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Chaim Bloom To Replace John Mozeliak For 2025? · Kenny Wallace Media

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In Bob Nightingale's report, he writes, and this is the direct
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couple sentences here. While John Mozelock, president
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of baseball operations for the Saint Louis Cardinals, plans to
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step down after the 2025 season, special assistant Heim Bloom is
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expected to have much greater authority next season, perhaps
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even become the top baseball decision maker.
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So look, I think this is really smart if that's what happens for
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the Cardinals, OK? And a lot of people, we've
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talked about this basically all season long on this channel when
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I was doing the show low hanging fruit with Brendan Schaefer.
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Look, we all know John Mozelock is under contract through 2025.
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You have Heimbloom there. He's a guy who if he wants to be
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a a chief baseball decision maker, whatever that title is,
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whether it's a president of baseball OPS, general manager,
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different teams have different titles.
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But what I'm trying to say is I think it's fair to say this is a
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coveted guy, right? So if he's going to be the
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Cardinals top executive in the future, there are other teams
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that would want his services as well.
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And so this offseason, if there are other teams and they're
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saying, hey, we want to interview Heim Bloom this and
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that, it makes total sense for the Cardinals to just set up
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this succession plan for John Mosaic.
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And look, this is something that all smart businesses do, right?
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We're focusing on baseball, but look at other sports.
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But look at just businesses in general, right?
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If you have ACEO or ACFO or whatever it is, often times that
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person doesn't just boom, retire and then they have an open, open
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interview session to replace that person.
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That's not that's not how it works with big time businesses
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and corporations. And that's what we're talking
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about with the Saint Louis Cardinals.
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We're talking about a billion dollar industry of baseball and
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it's a huge job. It is a big time job.
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It is a coveted job to be the chief decision maker of the
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baseball OPS department. Whatever that title is right
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now, it's president of baseball operations for John Mosaic.
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So it makes total sense to set up that succession plan, right?
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Like the show succession, great show.
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So look, here's here's what you do.
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And I think it makes total sense.
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I think it should happen. I'm not saying it's going to
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happen, but I think this also makes total sense.
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Basically, John Mosaic doesn't have to retire a year early.
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They can come out, they can make an announcement and they can say
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something like this. Look, Heim Bloom is going to be
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our top baseball executive moving forward, starting
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specifically in 2026, but he's going to have a much larger role
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in 2025. And John Mosaic, who is still
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under contract, is going to be there to help him.
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And look, it doesn't even matter how you write the press release,
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OK? I think Heimbloom should be the
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chief baseball decision maker in 2025, and maybe he will be.
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But also, we know John Mosaic has been here a long time with
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the Cardinals, essentially his entire adult life.
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We're talking 30 years. The wits love him.
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And I know a lot of people like to bag on John Mosaic and I've
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criticized him, I think fairly a lot over the last several years.
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But let's also remember that John Mosaic has done a lot more
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good than bad big picture with the Cardinals.
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I know the first half of his tenure much better than the
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second-half. And look, there's, there's a lot
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of personnel decisions developing who to trade, who to
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keep, all those types of things, puzzling roster moves in terms
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of sending guys down, bringing them back up and all that.
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And, and we'll get into all that.
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But I, I think it's also fair to say big picture, John Mosaic has
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been good for the Cardinals for his entire tenure.
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On a, on a personal note, John Mosaic always was very good and
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fair to me. And anytime I've ever criticized
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John Mosaic, it's never been, it's never been personal at all.
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We're just talking baseball here.
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Baseball's big business in Saint Louis.
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It's a huge deal. It's a huge job.
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And look, when John Mosaic was great for the 1st 810, whatever
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years, I mean, we all just gave the man glowing compliments and
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he was the toast of the town. He was the toast of baseball.
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He was one of the top executives in all of baseball.
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I remember some some some different surveys and all that
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back in the day where he was right up there, top 123,
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whatever it was in baseball. If you look at the run,
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obviously from 11:12, 13/14/15 when the Cardinals had great
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success. I remember seeing a survey
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earlier this year where they asked who's the top baseball
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executive and somebody let me know.
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I think it was, I think it was, I can't remember who did the
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survey. Maybe the Athletic let let me
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know. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I
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don't think John Mosaic was in the top 16 of baseball execs for
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that same type of survey that was out there this year.
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So I'm going on a tangent. What I'm saying though, is this
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is how a smart business, this is how a smart baseball OPS
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department should run. They should set up the plan.
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They should give the guy a year buffer with Mosaic helping out,
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even if Hein Bloom is going to be the man next year.
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John Mosaic can step aside a little bit, but still be there.
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I mean, there's a lot of things John Mosaic knows about the
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Cardinals and and look, maybe he has input to on we should keep
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these guys or some other people that maybe need to move on.
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We need to do less analytics, more analytics, our field staff
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this and that. It just makes perfect sense.
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Look at the Saint Louis Blues, by the way, look at the
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announcement they made. Was it earlier this year?
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My, my concept of time is, is not great anymore.
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I'm blaming COVID for that, but when they made their
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announcement about Alexander Steen, they essentially set up
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the succession plan for Doug Armstrong.
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And I don't remember the exact specifics.
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I listened and watched the press conference, but I think it was
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something like, look, whatever Steen's title is right now with
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the Blues assistant to the general manager, whatever it is,
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I don't know exactly what it is. I can look it up, but you know,
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it's something like that. And then he's going to basically
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take over as general manager and take that off the plate of Doug
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Armstrong, whose title is the president of hockey operations,
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but also general manager. And then obviously you would
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assume that down the road, Alexanderstein takes over the
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chief decision making job of the Saint Louis Blues, whatever that
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is, however long that contract is for, for Doug Armstrong 345
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years from now. Again, I, I don't remember the
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exact specifics, I'm going off the cuff here, but it's
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something like that. So I think it makes perfect
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sense. Again, if this is true, if this
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is the way it's going for the Cardinals and some people just
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jumping on now we have 49 people watching live.
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I appreciate that. So just to to catch you back up
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to speed as we're 11 minutes in here, Bob Nightingale wrote a
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little blurb, USA TODAY. And he said while John Mosaic,
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president of baseball operations for the Saint Louis Cardinals,
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plans to step down after the 2025 season, which we all knew,
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by the way, the question is more about what happens for 2025.
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So special assistant Heimbloom is expected to have much greater
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authority next season, perhaps even become the top baseball
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decision maker. That's from Bob Nightingale.
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I hope that happens. I think it makes the most sense
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to happen like that again. Other teams are going to want to
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hire Heimbloom. And look, we talked about this a
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lot on our radio show when we had one.
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But, you know, I don't think this was this.
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This wasn't this big conspiracy theory about about Heimbloom.
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Heimbloom fell into the lap of the Saint Louis Cardinals at the
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perfect time when the succession plan was already starting,
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right. And and when it first was
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announced that John Mosaic said, look, I'm going to be here three
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more years, so go back. That's what was it, 232425 S
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spring training 2023, I believe. And he says I'm going to be here
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three more years. OK.
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And then so you're thinking, all right, so 2026 you would think
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there's going to be a new top decision maker for the
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Cardinals. And we all wondered and
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speculated could it be Michael Gersh?
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Could it be Randy Flores, whatever it is.
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OK, so that's spring training 2023.
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Then go to last year basically where the Red Sox fire
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Heimbloom. And remember, Heimbloom was very
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good with the Tampa Bay Rays on a budget.
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We know the Cardinals like to operate their team on a budget,
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not to the level of the Rays, but like they like to be
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fiscally responsible, draft and develop.
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Heimbloom is also known as a pitching guru and a bullpen
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guru. And the Cardinals bullpen has
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been very good this year. Basically the bright spot of the
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of the team, Helsley leading the way, but also some other guys,
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you know, Ryan Fernandez, that you didn't necessarily expect to
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have big time years out there. And I'm not even trying to give
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all that credit to Heimbloom. Obviously, Ryan Helsley's is the
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main reason then. Ryan Helsley's been here for a
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long time before Heimbloom. I'm just saying, generally
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speaking, Heimbloom is known as a pitching guru, a guy who's
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able to locate, develop and assess pitching and to do it on
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a budget. When I say a budget, look, the
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Cardinals spent around whatever it is, $200 million.
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But the Cardinals aren't a team that want to go out there and
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give the $200 million contracts in free agencies.
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So it makes sense. Look, if I'm high and bloom, I'm
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like, I was working on a budget with the Rays and now I have
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another smart baseball operation.
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Typically, look, the Cardinals, Dewitz, Mosaic, big picture are
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usually a very smart and well run baseball OPS department.
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It has not been that way for the last couple three years.
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Whatever you want to go back to some of the bad trades.
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I agree with you, but usually the Cardinals are a well run
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baseball OPS department. So I think it's a perfect fit.
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What I'm trying to say is look, if you go back 2 1/2 years or
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whatever it was spring training of 2023, the Cardinals probably
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thought, I'm guessing the Dewitts thought or Mosaic
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thought it's going to be a Gersh or maybe Randy Flores replacing
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John Mosaic. Maybe we stay in house.
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I think it also it it's pretty obvious the Cardinals have in
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house issues for drafting, developing, decision making.
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I think it makes sense even if it wasn't Heimbloom, and who
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knows, maybe it's not. Even if it wasn't Heimbloom, I
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think it makes total sense for the Cardinals to go outside of
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the organization for this position.
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That's no disrespect to Gersh, Randy Flores, like both those
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guys, respect both those guys. I think this organization needs
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outside eyes and I'm including Heimbloom, even though he's in
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the organization right now as outside eyes because he just
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jumped in here as an advisor the last year or so, right?
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He's he's outside eyes. He comes from different
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organizations, Rays, Red Sox, here he is.
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So I think this makes total sense.
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If it goes this way, I think it's the way it should go.
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And also Cardinal fans right now want blood.
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And I hate to say that because I do like John Mosaic.
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I respect John Mosaic, but I, I think for ticket purchases, I
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think for momentum rolling into 2025, there does have to be some
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type of announcement of, of bigger change.
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And I think this would be enough if, and again, I don't care
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exactly how you write the press release, right?
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You don't have to disrespect John Mosaic.
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But if the understanding is that John Mosaic is sticking around,
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but Heimbloom has much more authority and it's a timeshare
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or he's the chief decision maker, Heimbloom, I think that
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makes a lot of sense. And I think that appeases a lot
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of fans. By the way, you shouldn't
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necessarily always make decisions to appease fans, but I
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think the fans are actually right this time.
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The fans were were more accurate than the media, by the way, I
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think, look, I said I can't remember what I thought the
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Cardinals were going to win 8283 games.
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I I said shot at the playoffs. A big part of that is I think
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most people thought the Brewers were going to be worse, but I
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had so many comments here on YouTube and Twitter and people
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said they're not going to be good, they're not going to be
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good. And again, your definition of
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good Right now, I think they're on pace to win 82 games to go 82
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and 80. So they're not bad, they don't
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suck, they're not great. They're mediocre, they're
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average. They're fine.
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Whatever your your your term is for good or your win total.
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The Cardinals, they're OK, right?
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They're decent. Are they good if they finish
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with 82 wins? I don't know.
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I don't even want to get into that semantics argument.
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But what I'm trying to say is it is clear when you watch games,
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when you when you see the pictures.
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And I'm going to go to Bush this weekend at least once, maybe
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twice. So I'll see it up close and
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personal about the lack of fans there.
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And that'll be the final homestand of the season.
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And I'm going there to see my buddy Dan Puente, who's the
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assistant hitting coach of the Guardians.
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I'm just saying that because I'm not, I'm not really going to
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watch the Cardinals. And look, any other year you'd
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be super excited to watch the Cardinals late September final
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homestand. Even if they weren't going to
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make the playoffs, if they had a shot at the playoffs, those
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games will be packed. People would be excited.
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Or you're getting ready for an October in Saint Louis playoff
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baseball. So look, the fans want blood,
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they want change. And I think a lot of them want
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John Mosaic to step aside. I think it's enough.
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That doesn't mean John Mosaic needs to resign.
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And that's not going to happen. And I don't think, and I don't
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think the dewitzer ever going to fire John Mosaic.
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But I think an announcement needs to be made or an
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understanding needs to be had that John Mosaic is is starting
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the process of stepping down and Heimbloom is going to have a
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huge role in 2025. And then potentially Heimbloom
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takes over full time, whatever that title is, president of
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baseball operations in 2026. So there you go.
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Have a ton of questions, comments.
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I purposely didn't read all of your questions and comments
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because I want to do my little rant, my little spiel there.
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And I think I touched on everything that I wanted to
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discuss, which basically is this is smart.
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If it happens, it's the right thing to do for any baseball
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team, any sports organization. The Blues just did this with
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Alexander Steen. Any company, any successful
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corporation, doesn't matter if you're the Fortune 500 company
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or you're a small own family business, right?
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If somebody's getting ready to retire, they say, hey, maybe I
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have 2-3 more years left, hey, let's elevate this guy into Co
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VP or CFO, whatever in the plan is for him or her, whoever it is
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to take over when I officially retire two or three years from
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now. So there you go.
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OK, let's go to some questions. Comments, by the way, of course,
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beautiful Fenton, MO OK, here we go.
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Sandwich man. Bernie has been talking about
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Bloom for a hot minute. I think he'd be a great fresh
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start as president. I agree.
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And and look, Bernie's great. I'm glad that Bernie's on
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YouTube also. I think it's a great move for
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him. His baseball content is top
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notch. I always said that when we were
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teammates at 590, the Fan and a lot of his content, we put it on
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this channel here as well and some other 590 content.
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Yeah, look, this is not exactly breaking news.
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I think most people thought this would be the way the Cardinals
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would go, especially with the team trending down the last
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couple years. Look, if the Cardinals would
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have been winning 95 plus games and making a couple deep playoff
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runs, folks wouldn't be saying we need to go outside the
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organization, right? Because the thought would be,
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hey, this organization is running fine, let's keep it in
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house with the Gersh or Randy Flores.
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Last year was awful. This year's very mediocre.
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There's a downward trend. I don't like to always say it's
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a downward trend since 2015 because it's almost like look
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2013, right? Cardinals make the World Series
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2014 NLCS 2015 hundred wins playoffs then they had the three
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years they don't make the playoffs 2019 they make the
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NLCS. It hasn't been good since some
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playoff runs. But when I say runs, I mean just
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a series out quick. But it's a downward trend.
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Whether you want to say for a decade or five years, whatever
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it is, I don't want to argue with that.
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It's something there. But it's a downward trend.
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And the Cardinals should go outside of the organization.
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And Bloom fell right into their lap during this succession plan.
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As soon as I say, is it succession, not like you're
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seceding from the Union like it's the Civil War, OK, I don't
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speak perfectly. And plus, like I said, I'm a
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little under the weather. OK, I'm going to blame it on
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that sandwich, man. Heck yeah.
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Let's see. Arthur J Judah.
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I can't wait. I think that's MO has to go.
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Please. Yeah, Look, I get it.
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I'm not. I'm not mad at MO.
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I like MO personally. I think he's been more good than
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bad, for sure. Help his team win a World
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Series, Bunch of deep playoff runs.
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I think it's time to move on. It's time to pass the baton.
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It happens, man. This is professional sports.
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You know what? Everybody will be a little butt
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hurt for a year or two. Everybody will forget.
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Couple years later, John Mosaic comes back, throws out the first
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pitch, does all the interviews. Everybody remembers the good
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times. This is big business, people.
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It's sports. This is how it is, right?
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Look, the Blues member Doug Armstrong had to fire Ken
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Hitchcock and Ken Hitchcock didn't want to be fired.
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They're still buddies. Ken Hitchcock came back to be
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part of the organization as an advisor.
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This is how it works, man. This is how it works.
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It's the big leagues, man. To quote the late, great Tim
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McCarver. Let's see, sandwich man, could
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Doug Armstrong just switch from Blues to Cardinals in two years?
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How about that? You want Doug Armstrong with a
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great hockey background to just start being a baseball guy?
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Hey, I like outside the box thinking.
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I'm sorry MO, but professional differences have developed.
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And retire this year or you're fired.
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He deserves no more than Schilt received.
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OK, I do think Schilt was done dirty.
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I don't think it was 100% not on Schilt.
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I think Schilt played a role there.
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But yeah, I get that a lot of people didn't like the way
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Schultz was treated. That's fair sandwich man.
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I just think the MO fatigue with fans is too great to keep him as
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the top guy. I agree it sends the wrong
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message to the fans. I agree an announcement needs to
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be made, a press release. I don't care how you write it,
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you don't disrespect the man. You honor what he did.
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You say he's sticking around. Heimbloom is going to have more
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authority. Whatever it is, let the fans
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know a change has been made. Let's see, Doctor Zoom, he
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inherited a great franchise that Jockey and Luno built while
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Jockey and Jeff Luno. Yeah, I mean, John Mosaic was
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really good too, though. And I understand you can say,
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OK, once Luno left in those drafts went away, the product
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got worse. That's fair.
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That's fair. I think John Mosaic, John Mosaic
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made a lot of good decisions for the 1st 10 years or so, last
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five to seven. Not a lot of great ones, but
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some good ones. I mean look are not a trade.
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Goldie trade even this season, even this season I I thought
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they they needed another front end starting pitcher.
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But Sonny Gray, you like that one of Kyle Gibson or Lance Lynn
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was good. They needed another top end guy.
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But this season was more about the offense crapping the bed for
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the first month or so. It's hard to blame Mosaic Lock
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for that. There's a lot of things you can
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blame Mosaic Lock on 4:00 and also big picture
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organizationally, look, there's a clear trend of of position
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players especially leaving this organization and being much
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better elsewhere. Cardinals have not been good the
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last five to seven years at picking the right, especially
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outfielders to keep and who to trade.
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Let's be real about that. We all know that Seth B, he's
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officially a special assistant. Basically, he's being trained to
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be the GM. I think you're talking about
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Alexander Steen there my previous comment.
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Bill Downton. He is the second longest running
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pobo in baseball. Only Cashman at New York has
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been longer. How about Cashman?
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Also, when's the last time Cashman and the Yankees won a
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World Series? Is it 2009?
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Sometimes you got to shake it up.
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I'm not saying that Brian Cashman has been bad.
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Yankees are usually good. But it's been a long time since
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the New York Yankees won a World Series. 2009, right?
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15 years. I mean, they're usually good.
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Let's see. Hold on, sandwich, man.
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One time I was driving down 44, and I look in my rearview mirror
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and a big red Jeep is about two feet off my tailgate.
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It was none other than John Mosaic.
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True story. I don't know if that's AI
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believe you, but I'm not going to get into these people's
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driving habits, OK? I need to read these before I
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put them on, just in case you guys don't defame someone or or
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curse. We can't.
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We can't be demonetized. We need to make money on these
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videos. Part of that fried bank, Saint
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Louis lawn care, Saint Louis equipment, corner butcher and
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chop house in Fenton. OK, here we go.
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Jeffrey Jordan. Is that Michael Jordan's son?
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Is that the one that was in trouble with the remember that
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recently? I'm sure it's not this guy.
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I thank the Cardinals very much for firing Mike Schilt.
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He's a great manager and has done an outstanding job with the
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San Diego Padres. This comment comes from a
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native, Sandy Eggin and a Padres fan.
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Thank you, Jeffrey Jordan. Let's see.
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Here we go. Mark Canapa.
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Canapa. Canapa.
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Charlie, given my 40 years experience in change management
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and strategic planning, this transition plan makes perfect
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sense. A good business move in my
23:08
opinion. We need real change.
23:10
We need real change. I agree.
23:11
Yeah, it makes perfect sense. Baseball business?
23:13
Yes for sure flying Navy 73 DeWitt is a bigger problem than
23:18
MO. He is the one who decided to cut
23:21
costs by stripping minor league infrastructure.
23:23
He is the one that has allowed every aspect of the team
23:25
organization to deteriorate. I'm not even to say this.
23:29
I heard a a rumor at the gym about Cardinals ownership.
23:34
I'm not even to say I shouldn't even have brought it up.
23:38
Basically, the the rumor was of a change of ownership of the
23:42
Cardinals, which I don't think actually is going to happen.
23:45
So I shouldn't even have brought it up.
23:46
But it came from somebody who says he knows people, so I'm not
23:50
even getting to the specifics. You wonder if I'm the Dewitt's
23:54
Bill the third is a young guy. Doesn't he want to keep the
23:57
franchise? I would think keep it in the
23:58
family. Yeah.
24:00
I don't know. I don't know any of these
24:01
things. All right, here we go.
24:05
Doctor Zoom. 82 wins is bad for this franchise.
24:08
That's fair. We have a higher bar in the loo,
24:11
and we should. Let's see.
24:13
Sandwich man prolific in his comments.
24:16
I'm OK with them keeping MO around as long as they make it
24:18
clear that Bloom is the new leader.
24:20
I agree. OK the red bird farm hands.
24:24
Is this actually happening or just speculation?
24:26
If you just joined in, I'll say it for the third time.
24:28
And I'm not being sarcastic when I say that because people jump
24:31
in on the live stream. We have 68 people.
24:34
I think that's our top concurrent viewership.
24:37
I was basically reading a Bob Nightingale blurb report,
24:42
whatever you want to call it, I'll read it for the third time.
24:44
I'm not. I'm not trying to be a jerk here
24:46
because I want you guys to know why I'm talking right now.
24:49
So he writes Bob Nightingale USA TODAY.
24:52
While John Mosaic, president of baseball operations for the
24:54
Saint Louis Cardinals, plans to step down after the 2025 season,
24:58
special assistant Heimbloom is expected to have much greater
25:01
authority next season, perhaps even become the top baseball
25:04
decision maker. So I think that's fair to call
25:06
that a report that Heimbloom is expected to have much greater
25:09
authority next season, perhaps even become the top baseball
25:13
decision maker. So, I mean, is it speculation?
25:16
First of all, we've all speculated about it.
25:18
Bob Nightingale's plugged in. I know he's not 100% right.
25:22
I think it's OK to call that a report, right?
25:24
Is that fair, you guys? I'm trying to be fair here.
25:28
Ray Beiersdorf. I'm hoping for a new manager,
25:31
someone from outside the organization.
25:33
Yeah. I don't know.
25:34
I don't think Ollie is the problem.
25:36
I think it's more Dewitt's mosaic.
25:39
I don't think Ollie's done a bad job.
25:41
I mean, this team, they keep fighting, right?
25:44
They haven't quit. I don't think Ollie's
25:47
necessarily a great manager. I don't think he's bad.
25:49
I don't think he's the main problem.
25:50
If they moved on from Ollie, if Heimbloom wanted his own
25:52
manager, I would get that. I'm OK with Ollie coming back
25:56
next year, especially if you change.
25:58
If you change out Mosaic for the most part that's enough change.
26:03
Give Ollie a year. Maybe Hein Bloom likes Ollie, I
26:05
don't know. I don't think Ollie is great.
26:09
I didn't think Ollie should get a contract extension before the
26:11
season. My issues with Ollie I think he
26:14
bungled game one of the play offs couple years ago.
26:18
And I'll say this till I'm blue in the face.
26:21
I I don't think it made any sense to publicly dressed down
26:24
Tyler O'Neill. I thought that was the dumbest
26:25
thing ever. How many homers does Tyler
26:27
O'Neill have? You basically had to trade that
26:29
dude for a bucket of balls. The pitcher you've already
26:32
freaking DFA and I don't remember his name.
26:34
So my two biggest issues with Olive.
26:38
He mangled game one of the playoffs but also does his first
26:40
playoff game. I'm not trying to be unfair,
26:43
right? Taking out Quintana early.
26:46
I think that's judgement call. Fair to criticize.
26:50
And then asking 2 innings from multiple innings from Ryan
26:53
Helsley after you just had the finger issue, right?
26:55
These are 100% and and not having pitchers ready to replace
27:00
Halsey before it was too late and he lost the game.
27:02
I also think, I think Ollie's a little little chirpy in his post
27:07
games, right? But I like that because it's
27:10
entertaining, little condescending here and there,
27:13
which I wouldn't like if it was to me, but it is entertaining.
27:16
So I can't be too mad about that.
27:18
What do you guys think? Like I said, I'm pretty neutral
27:20
on Ollie. Like I'm not anti Ollie, never
27:23
have been. I think I'm pretty fair.
27:26
Let's see, do do, do, do, do, do, Mike.
27:30
Hard to believe MO's ego will let him take a backseat to
27:32
anyone. I don't know.
27:33
I think there is an interview that MO did with Martin Kilcoin
27:38
that we put on this channel. I don't remember when it was.
27:41
So if you want to go back, there was a video interview.
27:43
There was an audio interview. It sounded like John Mozelock
27:46
was ready to step aside. It did.
27:50
It sounded like he was ready for a break.
27:53
He even said something about, you know, being able to take a
27:56
vacation. I, I don't remember the exact
27:58
words. I don't want to.
27:58
I don't want to put words in his mouth, but there was an
28:02
interview that he did with Martin that we put on the
28:04
channel in the last couple months, 2-3 months, and it
28:07
sounded like he was ready to, to step aside and let someone else
28:12
take over. And it's clear the fans want him
28:15
to, right? Like, these are your customers,
28:17
man. I like John Mosaic.
28:19
I think he's done more good than bad.
28:21
But it's time to move on. This is the big leagues.
28:25
This is this is big boy stuff. Sometimes it doesn't work out.
28:28
It worked out for many years. It hasn't worked out for the
28:30
last couple 3 several years, whatever, time to move on.
28:34
John Mosaic, it's all good. I like John Mosaic, it's been
28:38
always been good to me. Sent me a nice text when I got
28:41
out of TV and then every time anytime I see him around the
28:45
ballpark, which is not very often because I don't go very
28:47
much, but he's always friendly. So let's see.
28:51
Couple more comments. Rocking 7.
28:55
When will the team try to get better?
28:59
Great question. I mean for this team to get
29:00
better though, it's about drafting guys and developing
29:04
guys and trading guys in the minor leagues for other guys who
29:09
are going to be great. Cardinals 234 years from now.
29:12
Hopefully the Tink henses and Quinn Matthews step up.
29:19
I still am very high on the Cardinals group of position
29:21
players. These young guys, there's a lot
29:24
of guys with a lot of talent. I don't think they're going to
29:26
have the year next year. They start the year where the
29:28
whole team sucks offensively. I just I can't see that
29:31
happening. Let's see Justin Kramer know
29:35
it's sports hypothesis talking about.
29:39
Is this a report? I mean, Bob Nightingale reported
29:42
this. Everybody speculate about this,
29:44
right? Every.
29:45
I mean, we started talking about when Hein Bloom was announced as
29:51
an advisor, whenever that was. Was that early?
29:57
Was it spring training or winter?
29:58
Whenever it was winter before the season, everyone on earth
30:01
speculated there's a chance. There's a good chance that
30:04
Heimbloom takes over for John Mosaic, whether it was 2026 or
30:08
now, the discussion about will he be the chief decision maker
30:11
2025. All right, here we go.
30:15
Kim Valker. Kim, how are you?
30:16
Kim, the lovely mother of my friend Austin Valker, who used
30:20
to be bored up on the morning after.
30:23
Great family Kim. I'm leaning towards Mark DeRosa.
30:26
Oh for manager. I like that.
30:27
I like Mark DeRosa Dero. Great guy, smart baseball guy,
30:32
fun to be around, good vibes. He's a good vibes guy.
30:37
How about Jackson McNeil? Jackson McNeil doing videos on
30:41
the channel here. Very happy to have Jackson
30:44
McNeil on board. He says the thing this
30:45
organization needs is real change.
30:47
So if Bloom is going to be in charge, he needs to be able to
30:50
hire his guys. That means Gersh Flores aren't
30:52
fits. He needs to bring in new guys.
30:54
I agree with that. I agree with that 100 per cent.
31:00
Mark DeRosa. Why?
31:04
Look, I, I don't think I don't think Ali's the biggest problem,
31:07
but Mark DeRosa is Mark DeRosa is going to be a manager someday
31:12
for somebody. Didn't he interview with the
31:15
Mets couple years back? Was that when Carlos Beltran got
31:19
the job and then everything came out the Astros?
31:21
I think that's the case. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm
31:25
just going off the top of my head.
31:26
And then he managed Team USA in the World Baseball Classic and
31:30
maybe wasn't wasn't the greatest in handling pitching there, if I
31:33
remember if I recall. But I still think Mark DeRosa is
31:37
a great baseball guy. When I say a vibes guy, look, a
31:41
huge part of being a manager now is meeting with the media 5000
31:45
times. These guys do this all the time.
31:47
And it's also a a brain trust between the field staff and the
31:53
front office. I just think Mark DeRosa would
31:56
be good in that sense. Another part is also it's hiring
31:58
good people, right? The Cardinals, the Cardinals
32:01
coaching staff, do they do they add value?
32:06
Remember, a lot of these guys are the guys because other guys
32:11
didn't take the jobs couple years ago.
32:13
If you go back to Mike Maddox leaving relatively unexpectedly,
32:20
Jeff Albert leaving unexpectedly, Matt Holiday
32:23
taking the job and then not taking the job, and everything
32:26
that happened last year at the new coaching staff and then the
32:29
offense was horrible for the first month or so.
32:33
It seemed like it took forever to get guys out of these slumps.
32:37
It does sure seem like every outfielder that leaves Saint
32:40
Louis is much better elsewhere. These are real problems.
32:44
These are real problems for the Cardinals.
32:45
So yes, they got to. They got to change a lot of
32:49
guys. I'm not saying it all has to
32:50
happen this offseason. Maybe it does.
32:53
I think Mosaic needs to hand the baton to balloon this offseason.
32:57
You've already had Gary Larocque retire.
33:00
If that's what he did. I'm not sure.
33:02
I'm not. I'm not an insider.
33:05
I don't even care to ask. I don't want to say I don't
33:07
care, but whatever. Ollie, I actually, I actually
33:14
would would want new offensive staff.
33:16
I'd be fine with Ollie staying and some new hitting coaches.
33:20
Personally, I think that's enough.
33:21
That's enough change, don't you think?
33:24
Let's see, Ollie ain't the solution from Rich Grisham.
33:29
That's fair. I think that's fair.
33:31
I don't think Ollie's also the biggest problem.
33:33
OK, sandwich man. What about poo holes or Yachty
33:37
for manager? Do you see that happening at
33:39
some .0? I mean, I would love that for
33:41
content. I would absolutely love that.
33:44
I mean, Heimbloom. Heimbloom doesn't have the
33:47
relationship with Yachty and Albert that Mosaic did, right?
33:51
Is that something Heimbloom wants to?
33:53
Does he want to start with a beloved generational cardinal
33:58
that has more juice than him? With the fan base in Yachty or
34:01
Albert, that's tough. That's tough.
34:04
Where is Yadi, by the way? The Yadi ever show up?
34:06
That's hilarious. Let's be real.
34:08
It's hilarious that Yadi literally just didn't show up
34:10
all season and he was supposed to be a coach.
34:12
Is that true, Right. Did he ever show up?
34:15
I'll be honest, I have not paid as close attention since the
34:18
Cardinals stopped really being in contention.
34:20
And then once we had the radio show and it ended, obviously
34:23
like every day we're we're watching Cardinals.
34:25
When we had the radio show, I've kind of checked out a bit.
34:28
I blame the Cardinals for that because they're not very good.
34:31
I also blame myself. All right, let's see outside the
34:37
box thinking Charlie Marlow for manager.
34:38
Yes, I agree with that. I'll take the job.
34:42
Charlie is high. Not right now, not right now.
34:48
I'm high on water with a little bit of caffeine.
34:52
See, it's actually purple. You can't see that, but it was
34:55
more purpley until I refilled it.
34:57
Little caffeine boost little packs, guys use those.
34:59
I'm a big fan of those. Let's see Jackson coming back.
35:02
Oh, hold on. Not sure Yachty is a fit.
35:06
The team couldn't get him to show up, do his job all season.
35:08
Yes. And that's hilarious, by the
35:09
way. Like, it's hilarious.
35:10
Come on. I love Yachty.
35:12
It's hilarious that he essentially forced John Mosaic
35:16
to give him a job because he did some interviews with, I think,
35:20
Puerto Rican press and said, yeah, I expect to have a job.
35:22
And then John Mosaic was like, well, we hadn't really talked
35:25
about it. And then a couple days later,
35:26
there was a press release of Yachty being a special assistant
35:30
who literally didn't show up the entire year.
35:32
That's hilarious, folks, that's hilarious.
35:36
If you can't find the humor in that, there's something wrong
35:38
with you. That is one of the most
35:40
hilarious things ever, that Yadi, essentially, I don't know
35:43
what he's paid. I don't even remember what his
35:45
title is. Yadi got a job, forced his way
35:48
in, which is great. I would do the same if I was
35:50
Yadi. And Yadi, he has so much juice
35:52
with the fan base. Yadi can do whatever he wants.
35:54
It's amazing. Remember, like his last year, he
35:58
went and he did the basketball thing with his team in Puerto
36:01
Rico. No one called him out.
36:03
And look at Ollie. Did Ollie call him out?
36:05
By the way? No, you can't call out Yadi.
36:07
You can call it Tyler O'Neill for running 93% of his top
36:11
speed, but Yadi can do whatever he wants.
36:13
And honestly, I don't even care. It's hilarious.
36:15
It's it's freaking hilarious that Yadi Yadi or Molina did not
36:19
show up all season. It's just amazing.
36:21
And it's a microcosm of what's going on in the organization the
36:23
last couple years. It's just amazingly funny.
36:27
OK, let's see. Oh, Charlie is high.
36:32
This is what Rich is saying. That was in regard to the
36:34
Ollie's not the problem coming. I get it.
36:36
I don't think Ollie's great. He's not the biggest problem.
36:39
Change Mozelaq, change drafting, developing offensive staff.
36:45
I think you can win with Ollie. I'm not saying Ollie is Terry
36:48
Francona and and get rid of Ollie.
36:51
I don't care. I really don't.
36:52
I don't think Ollie is great or bad.
36:55
I think he's fine. Maybe he'll be great, I don't
36:59
know. I just don't think he's the
37:00
biggest problem. Let's see Danny Boy, the Iowan,
37:03
the higher balloon. Watch out for Rocco Baldelli as
37:06
the next Cardinals manager. Justin Kramer.
37:11
Whatever happened with a kendo with Jose Oquendo the secret
37:15
weapon? I always wanted to see Oquendo
37:16
get a shot, even if it was an interim.
37:19
I always wanted to see Oquendo get that shot, even if it was
37:22
for half a season as a as an interim manager.
37:25
Never happened. Rich Grisham, the Cardinal
37:29
organization has a traded places with the Blues organization.
37:32
Yeah, but neither. Look, I love these teams, but
37:36
neither have been very great the last couple years.
37:41
I think it's fair to say the Blues.
37:44
Cam Jansen said this when we did a live stream.
37:46
I do think the Blues have at least a plan in place that you
37:49
can believe it, right. But also, if the Blues paid all
37:55
that money, if, if Jordan Kairu is never a really, really
37:59
amazing winning player with a salary cap, it's going to be
38:03
hard to really win at a high level.
38:05
But I think, I think it's fair to say I believe in the Blues
38:08
plan right now more. I believe in Doug Armstrong.
38:11
Big picture, he hasn't made the greatest moves the last several
38:15
years either. As his first 5-10, whatever it
38:18
is, he brought a cup here. We'll never forget that, but I
38:22
think I believe in the Blues plan more.
38:24
That being said, if the Cardinals move forward and and
38:27
the press release comes out, Heim Bloom stepping up whatever
38:32
the new title is, John Mosaic stepping aside a little bit, I
38:35
will believe in the Cardinals plan much more when they make
38:39
that announcement. Is that fair?
38:42
OK, let's see, here we go. Sandwich man.
38:46
As soon as Bloom takes over, Ollie will be gone.
38:49
Just wouldn't make sense to keep him as manager then.
38:50
I don't know. Still a little under the
38:55
weather. I apologize for that.
38:56
I don't know. I don't know how I I have no
38:58
idea how Hein Bloom feels about Ollie.
39:00
I don't even pretend I'm not an insider.
39:02
I'm never at the at the at the field.
39:06
They don't even give Youtubers. I'm a YouTube.
39:08
They don't give, even if you have millions, you could have
39:10
millions of people that watch your channel and they don't give
39:13
you credentials because MLB, MLB is stuck in the Stone Age when
39:18
it comes to media. They don't understand that
39:20
podcast and YouTube and digital media are arguably, I don't want
39:25
to say more important, but right up there, right up there in
39:28
terms of eyeballs, listens and all that.
39:30
It's just true. It's just true.
39:33
Let's see, here we go. Sandwich, man.
39:37
The Blues have a plan. They seem way more transparent
39:39
with the fans. That's true.
39:41
Blues have always been better about just directly because
39:44
Armstrong's like that. He speaks directly.
39:46
He's like, hey, I'm good, I suck, whatever.
39:48
I've been bad. Management's been bad, coaching
39:51
staff been bad, players been bad.
39:52
He's a straight shooter. John Mosaic's a pretty honest
39:55
guy also. I think that's.
39:58
I think it's fair to say. Yeah.
40:02
Yeah. Let's see, Rich, the Blues will
40:05
surprise you this year. I hope you are right, Mike.
40:08
I think the secret weapon should have gotten the job after Larusa
40:10
retired. Sure.
40:12
Hey. You can go back in time and it's
40:15
a great hypothetical. I have no idea.
40:17
Metheny inherited a great team, won a lot of games, deep playoff
40:22
runs. But I think you could have done
40:25
better than Metheny. That's certainly fair to say.
40:28
Let's see Mitchell Baquette. Don't think the team will be
40:32
good next year, but if MO actually leaves I think they got
40:34
to just clean house, including Ollie.
40:36
Not that it's his fault. Dewitt's got to get fans back
40:39
and fans hate him. Haha, yeah.
40:40
Do fans hate Ollie? I want to do a poll on that.
40:43
I want to do a poll on that because I'm curious.
40:46
Let's see, this has to happen at season's end.
40:51
Do you think Carpenter is hitting coach?
40:54
I have no idea if Matt Carpenter wants to be hitting coach.
40:56
I have no freaking clue. You get the $5 beers at Busch
41:01
Stadium when you go. I'll tell you what, Sunday I'm
41:05
going. Sunday I'm going to be drinking.
41:07
I think my buddy's coming with me from Peoria.
41:09
We're going to hang out with my other buddy who's the Guardian's
41:12
assistant hitting coach. Actually, I shouldn't say that.
41:14
I shouldn't say that. He's drinking.
41:15
I don't know. He'll drink water.
41:17
OK. We're going to be hanging out
41:18
after the game. Rich Grisham.
41:21
What about the Cardinals farm system?
41:23
When's the last time the Cardinals developed a legit
41:25
starting pitcher? Great question.
41:26
What about Andre Belante? Andre Palante.
41:29
Hopefully, Tink Hence and Quinn Matthews are the answer to that.
41:33
When's the last time the Cardinals developed a legit
41:35
starting pitcher? What's the right answer there?
41:38
Let's just throw out names. Waka, Carlos Martinez, Lance
41:43
Lynn a long time ago. Are those the last legit
41:48
starting pitchers that ended up being Cardinals?
41:51
Not Sandy Alcantra and Zach Allen, right?
41:54
Is that fair? So was the last legit one Carlos
41:57
Martinez? Is that probably true?
42:01
Who am I missing? I don't have the greatest memory
42:05
Waka I think Mitchell Baquette. So Waka started in 2013, Lynn
42:13
came up in 2011, Carlos Martinez was a reliever in 2013.
42:18
Didn't Carlos Martinez have better starting seasons later
42:22
than Waka? I know he made an All Star game
42:24
or two. So whoever the answer is, it's
42:27
either Waka or Carlos Martinez. In terms of guys that stuck with
42:33
the Cardinals, I think that's fair.
42:36
Look it up, let me know. I could look all these things
42:38
up, but you guys don't look. I just, I just kind of go off
42:40
the cuff here. I'm not looking these things all
42:42
up as I go. I don't know everything.
42:45
I'm not the most plugged in. I like to have fun with you guys
42:48
and talk baseball and oh, Joe Kelly as a starter, though.
42:55
Shelby Miller? No, Shelby Miller was before.
42:58
It's got to be Martinez, Carlos Martinez or Michael Walker.
43:02
But we hope the answer is Andre Palante or Tink Hens or Quinn
43:08
Matthews moving forward, whoever the answer whichever Mitchell
43:13
Baquet correct too long either way.
43:15
Ha ha, well said guys. I think we're going to we're
43:18
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We'll go past 50 minutes. How about that?
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We'll go at least two more minutes.
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Sandwich man. Weren't the Cardinals pushing
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for Palante to be a reliever? And Palante had to speak up for
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himself and prove that he's a better starter.
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Kind of embarrassing the Cardinals couldn't see that.
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Yeah, it's kind of a lot of. There's a lot of things like
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that. The Cardinals not being great.
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How about Zach Thompson? Whatever happened to him?
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Right. Reliever, starter.
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Reliever, starter. Just up, down.
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Blah, blah, blah. Jaime Garcia.
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Yeah, that was a little earlier. Jaime Garcia is one of those
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guys where until you look him up, you don't realize how good
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he was until you go back and look at his numbers.
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Also, how much money he made. A lot.
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I can't remember what it was. It was more than I thought.
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Here we go. Ghostface Gaming.
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First base Burley. Second base.
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Donovan Shortstop win third base.
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Arenado Contreras catching Newt Siani.
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Walker Gorman bench. Scott Baker.
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This is a Jaycee Pies rotation. Gray Scherzer.
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Scherzer has to end up as a cardinal at the end of his
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career. It's just the way it should be.
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Although, do you want that? Now?
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He's older, but for business, it's good for business content.
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Max Scherzer needs to be a cardinal for at least one year.
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I'm sorry. He just does.
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OK. Oh, Flaherty.
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There you go. Let's see.
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Joe Madden is still my dream manager.
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Jack Flaherty. I think that's fair.
45:54
Kim Valker. Jack Flaherty For a while.
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Yeah, I think. Look, Jack Flaherty didn't
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finish 3rd in the Cy Young whatever year that was, 2019
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Jack Flaherty was definitely a front end starter and and
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certainly is now. So I think that's fair.
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I think that's fair for sure. How about this Ghostface Gaming
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Max Serger signs one year deal and retires a Cardinal.
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I love that. I love that they have enough old
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guys between Michaelis, Matz, Gray, whatever happens with
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Gibson, Lynn. Is Lynn going to retire on the
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injured list? Was that his last time ever
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pitching? I don't know.
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So it is what it is. It is what it is, folks.
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That's what people say when they have nothing else to say.
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And I'm pretty much at that point.
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Sandwich, man. Why is Michaelis still in
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rotation? Payroll politics, I guess.
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Yeah, And Michaelis should not be gifted a spot for 2025.
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I think we can all agree on that.
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Ghostface Gaming. I take Skip Schumacher as
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manager if he's available. Move on from out.
46:54
Yes, I would, too. Again, I don't, I don't think
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Ollie's the biggest problem, but if you told me we're bringing
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Skip back over Ollie, I would sign off on that for sure.
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All right, let's shut her down. We're over 50 minutes.
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Thank you so much, everybody, for jumping on and commenting
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and subscribing and liking and all that.
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And oh, look, I did that by accident.
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Need to have one about who we trade.
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Oh, yeah, OK, we'll do that. Yeah.
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We'll do all these things. We'll do a bunch in the
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offseason. Man, the off season is going to
47:26
be more interesting than the season.
47:28
Let's be real. I may, I may turn this channel,
47:30
by the way, into a Cleveland Guardians fan account for
47:34
October because I'm a Guardians fan now and I want them to run
47:37
deep. So I'm I think I'm going to be
47:40
following the Guardians, hopefully watching all the
47:42
games. So maybe I turn this for one
47:44
month if it's that long. We want the Guardians to run
47:47
deep. I may turn this into a Cleveland
47:48
Guardians fan account. OK, let's see, I'll read a
47:52
couple more. Daniel Warden.
47:54
I don't know why, but I want Scherzer to be a color
47:56
commentator on Bally's after he retires.
47:58
That'd be fun. That'd be fun.
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John Hartfield. MO was pretty good for 10 years,
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inherited a lot of good pieces. Tony, Albert, Yachty, Adam.
48:06
He's not replaced them. Talent evaluation is poor and he
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fired good manager for pettiness.
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He's run his course, I agree with that.
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Time for MO to move on big picture.
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I care, Charlie, I like that you aren't a cards Homer and
48:20
therefore are usually fair and objective.
48:21
I try to be. I try to be folks.
48:24
I try to be fair. Also go to try a bank.
48:27
But also everybody settle down. If you like news and politics.
48:30
that Channel is growing, baby. I'm going to do a live stream
48:33
with Eric Messersmith at 2:00 Central time today.
48:38
I just noticed also my battery's about to run out because I
48:40
didn't plug in my charger. So I really got to get going
48:43
here. One more J Renegade Rides.
48:48
What if MO has meticulously planned this out perfectly?
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Next year's final year? The Cards go deep.
48:52
That'd be fun. That'd be great.
48:53
That'd be a great way to end the John Mosaic tenure, which has
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been more good than bad, but not great lately.
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OK, here we go. I keep going.
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Ghostface Gaming. Go, Cardinals.
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Let's get back to postseason. Next season.
49:08
Let's go. Yes.
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And here we go. J Renegade rides.
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That's the copium, I tell myself.
49:15
You got to cope. Sometimes you got to take
49:17
copium. All right, thank you.
49:18
I'm officially done now. 53 minutes comment like subscribe,
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