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338: Welcome to Plathville Recap - It's All Cattywampus (S8 E8-9) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality te the God.
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  Speaker 2: The world famous, universally famous podcast.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Deelia. I'm one of your co hosts,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm here with my real tight homegirl and my
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  Speaker 2: It's we.
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  Speaker 1: We are here with a twofer. Yeah for Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: plaithfill honey. Now you may know that we missed it
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  Speaker 1: last week, so that we were under the weather, both
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  Speaker 1: of us. Yeah, not just no, it was both of us,
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  Speaker 1: and so we did watch it. We took notes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but we are going to cover it tonight and also
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  Speaker 1: the most recent episode, so we got you don't worry
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  Speaker 1: We also covered that psychotic nutcracker Veronica Peters allegedly. I
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  Speaker 1: Love some raccoons. Every single thing you do helps us
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  Speaker 1: in the algorithm, allegedly, and so thank you in advance.
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  Speaker 1: And I do have an announcement. Oh yeah, I'm a
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to wear nerve stun noassles causing me
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  Speaker 3: sciatic pain. And I don't know if any of you
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  Speaker 3: pose have ever had siatica. I wouldn't wish it upon.
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  Speaker 3: My worst enemy is terrible. I have been living in
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  Speaker 3: a fresh hell for weeks now, and so if I'm
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  Speaker 3: like changing my position, if I'm looking uncomfortable, that is why.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I take this podcast. There she does, it's
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  Speaker 2: her drop.
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  Speaker 1: This is a professional raccoon that you're looking at here.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put up with the pain, yep, so
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  Speaker 1: we can talk about these fucking plaths.
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  Speaker 2: She literally bought a standing disk, so hopefully we can
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  Speaker 2: do the pod.
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  Speaker 1: And I bought an inversion table. Yeah, we should do
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  Speaker 1: our next podcast, which you sitting here, and I'll just
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  Speaker 1: be inverted on my own lady inversion. It's perfect in
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  Speaker 1: the microphone. I love that idea.
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  Speaker 2: I would love that with the blood rush in your head.
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  Speaker 1: That would make it better.
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  Speaker 2: That would be so great.
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  Speaker 1: So we have to make some accommodations for the older
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  Speaker 1: ladies in the room, but I'm excited to get into it.
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  Speaker 1: And so before we get into the recap, I do
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  Speaker 1: have to ask you, Beatrice. We've watched two episodes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this shit show. What is your global takeaway?
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  Speaker 2: I guess my takeaway it's gonna be a little bit serious,
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  Speaker 2: sorry about it.
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  Speaker 4: It's not gonna be funny.
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  Speaker 2: But like with Teagan and Ethan, you know, one thing
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  Speaker 2: my mom always told me is that everybody is put
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  Speaker 2: in your life for a reason to like teach you something,
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  Speaker 2: to either teach you something about yourself, teach you something
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  Speaker 2: about relationships, or just to teach you something in life.
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  Speaker 2: Like sometimes you know, you gotta be taught a lesson.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like Teagan is Ethan's lesson of like
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  Speaker 2: you know, you can't just keep being a shitty boyfriend.
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  Speaker 2: You can't just keep avoiding everything and getting all chromagnum,
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  Speaker 2: you know, toddler baby angry and run away and peel
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  Speaker 2: off in your old man car. Like you had this
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  Speaker 2: beautiful woman who loved you, Like, let's not forget that
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  Speaker 2: she was in love with you. She thought she was
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  Speaker 2: gonna marry you, and you still treated her like shit.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's very obvious that she is moving on.
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  Speaker 2: She don't want nothing to do with you. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that that's what Ethan is going through right now,
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  Speaker 2: like he's being taught a lesson. He failed to learn
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  Speaker 2: that lesson with Olivia, he failed to learn that with Tegan.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, dude, the universe is gonna keep
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  Speaker 2: sending you the same thing over and over again, Like
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  Speaker 2: how many more beautiful women are you gonna fuck over,
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  Speaker 2: dude and just lose and squander.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but what people don't realize is that the universe escalates.
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  Speaker 1: And so if you don't, if you don't learn your
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  Speaker 1: lesson from the first encounter, m it's gonna be louder,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be bigger. So like, pay attention to your life. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: pay attention to the common themes in your life. People
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  Speaker 1: are telling you you are a terrible communicator and that
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  Speaker 1: you're generally an asshole and misogynist. Don't get me started
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  Speaker 1: on even flat Well, people are telling you that you
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  Speaker 1: should listen and you should do the work required to
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  Speaker 1: change yourself. Exactly, but like that's what we thinking raccoons
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  Speaker 1: would do. Ethan is not a raccoon. He's a gelatinous,
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  Speaker 1: mashed potato man.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and Tiagan was recently on Instagram posting pictures of
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  Speaker 2: her new mean and I'm just like you, and he's handsome.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see his face, I see his hand behind it.
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  Speaker 1: Really good for her, even though I'm so bored with her.
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  Speaker 1: She has no personality. In Veronica's Live, which we are
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  Speaker 1: covering on Patreon. In fact, I think it drops tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: or tomorrow Frida every day Friday, So like she actually
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  Speaker 1: talks a little bit about Teagan. And while she's been
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  Speaker 1: and vile and venomous, she's not wrong sometimes, Yeah, she's
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily wrong. Taking bores me. So my takeaway is
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  Speaker 1: that I was very offended on Kim's behalf.
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  Speaker 2: Were you I actually was? I'm surprised. I really were
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  Speaker 2: so excited about this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: I was excited about it for all of the wrong reasons.
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  Speaker 1: But when it happened, I was just looking at that
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  Speaker 1: man Ken Palmer, Yeah, sitting across from her with all
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  Speaker 1: the audacity in the world, with this dumb jukebox residing
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  Speaker 1: in her farm house that she owns giving her ultimatums.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I was wild with upset.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was upset about it, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: be talking about it in this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: You can't stop me. I know how you feel. I
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  Speaker 2: won't stop you.
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  Speaker 1: I know how you feel. But like I was very
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  Speaker 1: offended on behalf of Kim and all portly women, me
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  Speaker 1: included what portly Kim says herself. Yeah, Kim says herself.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not fat shaming her. She says herself that she
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  Speaker 1: has to lose weight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And in the most recent episode, we had a flashback
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  Speaker 1: to when she first discussed Joshua, Like, something has changed
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  Speaker 1: in her life. It's very evident, and so this is
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  Speaker 1: something Kim is talking about. Yeah, And so I was
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  Speaker 1: just offended on her behalf because she understands and she's
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  Speaker 1: aware of it. Sure, Okay, zipping my lip without further ado,
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into our recap of Welcome to Platfol season eight,
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  Speaker 1: episodes eight and nine, entitled most Recent.
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  Speaker 2: Well most recent is it's all caddiewampus.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. Okay, but last week's
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  Speaker 2: episode was Upcreek without a paddle and last week's episode
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  Speaker 2: was pretty boring. The only highlight really was Ken confronting
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  Speaker 2: Kim and giving the ultimatum about her weight and her
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  Speaker 2: health or whatever. Last week's episode was very heavy on
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  Speaker 2: Ethan and Teagan as well, because we were finishing up
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  Speaker 2: the montage trip, and honestly, it was awkward af because
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  Speaker 2: Teagan didn't really want to be there and she doesn't
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  Speaker 2: really want to be with Ethan. Ethlyn is hopelessly hope
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  Speaker 2: hoping that he can get back together with Teagan somehow
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  Speaker 2: and like win her good graces back, and I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: it's never going to happen. Even Mariah and Isaac are
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  Speaker 2: like trying to talk to him about it and be like, well,
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  Speaker 2: maybe just meet her where she's at, And everybody's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like tiptoeing around Ethan because they know that he
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  Speaker 2: is depressed.
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  Speaker 1: Well and you can't talk to him no, and he
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  Speaker 1: won't listen to anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Like at all, and he's just gonna do what he
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  Speaker 2: wants to do. And like it goes back to my
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  Speaker 2: takeaway earlier about like Ethan, you need to learn the lesson,
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  Speaker 2: like these grand gestures that you are doing for these women,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's not going to mean anything if your actions
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  Speaker 2: are anytime you're upset or overwhelmed by your emotions, you
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  Speaker 2: fucking peel off and run away and turn off your
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  Speaker 2: phone so you can't be contact.
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  Speaker 1: For hours, for hours while she's in another state with
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  Speaker 1: your grandparents.
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  Speaker 4: That's whack.
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  Speaker 2: That is whack. I don't understand. And so it's like
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  Speaker 2: last week's episode was really hard to watch just because
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  Speaker 2: Ethan is just so pathetic, honestly, and it's sad, Like
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  Speaker 2: it's sad, it's embarrassing. I'm just like, Ethan, what are
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  Speaker 2: you doing? Teagan is just not into him. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why Teagan's even entertaining it. I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: she went to Montana in the first place. We had
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  Speaker 2: a conversation with her mom after they got back from
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  Speaker 2: Montana and it was after Christmas, and this was super produced,
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: but you know, Teagan's mom was giving Ethan more grace
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  Speaker 2: than what we're giving him. She was saying, you know,
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: he's very damaged obviously from his previous relationship, and he's
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: got a lot of healing to do. He's got to
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: do some shadow work. And Teagan's like, yeah, but I
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: don't want no part, no part of it. I guess
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  Speaker 2: Ethan was alone on Christmas Day because you know, he
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  Speaker 2: chose to move up to Wisconsin and be there, away
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  Speaker 2: from his family, away from all of his friends for Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: Teagan didn't want him over for Christmas, but she brought
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  Speaker 2: him leftovers from her Christmas dinner.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds really sad. I feel bad for Ethan because
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  Speaker 1: of course, anybody who's alone at Christmas, especially when we
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: know his heart is to be with the woman that
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  Speaker 1: he loves, like that's probably devastating. But you brought this
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: upon yourself with your bad behavior and then making this
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  Speaker 1: crazy decision to move to eastern Wisconsin and get a house.
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  Speaker 1: And she didn't ask for that, She didn't ask for
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: any of it, and so this is what you get.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: Well, and it's obviously like he did this way too
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: late too, Like it's not like he moved to Wisconsin
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: right after their breakup to try and write her back,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like he waited months, didn't talk to her.
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: Four months they broke up, they were done, no contact.
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  Speaker 2: He goes back to Georgia four months, and then all
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, when he's lonely and his hands and
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: can't cut it out for him anymore, then he's like.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, I'm gonna move to Wisconsin and winter back.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't work like that, It doesn't, It really doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just it's pathetic to watch, honestly, and like
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: I feel bad for him, but at the same time,
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: it's like, dude, it's kind of frustrating me at this
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: point to watch him be so pathetic and try and
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  Speaker 2: win this girl back who very obviously wants nothing to
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: do with him.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and even when we skip ahead to the most
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: recent episode and Kim comes to see Ethan and bring
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: him some stuff, like she's trying to talk to you, Ethan,
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  Speaker 1: She's trying to have a conversation, like she's attempting that
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: connection with you, and you're literally just not even answering her.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if it's because you don't want
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: to talk on camera. I don't know that, Like there's
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: better ways to present yourself, yeah, and communicate something to somebody,
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: like it's just so broken. Yeah, he is so broken.
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  Speaker 2: He needs therapy, dude. It's really bad. And honestly, like
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: I blame Kim and Barry, I really do, because I'm
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: just like, this is the kid that you produced, you
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I think Kim Visa VI her conversation with Lydia
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: in the most recent episode kind of approaches taking accountability
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  Speaker 1: for that little bit. But I think she knows, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't do the best job with these kids. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why my boys have picked weird partners. And
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  Speaker 1: it all goes back to me and Barry, like she
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  Speaker 1: said something like that, right, kinda sort of.
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  Speaker 2: But it was also like in the same breath of
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  Speaker 2: I'm offended that people are talking about that they didn't have,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the tools and resources, Like what about me,
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  Speaker 2: though I didn't have the tools and resources? Well, you're
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  Speaker 2: the parent, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But in last week's episode, again, like I said, the
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  Speaker 2: highlight was Ken confronting Kim about her health and her wellness.
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  Speaker 2: And this was a pretty crazy conversation because he straight
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: up just says, yeah, you're overweight. You're fucking fat.
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  Speaker 1: You're not just chubby, you haven't just gotten a little fluffy.
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  Speaker 1: But like, I think you're going to die.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I honestly I think you're gonna die.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: Like I worry about you dying. Yeah, because you put
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: on so much weight and you live an unhealthy lifestyle,
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  Speaker 1: like you don't exercise. You keep saying that you're going
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: to make these changes, and you're not doing that at all.
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  Speaker 1: And so I want to preface this convo with you
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  Speaker 1: by saying that I think that within the scope of
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: the healthy relationship with someone that you love and who
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: loves you, like, if you're doing something in your life
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: that is detrimental and unhealthy and even toxic, it is
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: perfectly fair. And I would say, like I would hope
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  Speaker 1: that the partner would bring that up with you and say, hey, look,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: I noticed that you've been doing this lately, or that
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: I've seen these changes in you. I'm a bit concerned.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's unhealthy. I think you need to go
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: to a doctor or whatever. Like, within a normal relationship,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: I think people ought to hold their partner accountable. But
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: what happened with Kim and Ken didn't really feel that way.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: It felt very one sign I did. It felt very
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: focused on Kim and what she's not doing. Meanwhile, according
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: to Veronica Peters, like he smokes like a chimney. He's
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: not in the best shape, He's a clear geriatric. Yet
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: what do you do for a job? What about the
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: kids that you're just enfranchised from? Like how healthy are you?
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: Ken?
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  Speaker 1: So it just it rubbed me the wrong way. Beatrice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, see, I don't really feel bad for Kim in
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: this segment because I'm just like, Kim, you kind of suck.
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  Speaker 2: But I felt like this conversation was inappropriate. It was
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: inappropriate to have on camera also because again, if this
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: is like a healthy relationship, this is a private conversation
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: you have with your spouse. Sure of like, hey, I'm
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: noticing that you're engaging in some really unhealthy behavior, and
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: I'm worried about the longevity of you in our relationship
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: because I want to be with you forever. Like that's
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: fine and dandy, but to have it on camera felt
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: very weird to me. I was looking on Reddit to
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: see what other people's thoughts were about this conversation, and
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: some people brought up that it felt very scripted. So
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: maybe Kim was the one that wanted to have this conversation,
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, kind of felt like that to me. Also,
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  Speaker 2: people were bringing up that maybe this conversation was actually
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: about her alcoholism and not her fatness, because at one point,
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  Speaker 2: I think Ken or she brought up going to bed
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: drinking wine every night and how that was unhealthy, and
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: so people were thinking or speculating that maybe this was
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: some weird attempt at like an intervention for her being
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: a drunk, and that a lot of that got edited
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: out or it got scripted into a way where it
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: was about her weight.
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  Speaker 4: Instead of that.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, I could see a conversation where
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: maybe Ken Palmer was like, you're drinking a lot, but.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: He's drinking a lot, dull, he looks like an alcoholic too.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: No, and that's the thing too, And like goes back
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: to your point of like, within the health the scope
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  Speaker 2: of a healthy really relationship, it would be appropriate for
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  Speaker 2: your spouse to like advocate for your health. And if
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Ken was a bastion of health, if he was fit
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: and actually being healthy and like not smoking and like
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: could talk without slurring his words, like maybe it would
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: be more appropriate. But look in the mirror, dude, you
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: can't even like walk, And.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: So there is like a bigger conversation to have around this,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: which is why I think this pissed off so many people.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I imagine, I'm not I wasn't on reddit,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: like looking at all the subreddits about this, but like
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: how women are so harshly judged, especially as they get older, yes,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and how men sort of sit in this superior place
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: where they think they can judge us. Meanwhile, you're aging
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: just as quickly, if not worse. Meanwhile, you're unemployed and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: living in her house, which was given to her apparently
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: from an inheritance, which she owns outright, I think based
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: on what I have read, and she's subsidizing your entire life.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I think maybe you get some sort of a pension.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but like you're living off of her
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: large ass. You're not large ass. I know her large ass,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: like the things, the shit she has, he's living off
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: of that, yep. And so he's going to give her
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: an ultimatum to do even more to prove to him
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: that she's willing to be in this committed relationship. Well,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: she's moved you into her house with her three minor children.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Right, And that's why I felt like this conversation was
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: a bit scripted, and I'm just like wondering why, like
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: why would Kim want to even have this conversation on camera, Like,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: are you really that desperate for content?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: It's because she's about to start a GLP one and
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: in the next season of Welcome to Platvill, she's going
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: to be thinner. And it's because she went on a
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: health and fitness journey because Ken gave her this ultimatum.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: That's why I could see this is all a storyline
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: for the future.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Well, and also she's probably a bit jealous and bitter
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: that Barry has gone down this health and fitness journey
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: and he's straight up jacked and like he's juicing and
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: he's doing CrossFit and stuff, and he's going on dates
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: with skinny women, you know what I mean. So she's
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: probably like a little bit bitter too, and is like
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: self aware enough to be like, oh, this makes me
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: look bad. And you know, it's funny to me that
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: people on Reddit were like so up in arms about
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: this conversation because prior to this episode, everybody was talking
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: about how fucking fat Kim was, So I'm just like, Okay,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: you can't have your cake and eat it too, you
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. But I do agree with you,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: like within the like larger conversation of women are always
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: fat shained, women are always criticized for how they look. Meanwhile,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: men are walking around with beer bellies and small PEPs
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and no teeth, you know what I mean. And like
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: they're walking around like they're hot as shit. And then
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: they want women to be skinny, and they want them
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: to have a thigh gap, and they want them to
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: look a certain way, and they want them to look
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: young and pretty entight. Fuck that for sure. And to
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Kim's credit, like she is somebody who is traumatized, She's
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: gone through a lot in her life. She's probably an
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: alcoholic and that's probably contributing to her.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: They're probably alcoholics.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, And so it's like I can feel for Kim
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: in that way, but Kim just kind of sucks as
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: a person, and so I'm just like, I don't have
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of sympathy for her, especially if she's the
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: one that scripted this whole conversation.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, and if she did script this conversation, this is
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the last thing I'll say before we should probably move
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: on because we could be here forever. But like if
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: she did script this conversation and plan it all out,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: she actually did ken dirty totally to put him in
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: a conversation where he's got to be the one to
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: say this her because he looks like a bad guy
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and everybody now hates him even more than they already
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: hated him because you cheated exactly with Kim while she
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: was married exactly.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: So that was last week's episode. In this week's episode,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: we have Kim arriving in Wisconsin because she drove up
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: there to basically check on e because he moved up
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: there on a whim, and also to bring him his
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: bullshit because I guess he packed up what he could
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: in his old man car and like left everything else
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: at home, and so she's bringing his like TV and
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: some of his clothes and like silverware and stuff that
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: he needs to like live. So when she arrives at
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: his rental house, it is barren, like he literally has nothing.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: He has a shitty little two seater couch, he's got
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: like one chair, he has nothing in the cabinets. He's
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: sleeping on blankets on the floor and Kim arrives and
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: it's weird, like it's just an awkward vibe. Ethan is
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: obviously depressed and he's there to try and win back
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: this girl that wants nothing to do with him, and
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Kim is trying, to her credit, to kind of connect
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: to him and like ask him about his relationship with
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Teagan and like what are you guys right now? Like
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: are you friends? Are you working on things? Like what's
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: going on? And Ethan, of course, is not.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Safe answer her yep, doesn't say words.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: She literally has to be like did you hear me?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: He walks into the bedroom and shuts the door yep,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: while she's standing outside of the bedroom.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: While she's actively trying to talk to him. And Ethan's
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: excuse to the camera is that, you know, he knows
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: his mom is trying to connect with him and ask
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: him questions, but he doesn't want her to take the
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: information that he.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Gets her, right, He did say that.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: He doesn't want her to gossip and spread it around
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: in the family and he wants to be respectful to
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Teagan's feelings.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Which was interesting because of course we have Zach and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: also Lydia saying from the sidelines that they don't necessarily
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: trust him not to tell their business and the business
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: of other people in the family, Like she's the one
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: that's sharing a lot of that sort to hear, Ethan
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: sort of echo that Yep was telling.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Well, and I think he learned from his relationship with
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Olivia that that's kind of what Kim does, and especially
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: on this show, she does spreadshit around a lot. So
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: it's kind of funny that, like, you know, she doesn't
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: want her kids to say certain things publicly or share
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: certain stories, but she has no problem right saying whatever
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: she feels like, especially on camera. And so I do
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: understand that Ethan doesn't really want to get into too
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: many specifics.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Say something, but just say, like, we can talk about
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: this later, Mom, Yeah, you can use your words, right,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: And that does not occur.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: To him, and it's like, you're a whole adult, dude.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I don't understand why you can't just say something like that.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: But no, he's just gonna slam the door in his
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: mom's face, I guess. And then Kim, you know, tries
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: to relate to him by talking about how many times
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: her and Ken have broken up and you know, you know,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the last time we broke up lasted a couple of
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: months and it was pretty hard, but like then we
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: realized that we loved each other and you know, we
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: got back together, so like maybe that that'll happen with
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: you and Taken. I'm like, Kim, let's not. Let's not
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: try to relate to your kid when you're talking about
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: this guy that you cheated on your husband with and
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: your multiple breakups.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Like miss me with that.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: And then we shift gears. We go down to Florida
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: with Isaac and Kaylan. They're heading over to have pizza
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: and games with Zach and Lydia.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Snory dude, and they're so awkward.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Everybody's awkward.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Everyone is awkward. It was a strange encounter.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed, Like they're playing like a couple's game. And
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: there's a question that's like, you know, if I was
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: a cowboy and I was a horse, who would ride who?
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, why why do we got to
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: talk about this? Kaylin is laughing because she knows the implication,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: but like the married virgin couple doesn't know. Isaac and
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Kayleen are giggling and I'm just like stop it stop.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And there really wasn't like much in this segment really
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: other than discussing the Montana trip, and I just don't give.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: A fuck, right, So Zach kind of goes out of
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: his way. He takes pains to let us snow once
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: again that he and Lydia were not invited to Montana
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: like everybody else, which is fine because they're busy and
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: they would not have been able to go. But they're
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: gonna go to Montana soon. But like you can tell
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: that they're actually but hurt about that totally, And I
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: wonder why, though, why weren't they invited? Is it because
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: nobody likes Zach?
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like they were invited last minute and
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: they just couldn't get the time off work or something.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: But they're bitter about that because they're like, why didn't
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: you invite us sooner?
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: But I don't know.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't have wanted to infind that.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Well, based on the preview, there's good reason not to
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: have them there.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: They seem like annoying to be around, and they seem
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: weird to be around, like I don't I don't know.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: They seem very judgmental and superior.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Super that and Isaac even makes a comment in this
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: episode about how like, you know, they've done really well
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: to try and reconcile after the marriage or after the
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: wedding where Isaac and Ethan acted very inappropriately and Isaac's like,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: you know, I apologize for everything that I did wrong,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Like I own up to all of that. He makes
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: a weird statement where he says, you know, they've got
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: to work on some things themselves because they're very high
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: up on their stool. Yeah, so he's already like planting that,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: like they're very high and mighty.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: They're judging everybody.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: And I'm not into that. Man, not into that at all.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: And I can see it totally, especially in the car
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: ride which we're gonna get to girl totally.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: And so then we go back to Wisconsin where we
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: have Ethan inviting Teagan over to see his rental house
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: and I'm just like.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Oh god, this whole scene.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: This was so awkward. Yes, it was so painfully awkward,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Like I literally texted you today like I'm cringing so hard.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: This is embarrassing. And Teagan shows up. She bangs on
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the door multiple times because I guess Ethan didn't hear
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: her he was in the bathroom, and then she like
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: makes a snide comment about like I was waiting out
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: there forever. He's like, well, I was in the bathroom,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: like chill out. And it's just weird because Ethan has
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: nothing in his house. There's literally there's not even a TV.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: There's a little couch yeah, and what else?
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah? A box of brownie mix.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Oh my god.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: And they try to make brownies because you know, Ethan
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: knows Teagan loves brownies, so he bought all the ingredients
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: for the brownies, but was too stupid to get to
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: get measuring cups. So they can't even really make them
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: or I think they tried to.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Whatever. It's just awkward. Well, and Teagan doesn't want to help. No,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: she's not being very engaging. She seems very stiff. She
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: also seems pretty judgmental. Yeah, as she's walking around his place,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: you can see that in his own lame way, he's
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: trying to connect and to reach out to her and
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: engage her in conversation. But she's just like, so walls up,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Mary Brown. She's just like not having any of it.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, why are you there?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Then?
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Why are why give him false hope? That's the thing
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that's not nice to do. Just tell him straight up.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not interested. I don't know why you moved here.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: You shouldn't have done it.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: That was stupid.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: But you're a stupid and I don't want to have
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: anything to do with you. Just be honest.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: That's what I don't understand. It's like, I wonder how
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: their conversation went when he announced to her a couple
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: episodes ago that he was planning to move back, because like,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: why didn't you say then, Ethan, I don't want you back,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Like you can move here if you want, but I'm
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: never going to take you back. Like why didn't you
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: have that conversation? Why did you go to Montana? Why
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: are you going to.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Visit his house?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Well, but she didn't learn about him moving there till
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: he was there, right.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: No, he like, drove up.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I need to tell he drove up. But then he
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: also leased the place and told her I'm living here now.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: So that was her first time hearing it, Like she
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: didn't know that he was going to do that. He moved,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: he got a house, and then he told her.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I thought it was he was going to look at places,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: because didn't he drive up At one point He's like,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna look at places.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was the same time that he got
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the flowers and then at the park.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like she was blindsided. She had no sure
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: idea what he was doing. He made the decision to
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: do that. It's been three weeks since they got back
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: from Montana. Yeah, she hasn't seen him. He hasn't called her.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: She does the thing too.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he hasn't called her. He hasn't like asked her
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: out on a day out or anything. This is the
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: first time he's reached out and she's been over So like,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: what are you doing, Ethan?
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: And like Ethan in his like weird, stupid brain, He's like,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: you know, she's probably thinking that I'm only going to
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: be here temporarily and so it doesn't mean much to
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: her right now. But you know, if she can see
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: that I'm here long term, maybe it'll change her mind
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: or something. And I'm like, dude, it's not gonna happen
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: because she's obviously going to get another boyfriend and not
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: be into you anymore.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I really wonder how long he makes it in Wisconsin.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Does anybody know?
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Does he stay like an entire year he's still there?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Is he in Wisconsin right now? Or did he go
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: back to Georgia, because he talked about going back to Georgia.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: He did, he did mention it, so I don't know.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Like she's sitting on his weird, stupid couch, he's sitting
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: on a chair. They're not saying anything to each other.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: And then Kim comes in to kind of be the
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: buffer here because it's fucking awkward, and she's mainly there
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: to like talk to Teagan on camera, of course, but
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: she arrives and she's like, this is weird. Vibes are off,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: it's awkward as hell. I think Ethan leaves to like
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: go to the store or something, or go to work
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: or whatever, and so then this is Kim's chance to
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: talk to Teagan. And I was actually glad that Kim
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: wasn't judgmental of Teagan in this moment, because I was
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: worried that she was going to be like a total
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: boy mom and be like, well, you broke his heart
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: or whatever. But she actually hears her out, and she
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: hears about what ultimately led to the demise of their
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: relationship and how Ethan just straight up fucking peeled off
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and left, didn't turn his phone on, didn't contact her,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: and Kim says, you know, I totally understand. I can't
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: blame Tegan for breaking.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Up with her.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I get it. And she kind of talks to her
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: about like the state of where they're at right now.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Teagan says that they're not even really friends. They're like
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: a step below that they're working towards friendship, and you know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Kim says something like, you know, I'm a boy mom,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: and sometimes my boys can pick bad women or whatever,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: but like Isaac picked a good one and Ethan picked
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: a good one with you, like, you're a good girl,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: and I just don't want you to think I think
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: anything bad of you. And Teagan was glad to hear that,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: and it was just kind of like a whatever. Well.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I thought that Kim handled that well. I think that
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: it was great that she was able to see Teagan's position,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that she was able to agree with Tegan's position. She said,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Ethan has a lot of baggage. Yeah, and it comes
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: from his relationship and his marriage with a live He's
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: been through a lot and he really needs to get
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: his shit together and paraphrasing, obviously if he wants to
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: be in a relationship with anybody, not just tigging, but
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: like you gotta gear shit together. Yeah, gotta do something
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: about this, Ethan. You can't just go throughout the rest
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: of your life damaged by this one relationship and be broken.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: That's not how it should work.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And Kim also acknowledges with Teagan that Ethan is
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: a horrible, horrible communicator and doesn't say anything and he
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: needs to learn to be better about that. And then
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I think Kim to the camera says that she thinks
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Teagan needs to see more from Ethan than him just
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: moving here, like she needs to see growth and change
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: and an effort to communicate, of course, like a big
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: adult man. And obviously that this move is just Ethan
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: acting on emotion an impulse rather than logic, and sometimes
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: that can be a good thing, but sometimes it can
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: just bite you, an mass.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I keep going back to what Cayln said a few
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: episodes ago about Teagan, about how Ethan had done a
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: lot for Teagan, and that Teagan had done a couple
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: of things that Kaylin didn't necessarily agree with, and of
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: course she did not elaborate, but I really want to
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: know what those things are now. It might be absolutely nothing.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: It could just be that Ethan after they broke up,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: went back to his family and talked shit about her
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: and all the things that she supposedly did wrong when
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: she really did nothing wrong. Because the way Teagan explains
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: it is that she prioritized Ethan like he was important
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: to her, and she did whatever she could to be
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: in this relationship, and Ethan also prioritized Ethan, and so
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: after a period of time, it's just she's got to
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: choose herself. Yeah, So I just really want to know
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: if there's something else there that Teagan did or that
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: contributed to this. I wish they would tell the viewers
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: because we're just left here wondering. Obviously, Ethan is weird. Yeah,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: he's not an ideal partner, but like, what's the whole story?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I feel like we're missing something, do you?
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I agree, yes, And I'm really curious what Caylen even
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: meant by that, because as it is right now, I
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: am siding with Teagan, of course, and it's like I
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: think Ethan was a piece of shit, you know what
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I mean. And Teagan is also being pretty careful with
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: the way that she is talking about like their breakup,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Like she's not talking shit about Ethan, She's not even
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: really being mean to him when she very well could
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: be and has a right to be mean to him
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: with how he treated her, But she's being very respectful
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: and very like, you know, I have love for him,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not in love with him right now, and like
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I can see that he's hurting, but I'm just doing
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: me and I'm living my life like she is being
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: very kind about it, whereas other people on the show,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: right were always the kindest after the breakups and stuff,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: and so I don't know, I'm at this point. I'm
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: kind of like, Ethan, you squandered this, absolutely fucked this up,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: and we know that she's moved on.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing. If he's dating. I mean,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: wouldn't it be a wonderful world if he actually got
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: some therapy and tried to work on himself before he
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: entered into another relationship. But he's not going to mm mmm.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: And I saw some things on Facebook that I can't
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: tell if they're true or not, because Facebook is just
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: a bunch of AI slopped most of the time. But
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: there were some photos going around of Ethan seen in
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: public with another blonde haired girl, and some people were
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: thinking that it was probably Mariah or something. But I'm like,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: is Ethan already dating? Because if he be surprised, I'm
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: just like, dude, you need therapy and you need to
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: like be single for a while before you jump into
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: another relationship.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: There are so many unhealed people out there just jumping
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: from relationship to relationship and yep, not understanding that they
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: are the whole and.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Entire problem exactly.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, t get over here going to New York with
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: her new boyfriend.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: It's life, Go get a girl.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: And I'm just wondering if Ethan is just but hurt
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: by it. He probably is, I hope, so you know whatever,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Then we go, must we to a wellness center? Oh lord,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: sauna Zach and Plath, Daddy, Barry Plath. And I'm just like, why,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I don't care about the compression socks. I don't care
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: about the jiggling. I don't care about the sauna. I
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: don't care at all.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about how he's gonna date
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: the matchmaker. We've been over this, Barry, We've talked about it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: It's a nothing burger. I did have a vibration of
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: It's kind of nice seeing the camaraderie between Barry and Zach.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: They had sort of a funny relationship and I thought
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I got it both awkward. Yeah, I thought it was sweet.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: And that's as far as I'm gonna go because I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: was so bored.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't care about this segment at all.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: The only thing that was funny to me was when
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Barry was joking with Zach about being called the plath Daddy,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: and Zach's like, I am never calling you. And I
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: like seeing Barry giggle because he has kind.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Of like a sweet robotic and they both do together.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: They totally have a neat little friendship that I liked.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was fine, And it's because they're both
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: too awkward, weird, they're very similar.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, Yes.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: The only thing about this segment is that it kind
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: of segues into talking about Lydia and Kim's relationship. Barry
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: and Zach talk about it because Zach says Lydia's still
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: having some issues with Kim because she's not as emotionally
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: involved as she would want her to be. Apparently, according
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: to Zach, Kim only calls Lydia when she needs something.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: She doesn't ever really call her just to call her
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: or ask about her day or ask about Lydia's world
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: and that is hurting Lydia's feelings. Barry acknowledges that Kim
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: is no emotionally involved whatsoever, but he hopes that they
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: can work on it. And while they're at the wellness center,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Zach and Lydia actually got to go to Montana. They
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: visited Mariah, and then Zach flew back home to go
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: to the Sawna with Barry, and Lydia flew back to
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin to visit with Ethan and then ultimately drive back
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: home with Kim.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: While they're at the wellness center and having the conversation
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: about Kim and Lydia, Zach does allude to the accident
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: with Joshua. Yes, he doesn't come right out and say it,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: but Barry says, oh, you're talking about Joshua, and he
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: makes the connection that Kim's emotional unavailability may be connected
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: to that, and he says not in the present day,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: it's not like Kim is walking around wounded about it.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: But maybe underneath it all, underneath the layers, there's like
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: something in there where she hasn't healed, it's unresolved, and
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: that could be causing the disconnect. Between certainly her and
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Lydia and maybe other members of the family, which is astute, yeah,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: and which I think could be true.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Sure it felt scripted to me though, I'm like, why
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: are we bringing up Joshua as like a way to
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: kind of excuse Kim's emotional bad mothering and bad mothering, right, Like,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: we don't need to do that. And so then we
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: shift back to Kim and Lydia who are driving back
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: home from Wisconsin, and this is kind of where we
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: end the episode, but we start off with this like
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: weird interaction with them in the car. At one point,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Kim brings up or shows a photo of a bong
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: that they found in the barn on their property or whatever,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: and Kim explains what it is to Lydia, because you know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: she's so innocent and godly and she would never be
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: dared to even witness or acknowledge the presence.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Of a bong.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: So she's looking at the image, she doesn't know what
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: it is. Kim tells her, Oh, it's a bong. Yeah,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: you use a bong in order to smoke weed. There's
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: another way you can smoke weed, which is like with
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: something called a doobie. It's so stupid. But you can
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: see Lydia's face in the moment transform from sort of
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: her normal soft kind of expression to an absolutely judgmental expression.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: She's like, and why are we talking about this right now?
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: How did we even get on this subject?
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: How did we get on this subject? I was like,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: whoa rude? So next week when we've got family members
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: talking about how judgmental they are, Like, I can see
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: it right in this moment that Lydia does have that
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: superior Christian attitude totally.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: And it was when Kim was explaining what it was about, like,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: this is a bong. People use it to smoke pot. Oh.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I smoked pot a couple times in college, but it's
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: nothing to brag home about, Like I've never done it since.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: And this bong that I'm showing you and this picture
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: is not mine, just so you know. But like, Lydia
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: is already sticking her nose in the air, judging the
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: fuck out of Kim, and I think she's kind of
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: assuming that it probably was Kim's bong or something, because
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Kim is acting like this was found on the property,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: like so somebody who had lived your prime previous.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: It was found in the barn.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I have been telling you season after season after season,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: where does Kim go to drink her vodka? Where does
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Kim go to eat her m and ms while she's
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: starving her kids of sugar? And where does Kim go
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: apparently to take a hit off that bong? It's the barn?
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Do we think that it's Kim's bong?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of I kind of do. I'm kind of
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: thinking it is. And Kim is just pretending like it's
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: not because she's feeling judged so harshly by Lydia in
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: this moment, but it was just awkward. And then at
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: some point we get on the subject about Joshua and
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Kim tells us that I guess Lydia went online and
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I was trying to find this video. I was trying
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: to find where Lydia talked about this, but apparently Lydia
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: went online. She did some kind of live or whatever
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: where she talked about Joshua's death, and in Kim's words,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Lydia went online to cry about Joshua, which I felt
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: was kind of dismissive, dismissive and rude. But Lydia went
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: online said some things about Joshua and his death and
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: then made some inappropriate speculations about how Joshua's death affected
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: not only Kim, but Kim and Barry's marriage and the
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: rest of the family. And in Kim's opinion, she didn't
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: feel like Lydia had a right to do that or
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: should have said any of those things publicly. And so
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Kim is telling us as the viewers, that she's not
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: really happy with the fact that Lydia brought all this up.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: But in the car when they're talking about it, you know,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Lydia says something like, I feel like we didn't have
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: the right tools, were equipped to deal with Joshua's death,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Like I didn't know how to really talk about it.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: I felt like we couldn't really talk about it in
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: the family, And Kim says something like.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't have the tools. I didn't have, I wasn't equipped,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: And she said it took her a year to be
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: able to even talk about it at all after the death,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: so she was unable to help her children with that,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: which she acknowledges. And I don't remember when it was
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: in this most recent episode, but she is trying to
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: make the connection between what happened how she shut down
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: and how that impacted her children. And she even says,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: as she's talking to the camera, I realize I hurt
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: my kids. Yeah, and that's the hardest part of all
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: is knowing the impact on my children based on what
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: happened with Joshua. And you know what, I feel that
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: from Kim, and I believe that when she's speaking about it.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I think it makes perfect sense to me that she
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: went through something as traumatic as the death of Joshua,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: which she is responsible for. She didn't mean it, obviously,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: but she was the one driving the car that ran
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: over Joshua. And of course that would change you for
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: the rest of your life. But meanwhile, you have two
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: thousand other children that you have to homeschool and deprive
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: of sugar, and so you have to put on your
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: game face and you've got to tamp it all down
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: and you can't sit in the bottomless pain of that.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine as a mother, Yeah, for sure,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine the bottomless pain of having to
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: sit with what happened because of you. Yeah, and so, yeah,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: she wasn't equipped to take care of herself. She probably
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: never did, and she certainly wasn't equipped to help her children.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: And I just want to comment regarding Lydia getting up
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: on a live and sharing her perspective. She is one
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: hundred percent entitled to do that. That's Lydia's story too. Yes,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: every he was impacted by that. And just because Kim,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: you're still dealing with guilt and shame around that doesn't
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: mean that the other people around you aren't trying to
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: work through this, put some words on it, witness it,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: and process it. It's a good thing Lydia did that.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: She I don't think she did that for clout.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: No, I'm sure she.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Didn't do that like for fame. I think she's talking
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: about a very deep issue for her. Yes, that's wounded
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: her that she's healing from, and that's a good thing.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I agree. And that was like my issue with this
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: is that, you know, Kim is saying all this stuff
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: about how she understands that it was hard on her
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: kids and she understands that she wasn't there for them
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: and didn't give them the tools and stuff to talk
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: about Joshua, but at the same time is upset that
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Lydia even had the goal to talk about it publicly
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: and to make speculations and like, you know, Lydia was
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: a kid when this happened. She was really young, but
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: she could still witness the damage that it caused, not
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: only to her but to her parents, to her mom.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Like she can still witness that and perceive that and
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: still comment about that, Like she as an adult, is
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: allowed to say these things. And that's why I was
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: trying to find where this video was because I wanted.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: To know you probably told her to take it down.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I'm wonder after his conversation, maybe she took it down.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: And I was like looking on Reddit and like nobody
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: was talking about it.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember anybody mentioning this.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. So if anybody has any kind
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: of like physical evidence about this conversation of what Lydia
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: talked about, police, send us a DM or something, because
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I want to know what exactly Lydia said that made.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: Kim so upset.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: But Kim in this episode says Lydia even bringing this
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: up opened up the wound again for her, and I'm like, well, yeah,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: it's a wound for everyone.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Of the situation. Have you ever heard the saying that
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: you're only as sick as your secrets? So there's a
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: part of this that Kim is trying to keep secret
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: and it's making her sick, and it connects back to
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: what Ken is trying to show her in that conversation.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: It connects back to what Kim herself is telling us
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: about herself and how she realizes like she's in a
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: bad spot with her physicality and with all of it.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Like you're only as sick as your secrets. You have
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: a problem when Lydia is speaking out or when Olivia
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: was speaking out about what you did with the money
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: and all of the control issues because you want to
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: hide it. And so more power to Lydia. Honestly, now,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I don't like aspects of what we're seeing with Lydia
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: and Zach. I think that's a Zach influence. But as
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: far as this is concerned, more power to Lydia.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And like you have to be able
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: to talk about these kinds of things, and like I
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: can understand from the parent side, like if Lydia was
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: saying some things that were critical about Kim and about
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Barry and about their parenting and about how they handled this,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: I can understand as a parent being like almost offended
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: or like insecure about that being like oh, well, like
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: I thought, I did the best that I could because
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: it is hurting too.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: But that's her story, that her life, that's her perspective.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: She's entitled to.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: That exactly, And as a parent, you have to be
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: able to sit in the way of all of that
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: because it's not easy, and every parent makes mistakes, every
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: parent fugs up. It's just the nature of life. And
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: you know, to Kim's credit, at the end of this episode,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: she does say she feels bad that Lydia feels more
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: comfortable to open up to the Internet than to her.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: But it's like, well, Kim, this is the bed that
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: you made, Like this is how you parented your kids.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: You didn't cultivate an environment where they could talk to
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: you about anything. And I don't even know if it
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: was all like in a malicious way, like in a
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: sense of like Kim got mad at her kids for
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: talking about it. I just think that this is how
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: their family was. They just never talked about shit, They
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: never talked about anything hard. They just swept everything under
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: the rugs and acted like everything was okay.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: And now you have an Ethan and now you have
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: a Lydia. Even in this moment in the car. When
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: she's answering Kim, she's stamm she's flubbing up her words.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you saying? Like you're not making
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: any sense. I think I know what you're trying to say,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: but like you can't communicate either.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: No nobody can. And like you have Mariah running off
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: to Montana, you have Micah being no contact basically and
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: not wanting to be a part of the show and
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: just living his own life. And even Hosannah, like where's Hosannah?
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Who's Hosannah?
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Like there's still this eldest child that wants nothing to
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: do with the show and probably the family, and so
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: like this is what you created is so now you're
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: gonna have to.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Deal with it.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Yep. But I don't think Kim's dealing with it. I
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: think she's drinking her problems away. That's just my opinion.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: And so in the preview for next week, we're going
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: to continue this conversation between Kim and Lydia in the car,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: which I do look forward to hearing more about. Kim
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: also says in the preview that Zach and Lydia don't
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: seem to see a problem with them going to other
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: people and telling them how they should live their life
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: and trying to correct their behavior.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: And I'm just like, oh my god.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Can you believe it?
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, I can't believe these little towrps have not even
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: been married a year and they're already lecturing people there
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: and that's early. Yep, this is wild. We have Barry
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: going on a blind date with some skinny blonde chick
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: nobody cares. And then we have this conversation between Isaac,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Ethan and Kim where Isaac actually says when Zach was
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: in Montana, he would only talk with the girls. He
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: didn't want to talk with anybody else, and he was
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: telling Mariah.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: He would only talk to the girls when Isaac wasn't there.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, was that what it was?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: That's what it was. Isaac would go somewhere and then
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: he would talk to the girls, which is interesting because
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Isaac would stick up for his sisters and his girlfriend
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: for sure, and is very protective of his family. So
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Zach waits for Isaac to leave and then starts lecturing
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Mariah uh huh on what she plays in terms of music,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the things that she has in her house and how
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: it's inappropriate, et cetera.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Yikes, And when Isaac is telling this to Ethan and Kim.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Ethan is getting mad just listening to that, and Kim
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: is like, well, then let's fucking talk to them. So
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have a family intervention.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: I love that good. I just for me. It's a
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: personal issue, like the hypocrisy of some Christians, and it's
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: not just Christians. It's like a lot of religions, but
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: like it's my paradigm, so like I can.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Speak to it.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: But Jesus said, do not judge. Jesus said, don't worry
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: about the speck in your brother's eye when you got
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: a big old redwood up in your eye. And then
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: you say that to a Christian and they're like, yes,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: but Paul says you have to righteously judge. I'm don't judge.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Paul's not Jesus. Paul claims to have met Jesus on
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: the road to Damascus. I mean, and you can believe
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: that or not or whatever, but like, what did Jesus
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: say about that? He said, don't judge, period. Yeah, there
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: wasn't anything else about that. Christians can't seem to get
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: that through their head that they're not supposed to sit
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: in judgment of other people like that's a that's an
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: actual antichrist sin. But you've got Christians like Zach and
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Lydia who are like zeygots, no worldly experience, purporting to
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: try and tell other people how to live their life. Obviously,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: I'm triggered. I just hate that so much.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: I hate it too because I've always made that argument
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: too to other Christians, because you know, I'm a resident gay, right,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: so I'm always getting judged from Christian people, you know,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: like you're living in sin and you're blah, and I'm like, okay, but.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Jesus never spoke about homosexuality.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: No, he did not. And also, why are you judging
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: other people? Why do you sit on this high horse
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: and look down on people and be like I live
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: the right way, I live the godly way, and like
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to be inappropriate because this is the
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: end of the episode right now. But I texted you today,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Lydia, why are you judging people when you're
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: married to the chase man I've ever seen in my life?
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Why are you judging people when you live with this
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: marriage with this guy who's like telling you what to do?
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: And I don't know the fact that he was like
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: only to talking to girls when Isaac was not around.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, why because they're as.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Because Isaac will get triggered because Isaac got into a
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: fight with Micah because Micah didn't check his girl. And
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: so if Isaac is there and Lydia is not checking
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: her man, he's going to do something about it. And
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: guess what. Zach is not going to come out the
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: victor in that particular fight. It's going to be Isaac.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: He knows that typical Christian misogyny, and so he's waiting
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: for Isaac to leave and then he's going to start
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: lecturing the girls. Just give me five minutes with that boy, Dude,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: give five minutes. It's not even that I know more
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: scripture than all of these people put together. It's just
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: like so hip a critical really is.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: And now Lydia and Zach are moving to Colorado. They've
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: left Caro, and people on Reddit are like, oh my god, yay,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Lydia is away from her toxic family. But I'm just like, okay, great,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: now she's gonna be with Zach's judge Christian lady's family.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: She's going to be isolated. Okay, great, Yeah, see what
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: happens in ten years, Lydia like where you're going to.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Be, Yeah, hopefully not married.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: It's hopefully not married, hopefully like living your best sexual life.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: You seem to like sex a lot, and every time
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: you mention it, like, Zach seems disgusted. In fact, and
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: we didn't even talk about it because when they had
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: the little social event with Zach and Lydia and Isaac
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: and Kaylin and they're playing their game, Isaac tells us
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: that in the first week of Lydia and Zach's marriage,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: they broke the bed, so they must have been fucking
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: a lot. But then we get the to the camera
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: interview with Zach and Lydia, and Lydia's like, yeah, I
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: was going in for a kiss. I was leaning into
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: him and he fell and we fell onto the bed
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: and it broke. And I'm just imagining that, like she
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: leans in because she wants to kiss him or do
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: whatever sexually with him, and he literally jumps away, I know,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: so hard that he breaks the bed. That's all I
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: got from that.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: That's what I got too. But of course Isaac and
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Kaylin just think they were fucked or whatever, and they're
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: giggling about it. And Isaac's like, you know, being a brother,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: and He's like, I don't want to know how they
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: broke the bed. I'm just gonna fix it for him
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: because I'm a good brother and.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: He broke it pulling away from his wife. Yeah, like
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: just think about that.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Well, and in that couple's game, I forgot to mention too.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: One of the biggest things that they argue about is
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: when to have babies. And it's because Zach doesn't want
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: to have babies right now, but Lydia does.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Because it requires penis and vagina sex.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: It requires him coming in vagina.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Sorry, we gotta go. My sciatica is singing. I'm getting inappropriate. Like,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: it's just so many red flags yet flag in for totally. Well, Beatrice,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: this was fun. Is there anything else that we should
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: say to these beautiful raccoons before we get up on
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 55:42
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• 55:46
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• 55:50
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• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Just a disclaimer, I'm a Christian and if I offended anybody,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm just talking about the things that Jesus
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: himself railed against when he talked about organized religion.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: That's all.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it just get upset, Sorry if I triggered. Anybody
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: is nothing but love over here. We're gonna be back
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: next week to talk sister wives and other things. Until then,
• 56:11
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• 56:13
  Speaker 1: for you, and please a mighty