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The Late Debate | 4 June · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: General, Welcome to the lad Base. Good evening and welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the program.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Caleb Bond with Liz Stora and Joe Hildebrand. Well,
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: would you believe it, Malcolm Turnbull, the Miserable Ghost, has
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  Speaker 2: come out with some advice on how to deal.
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  Speaker 1: With Donald Trump. God help us all.
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  Speaker 2: I think if there's one thing we know, it's if
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  Speaker 2: Malcolm Malcolm Turnbull tells you to do something, you should
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: probably do the opposite. In the papers, we'll talk about
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: a gangland figure in Melbourne who's had his deportation overturned
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  Speaker 2: thanks to Direction.
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  Speaker 1: Ninety nine not another one. And then later in.
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  Speaker 2: The program there's a bar in the US that has
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  Speaker 2: come up with a Pride month for the rest of us.
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  Speaker 2: But first we've got to talk about the skills shortage
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  Speaker 2: in this country. Now you might be sitting there thinking
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  Speaker 2: we've got a problem with tradees, we've got a problem
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  Speaker 2: with teachers, we've got a problem with police officers. We
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  Speaker 2: desperately need more of them. Well, I am here to
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  Speaker 2: tell you that you are wrong. In fact, what we
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  Speaker 2: need is more yoga instructors and martial artists.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm not kidding.
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  Speaker 2: Jobs and skills Australia has put out today. It's list
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  Speaker 2: of the jobs that we need to fill, and of
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  Speaker 2: course that means the margrants we need to bring to
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  Speaker 2: this country in order to fill them. And of course
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  Speaker 2: the federal government and many others have been going on
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  Speaker 2: about the fact that we don't have enough houses. We
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  Speaker 2: have all these margrants coming in, but we don't have
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  Speaker 2: the houses for them to live in. We don't have
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  Speaker 2: rental properties, we don't have new properties, so you'd think, well,
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  Speaker 2: we could do with some extra tradees. Now this list
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  Speaker 2: does say that Sparky's, chippies and civil engineers are needed.
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  Speaker 2: But plumbers, no bricklayers, no cabinet makers, no painters, roof tilers, stonemasons,
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  Speaker 2: they don't make the cut.
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  Speaker 1: But the list of people who are recommended.
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  Speaker 2: To be brought into this country yoga instructors and martial
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  Speaker 2: artists like a joke, but apparently it is not.
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  Speaker 1: There are two lists.
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  Speaker 2: One list says this is what we strongly recommend, what
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  Speaker 2: we strongly believe is what is needed. That's what the
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  Speaker 2: yoga instructors and martial artists have made it onto. And
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  Speaker 2: then there's another list that says, maybe we need to
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  Speaker 2: do some more consultation. That's the one that all the
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  Speaker 2: tradees have somehow ended up on it.
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  Speaker 1: You'd think it was a pretty open cutcase.
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  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what the head of Research and Build Skills,
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  Speaker 2: Robert Sabayra said today. He said, just the world really
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  Speaker 2: need more yoga instructors at this point in time. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not diminishing the importance of that as an occupation or
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  Speaker 2: the validity of it, but from the perspective of our
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  Speaker 2: economic priorities in this country, our social and economic priorities, it.
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  Speaker 1: Would seem to us that we should really.
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  Speaker 2: Be prioritizing basically any skilled trade.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: The only reason I can think of that we would
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  Speaker 2: need more yoga instructors in this country is that it
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  Speaker 2: might be quite popular in the inner city. And of
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  Speaker 2: course the inner city is under it hack from the Greens,
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  Speaker 2: and Labor is desperate to wrestle as many seats back
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  Speaker 2: from the Greens as possible.
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  Speaker 1: So, Joe, they've come up with the perfect policy.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to go to the next federal election saying
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  Speaker 2: we've solved all your problems. We got you the yoga
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  Speaker 2: instructors you wanted.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. Really, just to address this issue, I've actually come
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  Speaker 3: to the show dressed as an elite. You know what,
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  Speaker 3: I'm wearing a suit, Joe defendant.
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  Speaker 2: You that you are in a suit and tie, and
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  Speaker 2: in all my establishments, in all my years, you were
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  Speaker 2: that you were the first bloke who gave me a
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  Speaker 2: paid job.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, and I don't think it all that
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  Speaker 1: time I've seen you in.
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  Speaker 4: A suit, I've got me questioning everything I've ever thought
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  Speaker 4: to be, Like, my whole world is exploding.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, Vogue feelings, They're perfectly natural for this. What have
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  Speaker 3: I been saying the whole time, every every other night.
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  Speaker 3: This is why cutting migration doesn't actually create more housing.
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  Speaker 3: We need to bring in the migrants to build the
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  Speaker 3: houses and.
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  Speaker 1: Jobs and skills. Australia seem to think, so.
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  Speaker 3: Joe bringing the migrants in, bringing migrants who can build
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  Speaker 3: the houses, not the migrants who can do it down
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  Speaker 3: the dog.
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  Speaker 5: Bringing in the one.
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  Speaker 4: So build skills Australia commissioned by this labor government, by
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  Speaker 4: the way, that's why build skills exist. Labor government was like,
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  Speaker 4: we need someone to address the workforce side of this
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  Speaker 4: housing crisis, so we commissioned build skills. Well, build skilleds
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  Speaker 4: told the government in March of this year. We need
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  Speaker 4: ninety thousand extra construction workers in order to reach your
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  Speaker 4: pie in the sky goals of one point two million
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  Speaker 4: new houses in five years. To be clear, that means
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  Speaker 4: from July this year. This government has committed to building
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  Speaker 4: two twenty thousand new homes every month, sixty thousand every quarter.
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  Speaker 4: And they think they're going to pull this off while
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  Speaker 4: not even allowing said construction workers.
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  Speaker 5: We need onto the yes.
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  Speaker 4: Please these skilled immigrants, we need you desperately.
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  Speaker 3: List this I know, and I welcome youth. You cannot
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  Speaker 3: laugh or explain the way exactly what I've been saying.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that yoga should come. This is the
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  Speaker 3: whole point levels If you just simply cut migrace, well
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  Speaker 3: obviously the list is moronic and it needs a eguy
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  Speaker 3: that you're actually prioritizing the trades. And again I agree exactly.
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  Speaker 3: We build skills head of research of rob Sobria that
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  Speaker 3: the idea that you just cut migration and suddenly more
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  Speaker 3: houses appear is completely and utterly fantastical. We don't have
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  Speaker 3: enough people to build the houses the.
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  Speaker 4: Right immigrants, which obviously they're not. So you can cut
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  Speaker 4: numbers and just make sure that those that you are
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  Speaker 4: letting into the country fit the bill to help us
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  Speaker 4: out where we're in dire need.
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  Speaker 1: But let's have a.
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  Speaker 4: Look at how we ended up in this pickle because
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  Speaker 4: it follows a stooche between the government and the building
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  Speaker 4: sector in December of last.
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  Speaker 5: Year, when traders were left.
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  Speaker 4: Off the streamlined highly skilled professional visa category amid union
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  Speaker 4: calls to ensure Australian jobs were prioritized these ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 5: Is one of many reasons why you.
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  Speaker 4: Don't vote for labor because you end up with the
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  Speaker 4: unions running the country.
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  Speaker 3: Until tonight, we're on their side.
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  Speaker 4: They govern while keeping their union mates happy. That's why
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  Speaker 4: trade's were left off the list.
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  Speaker 3: This is why I'm saying we need to bring more
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  Speaker 3: margrats to address the housing.
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  Speaker 1: A.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome you, Joe, I, welcome o you Australian citizens from across.
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  Speaker 1: It's not about the numbers.
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  Speaker 2: It is about having the right migrants come into the country.
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  Speaker 2: And the list that we are looking at now is
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  Speaker 2: saying the people we absolutely need are the Yogis. The
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  Speaker 2: list should say there has nothing to do with numbers.
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  Speaker 1: We want.
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  Speaker 3: Ridiculous that the yogis appear on this list, and you
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  Speaker 3: know plumbers and tilers don't. But again, the sheer numbers
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  Speaker 3: of yoga instructors and martial arts instructors are not going
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  Speaker 3: to be anything like the numbers of for example, electricians, carpenter's,
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  Speaker 3: civil engineers.
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  Speaker 5: We can only hope.
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  Speaker 3: This has been put on the front page of the
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  Speaker 3: nine newspapers. So this this program is too woke even
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  Speaker 3: for the former Fair Facts newspapers. That's the government will
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  Speaker 3: pay attention to it. It will fix it already. Clara
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  Speaker 3: O'Neil has said as soon as she came to office
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  Speaker 3: that she was working on streamlining the skilled visa program.
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  Speaker 3: So we were just getting the right one and clearly someone's
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  Speaker 3: gone through here and hang on a minute, what's going
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  Speaker 3: on here? I remember doing a story which found that
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  Speaker 3: I believe it was it was massuses or some massage
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  Speaker 3: therapists or messuses were on the targeted migration list to
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  Speaker 3: bring into Australia. And of course they weren't just working
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  Speaker 3: in the therapeutic massage.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, they weren't the sort of
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  Speaker 2: This is one of the.
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  Speaker 3: Things that Malcolm was procured. Malcolm Turnbull attempted to crack
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  Speaker 3: down on which also had people jumping up and down,
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  Speaker 3: and that was when he wasn't hanging up on Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump story.
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  Speaker 1: Well, get to that a bit later in the show.
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  Speaker 2: But the idea that you can't have a migration program
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  Speaker 2: that has a lower number while also saying that we
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  Speaker 2: want certain.
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  Speaker 1: People, I just don't see what the issue is. You
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  Speaker 1: can say we want a lot of lower a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: People talk about lowering the number without making any mention
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  Speaker 3: of the actual mix of minus we need, as though
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  Speaker 3: if you just cut the number then suddenly there'd be
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  Speaker 3: more happy.
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  Speaker 4: Because dress this in his budget reply speech, he absolutely
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  Speaker 4: did address that, yes we will cut my migration, but
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  Speaker 4: we will do so in such a way that ensure
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  Speaker 4: the nation's needs are met.
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  Speaker 5: It's not rocket science.
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  Speaker 4: But let's go to the UK now, where overnight all
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  Speaker 4: my folks and dreams, my birthdays, my Christmases arrived at.
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  Speaker 6: Once when Nigel Farage while the mother country is burning
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  Speaker 6: on every single metric you name it, Britain is in trouble.
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  Speaker 4: The Conservative Party, the Tories are set for a landslide
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  Speaker 4: defeat at the upcoming election. And who wants to see
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  Speaker 4: a Corb and Nista government nobody.
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  Speaker 1: So who's come back.
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  Speaker 5: To enter the fray and save the day? This guy,
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  Speaker 5: this looks like on top of me.
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  Speaker 1: He's just follow me because we get a little cutters.
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  Speaker 4: Of the bills about me.
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  Speaker 1: And why is he doing this?
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  Speaker 4: Well, if you know anything about the current state of
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  Speaker 4: the UK, it's bleeding obvious. But here's the man himself
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  Speaker 4: announcing why So.
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  Speaker 7: I'm coming back as Leader of Reform UK. But not
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  Speaker 7: just for this election campaign. I'm coming back for the
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  Speaker 7: next five years. And there is one very simple reason
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  Speaker 7: for that. We all know already that the Conservative Party
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  Speaker 7: will be in opposition, but it won't be the opposition.
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  Speaker 7: They are incapable of it. They've spent most of the
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  Speaker 7: last five years fighting each other rather than standing up
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  Speaker 7: and fighting for the interests of this country.
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  Speaker 4: I think this man is going to rail it in
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  Speaker 4: at the polls.
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  Speaker 5: You know why.
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  Speaker 4: He is a patriot.
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  Speaker 8: Check Out this quote he said, I.
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  Speaker 4: Believe in Britain, these boring idiots that lead the Labor
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  Speaker 4: and Conservative parties.
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  Speaker 1: Are not worth the space.
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  Speaker 4: Let's make Britain and great again, echoing the great words
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  Speaker 4: of President Donald Trump. Here they are together, shortly after
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  Speaker 4: Brexit got across the line is celebrating this iconic photo.
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  Speaker 4: If we can get Trump back in the White House
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  Speaker 4: and get that man anywhere near Downing Street, there may
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  Speaker 4: be hope for the Western world. Yet, ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 4: we've got to make it happen.
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  Speaker 3: I know I'm looking I'm looking forward to it enormously,
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  Speaker 3: and he's going to be fun. And I believe, contrary
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  Speaker 3: to his comments just then, I believe the real reason
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  Speaker 3: he diveat is because the election campaign was so far
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  Speaker 3: the dullest, most boring electoral campaign we have ever seen. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I love it, I love it, but you know he's
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  Speaker 3: not going to be Prime minister, right, you know he's
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  Speaker 3: going to make a Labor party's back for five years.
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  Speaker 4: Him back in the House will make all the difference and.
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  Speaker 3: Worth having the right tear each other apart just so
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  Speaker 3: that you can have a bit of fun in an
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  Speaker 3: election campaign, even if it means Labor wins government.
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  Speaker 5: He is the man of the hour.
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  Speaker 4: Here he was at their own Tory party get together.
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  Speaker 5: It's explaining to you the why they've already lost.
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  Speaker 7: Your poll has just come out shows the election's over already,
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  Speaker 7: it's over, it's done. It's not my fault that the
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  Speaker 7: Tories have done it to themselves.
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  Speaker 4: He's seen his opportunity to make a comeback and the
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  Speaker 4: stage is set. Well.
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  Speaker 1: The point is it's going to be a labor government.
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  Speaker 1: Anyone knows.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone knows it's going to be a labor government. So
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: the argument around the Right tearing itself apart is somewhat.
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  Speaker 1: Moot at this point because it's not.
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  Speaker 2: As though Nigel Farage could come just sailing into the
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  Speaker 2: Tories and fix it all up in the five weeks
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  Speaker 2: before the next election.
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  Speaker 1: It's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: He sniffed the political wind, which is obviously that the
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  Speaker 2: Tories are going to get annihilated and there's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a significant portion of people who want something else
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  Speaker 2: to vote for and they don't really want to vote
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  Speaker 2: for labor, and so his Reform Party will be the
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: third party that comes in and says, look, if you
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: want to send a message to the Tories that they
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  Speaker 2: should get back to conservative basics and they call themselves
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  Speaker 2: the Conservative Party, then we are the people to do it.
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  Speaker 2: He's running in the seat of Clacton, which had previously
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  Speaker 2: had a member that was from the UKIP Party, which
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  Speaker 2: was the party that he from previously, so he knows
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  Speaker 2: that they have proven that they can win in this seat.
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  Speaker 2: It is the right time for someone like Farage to company.
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  Speaker 2: You can't barrage the Farage to come back into the
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  Speaker 2: fold and say, look, we've got to give the Tories
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  Speaker 2: a scare.
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  Speaker 3: The question is the maths though, right, So it's like
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  Speaker 3: one nation saying we're going to knock over Peter Dutton
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  Speaker 3: because he's not conservative enough, and we're going to resort
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  Speaker 3: this back to base and will be the new opposition
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  Speaker 3: because we'll be more than the Liberals are in opposition
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  Speaker 3: while Labor is in power. And then does one nation
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  Speaker 3: end up getting fifty one percent of the vote at
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  Speaker 3: a future election or in the UK's chance, the first case,
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  Speaker 3: the first past the post. That is the question. You
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  Speaker 3: Kip is very good at swinging people here and there.
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  Speaker 3: But the reason, for example, why Brexit got up is
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  Speaker 3: because a whole bunch of northern labor voters in northern
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  Speaker 3: England who felt really p quite frankly by you know,
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  Speaker 3: they've been put out of jobs by you know the.
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  Speaker 4: Are you saying he won't win the seats because his
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  Speaker 4: only point?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm saying that the question with him
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  Speaker 3: winning the seat, the question is whether Reform UK or
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: the Conservatives are better positioned to be able to form government.
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  Speaker 3: So if you actually think the reform you came he has.
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  Speaker 4: Said we will be in opposition, it will be you
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  Speaker 4: just heard.
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  Speaker 3: He's saying he wants to be the main opposition, which
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  Speaker 3: means that the next time. Unless he wants to be
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: in opposition forever, which few political parties do, he has
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: to think that reform either a reform is the biggest
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: opportunity to retake government from labor at the election. Wants
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: to scare them, scare the crap out. He wants to
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  Speaker 3: destroy the con Servative Party in the place.
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  Speaker 2: It's not about destroying the Conservative parties. Fixing the Conservative
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  Speaker 2: Party now.
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  Speaker 3: We make their votes until they learn they then become
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  Speaker 3: more like reform UKU. And then he says, thank you robots,
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  Speaker 3: heeded your lesson, and I'll go point.
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  Speaker 5: Need to have an effective opposition.
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  Speaker 4: He knows the Tories don't have it in them to
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  Speaker 4: give They didn't even have it in the to give
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  Speaker 4: who So he's.
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  Speaker 5: Like coming back to get it, going to stay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's two things you can do next.
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  Speaker 2: One is you either former coalition with the Conservatives if
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  Speaker 2: they come to the table in terms of what you
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: want them to do, or at the point you think
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  Speaker 2: the Conservatives have reformed themselves, you bow out.
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  Speaker 1: That's your two options. Now for.
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  Speaker 3: The last political party you're aware of in a liberal
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  Speaker 3: deboxcy that voluntarily just bowed out. But even the Democrats
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: had the decency to be wiped out by if no.
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  Speaker 2: One, if no one makes an attempt to try and
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  Speaker 2: correct the Tories, then the Tories will keep going the
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: way they have, which is leading them to annihilation at
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  Speaker 2: the next election in the UK. They need someone to
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: deliver some kind of reset. That's what Faraj wants to do,
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  Speaker 2: and God willing he will be able to do it.
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  Speaker 2: And speaking of conservative I think one of the most
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  Speaker 2: important issues that any conservative party in the world should
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: be worried about right now, and particularly in our country,
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  Speaker 2: is housing affordability, because, of course, if you want people
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  Speaker 2: to believe in what they have, you want them to
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  Speaker 2: have something to conserve. They actually have to own something,
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  Speaker 2: and generally that has been based on a good job,
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  Speaker 2: a home that you own to come home to, and
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  Speaker 2: a family living in that home. And we know statistically
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: now that the number of people having families is dropping.
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  Speaker 2: The fertility rate in Australia at the moment is one
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  Speaker 2: point six. The replacement rate we need to keep the
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  Speaker 2: population stable is to point one, that is kid per
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  Speaker 2: person right, So what we have as a situation with
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  Speaker 2: fewer people having fewer kids because fundamentally they don't own anything.
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  Speaker 2: A new research from Redbridge, which of course is run
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  Speaker 2: by Cos Samaras, who used to be a strategist for
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  Speaker 2: the Labor Party, has shown exactly this. It found that
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  Speaker 2: more than half of eighteen to thirty four year olds
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  Speaker 2: have delayed starting a family, primarily because of the cost
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  Speaker 2: of living.
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  Speaker 1: And Cos Samaras.
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  Speaker 2: Said to this that the people who participated in this
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: study were asked whether or not a baby bonus would
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  Speaker 2: be an encouragement for them to have a child, and
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  Speaker 2: they basically said no, a baby bonus.
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  Speaker 1: Would do very little.
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  Speaker 2: And to this Cos Samaras said, it's not just about
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  Speaker 2: the three thousand or four thousand you might get from government.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: It's the inability to access affordable rental properties. It's the
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: inability to access a home that is suitable for raising
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: your family. It's the unstable work out there. People don't
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: feel like because of the economic conditions, they are in
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: a place in their lives where they can go and
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: have children. They want a home that they can own,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: they want a stable job, and of course they want
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: that home to not cost them half of their life savings.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Any conservative government worth at salt should be working over
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: time on this because without people being able.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: To own a home and have a family and.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: A patch of dirt for them to look after that,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: that's their connection to the community, that's their connection to
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: the world. And without that, you set up this situation
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: where people go, well, the economic conditions I live in
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: don't suit me, so why would I do anything to
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: conserve and better the world that I live in. John
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Howard once said, and I'm paraphrasing him here, that economic
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: policy should help people and not the other way around.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: The people are not the means to the economic policy.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: The economic policy is the means to the people. That
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: is not the situation we're in now, and we're.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Still to see the consequences.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: But the government has known this for ages.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Last time our fertility rate was this low one point
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: seven it was in two thousand and that was the
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: lowest it had ever been in recorded history. In Australia
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: the year after two thousand and one they came out
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: with the baby bonus because then we had a government who.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: Was like, well, we've got to do something.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Okay, people have kids, come on, get us out of here.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: Let's let's have babies.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: We can do this for money.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: And it worked.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: But we've seen this decline for decades now, and successive.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Governments do very little.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: There's no tax breaks, there's no kind of like, here
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: is how we are making it affordable for you to
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: have kids, or at least more than one point seven kids.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: So right now the baby bonus won't cut it. We
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: can't bring that back.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: It worked for its day, for Grand power.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: These governments idea of all let's support families is universal daycare.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Oh thank you so much that you're going to take
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: my three year old for free. I want to stay
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: home and raise my own kids, Thanks very much.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: And this government's idea of we're supporting families.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Is give us your children.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: We all know the hand that rocks the cradle rules
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: the world.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Give us your children and women half of the workforce.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Get back to your desks and bring us the tax dollar.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: That's all this government cares about.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: So what you just said.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Literally not really.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: The exact opposite is what we constantly see from this government,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: where people are the means to the end as opposed
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: to what are you doing to ensure that people feel
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: empowered to? Yeah, but we have millennials, even older people
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: being like, hang on.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: A minute, I've got student.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Debt, I can't afford a roof over my head, I
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: cannot afford kids. In many of the polls that are
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: run showing why people are saying I can't have kids,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: isn't I mean radical feminist and all that cancerous ideology
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: is playing its part, But by and large it's because
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: they feel like they can't afford them. It's not because
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: they don't want children, they just feel like.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: They can't afford it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: And this is a malady felt across the West. Check
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: out this map of fertility done by a statistica.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: This is something that we.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Are seeing across the Western world.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: People are already feeling the pinch.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: They're like, well, why can we we can't afford to
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: have kids we'd love to And what we're seeing take
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: place is, of course the natural outworking of this. If
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: certain countries are having that many more kids than us,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: what do you think is going to happen? And our
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: countries are already transforming right before our eyes.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Well, this is the great replacement?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Is that where we are not a job?
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: How else do you increase the population without importing people?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: If people you don't have children, or at least keep.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: The po hands up. If you've got three kids, you've
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: done on the panel, you've done, not three kids, hands up,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: just talking, hands up if you're doing well.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I had thought.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Actually, remember remember let's remember remember Makaylia Cash talked about
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: a curry for the country. They should start a campaign
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: shag for the country.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: But one ford and one for the country.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: You're a fair bit older than me.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I'm twenty four years old. I'm not economically in a
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: position apart from the fact that I don't have a
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: partner at them, but I'm not economically in a position
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: where I would feel right.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: So obviously, exactly as cost said, it's very smart. Housing
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: affordability is incredibly important, and we need to bring in
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: more people to build more houses. Another reason why we
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: are bringing in migrants is because we're not having enough kids.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: This is, as you say, this is a global problem. Basically,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: the richer you are the less likely. Well in the
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: more affluent a society you live in, the more likely
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: you are to have kids. Also, where you have you know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: where you have you know, super or pensions or people
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: looking after you in retirement. A lot of the reason
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: why people have a lot of kids in developing countries
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: is because they see it as an insurance policy for
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: when they get old, the kids will take care of them.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Another reason is a lack of birth control, all those
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: sorts of things. But again, big I'm a big fan
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: of people having kids. Not only are kids beautiful and
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: fun and they're awesome to hang out with, but they're
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: great economic drivers. They are fantastic because they you know,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: and you don't have to import a fifteen year old
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: migrant to work at mcgonials and get the nation going.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: So they're paying their taxes and looking after an aging generation. Again,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: it's like marriage. Marriage is a great economic unit and
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: it has been throughout history. So I'm all in favor
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: of that traditional stuff. I'm all in favor of people
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: getting married and having kids. And I've done my bit,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: thank you very much, Australia. But this is my medal.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: But this is where we've dudded ourselves because we've created
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: an economic situation.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: You're quite right, we need people to have kids.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: In order to keep the economy going, but we have
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: created an economic situation where people don't feel comfortable to
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: have the kids to keep the economy going. I mean,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I you know, as I said before, I'm a young fellow.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: But my parents when I was born and my younger
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: brother and my father went to work full time, and
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: mum worked part time on Thursday nights and on Saturdays.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: She was until we were old enough to sort offend
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: for ourselves. She spent most of her time at home.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: That was the decision my parents made about how they
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: wanted to parent, and they could afford to do it,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: and my father did mega shed load of money and
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: or died my mother, but they were able to do it,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: whereas now you would be seriously pushing uphill to be
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: able to have unless you're on very good money. One
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: parent at home and one parent at work.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Both parents have.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: To go to work, and it's another thing that discourages
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: people from having kids. So we've created an economy that's
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: great for the government. It means they pull in tex
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: and whatever, but they've jypped themselves because they've stopped the
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: next generation that keeps the Yeah, the.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Higher wages, I'm all in favor of that as well.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: And yes, it is a difficult problem. We were lucky enough,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: like we're you know, we're not coup to but struggle.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: But we're going backwards in the current economic climate. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: you know, I worry about the mortgage like everyone else,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: and I'm in one of the really privileged, fortunate positions,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: but it comes for us all. People aren't going to
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: feel more confident until interest rates start coming back down. Yes,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: we do need higher wages. I could not agree more
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: in a lower cost of it, there's and a lower
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: cost of living and greater housing affordability. One of the
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: problems is that houses a couple of decades ago were
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: about three times I think in the eighties, Yeah, exactly
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: three times the annual average wage. They're now something like
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: ten times, probably more now. That was a few years old.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: So you've got to you know, yes, you have to
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: bring housing prices down. You have to make the cost
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: of living more affordable. That applies to absolutely everything that
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: applies to living as much as it does to having kids.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: And of course people aren't going to do the most
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: important thing in their life and the biggest sort of
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: investment in their life, their whole heart and soul, which
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: is to have kids unless they feel pretty secure. The
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: other thing you can do, of course, at the other
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: end is make people feel more secure in other countries,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: and that would make them less likely to have more
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: kids and create the problems there. But that's another story altogether.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: There you go, all the world's problem solved.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about the miserable ghost because he has re emerged.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: His name is Malcolm Turnbill, and he is scared. He
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: is so scared that Donald Trump will successfully make a comeback.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: How we know that, Well.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: He's written a piece today saying, should this happen, leaders
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: of the world, I encourage you to follow in my
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: hallowed footsteps and make sure that you take this man
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: to task. Good.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: But you stand up.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: To him because there was this one time that I
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: stood up to him, and I want everyone to know
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: about it because it was the highlight of my career.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Here he is telling us all about it in the
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: doco called Nemesis.
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: President's not going to honor the refugee deal. Prime Minister
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: shouldn't refer to it, so I you know, raised that
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: matter with the President and he was very angry and
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: we had quite a row about it. It turned out
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: to be a good call, essentially that the summary was
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: it started off no way, Jose and ended up yes,
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: but I hate you.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: I'm big tour from a ship sweet who's best remembered
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: for a legacy of snowy hydro too. And then there's
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Trump who just you know, unprecedented peace. There was no
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Russia Ukraine war, there was peace in the Middle East.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: America hadn't had it so good economically since the sixties
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: until Trump rocked up rather a better legacy.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: I think I just love it when.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: These tiny, tiny men take it upon themselves to channel
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: their sheer lack of significance in the form of hatred
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: to a man ten million times their consequence and what
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: he calls if.
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: We can get that quote back up, a powerful narcissistic
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: self belief has given him Trump the strength to defy
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: not just his many enemies, but even reality itself.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: A powerful narcissistic self belief, Well, it takes one to
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: know one, Malcolm Turnbull, and what I loved and I
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: think we all loved, even if you hated Trump, was
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: when he was in office, his big dog energy. Literally
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: it transferred to world leaders. Does anyone here actually think
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: that Morrison, had Trump not been leader of the free
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: world at the time, did it of his own accord
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: pick up.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: The phone to China and be like.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: We want an explanation regarding the COVID origins.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: I don't think so.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I actually know how that happened in the halls of power.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: It really did.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Other leaders started to take on more of a big
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: dog energy and who once limp wristed loser leaders, they're
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: not leaders at all.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: But I just I can't get over Turnbull portraying himself
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: as like the master manipulator I beat Donald.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Trump, give me arrest.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, he refers to Trump as a volatile, narcissistic
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: gas lighter. He says that there's never been such an
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: effective and relentless gas lighter. If you look at Malcolm
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Turnbull's president presidency, geez.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I don't want to upgrade him to that.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: The reason that came to my head is, of course,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: that he used to run the Australian Republican movement, primarily
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: because I think he wanted to be president.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Himself one day.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: But his Prime ministership which was based on the fact
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: that Tony Abbott had lost thirty news polls in a row,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: and then he went on to do exactly the same thing.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: It wasn't the most glorious prime ministership that Australia had
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: ever seen. But now he swan's around as though he
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: was the answer to all the world's problems. So he
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: goes and pins this piece in Foreign Affairs magazine and
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: she's the world.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I have news for you. I will tell you how
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to deal with Donald Trump.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: You don't tell your advice. And I admit that that
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Malcolm Turmber did not have many wins during his prime ministership,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: and I think this was one of them. I mean,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you prefer the alternative that America
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: didn't take the refugees that we were trying to or
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: this arm steaings. I should say that we were trying
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: to get rid of in this convoluted swapping system where
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: everyone actually ended up in a country, but it looked
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: like no one was getting into that particular country.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: There was only about not downing the win.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: We're more down in him crowing about it.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: Later.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: I've still got as a former editor once told me self,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: praise is no recommendation. And again I think even just
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: the fact that one thing that's a little bit illuminating
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: is the fact that he's writing this in an essay
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: in the journal Foreign Affairs, which is obviously the bible
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: of the kind of elite global diplomatic class. And I say,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: this is someone who has friends and family who work there.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: But that is part of the reason why Donald Trump
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: came to power. And so again this kind of sneering
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: down from Ivory Towers about this boorish narcissistic I mean,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: you know anyone in politics who isn't a narcissist, if
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: anyone can find one, please, especially Matham. And again, they
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: just don't seem to get that. Sneering at him, looking
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: down on him, and especially persecuting him and pursuing him
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: through the justicism. It just makes him stronger because people think, well,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: you're all a bunch of wankers. At least this guy
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: I can understand. At least this guy talks in terms
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I can understand. And at least this guy says, you know,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give you your jobs back now, whether he's
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: got a plan to do that or not. As another matter.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: But you know, again, he's speaking directly to people in
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: a language that they can understand. And all the people
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: that are speaking against Donald Trump are actually are actually
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: speaking in a more elitist frame which he doesn't fit into,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: and that's why they almost want to spit him out.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Is like a foreign infection in a body that the
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: body's trying to reject and until they realize until again,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: there used to be a consensus between the center right
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: and the Senate left on big things like foreign policies, say,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: and somehow we just forgot or stopped communicating that to people,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: and people suddenly started to think, this is the sort
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: of world I don't understand. There are all these people
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: up there doing things, speaking in bureaucraate ease, and I'm
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: losing my job or I'm scared that I can't get
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: a house or whatever it might be, and I cannot
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: understand a word or these suits say. And I appreciate
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: the irony that I'm saying this in wearing a suit.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: For the first time in the very long time.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Look, you know, I never thought i'd say this, but
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I really wish Malcolm turnbull post prime ministership had been
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: more like Julia Gillard again words that I never but
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: she is dead set the best X Prime minister we've
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: had in a long time, because for the most part
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: she's just kept her mouth shut and got on with
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: her life. If only Turnbull and Rudd had done the same. Now,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: there was a small win for The Herald Sun today.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: They had been pursued by an activist by the name
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: of Claire Southey. She's from Rainbow Rights Watch and she'd
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: gone after the Herald Son for an article a couple
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: of years ago that they wrote about prisoners in a
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: women's prison. Of course, female prisoners complaining that a transgender
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: prisoner had been banged up with them, and this was
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: someone who'd been convicted of violent offenses, including sex offenses
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: overseas well. This activist somehow believed that these female prisoners
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: raising an issue with the biological man who had committed
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: sex offenses being put in a female prison was somehow transphobic.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Thankfully that decision was thrown out this week, but I
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: was really heartened to read the words of Mel Jeffries
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: in the article about this in The Herald Sun today. Now,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Mel Jeffries is a biological woman who at one point
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: decided she wanted to be a man. She had her
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: breasts taken off in twenty seventeen, but by twenty twenty
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: one she decided that she wanted to be a woman again,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: that she did not want to be a man. She
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: has done what is called detransitioning, and we're hearing more
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: about this now. People who decided at one point that
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: they were transgender and were given irrevocable medical procedures to
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: try to change their gender, later regretting it and going
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: back to their biological sex. And she sold the Herald
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Son today. Sorry, when I see efforts to disenfranchise women
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: who have suffered deeply at the hands of abusive men,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: who speak up and try to raise alarm about injustice,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: it hardens my resolve to oppose these ideas and the
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: people who push them. All I can say is here
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: here and more strength to her arm. And how ridiculous
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: this clear Southy woman. It's not the first time she's
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: done it is routinely going after meeting outlets for reporting
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: factually on matters about transgender issues. She then tries to
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: tie them up with you know, the press council and
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: in the courts and all sorts of staff. Meanwhile, you've
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: got people who've actually been through the whole process, like
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Mel Jeffrey, saying no, you're a menace.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: This needs to be talked about.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: It's it beggars belief that it even needs to be
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: talked about when you're weighing up the safety of women
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: compared to the rights of trans women.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: Am I getting this right?
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: How is this even a conversation that women have to
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: in the twenty first century fight for their own bathroom spaces,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: their own prisons. I mean, this guy had sex offenders, like,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: that's what he was in jail for, and yet he
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: was put in there with vulnerable women. How is this
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: even something that Mel Jeffries has to go to the
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: mattresses on.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: It's just it shouldn't even have to happen. Thank god she's.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Taking up the cause because her voice, obviously having spent
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: ten years living as a mayor, is more powerful than most.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: She's like, Hey, you don't come at me calling me
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: her begot I've lived both lives and I'm telling you
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: right now, I'm sick to death of this rubbish.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Mel Jeffers is certainly in an unusually well informed position
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: to know, but the problem is and we see this
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: with the gay community more generally as well, that you've
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: got a very sensible, sort of normal part of the
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: community who just want to get on with their lives.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: And they make some really good points about you know,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: areas where they're still discriminated against and things like you know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: conversion therapy and that sort of stuff which my wife
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: does work on for Quality Australia. And they're all pretty sensible,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: they're all they make really reasonable points. But then you
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: have these super extreme, crazy queer Marxists who hijacked the debate.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: They're the sort of people who've got the cops banned
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: from the Marti Gras parade. They come after this tip
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: just for future campaigns, maybe don't make the child sex
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: offender your poster girl. That's probably just a tip from
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: an old hand.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be a great idea.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: After the break, we'll get into the papers, including a
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Melbourne gangland figure Will Feed, who is now allowed to
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: stay in the country so people can fear him more thanks.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: To Direction ninety nine. All that more coming up.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Let's get into the papers, starting with the Australian. Joe
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: tell us about your mate Anthony el I.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Certainly will Caleb with pleasure, thank you very much. Yes,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: front page of the Eyes today, and it's something I've
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: been banging on about four weeks and weeks and weeks.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: They're in the top right hand corner. PM locked out
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: by war protests Anthony Albanezi has been locked out of
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: his Sydney electorate office this year because of pro Palestinian protests.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Mid official security warnings that Islamist extremists are attending anti
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Israel demonstrations on university campuses and outside parliamentarian's offices, and
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: this I'm hoping is finally going to be the kind
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: of turning point. But I've been telling people I can
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: promise you personally, privately, public or whatever. The PM hates
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: these guys. He's sick of these stripes. They've been keeping
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: him out of his office. They've been making his life
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: a misery.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: And he hates them because they're stupid enough not to
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: realize he's on their side the quiet.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they're too stupid to realize a lot
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: of things, but they absolutely making his life a misery
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: and certainly he is, if anything more inclined to be
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: more pro Israel as a result of their crazy one
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: eight actions, I think seeing because of the attacks on
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: other Electric offices. They've been vandalized, hit with graffiti. I
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: think Chris Bowens was one from memory. So it's been
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: absolutely appalling what has been done. And these protesters are
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: really showing their colors, which they are violent extremists, thugs.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: So for all this time, so since January that the
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: office has been shot, presumably they're still paying the rent
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: on the office right because they can't get rid of
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: the office. These people are sitting out the front, not
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: only just being dickheads and making a nuisance of themselves.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: And I live in the Inner West, so I've seen
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: them on the occasion that I've driven past the office.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: But they are keeping the Prime Minister out of his office,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: a place of employment, which is not which is not
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: just any form of protest.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: It's like the people who glue themselves to the road.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: They are impeding everyone else's ability to go about their
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: life freely. So at what point do we get out
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: the water cannons and the rubber bullets and get these
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: people the hell off his doorstep.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: It's o point because if you're alb and easy, that's
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: not how you treat your friends. The sun Now visa
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: bungle outrage.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Gosh, it feels like Groundhog Day.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Gangland figure joled for serious crimes cleared to stay in
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Australia under Labour's shambolic directive. Mock Bell's mates free pass
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: a feared Melbourne gangland figure with strong ties to drug kingpin,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: turning Mockbell as that is visa cancelation overturned under controversial
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: legal guidance.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: Lay is scrambling to fix.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Scramble harder, Labor scramble harder.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: So it was last week.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: That Gels got up and said, oh, no, okay, So
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: we're going to have the new members.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Of a review thing and what they're going.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: To do is use common sense.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: I know, I said the whole thing about connections to Australia,
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: which by the.
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: Way, is why this thug gets to stay. Its good
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: connections to Australia get out.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: And yet how long is this going to take? Is
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: this another six month review? Is it a three month review?
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Why can't you do something like this in.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: A week, Joe, We all know Direction ninety.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Nine is an abject failure. Why can't you just repeal it?
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: They're punch drunk. I don't know what they're doing. They
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: don't know what the next thing is coming from. I've
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I've seen ministers and departments in these ups of scanner
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: before they are gone. They've gone for all money they're
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: really will say, I think you're getting the wrong into
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: the stick on this, Liz, because this guy is actually
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: an incredibly caring person. In paragraph, it says Kevin Farrugia
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: fifty one cradled a severely injured mock bell in his
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: arms after he was stabbed in a prison ambush. Wow,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: you don't get that.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: He's a lovely Who among us have.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Had a friend like that who would cradle us in
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: their arms after we were stabbed in a prison ambush?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: And for that alone, he deserves to stay in the country.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Send the bastard back to mold.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: We have another look at the Herald Sun front page
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: if we can pull it up here, because this is
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: another story. I don't know if it's related. Since when
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: did Vin Diesel get a pass to come to the country.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Look, you know, I reckon this. This fella.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Andrew Giles should just get on the phone and send
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: one of those non existent drones down.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: To that seems like job.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: That's the easy solution. Isn't on to the advertiser tomorrow.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: And and I note also on the front of the
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: TiSER and the splashes I killed Charlie, which is of
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: course that horrific story from last year at Schoolies where
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: the police Commissioner, Grant Stephens's son was killed and the
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: guy who killed him has admitted in court today that
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: he did so guilty. Your honor and to Grant and
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: the rest of the Stephens family is always my thoughts
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: are with you. But we'll go to the other story
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: on the front of the TiSER. Stamp duty acts to
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: help first buyers. Stamp duty will be abolished for all
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: first home buyers who build or buy new homes and
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: first home owner Grant, What did I say that eligibility
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: will be expanded here here common sense policy? Why is
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: this not just across the board everywhere? Because it is
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: the biggest impediment to get apart from the fact that
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: houses are so expensive to begin with, it's the biggest
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: impediment to getting into the housing market as a first
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: home bar because you've saved up your hundreds of thousands
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: of dollars that you need for your deposit. That's the deposit,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: and then you need all this other money which you
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: can't borrow to pay for the stamp duty.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: You think you have a deposit and then you look
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: at the other.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: List of fees and whatever.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: I don't think stamp duty should exist.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: It's like the government being like, oh, you bought something, well,
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: we're just going to tax you for absolutely no reason,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Like it does not make any sense to me whatsoever, any.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: More than payroll tax. It's like, oh, thanks for employing people.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Wham oh we'd be stuffed without you.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: But hey, we're going to make life as hard as
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: possible because we're the government.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: That's what we do.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: We make life hard and we collect tax and that's
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: all we care about. So great move by malinowskis.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: I hope the premiers labor government. There's just another great
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: labor policy, so many of them. It's hard to keep up,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: isn't it. Man find with the mercury. And this is
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: an absolute cracker of a story reborn in the USA.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Eight Tasmanian devils are heading to America as ambassadors. Better
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: than a Tasmanian devil ambassador program. And and yes, the
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Americans have been warned that the Tasmanian Devils are hairy,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: bad tempered and have a nasty bite. They said, it's okay,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: We're used to that.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: It looks I'm sure they're excited for the as I
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: said before. You know, they make better ambassadors than Kevin Rad.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: But you know, it's not exactly like when Adelaide Zoo
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: got hold of the Pandas from China? Is it? You know?
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I know Tazzy Devils, they might be something special, but
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: it's like they're.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Nothing that great? Are they? Is this people in a
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: people in the US?
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Chinese bands more than homegrown good.
• 44:47
  Speaker 10: Old Gosh's a communist, huge and fair and they could
• 44:56
  Speaker 10: rip your face off.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Nothing and furry and can rip your face off.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I don't look their furry and they can rip your
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: face off. I don't think that Tazzy Devils are all
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: that cute old rubbish. If they could bring back if
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: they could bring back the Tazzy Tiger, bring back the
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Thila scene and send one of those to the US,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: then I think we're seriously onto something.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: But you know, as for some Tazzy Devils.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: You can't just say that pandas are better than devils.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: It's not a black and white issue.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Oh very funny they called the Tazzy Devils. That the
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: new AFL team are getting down in Tasmania are called
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: the Tazzy Devils.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Just send those ones over to the US. They wouldn't
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: know the difference.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: And maybe they'll learn about the great game of Bossie
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: rules while they're there.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Anyway, that's it for the papers. After the break.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: A bar in the US has come up with a
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: new version of Pride Month, but not gay Pride Month.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: We'll tell you about that soon.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Seinfeld once talked about a Festivus for the rest of us,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: and the bars come up with a similar notion for Pride.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Yes they have, and Ida bo Bar has gone viral
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: after announcing that instead of being Pride Month, they were
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: celebrating Junea's Heterosexual Awesomeness Month.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: This is the viral post.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: They're right.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: June will be OSS's inaugural Heterosexual Awesomeness Month. Come join
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: us all month to celebrate heterosexuals, for without them, none
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: of us would be here. Each Monday will be Hetero
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: Male Monday, and any heterosexual mail dressed like a heterosexual
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: mail will receive a free draft beer. Each Wednesday is
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Heterosexual Couple's Day, and each heterosexual couple will receive fifteen
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: percent off their bill.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: More events to be announced in the coming weeks. Follow
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: us on Instagram.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: Or Facebook to stay in four.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: On a minute, Absolute legends. Yes, everyone's full of home.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Couple of heteros to than what it holds like a heterosexual?
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Is this dressed like a heterosexual?
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Most definitely sure.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: As I've always said, real men were pink fantastic. I'm
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: happy to I'm happy to go with that. What happens
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: then if a gay guy addresses is a heterosexual just
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: marches up to the bar and here you gets.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: There going to be Are they going to be able to?
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: That's appropriate?
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: Takes me as the kind of bar that.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Will be a strikers, the kind of bar that does
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: not have gata.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: That that is appro creation, Joe, that is appropriate, all right.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I thought they already had bars for heterosexual men. They're
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: called titty bars. Anyway, Just on this notion.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: On this.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: It is true, and speak you know very well where
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: they are, Joe. While we're on this theme, the Babylon Bee.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Which is one of the great satirical cloud fits out
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: of the US, has come up with a new version
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: of Guess who.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Kids Who wants to play Guess Who.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: I don't like that game. It's not inclusive.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it only has two genders.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: Not anymore?
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, introducing all new Guess Who now with all four
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty seven genders?
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: Is your a person by gender?
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: Mom?
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: You cannot determine someone's gender based on their appearance.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: That's disrespectful and offensive. Is your person a Demi Boyne?
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Identifying someone solely based on their gender is reductive and offensive?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Goodness, gracious? May have you had any of those discussions
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: with your kids, Joe? Is that what it's like at home?
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: You get a link.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know what they are. I don't know who
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: anybody is anymore. I don't even know if they're wearing
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: pants right now. I don't even know who's got them.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Well, it's more about what he has arisen in the pants,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: I suppose.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't want to know what.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know that you.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Guess Who was one of my favorite games as a kid. Yes,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I'm dead sit worried that this is actually where it's going.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: Oh I have.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: I'm shocked they haven't already updated the game and been
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: like Guess Who for the twenty first century.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what, it's Pride Month. This would be
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: the time to release it anyway. If that's it from
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: us tonight, coming up next to the reader Panic and Show.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Goodnight,