speaker 2: I Bigsby can catch the ball, don't get me wrong
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Speaker 2: on this, but he looks like he can go line
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Speaker 2: up in the slot, he can come in motion, do
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Speaker 2: the jet screen. There's a lot of different things you
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Speaker 2: could do with him in the passing game with Bigsby
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Speaker 2: on the field, which will create mismatches with safeties and
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Speaker 2: linebackers that could give him a lot of those memorable
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Speaker 2: plays that you talked about.
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Speaker 3: I's gonna be really interesting this year to watch formations
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Speaker 3: where they line guys up tight ends in the backfield,
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Speaker 3: tight ends on that. I mean, it's gonna be nuts,
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Speaker 3: and I think it's gonna be a topic by week four,
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Speaker 3: and it's to be a topic of the people in
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Speaker 3: the NFL t talking about how diverse and explosive this offense.
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Speaker 2: I've said it before. The guy that I liked watching
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Speaker 2: the most in terms of how he deployed his offense
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Speaker 2: with personnel and groups and positions was always Kyle Shanahan
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Speaker 2: until Doug Peterson showed up. And now with all the
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Speaker 2: weapons that he's got, I think he's going to be
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Speaker 2: a lot of fun to watch every Sunday. How he
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Speaker 2: creates mismatches and gets the guys he wants the ball.
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch.
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Speaker 1: The options are seemingly endless. Press Taylor and Doug Peterson
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Speaker 1: are going to have a lot of fun with it.
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Speaker 1: For my he will, he won't. He might have picked
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Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd because I've been so impressed with him in
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Speaker 1: training camp so far. So I'm going to say he
22:32
Speaker 1: will have an interception on Sunday because there will be
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Speaker 1: interceptions on Sunday and no one else that I would
22:38
Speaker 1: expect to be involved in it other than Devin Lloyd
22:40
Speaker 1: because he'll be all around in the middle. He might
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Speaker 1: lean the team in tackles because he's really been flying
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Speaker 1: around and doing his best. Foyer if he will of
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Speaker 1: just inserting himself into every play on defense, and you're
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Speaker 1: not going to be disappointed. I really feel that we've
22:52
Speaker 1: talked a lot about a second year John for some
22:53
Speaker 1: of these guys in their second season in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: and everything I've seen from Devin makes me believe that
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Speaker 1: we are going to see the devinoid we saw maybe
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Speaker 1: that first chunk of the season, before he got hurt
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Speaker 1: and before some things went awry the second half. I
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Speaker 1: really feel that's what we're going to be seeing from you.
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Speaker 2: That he is a gifted player. Last year, it took
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Speaker 2: him time to integrate, and I talked to coaches and players,
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Speaker 2: guys who've done this before, and they said that people
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Speaker 2: don't realize the coverages that you run in the NFL
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Speaker 2: and how different they are, the complexities of an offense.
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Speaker 2: They just don't have time in college football to put
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Speaker 2: in and to expect him to then adjust to that
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Speaker 2: and the speed of the game. It was too much
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Speaker 2: to ask. But when you look at him now, I
23:34
Speaker 2: don't think it is too much to ask. I think
23:36
Speaker 2: you're right on.
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Speaker 3: If he's that guy. This is a different defense, and
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Speaker 3: he had stats early last year, but I don't think
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Speaker 3: anybody around the team would tell you that he was
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Speaker 3: one of the guys who was making the defense better.
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Speaker 3: If he was very hard for rookies to do that.
23:55
Speaker 3: I'm not criticizing Devon on that young guys usually don't
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Speaker 3: even Josh Allen when he had ten sacks as a rookie,
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Speaker 3: I don't know that he was the one making them better.
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Speaker 3: I think it was Klay's campbell. They don't have that impact.
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Speaker 3: Devin is a guy who's around the ball so much,
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Speaker 3: and when he's around the ball, the ball finds him
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Speaker 3: that he can easily turn into a guy that by
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Speaker 3: week five you're saying, oh, they're pretty good on defense,
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Speaker 3: and he's a reason why. And that would be what
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Speaker 3: a gift for this team that would be if that happens.
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Speaker 2: And I think it bears telling him again. Kyle Whittingham,
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Speaker 2: his coach at Utah, told me at the draft that
24:33
Speaker 2: they took him. But this was the guy who was
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Speaker 2: in the film room on Tuesday night and Wednesday night
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Speaker 2: and on Thursday. He was able to explain every nuance
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Speaker 2: of the defense, not to the coaches, but to his teammates.
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Speaker 2: Their job, his job. So last year when everybody was saying,
24:48
Speaker 2: you know, it's too fast for him, he doesn't get it.
24:51
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was fair because they didn't understand
24:54
Speaker 2: how much work this kid puts in. Now you take
24:57
Speaker 2: all the physical attributes and the mental attributes and his
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Speaker 2: work ethic, and you put it together. John, I think
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Speaker 2: the guy is gonna have a massive year.
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Speaker 1: Here's hoping. I like to be right with my guests,
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Speaker 1: so let's let's hope for that. All right, coming up,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna go around the locker room real quickly and
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Speaker 1: go around the locker room. I got a chance to
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Speaker 1: catch up with Evan Ingram. We've been talking how excited
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Speaker 1: we are. He told us a little bit about how
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Speaker 1: excited he is to finally get out on the field
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Speaker 1: and see what this offense can do.
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Speaker 6: It's all excitement. You know, nobody here is comfortable, you know, not,
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Speaker 6: nobody's complacent, and uh, I feel like everybody's had their
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Speaker 6: share fair share of adversity. This camp and their career,
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Speaker 6: and you know, if we all understand the opportunity that
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Speaker 6: we have. So I think we're all really excited. We're
25:53
Speaker 6: all locked in or ready to go, and you know,
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Speaker 6: it's real. This this, this, these ones count, these plays count,
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Speaker 6: So we're really excited to go make some place.
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Speaker 1: Things will be real on Sunday. They're excited as we are.
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Speaker 1: You guys want to pick them? Who you got?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think the Jags win something on the lines
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Speaker 3: of thirty one, twenty two, thirty one, twenty something in there.
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Speaker 3: I said, oh, I think they grind out a lead
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Speaker 3: seven minutes in the fourth quarter. It's still a game.
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Speaker 3: People holding their breath, and then they force Richardson into
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Speaker 3: a mistake that allows them to get you know, double
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Speaker 3: digit eight points somewhere in there. That's how I see it.
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Speaker 2: The average game in the NFL is decided by eight points.
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Speaker 2: I mean, rare are the opportunities where you say, oh,
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Speaker 2: Jaguars again will win by ten, twelve, fourteen, something like that.
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Speaker 2: The Colts this year because of their quarterback. Maybe the Texans,
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Speaker 2: but not often. I think it's gonna be a thirty
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Speaker 2: one to fourteen game. I mean, I just I'm watching
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Speaker 2: Evvin Ingram on the screen, and I'm thinking, how you
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Speaker 2: can take him? Kirk, we talked about ETN. I mean,
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Speaker 2: there's just so many mismatches This Colts team is. They've
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Speaker 2: got some veteran players, but they are in a stark rebuild.
26:57
Speaker 2: The back end of their defense does not match up
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Speaker 2: with this offense. I just don't know how they're gonna
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Speaker 2: stop them. So I'll say it's a pretty big win
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Speaker 2: for the Jaguars and opening day. I don't know whether
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Speaker 2: it takes them to the fourth quarter to get there,
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Speaker 2: they get off to that fast start that both Doug
27:10
Speaker 2: and Trevor talked about wanting. But I think it's a
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Speaker 2: big win and gets this team really wound up and
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Speaker 2: everyone wound up for Week two.
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Speaker 3: If it was week two here, I pick huge win.
27:24
Speaker 3: Those little factors of road in week one. Just maybe
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Speaker 3: think it'll be scoring. You're right, totally understand that. I
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Speaker 3: just this Colts team just doesn't match up well with
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Speaker 3: this It's rare that you get that where you say
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Speaker 3: they can't do this, this or this, and on their.
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Speaker 2: Defense against this offense, I just can't see it. But
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Speaker 2: if it was closer, I totally understand opening day.
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Speaker 1: And on the road, I think we're can all agree
27:44
Speaker 1: that the Jags are gonna win, and I think four
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Speaker 1: touchdowns plus is reasonable to expect against this Colts defense.
27:51
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go similar score with John maybe
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Speaker 1: thirty one twenty one ish, but I think it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be the opposite. I think they get ahead early and
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Speaker 1: Colts kind of sneak back into it a little bit.
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Speaker 1: But now for a true, true threat.
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Speaker 2: I just want to give one other, you know, around
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Speaker 2: the locker room kind of feel. I had a conversation
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Speaker 2: with Roy robertson Harris yesterday, really good conversation, and he
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Speaker 2: told me that he before last year he had never
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Speaker 2: won anything. He didn't win in college. He didn't win
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Speaker 2: a bowl game, right, He had never been a part
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Speaker 2: of something that won. And you could just see the
28:17
Speaker 2: look in his eye was this fire. And I said, so,
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Speaker 2: how does that set you.
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Speaker 1: Up for this season?
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Speaker 2: He goes, I want to do it again? Right? The
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Speaker 2: Big Roy has been doing it, you know around here
28:27
Speaker 2: since late last Season's been making these plays. When you
28:30
Speaker 2: get a guy like that who's a veteran player who
28:32
Speaker 2: says that what last season did for him sets up
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Speaker 2: this season to want to do it, get him excited
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Speaker 2: about it. That's kind of the vibe on the defensive
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Speaker 2: side of the ball.
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Speaker 1: All right, that's all we got before the game starts.
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Speaker 1: Things get real on Sunday. We'll have your full recap
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Speaker 1: for you on Jags Am on Monday morning at ten am.
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Speaker 1: We'll see you then enjoy Game one in Week one,