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Manosphere lied about, Feminists most affected · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Okay, hello, oh wait am I muted? Uh oh, hello everybody,
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  Speaker 1: and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian
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  Speaker 1: here Allison, and this is maintaining frame Manisphere lied about
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  Speaker 1: feminist most affected, where we're going to be looking at
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  Speaker 1: the next best thing. Well, I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 1: the next best thing or the real thing that sort
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  Speaker 1: of comes out of Louis Theroux's Inside the Manisphere documentary
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  Speaker 1: Louis Theroux Threau. It could be Threau, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I through or Thorau. Somebody DMed me and was like,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's pronounced this way, and it's like I
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  Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care, Like I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 1: like the last thing that's on my mind is getting
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  Speaker 1: this the name of this muck rakers pronounced correctly. It
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  Speaker 1: just just don't. I mean, look, I I want to
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  Speaker 1: try to be like I don't know, through or through
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  Speaker 1: with people through and getting their names right. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like not enough to like lose over it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's face it, he's part. He's obviously part of
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  Speaker 2: the Norman Norman invasion of the UK, So yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: really owes, he really owes the Anglo Saxons reparations. Let's
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  Speaker 2: come on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, so after that documentary was released, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people had takes on them, and of course takes
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  Speaker 1: it's been huh take Yeah, they yes, they have takes,
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  Speaker 1: they have opinions, and of course those are I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like it's this is kind of the way it goes, right.
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  Speaker 1: So Louis Throux or whoever it is makes a documentary
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  Speaker 1: about the Manisphere, men's rights activists, the red pill people
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  Speaker 1: pushing back on feminism or whatever, the sort of establishment
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  Speaker 1: status quo ideology of you know, that is approved by
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  Speaker 1: the powers that be, and they what they do is
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  Speaker 1: they have someone do a documentary on it, and that
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  Speaker 1: person usually you know edits and lies and takes them
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  Speaker 1: out of context and is about as disc let's say,
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  Speaker 1: uncharitable as possible. And then that gets out into the
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  Speaker 1: mainstream and everyone else uses it as truth and then
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  Speaker 1: they just react to it. And so now we're at
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  Speaker 1: stage two of the Inside the Manisphere documentary being released,
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  Speaker 1: which is all of the people on law online, the influencers,
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  Speaker 1: the TikTokers, the YouTubers, the bloggers, the journalists, the activists,
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  Speaker 1: the psychologists, the professors, the politicians, and they all have
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  Speaker 1: a take, and of course, like almost all of it,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't side with the subjects of the documentary. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that that's I mean, you know, heart ignorance on
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  Speaker 1: the part of the people that do it, but mostly
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  Speaker 1: it's malice because they were looking for a way to
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  Speaker 1: discredit not just like the Manisphere in terms of like
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  Speaker 1: who is actually featured in the film, but more importantly
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  Speaker 1: the Manisphere as a whole, which is essentially the dissident
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  Speaker 1: part of the Internet that has takes issue with things
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  Speaker 1: as they are, you know, zoom.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, anyway, all right, yeah, so I have a
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  Speaker 2: few things to tell you guys. First of all, unfortunately
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  Speaker 2: voidcat Mia has had a relapse of her anemia. She
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  Speaker 2: was severely anemic last year. She seemed to be doing
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  Speaker 2: very well for the past year, and then in the
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  Speaker 2: last month she's apparently gotten a lot worse. And it's
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  Speaker 2: worse this time around than it was last time. I
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  Speaker 2: am put she's on steroids because apparently what we think
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  Speaker 2: blood cells and and all of the cells basically the
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  Speaker 2: the constituents of the bloodstream. So she's quite weak right now,
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  Speaker 2: we have her own steroids and the hopes that that
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  Speaker 2: will control her immune system and help her rebound her
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  Speaker 2: red blood cell count rebound, and I'm trying to do
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  Speaker 2: what I can to keep her fed, including like hand
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  Speaker 2: feeding her. And it's sort of touch and go at
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  Speaker 2: this point. So hopefully I don't have worse news to
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  Speaker 2: so let's let's perfect day to watch. Are we watching
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  Speaker 2: Byrony Clair again? Of course?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So here we have Brianny Claire. She's made a video.
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  Speaker 1: She has a tape and the video is uh called
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  Speaker 1: I Love my Husband who Hates Me and essentially it's
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  Speaker 1: d yes. But the thing, the way that Brianny Clair works,
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  Speaker 1: from what I can tell, is that every topic is
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity for her to go after multiple targets at once.
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  Speaker 1: So she will go after the patriarchy, and she'll go
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  Speaker 1: after like you know what, like what she would describe
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  Speaker 1: as bad men, and then all men, and then heteronormativity
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  Speaker 1: and then capitalism and then Elon Musk and Trump and
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  Speaker 1: Republicans even though she's not American, but for some reason
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  Speaker 1: she goes after Republicans And yeah, basically, like it's it's
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  Speaker 1: all about, like how many different individuals and systems can
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  Speaker 1: I use the topic to essentially attack by throwing them
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  Speaker 1: all under the same umbrella at the same time. And
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  Speaker 1: Threau was doing that in his documentary too, Like I
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  Speaker 1: didn't mention this, but there was b roll of when
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  Speaker 1: he was saying, you know, the spiritual hub of the manisphere,
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  Speaker 1: and that was a show out of a cyber truck,
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  Speaker 1: which you know, not not an accident. These people do
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  Speaker 1: this stuff on purpose, and it's all about, like it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter if there's evidence of any of that. It's
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  Speaker 1: all about creating the correlation so that you are manipulated
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  Speaker 1: by it. And I think that his film was aimed
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  Speaker 1: at women mainly because the way that he was shooting it,
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  Speaker 1: it was like he was sizing he was being a woman,
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  Speaker 1: sizing up the worth of the men he was interviewing,
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  Speaker 1: which is why he would call into question their masculinity.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of like talking about issues and stuff, he was
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  Speaker 1: treating it like how he thought a woman would treat
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  Speaker 1: it if a woman watched it. And that was.
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  Speaker 2: And his masculinity more quote unquote ethics and their alleged
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  Speaker 2: service to feminism really not really women, because if he
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  Speaker 2: cared about the women, he wouldn't have hovered around them
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  Speaker 2: and wouldn't have tried to poke holes and whatever that. However,
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  Speaker 2: they'd range their lives up to that point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but feminists do that to women too.
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  Speaker 2: Of course they do. Yeah, yeah, that's their favorite sport.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hm. Oh So anyway, so this is Bribanty Claire's video,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sort of like setting it up. The video
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  Speaker 1: is actually about I guess, like, you know, women who
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  Speaker 1: are who love their husbands despite the fact that their
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  Speaker 1: husbands clearly hate them or don't respect them or some
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  Speaker 1: other such nonsense. And so the manisphere comes into it
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  Speaker 1: as one of the sections. So how does.
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  Speaker 2: She know that their husbands don't love them.
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  Speaker 1: Because she watched Louis Theroux's documentary and now she gets
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  Speaker 1: to reference it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's what she's talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, she watched the documentary. It confirmed all of her biases,
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  Speaker 1: it made her look like a prophet, and now she's
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  Speaker 1: going to share it with the masses. That's that's the point,
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  Speaker 1: of course, that's the point.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like like imagine, so women really like to watch
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  Speaker 1: mysteries like murder mysteries, right, And one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that makes murder mysteries fun is you get to try
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  Speaker 1: to predict who done it, like you get to pretend
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  Speaker 1: to be detective while the story unfolds, or at least
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  Speaker 1: that's what I imagine, and women like to do that.
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  Speaker 1: They also like to like analyze when they watch films
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  Speaker 1: and stories. They like to look at the social dynamics
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  Speaker 1: going on. That's why women love soap operas. They like
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  Speaker 1: to see social dynamics at play. They like to see
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  Speaker 1: drama intensify, even if it is unrealistic, because it's fun
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  Speaker 1: to do that in the same way that men like
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  Speaker 1: to watch action movies, even though sometimes the action is unrealistic.
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  Speaker 1: And part of what I think they get out of
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  Speaker 1: that is they get to feel like they are, like
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, like they have some kind kind of sense,
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  Speaker 1: like a higher like a sixth sense for social dynamics,
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  Speaker 1: for understanding people. And the Man of Spare documentary was
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  Speaker 1: made in that style so that women could watch it
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  Speaker 1: and say, oh, I knew you know, Myron Gains was
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  Speaker 1: a piece of shit, and he was actually really insecure.
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  Speaker 1: I could tell because the film told it paints that picture.
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  Speaker 1: And then the women take that away from him, they're like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is it, this is what I thought. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I mean when I say it's it's like made with
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  Speaker 1: women's in mind, you know, especially women that are on
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  Speaker 1: the lookout for bad men, because I think women are
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  Speaker 1: always scanning, like for the quality of people, and so
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  Speaker 1: if a man has like they get like a gut
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  Speaker 1: feelings about a guy, and then the documentary confirms their bias,
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  Speaker 1: then they're gonna like, you know, double down on that,
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  Speaker 1: on that emotion, and then you're gonna get the people
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  Speaker 1: like Brian Nclair that will make content about it about it,
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  Speaker 1: and then they they they turn it into something academic
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  Speaker 1: and they break it down like here's why these men
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  Speaker 1: are all garbage, and here is why we can extrapolate
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  Speaker 1: from this specimen and we can look at like why
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  Speaker 1: you know, all men are like in some way, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in this same environment, and it's because of patriarchy and
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  Speaker 1: capitalism and white supremacy and blah blah blah blah blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah. So that's what I think. But anyway, So
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  Speaker 1: let's get into Briann Eclair's connecting the idea that there
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  Speaker 1: exists these women who are handmade to the patriarchy, that
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  Speaker 1: unknowingly are slaves to their men who actually don't even
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  Speaker 1: care about them.
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  Speaker 3: Have the ones that are fighting to keep a child
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  Speaker 3: marriage as a thing in the US?
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  Speaker 1: Hold on a second, I think I'm got double sound here.
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 3: Always Republicans and did you know that in Texas say
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  Speaker 3: like she's saying, like this is again, she's just turning
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  Speaker 3: it into a political thing. You cannot still it's yeah,
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  Speaker 3: feel pregnant. I have brought up on my channel for
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  Speaker 3: a very long time at this point, what a very mild.
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  Speaker 2: It's only a very mild echo. Don't worry about it, okay, madam, Right,
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  Speaker 2: leading politics have existed for a very long time. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't require what do you think the manisphere was the
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  Speaker 2: gateway for the Republicans into the into American politics? What
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  Speaker 2: is this nonsense? Okay? Continue?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, five.
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  Speaker 3: Years ago, which would absolutely shocking. They're being said how.
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  Speaker 1: The Manisphere is making misogyny mainstream. I'm just pointing out,
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  Speaker 1: like what the headline she's using as her resource. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: these are her resources. And of course, again, well there's
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  Speaker 1: obviously a method to her madness.
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  Speaker 3: Platforms now by politicians. We are in incredibly scary times,
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  Speaker 3: and funding.
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  Speaker 1: For women a catch twenty two for survivors of domestic
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  Speaker 1: violence trump edmins simultaneously slashes housing and VOWA funds. So housing,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. That's probably fraud, I'm guessing.
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  Speaker 1: And VOWA, the Violence Against Women Act, that was bullshit
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  Speaker 1: to begin with, and Hannah could go on and on
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  Speaker 1: about it, so I'll just say that, like it is
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  Speaker 1: a special kind of extra government funded services that are
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  Speaker 1: not necessary because women are not at risk. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: if anything, because they still have the delude model, men
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  Speaker 1: are still at more at risk. So but she's just
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  Speaker 1: gonna like, again, this is all emotional stuff that she's doing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, even if you just want to look
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  Speaker 2: at feminists prioritize feminist theory, feminist conjecture, and the political
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  Speaker 2: utility of feminist conjecture over actually protecting women. So whenever
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  Speaker 2: they talk about feminist like Byrony Claire, talk about domestic violence,
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  Speaker 2: they're actually stealing valor in order to advance their own
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  Speaker 2: ideological positions, and they don't give a crap about women
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  Speaker 2: who are dealing with domestic violence. Well, they don't give
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  Speaker 2: a crap about men, but that's obvious. They also don't
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  Speaker 2: craive a crap about women. If they did, they wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: put feminist conjecture over interventions that actually reduce the rate
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  Speaker 2: at which women experience domestic violence. But yes, Byrony, let
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  Speaker 2: tell us all, tell us all about what you advocate for.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, keeps on getting slashed and Luis Row's new Netflix
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  Speaker 3: documentary into the Manisphere. We see glimpses of women who
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  Speaker 3: are in relationships with these man who says stuff like this.
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  Speaker 1: You're married.
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  Speaker 4: Are you saying you're not in the monogamous relationship?
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  Speaker 1: One sided monigoy?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so apparently this was taken out of context as well.
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  Speaker 2: And his wife or not wife, sorry, his live baby
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  Speaker 2: mama is bisexual, so not even sure who's the one
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  Speaker 2: driving this.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's why he would say, you know, I'd show
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  Speaker 1: them a picture of my wife and how attractive she is,
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  Speaker 1: and then he'd bring a girl home. So that's probably
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  Speaker 1: that explains that more. But Louis throws not see the
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  Speaker 1: thing is he's going to.
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  Speaker 2: But that's Yeah, of course, that's that's what you do.
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  Speaker 2: But this is also not really one sided monogamy. He
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  Speaker 2: might be framing that for his audience, but if this
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  Speaker 2: is something he does with his wife, and his wife
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  Speaker 2: is having sex with people who are not him, how
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  Speaker 2: is it one sided monogamy? Explain that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, if she's.
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  Speaker 2: Engaging in sexual behavior with other women and he is, also,
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  Speaker 2: that's not one sided monogamy. That's swinging just with women.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's so even the nomenclature doesn't seem to be accurate.
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  Speaker 2: And then we have to listen to Byrony Claire add
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  Speaker 2: her own bullshit onto what is already incorrectly.
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  Speaker 5: Characterized exactly it's it's it's like I said, orders of
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  Speaker 5: magnitude lies like Luis Thereau tells the first lie and
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  Speaker 5: maybe it's a small lie, and then Brynclair another feminist
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  Speaker 5: activists take that and they expand on the lie and
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  Speaker 5: then make it into a much bigger lie.
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  Speaker 1: And it's harder to debunk because you have to go
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  Speaker 1: several steps back. So if somebody catches her in a lie,
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  Speaker 1: for example, then then you just hold on to the
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  Speaker 1: the other lie, the lie that preceded it, and people
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  Speaker 1: don't they'd have to do that extra work to figure
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  Speaker 1: out that that's also a lie. So it's yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like when feminists make they make
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  Speaker 1: claims and they use feminist data, they are taking lies
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  Speaker 1: to make lies that you know that that are exponentially growing,
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  Speaker 1: and it's harder to unpack them all because you'd have
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  Speaker 1: to take you don't even know where like the the
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  Speaker 1: the BS begins. So maybe you just tackle the one
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  Speaker 1: and you're just like accept everything else, right, So well, and.
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  Speaker 2: Then there's the there's also the fact that this is
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  Speaker 2: not traditional.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not okay, this.
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  Speaker 2: Is absolutely not traditional. There's no traditional society where you
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  Speaker 2: have threesomes with another woman and your wife, all right,
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  Speaker 2: that's not This is actually a liberal post sexual revolution
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  Speaker 2: arrangement that could only have occurred because of feminism. Openly,
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  Speaker 2: there's the only way that this wasn't this he's declaring
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  Speaker 2: this openly is because he is not a traditionalist realistically.
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  Speaker 2: He is a downstream effect of sexual quote unquote liberation.
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  Speaker 2: So he's he is a sexual libertine and that is
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  Speaker 2: not traditional, right, No society would have accepted this prior
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  Speaker 2: to the nineteen sixties. Certainly, not openly he'd probably get Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Lord Byron had some pretty sketchy things that he did,
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  Speaker 2: and he was removed from polite society, Like you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: declare stuff like this as a man in public and
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  Speaker 2: expect to continue to be received in polite society. Right,
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  Speaker 2: this was not at behavior. So once again we're looking
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  Speaker 2: at a man who is downstream of feminism. This guy
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't exist if feminism hadn't existed, and now we have
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  Speaker 2: a feminist complaining about it.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yep, okay, it's astounding.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if you don't want libertines, don't throw your
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  Speaker 2: feminism all over the floor. That's how you get ants.
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  Speaker 1: All right, there you go, yep, all right, let's keep going.
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  Speaker 1: Women don't want to sleep with other men when they
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  Speaker 1: love a man.
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  Speaker 3: Did you also catch this moment?
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  Speaker 4: One side in monogamy means what it means like the
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  Speaker 4: mother and my children.
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  Speaker 1: The woman that I'm with, she doesn't talk.
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  Speaker 3: About the man, he doesn't let her talk to other men.
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  Speaker 3: Isolation his other girlfriends.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, So notice she frames it as isolation,
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  Speaker 1: like like this guy's baby mama is trapped and can't
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  Speaker 1: like go out and do things with other people, not
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  Speaker 1: that she chose it, not that she didn't say in
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  Speaker 1: the documentary that she was okay with this arrangement. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, this polygyny, which is what it kind of is,
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  Speaker 1: assuming it's true, because these guys are salesmen that could
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  Speaker 1: be exaggerating or just outright lying about their conquests. But
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  Speaker 1: let's assume it's true for the sake of argument. This
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: polygyny situation is another thing that feminism created. So it's
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: you know, you can't you can't blame traditionalism or Christianity
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: or any of the other made up shit that you
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: want to blame, because that would that's literally not what
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: So when when you have a situation where you have
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: undercut the sexual marketplace value of what, what is it,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: eight percent of men Now it's not even the average man,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: you know, it's two standard deviations better looking than average
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: or or more attractive than average man, is now fucked
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: well when you do that, when you undercut the sexual
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: marketplace value of that many men, the remaining men who
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: are being hunted by what a couple dozen women each
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: can set the terms, and this dude set his terms,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: and she decided, okay, those are the terms I'll live by,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: you know. Interestingly enough, she seems to uh, I mean
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: she I guess she parleres she leveraged her bisexuality as
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: a sales point. But again, this wouldn't happen. This man
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: would not exist, He would not be public about his
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: sexual appetites. If he's the driver of this, who knows,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: maybe she is all right, he wouldn't be doing this
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: if it weren't for the sexual quote unquote revolution and
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: also feminism undermining most men. So this guy can have
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: multiple women, right again, another symptom of feminism, and he
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: gets to set the terms because that's how it works.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: That's how it works, you know, if you if all
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: if most women are going after the top twenty percent,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: top ten percent, whatever it is now right, Like, I
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: just walked past a couple of women in my town
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: of what twelve hundred people less, and they were talking about, uh,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: culling the weak from the herd as they I guess,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: scrolled through some stupid dating app. I'm like listening to this,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, that's what that. This is the downstream
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: effect of culling the week from the herd and only
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: going after the top top top men. Well, you got
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of competition and they can set the terms.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: That is not patriarchy, And I guess it's the manosphere.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Is that manosphere is that like all these guys standing
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: or giving money to me.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I think the manosphere is the is just men responding
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to that market, that market reality. Like they're like, okay,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: so this is what women are doing. They're basically calling
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the weak. Well, I don't want to be cold, so
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I'm going to basically make myself as appealing as possible.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: And it I think it does create cynicism in those
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: men too, because then they they basically they make it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: The men don't do this, The women make it transactional
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: in a way because they're just looking at it. It's
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: like go into the grocery store and you're just trying
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to get the best deal on, you know, your vegetables,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: and that's the only thing that matters. You're not concerned
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: with like you know what what, I don't know which
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: one's gonna stay good longer, what's gonna pair better with
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: whatever you plan on eating or whatever. You're just looking
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: at the best deal, you know, and then men just
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: see it. It's like Okay, these are. These women are
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: just looking for the best deal, so I'm gonna like
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: just do that and all the other stuff. It's they're
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: gonna I can see how they're cynical, maybe even a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: little bit bitter, you know.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean we wouldn't be if if being
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: the best deal means that you have to be three
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: inches taller than average, Right, how's that gonna happen for anyone?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, just it's it is just and what The
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: reason why this is the case is because feminism has
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: taught women that their primary social value is in rejecting men,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: and that in a relationship with the men they're being
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: taken advantage of, they're being oppressed. The man gets the
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: good deal, they get nothing. So feminism is told that
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: women to this so that the only men who can
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: rise above women's belief that their social value increases with
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: rejection are men who have so much ridiculous amounts of
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: social proof. Literally, they've constructed a situation where the only
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: men who are attractive are men who already have multiple,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: like dozens of women orbiting them, which means that even
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: if all of the men in the manosphere who are
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: watching these guys talk about their what their lifestyle. If
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: they all rose up and had this, they were just
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the goods, like they represented the same quality of goods
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: as these men, they would still be screwed. So you
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: guys are in the manosphere. You are all chasing something
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: that doesn't exist and can't possibly exist, because as soon
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: as you get to that level, it is, it is gone.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: It is a moving target that has moved to the
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: next level. Because it's always whatever men who can get
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: multiple women. So if every man is as good as
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: this dude, what's his name, James, the Redhead, the soulss one?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why am I forgetting his name?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, say everyone in his audience, every man in his audience,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Justin Waller was just suddenly at Justin Waller's level, wouldn't matter.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't get a woman because the women the only
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: ones of you, of you multiple Justin Wallers would be
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: the next top five percent of Justin Wallers who can
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: get the best women or the most women. So it's
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: always this moving target. Until we get rid of this
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: nonsense about how women gain social value through rejecting men,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: how women lose social value by being in a relationship
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: with the men, how women are being cheated out of
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: something by being in a relationship with the men. How
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: relationships with men are a source of women's oppression. Therefore,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: there's always there's always a negative that men like a
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: debt in a relationship that a man can never get
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: enough to actually overcome. There's all that debt just just
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: going into the relationship. A man is in debt to
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: his woman, and he should. He has to bring so
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: much to even overcome that debt. Yeah, and you notice
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: that this is the attitude that a lot of women have,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: at least the ones who talk about it on the internet,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: that men come into a relationship with debt, and the
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: only men who can who can pay off that debt
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: are the very tippy top. And they can only pay
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: off that debt because they have other women who want them.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: And and it's the other women's social proof that actually
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: neutralizes the debt the man makes. The man creates in
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: it by wanting to be in a relationship with a woman.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: And you're never gonna you cannot fix this by constantly
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: jumping through hoops and trying to get up over the
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: bar wherever it is now right, you can't fix this
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: that way, like I said, And then this is what
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: what's with this is my big criticism of the Manisphere.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: It's dysfunctional.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you can the Manisphere being the guys
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: that are featured in this documentary. Those guys, yeah, I mean.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: We'll think about it if they're if if it was
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: a situation where their audience actually increased. First of all,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: what level did your audience have to actually increase to
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: be up at the Justin Justin.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Walkers, that was Waller, Justin Waller Waller.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: What level? I mean, is it even possible for his audience.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: To be most because he's tall?
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, I assume so, But like, ultimately anyway,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I yeah, I ultimately, these Manisphere guys that are being
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: featured here, they're only there because they're trying to fill
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: a market. There's a market for men looking to maximize
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: their ability to attract a woman. These guys are selling
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: themselves as red pill but they're clearly not because their
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: whole brain is built on attracting women. It's a blue
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: pilled belief system from the ground up. But they they know.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I think these guys are using the loneliness and the
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: frustration that the majority of men are experiencing with, you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: trying to find a wife that they could start a
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: family with, which was which it's nothing controversial about that.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: That's why I get annoyed with it even being called
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: a conservative position. It's like, no, it's a normal position.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: It's like how we perpetuate the species. It's it's normal.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: But it's at the point now where it's so difficult
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and so frustrating for men to attain that these quote
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: unquote red pill manisphere guys can come and sell them
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: this promise that if they just follow their instructions, go,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you know, get their join their group, go to the telegram,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: buy the classes, whatever it is, that they'll be able
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: to figure it out. Now, Yeah, I think these guys
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: are exploiting these men because those men, that's not going
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: to help them, because, as you said, if any of
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: them can even become anything like a Justin Waller, they're
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: still going to probably get passed up because women will
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: simply adapt their ridiculous standards to match the new layout,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: the new landscape, and they'll be like, well, now I
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: want five percent of these guys because that's how they
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: see the world. It's like, how I can do better,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: then I can do better than this, and the majority
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: of these guys are just not going to be able
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: to do it, like the overwhelming majority. This is something
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: that I have said, we've said on this channel, and yeah,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Andrew Wilson has said it too. He says, well, my
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: problem with them is that their prescription is not going
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to help them because it's not really the problem. The
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: men are not doing anything wrong. Ultimately, they're not right.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: So the reason why it doesn't fill the debt like
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: the debt that a man right now, women think that
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: a man gets in a relationship with him, with him,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: he comes with a whole bunch of debt. And that
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: debt is what patriarchy, oppression, male privilege, emotional labor, the
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: much bullshittery of the wage or the wage gap, and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: the chore gap right, the household labor gap, all of this,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: this entire narrative that baggage a man brings into a
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: relationship according to feminism, and the women who believe in
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: this crap, right, so they bring it in this gigantic debt. Well,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: how does a man neutralize that debt that social.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: He has to neutralize her debt too, because she shows
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: up with debt.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's that's functional debt.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: To her what she's inswig is imagine and then her
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: actual debt.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I know. But how does he neutralize
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: that social debt? The only way is social credit like
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: that not social credit like uh what is that? That term?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: The you pre approve Basically by other women. He has
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: to come into the relationship pre approved by multiple women
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: before she'll consider it, because that's the only way he
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: can neutralize his debt. Like if if Justin Waller decided, hey,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I don't want to have an open marriage anymore, wouldn't
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: his marriage survive?
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: That?
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: If he can't demonstrate that he can pull women or
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: he wants to stop and he's like, no, I'm not
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: interested this in this anymore. And incidentally, I can get
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: into a bit of the vas oppress and research that's
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: the male bonding hormone. Uh, just to just as an analysis.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: But I'll just only you guys.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Want me to do. We have a lot of video
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: to get through and then I have a couple of
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: other videos I want to show off really quickly.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: If if he did close off his marriage, right, would
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: it survive or his relationship would it survive? If he
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: told her tomorrow. I'm not going to demonstrate my social
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: value to other women to you anymore. I don't feel
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: like being your monkey. You're just gonna have to value
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: me for me. What would she say? What would she do?
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Would she stay right? What about when he gets old? Like?
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: What about when he's in his sixties and you can't
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: pull women anymore? Is she going to stay right? Here's
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: the question, because that looks like to me that he
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: is demon He has to continuously demonstrate his value to
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: other women for her to continue to value him. Now,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: that is a possibility. She may just be a bisexual
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: salute who knows, right, Yeah, maybe you're her kink and
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: she just doesn't want to let it go in a
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: monogamous relationship, and she doesn't care about freaking STDs and
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: her children. But that's a you know, there could be
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: that too, you know, but this is a possible interpretation.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: She wants him to continue to demonstrate that she had
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: he has surplus social value, and the way that he
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: does that is by continuing to demonstrate that he's desirable
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: to other women.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Well, she literally says, no, no, I know it's true.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: She says it in the documentary The Reason why she
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: likes him is because he is desirable. Basically, she likes
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: that he makes women jealous of her. That's what she
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: basically says in so many words in the documentary. So
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: she's not not benefiting now, Bryanty here just to bring
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: it back to this is claiming that she's a prisoner.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: She's literally like a prisoner of this guy, even though
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: she says in the documentary, I like that other women
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: want the man that is mine, that has that as
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: my children, Like there's something that she gets out of it.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: So it is completely selfish. And yeah, when his sexual value,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: like if it deteriorates her, if something happens, then she
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: might look at him, or if some younger guy that's
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: got more money shows up, you know, I don't know.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they're gonna I think that
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: she's gonna become less desirable over time though, uh not
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: just because she's passed a few kids through there, but
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: because she's also getting older. And I think that like
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: she's kind of like it doesn't mean that she's not
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be tempted, but I don't think that the opportunity
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: is going to be there as much. But I do
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: think that she's not gonna see him the same way.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that happens to everyone, right, Yeah so,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: but in terms of the like, and this is the
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: reason why I bring this up is because there's this
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: moment where he was they're talking about all this, and
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: saw was talking to his his woman, even though apparently
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: he doesn't let his woman talked to him in guessing.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Well, originally wouldn't do that, but the roau basically got
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: got him to let him see her.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why why would you do anyway? I went over
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: that last time. But there's this moment where she's talking
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: about this situation and he doesn't.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't look very happy. He doesn't look like
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: a happy dude. And I'm like thinking about this, and
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: it's like, is this really what you want? Constantly proving
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: yourself to your wife by pulling women like and honestly,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: if you look at like the vasuppress and research if
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: if it is a conservative struck, like if the endochronology
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: is conservative, which it generally is, that's not a necessarily
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: a very happy place for a male pair bonding animal
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: because they tend to actually start to get aggressive towards
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: strange females like, it's uh, it's it's an it's an
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: effect of vacippressing. But I don't know, maybe she's fine
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: with it. She's fine with it. Hopefully their kids don't
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: get anything disgusting. Yeah, all right, anyway, let's keep going.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Let's keep going.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Tattooed on them that.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Are like the hard tattoo on my name on them?
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Why would they do that?
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Why would they do what?
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Tattoo your name.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: On the branded as his?
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Not?
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: So, the women got tattoos of Justin Waller's name on them,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: according to Justin Waller, and that according to the to
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: through the way that it's framed, it's already bad enough
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: that these women are so enthralled that they got tattoos
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: of this guy's name on them. Even though I don't
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: think Justin is saying that you should do that, they're
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: just choosing to do that in the assuming again, assuming
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: all this is true, so women are too sing to
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: get a man's name tattooed on them, which yeah, should
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: speak to their character. But whatever, the rus not gonna
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna go there because he's he's got a frame.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Like seriously, though, you you're you're dating, right, you're a
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: woman and you, I guess, want to have a sexual
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: relationship with a man who's not Justin Waller and you
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: got his freaking tattoo on your body.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: How do you what?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: What's the conversation that happens.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I think that I think that that you would be
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: surprised at the depths that some people will go to.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: And maybe these women have lots of tattoos and the like,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: maybe they have multiple men's names on them. We don't know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: like we don't know like how you know, trashy they are,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: how low their standards might be. I mean, I'm not
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: saying that they are low or anything like that, but
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I think getting a tattoo is it's sort of tattoo
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: of a person's name, of a of a well, no,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: of a man that you've a man that you've slept with.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: It's not just like.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Are you kidding O? Good lord?
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just saying, like I think that women can
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: be that impulsive. I'll put it that way. And but
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: here's the thing that I'm trying to drive at. I'm
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: not because I don't know what's in I would never
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: do that, like, I don't I wouldn't put Lindsay's name
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: on me, and I'm I'm going to grow and die
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: with her, but I'm not going to get a tattoo
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: of her name. I don't I don't need to be
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: reminded like that I'm with her. So but anyway, that's
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: not the point. The point is you have women making
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: the choice to get a man's name tattooed on them,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: and through is presenting this in his documentary as something
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: that's already supposed to make the audience go, oh my god,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: for this man, how could you? How?
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: What?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: How did this? How could you let a man like
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: that get you to do that to yourself? That's what
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the audience is supposed to feel. That's why that was
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: left in. You know, you have to understand that when
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: you watch a documentary that involved a number of interviews,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: everything that you see is there very carefully placed there
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: to get you closer to a certain goal. Okay, and
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: generally that's not the truth. But Bryrony, because she compiles
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: lines on top, she says, her claim is that this
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: is his way of branding the women. So she says
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: they're branded now, So she's almost claiming that he is
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: going around with a brand of his name and putting
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: it on women and making them his property, even though
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: that doesn't come up in the documentary at all. So
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: you see how this escalates, How it goes from woman
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: decides to get a tattoo of a man's name on her, which, yeah,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: you can have whatever opinion on that you want to,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: but that would be a judgment on the woman's behavior.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: But we don't talk about that at all. Thoru just
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: pretends like women don't make decisions. Immediately cuts to oh,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Justin must have gotten them to do it somehow, like
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: or he's or these women don't know they must they
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: must have thought he was gonna stay with them forever
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and that if they got a tattoo that he would
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: stick around or something. That's that's what Theroux suggests with
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: his clip, and then Bryan when he says, no, he
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: he he branded them. So you see how it escalates.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about, the way that these
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: people they take something that's already a lie and they
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: make it worse.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: So anyway, yeah, of course I see that, And of
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: course she's saying that because she consistently, she consistently removes
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: women's own choices, like what happens if men are totally
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: disconnected from women and women still make choices that feminists
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: don't like. Yeah, like, he doesn't have control over those women, Byrony,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: unless you're gonna argue that they were dick mesmerized or something.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean again, if she yeah in his thrall,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: if she can't, I don't think that. I think that's
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: a last resort for Bryanny Claire because what she'd like
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: to do is say these men are just forceful and
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: violent and rape and they just made these women do this.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: But if there's no evidence of that, then she'll lean
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: on the thrall thing. But but the thrall thing is
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a weaker argument because then what
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: it means is, oh, so women were attracted to this
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: guy and they just did this, you know, like some
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: people might actually conclude something rational.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: So anyway, his wife did it by choice, they've done
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: it by choice. They just did it because they wanted to.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Probably because they saw it all my my wife, just
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: like the other guys.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: He didn't want Louie to be talking about.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: That doesn't that doesn't just that doesn't actually discredit what
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: he said, Byrony, Like I'm confused. Yeah, well, and all
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: because they chose to do it, and and and she
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: shows a clip, Oh they saw it on my wife. Yes,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: that doesn't change the fact that they chose to do it, Byrony.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: But remember though, the way that she says they chose
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: to do it, And then she rolls her eyes. She's
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: suggesting that women don't do that on their own accord,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Like women don't make choices when when the choices are poor,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: then women didn't make them. They only make the only
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: way choices when those are are good. In the eyes
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: of Briarte Claire, when she decides that was a good decision,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: then it's oh, you did that. But if it's a
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: bad decision, your man made you do that, there's no
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: way you did that.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: You know that's true, though, My choices are only my
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: own choices as long as Byrony Claire approves of them. Repulsive, annoying. Okay,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: let's keep going.
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: All right, want her to be on camera.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Well, we did eventually get to see his wife, and
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: it turns out that she was an accomplished woman. She
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: was an X ray technician, which requires in the US
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: a minimum of two years of higher education. Here in
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: al tato is three years but he did the noble
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: thing of cutting her wings, and she loves the gilded
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: cage that she's in.
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: I feel so good in my femininity because of how
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: masculine Justine is.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: She was cheated on in previous relationships. She was treated
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: terribly and so her expectations for what she deserves are
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: basically in the gutter.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: And so my biggest thing, so the brianny is now
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: she's saying, this woman she clearly can't make good decisions
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: because she chose to be a stay at home mom
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: and hears me saying, oh, because she was lied to
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: it abuse and by other men and speed it on.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: So you know, she's only in this position because of men. Basically,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: So brianny is also actually stripping this woman of making
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: personal choices that couldn't have happened because it was rational.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: That must have been man's fault.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, So my my problem is also so we're going
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: to focus on her being a homemaker as the worst
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: aspect of this are we yep, or the aspect that
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: we should.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: This is the bad ending, bad ending in a video game.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: This is.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: That's that's the problem that Byrony has with this Okay.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Yep, the wife, the well, the mama, she got the
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: bad ending you should have, like you know, should have
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: grinded some more, you know, like got the best gear.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Then she would have gotten the good ending, which is
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: being single with kids or something like not being with
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: a man. That's for sure.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Well, she could easily still be single with kids. She
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: always has that option. Byrony. Yeah, the my my question
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: is also she says, this woman doesn't know how to
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: choose a man. And yet the problem, the big problem
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: prob that this woman is having is that her man
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: is being chosen by multiple women.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Also, I like you said again, notice
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: that she's she says, she's living in a gilded cage.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: This is another feminist trope thing right where you know,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: a man like to have I think Justin Waller's worth
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: like tens of millions of dollars. He's a multi multimillionaire,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: and he basically I assume his wife is or his
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: girl or whatever, is well taken care of. She doesn't
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: appear to be in trouble. They have two daughters, they
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: live in a multiple homes. She's got a pool, she's
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: got like all this stuff and Bryanty's looking at it, going, ugh,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: what a prison? What a gulag that you live in?
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Like it bothers me because it's like, you know, he's
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: probably say, what do you want about the guy? But
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: he probably does work hard to uh make that happen,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: and that's why she says, well, he basically works hard
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: all day and I stay home and take care of
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: the kids. So she's actually standing by him. You know again,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: whatever you think about that arrangement is one thing, but
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: like you can't just like take the piss out of
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: what she has. Look at that fucking oven. Yeah anyway, Yeah,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: but well, I.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Mean, let's let's let's put it this way. You can't
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: take a piss out of this aspect of their relationship,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: right the fact that she feels satisfied with him, She
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: feels like he's a good provider, she feels like he
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: has enough female attention for her to continue to be
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: attracted to him. Like, how do you take the like,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: how do you she's got it, Brony, She's got what
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: she wants.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Apparently wouldn't manifestell support this.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of bag that this woman's got.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: He's definitely got the bag.
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: All right, anyway, honestly, I can take the truth.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Don't tell what kind of thing. You don't need to know.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: I don't need to details.
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: What do I need to And it's not even gory.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: But it turns out that they're not even married again.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Not not. I didn't bring the state into it. Why
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: did you not get married in the eyes of the state.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: The state is already in it, sir.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I mean Justin says he didn't get married in the
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: eyes of the state. They may have just gotten uh
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: like agreed to stay together or maybe they got married
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: like religiously but not legally. And I don't blame him
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: because of divorce laws. I think it's probably a good
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: idea maybe, but he's fine with it. I mean, anyway,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: apparently after the filming, she bailed on her relationship. Uh
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: isn't that the other girl you're thinking of? Richard Myron?
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Those just two years come on?
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: They I mean they bailed on any future.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't look into Justin Waller's situation
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: how it developed.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think Justin Waller was the one.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I think it was it was Myron. Yeah, but I
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: but I have receipts for the Myron thing, that's a
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: that's a whole other that that's actually really fucked up
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: what the Row did there. And I'm I'm guessing that
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: everyone in his interviews got similar treatment in terms of
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: the editing and selective let's say what they choose to
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: show and not to show. Okay, anyway, Alise, are you
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: still there?
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, I just have my mute thing on just in
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: case there's any like noise, cross contamination.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, No, fair enough, I just you're quiet. Okay. So
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: let's see the financial side. Okay, let's keep going.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that doesn't that seems more risky for you.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Maybe this leaves have vulnerable to him just up and leaving.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: And I looked this up because here in alt if
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: you've lived together for two years and you aren't in
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: a common law marriage, therefore you've got a whole bunch
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: of protections. In the US, common law marriage is not
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: actually common, it's fair.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Common law marriage in the USA is a legally recognized
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: union between partners who live together and tend to be
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: married and hold their selves out as spouses without a
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: formal ceremony or license. Only a few states still recognize this,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: and once established, a legal divorces required to end the relationship. Interesting,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: they don't say which states. Okay, no, no, wait wait wait.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait, only a few states still recognize this.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: That does't's what that's what her source success.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that doesn't make sense. Let me just take
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: a little good thing. What's going on here? He continue.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna just all right, I'm.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Going to continue while you look it up. Yeah, I
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: don't trust Byrony Claire as far as I could throw her,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: which is based.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: On what I'm looking at, not very far at reguritating
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: the messages which he has fed her.
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: It does seem more risky for me, But I don't
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: feel like I'm at risk.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: She feels safe with him. She doesn't feel at risk. Well,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: of course you don't feel at risk right now, because
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: you're attractive, you're carrying his baby, you're still carrying on
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: his legacy, and things are working fine. You're not fighting back.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: He's able to like cheat on you behind your back,
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: or like bring woman home, or to whatever the hell
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: he wants to do.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. See the framing again. He says cheat on
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: you behind your back. But if she knows that he
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: could bring a woman home, which she says she knows
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: and she's bisexual. Then he's not doing anything behind her back,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: like there's nothing that suggests he's being In fact, Louis
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Throux brings it up to her, he's like, well, what
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: do you think about the you know, him bringing women home,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: And she's like, eh, it's fine. I mean I said,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: it's not my cup of tea. But she's not being deceived.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: That's the one thing you can say with some certainty,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: you know, can't cheat on him behind his back? Yeah
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: she could sure?
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: What Yeah, of course she could cheat on him behind
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: his back. She's I guess Byrony thinks that women have
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: no ability, like they literally do not exist as people
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: with violation. When Byrony Claire refuses to acknowledge that are
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: these people is justin Waller in Texas.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I think that like he has he has a place
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: in Miami, Florida, and he has a place in Louisiana.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I believe, so, I don't. I don't know about Texas.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Are commonly listed is fully recognizing common law marriage Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Montana,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Rhode Island, Texas, Utah, in the District of Columbia, Okay, okay,
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Well again limited recognition. So this is interesting. So common
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: law was recognized in the past and now it's not. Okay, interesting, Yeah,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: all right, keep going.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Well I was gonna say too. Another thing that Brian's
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: doing this is obvious anyways, is that she says, well,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: he can just up and leave, and it's it's funny
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: because it presumes that a man who is a father
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: to children would just be able to completely disconnect and
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: go away. And it reminds me of, yeah, of course,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: she just assumes he could just do that. Look, I
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: don't know the guy, but I know that fathers are
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: particularly protective of their children, and if you act like
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: that's completely optional, it's kind of ridiculous. I think that
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: in general, especially if they've committed some time to it. Right.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there's no such thing as a
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: dead beat dead but but I don't think it's as
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: common as people want you to believe it is. I
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: think a lot of in many cases, men are excluded
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: from being involved with their children. And it was there
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: was something that happened I saw on X. I don't
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: have the video, but I can probably look for it
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: if you guys want to see it where they were
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: asking men. It was sort of like a dating show thing.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: I think they were asking the male participants questions about
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: to like sort of judge their character. And one of
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: the questions was if there was a fire at your house.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I think it was a fire and your wife and
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: children were in the fire, but you could only rescue
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: one of them. So it was basically the uh, you know,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: trolley car dilemma, which one would you rescue? And the
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: men all said their children, and the women were pissed.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: But the men were like, I would save the children,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: and like, because they're like I have to choose one,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the one that's the most vulnerable. I'm
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: gonna save the kids. I'm gonna save my kids first, right,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: And of course it was I think they were trying
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: to paint it as a terrible thing, but I was like, no,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: that's that makes sense, Like, can't the woman save herself,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: shouldn't she also be trying to save some kids. But
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the women were upset. Of course they didn't. None of
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: the people involved in this conversation actually had children. They
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: were like, you know, young adults looking at a date
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: and stuff. But it sort of like showed you like,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: you know, it was like a peek into I guess
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: the way that men see the world in terms of
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: the vulnerable and those in need of their uh sacrifice.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Did they ask the women?
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, this was a question. It was just
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: a little clip and it was only it was directed
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: only at the men. There was a question for the
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: men because it was just that was what that was
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: the setup.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Would you save the men? I was supposed to kids,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Probably wouldn't save anything, right, I have no idea, no,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: but this is like, uh, okay, all right, that's it.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna spurg all right. So this is entirely predicted
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: with like vast suppressing, which is again the male bonding hormone.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Like this, this idea that men just walk away from
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: what they bond to is wrong. It's actually incredibly difficult
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: for men on even a hormonal level to do it
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: at an endocrine level because vast oppressing is going to
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: punish them with agony if they do so. Like That's
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: that's where all the mate guarding and the uh like,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: the the desire for proximity comes from. Is that it's
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: that you know, there's good, it's gonna you're gonna be
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: punished if you don't do it. So it's it's absurd
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: to say that men are gonna walk away from their
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: children or their bound targets, Like I mean, the problem
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: here is that what the way that they're pursuing their
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: lifestyle is probably gonna weaken their bond. I don't know,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: maybe not. There is a big there's a few possibilities
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: here that just based on what I have read in
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: terms of how these two individuals have arranged their relationship.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: And again, this relationship wouldn't exist traditionally, So I don't
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: know what the hell Byrony Claire is thinking about here.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: This is not a traditional relationship. This man wouldn't be
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: accepted in polite society if he was in any other
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: time period aside from that time period directly proceeding feminists
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: sexual revolution. So he exists in a feminist society. He
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: only exists in a feminist society. So you're looking at
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: something that only exists in a feminist society that is
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: entirely constructed by the destruction of the feminist destruction of
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: the family, the feminist destruction of the sexual marketplace value
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: of the average man. This guy doesn't exist outside of that.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: You know, outside of this particular greenhouse, he would not
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: exist that feminist constructed he would not exist, all right,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: But there's certain things that are going on in his
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: relationship that would concern me that have nothing to do
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: with the fact that she's a housewife, having kids, or
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: left her her job right, or lives in a lovely mansion.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: And also she is protected if he tries to walk away,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: the state will make him pay child support, are you kidding?
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: And that child support if he's making millions that child
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: could support could be it could be many multiples of
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: an X ray technician's salary a year. So she's set
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: she's risking very little in all of this, Let's be honest, right,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: And in terms of how they've set up their bonds.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: There are some serious potential risks that have nothing to
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: do with the fem this conversation, but there are They
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: are definitely there. For example, for her, if she actually
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: genuinely has an attachment to him, not just his ability
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: to pull other women right, she might find that he
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: he ends up with the woman who says, no, you
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: have to choose, I'm not I'm not sharing you with anyone,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: and she will find that that woman is her it
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: is something that she will have difficulty competing with because
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: this is something that nobody talks about. It's seen in
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Polygonis societies. I've seen it among swinging like the testimony.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not in that environment. I just have
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: read some testimony is that the woman who fights for
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: the man is the one he feels most bonded to,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: so her own you know, like do whatever you want,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: play the field, maybe undermining his sense that she actually
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: wants him in that way. This is why the Christians
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: do they do what they do, you know, it's it's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: because there are these pitfalls that you end up in
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: when you engage in this kind of free love situation
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: or like Polly or what is it, one sided monogamy
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: whatever this is, Like she she should really be careful
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: because if if in the in the course of his
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: trial trail, his explorations, and his travels, he finds a
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: woman who says, no, I'm not sharing, she might end
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: out up the door because he's constructed in such a
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: way that he's going to respond to that. And you
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: see this over and over again, like with Polygonus societies,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: with a woman who is in a relationship with multiple women,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: and is in a society that you know, manages the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: fallout of that, because it's not easy. These relationships are
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: incredibly difficult, and they have all kinds of social support
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: for them and expectations like in Islam, you have to
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: have four houses that are equal between your wives. They
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: have to get the same amount of money. You have
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: to spend the same amount of time with them, right,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: you don't get to just freeball. And there's other kinds
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: of restrictions in other societies just to try to prevent
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: the jealousy, which is the big continuous problem. But the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: other problem with the jealousy, which they don't talk about,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: is the jealous wife is going to be the one
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: the husband thinks actually gives a crap about him. And
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: the reason why is because to her he is a man,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: that her man, not a function to to every other wife,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: he fulfills a function to her, She's actually he is
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: actually her man, and he's going to feel the biggest
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: bond to that woman. And it's something I've seen again
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: in the swing swinger context. So an example, I'm thinking
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: of his Updike, John Updike. Have you heard of him? No,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: it's like they used to have, like in the sixties
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: they all the writing scene would have like swingers. And
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: he had a wife I don't remember where. They were
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: like a really famous liberal kind of community where everybody
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: was doing it. They were like swapping partners, right, And
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: he had a wife who was completely okay with it.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: He's like, you can have whoe are you on? No,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: And then he ended up with a woman who said, no,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: it's me or her, I'm not sharing you. Guess who
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: he ended up choosing. He chose the woman who told
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: him he had to stop and wouldn't share him, and
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: she was actually sort of psychotically controlling. She wouldn't even
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: share him with his kids, which was crazy. But this
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: is something that nobody talks about. And that's one of
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: the pitfalls of this guy's relationship. It's a pitfoll of
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: all kinds of all of the weird kind of arrangements
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: that people try to get into to heal the wounds
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: that they had as children in the worst way possible, which.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Again is something that you know, Bryanny is incapable of
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: doing because she like she has no sympathy for this guy. So,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: like all the stuff in the and and look, there
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: was the road to his credit. Did put that Justin
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Waller had some abuse in his history. He didn't like
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: dig anything at all because he's a piece of shit,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: but he did touch on it, and Brian, he's not
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: going to touch on it at all. This is like
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: the flip side of the you know, the the piling
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: on of lies to like drive home a message is
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: the removal of truths to like, you know, to further
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: cement the message. So she doesn't bring up that this,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: this Justin Waller was abused by his mother, doesn't come
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: up at all all right, so anyway, mm hmm, okay, no,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: combined with all.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: Of the pets of the married life, of course, he's
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: fine with things for now whilst you're still hot.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Truly, you don't even understand men, Byrony, Why the fuck
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: are you married to one if you hate them so much?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: She actually mentions her husband in this.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Oh does she? What does she say about him?
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Let's keep going him.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: No, if the relationship ended, it doesn't concern him at all.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: To me and you, I would still look at it
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: as successful, have beautiful children, beautiful memories.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: Notice who he completely misses out in all of this.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Woman that he loves. It's all about him.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: And how he's addressing her. You dip shit like she's
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: saying that directly to her?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: How would you forget she is.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: Included by his Who the hell consumes the crap?
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: How does she get so up two hundred thousand women.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what to say. He said it
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: to her, byrony. If he said I have a beautiful
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: wife too, it wouldn't make he would actually be excluding her.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: He was saying it directly to her, byrony, you didn't
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: notice that, no concern for his kids or her well
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: being because he was asked if it ended tomorrow, what
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: he would feel anyway?
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: Whatever, let's keeping wonderful years. He is always then monitoring,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: watching any time that Louis is trying to talk to her.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: She's not allowed to say anything without his approval.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 7: We have lanes.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: My lane is changing diapers, cooking and cleaning, and his
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: lane is working and providing.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 7: We don't cross into each other's lane.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: That's all. That's like a bicycle lane versus like a
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: six lane highway there.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my lane is uh.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Kids and are just taking.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Kid How many women are just like would be just fine?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: With that arrangement. I think it's a lot. I think
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: there's a reason this is what But this is like again,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: this is the feminist conundrum, Like Brianny has to confront.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: This is something we said for a long time whenever
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: they talk about problems with like, you know, with men
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: whatever it is.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: And for example, when they talk about toxic masculinity, that
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: men need to you know, be able to show their
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: emotions and cry and like you know, basically be more
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: like women is what they're saying, because masculinity is the problem.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: But they never say, well do women want that? And
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: so when when women, like regular women are just honest
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: about their desires and they just say like this like
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: this woman that she's talking about where she's like, yeah,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: we stay in our lane. I raise the kids, I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: stay at home, I cook and I clean and he
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: basically does the work and pays for everything. And I'm
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: fine with that. That's her saying this is what I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: want as a woman, And Brian is like, you're not
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: supposed to want that, And that's why she's bothered. It's
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: just like, why aren't men crying more and being more
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: like women? And men are like, well, because if we do,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: women won't be attracted to us. And she's like, no, no, no,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: that's not true. But it is true because because women do,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: like by and large, love it or hate it. They
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: don't want to see weakness in men because it makes
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: them feel unsafe. And I know that it's not a
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: good thing. I think that you know, women could should
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: use like a lesson in understanding that men are human
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: beings and they feel pain and sometimes they have to
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: express that. But this is the situation that feminism is created.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: This is the cont this is what we live in now.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: So well, I mean it's it's like, okay, let me
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: put it this way. This woman has any extra day,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: waking day of time compared to anybody else in the
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: in anywhere. She has more time in the day compared
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: to working women, compared to women who work and also
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: our wives and mothers enough to take care of. She
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: has more time in the day compared to working men,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: husbands or single She has an extra day of time
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: byrony in the week. Basically, everybody else gets six days,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: she gets seven, or everyone else gets eight gets seven days.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: She gets eight, an extra day of her life that
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: she can do with whatever way, And she probably actually
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: gets an extra day and a half because unlike others
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: stay at home mother her mom's You said that she
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: does cooking and cleaning. I highly doubt it. She probably doesn't.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: She probably doesn't do cooking and cleaning. At the very least,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: she doesn't do cleaning. And if she's not somebody who
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: enjoys cooking, she probably doesn't do cooking either. Because they
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: can afford, they can afford someone to make their meals
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: for them, they can afford someone to do cleaning, tell
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: they can probably afford childcare. So she probably is not
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: even doing the same amount of work as the average
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: stay at home mother, who herself gets an extra day
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: compared to every other person on the planet. And we're
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: supposed to think of stay at home mothers as being
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: so oppressed. We look at them with their eighth day
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: that nobody else gets. She probably has an eighth and
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: ninth and a tenth day that nobody else gets. This woman,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: and Byrony is trying to make us look at her
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: and pity her. Why are you doing that, Byrony? Why
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: I don't pity her. I envy her three extra days
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: a week. What I could do with that? Yeah, like seriously, all.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: Right, let's keep going. I think she's about to bring
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: up her husband.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: Goodness, all of these women are being abused. He also
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: said that these men very clearly have daddy issues.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 7: And need to go get Yeah.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: So she's like saying it with her husband, yeah, her dad. Yeah,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: let's keep going.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, all of these women are being abused.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: He also said that these men very clearly have daddy
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: issues and need to go get something.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: But Byron, why are you appealing to the world. Why
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: are you appealing to your husband as an authority? Yeah right, yeah,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Like she's right here, she's appealing to her husband as
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: an authority on this issue.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: I think she thinks that it will convince women. Oh,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: even the men recognize the problem. Even my husband said,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: these guys clearly have daddy issues. No, they probably have
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: mommy issues. If anything, you don't want to see that though, Like.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: What is it?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Hs tig Taki's father was excluded from his life, and
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: his mother likely turned his father against him. But I
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: know that his and his father was like a professional
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: rugby player or something. Justin Waller talked about how his
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: mom set their house on fire twice and would beat
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: her his father and that his father wasn't in the picture,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: and she's just gonna be like, oh, yeah, they must
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: have daddy issues, Like this is what I mean when
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: I say he's piling lies on top of lies. Threau
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: glosses over it and says, well, these boys clearly had
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: problems from youth, and that's what they're dealing with. They
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: have trauma. He doesn't go into specifics, but anyone who's
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: paying attention that has like two brain cells who up
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: together can be like, oh, it's because the mom was
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: piece of shit. It's because the mom was like like,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: did not want either didn't want the father involved, or
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: was actually abusive to the family. And yes, yes, guys,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: these women exist. They do exist. I know it's crazy,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: but there is such a thing as an abusive mother.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: That's a real thing. And we covered it on the show,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: like did you see Alison, did you see the news?
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: There were two things. One was the Bachelorette. This Bachelorette
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: contestant that ended up getting the show canceled because a
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: video leaked of her like abusing her ex husband. She
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: was gonna be on the Bachelorette as a woman that
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: men were all gonna compete to get and she was
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: throwing chairs at a guy and like, I think hit
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: her baby. In this video that leak, you couldn't really
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: see it, but you heard a baby crying after, like
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: the sound of something hitting something. And then there was
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: this actor Jerry O'Connell was on Bill Maher and he
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: was telling the story of how his wife and his
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: two daughters beat him because the twenty twenty four election
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: didn't go the way they wanted it to. And he
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to know if I want
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: to talk about this right now because I might lose
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: my family. He didn't want to talk about it like
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: this what I'm saying. She was obvious they were obviously
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: the abusing party. But the man was like, I don't
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: know if I should talk about this because I could
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: get in trouble. It's like, dude, you are in trouble,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: like you know so. But Brianny's just going to act
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: like they have daddy issues, Like the pattern is just
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: not why I didn't have daddy issues?
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why do they have daddy is? She's Byrony thar
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: All mentioned that because they don't have fathers, why don't
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: they have fathers? Most likely because the one person who
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: has the greatest amount of control over the relationship between
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: a man and his children decided that she did. I
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: didn't want that relationship to be to occur, and who
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: is that the mother of the children, So honestly, all
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: daddy issues are really mummy issues byrony mm hmm for
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: the most part.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Plus, I think her husband probably only said that, like
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: Briarty's husband, Pauline only said those things because he's also
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: afraid of her. And I wouldn't be surprised, because I'd
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: be terrified. I would be asking myself why did I
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: marry this person? To be honest, But anyway, Digital Artists,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: is she definitely hit the baby yet that's what it
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: looks like. But we don't know for sure, do we?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: Which heavily I agree with when he interviews Myron from
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: Fresh and Fit, one of the most popular podcasts in
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: the world, which is doing so much damage.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think women should vote. Also, I don't think
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: women should be in the military or law enforcement. I'm
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: the dictator, you are the subordinate.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: Livy was trying to interview his girlfriend Angie, who'd been
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: with him for two years. I do what I want
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: to do she's loyal to me.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: It's monogamous on her end, open on my end, and
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: she packed up in comments when I traveled. That's all
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: I really is.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: And he's also in a one sided monogamous relationship.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: She's monogamous.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Was pronounced monogamous, not monogamous? You wanted to say magnanimous. Well,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to get into all
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: of it, but maybe I'll just show you guys that
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Myron made a video called Exposing Lies of the Netflix
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: documentary Inside the Manisphere, and it's about fifty three minutes
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: where he shows you every clip because he recorded the
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: entire all the visits. I think it was like there
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: were three visits and he recorded the second and third one,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: but he recorded part of the first one as well,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: and he basically shows that his girlfriend Angel I think
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: her name was, was not at all in the way
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: that they framed it in the documentary. So I mean,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: I don't but Briartyclaire doesn't care about that. Even though
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Briarty's video let me see when did this come out?
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: This came out seven days ago and Myron Gaines's video
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: came out yesterday, so it's pretty new. I don't expect
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: that Briarty's gonna watch this hurt his video and make
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: a retraction because she's already done what she set out
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: to do. But I just want to point out that
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Myron recorded everything and his context changes that whole segment
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: like completely, yep.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: So I don't even know if we need to go
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: through Byrony's statements about this particular segment, considering.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's all bullshit. Let me see. I think
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: that's all I had for for the Briarny Claire video
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: because it's not just about the Manisphere stuff, so it's
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: you know, she's bringing up other things. I don't know
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: if I don't know if Richard wanted us to go
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: through the whole thing, but I think we're good.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: You want do you have another video?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: You want? I do have another video. I want to
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: show you guys another find.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: I don't find the fresh and part that like there's
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: nothing there, there's nothing, nothing in any of this. Like
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: if these women are okay with this ship, then whatever, right,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: it's it's their life.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: But they're not supposed to h they're not supposed to
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: be okay with this, Allison. That's really what this comes
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: down to. Like Bryardy is like, how how are you
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: okay with this? Okay? So I have another video from
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: a channel called wait where is It? Teres, who is
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: also feminist, and she made a video called Louise Louis
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Thereaux exposed the man favor it abuse tactic, and we're
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: gonna look at some of that. So what is the
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: abuse tactic? Let me show you all her setup. I
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: don't want to play the whole it's like a half
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: an hour. We don't need to do that. But she
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: this is the the the YouTuber in question, Teres. Now
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Richard Berre is going to be giving us terse videos
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: to reply to, I think, and she's gonna explain what
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: the abuse tactic is.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 7: Jimmy Savile, his mother steps in and a key.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Wait, let me go back a little bit more. I'm sorry,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, where's the I'm sorry, I gotta find
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: the time code? Two fourteen is what they said, So
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: maybe it's like right here.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 7: He turns away from Lewis and the documentary crew entirely
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 7: and starts speaking directly into his live stream camera.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: This is I believe at all.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 7: What you just want is a technique, a technique that's
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 7: been studied since nineteen ninety seven. It has a clinical name,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 7: and once I show it to you, you're gonna okay, wait, wait,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 7: let my dear.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: She's gonna say it. She's gonna tell you she's setting
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: it up. That was her setting up.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: And roll up. There's no technique if it's an ongoing
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: st Okay, fair enough.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: No, No, she's gonna she's setting it up.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 7: Okay, your creator and every podcast bro who gets challenged.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, Now, let me just point out she's always she's
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: setting it up, and she's saying, this is a technique.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: She's gonna tell us what it is that is only
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: used by the enemy. This is what the enemy uses
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: podcast bros Manisphere. Right, So notice she uses the term
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: podcast bro, which could mean anything, but she's basically saying,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Joe Rogan types, I'm wanna show you all how big
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: the umbrella of the Manisphere gets with this woman. That's
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: why I thought this video is very fascinating.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 7: We're confronted because they all do the same thing. It's
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 7: not a communication style. It's an abuse tactic, and it
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 7: is very common among Manisphere creators and misogynists generally because
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 7: at their core, men in the Manisphere are fundamentally abusive
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 7: men and Lewis the Row and his crew caught it
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 7: on camera from two angles simultaneously. Before we get started,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 7: you know what to do, love or hate, like and
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 7: share because the algorithm does not care. Let me tell
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 7: you exactly what happened in that room. The clinical term
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 7: for what HS did in that clip is DARVO. Some
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 7: of you may have heard of this. It stands for
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 7: deny attack, reverse victim and offender them.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, wait a second, so she's basically mischaracterizing what she
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: he did. Okay, the hell you know? Do you even
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: understand what this term means? Lady? Okay, keep going, because
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna we're gonna walk I'm pretty sure we're gonna
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: walk through this and it's gonna be absolute nonsense.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're ready, ready to learn what DARVO is. You
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: guys ever heard of darvo? We've talked about this channel
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: a lot, but yeah, let's let's find out.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 7: Except was coined by Jennifer Fred, professor of psychology at
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 7: the University of Oregon and reviews.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: What do we have to go through? Okay, fun, let's
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: keep do we have to go through the etymology, the
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: history of the time.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe she's going to distort a little bit. Let's
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: find out if she knows what it actually means.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 7: Paper entitled Violations of Power, Adaptive Blindness and Betrayal Trauma
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 7: Theory published in the Journal of Feminism and Psychology.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Fred So Darvo came out of feminism as a concept.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: Well, of course.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 7: Framework, while studying how sexual offenders respond when they're confronted
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 7: with accusations. She kept seeing how sexual offenders responded when
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 7: they're held accountable, and that they all did the same thing.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 7: They all responded in the same way, and she called
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 7: it Darvo.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: You know where I first heard the term was Tara,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: doctor Tara, way back when.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tara, Paul Latier. She's the woman who coined hunting badgers,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: isn't she?
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, she is. Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: All right, let's keep going.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 7: Or is held accountable for their harmful behavior. They followed
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 7: this predictable sequence. First they deny the accusation, then they
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 7: attack the person raising the issue, and then finally they
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 7: reverse the narrative entirely, presenting themselves as the victim and
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 7: the accuser as the offender. That's the sequence every time.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 7: Now the offender doesn't always deny what they did by
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 7: saying oh no, no, that didn't.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, but wait wait wait wait wait wait, that is
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: also what someone would do if they're innocent, lady, and
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: if they wanted to say, no, you are falsely accusing me.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's almost like Darvo is kind of a nonsense
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: thing to say, anyway, because if I was truly innocent
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: of something and I said no, you're accusing me falsey
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: of something, and now I'm I am a victim of it?
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Like what did Johnny Depp do when yeah, ever hurt?
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: Like exactly right, counter sue, is that.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Is that darvo any i? Probably in her terms, yes, okay,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: let's keep going, all right, they do.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 7: It by just making their feelings about being accused bigger
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 7: than the fact of what they're actually being accused of.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: Or that's when we that's when it goes to evidence, right, evidence,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: that's when evidence becomes critical did the accusation actually happen? Like, honestly,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: what there's such a freaking flaw in this thinking. Literally,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: what she's saying is women should be able to accuse,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: and the only response to for men is to say
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: yes or or do you just to submit to whatever
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: they've been accused of. Are you are you moving forward?
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: For some reason, I thought, because she kind of like
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: goes into the darble thing for a while, I thought
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: I would jump to her first. Do you want to
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: hear more of this? Or do you want me to jump?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: Let's see if she gets any further away from what
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: I'm hearing right now?
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 7: All right, change the subject, which is what HS did.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 7: Then they attack the person who is confronting them, their credibility,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 7: their motives, their character, and then they reverse their role. No,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 7: that's the one's victimized.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait when did when did HMS Tiki
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: Talkie even say that he was a victim?
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: He didn't.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: The Okay, lady, what you're doing is you're taking HMS
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: Tiki Talkie proving theiro'se duplicity, and you are looking at
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: that and saying, oh my god, he proved throws duplicity.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: But then that would make him the victim. Therefore Tiki
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: Talkie has darvoed me into thinking he was the victim. No, no,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: you buffoon. You looked at the evidence and concluded that
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: because the evidence told you that's what happened. Did you
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: see what she just did? Okay, It's like she goes
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: into a room I don't know, and the evidence points
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: to something has happened. All right, She looks at the
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: evidence that of her own.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Like what.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: Tiki Talkie showed the evidence that he demonstrated what Dureau
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: was doing. She looks at the evidence and says, oh,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Thereaux is a lying scumbag. Well, that must be because
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: Tiki Talking darvoted me into thinking that Deureau is a
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: lying scumbag. Do you have any control over your brain, lady?
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: Is your brain just rattling in your head occasionally leaks
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: out onto your pillow and you have to put it
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: back in in a syringe? Do you have any relationship
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: to your brain? Does any of the people watching this
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: woman have a relationship to their brains? Okay, all right.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 7: Suddenly the person who asked the very reasonable question, Oh no,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 7: they're the aggressor, fraid, didn't develop the question why and.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Don't you admit you're guilty of rape or something? Because
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: remember it was a feminist Darvo was created by a
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: feminist psychologists that was basically involved with the criminology of
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: like male abusers, and so when men would deny that
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: they did anything, she would be like, that's starvo, which
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: means you're you just haven't admitted to the truth yet,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: So let's let's.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 7: Keep going, all right, all right personalities. She developed it
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 7: to describe how predators avoid accountability. Remember that research over
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 7: the last decade has shown just how effective this tactic
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 7: can be. In a twenty seventeen study by Harci Zubrigan
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 7: and Freid, researchers found that perpetrators frequently used DARVO when
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 7: confronted about their harmful behavior. Women are disproportionately exposed to
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 7: this abuse technique, and exposure to it, well, they're not
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 7: psychological effect, the more.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: So women are uniquely victims of darvo.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: For someone, we women are uniquely victims of everything. Yes, yes,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: like that that's their conclusion to everything. Like, is there
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: is there any situation where men are uniquely victims of
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: something anything? This woman would say no, unless it was
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: something really obvious like prostate cancer, and even then she
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: probably hesitate, Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 7: Or often someone encountered darvo, the more likely they were
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 7: to begin blaming themselves for what happened to them. During
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 7: the interaction, the focus shifts away from the wrongdoing and
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 7: towards the feelings of the perpetrator. A later study by
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 7: Harson and Fried in twenty twenty examined what happens when.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: Out let me just she just explod. Okay, let me
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: just to where she Basically she's gonna give a couple
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: of examples of darvoing in the manisphere and various let's
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: say related well, the manisphere, but her definition of the manisphere,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: which I think is the feminist definition if you were
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: to ask him, who counts, and it's gonna be a
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: lot bigger than just the guys that were in that
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: thorough video. So first she's gonna I think she's gonna
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: go after Hs's mom in this looks like.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 8: Obviously you got a couple of criminal cases, right, Oh,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 8: look this is the twapshit saws Hamber.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: Obviously this is the stuff that pitces me off.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 7: So Lewis Tharrow is chatting with HS, and he does
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 7: what journalists do. He raises the criminal record. You know,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 7: how do you feel about the fact that you have
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 7: charges pending? Does that affect your behavior? Blah blah blah.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 7: HS crashed a car in Surrey in March of twenty
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 7: twenty four and then fled police for nearly a year
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 7: before he was finally arrested in October twenty twenty five
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 7: after this interview with Throw for the documentary. He was
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 7: charged with failing to stop after an accident, driving while
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 7: using a cell phone, and driving without insurance. Those are facts,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 7: documented adjudicated facts. There was a warrant out for his arrest.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 7: He was on the run from the cops at the
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 7: time of this interview. This is verifiable information now, but not.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: Relevant to the inside the Manisphere thing. It was Throw
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: was trying to figure out a way to attack Hs's character.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm not I'm saying I'm not
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: saying I agree with what he did. But you know,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: he's like twenty three, Like I don't know, Like doesn't
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: seem like a weird thing for a young guy to
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: get into.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: I'm curious, Yeah, I go ahead. I'm curious if he
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: spent any time in jail.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: He did.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: He did after I think he was he was on
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: probation or something or but yes, he did. He did
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: fail his acute. He did face justice. At least it
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: was it was uh after the documentary was released or
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: what you know, like somebody between the time that was
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: recorded and it came out that happened.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: So he received a one year suspended prison sentence instead. Okay,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: so this is he released. He received a one year
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: suspended prison sentence, which means at most there was property damage.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a non issue and it is poisoning
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: the well, especially when we're talking about the manisphere. So
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: what are the values of the manisphere? What are they?
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: What do they want to say? So what is he
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: supposed to say to that? Yeah, I got I got
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: into this altercation.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know, bro, I was just trying. I mean,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: I think that HS knew. Like I'm not saying the
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: kid's a genius, but I think he knew what the
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: row was doing. He was looking for something to tarnish
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: his character. It was like, oh, don't you have this.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: It was like with the other guys. He was like,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: aren't you like in an open relationship? And they would
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: bring us girlfriend and me like, do you know this
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: guy's fucking other women? Like that's just his technique of
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: how do I make this guy look bad? And A
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: just was like, No, that's that's twat shit. As he
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: said it, that's twat shit.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: He just for eluding. So he just got sentenced for
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: eluding the police. All right, well, apparently he has served
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: his time according to the British justice system. And what
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: are we supposed to make What relevance does this have
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: at this point? Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Sounds like Darvo Allison Jess does.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 7: He doesn't calmly say yes, that happened, here's my side
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 7: of the story. Or he doesn't say, you know, I
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 7: prefer not to talk about that. He doesn't engage with
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 7: the question at all.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: What he does because sometimes you don't. What is the
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: first word in Darvo, Lady, it's deny? Right now we
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: are off script. You are now giving me evidence that
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: you have no idea what you're talking about. Did he
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: deny it? No, he didn't deny it. What did he do?
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: He said, you are doing this because you want to
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: poison the well. You don't want to talk about issues,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: You don't want to talk about what I do. You
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: just want to paint me in a certain way. Is
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: he wrong? Okay, let's keep going. But right here, the
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: first word is deny, and what is the first thing
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: he does. He doesn't do denying.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 7: Emotionally. The temperature in the room shifts suddenly, the conversation
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 7: is no longer right, did you have a thermometer.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: In the room, the temperature of the room.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: It's the it's the feminist it's the feminist logic. It's
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: her telepathy. She's reading the minds of these people.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 7: It's about how Harrison Sullivan feels about being asked no.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: No, it's not about that. It's about what Thau is
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: doing by bringing it up.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: It is a traffic violation. Yeah, sure he shouldn't have
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: leaded the police, but he got a year of probation,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: which means the UK government doesn't give Hi much as
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: much of a fuck about this. So what relevance does
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: it have to any of this aside from throwing it
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: out there to poison the well he's saying, this is
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: why you're saying bringing this up. That's nothing to do
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: with Darvaux. She doesn't understand the term. And let me
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: guess this is like a couple hundred thousand women who
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: are also bubble headed along to this. Oh, yes, that's
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: what Darvaux is. That's what.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: It's gotten two hundred thousand views.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I figured as much. It's when a man
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: contradicts me, or a man says, this is why you're
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: saying that, no, Darvo is specific and we've already missed Deny.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: Let's see does does does he actually do anything in
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: the Darvaux list.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump ahead to his mom. No, he doesn't.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 7: Ideology the attack undermines itself. But only if you know
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 7: the story, only if you know all of the history
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 7: antisemitic pivot.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: Women can't think what a bunch of fucking bullshit. There
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: are specific things that have to happen for it to
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: be Darvo. You already showed that it isn't Deny. It
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: didn't happen, and according to Jonathan or Sir Brian, neither
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: did any other The AID didn't happen, the art didn't happen,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: the V didn't happen, the O didn't happen. What part
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: of Darvo was in that? And now you're saying, oh, well,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: if you see the history of Darvo, what the history
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: of Darvo does not relate to the fact that it
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: didn't apply to what he did. And you only can
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: see this if you're educated. Educate yourself like.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 7: Yep, this is where it gets interesting. Sullivan's mother, Elaine,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 7: enters the conversation and she says something that sounds on
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 7: the surface like a reasonable critique. You're just here to
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 7: make money off of my son. If you don't agree
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 7: with what Harrison's doing, then why are you making money
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 7: off a bit on a program by publicizing it. You're
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 7: doing it because you think he's a controversial characterist. You're
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 7: making money off the back of it.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 8: And that's why, and that's all your programs are.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 7: Now, I want to be honest with you, the ethics
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 7: of documentary filmmaking. That's a real conversation. Filmmakers do profit
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 7: from their selves.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: Oh you want to I want to see how she
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: I want to see how she recovers from this.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, this is a thing that we should be
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: talking about because it's about kapaa wisdom.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, but now, just put something out here. I just
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: want to put on something out here. A specific thing
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: that his mother said is that he is calling Tiki
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: Talkie out for using controversy to get attention and clout
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: and money, which is exactly what throw is doing. And
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: now she has to contend with the bare truth of that, right,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: and that's that is not darva. That is a claim
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: of hypocrisy. So once again, this has nothing the fuck
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: to do with Darvau And of course she's up against
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: another woman, So how is she going to spin a
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: threat narrative around that that that's actually that's actually intrigues me.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder what her tactics will be here,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: because it's more difficult, you know, with with if HMS
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: Tiki Talkie. All she has to do is just smet
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: spread the smear of rape culture on him and then
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: he's done for. But what about his mother? What's she
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: gonna do? What's she gonna do to undermine what his
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: mother said?
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 7: Let's hear all right, questioning that power dynamic. I'm not
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 7: going to dismiss that whole sale. But here's where you
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 7: have to think critically. The premise of Elaine's accusation requires
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 7: you to believe that Lewis Thureaux and Harrison Sullivan are
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 7: on equal footing, that they're both making money off of
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 7: each other in a symmetrical way.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no, they are not
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: both making money off of each other in a symmetrical way.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: The Row has an entire institution behind him. Tiki Talkie
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: just has his freakin' live.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: Stream, throws on Netflix, it's not.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is it doesn't matter because the
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: act is that the controversy. Somebody is profiting off of
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: a controversy, which is exactly what Theireau is doing. So
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: now you are moving, you are moving this into another
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: frame because you feel like you're gonna win in that frame.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: that's not gonna happen for you. Of course it's gonna
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: happen for the idiot who watch you. But let's see.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: Let's see now that she's moved this into another frame
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: of asymmetry, let's see what she has to say, all right,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: not it's like.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 7: Comparing apples and cruise missiles. Louis Threau is a salaried
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 7: documentary filmmaker working for the BBC and Netflix. I mean,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 7: let's be real. Unless you're Michael Moore or maybe Ken Burns,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 7: there's not a lot of money in being a documentarian.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 7: There's not a lot.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: What what.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: Threau, who works for Netflix in the BBC is actually
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: in the in the oppressed position sal like he's not salaried.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: I mean maybe I don't know how it works, but
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: what's the salary though? Like just because you call it
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: a salary doesn't mean it's not like a million dollars
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: a week or something like, what's the salary? Dude? Are
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: you kidding me? That's that's a that's a that's an
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: insane flame right there. Anyway, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. Yeah,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: I working for the BBC means he gets fifty percent
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: of my salar. Yeah, you get taxpayer dollars with that.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 7: So anyway, what he produces will be edited, fact checked,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 7: reviewed and released months later like a long And.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: Why is there a problem? Why is the problem with
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: Tiki Talkie putting it up on a stream?
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah right, okay, is simultaneously live streaming this exact confrontation
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 7: to his subscribers in real time and directly monetized. He
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 7: is the one making money off of Lewis, not the
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 7: other way around. She's framing a BB's for the love
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 7: of god, it's.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: Not about the money, it's about using the controversy. Well,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: first of all, he is using the controversy to get money,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: even if it's salaried, because he's doing work for the
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: the freaking establishment. Mm hmmm.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: So all right, let's go to another let her finish
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: this oh I already went back. I'm sorry.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 7: It's like right here, somewhere he has with his subscribers,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 7: he is modeling for thousands, maybe millions of young men,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 7: exactly how to deflect accountability, deny the facts.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, go back, go back,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: because this is I need to go through this.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 7: Okay, oh by the Jews or savele that.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: Line can keep going back, keep going back.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: Right right here?
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 7: So yeah, back to what even before she finishes her sentence.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: But the most no, I need to hear the whole thing,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: the whole thing that she's the whole construction of how
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: she is making it. So, because the thing is that
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: we need to go back to where this started. This
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: started with Tiki Talkie's mom, right if you noticed, now
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: we are moving. First of all, she completely deflects the
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: actual original context, which was Tiki Talkie's mom calling out Threau. Yeah,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: and then she moves into.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: Why Thereau and Tiki Taki are not the same.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: No, she moves it into this asymmetry framework. And then
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: she's trying to say that Thereau is making less money
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: than Tiki Talkie. Now see how we've just moved layers
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: and layers away from the actual event. So let's hear
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: the next layer after the.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 7: From their subjects. There is a legitimate intellectual tradition of
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 7: questioning that power dynamic. I'm not going to dismiss that
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 7: whole sale, but here's where you have to think critically.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 7: The premise of Elaine's accusation requires you to believe you
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 7: are dismissing him and Harris and Sullivan.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: You are dismissing it. You're dismissing Yeah, okay. It requires
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: you to believe. No, it doesn't require that. It requires
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: you to believe that their motives are similar. We don't
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: have to look at who is making more money. We're
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: just looking at who is which of the two is
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: getting paid to monetize controversy, And the answer is both
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: both of them. So she's introducing this new variable to
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: try to explain how these two people are different. And
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: we are far from hms's tiki Talki's mom at this point.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: So keep going with this jump on.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 7: Equal footing that they're both making money off of each
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 7: other in a symmetrical way. They're not. It's like comparing
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 7: apples and cruise missiles. Lewis Threw is a salaried documentary.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: Apples are something that are sold by probably in some
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: cases small business owners. Cruise missiles are made by the establishment.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: Like thereaw's documentary.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 7: Okay, keep going for the BBC and Netflix. I mean,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 7: let's be real. Unless you're Michael Moore or maybe Ken Burns,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 7: there's not a lot of money in being a documentarian.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, Louis Borrow. You didn't even look
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: this up, did you? Lowiss throw exact salary is not
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: publicly confirmed, but recent reporting puts his company's earning at
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: about two point nine million for the year pounds. Yeah,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: will other summaries estimate his annual income around zero point
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: four million. Well, if his annual income is estimated at
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: four point four million, then he had a really banner
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: year this year, I guess, and his net worth around
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: three million to six million. That's pounds okay, so that's
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: his company earnings. M he's making a fair he's banking
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: off of his shit slinging, all right, let's or at
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: least his company is. We don't know what kind of
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: salary he draws from his company.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, truth, trust me.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 7: What he produces will be edited, fact checked, reviewed and
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 7: released months later.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: Like a law doesn't need to be fact checked. It
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: doesn't need to be fact checked.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: It won't be fact checked. You kidding me. It already
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: released it, it's already full of lies. It's not gonna
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: be fact checked. It was edited for sure.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: Essentially where we got we went. We had his mother
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: call it out and say, Thireau is using controversy to
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: make money, which he's doing, and that's what his company
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: is doing. And his company made two point nine million
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: at least in one year. Well according to my sources,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: and HMS Tiki Talkie is also using controversy to make
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: money and get clout. So that's the equivalence, right, And
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: what she was doing was she was pointing out Theireau's
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: self righteousness about the whole situation. Now, what this woman
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: has done is she's moved it into this asymmetry framing.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: She has pre excluded the analysis that a documentarian has
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: power over what he is the subject of his documentary,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: which is true. There's a whole discussion about that because
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: he is the one who controls the editing process, except
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: in this instance. Now, the reason why HMS Tiki Talkie
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: had the opportunity to clap back was because he was
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: streaming and he had a whole bunch of people showing
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: what Tureau then edited to be deceitful. Right, but she's
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: not any of this. We're going to go for the
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: asymmetry in the income, which doesn't look like it's that
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: substantial according to what I've found. And now we're going
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: to the asymmetry in the truth or something.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: This is her.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, I thought you were letting me.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: No, no, go ahead, no go ahead, okay.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 7: Pasle live streaming this exact confrontation to his subscribers in
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 7: real time and directly monetized. He's the one making money
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 7: off of lewis not the other.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: What? Okay? So he's streaming it directly because he's showing
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: what's actually happening in real time unedited. Yeah, that's it.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's making money off of it, but the point
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: is that he's showing it in real time, unedited, and
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: Theireau is going to make money off of the edited
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: version in which he takes his documentary subject and paints
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: them in the worst light possible, which is already proven.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 7: Hey, continue, all right, BBC filmmaker as an exploiter while
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 7: her son broadcasts the conversation live.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's not that. Oh this is Darva's Yeah,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: she's demonstrating Darvo. That is not what she did, madam.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: You are now saying Thireau is the victim of what
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: Theireau was doing. Thireau was the one who was using
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: moral condemnation to claim that Tiki Taki was some kind
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: of reprobate. His mother said, yeah, but you're doing the
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: same thing. Therefore, your self righteousness in this matter is misplaced.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: And now she's saying, oh, no, it was her. She
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: was the one who was self righteously pointing at the
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: Row and saying he was an exploiter. She never said that.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: She just pointed out he was doing the same thing.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: Do you see how this isn't she? Okay, all right,
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: you know what Darvau is, my dear, you're using it. Okay,
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: let's go all right.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: So, so I want to jump ahead to some other
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: examples she gives. So here's one of Andrew Tate. It's
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: a short one. We don't have to say much, but
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: I want you to see where what she's doing is.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: She grabs hs tiggy Taki, who is like a new
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: guy and was in the Manuspere documentary. Andrew Tate was
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: not in the Manuspeer documentary. There are a few clips,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: but he never spoke to th rou So.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 7: It would be an interesting documentary review and we could
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 7: all just move on with our lives. But he's not
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 7: an isolated case. Darvau is basically the operating system for
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 7: the entire Manisphere, and.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: For anybody here who wants to do honest journalism, you
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: need to ask themselves why there is.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 6: This witch hunt, Why the matrix is so desperate to
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 6: try and convince the world I'm a bad person.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: And put me in jail when I've clearly done nothing wrong.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: It's been three solid years. They can't even find enoughing
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: it does to take me to trial.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 7: Andrew Tait charged with human.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: That's not Darvo.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: Saying that there's no evidence. Is not Darvo is saying
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: that they've been trying to get a case and they
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: can't build one, so they're clearly going after an innocent man.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: Well what that you know what she's what Darvo means in.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: Her idiom, you know what it means himself.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, or someone made me feel bad about the
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: thing that I said, darvo identifying an emotion as a
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: set of criteria, because she's misapplying the criteria constantly while
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: being demonstrating that she is indeed darvoing yes, like, oh god, damn,
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: I need I'm gonna I'm gonna go hit my head
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: against the wall.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 7: What's his response, deny the charges? The matrix is after me,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 7: attack the institutions. Journalists are corrupt. Reverse, He's being I
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 7: don't he didn't his dream.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: He didn't.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: Well, he said, honest journalism. If you are doing honest journalism,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: you would like recognize that. I'm not like, there are
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: no uh, there's no case against me, something like that.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: She doesn't know what darvo means. How the hell do
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: you have a discussion with a person who does not
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: understand words?
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: What do you do with that?
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: She's like, everybody's starving. I can't believe I'm not darvling.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: Everybody else is darvling. You are making me a victim
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: of your darvling.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, all right, So that's Andrew Tate.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: Now this is not Look, this is not isolated. This
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: is I think this is pretty much the normal, like
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: feminist viewpoint on the manisphere and all. So what I
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: guess Darvo means, So where do we go from here? Like, Okay,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: Andrew Tate, it's kind of an extreme figure. He's very
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: well known. The media has basically made him into a
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: giant like icon. I mean this literally, he was built
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: by the media and their coverage of him. So who
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: else could we throw into the Darva nets here that if.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 7: You have family in a country that is at risk
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 7: for people being injured from war, you would get the
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 7: family out to Romania where you are there safe. Why
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 7: do you need to go there? Bro Anyway, the respectable
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 7: wing and I've talked about this before, the Scott Galloways,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 7: the James Sextons, Jordan Peterson's the respectable They still do
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 7: Scott Galloway.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: Scott Galloway, Yes, Scott Galloway's in here as doing Darvo.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: Not kidding, but I want to get to it. So
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: but let's let's keep going. This is what I'm saying,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: Like what these what these people think is the manisphere?
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: It includes people who were like not just blue pilled,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: but feminists. So anyway Galloway, Scott Galloway, male feminists, male feminists.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: But yes, he's in the manisphere.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, why can I make an observation here? Yeah, okay,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: I think the manisphere.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: Just means men, Yes, men talking about men, men.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: Talking about anything.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, sure, yeah yeah, gamers, gamer gates the manisphere.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: So yeah, everything, it's just men, guys, that's it. It's
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: just your existence. That's the problem.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: They have.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: You exist and they have and they took it personally.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 7: Okay, all right, quieter, But it's structurally identical.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: So that's my idea of the patriarchy, which is a
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: system of male dominance of society.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: But that's not my sense of it. Patriarchy.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 8: So well, in what senses are society male dominated? This
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 8: is a trope that people just accept Western society is
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 8: a male dominated patriarchy. It's like, no, it's not, that's
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 8: not true. This whole patriarchy thing. I think you have
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 8: no idea how pernicious and dangerous it is. Throughout history
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 8: have fundamentally cooperated to push back against the absolute catastrophe
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 8: of existence, a terrible death rate, the probability of chronic starvation,
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 8: early death disease, the difficulty of raising children with all
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 8: the death that was associated with that, and to look
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 8: backwards in time and say, well, basically what happened was
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 8: men took the apprehand and persecuted women in this tyrannical patriarchies.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 8: It's absolutely dreadful misreading of history. It's a terrible thing
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 8: to teach young women, and it's a horrible thing to
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 8: inflict upon men.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 7: Deny that patriarchy exists, that's okay.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 6: So if you.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: So, you can only agree with you, that's it. Anything
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: else is darva?
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, darvo as men disagreeing with women. But no, because
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: Scott Galloway is in there, and Scott Galloway would probably
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: disagree with Jordan Peterson's reading of the damage of the
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: concept of patriarchy as feminists to define it at least
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: But now, yet you've never even mentioned feminism. He's only
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: talking about patriarchy, which is an observation, not a group,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: and he's only criticizing that observation, and he is not
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: making well, he's saying it victimizes people. He's not saying
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: it victimizes himself. So essentially, darva is anything this woman
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: doesn't agree with and isn't feminist. I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna write, is this the is this the final bit.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: I want to show you the Scott Galloway bit, and
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: then that's it. I just want to show you how
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: how because there's a lot of feminist reacting to the
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: Manisphere stuff, and they're not talking about Darvo specifically, but
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: they are doing this thing where they're taking the Manisphere
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: documentary and using it as a tool to attack the
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: entirety of male discourse online. Whether it's the like the
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: Manisphere guys like Andrew Tate or Fresh and Fit or
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: the whatever podcast, whether it's MRA types like us, or
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: if it's politicians like Trump and Vance, or if it's
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: just podcast bros like Theo Vaughn and Joe Rogan. It
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter because to them, all of this is the
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: same problem. All of this has to be attacked, even
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: if it even if it composed of people who disagree
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: with each other on things, none of that matters because
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: in the eyes of these people, we're all in the
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: same We're all under the same umbrella, and I'm using
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: that drive. Even Scott Galloway is under that. But let's
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: finish to Jordan Peterson Park first.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 7: Real source of men suffering. Reverse men are the true
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 7: victims of modern society, not women, and anyone who.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: Questioned Peterson didn't say that. He just said that it's
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: bad for men and women.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 7: But okay, that framing is attacking vulnerable men. You don't
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 7: care that men are committing suicide? See what I'm talking about?
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, lady, So you don't recognize any possibility that
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: feminism could harm men none whatsoever or women? Right you?
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: Basically you've basically said that there is a force in
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: our society that is a billion to trillion dollar institutional
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: force that we cannot question, and if we do, we're
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: engaging in abuse. I don't know what to say to this.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: How does how do people like this get so much
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: fucking attention?
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: I don't see what women want to hear.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: Of. Okay, well, I don't know why women want to
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: hear this.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they like knowing that they're vulnerable.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 7: Describes Scott Galloway as quote, three manispheres in a liberal
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 7: trench code, like stacked on top of each other. Like
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 7: that's a really good description of him, by the way, Bravo.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: So they're okay, So somebody on substaxas Scott Galloway is
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: three manispheres wearing a liberal trench coat. So that means
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: that Scott Galloway, despite perhaps even having good intentions and
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: trying to make, you know, caring about men and his
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: liberalism fit together, is being attacked anyway. I'm because apparently
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: being pro male is not liberal. It's just not.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really giving a good good inverse relate like
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: they're in the negative space. They're really explaining who they are.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: Everybody who has any concern for men, who thinks of
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: men as being a legitimate category of being is part
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: of the manosphere, even with like a ton, like a
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: ton of feminist caveats. If you even think that men
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: should be appealed to at all, like Scott Galloway, you
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: are part of the manosphere, and you are to prevent
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: every time you open your mouth you're abusing a woman
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: with darvo.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Scott to be If I'm being
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: charitable to Scott Galloway, cause I try to be charitable
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: to people, I think that what he's he's basically seeing
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: that if we don't do something about men, we're gonna
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: lose everything. Like he recognizes that shit is getting worse,
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: and so he's like, well, I don't want to abandon
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: like what I believe in terms of my you know,
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: beliefs and policy and all this other shit. But we
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: have to do something for men. We have to offer
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: them something because we're gonna lose them again. Like he
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: was the guy who was like, we're gonna lose men
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: forever if we don't. So it's partly him being very
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: like pragmatic right for the moment. Part But let's take
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: a listen to.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 7: Him, and he calls out this clip from his interview
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 7: with Liz Plank for her podcast Boy Problems.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 6: Twenty five twenty five hundred women a year are murdered
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 6: by men, most of them men.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: They know that is unacceptable.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 6: Men have a responsibility because of a physical size, always
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 6: to fault to protection.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: It is a real issue and until zero it needs focus.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 6: Having said that forty thousand men will kill themselves this year,
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 6: so the guy you're on a date with is sixteen
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 6: times more likely to go home and hurt himself than
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 6: hurt you. We lose approximately ten thousand men and ten
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 6: thousand women a year to driving fatalities, meaning the drive
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 6: over to the date is four times more dangerous. You
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 6: are more likely to drown or choke and die on
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 6: that date than have your partner potential partner hurt you. So,
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 6: while I understand it's an issue, if you go on TikTok,
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 6: you get the sense that you are literally gambling with
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 6: your life if you go on a date.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: No puts, he puts that. She added that where it
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: says you are, as a woman, gambling with your life.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: So again, look, I know I don't like Scott Galloway
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: because he does exactly what the male feminist thing, where
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: he opens up with the land acknowledgement. You know, women,
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: they have it really tough. I acknowledge all of it,
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: and until we get to the point where there are
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: zero murders of women, it'll always be an issue. Yeah,
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: that'll never happen because we live on earth, not heaven.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: But then he goes okay, having said that, here are
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: some problems that men have, and yeah, it's probably not
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: as high as it needs to be, and it doesn't.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: He doesn't ask the appropriate question. He doesn't ask, well,
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: how often do women murder men? How open to women
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: rape men? How often do women assault men? He doesn't
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: even ask those questions, right, But all he's doing is saying, well,
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: men have problems as well, and he's a manisphere automatically okay,
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: So and that's okay, but let's finish this.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 6: They are they are pathologized, They are told they are predators.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 7: Same D, same A, same rb O, clavicular one. It's
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 7: not darvo.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 6: That was not.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: Sorry. Did I blow everyone's earbrows out? Earball?
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: That's sorry? And have I had like a I think
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: I have something that prevents it from going too loud
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: so it doesn't hurt anybody. So even if you scream,
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: I have like a hut.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: That is not darvo. Literally, what she's saying is men
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 2: having any opinion on anything is automatically darvo. If a
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: woman defends a man, it's darvo. Because she didn't like
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 2: Tiki Talkie's mother. I just don't understand this. Yeah, this
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: is like Jonathan just said, just because she hates men.
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like she wants to justify her saying.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: He's just saying, hey, this affects men and it's not
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: statistically reasonable, and she's saying that's diarvo. This woman, if
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 2: a man said anything in his defense, she would consider
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 2: it abusive herself. What seventy eighty thousand subscribers this woman.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 2: This video two hundred thousand views. How is it possible
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 2: that something so psychotically abusive and dehumanizing is so beloved
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: by whoever is watching this. This is dehumanizing, This is psychotic.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: What she's saying men have no right to have an
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: opinion on themselves, is what she's saying. M H, I
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: don't know. I wish I could project this into people's heads.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 2: How wrong this is?
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: All right? So I think now the last thing is
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: we don't even really have to do it. She mentions
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: clivicular but doesn't have like a clip or anything, so
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play that part. But I think this
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: is this is Louis throw on Chris Williamson's podcast. Now.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: Chris Williamson also not a big fan because he's basically
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: like on the like I don't like the Manisphere train,
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: so he's not really helpful. But again, like the the
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: thing about these guys like Scott Galloway and Chris Williamson,
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: they think that they can like stay in the good
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: graces of these women if they just attack the Manisphere
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: or at least like dismissed them or try to like
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: you know, or whatever. But it won't save you because
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: the problem is that you were born a man, and
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: and if you you say anything or you advocate for
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: men in any capacity, even if it's like with all
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: of the caveats of like, well, look if you if
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: you cry some more and vote Democrat and eat more, soy,
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: then I'll look out for your suicide. No, it doesn't matter.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: These women will be like, no, no, let him die alone,
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: and like, you know, make sure that no, just don't
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: leave a mess, make it fast. But you can't use
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: guns because we're banning those. So but anyway, statements.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 7: That indicate to me that he clearly understands the Manisphere
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 7: grift and the psychology behind it. All of this, by
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 7: the way, I covered my inside.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: They're making money, yes, uh, they're making money, but live streaming.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: What's the grift that we actually recognize that half the
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: human race might have things happen to them, and that
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 2: the other half of the human race might have in
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: an influence on those things. That's the grift? Is it?
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay?
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 7: The misogyny of the Man of sphere almost a year ago.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 7: I'll link you to the playlist of this This is misogyny.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 2: Did you notice this? This is misogyny, men having opinions
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 2: on their experience of things. Right, someone pointing out that
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: Thireau is actually engaging in farming controversy, and that's the
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 2: very thing he's accusing. HMS Tikie talking a woman pointing
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: that out. All of this is misogyny. They don't want
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 2: men to exist. They just don't want you to exist.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: They want you to cease to exist. That's what I
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: see here. There is no space. She has claimed, all
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: the space, she has claimed, all of the positions on
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: the board, they are all hers. And you may stand nowhere.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: You get no, you get no part of the earth. Guys,
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: you have no place, no place to think about and
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: nope and certainly no place to talk, no place to
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: say a thing about who you think you are and
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: what you've experienced like this is this is Oh God,
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I don't know what to say, Like I don't understand.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: I am so sorry that so many women like this shit,
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: Like I don't even know what to say. I am
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: fucking sorry. Guys, Yeah, you don't have to be sorry.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: You're not one of them.
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 7: This clip, you can clearly see that Lewis Threw understands
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 7: what's going.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 4: On that really what singles them out and defines them
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 4: as extreme menasphere is the willingness to embrace a kind
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 4: of paranoid, conspiratorial mindset, to employ rageous I would say,
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 4: sy nicole clickbait based content creation and then all.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: Of it with a view to paramoid mindset, paranoid mindset,
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: patriarchy using controversy to get money. Two point nine million
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 2: his company made right in a year. What do you
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 2: think he's making it off of.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: And in particular in this documentary, it's exactly like a
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: chamez tikie talkie's mom said. He's making money off of controversy.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 2: And he's also making money off of taking a very
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: marginalized opinion which has its own problems, which we have
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 2: gone through at length me and Brian. He is making
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: money off of a marginalized community that isn't allowed to
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: have an existence in the mainstream. And you went, went,
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 2: I I will believe that men are allowed a voice
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 2: when they have a party, when they have a trillion
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: dollar industry advocating for their issues. Right, that's when I
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: believe they have a voice, specifically their needs, not what
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: they're expected to do. Okay, So he is actually he
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 2: is saying that they're engaged in a grift. He might
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 2: be right, may maybe they are engaged in a grift.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 2: Guess who else is engaged in a grift? And that
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: was her point.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and like, why does their grift exist? How
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: is it possible? Even if if we accept that the
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: manisphere as he defines it, is grifting, why does the
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: market exist? Throau, You're saying there's a market that they're
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: digging advantage of. Where did the market come from? Was
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: it always there? Where did it come from?
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Why is the marketplace?
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 4: Is a mess of educational value in being beaten up
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 4: by your dad is kind of extraordinary, and probably some
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 4: kind of compensation by him.
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: Got this line in the dark. You say, for what? Huh?
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, what what the hell would you turn that into compensation?
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: He's basically saying, Andrew Tate is an abused boy. Yeah, okay,
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 2: Now he's saying, oh, that's compensation. Andrew Tate is an
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 2: abused boy. So you're saying that this abused boy has
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 2: constructed this empire's compensation for being abused. Well, that actually
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 2: sort of describes most most uh like technocrats. It probably
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: also describes you throw honestly, like everybody's acting out some
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 2: pain from their childhood.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 1: Was Jimmy Savile?
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, many people are acting out the pain that they
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 2: got from Jimmy Savile. This guy's good friend. Like, I
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 2: just I don't I don't understand where he's going with. Oh,
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 2: this isn't abused child, He's acting out his pain. That
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: that makes him horrible and we should throw stones at him.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 2: What what is the point of saying that? Like, how
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 2: does that discredit Andrew Tate?
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 2: Abused child makes you know, makes himself into a multi millionaire,
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: while that really discredits him? Why would that discredit him? Like,
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, I could almost be like, Okay, you know
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: THEO says, well, he's a sex he's an alleged sex trafficker.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: That discredits him. Right that that that at least is
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: in the realm of reasonable. You see what I'm saying, Brian,
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 2: that's reasonable and and and and supportable and maybe something
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 2: you could justify someone saying, oh, Andrew Tate's an alleged
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 2: sex trafficker. That discredits him. No, there goes with Andrew
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 2: Tate was an abused boy. That discredits him? Really astounding,
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 2: don't you think astounding that that that this woman and
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 2: Threau is landing on that to discredit him.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: Huh that really says a lot, doesn't it interesting? Or,
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: as Spock would say, fascinating. Well, I don't think. I mean, like,
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: we could listen to the rest of this bit, but
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: we don't. We can stop that. Those are the I
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: wanted to show specifically what, Yeah, we can stop, we
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: can we can stop here. It's fine, like that's enough,
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: We've done enough damage to our souls. But but you
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: guys get where I'm coming from. See, so Teres is No,
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: She's not unique. This is the way that these people operate.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: They take the extremes, which usually are not as extreme
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: as they want you to think they are, and then
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: they link them to moderates and even people that would
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 1: probably be me more of an obstacle to men's issues,
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: and they just say they're all just as bad as
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: each other. What does that tell you? None of them
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 1: are gonna be good enough because what they want is
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: something that's complete hegemony of their worldview, unquestioningly, and men
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: have to either get on board or die quietly, and
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: you know they don't want to hear about it. On
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: the upside, the man of sphere or whatever you want
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 1: to call it is only getting stronger and men just
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: don't give a shit. And I mean like that that
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 1: number is growing, let's just say. And that's why people
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: like Scott Galloway are panicking because he sees men checking
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: out and the numbers are bearing out. Clavicular who just
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: got a brief mention. He's exposed women of his age
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  Speaker 1: group as well as being shallow and untrustworthy and unscrupulous,
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  Speaker 1: and even he is discussed by that. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the truth comes out, is all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: It does. It does, and I wanted to I actually
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  Speaker 2: wanted to read something that I did. I created. I've
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  Speaker 2: been looking into feminist frameworks and the actual evolved relationship
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  Speaker 2: between men and women, and and honestly, the more I
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  Speaker 2: get into what romance is, the more interesting the whole
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: thing becomes. And again, I know that a lot of
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: people have the side eye romance as a genre. But
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: the more I've been investigating what actually sells, not what
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  Speaker 2: the publishers are trying to voist on women, it's become
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  Speaker 2: it's been a bit of a white pill. I keep
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: coming back to this because it's for me it's a
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  Speaker 2: white pill. So based on like evolution, the things that
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  Speaker 2: women have evolved to find important stable pair bond with
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  Speaker 2: a high investment mail. That doesn't mean a high status male.
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  Speaker 2: It means a male who's highly invested paternal investment in offspring,
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  Speaker 2: family unit security, offspring survival, and the bonding event itself,
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  Speaker 2: the neurochemical lock that reorganizes a specific male around her
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  Speaker 2: and her children's needs. Now this isn't just from humans,
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  Speaker 2: this is from all pair bonding mammals. They all have
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  Speaker 2: the same endocrine architecture and they all have that same
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  Speaker 2: reorganization on like a sub cortical level. Have you ever
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  Speaker 2: seen you've you've seen those those videos of fathers like
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  Speaker 2: catching things like fast object moving towards child videos, and
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  Speaker 2: you notice how fast they move mm hmm. That's because
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  Speaker 2: it's subcortical processing. Their endocrinology has rewired so that they
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  Speaker 2: are constantly monitoring threats to their children and their and
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  Speaker 2: their bond target their lives. And because they have that,
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  Speaker 2: it's not actually the reflexes are so fast, it's the
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  Speaker 2: monitoring is so constant. They're constantly monitoring the environment for threats,
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  Speaker 2: and it's this this is the This is the rearrangement
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  Speaker 2: of the architecture and feminism's measurable effects on each of
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  Speaker 2: these pair bond formation declining marriage rates have fallen consistently
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  Speaker 2: across every population where feminist frameworks have achieved cultural dominance.
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  Speaker 2: The framing of marriage is an institution of patriarchal control
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  Speaker 2: has made the commitment itself suspect pair bonding stability. Declining
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  Speaker 2: divorce rates rose sharply following no fault divorce legislation, which
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  Speaker 2: with a feminist policy priority. The framing of male bonding
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  Speaker 2: behavior is controlling gives men women a diagnostic framework for
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  Speaker 2: interpreting normal, vast suppress and output as abuse, which produces
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  Speaker 2: a continually renewable justification for leaving. So essentially, feminists are
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  Speaker 2: framing the natural effect of how men bond as abuse.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 2: And of course what they'd say is, oh, you're just
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 2: you think that men and that's all men are capable.
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 2: But it's like they're reinterpreting something that if you actually
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 2: look at the literature, women want. They want this. They
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  Speaker 2: want a man to act like a man when he's
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  Speaker 2: bonded to someone. Paternal investment, declining custody structures that systemically
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: separate fathers from children. Cultural messaging that frames mail provision
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  Speaker 2: is economic control. Cultural messaging that frames mail protectiveness is paternalism.
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  Speaker 2: All reduce the channels through which bonded males can deliver
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  Speaker 2: investment to offspring. Male who has been told his provision
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  Speaker 2: is dominance and his protectiveness is control, has been told
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  Speaker 2: his investment is unwelcome. And again, evolutionarily, what women want
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  Speaker 2: stable pair bond, high investment, mail, paternal investment in offspring security,
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  Speaker 2: offspring survival, and the bonding event itself, which we would
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  Speaker 2: call love, We don't need to call it the bonding event.
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  Speaker 2: Fertility declining below replacement in every feminist influence population, Women
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  Speaker 2: who delay pair bonding to pursue career priorities framed as
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  Speaker 2: empowerment in counter biological constraints that the framework promised were
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  Speaker 2: either negotiable or irrelevant. Offspring outcomes. Children in single parent
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 2: households show worse outcomes on nearly every measurable dimension educational attainment, income,
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: mental health, subsistance, abuse, incarceration rates. The feminist framework that
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  Speaker 2: framed the two parent unit as patriarchal and single motherhood
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  Speaker 2: as empowered independence produced a population scale experiment in removing
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  Speaker 2: paternal investment. The results they are in and they're bad
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 2: for children. So feminism's actual track record is degradation of
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  Speaker 2: every single thing women evolved to value. I want to
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  Speaker 2: repeat that there are things that we invent about ourselves
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  Speaker 2: as human beings, and then there are things that are
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  Speaker 2: based on what we owe, right, and what women are
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 2: is that they have been involved or made by God.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever you want to say is blessed by the spaghetti monster.
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  Speaker 2: They have evolved to want particular things, a stable pair
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  Speaker 2: bond with a man, right, and this society has destroyed that.
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 2: Now women apparently are on this kick of proving to
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  Speaker 2: themselves and everyone that they really don't want that. But
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 2: the truth is the endochronology does not lie, it cannot lie.
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  Speaker 2: So feminism's actual track record is dregradation of every single
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  Speaker 2: thing women evolved to value. Not mixed results, not trade offs,
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  Speaker 2: degradation across the board. Oh now, what happens when women
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 2: are trained to label everything they value as feminists. It
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  Speaker 2: makes the framework unfalsifiable from inside. If a woman values
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  Speaker 2: pair bonding, she's told that's feminist, she's choosing it freely.
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 2: If she values career over family, that's feminist too if
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 2: she values motherhood feminist independence feminists, the sword stops having
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 2: definitional content and becomes a loyalty marker. It doesn't describe
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 2: a position, it describes membership, but the actual policy and
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 2: cultural machinery operating under the feminist label is specifically degrading
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 2: the pair bonding parental, paternal investment, and family stability side.
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 2: The career independence side gets institutional support, legal protections, cultural validation,
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  Speaker 2: economic infrastructure. The pair bonding side gets institutional hostility. Marriage
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  Speaker 2: framed is oppression, mail investment framed is control. Maternal preference
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 2: for caregiving framed is false consciousness. The labeling so, the
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 2: labeling does something precise. It prevents women from noticing that
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  Speaker 2: the framework is selectively destroying the things they value most
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 2: while supporting the things that serve the framework's institutional interests.
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 2: Oh so, the reason why I got in on this
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 2: is because literally, I'm gonna say this very clearly. Women
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 2: are spending almost a trillion dollars a year to get
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 2: the text based simulacra of a paaramond, and feminists can't
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 2: stand it. They're trying to destroy the industry or colonize
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: it and try to make it into something that pushes
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 2: feminist beliefs. So anyway, that's what I wanted to say.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 2: I just had to I had to end on something
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 2: that at least gives me a little bit of hope. Yeah,
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 2: because that was so fucking awful. Yeah, I know, this
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: woman is awful. She is an awful human being. And
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 2: she doesn't know what darvo means. And I'm not sure
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: if she doesn't know no, or she's just using an
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 2: a way that's most useful to herself. Either way, don't
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 2: know what.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, and that's it. I mean like
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  Speaker 1: I've I did my part. I wanted to show you
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 1: all what was going on with that.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, your part has done well, Brian, Yeah, oh man.
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