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Mystery Beer, 2024 NFL Draft Recap, Grading the Vikings and the Bears Drafts | TSH Ep. 38 · The Skol Hop

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  All right, Hey Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode of the School
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  Hop. I'm glad you're here, and we've got some special stuff plan tonight.
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  Yeah, so we've got friend of the show for ust again here with
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  us today? Is this here? What? Fourth? Fifth time? Somewhere?
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  I think I think number four? Yeah, because I mean we could
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  go back and bore everybody by counting it. But you've been on a few
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  times. I don't know why you keep asking me on. Well, we
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  love having you on, but specifically you're on today because of the three of
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  us, you're the one that could be considered a draft expert, right,
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  I want to I want to college expert. I just know the college game
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  more. Maybe follow it. Maybe I'm doing you a disservice by saying the
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  word experts. I'm definitely no expert, but you definitely know college way more.
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  Famously, you hyped me up last year about the Jordan Addison pick because
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  I didn't know him at all, and you were like, oh, yeah,
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  that's a really good pick, and so yeah, so that's why you're
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  here today. Also, we like you and you're a friend and we know
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  you like beer, but you're also a Bears fan, so I guess we
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  can kind of talk about that and a Michigan fan, so you're much more
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  of a Michigan fan. I'm much more of a Michigan fan. So you
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  can talk to us about some round to get into that later in the show.
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  So all right, So before we get to anything else, I think
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  stuff, not just us together. But that'd be cute, though you know,
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  I'd be lying if I said I hadn't gone to Mexico just being another
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  guy before. But that's a story for another time and a few more beers.
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  But so thank you Big Top Ventures. But today we were switching it
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  up a little bit with our beer stuff. Obviously we're always in Iowa Only
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  Iowa Brewed Beer Only podcast, but usually we talk about it. We say
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  today's beer is such and such, we crack it open, we get our
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  first taste, and we throw that quick little impression on TikTok today. I've
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  seen some TikTok videos and I wanted to try something new, so I brought
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  the beer tonight. And I know what it is where it's from. But
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  if you're watching the video, you can tell I have wrapped our cans in
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  tinfoil. Pretty good job, if I do say so myself. I yeah,
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  So Forrest and Evan cannot tell what our beers are, and we're gonna
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  do a little bit of guessing game. I want you guys to open it
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  up. We're all gonna taste it and try it, and I want you
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  guys to try and see if you can figure out what this beer is.
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  So let's let's crack these open. Do we get any hints so I will
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  give some information. Okay, this is a brewery we have tried before on
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  the show, and I don't believe we have tried No, we absolutely haven't
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  tried this beer before, so it's not a bit. We've had no not
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  on the show. I don't believe I personally have ever had this beer before
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  at all, but we have had the brewery on the show. M okay,
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  getting some fruit fruit on the nose. Yeah, it's okay, almost
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  like a sour. Interesting, what do you think? Forrest is also the
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  beer expert over here. I mean it could be, it could be just
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  a flavored before we forget, we need to scull these beers. I already
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  broke the rule and drank skull hell all right, so you guys talk it
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  through. Talk it through. Definitely a sour. It's a sour yep oken,
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  which is kind of shocking because Austin is is I mean, he's opened
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  up his his window of beers, but he's typically not a sour. No
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  sours are not my go. This also doesn't look like a sour. I
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  mean, this looks like kind of like your golden ale, kind of like
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  a bud light or a okay, something in that category. When I poured
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  it, it did not look like a sour. Okay, it's too golden.
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  It is trying to I'm trying to pick up what flavor it's it's not
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  quite peach, it's maybe like apricot. Yeah, I could taste that interesting.
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  Okay, again, I know what it is. I brought it.
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  It almost seems like maybe some berry in there too. Do you taste some
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  berry? I do tay some berry, blueberry, BlackBerry? Okay? Any
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  indication sometimes you can tell when you drink a beverage if it's pretty boozy or
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  pretty light or in a good spot. Any indication on how I think this
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  one's lighter on the light? I was gonna say probably five five and a
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  half okay. Any thoughts on and I know this might be impossible on a
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  brewery. Can we ask more questions? I mean you can. I'm not
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  going to be too detailed about it because I kind of want you to say,
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  like if not the beer, I want you to say, like,
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  oh, it's this category for sure? You know what I mean, like
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  like it's a hazy I p A or you know, I want you to
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  say, like what I think it's from Big Grove? Okay, that's your
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  guess if it were from Big Grove. Do you have an idea of what
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  the beer would be or sour or seltzer or whatever it is, I'm thinking
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  I'm trying to wreck my my brain on the different sours that they make.
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  Okay, but I'm going with Big Grove on this one. Okay. I
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  don't know why, just just I mean I like I like it a lot,
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  and they pump out some really good beer. So okay, okay,
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  Forrest, you and I have visited this brewery before. Evan, you and
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  I have not visited this brewery before together. I don't know if you've ever
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  been. Maybe have you visited Big Grove? I have not not. We
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  haven't been to Big Grove together. Have you been to Big Grove at all?
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  I have not interested. Well, I'm not saying yes or no to
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  Big Grove. I'll be pretty noncommittal anything. I'm gonna stick with Big Grove.
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  Is the brewery over or under sixty miles away from our current location?
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  I honestly don't know. You should be able to over under I would say
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  under under what under sixty miles away from our current live Definitely Big Grove.
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  That's that would be my guess, But I don't I honestly I could be
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  wrong on that. I don't want to steer you too far away, but
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  that could give you a hint, that's over under ten. It's definitely over
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  ten over ten for sure. Yeah, I'm with Forest. I'm gonna go
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  with Big Grove. I will say Forrest, you and I have visited this
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  with our entire families not horribly long ago. Oh so this is Great Revivalist?
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  I mean maybe out of Clinton, Iowa then hm hmm. Interest So
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  that definitely would be under if it were a Great Revivalists, would that be
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  under? That would have to be the know, knowing that we visited a
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  brewery with our families. That's the only one that comes to mind, because
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  you're talking kids and everything. They are entire families. Yeah, well like
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  immediate famous. I don't know, Okay, Yeah, I'm trying to think
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  of because I'm not as familiar with Great Revivalist. We went there once and
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  now they're just finally starting to distribute their their stuff out to well, maybe
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  not to be caught on the actual location. Maybe focus again more on the
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  beer. So did you guys both say what you thought it was? I
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  said, fruited sour. Yeah, it's it's definitely a fruited set. Can
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  you can you figure out the fruit? It's a definitive fruit, you said,
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  apricot, I said, maybe some berry. Yeah, I'm now getting
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  a little more berry. Like you said, as it's as. It's also
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  not something crazy like as as it's warmed up a little bit. It's a
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  single fruit. It's a single fruit. It's not going to say anything like
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  ten styles of mixed berry or anything like that. It's going to be a
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  single fruit. I just went to the store tonight and got my wife a
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  sour that had like four things interesting. Okay, Now this one is pretty
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  straight to the point. Is it like a cherry Maybe? I don't get
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  cherry. Now. Cherry is a pretty for me. It's a pretty strong
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  flavor, Like I can pick cherry out from other things pretty quickly. This
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  one's a little harder to nail down. Is it good? Oh, I'm
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  enjoying it. Yeah, I'm surprised. I like it. I'm kind of
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  disappointed that I can't pick up the specific fruit. Well, I can confirm,
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  Great Revivalist. Okay, all right, so thank you Great Revivalists for
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  well, I mean, I purchased it, but thank you for brewing this
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  amazing delicious sour that I'm surprised that I like. Because it's a sour and
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  I'm not a sour guy. Have we named the specific fruit yet? It
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  may have been mentioned briefly quickly. I mean you said like a berry.
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  I want to go. I mean it could be like definitely like a BlackBerry.
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  BlackBerry. The fruit was very quickly named and very quickly just thrown off.
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  So is it more of a peach apricot? That seems to be a
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  little more stronger than a berry to me? So I think it's one of
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  those two. Okay, I'm going to go back to my original I asked
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  my nose at first was picking up more of a peachy apricot. Okay,
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  flavor? All right, Forrest and Evan, go ahead and unwrap your beers
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  because you're you're right there, And I didn't think about where we would put
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  the tinfoil the peach. Ah, So what the nose? People, I
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  will say, the nose is a better guide than your tongue A lot of
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  the time. You ever thought it just so because it smelled like a peach,
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  but it didn't taste like that normal peach flavor. Yep. So this
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  one, let me get the exact name before I read it off. It
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  is the great Revivalist brewing peach Wrangler, sour ale yippie ka mother forker is
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  what it says. That's awesome, that's very good. Yeah, I like
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  this one a lot. I'm surprised. I knew it wouldn't be bad,
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  but as we've said many times, I'm not a sour guy. Apparently maybe
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  I am. I don't know what was getting me was so so I picked
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  up that peach smell right away, but then when I tasted, it wasn't
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  getting that, and it reminded me, I know we want to have because
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  it's not an eye would beer, but the linen cools juicy peach, and
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  I was trying to associate that, and then when it when I tasted,
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  it just wasn't that peach flavor that was expecting. So so, Forrests and
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  Evan, have either of you had this one before? Okay, and before
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  tonight, I don't believe I had either. Have either of you had bush
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  light peach. Yes, I have. Yes, it's pretty good. Actually
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  it's pretty It's nothing compared to this. It's a totally different from very different.
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  Ten times out of ten, I'm grabbing this over a bush light peach.
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  Yes, if bush light peach is there, I would have one sure,
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  it's not bad, but this one's way better. I would concur but
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  it's a totally different style. Sure, yes this is a sour, it's
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  got that more vinegary bite to it, but as vinegary as what was the
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  one that we had before that was very tart. I don't know, but
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  yes, it's the the one my wife got us. That could be the
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  raspberry here I it was not terribly little. Yeah, it's amazing though,
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  what the mind does to you, Because now that I know for sure it
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  is peach, I'm tasting it like, oh yeah on my palate. So
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  the first video on TikTok I saw that there's a guy that this is a
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  lot of his content on TikTok and it does well. Is he people send
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  him beers and he will do this thing, same thing. They're wrapped in
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  tinfoil. He'll open it up, he'll kind of describe what he's tasting,
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  and then at the end he like specifically says, okay, I think it's
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  this. And the first video I saw of him doing it, he went
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  on this long rant and he's like, oh, this tastes like a cider.
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  It's like a light flavor sider, a hint of hint of fruit.
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  It's actually quite nice, not too crazy. He opened it up, and
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  I'm pretty sure it was like a Miller Lite. Okay, that makes me
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  feel a little bit better than so. And even he was laughing at himself,
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  like, I can't believe I overthought that. Yeah, but yeah,
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  that made me want to want to do this. Maybe we'll do this again
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  from time to time. Yeah, for sure, Blueberry Graham Smacker there it
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  is. Okay. The one I think that's the one we were saying,
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  was that from that was a Green Tree. Yeah, yeah, we had
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  that not terribly long ago, and and definitely that was still a good beer
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  in its own right, but on the spectrum of sours, it had more
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  of that acidic kind of truly definitive sour taste to it, whereas this is
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  a little bit calmer, it's a little less. This is a nice,
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  nice tartness, nice amount of peach flavor, but it's not one that it
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  doesn't taste like you're drinking a warhead, you know, Like, yes,
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  it's nice, it's refreshing. Yeah. So this is a time where I
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  tell you I'm allergic to peaches. Oh no, I feel like I would
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  have known that about you. You probably it'd be great content right here.
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  But yeah, great revivalist, great sour. I like it a lot.
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  Peach Wrangler, well, thanks for sure, appreciate it. School school hal
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  And as of now, since JJ McCarthy is a Viking, I will take
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  every time you say hale as a de facto skull and that's fine. You
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  do whatever it takes. Every time JJ throws a touchdown, which hopefully is
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  a lot, I'm going to text you and say skull and you'll know.
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  You'll know what happened even if you're not watching the Viking scheme. I think
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  I would have known that even before JJ though, probably so. Should we
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  recap the draft quickly? Talk about the Vikings draft the Bears draft. Yeah,
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  maybe we could like each give our own grades for each team respectively ABCDF
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  grades for each team. Yeah, yeah, I can get on board that.
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  We also need to recap our bets that we made against each other last
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  week. We didn't like. There was no nothing of substance was wagered between
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  the two of us, But they were the same bets that Forrest and I
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  that's made and substance was wagered. I did pay up on that, right
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  you did? Yeah? Yeah, so we're good. I lost that overall
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  bet. Did you pay up on it? I'm pretty sure I did.
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  I checked my receipt. Yeah yeah, it was the last one of the
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  night. Thank you. Yeah, we got a little fuzzy, as you
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  know. I had forgotten that you two had made the actual bets, and
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  then you and I talked about it, and I kind of just threw my
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  opinions out there with no substance attached. All right, so should we just
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  go through. Let's go through the bets and then we can talk about the
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  drafts. All right? So we had how many total bets? Six of
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  them totally. The first first over under that we talked about, bet wise
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  was how many first round trades that would be draft Kings had the over The
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  over under set at six and a half trades, and the total was five.
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  I believe the Vikings had two of those. Yeah, I don't even
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  remember five. I thought there was like three. So there was a few
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  towards the end. It must include the second I got. Yah, that's
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  right, I forgot the last one was traded or when the Chiefs traded up
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  a little bit too. Yeah. Yeah, so uh, Evan, you
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  said under, I said over you got the under, and I just I
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  felt like, man, seven bets or seven trades. We're talking trades,
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  not bets. Seven trades just seems like a lot. With thirty two picks
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  in the first round, the fourth of the picks almost would have been traded.
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  So I felt I felt pretty good about taking the under on that one.
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  Yeah, and for us, you also had the under. Yep,
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  so I lost that one to you. In our so what Forest and I
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  did. We took all of these bets together. Whoever won more of them
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  won the bet, and we wagered a beer soa bay. I think we
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  had three of the same and yeah, yeah, there was at least two
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  or three that we threw out the window right away. It came down to
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  a couple of bets. Did next one was the first non quarterback selected.
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  I think everybody in the history of the world could have gotten this one,
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  right, even if you've only watched Sports Center once, like ten years ago,
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  you would have known, oh, yeah, this year it's gonna be
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  Marvin Harrison Junior. I mean, there was a small outside chance it was
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  gonna be Mileak Neighbors, but I mean, yeah, maybe, but I
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  but yeah, the overwhelming guest was yeah, and I don't remember what DraftKings
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  had the odds at him. It was probably something like minus two thousand or
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  something. He was the overwhelming favorite to be the first non quarterback. You
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  would have made like five cents on like a fifty dollars bets. It would
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  have been ridiculous. Yep. So that's the one. That's one of them
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  that we all said. Marvin Harrison Junior. He went fourth to the Cardinals.
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  H So there you go. Next one was the total big ten players
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  selected in the first round. Draft Kings had an over under set at five
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  and a half. Evan took the under again yep, Forrest, I believe
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  you under the under. Yeah, I had an under on pret I think
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  everything. So yeah, I took the over. I like the over for
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  some reason. There were four So you're not actually putting money on bets like
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  this, are you. No. I didn't place any actual, like Draft
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  Kings wagers on any of this. The most I bet was a beer with
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  Forest, which I lost, So all right, well that's not too bad.
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  Yeah. Yeah. Next step, we had the total wide receivers in
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  the first round. Draft Kings had the over under set at six and a
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  half. Everybody, I believe took the under. All three of us thought
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  it would be less than six and a half. We were all wrong.
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  There were seven. That's crazy, crazy, Like there were more wide receivers
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  taken than quarterbacks, and there were a ton of quarterbacks taken. So I
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  think that like that just illustrates where the NFL is currently and where the highest
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  levels of college football are. It's offense heavy. Oh and for me,
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  the surprising thing was, I mean Keen Coleman was in the second round.
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  I mean I seven, I would have definitely guessed him. I thought he
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  was like top five wide receiver, but yeah, he was the first pick
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  in the second round. So yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, Yeah,
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  that's a that's a lot of one position players to be picked in a round
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  of thirty two to have seven of any specific position, that's a lot.
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  But yeah, we all took the under and the overhit. So we were
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  all wrong on that next step. JJ McCarthy his draft position, and this
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  is where we kind of confused ourselves a little bit again before we started recording.
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  So the draft King's had the over under on his draft position at five
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  and a half. So either picked fifth or sixth somewhere in there. Evan,
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  I believe last week, did we both take over the over meaning we
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  thought he would be drafted five or better? Yes, because yes, in
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  this sense, over means the higher selection, not the bigger number, the
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  lower selection. And Forrest, I believe you said. I think we interpreted
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  it or we had when we were out, we made sure we understood each
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  other. I took the under, and I was under the other assumption that
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  under meant it's going to be the lower draft number one. He was going
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  to be in the top five picks. So, and I totally get your
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  guys, is rational. I was thinking from a total number perspective. So
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  regardless of how we define over under in this particular instance, were all wrong.
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  Because he fell. And I wouldn't even say he fell. It's not
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  an accurate depiction of what happened. He just didn't get picked until ten.
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  Yeah, I mean he kind of fell. I also think, yeah,
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  a couple of things happened, some dominoes didn't fall his way for him to
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  be picked that early. I mean, which we can tie. I mean,
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  I mean, yeah, we'll talk about it. But basically, teams
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  weren't willing to trade up to potentially get him. I mean, so I
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  think just Malik, neighbors, Marvin Harrison Junior, Joe Walt, the Falcons
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  in general, all of those things. All of those things factored into JJ
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  not being picked until the tenth pick, and you could argue he could have
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  been there at eleven. But again, we'll push that conversation back a little
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  bit too. But either way, like you said, we were all incorrect
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  and thinking he would be a higher quality, a higher you pick than five
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  and a half. He went ten and last, but not least. Since
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  we're in the state of Iowa, we had another specific Iowa player pick,
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  the draft position of Cooper de Gene, the Iowa cornerback, and his over
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  under was twenty two and a half. And Evan, you said over meaning
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  better than twenty three or twenty two, yes, And I said the under
• 23:29
  meaning worse than twenty two. So that was kind of confusing. Yeah,
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  I was with Evan, though I thought he was going to go a little
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  bit before the twenty two. So either way, you both said first round
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  for sure, and I just said after the twenty second or twenty third.
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  What pick did the Packers have in the first round? I can't remember.
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  Oh, I don't remember in the twenty was it like twenty five, I
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  want to say twenty five. Yeah, it was later in the first round.
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  I can't remember exactly, but I thought for sure this bet aside he
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  was a Packer. I mean, I think a lot of Packers fans were
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  pretty excited about that idea as well. Yeah, I mean, he just
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  seems like a player that would fit in that organization really well. They needed
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  a quarterback. I think they ended up getting one. Cornerback, Yeah,
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  cornerback. Yeah. But yeah, I was surprised. I was surprised that
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  he fell as far as he did to pick number forty to the Eagles,
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  which kind of stinks because, yeah, yeah, the Eagles slightly better than
• 24:29
  the Packers, but not by much. Yeah, so technically I was correct
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  in that, although if the over under had been forty, I would have
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  definitely said he would have been higher drafted earlier than forty. But yeah,
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  it was just over under. So yeah, there's the bets that we took.
• 24:45
  Forrest and I had a side bet to another one on the total number
• 24:51
  of Michigan players that would get drafted. I guess yeah, we did.
• 24:55
  The number was thirteen. Forrest was confident enough to make the bet, and
• 24:59
  I I did not think that at all. I still kind of can't believe
• 25:02
  there were thirteen Michigan players. You know, honestly, I would have took
• 25:06
  the bet at fourteen. I'm glad I didn't because I thought fourteen was the
• 25:10
  number I thought it was. That's crazy. Yeah, how much does winning
• 25:15
  a national championship play into that? I mean, dude, teams pay more
• 25:18
  attention. I mean, abslowly you look at I mean I think Washington was
• 25:22
  third with what ten guys leaving Texas had the second most, I think with
• 25:30
  eleven, and then Alabama always has guys so before playoff teams, I mean,
• 25:36
  we're in the top four for draft picks. So I think just the
• 25:41
  better the team is, there's going to be at least one highlight player.
• 25:47
  I mean for Michigan there were quite a few, but you can say the
• 25:49
  more teams that were more NFL teams that were looking at JJ McCarthy, You're
• 25:53
  also going to notice other players on the field. Just by focusing on JJ
• 25:59
  McCarthy, maybe turned the tape on for that one guy, but other guys
• 26:03
  are gonna flash, so you're gonna see even in later rounds, some of
• 26:06
  those obscure guys that wouldn't have gotten a look if not for their quarterback,
• 26:11
  but being a top ten prospect, yeah, I mean, it definitely doesn't
• 26:14
  hurt your chances with the amount of eyes looking at you on primetime TV.
• 26:21
  And well, a few weeks ago when we had Dustin Baker on one of
• 26:23
  the questions, I asked him, was all right, of the highly touted
• 26:26
  quarterbacks the Vikings might get, who of their teammates do you think the Vikings
• 26:32
  would draft as well? Because the Vikings seem to like to draft teammates and
• 26:36
  I was seeing Blake Korm who ultimately where did he go? Uh? He
• 26:40
  went to the Rams? Oh yeah, yeah with Karen Williams. Yeah.
• 26:45
  I was thinking Korm would have looked really good and purple too. But Vikings
• 26:48
  didn't end up having a ton of draft picks. But again we can talk
• 26:55
  about that in a little bit. But yeah, I mean the Bets I
• 26:59
  feel good about him. I ended up losing two beers and a little bit
• 27:03
  of pride, and that's okay. I can live with that. You should
• 27:06
  have seen this guy sweat it out though, until they announced the pick for
• 27:11
  the Vikings in the first round. Well, so I guess we can dive
• 27:15
  in a little bit. I genuinely thought for the Vikings they would trade the
• 27:21
  farm and acquire the third overall pick from the Patriots and get probably Drake May,
• 27:26
  but either Drake May or JJ McCarthy. I genuinely thought that would happen.
• 27:30
  And then once Twitter started buzzing and some news started breaking that hey the
• 27:36
  Patriots, they're not They're not gonna trade. It's like what happens now,
• 27:40
  there's a sweat now, and yeah, they didn't trade with the Patriots.
• 27:45
  Evan's pulling up our text conversation because Evan was in a different spot, and
• 27:52
  I sent him a couple of gifts, like I'm super super tense. I
• 27:56
  think I'd send him the one of SpongeBob, like chewing all his fingernails off.
• 28:00
  Yeah, I was. I was a little concerned. Well, I
• 28:03
  was in the car, I was driving. Well, I actually wasn't driving.
• 28:08
  I was with somebody else, and I actually asked that person to drive
• 28:11
  so that I could be available to watch and support me in text, and
• 28:17
  that person graciously agreed to drive so that I could be attentive to what was
• 28:23
  going on. And you texted me at six oh six. Yeah, I'm
• 28:27
  kind of freaking out right now. The draft hadn't even started yet, No,
• 28:32
  because some news was starting to break that like, yeah, Patriots,
• 28:37
  it would literally take the trade Hall of a lifetime to get them to move.
• 28:40
  And it turns out that was right. Apparently the Vikings did offer eleven
• 28:45
  twenty three the twenty twenty five first, and I've heard something like other pick
• 28:52
  swaps in future years. So the Viking sounds like they were all in on
• 28:56
  trying to get number three, and the Patriot's just decided no, they were
• 29:02
  gonna stick and pick Drake May. And now I hope Drake May sucks.
• 29:07
  I don't think you will, but now I hope you will will. But
• 29:11
  yeah, that was nerve wracking. That was kind of interesting, though,
• 29:14
  because we spent a lot of time talking with each other, and we spent
• 29:15
  a lot of time talking with Dustin Baker about how that was the most logical
• 29:21
  path forward for the Vikings the Patriots. I said many times, the Patriots
• 29:25
  are the most logical trade partner. They'll get up to three. They're gonna
• 29:29
  package the eleven and the twenty three and maybe another pick later on in twenty
• 29:33
  twenty five, they're gonna get up to that third spot. They're gonna take
• 29:37
  Drake May and it's just we're going to ride off into the sunset and it's
• 29:41
  gonna be what it is. And that's not what happened. Yeah, And
• 29:45
  looking back now, even before any of these rookies start playing games, before
• 29:48
  we know how good or bad any of these guys are, the way things
• 29:52
  unfolded, I much prefer what actually happened then what could have happened right now.
• 30:00
  They were able to get JJ McCarthy, a top ten pick, one
• 30:03
  of the top obviously one of the top six quarterbacks in the draft again before
• 30:08
  anybody's played any games, and one of the top two or three best defensive
• 30:15
  players in the entire draft, all while keeping next year's first round pick.
• 30:21
  I don't think you can you could ask for anything more. As a Vikings
• 30:23
  fan, I think that turned out just about as well as you can hope
• 30:27
  at all. I mean from my perspective, Yeah, I mean, I
• 30:30
  think you did really well obviously with the JJ for not having to give up
• 30:36
  as much as originally anticipated. I mean, I think you know, you
• 30:41
  may give up a little bit more for the Alabama guy. But uh,
• 30:45
  yeah, But but I mean I don't think it's a bad I don't think
• 30:49
  it was a bad move. Yeah. I think they ultimately ended up as
• 30:52
  far as capital and everything goes, they ended up giving more to jump up
• 30:56
  and get Dallas Turner than they gave to at JJ McCarthy. However, the
• 31:03
  reason they were able to give give up all that stuff to get Dallas Turner
• 31:07
  is because they didn't have to give all that stuff for JJ McCarthy. They
• 31:11
  still had it in their hands. So in that sense, they both,
• 31:15
  like both JJ and Dallas Turner kind of cost what they cost together. Because
• 31:19
  I mean, if you get up to the third overall pick, I don't
• 31:22
  know if the Falcons take Dallas Turner like they should have. It given too
• 31:27
  much credit to the Falcons, But yeah, I mean I really see that
• 31:32
  as like a whole package deal that since you didn't have to sell the farm
• 31:36
  to move up one pick for JJ, that meant you were able to move
• 31:40
  up. Yeah. I think they definitely were more aggressive knowing that they had
• 31:45
  I'm assuming you saw it. I don't know if you saw it or not,
• 31:48
  but there's that video floating around on Twitter of Kevin O'Connell's reaction to getting
• 31:52
  Dallas Turner Quacy comes in, He's like Turner, we're getting them Quay or
• 32:00
  Kevin O'Connell's he's kind of like leaned back in his chair and he just goes
• 32:05
  it's the most like it's like what my face probably looked like when I was
• 32:08
  a kid and my parents brought in the PlayStation two. It's like the biggest
• 32:13
  wide eyes, like I can't this is the best day ever, Like what
• 32:17
  like? And that's I mean, that's coming from an offensive minded coach that
• 32:22
  just got his quarterback. Yeah, the former quarterback himself, who just got
• 32:25
  his guy, who couldn't be more pumped to, you know, and for
• 32:30
  him to give that reaction of like what what we just got one of the
• 32:35
  elite defensive players in the draft as well. I've heard people say Dallas Turner
• 32:39
  was the best defensive player in the draft. I don't know about that,
• 32:43
  because who was the defensive tackle that went what ninth overall? Can't be ninth
• 32:50
  because that was the Pennix. No, Pix was eight to the Falcons.
• 32:54
  I thought that was number nine. No, he was eight. Oh is
• 32:58
  a I guess we would be causing dead air right now. Evan's looking it
• 33:02
  up. But yeah, I mean, either way, Dallas Turner was overwhelming.
• 33:07
  We're talking about number seven, I might be overwhelmingly we're talking about J.
• 33:12
  C. Latham, he is an offensive tackle. Yeah, oh okay,
• 33:17
  then I don't know who you're talking about, LA two from UCLA because
• 33:22
  Byron Murphy and Murphy's that was throwing me because it was like the Bears were
• 33:28
  number nine, so it's like, oh, you're right, and then and
• 33:30
  then and then I was like, yeah, okay, yep, yep,
• 33:34
  you're right. So I have it wrong. But either way, Dallas Turner
• 33:37
  one of the best defensive players in the draft, and the Vikings got him
• 33:38
  at seventeen, which is wild. Let's talk for a minute about Michael Pennix
• 33:45
  going to the Falcons, because you and I were texting back and forth,
• 33:51
  and as soon as it happened, you texted me what in all caps question
• 33:59
  mark explained question. I think that's constance from the whole NFL nation. Yeah,
• 34:05
  and it was the news of the day the next day too. I
• 34:07
  mean, still the talk of the draft right now. Yeah, And it's
• 34:10
  not a good talk. It's it's a it's a laughing point. I don't.
• 34:14
  I don't understand, and yes, how many times do we say it
• 34:16
  of we're just a couple of dudes in your basement recording a podcast drinking beer.
• 34:22
  I'm not an expert on all of this, but I can't understand how
• 34:28
  they thought that was a good idea, like, unless you get into like
• 34:31
  conspiracy theories where like I've heard the Falcon's owner Arthur Blank he was the one
• 34:37
  that wanted to sign Kirk, and he was going to sign Kirk no matter
• 34:39
  what, and maybe the GM and coach wanted to go a different way.
• 34:43
  Again, that's conspiracy theory. Nothing's confirmed on that. But like, you
• 34:46
  give Kirk a guaranteed one hundred million dollars for two years, but a total
• 34:52
  contract of one hundred and eighty million dollars for four years, and then you
• 34:58
  spend a top ten and pick on a quarterback who isn't It's not like it
• 35:02
  was JJ, who's twenty one years old. This dude's injury prone and twenty
• 35:08
  four. So I mean, I will say I think my Michael Pennox can
• 35:14
  be a good, a really good quarterback. Sure, I just don't think
• 35:16
  he was worthy of the number eight. Spot. The Falcons could have traded
• 35:22
  back like they probably could go to the Vikings into trading up to number eight,
• 35:27
  like Michael Pinnox, I think on most boards they I think the bet,
• 35:30
  the line bet was thirty two on him or thirty two and a half,
• 35:35
  So they didn't know even if he was gonna make the first round.
• 35:37
  Yeah, and to go number eight after like you didn't, you didn't.
• 35:42
  That wasn't your number one need. When you have the eighth overall pick,
• 35:45
  you've got some needs and you need to fulfill those needs. And quarterback right
• 35:51
  now unless they know something about Kirk that nobody else knows, like he's not
• 35:55
  healing well or whatever, which I mean he was throwing on a tennis court
• 36:00
  just a few weeks ago and like apparently went through some medical stuff before it
• 36:05
  was even legal. Even so you you go out and get you know,
• 36:10
  a rental for you know, a half season or or such. Yeah,
• 36:15
  and then you feel like, I've honestly obviously with that. They believe that
• 36:20
  he was the fourth best quarterback in the draft. Yeah, because at the
• 36:23
  time they had Pennix, JJ and bo Nicks all available. Of the top
• 36:29
  quarterback guys. I'm sure there was another tier that we've never heard of because
• 36:31
  it stops at bo Nicks. But yeah, they had all three of those
• 36:36
  guys. I said a handful of weeks ago with the Vikings, get to
• 36:37
  like the third or second pick, and they have a handful of those guys
• 36:42
  available, and they still pick JJ. Then you know, JJ was one
• 36:45
  hundred percent there guy. The Falcons had all three available, and they went
• 36:50
  with Penix on top of making what I'll just say a terrible decision in drafting
• 36:54
  a quarterback eighth overall. Anyways, and I come back to this Moneyball quote
• 37:00
  that I reference all the time. It's my one of my favorite movies,
• 37:06
  and it's Billy Bean is talking to his head scout and he's saying, I've
• 37:12
  sat in those living rooms, and you tell those parents when it comes to
• 37:15
  your son, I know. And then he looks at him and says,
• 37:17
  you don't, you don't, And you know, we sit here, We're
• 37:22
  just a couple of dudes you mentioned in a few minutes ago. We don't.
• 37:27
  I mean, maybe the Falcons have figured it out, and maybe they've
• 37:30
  got their Aaron Rodgers or they've got their Patrick Mahomes and Kirk Cousins is the
• 37:36
  guy to kind of develop him and help him become what he can be,
• 37:42
  lead him to his potential, and then he takes over. Falcons are almost
• 37:46
  everyone in America. Everyone. It could be like looking stupid. Well,
• 37:51
  And the thing is, if four years from now, Michael Pennix is the
• 37:54
  Patrick Mahomes of four years from now and multiple super Bowls and he has broken
• 38:00
  every record and he's the best ever, do you know how many people are
• 38:04
  gonna come out and be like, I knew they made the right choice.
• 38:07
  I was calling for it the whole time. Like there's gonna be so many
• 38:10
  liars if that's the case. Like I'll say it right now. I'm happy
• 38:15
  four years from now saying I was wrong, But right now I'd be furious
• 38:21
  if I was a Falcons fan. I think I think you're the bottom line
• 38:25
  is I think what you said They could have got him later in the first
• 38:30
  round. Yeah, and they really wanted him. I think what this comes
• 38:34
  back to for our favorite team anyways, is the Vikings look like the smarter
• 38:37
  organization because they got their guy at ten when they had the eleventh pick.
• 38:45
  I don't believe for a second that Sean Payton baited them into trading up.
• 38:49
  I was gonna I was gonna bring that up too. I'm gonna talk about
• 38:51
  that in a second. Squash that rumor. I think. I think that's
• 38:53
  total BS. I think they made the right move to get up so that
• 39:00
  the Jets didn't have another trade partner and they got they got their guy at
• 39:04
  ten and they didn't give up anything, and they still had that twenty third
• 39:07
  pick. Well, they give up a little bit, what was it,
• 39:09
  like a fourth and a fifth round or something like that, some mid to
• 39:13
  lower round picks to move up one. But I mean where the Falcons are
• 39:17
  saying they drafted Michael Pennix for insurance or for the future, in the same
• 39:22
  way the Vikings gave up what they had to do to jump up to want
• 39:28
  the tenth overall pick for insurance and to guarantee they get what they want to
• 39:34
  get. But yeah, to your point when Sean Payton, there's that video
• 39:38
  clip of him saying, like, oh, yeah, I was involved in
• 39:42
  making people believe we really wanted to get up for the tenth pick, but
• 39:46
  we were never gonna do that. Haha. Ha. Like that is the
• 39:51
  biggest pile of BS I've ever seen from a human being. In my entire
• 39:54
  life, why would the Broncos try to go anybody into thinking they're gonna move
• 40:02
  up two picks, especially try to think make the make the Jets give up
• 40:07
  that pick, or to steal it from the Vikings. They're in the AFC,
• 40:13
  the Jets, and the Jets are in the AFC. Why would they
• 40:15
  have made a trade with another AFC opponent for a quarterback when they apparently seemed
• 40:21
  comfortable with Bonix. Anyways, I think they actually were trying to make the
• 40:25
  trade. They would never purposely like say, oh, yeah, we didn't
• 40:30
  really want a better quarterback than bo Nicks, Like it's such a pile of
• 40:35
  bs. So you're you're saying that Sean Payton is just trying to cover up
• 40:38
  the the BS with. So here's one of two scenarios happened. The Jets
• 40:45
  really were just trying to tell the Vikings like, hey, we're getting some
• 40:49
  calls. If you want this pick to guarantee your quarterback, you should make
• 40:52
  this trade, when really they weren't getting calls or not like serious calls,
• 40:57
  or the Broncos and or however many other teams. Because we were sitting there
• 41:00
  together, Eve and me for us and there was a like Vegas and New
• 41:04
  Orleans, all could theoretically have wanted to get up to that tenth pick.
• 41:08
  I think what really is, what really happened was the Jets were getting a
• 41:13
  lot of calls and maybe the Vikings had a better offer, just in the
• 41:15
  fact that the Jets only had to go down one pick while gaining another fourth
• 41:20
  or whatever. So the Jets wanted to trade with the Vikings, but other
• 41:23
  teams were making calls. So I think the Jets were really saying, like,
• 41:27
  hey, Vikes, we are actually getting calls, so like if you
• 41:30
  want this, you got a sweeten your deal. And I think the Broncos
• 41:32
  were actually trying to trade up. They wouldn't have tried to pretend like they
• 41:36
  didn't want to. Like I agree, I think there's nothing Broncos, Raiders,
• 41:43
  Saints. I think all could have seen themselves in the right you know
• 41:47
  scenario, and yeah, plus any other team and we never really know.
• 41:52
  There could have been a team in the twenties that really were thinking, Okay,
• 41:54
  JJ is our guy, so let's try like crazy to draft ahead of
• 41:59
  the Viking. Like sure, I mean, just when Mahomes was drafted,
• 42:01
  the Chiefs jumped up ten spots to get Mahomes. They knew that's the guy
• 42:08
  they wanted. So yeah, I don't think Sean Payton was faking that he
• 42:15
  wanted to jump up. Either he wasn't calling and the Jets were pretending they
• 42:19
  were getting calls, or Sean Payton was calling trying to get JJ McCarthy.
• 42:23
  We spent a lot of time talking about the Vikings draft. Yeah, what
• 42:27
  about the Bears. How do you feel Forrest had four picks? Five Actually
• 42:32
  we traded for a fifth one. Ah, okay, but uh no,
• 42:37
  I have to say I really thought that the Bears did really well in this
• 42:43
  draft. I mean, he can't go wrong, obviously with the number one
• 42:46
  pick, still don't you can go wrong. You can't go wrong. But
• 42:50
  I think Williams as Bale Williams. As much as I don't like him as
• 42:53
  a person listened to previous episodes of this podcast, I don't like him,
• 42:58
  but I think he's got great potential and with the weapons now that the Bears
• 43:05
  are put around him, I think they can do it a doomsday man.
• 43:09
  I think that's that's a great pick in the first round to use. I
• 43:15
  think he's just a great wide receiver. That's gonna fit well with our core.
• 43:22
  I mean, you gotta give it up with uh. I'm gonna pronounce
• 43:25
  it right. I'm a gajee. I think Kieran. I'm a guy.
• 43:31
  Now, this is a guy from from Yale. So so, but he's
• 43:36
  played both garden tackle, big big, big body guy, so I don't
• 43:43
  know much. I haven't really seen much tape obviously played for Yale, so
• 43:45
  not really in in the the Power five type stuff. But gotta trust the
• 43:51
  organization. Tory Taylor, I think we all know a lot about him being
• 43:55
  the Iowa punter. I mean the consensus nest punter in the draft, and
• 44:00
  I mean for the amount of times he punted and to consistently put up those
• 44:07
  those types of numbers. As an Iowa fan, I'll bring up a fun
• 44:10
  stat that we brought up a few times. He had more punt yards than
• 44:15
  the Iowa Was it the Iowa offense had rush yards or total yards or what
• 44:21
  was it? It was something ridiculous and it might have been total yards.
• 44:23
  Like he was a better punter than the entire Iowa offense was an offense.
• 44:27
  Like there's a reason why the fans like cheered more for the punter than than
• 44:34
  the entire offense. I mean, there's a reason why their offensive coordinator is
• 44:37
  now an analyst for Maryland film man. Poor Maryland. I don't know what
• 44:42
  they're thinking anyway. And lastly, the trade that they didn't have, but
• 44:47
  then they went out and uh, I think it was with Buffalo either way.
• 44:52
  Austin Booker, I think this guy is a hidden gym. This dude
• 44:58
  was supposed to be I think projected like third round. They got him in
• 45:02
  the fifth rounds, So I think he's going to be dynamite. So I'm
• 45:07
  pretty excited. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think even Dustin Baker
• 45:12
  said this recently on one of the things he does bikes now or something.
• 45:15
  He said, Yeah, I mean, as of right now, it looks
• 45:17
  like the Paars won the draft like they got there arguably the best quarterback in
• 45:25
  the entire draft. I think anybody if they would have had the first overall
• 45:29
  pick, Caleb Williams is going number one overall no matter what. So the
• 45:32
  best quarterback in the draft, A top three to five wide receiver. I
• 45:37
  mean, you could argue easily top three wide receiver. The I mean it
• 45:43
  almost sounds like a joke. But really the best punter in the draft and
• 45:46
  instantly upper echelon punters in the NFL without ever having played in the NFL.
• 45:52
  And then some really good depth guys. I mean the Bears. And they
• 45:55
  didn't have to give up a ton. They really didn't. I mean people
• 46:00
  don't look at it, but I mean they've given up a lot of their
• 46:01
  draft picks. That's why they have a lot to get the pieces through trades
• 46:06
  and everything. Montese Sweat, I mean, that's the big name that they
• 46:10
  gave up some some picks for, and but that that's a huge piece of
• 46:15
  the puzzle. So yeah, so yeah, it's being honest, it's hard
• 46:21
  to say the Bears. You can't say the Bears had a bad draft.
• 46:23
  What's what's crazy is I I don't think any of the NFC North teams had
• 46:29
  a bad draft. I think they all did well. It's I think I
• 46:35
  think it's gonna be a tough division this this next season. I hope so,
• 46:42
  because it always means the Vikings have gotten better. So the Vikings had
• 46:47
  a handful of other picks, not that they're less than the other picks,
• 46:53
  but maybe got a little less fan fair than the other picks. So,
• 46:57
  cornerback Kyrie Jackson, tackle Walter Rowse, kicker, Will Record, senator Michael
• 47:05
  Jurgens, and defensive tackle Levi Drake Rodriguez. Yeah so, Dallas Turner from
• 47:12
  Alabama. He was on Paul Allen's radio show today. We're recording on Monday
• 47:16
  after the draft, and Pa asked Dallas Turner about his fellow Alabama teammate now
• 47:24
  Viking teammate, Will Riker Record, and Dallas Turner instantly said, yeah,
• 47:32
  man's a straight sniper. Will rikerd like that. He already had a nickname
• 47:37
  in Alabama for being a really good punter er. I'm sorry, Kicker,
• 47:43
  I don't know. I never really know anything about the lower round guys.
• 47:46
  I'm a pretty casual college football fan. That's why Force is on right now.
• 47:52
  But again, to reference his name again, Dustin Baker, he said,
• 47:55
  just the other day, some of these picks, like, yeah,
• 47:59
  we look at these these guys that show up out of nowhere from the sixth
• 48:04
  round or seventh round, and they end up being starters and Pro Bowlers and
• 48:07
  ultimately like Hall of famers when you look like Tom Brady. But that's not
• 48:12
  what the later rounds are for. The later rounds are to fill depth positions.
• 48:15
  How many times we said Alex Madison is a really good RB two,
• 48:22
  Nick Mullens is a really good QB two. That is an actual position.
• 48:28
  You need those guys to fill the depth roles. And I think that's what
• 48:31
  the Vikings got. And I'm not I'm not crapping on any of these,
• 48:35
  you know, I mean later picks. I don't know all of them that.
• 48:38
  I don't think I had heard of the last guy le by Drake Rodriguez.
• 48:44
  I don't think anybody I will. I will tell you the cornerback Kyrie
• 48:47
  Jackson that you got. He's a tall, lengthy cornerback. You think cornerbacks
• 48:52
  that being six foot, This dude, I think is like six three six
• 48:57
  four. He's he's tall and lengthy. So and that's what where the cornerback
• 49:00
  position is going because of wide receiver position. So a guy like that can
• 49:06
  battle those taller wide receivers a lot easier. And so yeah, I like
• 49:13
  I said, I think that that was a great pick for for you guys.
• 49:16
  And I've seen on Twitter too, especially with because the Vikings signed like
• 49:22
  seventeen undrafted free agents, there's a lot Yeah, and I saw a few
• 49:28
  people mentioned like everybody the Vikings drafted, specifically the last few rounds, including
• 49:36
  the undrafted guys, they all had at least one ranking in PFF that was
• 49:42
  an elite ranking and maybe they had a knock somewhere else. But they people
• 49:46
  on Twitter are saying like, yeah, I guess Cuacy is really showing that
• 49:50
  he's an analytic GM by just signing all of the higher ranking PFF guys,
• 49:57
  which hey, I mean, if if you're take flyers in the fifth,
• 50:00
  sixth, seventh round and undrafted free agency, you never know when you're gonna
• 50:05
  get Ivan Pace Junior, you know, you never know when you're gonna get
• 50:07
  some of these guys that are diamonds in the rough. I'm not saying any
• 50:09
  of these guys will turn out to be good, but I mean you're I
• 50:14
  think you're gonna know a lot with uh, obviously the first couple guys.
• 50:17
  Not that JJ's gonna start day one, but I mean that you definitely will
• 50:22
  see Dallas Turner out there. Obviously your kicker feels like that. That's I
• 50:28
  mean, anytime you draft what was he a fifth round draft pick and for
• 50:32
  uh, well right, I think so, I mean it's hard to cut
• 50:37
  a guy like that, Like it's hard to draft a kicker anyways, but
• 50:40
  once you draft guy, he was the sixth round, Okay, but still
• 50:44
  a sixth round, Like you're still drafting a kicker, Like it's it's not
• 50:49
  just taking a flyer on a guy like I think he was the first kicker
• 50:52
  taken well. And I mean, once again, I hate to hate to
• 50:54
  use it as as college versus college, but the dude did play for Alabama,
• 50:59
  so I mean I think he's legitimately and not just for one year.
• 51:02
  He was their kicker for the last full year, correct, so he kept
• 51:07
  his job and at an elite level. I think kicker, quarterback, those
• 51:10
  are positions where you don't have a ton of depth. You might have one
• 51:15
  extra guy on the roster at the kicker position, and maybe two extra guys
• 51:20
  at the quarterback position. Yeah, that are gonna be on the roster.
• 51:23
  Beyond that active fifty three man. You might have a couple other practice squad
• 51:27
  guys. But yeah, I mean that's it. Like you get two quarterbacks,
• 51:31
  you get one extra kicker maybe and he might also be your punter.
• 51:36
  Yeah. So I mean, like, for for will record, he's got
• 51:40
  a competition with John Parker Romo because he's all he's automatically since he was drafted,
• 51:46
  he potted in as K one like true for sure the starter right now,
• 51:51
  but there could still be some some shifting and movement based on how training
• 51:55
  camp goes and preseason goes whatnot. And same for JAJ. I mean,
• 52:00
  I think what's interesting about JJ and we haven't talked about this yet, but
• 52:05
  they've put him on this kind of like benchmark plan to uh, he has
• 52:12
  to hit certain things and he has to hit he has to do certain things
• 52:15
  in practice and hit certain milestones before he is handed over the reins. And
• 52:22
  again, I think that comes back to Quasi's very analytical mindset. He's analyzed
• 52:29
  these high first round quarterback draft picks and why they succeed and why they don't,
• 52:35
  and he's figured out maybe a plan of Okay, if we can gradually
• 52:39
  build JJ up to being that starter, maybe he's more successful than some of
• 52:46
  these, you know, like a Christian Ponder kind of guy that there's a
• 52:51
  high first round pick that flopped or you know he was a desperation first round
• 52:55
  pick. Do you do you guys think depending on how your season's going and
• 53:00
  how well you know your QB play is going. That kind of might signal
• 53:07
  how quickly JJ gets on the field. It could I think if it's like
• 53:14
  a desperation season, if they put JJ in, it's because they're kind of
• 53:21
  throwing in the towel on the season, unless he is starting to show some
• 53:25
  stuff in practice and stuff that really makes you think, okay, he's won
• 53:30
  this job. I genuinely think even right now, if the Vikings were to
• 53:36
  put out a depth chart right now, honestly, JJ is not QB one.
• 53:42
  He is maybe QB two. Now when the season starts, I still
• 53:49
  think Sam Darnold, he's your QB one, and JJ's a very close QB
• 53:53
  two. Unless JJ hits all these benchmarks and proves without a shadow of doubt
• 54:00
  that he has won the job. I really hope the Vikings are smart with
• 54:02
  this because we are looking at a Viking season that might be another seven win
• 54:07
  season, but with a rookie quarterback and a young and up and coming team,
• 54:13
  you can kind of stomach that a little bit. If you see flashes
• 54:16
  if Dallas Turner gets fifteen sacks, which would be that's a crazy man.
• 54:20
  If he gets eight to ten sacks, like, that's really nice. If
• 54:23
  JJ gets in on some garbage time or even starts the last few games of
• 54:27
  the season, assuming it's a bad season, and shows some flashes, that's
• 54:31
  really nice. I've in pace. If he takes another step up JJ,
• 54:36
  if they get his contract sign and he just keeps dominating, we're gonna see
• 54:38
  flashes and we're going to root for individual things. I don't expect this to
• 54:44
  be a high win season for the Vikings. I think something I would maybe
• 54:51
  push back on. And I don't know that I've held this opinion until now,
• 54:53
  and I don't think I would have held this opinion until all of this
• 54:57
  is developed. But I think we might see j J JJ sooner than we
• 55:04
  expect. And I think that might be largely because of how successful these younger
• 55:09
  quarterbacks have been as of late. I mean, you look at Joe Burrow,
• 55:14
  you look at Tua, you look at Patrick Mahomes is getting older now
• 55:17
  he's kind of in that older echelon of players, but he's still relatively young.
• 55:22
  But even Mahomes, he sat his whole first season. He did,
• 55:27
  to your point, is a great example. So like I don't know,
• 55:34
  like you look at these recent examples of quarterbacks who have been put even Mahomes
• 55:40
  didn't sit as long as Aaron Rodgers sat, didn't sit as long as Jordan
• 55:45
  Love sat, right Like they were thrust into that starting position earlier than historically
• 55:52
  is thought to be the right amount of time. Right. And I can
• 55:57
  say this as a coach because we do this with our track athletes all the
• 56:00
  time. Sometimes we'll put younger kids into a race just because they don't know
• 56:06
  any better, Yeah, and they're just gonna go They're just gonna go out
• 56:07
  and they're gonna give one hundred percent. And sometimes there's a difference between putting
• 56:12
  a freshman in a race and a senior in a race, because the seniors
• 56:15
  are smarter and they've been around for a while and they know how things work,
• 56:17
  and they may not perform the way that you want them to because they're
• 56:21
  so up here. I can see that, and you just you put the
• 56:23
  freshmen out there and they just they do it, and sometimes you get more
• 56:28
  success that way. Not all the time, but sometimes. And I wonder
• 56:34
  if both just kind of the land the current landscape of quarterbacks in the NFL,
• 56:38
  and that just like young and dumb mentality of well JJ's fresh out of
• 56:45
  college, he won a national championship. He's a really good quarterback. I'll
• 56:50
  just put him out there and see what happens. And I don't think the
• 56:52
  Vikings have a lot to lose that way, because it's not like they paid
• 56:57
  Sam Darnold a fortune. I mean, he's they paid him enough to be
• 57:02
  a quote unquote bridge quarterback yep, and not not anything more. Yeah,
• 57:07
  and I'm okay with that, Yep, I am too. And I think
• 57:13
  I think the Vikings are poised to be a good team in a few years.
• 57:17
  Yeah. Yeah. And and I think you look at like historically those
• 57:22
  young quarterbacks, they struggle for a year or two. They they throw a
• 57:27
  lot of picks, they get sacked a lot and fumble, but once they
• 57:31
  figure out the game, they can be really effective. Yeah. And so
• 57:37
  I don't know, I think the learning curve will be short for j J.
• 57:40
  I don't think it's gonna be a whole season or two seasons. I
• 57:46
  think we see him sooner rather than later. Yeah, that's my prediction.
• 57:50
  You hear JJ talk, And he's not just like a good looking kid.
• 57:55
  He's not just you know, got a big arm, like he's an intelligent
• 58:00
  kid. And he has a big arm, and he's had success everywhere,
• 58:05
  which I don't think you can understate that he's had success everywhere. Yeah,
• 58:08
  it's a team sport, but he plays the most important position in the team
• 58:12
  sport, which I think is why he was drafted is because he shows good
• 58:16
  physical ability and he's had success everywhere, most notably the National Championship with Michigan.
• 58:22
  I guess all I'm saying is I hope the Vikings do this right,
• 58:28
  and whether it's game one or Game ten or the last couple of games of
• 58:34
  the year, I hope they don't put JJ in as a starter until he
• 58:37
  wins the job, not just when Sam Donald throws three picks, Like I
• 58:44
  think this year, and maybe we disagree a little bit on this, and
• 58:46
  that's okay. I just think this year, you kind of know what you're
• 58:50
  getting into now. If they get to five, win five and zero,
• 58:54
  and then Sam Donald starts throwing picks and you're like, oh, we actually
• 59:00
  have a decent team and JJ's almost there, then you know, every situation
• 59:04
  is a little bit different. But I just think you you ride with Donald
• 59:08
  and you let him be QB one with the best team he's been on as
• 59:13
  the starter in his entire career, and you preserve and protect JJ at all
• 59:19
  costs. If Donald throws three picks in the season opener, well you never
• 59:23
  let a guy throw four picks. You never let that happen. But then
• 59:28
  maybe you throw Nick Mullins in or something. I don't know. You you
• 59:31
  have to protect. I'm of the mindset you protect him a little bit,
• 59:36
  not a hard and fast rule that, no, he's not seeing the field
• 59:38
  this year. Let him win the job and give him every opportunity to win
• 59:43
  the job. That's fair, and I think this system that they've got in
• 59:45
  place for him will help with that. Yeah. Yeah, it's always It's
• 59:50
  always tough because obviously the fan base is really excited to see what they what
• 59:55
  they have, so they're anxious. But to your point, Austin, I
• 1:00:00
  I would agree, he don't want to throw him out there until he's ready
• 1:00:05
  well and is just learning through through the actual game itself. I mean,
• 1:00:10
  you can only learn so much. You gotta learn the playbook and and do
• 1:00:15
  so many reps, but you gotta get in live action against yeah yeah,
• 1:00:20
  in real games. Yeah, I know, there is no no better substitute
• 1:00:24
  than than real experience because even practice you're only going to get so much.
• 1:00:29
  But even with JJ on your favorite team for us, the Wolverines, he
• 1:00:34
  had to win the job and it was a little controversial and took over for
• 1:00:39
  mc so. I mean when he came in as a freshman, everyone you
• 1:00:44
  know, wanted him to start wrote right away he definitely wasn't ready and Cad
• 1:00:49
  McNamara, but they they did play JJ sum during that season, so it
• 1:00:53
  wasn't like he sat the entire time, so you saw those flashes. And
• 1:00:58
  then I mean during during the college football lost to Georgia, I mean we
• 1:01:04
  were down, you know, so they just let JJ pretty much play the
• 1:01:07
  second half, and I think it was a good experience. Yeah, he
• 1:01:12
  wasn't perfect by any means, but you could tell it was a different team
• 1:01:15
  when he was on the field, how the offense ran. And then yeah,
• 1:01:22
  his sophomore year he won the starting job and that's why McNamara, you
• 1:01:25
  know, he got injured a few games and you know, and then and
• 1:01:30
  then obviously transferred, you know, because he knew he had lost, which
• 1:01:35
  is fine, totally okay with that, but uh yeah, so I mean
• 1:01:39
  JJ, from my standpoint, you get cade McNamara, who won the first
• 1:01:45
  Big Ten championship for Michigan and however long led him to the first college football
• 1:01:51
  Playoff that Michigan ever been in. And then the next year, JJ is
• 1:01:54
  the star. So that speaks volumes that I mean, yeah, so this
• 1:01:59
  isn't the first time I'm JJ in a big spot, has had to earn
• 1:02:02
  his spot. I just hope, Oh, he loves the competition. He
• 1:02:07
  so I fully expect, you know, him to grind it. And I
• 1:02:12
  would not be shocked if if I'd give it probably game five, game six,
• 1:02:16
  that you see JJ, and it's and if that's when he wins the
• 1:02:22
  job, awesome, like and if he wins the job in the second week
• 1:02:27
  of training camp, awesome. If he doesn't win the job till the end
• 1:02:30
  of the season, that's as long as the coaches are saying that, then
• 1:02:32
  I'm comfortable with it. And I just hope the fact that he was the
• 1:02:37
  tenth overall pick doesn't make the coaches believe he's already won the job. I
• 1:02:42
  don't think that is, but I just I hope that's not the case.
• 1:02:45
  So let's kind of wrap this up here with some letter grades. Here,
• 1:02:49
  let's each give a letter grade for each team, the Vikings and the Bears.
• 1:02:52
  Let's start with Forrest and we'll work our way this way, all right,
• 1:02:57
  letter grade for the Vikings, letter grade for the Bears. In the
• 1:03:00
  draft? What would you say if I'm if I'm being very you know,
• 1:03:05
  try to be a neutral party. I really don't have to. You don't
• 1:03:09
  have to appease us, No, no, no, but I'm trying.
• 1:03:12
  I'm trying to look as a whole, not only even with you guys,
• 1:03:15
  I mean, but as a draft was whole. I think the Bears did
• 1:03:19
  do one of the better jobs and the draft just with where what they had
• 1:03:23
  to go with. Uh, I give them a definitely, an A I
• 1:03:29
  would say for the Vikings, definitely for the first round. You guys got
• 1:03:34
  an A for for what what value got out of it. But overall,
• 1:03:38
  i'd give you a B for for the the overall draft, I think you
• 1:03:43
  did get some good value. We'll we'll we'll see, we'll see how it
• 1:03:47
  turns out. All right, I'm gonna go a minus for the Bears.
• 1:03:53
  I think the only thing the Bears could have done better, and this isn't
• 1:03:59
  maybe a really even a fair grade. It's just what they could have done
• 1:04:01
  differently earlier on to be more successful in this draft was have more picks in
• 1:04:08
  this draft. I mean, they were not a good team and they haven't
• 1:04:11
  been a good team for two years now, and to put all of your
• 1:04:15
  stock in one quarterback to me, seems maybe a little irresponsible. So I'm
• 1:04:24
  not going to discredit their draft. They got the guy, and they got
• 1:04:28
  a good wide receiver as well in Dunze, and they got a few other
• 1:04:32
  good players as well. But they had five picks overall. That's it.
• 1:04:36
  In a seven round draft where you're almost guaranteed seven picks, to trade all
• 1:04:43
  those picks away to only end up with five, to me, that seems
• 1:04:46
  like a little bit of a knock against the team. So A Again,
• 1:04:51
  it's not necessarily a grade that reflects just how they picked with this draft.
• 1:04:57
  It reflects on the decisions they made leading up up to the draft, but
• 1:05:01
  A minus. Nonetheless, I'm gonna give the Vikings a B plus. I
• 1:05:06
  think they were smart in the first round. I think the first round was
• 1:05:11
  the best round for the Vikings. I don't think the other rounds were bad.
• 1:05:15
  I think adding to the cornerback room was helpful, adding depth on the
• 1:05:21
  offensive line was helpful. Adding competition for that kicker position. Arguably even adding
• 1:05:28
  that number one kicker was great. I was very disappointed that they did not
• 1:05:31
  add anything to the defensive tackle position until the end of the draft. I
• 1:05:36
  was hoping that that would happen sooner and I thought for sure after the first
• 1:05:42
  round that would be a priority for the Vikings, and that wasn't apparently a
• 1:05:49
  priority for them. They didn't pick a defensive tackle until the end of the
• 1:05:54
  draft in the seventh round, and I'm glad they picked somebody up. But
• 1:06:00
  you said a little bit ago, those later rounds in the drafts aren't necessarily
• 1:06:03
  Yeah, you're not looking for starters. Those starters, they are those depths
• 1:06:08
  guys, and so you gotta wonder, like, well, who's the guy
• 1:06:12
  then, I mean, who's going to be filling those those A gap holes?
• 1:06:17
  Right now? I think it's a big question mark. Yeah, I
• 1:06:20
  mean it's Harrison Phillips, but it's not like that's yeah, but he's the
• 1:06:25
  best thing. He was one guy in a four to three defense where you
• 1:06:29
  need two guys in the middle. So I mean, unless we go back
• 1:06:32
  to a three four, which I don't see happening. I think they are
• 1:06:36
  a three four. I think it is a three to four defense. It
• 1:06:40
  was a three four, And then when I think Flow brought in a three
• 1:06:44
  four, I might be wrong. I was actually gonna say I thought Floors
• 1:06:47
  was more of a three to four guy. That's where you're getting the edge
• 1:06:50
  instead of the outside. Look, that's fair, and maybe anyways, maybe
• 1:06:54
  I misunderstand defense, but I thought I wouldn't say that. I thought previously
• 1:07:00
  it was a three four. Dona Tell definitely brought in a three four,
• 1:07:03
  and I thought Flores brought in more of a four to three. And I'm
• 1:07:08
  used to a four to three, but because that's what the Vikings have run
• 1:07:12
  away historically, I think Flora was a four to three guy. I think
• 1:07:15
  don Tell was hard and fast, always four three, but I think Flores
• 1:07:19
  is more yeah, three four. Sorry, Dontell was more of a three
• 1:07:25
  four, but I think Flores is more of a dynamics He's all over the
• 1:07:30
  place a three four though, Okay, he likes to bring the pressure,
• 1:07:32
  oh yeah, but like he's one that I think famously will have more safeties
• 1:07:39
  and linebackers on the field than any other position. Sont really pegged down again.
• 1:07:43
  We even commented on how daniel Hunter was more effective with Flores than he
• 1:07:47
  was under Donateel. Yeah, because Danielle Hunter in Dontell's system was more of
• 1:07:53
  that linebackers stand up, stand up off the ball, or you know that
• 1:08:00
  guy, which, yeah, he's good at that, He's athletic enough to
• 1:08:02
  do that. But when Flores came in, he was more of that.
• 1:08:08
  I mean, those edge guys aren't necessarily down lineman, but they are in
• 1:08:13
  that three point stance more often than not. And I mean Danil had that
• 1:08:18
  speed. I don't know, I know what you're saying, though, Yeah,
• 1:08:23
  regardless, I think to have somebody in the middle other than Harrison Phillips
• 1:08:28
  is going to be important. And I don't know if waiting until the seventh
• 1:08:31
  round was the best choice for the Vikings. Yeah, and so B plus,
• 1:08:36
  I think they're like an eighty nine percent, and I'm a teacher,
• 1:08:42
  so I'll round up an eighty nine point five or better and give them the
• 1:08:45
  A minus. I think they're like an eighty they're an eighty nine point four
• 1:08:49
  to nine. They're like, they're that close to being an A minus.
• 1:08:53
  But they're just just a little little shy that overall is still pretty good,
• 1:08:58
  but could have been better. All right, So for the Bears, for
• 1:09:00
  us, you had an A, and Evan you had an A minus the
• 1:09:04
  Bears. For the Bears, and for the Vikings you had a B and
• 1:09:09
  you had a B B plus. Okay, all right, So for the
• 1:09:14
  Bears, I'm gonna give them an A. It would be an A plus
• 1:09:19
  just because they got the consensus best quarterback, one of the elite wide receivers.
• 1:09:25
  Again, it sounds like a joke, but it's not one of like
• 1:09:28
  the best punter in the in all of rookie incoming players, not even just
• 1:09:32
  the draft. They got some elite players in their picks, but because it's
• 1:09:39
  because they only had five picks and four before that, they came in with
• 1:09:44
  four. That's why it's an A. However, I think they were afforded
• 1:09:48
  that with all of the moves they made last season at the trade deadline,
• 1:09:54
  once free agency started, they made some big moves, even a couple of
• 1:09:57
  trades. They they have definitely done everything they can to be a better team
• 1:10:02
  in twenty twenty four than they were in twenty twenty three. But still their
• 1:10:08
  draft, it's an A, A solid A. You can't argue with that.
• 1:10:10
  I don't think the Vikings. I'm gonna say a B minus. They
• 1:10:16
  made some moves, some very good moves in the first round, and did
• 1:10:21
  everything they could to preserve their first round in twenty twenty five next year,
• 1:10:29
  which is awesome. However, in getting JJ and Dallas Turner, they essentially
• 1:10:35
  traded away. You could argue an entire draft between a bunch of a couple
• 1:10:42
  of second round picks, a couple of thirds, and a handful of late
• 1:10:47
  round picks between twenty twenty four's draft and twenty twenty five's draft. All of
• 1:10:51
  those picks and all the trades they made, they kind of gave up an
• 1:10:56
  entire draft. However, that's all worth it if JJ turns out to even
• 1:11:00
  be good and if Dallas Turner turns out to even be a good starter.
• 1:11:04
  If those two things happen, totally worth it. Give away a draft every
• 1:11:09
  other year if you get two solid Pro Bowl level starters, like, nobody's
• 1:11:14
  complaining about that, at least not during the season. They might in April,
• 1:11:16
  but whatever. But because they had to give up a lot and they're
• 1:11:21
  rookies, they're unknowns. I don't expect it, but JJ could turn out
• 1:11:26
  to suck like he could turn out to just see ghosts sweet Tube. Yeah,
• 1:11:30
  bad mouthing again, I don't expect it. I'm a fan. I've
• 1:11:33
  said many times I would have been happy with Drake may or JJ McCarthy,
• 1:11:39
  and they got one of them and didn't have to mortgage their entire future just
• 1:11:43
  a little bit of next year and a little bit of this year. But
• 1:11:46
  because they gave up so much on some unknown rookies, that's a be minus
• 1:11:53
  for me, which is still a good grade. I got a lot to
• 1:11:55
  be minuses. I'm okay, that's fair. That's fair. So a for
• 1:12:00
  the Bears, B minus for the Vikes for me. So overall, we're
• 1:12:03
  saying pretty good drafts for both of them. Yeah, Yeah, I think
• 1:12:05
  both teams had a pretty good draft. I think they're smart with especially I
• 1:12:10
  mean, you hope a team's smart with their first round. But I mean,
• 1:12:14
  I think both the Bears and Vikings were given the luxury to have two
• 1:12:18
  first round picks, so that that definitely helps, never hurt to have another
• 1:12:24
  first round pick, And nobody would have expected the Vikings to actually make two
• 1:12:28
  selections in the first round. Very true, Very true. Either of us
• 1:12:31
  expected it. I fully expected them to have to package their next three or
• 1:12:36
  four first round picks to get up to number three or number four or number
• 1:12:41
  five, however much it would have taken. And they didn't have to do
• 1:12:44
  that. So I'm happy. So let's let's give a letter grade to this
• 1:12:49
  beer. Here we remind our audience quickly. While we've been drinking, we've
• 1:12:56
  had the great revivalist Peach Wrangler, which is a sour ale with peaches.
• 1:13:03
  You know, if you didn't join us at the beginning, maybe rewind go
• 1:13:08
  back to the beginning, and we had the cans wrapped in tinfoil. Austin
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  so artfully concealed the identity of the beer and had Forrest and I guess what
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  we were drinking. And it took us a little bit. Kind of you
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  kind of nailed it to begin with, like imediately peach, and then you
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  immediately said it's a fruited sour and then you kind of talked yourself into other
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  ideas a little bit, but initially you kind of nailed it. And it
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  would have been totally unfair to expect you to get the brewery right away,
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  you know, and not to get us off topic. But have you ever
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  done the skintll test where you've blindfolded and try it taste it. I have
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  done that. It's this is kind of the same thing. You get an
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  idea and then all of a sudden, I don't know what happens with your
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  taste buds. Your mind starts like playing tricks on it. I mean,
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  you don't know what's behind the curtains. So yeah, trying to think,
• 1:14:05
  trying to think what else it could be. So anyways, now that we've
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  nearly finished a few each, what do you think letter grade on the beer?
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  And be honest, I'm gonna give it a solid a minus and only
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  because of me and not the beer. And I'm being unfair. I'm not
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  a sour guy, but I like it. It's not an offensive flavor.
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  It's not like too vinegary or too pucker y. You nailed it with your
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  first maybe even before you you tasted it. You smelled it, smell it,
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  and then and then my palate failed me. I'm not a fruity candy
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  guy, but one fruity candy I do like. Are those peach rings the
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  like gummy peach rings. Peach might be the flavor of sours for me,
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  that might be it so a min in the absolute best way possible for me,
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  I'm going to go, well, I'm going to give it two different
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  grades because I think we have two different things going on. I think in
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  the sour category of the sours I've had, I would give it a solid
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  A. So I would bump it up even a little bit higher than you
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  would in the category because I typically don't gravitate towards hours either. They're not
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  my favorite in terms of beer. But this one's pretty good, and I
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  agree with you. I like peach. I mentioned bush Light and the peach
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  bush Light earlier. It's a good beer. I like it. It's not
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  what I grab every time, but you know, especially spring and summer,
• 1:15:48
  looking for something fruitier, it's not a bad choice. And so to have
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  a sour with this peach flavor, and to be on the milder side of
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  the hours we mentioned. It's not in your face, it's not intense,
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  it's not super sour. It's not like drinking a warhead where your lips are
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  like like inside out because your lips are so puckered up. This this is
• 1:16:14
  a good sour. I like it. I will give it an A on
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  just a full spectrum of all the beers I've had in my life. I'm
• 1:16:21
  gonna go with a solid B on this one because I don't gravitate towards sours.
• 1:16:29
  I still I just I can't get behind the vinegary flavors. I can
• 1:16:33
  have a few, but it's just it's not something that I will like readily
• 1:16:40
  reach for at the store. If we ever go to Great Revivalists as a
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  show in front of the show trip, You're probably not going to order the
• 1:16:50
  peach sour. I'm probably not. I'm gonna look for an amber or I'm
• 1:16:54
  gonna look for an I p A. I'm gonna look than they do,
• 1:16:58
  and we've had something. So this isn't a knock against the brewery. It's
• 1:17:01
  not even a knock against the beer, because again I think in the category
• 1:17:04
  it's a really good beer. But just because I don't like sours, they're
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  not my top preference. Solid B. Sure, okay, solid B.
• 1:17:15
  I like it. Now I'm probably gonna be the negative Nancy here. I
• 1:17:21
  honestly I think the beer is fine as as a drink through it all.
• 1:17:30
  I am a sour guy. I like I like sours. I've had a
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  lot of hours. I think for me, it's it falls a little too
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  light for a flavor profile. The sourness is there, and I think they
• 1:17:46
  got that down, but I would really like to get a little more fruit
• 1:17:50
  flavor. I've had you know, fruit sours where you poured it and it's
• 1:17:56
  thick, you know, and you really get that that fruit flavor where I
• 1:18:00
  feel like it's it's they it's like an imitation flavoring in my mind. So
• 1:18:06
  I'm not knocking it to the point I do. I do enjoy the beer
• 1:18:12
  as a whole, so i'd give it. I'll give it a BEE minus.
• 1:18:16
  But from a category of a sour, I'm on the opposite. I'd
• 1:18:20
  probably from a sour perspective, I'm probably gonna give it probably like a C
• 1:18:26
  plus, just because I think there are much better fruited sours out there from
• 1:18:31
  my perspective, So you would tend to go towards that ones, those ones
• 1:18:35
  that kind of taste like a warhead or well, no, you know,
• 1:18:40
  I really I really need to. I will, I will say go.
• 1:18:45
  And I'm once again I'm not trying to knock brewery for brewery. I like
• 1:18:49
  great revivalists find I've had a lot of their beers when we were in Clinton.
• 1:18:54
  I think their beer is good. I think they maybe are not as
• 1:18:59
  seasoned to make a good fruited sour. So my recommendation would be to try
• 1:19:03
  Big Groves fruited sours and try it tastes the difference. I think Big Grove
• 1:19:11
  has just i'd say more seasons to perfect that. Sure, and you you
• 1:19:15
  probably will taste a difference. What I'm trying to say is you'll get more
• 1:19:20
  of that fruit flavor depending on what you get. So yeah, Well,
• 1:19:26
  as someone who I've had the bud Light Peach and enjoyed it, it's nice,
• 1:19:30
  it's refreshing. If you gave me after having these, if you gave
• 1:19:33
  me the choice of this or the bud Light Peach, I'm going to thoroughly
• 1:19:38
  enjoy drinking many of these, or you know, a responsible amount of these.
• 1:19:44
  This is light and refreshing, and I think in the same way that
• 1:19:46
  you're kind of knocking it as a sour, I think the light and refreshingness
• 1:19:50
  is kind of shielding my non sour loving person. And that's the beauty of
• 1:19:57
  it is it can hit on those those types of spectrums for for a gateway
• 1:20:03
  type sour where you're not fully into it. This would be a better one
• 1:20:09
  for those people that are just now really getting into sours. And I would
• 1:20:13
  definitely recommend this for that. Like if if this one we're any more in
• 1:20:18
  your face with the peachy or the salary, if it were any pucker year,
• 1:20:24
  if I just made up a word, I don't know if I'd like
• 1:20:26
  it so much. So I think we're both saying the same things. It's
• 1:20:30
  just our personal personal preference, absolutely, and that's that's the beauty of a
• 1:20:33
  beer is and that's why I love all the different varieties of it. There's
• 1:20:39
  a beer for everybody. Absolutely, that is true. That is true.
• 1:20:43
  Well, uh, you could give us a letter grade to those of you
• 1:20:46
  listening. You can, you can be honest with us, You can tell
• 1:20:49
  us enough hopefully on a Vikings podcast what are you doing here? Man?
• 1:20:57
  But we would we would love for you to interact with us. Yeah,
• 1:21:00
  I mean, we'll be satisfied with like D plus C minus work. And
• 1:21:04
  I just love to know if anybody is listening, So that would that would
• 1:21:08
  make us happy to know what what we would get in terms of a letter
• 1:21:14
  grade. And if people are out there listening to us. That would that
• 1:21:15
  would just fill our bucket a little bit. And you can literally give us
• 1:21:20
  a grade by giving us a review on any Apple or Spotify or any anywhere
• 1:21:27
  you're listening to us. I think YouTube. Can you review? On YouTube?
• 1:21:30
  You can definitely like each video, so you can just hit the thumbs
• 1:21:32
  up button. And I don't know if you can do that on our channel
• 1:21:36
  or not. I don't know sure, I know that, I'm sure you
• 1:21:40
  can. We should, We should probably know that as content creators on the
• 1:21:44
  internet, but we'll research that. We'll get back to you on that.
• 1:21:47
  But either way, you can find us pretty much anywhere. Yeah, just
• 1:21:50
  google us. We have a website, we have every social media. Ye
• 1:21:54
  can find us. We're out there and hopefully you like us. Yeah,
• 1:21:59
  check us out and share us with your friends. If you know a Vikings
• 1:22:01
  fan out there, just hit the share button share this with them. Or
• 1:22:06
  if you know somebody that really likes beer, maybe they're not a Vikings fan.
• 1:22:10
  You don't have to be a Vikings fan. Yeah, that's true.
• 1:22:13
  Forrest listens to more episodes than he doesn't, and that that makes me feel
• 1:22:16
  good. Yeah, it makes me feel good too. I love you guys,
• 1:22:21
  well, I know you're embarrassment. It's been It's been fun. I
• 1:22:25
  liked this mystery beer game, having this tinfoil wrapped beer. It was fun.
• 1:22:30
  We'll definitely have to do that. Oh yeah, we'll do this a
• 1:22:31
  lot more. And uh, the beer was actually pretty good, So thank
• 1:22:35
  you for bringing that. And thank you to a great Revivalist for making a
• 1:22:40
  good beer, a tolerable sour that I can actually put down on my own
• 1:22:45
  in the best way. I would call it a tolerable sour for people that
• 1:22:48
  don't love sours. All in all in love and all in good faith.
• 1:22:53
  So thanks for that, and thanks for Forrest for joining us and talking again
• 1:22:57
  draft and hopefully this Michigan kid turns out to be something good for the Vist.
• 1:23:02
  Like I said, I am going to be rooting hard for JJ and
• 1:23:08
  rooting that your defense really sucks. Well Dallas Turner is going to have something
• 1:23:12
  to say about that, so it won't be hard to root against him.
• 1:23:15
  The Alabama guys, all right, right well, and hey, maybe the
• 1:23:18
  Vikings current defensive coordinator will be the bears next head coach or whatever, because
• 1:23:23
  you know that head coach he's not Everfluce is not long for the Bears probably
• 1:23:27
  never know. A fun little fact that I just realized this week while we
• 1:23:33
  were kind of preparing for this episode. We're closing in on a year.
• 1:23:36
  Yeah, oh we are, so our Twitter account is over a year old.
• 1:23:42
  But I don't know when our first our first episode, I'm pretty sure
• 1:23:45
  came out in May. Okay, so our first skull Hop episode. Yeah,
• 1:23:49
  the first official released episode that we put out to the public came out
• 1:23:55
  nearly a year ago. It's April twenty ninth as of the recording of this
• 1:23:58
  episode. So next week we're going to be celebrating one year and tapping our
• 1:24:02
  beer and tapping our beer, which we will have some footage of as well.
• 1:24:06
  I'm excited on at least YouTube, perhaps other places, but for sure
• 1:24:12
  YouTube. So check us out there. And yeah, we're excited about this
• 1:24:16
  beer that we created and we're excited to share made the recipe. Yes,
• 1:24:20
  you guys all, we all, we all created it. We're excited to
• 1:24:25
  just tap it and enjoy it the three of us and our families and share
• 1:24:28
  share it with others. Yeah, and some friends will be there as well,
• 1:24:30
  so I hope we have enough. Yeah, that'll be fun. It'll
• 1:24:33
  be a good night, and uh yeah, we'll definitely have some footage of
• 1:24:36
  that, along with footage of the brew process in the episode where we tried
• 1:24:42
  it for the first time and all of that. We'll put all that together,
• 1:24:45
  put that out as kind of a special release in addition to our weekly
• 1:24:48
  episodes. But yeah, I can't wait, so I'm going to look forward
• 1:24:53
  to and yeah, all right, boys, it was a good episode.
• 1:24:58
  Thanks for coming on for us, Open door anytime, Thank you, Thank
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